View Full Version : Joey Dorsey Euroleague MVP countdown: 2012/2013
Nick Young
10-11-2012, 08:22 PM
This is the official Joe Deisel Euroleague MVP watch thread. Post his game stats in here as we count down his days til winning Euroleague MVP glory:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
http://www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Joey+Dorsey+Jarvis+Varnado+Duplicate+NCAA+E30RwivB c7ml.jpg
ZenMaster
10-11-2012, 08:31 PM
11 minutes played, 7 points, 4 rebounds, 2 turnovers and 3 fouls committed in a 85-81 win in their first game vs Caja Laboral.
Truly MVP worthy....
KG215
10-11-2012, 09:09 PM
No lie, Euroleague said Dorsey is every bit as good as prime Ben Wallace, if not better, in one of the threads he was going on and on about Barcelona's win over the Mavs. Just said Dorsey wasn't given a fair shake in the NBA.
Starting center for the Euroleague champions! :bowdown: :rockon:
Nick Young
10-11-2012, 09:15 PM
Starting center for the Euroleague champions! :bowdown: :rockon:
They will only go as far as Joe Diesel takes them
ZenMaster
10-11-2012, 09:19 PM
No lie, Euroleague said Dorsey is every bit as good as prime Ben Wallace, if not better, in one of the threads he was going on and on about Barcelona's win over the Mavs. Just said Dorsey wasn't given a fair shake in the NBA.
Why would you care what a person who's openly completely lost his mind says?
Are you also one of those people who go crazy over what Skip Bayless says? Even though he's clearly just saying things to make people go crazy..
Euroleague and Skip Bayless are the same, they just have different audiences.
They will only go as far as Joe Diesel takes them
Do not forget the other NBA rejects Acie Law and Kyle Hines.
Euroleague
10-12-2012, 12:44 AM
No lie, Euroleague said Dorsey is every bit as good as prime Ben Wallace, if not better, in one of the threads he was going on and on about Barcelona's win over the Mavs. Just said Dorsey wasn't given a fair shake in the NBA.
1. He IS every bit as good as prime Ben Wallace.
2. Neither prime Ben Wallace, nor current Joey Dorsey would ever sniff a Euroleague MVP award.
Euroleague
10-12-2012, 12:45 AM
Why would you care what a person who's openly completely lost his mind says?
Are you also one of those people who go crazy over what Skip Bayless says? Even though he's clearly just saying things to make people go crazy..
Euroleague and Skip Bayless are the same, they just have different audiences.
Apparently you forgot how Wallace was when he played in Europe.
KG215
10-12-2012, 12:56 AM
1. He IS every bit as good as prime Ben Wallace.
This has to be in the top 5 stupidest things you've ever posted. I don't think prime Ben Wallace would be Euroleague MVP caliber either, but Joey Dorsey wasn't nearly as good his first four years in the NBA as Ben Wallace was his first four years in the NBA before going to the Pistons...and pre-Pistons version of Wallace wasn't anything special. But pre-Euroleague version of Joey Dorsey was the very definition of NBA scrub, but worse.
Seriously, please tell me why you think Joey Dorsey is as good as prime Ben Wallace?
Dorsey could play 15 seasons in the NBA and he wouldn't have had 1/10th of the defensive impact in those 15 seasons combined as Ben Wallace did in his single best season.
Euroleague
10-12-2012, 01:15 AM
This has to be in the top 5 stupidest things you've ever posted. I don't think prime Ben Wallace would be Euroleague MVP caliber either, but Joey Dorsey wasn't nearly as good his first four years in the NBA as Ben Wallace was his first four years in the NBA before going to the Pistons...and pre-Pistons version of Wallace wasn't anything special. But pre-Euroleague version of Joey Dorsey was the very definition of NBA scrub, but worse.
Seriously, please tell me why you think Joey Dorsey is as good as prime Ben Wallace?
Dorsey could play 15 seasons in the NBA and he wouldn't have had 1/10th of the defensive impact in those 15 seasons combined as Ben Wallace did in his single best season.
Joey Dorsey is a beast. He just needed playing time. He's definitely not as good at rebounding or shot blocking as Ben Wallace was, but other than that, he's equal or better at everything else.
And he's basically the same exact type of player, only in all honesty, Dorsey has bigger potential. Dorsey actually has some offensive skills and talent, believe it or not. He can actually contribute something on offense.
And you keep going on and on about shit that is illogical and has no pertinence.
KG215
10-12-2012, 01:25 AM
Joey Dorsey is a beast. He just needed playing time. He's definitely not as good at rebounding or shot blocking as Ben Wallace was, but other than that, he's equal or better at everything else.
And he's basically the same exact type of player, only in all honesty, Dorsey has bigger potential. Dorsey actually has some offensive skills and talent, believe it or not. He can actually contribute something on offense.
And you keep going on and on about shit that is illogical and has no pertinence.
Yeah, except the gap between Ben Wallace's rebounding ability and defensive ability/impact laps Dorsey's several hundred times over. Whatever gap Dorsey could've ever potentially developed in the NBA as an offensive player never would've entered the same stratosphere as Wallace's defensive impact.
Just stop. Acting like Joey Dorsey was on the verge of breaking out and being as good as one of the best defensive anchors in NBA history (because he could've had a better offensive game) is ignorant. I may not be able to definitively say you're wrong in some of your outlandish claims about Euroleague players being able to do this or that in the NBA, but this is something I can definitely call you out on. I've seen enough of Joey Dorsey and saw a lot of Ben Wallace.
Like I said in the other thread. Dorsey was averaging about 10 MPG, 3 PPG, 4 RPG on some really bad teams. Before getting 12.1 MPG in just 43 games on a really bad Raptors team in 2011, he was a 6-7 MPG player on other bad teams. He was so bad he wasn't even really a rotational player on bad teams. And it wasn't because he was being "held-back." He just wasn't very good.
Ben Wallace, in his last three seasons (he played four in total) before going to the Pistons was averaging 20 MPG. He was a full-time starter by his last year in Orlando and averaged 5 PPG and 8 RPG. Obviously those aren't eye-popping numbers, but he was doing a lot more before breaking out with the Pistons than Dorsey even came close to doing before going the Euroleague route.
I wish Dorsey the best and hope he succeeds over there but you have absolutely zero evidence to say he's every bit as good as prime Ben Wallace, and if you truly believe that, then you have no idea just how significant Wallace's impact was on the defensive end.
ncrizzle
10-12-2012, 02:21 PM
Dorsey is just undersized. I think hes 6'8 in shoes. But the guy plays much bigger than his height suggests
wang4three
10-12-2012, 02:24 PM
Joey Dorsey, from what I remember at Memphis and Houston had motivation and mental issues. He doesn't seem to have the sense of competition that Ben Wallace does.
2. Neither prime Ben Wallace, nor current Joey Dorsey would ever sniff a Euroleague MVP award.
But Kirilenko and Anthony Parker have.
atljonesbro
10-12-2012, 02:51 PM
YOOO this dude Euroleague remind me of my homie Jayquizz. This nugga always be tryin to tell me that green kool-aid is better than red. I'm like NUGGA U SERIOUS HAHAHAHHA. He just keeps at it and at it for dayzz. He even said that da walmart brand green kool-aid was better than regular red im like wtf nugga r u dum. That nugga wack as fu*k and so is euroleague
kNIOKAS
10-12-2012, 03:04 PM
:lol Nick Young with another fail thread.
kNIOKAS
10-12-2012, 03:04 PM
YOOO this dude Euroleague remind me of my homie Jayquizz. This nugga always be tryin to tell me that green kool-aid is better than red. I'm like NUGGA U SERIOUS HAHAHAHHA. He just keeps at it and at it for dayzz. He even said that da walmart brand green kool-aid was better than regular red im like wtf nugga r u dum. That nugga wack as fu*k and so is euroleague
Friggin love your posts.
taucesays
10-12-2012, 03:12 PM
Joey Dorsey is a beast. He just needed playing time. He's definitely not as good at rebounding or shot blocking as Ben Wallace was, but other than that, he's equal or better at everything else.
And he's basically the same exact type of player, only in all honesty, Dorsey has bigger potential. Dorsey actually has some offensive skills and talent, believe it or not. He can actually contribute something on offense.
And you keep going on and on about shit that is illogical and has no pertinence.
Dorsey was 25 when he left Memphis. All the talent in the world wouldn't have made him into an NBA baller. The guy has nothing between his ears.
BGriffin's Dad
10-12-2012, 03:26 PM
who the **** is Joey Dorsey?
Done_And_Done
10-12-2012, 07:41 PM
After watching him play a copious amount with the Raptors I can say this with confidence. Dorsey brings it every night. He's got a golden heart and plays his ass off every chance given.
With that said, he's undersized and just flat out under-talented. He's a third string centre in the NBA at best. And that"s being generous.
Rooster
10-12-2012, 07:48 PM
After watching him play a copious amount with the Raptors I can say this with confidence. Dorsey brings it every night. He's got a golden heart and plays his ass off every chance given.
With that said, he's undersized and just flat out under-talented. He's a third string centre in the NBA at best. And that"s being generous.
But but but but he anchored defensively the Euroleague champion:oldlol:
What he did playing against the best players in NBA is irrelevant.
He is the Bill Russell of Euroleague.:bowdown:
Euroleague
10-12-2012, 08:57 PM
Yeah, except the gap between Ben Wallace's rebounding ability and defensive ability/impact laps Dorsey's several hundred times over. Whatever gap Dorsey could've ever potentially developed in the NBA as an offensive player never would've entered the same stratosphere as Wallace's defensive impact.
Just stop. Acting like Joey Dorsey was on the verge of breaking out and being as good as one of the best defensive anchors in NBA history (because he could've had a better offensive game) is ignorant. I may not be able to definitively say you're wrong in some of your outlandish claims about Euroleague players being able to do this or that in the NBA, but this is something I can definitely call you out on. I've seen enough of Joey Dorsey and saw a lot of Ben Wallace.
Like I said in the other thread. Dorsey was averaging about 10 MPG, 3 PPG, 4 RPG on some really bad teams. Before getting 12.1 MPG in just 43 games on a really bad Raptors team in 2011, he was a 6-7 MPG player on other bad teams. He was so bad he wasn't even really a rotational player on bad teams. And it wasn't because he was being "held-back." He just wasn't very good.
Ben Wallace, in his last three seasons (he played four in total) before going to the Pistons was averaging 20 MPG. He was a full-time starter by his last year in Orlando and averaged 5 PPG and 8 RPG. Obviously those aren't eye-popping numbers, but he was doing a lot more before breaking out with the Pistons than Dorsey even came close to doing before going the Euroleague route.
I wish Dorsey the best and hope he succeeds over there but you have absolutely zero evidence to say he's every bit as good as prime Ben Wallace, and if you truly believe that, then you have no idea just how significant Wallace's impact was on the defensive end.
And you have never ever seen Joey Dorsey play.
Euroleague
10-12-2012, 09:02 PM
Joey Dorsey, from what I remember at Memphis and Houston had motivation and mental issues. He doesn't seem to have the sense of competition that Ben Wallace does.
Yeah, it's reported a lot about how he gets depressed from being home sick, missing his mom a lot, and from something to do with his cousin.
Euroleague
10-12-2012, 09:05 PM
After watching him play a copious amount with the Raptors I can say this with confidence. Dorsey brings it every night. He's got a golden heart and plays his ass off every chance given.
With that said, he's undersized and just flat out under-talented. He's a third string centre in the NBA at best. And that"s being generous.
And what "talent" did Ben Wallace ever have?
Euroleague
10-12-2012, 09:06 PM
But but but but he anchored defensively the Euroleague champion:oldlol:
What he did playing against the best players in NBA is irrelevant.
He is the Bill Russell of Euroleague.:bowdown:
Your troll attempts are getting as weak as Nick Young's.
KG215
10-12-2012, 09:27 PM
And you have never ever seen Joey Dorsey play.
I saw him play a ton in college and sparingly in the NBA. So yes, I have. There's absolutely no way he's shown enough in a few games with whoever it is he's playing for to say he's every bit as good as prime Ben Wallace. He sure as hell didn't even come close to showing that kind of potential in the NBA.
And what "talent" did Ben Wallace ever have?
:biggums:
I saw almost every college game of Dorsey's at Memphis. He did basically idolize Ben Wallace back then and expressed that that was whom he was patterning his game after.
(On a side note, when Dorsey fouled out in that '08 Championship game I knew that there was no hope of us winning in OT without him. Caliapari! Why didn't you foul Chalmers at half court instead of giving him a chance at the 3?! Sorry...I'm still bitter 4 years later.)
Anyways, Dorsey did have a few "behavioral problems" in college. I vaguely remember him being involved in a night club incident or two. I didn't follow him into the league much and knew that he was a little undersized to be a center, but I had hoped that he could become the next Ben Wallace. I guess he just didn't have it in him.
Nick Young
10-15-2012, 12:47 PM
Joe Deisel ready to explode for 30/20 next game.
Euroleague
10-15-2012, 04:31 PM
Joe Deisel ready to explode for 30/20 next game.
He had 3 points and 7 rebounds in the next game, playing against Lazos Papadopoulos and Nikos Kalles.
http://www.esake.gr/main/index.php?pl=4&lng=en&pfpar=bWF0Y2hpZD0xMjE3
CavaliersFTW
10-15-2012, 04:59 PM
1. He IS every bit as good as prime Ben Wallace.
2. Neither prime Ben Wallace nor current Joey Dorsey would ever sniff a Euroleague MVP award.
http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/stephen-a-smith-laugh.gif
1.) Dorsey is a 6-6 center <----- :roll:
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements
2.) Dorsey couldn't sniff an NBA floor - coaches wouldn't even let him play and when he did play he performed AWFUL - career 2.6ppg 3.8rpg 0.5apg 0.3bpg in the NBA :oldlol:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/dorsejo01.html
"b-b-b-but he's as good as PRIME BEN WALLACE!!!!!!!!!!!!@!!!1111"
please. :lol
Euroleague
10-15-2012, 09:10 PM
Dorsey is 205 cm in shoes. Olympiacos team trainers measured him 3 different times, since there is that draftexpress 6-6 measurement.
205 = 6-9
So he's evidently more like 6-9 in shoes.
He looks to the eyes to be about 6-8 in shoes though......he's not 6-6 though as NBA counts it. He's 6-8 as NBA counts it (shoes height).
Ben Wallace was listed at 6-9, but said over and over he was really only 6-8 in shoes. So Dorsey is basically the same size as Wallace. And also bigger than NBA center Chuck Hayes, as already pointed out in this thread. Hayes is only 6-6 to 6-7 in shoes.
Cavs is a weak troll.
KG215
10-16-2012, 12:50 AM
Dorsey is 205 cm in shoes. Olympiacos team trainers measured him 3 different times, since there is that draftexpress 6-6 measurement.
205 = 6-9
So he's evidently more like 6-9 in shoes.
He looks to the eyes to be about 6-8 in shoes though......he's not 6-6 though as NBA counts it. He's 6-8 as NBA counts it (shoes height).
Ben Wallace was listed at 6-9, but said over and over he was really only 6-8 in shoes. So Dorsey is basically the same size as Wallace. And also bigger than NBA center Chuck Hayes, as already pointed out in this thread. Hayes is only 6-6 to 6-7 in shoes.
Cavs is a weak troll.
SJust because two players are similar in size which makes them undersized for their position, and just because their style of play vaguely resembles each other, doesn't mean one is as as good as the other in his prime. Especially when one was a 4-time DPOY and defensive anchor on an NBA championship team, and the other was a step below NBA scrub in his short lived NBA career.
Nothing he showed in the NBA could've led even the biggest Joey Dorsey fan on the planet to thinking "You know, I think he's on the verge of being the next Ben Wallace or being as good as Ben Wallace in his prime." Nothing. Calling Joey Dorsey an NBA scrub might be an insult to NBA scrubs. Ben Wallace, before breaking out in Detroit, was at least a pretty solid 20 MPG player.
Euroleague
10-26-2012, 09:11 AM
The word is that Olympiacos cut Joey Dorsey.
MasterDurant24
10-26-2012, 09:42 AM
And what "talent" did Ben Wallace ever have?
:facepalm One of the best defensive centers in history and the defensive anchor for one of greatest defensive teams in histroy. Sure he definitely wasn't great at all offensively but Dorsey still isn't in the ballpark with him.
kNIOKAS
10-26-2012, 09:51 AM
The word is that Olympiacos cut Joey Dorsey.
:roll:
Nick Young bombs again
Euroleague
11-10-2012, 07:07 AM
Anyway, Panathinaikos cut Hilton Armstrong. He averaged 1.5 and 0.5
http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=003331&clubcode=PAN&seasoncode=e2012
So, this forum's NBA only fans predicted Joey Dorsey and Hilton Armstrong would be 1/2 in Euroleague MVP and that both would average 30/20 in Euroleague.
Both have already been cut by their teams...............
The "domination" continues...
Euroleague: "Joey Dorsey>prime Ben Wallace"
Clearly, olympiacos was jelly of Joe Diesel's greatness.
Chapallaz
11-10-2012, 07:22 AM
Why isnt this thread moved here: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=6 ?????
KG215
11-10-2012, 02:20 PM
Euroleague: "Joey Dorsey>prime Ben Wallace"
Clearly, olympiacos was jelly of Joe Diesel's greatness.
Naw, it was just a big setup by Euroleague so he can eventually comeback and talk about how much Ben Wallaced sucked.
Euroleague
11-22-2012, 12:36 PM
After being cut by the Euroleague club Olympiacos, after averaging 3 points and 4 rebounds per game, Joey Dorsey has signed with what is generally considered to be the worst team in the Turkish League.
The Nick Young "Joey Dorsey Turkish League MVP" and "Joey Dorsey 30/20 per game Turkish League Wilt Chamberlain" countdowns begin in 3...2...1...
After being cut by the Euroleague club Olympiacos, after averaging 3 points and 4 rebounds per game, Joey Dorsey has signed with what is generally considered to be the worst team in the Turkish League.
The Nick Young "Joey Dorsey Turkish League MVP" and "Joey Dorsey 30/20 per game Turkish League Wilt Chamberlain" countdowns begin in 3...2...1...
1. He wasn't cut because he was bad, he was released because he publicly talked shit about the club.
2. He was replaced by yet another NBA reject and scrub, Josh Powell.
3. As a European, please stop. Basketball in this part of the world is irrelevant, I know, I'm from here. You're not fooling anyone.
Euroleague
11-22-2012, 02:31 PM
1. He wasn't cut because he was bad, he was released because he publicly talked shit about the club.
2. He was replaced by yet another NBA reject and scrub, Josh Powell.
3. As a European, please stop. Basketball in this part of the world is irrelevant, I know, I'm from here. You're not fooling anyone.
Your opinion is what is irrelevant.
KG215
11-22-2012, 02:46 PM
Your opinion is what is irrelevant.
Oh the irony. You should just change your screen nae to irony, because that's what 99% of your posts are these days. Every time you call someone stupid, ignorant, retarded, delusional, irrelevant, etc. you could be looking in the mirror and saying the exact same things and it'd all be true.
Suckafree
11-22-2012, 08:23 PM
YOOO this dude Euroleague remind me of my homie Jayquizz. This nugga always be tryin to tell me that green kool-aid is better than red. I'm like NUGGA U SERIOUS HAHAHAHHA. He just keeps at it and at it for dayzz. He even said that da walmart brand green kool-aid was better than regular red im like wtf nugga r u dum. That nugga wack as fu*k and so is euroleague
I need you to post more often
LoneyROY7
11-22-2012, 08:27 PM
YOOO this dude Euroleague remind me of my homie Jayquizz. This nugga always be tryin to tell me that green kool-aid is better than red. I'm like NUGGA U SERIOUS HAHAHAHHA. He just keeps at it and at it for dayzz. He even said that da walmart brand green kool-aid was better than regular red im like wtf nugga r u dum. That nugga wack as fu*k and so is euroleague
:bowdown:
Post of the year candidate.
G-train
11-22-2012, 08:30 PM
1. He wasn't cut because he was bad, he was released because he publicly talked shit about the club.
2. He was replaced by yet another NBA reject and scrub, Josh Powell.
3. As a European, please stop. Basketball in this part of the world is irrelevant, I know, I'm from here. You're not fooling anyone.
Where in Europe are you?
Euroleague
11-22-2012, 08:52 PM
Oh the irony. You should just change your screen nae to irony, because that's what 99% of your posts are these days. Every time you call someone stupid, ignorant, retarded, delusional, irrelevant, etc. you could be looking in the mirror and saying the exact same things and it'd all be true.
I have never seen you make a post here that was even remotely relevant.
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