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nathanjizzle
10-12-2012, 08:54 PM
its over. or is it just a lingerk reaction

inclinerator
10-12-2012, 10:35 PM
9 points 7 assist

Dbrog
10-12-2012, 10:39 PM
Good god! Asik - 15 boards in 28 mins :wtf:

TheAesirsFinest
10-12-2012, 10:45 PM
Good god! Asik - 15 boards in 28 mins :wtf:

:bowdown: :bowdown:
His stamina is pretty damn good now too! Carroll Dawson (Asik's big man coach) is a magician :bowdown:

Dbrog
10-12-2012, 10:48 PM
I would be absolutely shocked if Asik became as good as Noah (numberwise), but now it doesn't seem so out of the question :bowdown:

blacknapalm
10-12-2012, 10:56 PM
Good god! Asik - 15 boards in 28 mins :wtf:

get used to it. he had a 14.9 offensive rebound rate last year (2nd in the league). wouldn't surprise me at all if he finishes top 5 in rebounding.

defense is also elite. good in the post, has great agility and quickness to pair with his instincts on help defense and is also adept at guarding the P&R well.

when he & taj were on the court together, they were rebounding/defense hounds.

as far as stamina...it's always been there. the big man coach is going to have his work cut out for him on the offensive end. he has to have his shot set up and his hands aren't great. he does finish strongly at the rim though.

asik's out for blood *****

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2011/basketball/nba/05/21/heat.bulls.ap/p1.omar-asik.usp.jpg

Dbrog
10-12-2012, 11:02 PM
:oldlol: nice

SourPatchKids
10-12-2012, 11:05 PM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb2ms0kkHc1r2xg17o1_500.gif http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb2ms0kkHc1r2xg17o1_500.gif http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb2ms0kkHc1r2xg17o1_500.gif

Clutch
10-13-2012, 07:06 AM
Linsanity is over. He'll still put up solid numbers but he'll never again even come near to what he did during Linsanity.

Legends66NBA7
10-13-2012, 07:14 AM
Linsanity is over. He'll still put up solid numbers but he'll never again even come near to what he did during Linsanity.

Yup, the little hype train that could...

Real Men Wear Green
10-13-2012, 07:24 AM
He had two weeks or so where he was MVP-worthy. I don't think he'll be like that from here on out but I didn't see him do anything that seemed completely unsustainable. If Houston is willing to live with a ton of turnovers a 17/8 or better season is what I'm expecting. But if they feel like his TOs are killing them then they'll have a 10/5 part-time starter.

nathanjizzle
10-13-2012, 08:26 AM
actually i think he played great last night. Him and kevin martin looked great together. lin is alot stronger and faster than last season, his handles is alot better also. i think he will have a handful of linsanity type of games this season.

spiegel
10-13-2012, 08:52 AM
actually i think he played great last night. Him and kevin martin looked great together. lin is alot stronger and faster than last season, his handles is alot better also. i think he will have a handful of linsanity type of games this season.
He has looked average in both gamers so far but it's the pre season so it dosent matter. We need him to play well in the regular season.

9512
10-13-2012, 09:07 AM
7 assists to 2 TOs vs the Hornets.

That in itself is a sign of good things to come.

Rekindled
10-13-2012, 11:59 AM
9 pts 7 assists 2 st in 20 min? not bad imo

kurple
10-13-2012, 12:13 PM
Linsanity is over. He'll still put up solid numbers but he'll never again even come near to what he did during Linsanity.
the sad thing is most people didnt think this would happen. I know for a fact you thought he could keep it up.

boozehound
10-13-2012, 01:33 PM
get used to it. he had a 14.9 offensive rebound rate last year (2nd in the league). wouldn't surprise me at all if he finishes top 5 in rebounding.

defense is also elite. good in the post, has great agility and quickness to pair with his instincts on help defense and is also adept at guarding the P&R well.

when he & taj were on the court together, they were rebounding/defense hounds.

as far as stamina...it's always been there. the big man coach is going to have his work cut out for him on the offensive end. he has to have his shot set up and his hands aren't great. he does finish strongly at the rim though.

asik's out for blood *****

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2011/basketball/nba/05/21/heat.bulls.ap/p1.omar-asik.usp.jpg
yep, dude has a hell of a motor and good instincts to go with above average quickness and athleticism. Definitely a good pick up for houston, probably better than lin.

blablabla
10-13-2012, 01:35 PM
this has to be the worst thread title ever

boozehound
10-13-2012, 01:40 PM
Linsanity is over. He'll still put up solid numbers but he'll never again even come near to what he did during Linsanity.
anyone who expected him to is a dumbass who very limited reasoning. That 14? game stretch was a perfect storm that played to lin's strengths and allowed him to play above and beyond himself. It wont be matched. his stat production during that stretch was comparable with some of the best lines in history (granted it was only 14? games).

But he will be a decent and serviceable pg on that team. McHale is a smart coach and lin is a great fit for how he runs an offense. Cant wait to see Asik's improvement, both with a larger role and mchale's influence.

swi7ch
10-13-2012, 02:08 PM
west all star srtarter

Clutch
10-13-2012, 02:14 PM
the sad thing is most people didnt think this would happen. I know for a fact you thought he could keep it up.
I never said such a thing. I knew he couldn't keep that up (averaging 25/8 or whatever during the whole season). But I said it wasn't impossible for him to average 15/7 over the longer time period which I still think he's able to do if he gets enough shots and touches.

ihoopallday
10-13-2012, 02:16 PM
Jeremy Lin got his payday. Doubt he cares anymore. He's set for life.

Real Men Wear Green
10-13-2012, 02:23 PM
Jeremy Lin got his payday. Doubt he cares anymore. He's set for life.
How would you know that? There are a lot of players that make more than him, are they all just coasting too?

StateOfMind12
10-13-2012, 02:28 PM
He didn't have a bad game (9/7/2 with only 2 TOs) and even if he did it doesn't matter because it's just preseason.

Thread fail.

Cali Syndicate
10-13-2012, 03:43 PM
I imagine Lin will put up something like 14 and 7 on a decent clip. If he can keep his TO's low, probably will be a top 20 PG.

I really do hope he wasn't all hype though. That would be truly disappointing.

miller-time
10-13-2012, 06:17 PM
what do people expect him to do in a preseason game? score 35 and 10?

Rolando
10-13-2012, 07:33 PM
He will still have his moments. Once you've tasted the sweetness and the glory of dominating a game, you are changed forever. It is a mental thing. Most NBA players have not experienced it but Lin has. He will find his way back.

Generally he will be fairly average but there will always be that potential lurking. I will appear again. Definitely.

maybeshewill13
10-13-2012, 07:49 PM
west all star srtarter

:roll:

Whoah10115
10-13-2012, 08:04 PM
:roll:




Fans vote. Don't be so sure it doesn't matter.

maybeshewill13
10-13-2012, 08:22 PM
Fans vote. Don't be so sure it doesn't matter.

:facepalm

nightprowler10
10-13-2012, 08:54 PM
yep, dude has a hell of a motor and good instincts to go with above average quickness and athleticism. Definitely a good pick up for houston, probably better than lin.
Yeah I was really devastated we couldn't hang on to him. We're really going to miss him if/when Noah goes down again.

Whoah10115
10-13-2012, 09:03 PM
:facepalm



I no get.

maybeshewill13
10-13-2012, 09:06 PM
I no get.

I was face-palming that I believe there's actually enough morons in this world that something so idiotic could happen.

Heavincent
10-13-2012, 09:08 PM
You know, It seems like Linsanity was just the NBA's futile attempt at creating their own Tebowmania.

BlitzForce
10-14-2012, 01:35 AM
Stats aren't everything, he played pretty good, and looks sharper as far as overall play goes. Scoring isn't everything...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OamYS6VKoFE

Whoah10115
10-14-2012, 01:37 AM
I was face-palming that I believe there's actually enough morons in this world that something so idiotic could happen.



Once you really realize it you'll start :cry: instead.

IGOTGAME
10-14-2012, 02:31 PM
He looks horrible right now.

Clutch
10-14-2012, 02:38 PM
Lin stinking it up so far :roll: :roll: :roll:

Felton >>>> Lin

RRR3
10-14-2012, 03:20 PM
0-9 so far today damn.

BlueandGold
10-14-2012, 03:28 PM
Good god! Asik - 15 boards in 28 mins :wtf:
He was playing against Sacre or someone even lower on the lineup the majority of the time. Not to mention Gasol.

coin24
10-14-2012, 03:51 PM
Lin stinking it up so far :roll: :roll: :roll:

Felton >>>> Lin

This:lol :lol

KLovin
10-14-2012, 04:02 PM
He was playing against Sacre or someone even lower on the lineup the majority of the time. Not to mention Gasol.

What? When?

jdm_dc_fan
10-14-2012, 06:01 PM
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s128/jdm_dc_fan/Jeremy-Lin13.jpg

SourPatchKids
10-14-2012, 06:04 PM
What are you talking about.
http://media.miamiherald.com/smedia/2012/10/14/16/35/615-11ng2x.Em.55.jpeg

Check out that spectacular Superman side plank.

Blue&Orange
10-14-2012, 06:28 PM
Scott Machado >> Lin

Daryl Morey :applause: :lol

bagelred
10-14-2012, 10:23 PM
Wow, everyone is jumpLin off the bandwagLin so fast.

AK47DR91
10-14-2012, 10:33 PM
Linsanity is dead but Team Asiasik is born!

Rockets vs Knicks 2014 NBA Finals, the rematch twenty-years later.

http://www.fbasketballblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Jeremy-Lin-and-Omer-Asik.jpeg

bluechox2
10-15-2012, 12:16 AM
1-10 and 1 assist

:facepalm

veilside23
10-15-2012, 01:23 AM
its painful to watch Lin play this way.. i hope its just the preseason

bluechox2
10-15-2012, 01:27 AM
its painful to watch Lin play this way.. i hope its just the preseason

O Wait, it's only preseason??? I wonder how he will be when the season begins and teams actually play to their full strengths

veilside23
10-15-2012, 01:46 AM
O Wait, it's only preseason??? I wonder how he will be when the season begins and teams actually play to their full strengths


why are you so mad?? didnt lin brought some glory days for NY? its not his fault he isnt there now ... :facepalm

bluechox2
10-15-2012, 02:05 AM
why are you so mad?? didnt lin brought some glory days for NY? its not his fault he isnt there now ... :facepalm

he was great when he played with us, but he isnt worth the money he was paid

but im kinda glad with the ways things have went

i was skeptical about bringing in felton but so far, he has been good

Clutch
10-15-2012, 04:09 AM
why are you so mad?? didnt lin brought some glory days for NY? its not his fault he isnt there now ... :facepalm
Actually it is. If he didn't restructured his contract just to make things harder for NY to match he would still be a Knick.

Well,I'm glad he's gone. If you don't want to play for the Knicks then go away.
We have Felton who is even better than him.

shoops
10-15-2012, 04:15 AM
Actually it is. If he didn't restructured his contract just to make things harder for NY to match he would still be a Knick.

Well,I'm glad he's gone. If you don't want to play for the Knicks then go away.
We have Felton who is even better than him.
:rolleyes:

Lebron23
10-15-2012, 04:26 AM
Linsanity is over. He will still be a solid PG in the NBA. Let's see if he can improve his productions in the Regular Season.

Walker
10-15-2012, 04:38 AM
Linsanity is dead but Team Asiasik is born!

Rockets vs Knicks 2014 NBA Finals, the rematch twenty-years later.

http://www.fbasketballblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Jeremy-Lin-and-Omer-Asik.jpeg
All that picture says to me is...

30 MILLION in 2 years time :facepalm

spiegel
10-15-2012, 05:00 AM
Lets see how he does in the regular season first.

maybeshewill13
10-15-2012, 05:40 AM
Lin playing at his true, non-fairytale level. No surprises here.

bagelred
10-15-2012, 06:19 AM
All that picture says to me is...

30 MILLION in 2 years time :facepalm

For Rockets, that's not true as far as salary cap. Gets spread evenly.

Wow, how quickly my fellow Knick fans say "Good riddance!!!" Wasn't it just three months ago we were cursing Dolan for not matching?

I hope he does great. But I always had some doubts if he could sustain. He does not have an NBA handle for a point guard.......

Clutch
10-15-2012, 07:39 AM
For Rockets, that's not true as far as salary cap. Gets spread evenly.

Wow, how quickly my fellow Knick fans say "Good riddance!!!" Wasn't it just three months ago we were cursing Dolan for not matching?

I hope he does great. But I always had some doubts if he could sustain. He does not have an NBA handle for a point guard.......
Some of there were. I never did. I was actually happy when I heard he's gone after he restructured that contract.
Felton isn't any worse than him and he's even a better fit for this Knicks team.

9512
10-15-2012, 08:52 AM
it seems like people judge Lin based on game to game basis.

During the Linsanity, they were praising him.

He plays one bad game and his entire career will stink.

niko
10-15-2012, 09:34 AM
For Rockets, that's not true as far as salary cap. Gets spread evenly.

Wow, how quickly my fellow Knick fans say "Good riddance!!!" Wasn't it just three months ago we were cursing Dolan for not matching?

I hope he does great. But I always had some doubts if he could sustain. He does not have an NBA handle for a point guard.......

I still am because that was a decision based on non basketball things. Plus Dolan is a total prick. I'll never like him. But Lin structured his contract to leave. This is the NY Knicks, you don't want to be here **** U and don't expect (like he does) hugs and kisses when you visit.

I think what's irking me about Lin lately is him trying to rewrite that he wanted to play heroically and no one let him (i have no issue he didn't play but he didn't try to play, that's just false) and that people seem to think NY wants him to return as a conquering hero. Maybe a week after he left, but that's done.

The Knicks totally ****ed up the Lin situation but i'm hard pressed to think he didn't want out the way things went down.

niko
10-15-2012, 09:36 AM
People expect too much from him too, he can't play breakneck and reckless for 35 minutes a night every night. He'll break down. He's not physically built that strong. He needs to play a slower style, which means 30/10 is not happening nor does it need to for him to be a good player.

9512
10-15-2012, 09:41 AM
People expect too much from him too, he can't play breakneck and reckless for 35 minutes a night every night. He'll break down. He's not physically built that strong. He needs to play a slower style, which means 30/10 is not happening nor does it need to for him to be a good player.

We've seen players play at break neck speed. They've gotten injured at 1 point or another. D Rose most recently. And though tony Parker has never been seriously injured, watch him play to day in 2012 and compare it to 2003-2007. He's much less reckless today compared to past seasons.

Lin could reach 30 and 10 (after triple overtime lol)

bagelred
10-15-2012, 09:42 AM
I still am because that was a decision based on non basketball things. Plus Dolan is a total prick. I'll never like him. But Lin structured his contract to leave. This is the NY Knicks, you don't want to be here **** U and don't expect (like he does) hugs and kisses when you visit.

I think what's irking me about Lin lately is him trying to rewrite that he wanted to play heroically and no one let him (i have no issue he didn't play but he didn't try to play, that's just false) and that people seem to think NY wants him to return as a conquering hero. Maybe a week after he left, but that's done.

The Knicks totally ****ed up the Lin situation but i'm hard pressed to think he didn't want out the way things went down.

I don't know. Part of me thinks maybe smart decision to let Lin go. I mean, Knicks are ready to win NOW...right now. Melo, Amare, Chandler are in their primes. Lin is still figuring his game out, and we know it doesn't mesh perfectly with Melo anyway......emotionally, though, I wanted Lin to come back....but intellectually, I think a motivated, in shape Felton could be better in short term. Felton's looking good so far in preseason. Felton is right in his prime with 6 years under his belt and has good NBA skillset......

I think both Knicks and Lin are to blame for the breakup. If Knicks really wanted Lin, why didn't they give him an offer? Why force Lin to get an offer from someone else? Didn't they know someone would give a loaded contract? What was Lin supposed to do, not sign the offer sheet? He only had ONE offer?

But from Lin's perspective...if he TRULY wanted New York, why didn't he go to Grunwald and say "Listen, I won't test free agent market if you give me a 4 year full MLE offer, with a player opt out after three. Otherwise, I'm testing the market". I think Knicks would do that. Lin gets less money, but no games and guaranteed New York.....

The whole thing was weird. But ultimately, could be better for Knicks for right now. But true, Dolan might have done right thing for the wrong reason.

niko
10-15-2012, 09:50 AM
I don't know. Part of me thinks maybe smart decision to let Lin go. I mean, Knicks are ready to win NOW...right now. Melo, Amare, Chandler are in their primes. Lin is still figuring his game out, and we know it doesn't mesh perfectly with Melo anyway......emotionally, though, I wanted Lin to come back....but intellectually, I think a motivated, in shape Felton could be better in short term. Felton's looking good so far in preseason. Felton is right in his prime with 6 years under his belt and has good NBA skillset......

I think both Knicks and Lin are to blame for the breakup. If Knicks really wanted Lin, why didn't they give him an offer? Why force Lin to get an offer from someone else? Didn't they know someone would give a loaded contract? What was Lin supposed to do, not sign the offer sheet? He only had ONE offer?

But from Lin's perspective...if he TRULY wanted New York, why didn't he go to Grunwald and say "Listen, I won't test free agent market if you give me a 4 year full MLE offer, with a player opt out after three. Otherwise, I'm testing the market". I think Knicks would do that. Lin gets less money, but no games and guaranteed New York.....

The whole thing was weird. But ultimately, could be better for Knicks for right now. But true, Dolan might have done right thing for the wrong reason.

I agree 100%. The thing i don't get listening to Lin is he really seems to think he transcended the team. He is fully expecting a conquering hero's welcome. He's not getting that. If Kurt Thomas knocks him into the new garden ceiling the crowd will roar. This is not a minor league team, this is not small market we are just happy to be here. Once you leave you leave. It's the way it needs to be. He'll get his initial thank you ovation then we are going to try to **** you up.

Him talking like that is not the case irks me. I feel like he didn't get MSG and Knick fans at all.

bagelred
10-15-2012, 01:32 PM
Him talking like that is not the case irks me. I feel like he didn't get MSG and Knick fans at all.

When did Lin say this? :confusedshrug:

niko
10-15-2012, 01:39 PM
When did Lin say this? :confusedshrug:

Couple of places. Chinese papers. NBA TV talking to him when camp started. Same interviews where he says he's not yet ok. I'd like to put word for word but i don't remember, i remember sitting there with my wife and thinking he didn't get it. Sorry. His tone irks me. It also irked me when he said playing at MSG was "distracting" and that the fan attention bothered him, and there were a lot of freaky people around. (He said this after he signed in HOuston about if Linsanity would continue.) I remember being at MSG for Linsanity, and when asked about it i would have expected him to say it was amazing, and he said it was distracting. Maybe it was, but that's the first thing he remembered? i know it's unfair, but it feels like i ran into a good friend from high school and said "REMEMBER HOW MUCH FUN WE HAD?" and they told me "Nah, it was all pretty boring for me".

Basically i thought Lin was having the time of his life and listening to him now, it feels like he was planning an exit strategy. Makes me sad. :cry:

bagelred
10-15-2012, 04:44 PM
Couple of places. Chinese papers. NBA TV talking to him when camp started. Same interviews where he says he's not yet ok. I'd like to put word for word but i don't remember, i remember sitting there with my wife and thinking he didn't get it. Sorry. His tone irks me. It also irked me when he said playing at MSG was "distracting" and that the fan attention bothered him, and there were a lot of freaky people around. (He said this after he signed in HOuston about if Linsanity would continue.) I remember being at MSG for Linsanity, and when asked about it i would have expected him to say it was amazing, and he said it was distracting. Maybe it was, but that's the first thing he remembered? i know it's unfair, but it feels like i ran into a good friend from high school and said "REMEMBER HOW MUCH FUN WE HAD?" and they told me "Nah, it was all pretty boring for me".

Basically i thought Lin was having the time of his life and listening to him now, it feels like he was planning an exit strategy. Makes me sad. :cry:

Players always do that. "Yeah, the city I was in was PRETTY good. But CURRENT CITY has the greatest fans in the world!! I can't wait to play here!!"

Probably just some of that........

LamarOdom
10-15-2012, 04:54 PM
Hello Class!

Redbagel just said Knicks are ready to win a ship right now, what are your reactions?

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Jax
10-15-2012, 04:59 PM
Mario Chalmers pwned that hoe.

Cali Syndicate
10-15-2012, 05:05 PM
Hello Class!

Redbagel just said Knicks are ready to win a ship right now, what are your reactions?

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Gonna be hard or them to make the final four. Making the elite eight is very likely though if they can stay a middle seed.

taucesays
10-15-2012, 05:07 PM
Gonna be hard or them to make the final four. Making the elite eight is very likely though if they can stay a middle seed.

Stop using NCAA names for NBA playoffs. It's wrong and stupid.

Cali Syndicate
10-15-2012, 05:09 PM
Mario Chalmers pwned that hoe.

Chalmers is a good defender surrounded by an array of very perimeter defenders who understand how to play team defense and rotate properly. Not that Lin is a player that will be collapsing many defenses but still.....

Cali Syndicate
10-15-2012, 05:12 PM
Stop using NCAA names for NBA playoffs. It's wrong and stupid.

Final four.....conference finals. Same shit. But okay, point taken.

mark
10-15-2012, 05:16 PM
Players always do that. "Yeah, the city I was in was PRETTY good. But CURRENT CITY has the greatest fans in the world!! I can't wait to play here!!"

Probably just some of that........


now that he is headed for the land of obscurity, should he tag onto Kim Kardashian as a glimmer of last hope of celebrity status, or any status at all whatsoever?:confusedshrug:

bagelred
10-15-2012, 05:29 PM
Hello Class!

Redbagel just said Knicks are ready to win a ship right now, what are your reactions?

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Is this Fox News?

I said Knicks are TRYING to go for a championship right now. That's why Felton might make more sense in the next 3-4 years. I didn't say they would win it.

shoops
10-15-2012, 05:50 PM
Couple of places. Chinese papers. NBA TV talking to him when camp started. Same interviews where he says he's not yet ok. I'd like to put word for word but i don't remember, i remember sitting there with my wife and thinking he didn't get it. Sorry. His tone irks me. It also irked me when he said playing at MSG was "distracting" and that the fan attention bothered him, and there were a lot of freaky people around. (He said this after he signed in HOuston about if Linsanity would continue.) I remember being at MSG for Linsanity, and when asked about it i would have expected him to say it was amazing, and he said it was distracting. Maybe it was, but that's the first thing he remembered? i know it's unfair, but it feels like i ran into a good friend from high school and said "REMEMBER HOW MUCH FUN WE HAD?" and they told me "Nah, it was all pretty boring for me".

Basically i thought Lin was having the time of his life and listening to him now, it feels like he was planning an exit strategy. Makes me sad. :cry:
I think you probably interpreted the wrong way... I believe he said something about how he enjoyed the fans and experience, yet at the same time there was so much attention and pressure, he probably was uncomfortable as he's not exactly the attention whore type. He said something about not wanting to let the hype make him feel too full of it. Also the media probably put a twist on some of the stuff being said. But for the knicks fans who are trashing him for bs reasons, that's just sad.

LamarOdom
10-15-2012, 06:07 PM
Is this Fox News?

I said Knicks are TRYING to go for a championship right now. That's why Felton might make more sense in the next 3-4 years. I didn't say they would win it.

hahah says the father of the Breaking News threads:banana: I love them though


Part of me thinks maybe smart decision to let Lin go. I mean, Knicks are ready to win NOW...right now. Melo, Amare, Chandler are in their primes.

Not trying to hate or anything since Marshmellow is one of my favorite players around the top 5 but I don't think a duo och STAT and Melo will ever win unless they get the help of another superstar and why?


STAT is what 30-31 years? what happens when his athleticism completely fades away? I give STAT a two year window before stopped being labeled a star, then you got Melo a very ball dependent player and both he and Amar'e looks lost when they play together.

With Amar'e' age and with Miami, Lakers and Thunders having better teams that are better built I can't see them winning with this team.

There is a chance they make the Conferance Finals but even that's gonna be hard, I still think Pacers, Heat and Celtics are better then them.

If I was a Knick I would just sit back and wait for STAT's contract to end and then start to rebuild.

TheAesirsFinest
10-15-2012, 06:12 PM
Actually it is. If he didn't restructured his contract just to make things harder for NY to match he would still be a Knick.

Well,I'm glad he's gone. If you don't want to play for the Knicks then go away.
We have Felton who is even better than him.

I have never heard anything more than unsubstantiated rumors to support this, whereas I've heard quotes from Daryl Morey and Lin disproving this.

RRR3
10-15-2012, 06:25 PM
I have never heard anything more than unsubstantiated rumors to support this, whereas I've heard quotes from Daryl Morey and Lin disproving this.
Aesirs any interest in joining a fantasy basketball league?

fatboy11
10-15-2012, 06:26 PM
I don't know, for the life of me, why any Knick fan would be upset/mad/annoyed/irked/whatever about anything Jeremy Lin does right now. They should be doing backflips that they aren't stick with him. As a Rocket fan, the prospect of this guy being the face of the franchise for at least the next couple of years is unsettling, to say the least. I'm hoping and praying that it works out, but every time he opens his mouth, I feel less and less confident.

Knick fans - who gives a shit about whatever moves Jeremy Lin pulled during the offer sheet process and who gives a shit why Dolan let him go? BE HAPPY THAT IT HAPPENED. Seriously. You should be enjoying yourselves watching his situation unfold right now.

RRR3
10-15-2012, 06:27 PM
I don't know, for the life of me, why any Knick fan would be upset/mad/annoyed/irked/whatever about anything Jeremy Lin does right now. They should be doing backflips that they aren't stick with him. As a Rocket fan, the prospect of this guy being the face of the franchise for at least the next couple of years is unsettling, to say the least. I'm hoping and praying that it works out, but every time he opens his mouth, I feel less and less confident.

Knick fans - who gives a shit about whatever moves Jeremy Lin pulled during the offer sheet process and who gives a shit why Dolan let him go? BE HAPPY THAT IT HAPPENED. Seriously. You should be enjoying yourselves watching his situation unfold right now.
Explain please?

fatboy11
10-15-2012, 06:36 PM
Explain please?

Let me rephrase that.

Everytime I read something about him (with comments he made about his knee part of that), I feel less and less confident about him.

I don't like reading that his knee STILL isn't ready to go when it was debatable whether or not he could have played in late April in the playoffs. I don't like reading that the coaches think he needs to "work harder". Stuff like that. Sometimes, I get the sense that Jeremy Lin doesn't really understand that he's in the NBA and is the face of an entire franchise. It's almost as if he wasn't even expecting to still be in the NBA or be anything more than an end-of-the-bench reserve.

Maybe I'm starting to overreact, but I feel like I've given him enough of the benefit of the doubt. He just makes me feel uneasy. We'll see what happens when the regular season starts, but all this stuff about his work ethic and knee not being ready is pretty alarming.

TheAesirsFinest
10-15-2012, 06:38 PM
Aesirs any interest in joining a fantasy basketball league?

Sorry, I can't. I'm too busy with college nowadays.

veilside23
10-15-2012, 07:13 PM
Let me rephrase that.

Everytime I read something about him (with comments he made about his knee part of that), I feel less and less confident about him.

I don't like reading that his knee STILL isn't ready to go when it was debatable whether or not he could have played in late April in the playoffs. I don't like reading that the coaches think he needs to "work harder". Stuff like that. Sometimes, I get the sense that Jeremy Lin doesn't really understand that he's in the NBA and is the face of an entire franchise. It's almost as if he wasn't even expecting to still be in the NBA or be anything more than an end-of-the-bench reserve.

Maybe I'm starting to overreact, but I feel like I've given him enough of the benefit of the doubt. He just makes me feel uneasy. We'll see what happens when the regular season starts, but all this stuff about his work ethic and knee not being ready is pretty alarming.


maybe he really doesnt get the fact that he is at houston to be the face of the franchise ... i doubt he could be .... option 2 maybe... but i doubt he becomes the face of houston . I could be wrong ... I think the bigs that you have will have a say about that ... asik and dmo.... As it stands right i can see that this is kevin martin's team ... i cant believe i just said that.... darn...

but houston has a nice team in years time they will be better for sure ... got many trade assets as well who knows they might be ready for josh smith.

fatboy11
10-15-2012, 09:55 PM
maybe he really doesnt get the fact that he is at houston to be the face of the franchise ... i doubt he could be .... option 2 maybe... but i doubt he becomes the face of houston . I could be wrong ... I think the bigs that you have will have a say about that ... asik and dmo.... As it stands right i can see that this is kevin martin's team ... i cant believe i just said that.... darn...

but houston has a nice team in years time they will be better for sure ... got many trade assets as well who knows they might be ready for josh smith.

Kevin Martin isn't in the future plans, so this definitely isn't his team. He could be traded any day now, and he doesn't like McHale.

Jeremy Lin is definitely the current face of the Rockets franchise. He's their most popular play and the starting PG. They're expecting him to lead the team.

L.Kizzle
10-15-2012, 09:59 PM
Kevin Martin isn't in the future plans, so this definitely isn't his team. He could be traded any day now, and he doesn't like McHale.

Jeremy Lin is definitely the current face of the Rockets franchise. He's their most popular play and the starting PG. They're expecting him to lead the team.
They're expecting him to make Houston a lot of money in the Asian community. If he does well, it's an extra bonus.

TheAesirsFinest
10-15-2012, 10:00 PM
Kevin Martin isn't in the future plans, so this definitely isn't his team. He could be traded any day now, and he doesn't like McHale.

Jeremy Lin is definitely the current face of the Rockets franchise. He's their most popular play and the starting PG. They're expecting him to lead the team.

It seems KMart may be back in the future plans. Everybody's been talking about how good of a leader and player he's been for us in the training camp, and KMart's now on good terms with McHale and Morey.

MeLO MvP 15
10-15-2012, 11:38 PM
They're expecting him to make Houston a lot of money in the Asian community. If he does well, it's an extra bonus.
What everyone seems to ignore is that if Lin stinks it up and ends up going back to a bench role, he's not gonna do much for Houston money wise. I mean Yi gets votes for the ASG but he doesn't bring any of those teams he bench warmed for money from Asia.

Btw, it's not me saying I think/ want Lin to suck. I think he'll be solid, maybe above average for Houston. He's in the perfect system (high octane pick and roll) with the right players around him (shooters, hustlers and cutters) for him to do so.

Lin really did nothing wrong to NY. He went for more money like anybody would do (and NY said they'd match anything). I'm not gonna say I'm happy yet that we didn't match, but it's not the end of the world. My problem has always been that the reasoning for not matching is what infuriates me. I mean it could turn out to be a genius move (if Lin sucks) or a horrible mistake (if he's a star), but either way... the decision shouldn't have been based on Dolan's emotions.

jstern
10-16-2012, 12:15 AM
The title scared the hell out of me. I thought he completely destroyed his knee or something.

westside_baller
10-16-2012, 12:36 AM
This entire thread if filled with fail and stupidity.

Dude has one off game and all of the haters, who are basically jealous little b1tches come out of the woodwork to post their illogical rants.

He had one off game. He's coming off knee surgery. He's with a new team, a new coach and a completely new system. This is his third coach and second team in less than half a season.

And yet, every numbnut lin hater/carmelo ******ger comes out of the woodwork to post their anyonymous hatred. That is, in between bouts of *********ing to gay male porn, world of warcraft and krispykreme 3 a days.

This is reality. It takes time for athletes to recover fully from knee surgery. It's a meaningless post-season game. Now go back to jerking off in your mom's basement.

50inchvertical
10-16-2012, 12:57 AM
Westbrook destroyed him a few days ago. He still goes right 200% of the time and jumps to make passes that end in turnovers

BlitzForce
10-16-2012, 01:03 AM
Subbing for future LOLZ :basketball

SevereUpInHere
10-16-2012, 01:09 AM
This entire thread if filled with fail and stupidity.

Dude has one off game and all of the haters, who are basically jealous little b1tches come out of the woodwork to post their illogical rants.

He had one off game. He's coming off knee surgery. He's with a new team, a new coach and a completely new system. This is his third coach and second team in less than half a season.

And yet, every numbnut lin hater/carmelo ******ger comes out of the woodwork to post their anyonymous hatred. That is, in between bouts of *********ing to gay male porn, world of warcraft and krispykreme 3 a days.

This is reality. It takes time for athletes to recover fully from knee surgery. It's a meaningless post-season game. Now go back to jerking off in your mom's basement.


:oldlol: :oldlol: Shit, I've never heard someone so mad. Typical of the sort of person who blames constructive, legit criticism on 'haters'. Good luck to Lin I guess, he's not on my team anymore so I couldn't care less how he does.

I think he's still going to be good, but being the focal point of the offence and now teams have had more time to scout him he's obviously never going to repeat Linsanity type numbers over the long term.

HardwoodLegend
10-16-2012, 01:32 AM
What everyone seems to ignore is that if Lin stinks it up and ends up going back to a bench role, he's not gonna do much for Houston money wise. I mean Yi gets votes for the ASG but he doesn't bring any of those teams he bench warmed for money from Asia.

Yi never achieved 1/10th of the name Lin has.

Linsanity was huge in fanfare acquisition, especially Asia. Even if he did land on the bench, mad people will still be loyal and have his back.

T-Mac is still pretty big in China to this day.

westside_baller
10-16-2012, 01:59 AM
he's not on my team anymore so I couldn't care less how he does.

I think he's still going to be good, but being the focal point of the offence and now teams have had more time to scout him he's obviously never going to repeat Linsanity type numbers over the long term.

You cared enough to post a two paragraph rant. :D Get over it, your owner's an idiot and your two stars can't play together. The knicks will be always be mediocre as long as dolan's running the team.

The only reason why they have a chance of finishing over 500 is because they're an eastern conference team. If they played against WC teams, they'd be lucky to win 30 games. TRUTH.

westside_baller
10-16-2012, 02:00 AM
Westbrook destroyed him a few days ago. He still goes right 200% of the time and jumps to make passes that end in turnovers

More stupidity. Lin's recovering from a knee injury. Jordan went right "200%" of the time and had a decent career. You mad?

maybeshewill13
10-16-2012, 02:02 AM
More stupidity. Lin's recovering from a knee injury. Jordan went right "200%" of the time and had a decent career. You mad?

Lin's bad, deal with it nikka :sleeping Stop being so mad we're telling the truth about your asian lover-boy.

westside_baller
10-16-2012, 02:55 AM
Lin's bad, deal with it nikka :sleeping Stop being so mad we're telling the truth about your asian lover-boy.

Hmm, it's wonderful reading replies from inmates. Speaking of your lover-boy...

coin24
10-16-2012, 02:59 AM
Lin should spend less time whoring out his man pus.s.y ladyboy style, and rehab his knee properly...
Also he should work on dribbling left, not jumping when he passes, and not turning the ball over 8 times a game.. You know, basic pg shit:oldlol:

westside_baller
10-16-2012, 03:01 AM
Lin should spend less time whoring out his man pus.s.y ladyboy style, and rehab his knee properly...
Also he should work on dribbling left, not jumping when he passes, and not turning the ball over 8 times a game.. You know, basic pg shit:oldlol:

OK, you've got even more basic concerns. Such as learning a language besides ebonics and finishing filling out your wal-mart application. :facepalm

coin24
10-16-2012, 03:04 AM
OK, you've got even more basic concerns. Such as learning a language besides ebonics and finishing filling out your wal-mart application. :facepalm

Ride your high horse somewhere else f@ggot

Lebron23
10-16-2012, 03:16 AM
OK, you've got even more basic concerns. Such as learning a language besides ebonics and finishing filling out your wal-mart application. :facepalm


:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

SyRyanYang
10-16-2012, 05:33 AM
I was face-palming that I believe there's actually enough morons in this world that something so idiotic could happen.
Wow you're dumber than I thought mate. All star games are all about fun, if fans want to see him there, they vote for him, end of the story. This doesn't make any of them idiotic, it makes you sound like an idiot if anything.
:facepalm

maybeshewill13
10-16-2012, 05:39 AM
Wow you're dumber than I thought mate. All star games are all about fun, if fans want to see him there, they vote for him, end of the story. This doesn't make any of them idiotic, it makes you sound like an idiot if anything.
:facepalm

Why so mad? :rolleyes: There are much better, more exciting and interesting PGs in this league than Jeremy "few games" Lin to play in the all-star game. A guy who should be barely fighting for a spot (if it wasn't for him being a cash cow) should not even be mentioned in the same sentence as "all-star".

SyRyanYang
10-16-2012, 05:41 AM
Why so mad? :rolleyes:
On the contrary, I was trying to reason with you, not that it will work.

maybeshewill13
10-16-2012, 05:43 AM
On the contrary, I was trying to reason with you, not that it will work.

Read above and learn young one. Any more wisdom and I'll start charging you.

SyRyanYang
10-16-2012, 05:43 AM
Why so mad? :rolleyes: There are much better, more exciting and interesting PGs in this league than Jeremy "few games" Lin to play in the all-star game. A guy who should be barely fighting for a spot (if it wasn't for him being a cash cow) should not even be mentioned in the same sentence as "all-star".
That's your opinion. People are free to vote for whoever they think is interesting, exciting or whatever. Democracy, remember?

SyRyanYang
10-16-2012, 05:44 AM
Read above and learn young one. Any more wisdom and I'll start charging you.
Lol you edited after my quote. Who's mad now:kobe:

maybeshewill13
10-16-2012, 05:46 AM
Lol you edited after my quote. Who's mad now:kobe:
I edited before, but if that will help you sleep tonight, I'll pretend I did it out of anger for you :confusedshrug:

SyRyanYang
10-16-2012, 05:54 AM
I edited before, but if that will help you sleep tonight, I'll pretend I did it out of anger for you :confusedshrug:
Lol I don't care, whatever you say. But way to change the subject:applause:

maybeshewill13
10-16-2012, 05:58 AM
Lol I don't care, whatever you say. But way to change the subject:applause:

Sure pal, why do you keep coming back for my approval then? :sleeping

Kovach
10-16-2012, 10:00 AM
constructive, legit criticism
:lol

SevereUpInHere
10-16-2012, 11:28 AM
You cared enough to post a two paragraph rant. :D Get over it, your owner's an idiot and your two stars can't play together. The knicks will be always be mediocre as long as dolan's running the team.

The only reason why they have a chance of finishing over 500 is because they're an eastern conference team. If they played against WC teams, they'd be lucky to win 30 games. TRUTH.


Hardly a rant, but regardless. If he does well, good for him, it won't keep me up at night. If he stinks it up, whatever too. Our owner may suck, but he made the right call not paying $15m in the final year or Lin's contract. And I though that even before his recent performances.

Nice subject change there too, oh cool, tell me more about how the Knicks suck, the Rockets are sure to dominate this season. :rolleyes:

paintingshade
10-16-2012, 12:15 PM
Ok why the hell are people still saying Lin restructured the contract to leave? He never asked for a restructured contract. The Rockets rescinded their first offer and submitted a second one because it looked like the Knicks would match. Do you think it was Lin's idea to use a CBA loophole as a restricted free agent so NY wouldn't match? Absolutely not. And why wouldn't he sign a more lucrative second deal?

That being said, as a Rockets fan, I'm not very excited about Lin right now. I am excited about Asik though.

TheFan
10-16-2012, 12:18 PM
It probably never started in the first place... it happens every season... some guy at the end of a contract, Michael Jordan his way to a fat contract...

Remember when Vujacic was dropping 20s coming off the bench for the Lakers or when Ariza was getting Scottie Pippen comparisons?

bluechox2
10-16-2012, 12:42 PM
Ok why the hell are people still saying Lin restructured the contract to leave? He never asked for a restructured contract. The Rockets rescinded their first offer and submitted a second one because it looked like the Knicks would match. Do you think it was Lin's idea to use a CBA loophole as a restricted free agent so NY wouldn't match? Absolutely not. And why wouldn't he sign a more lucrative second deal?

That being said, as a Rockets fan, I'm not very excited about Lin right now. I am excited about Asik though.

the fact that lin was like .."only had one contract offered to me so i had to sign it" or "i wanted to retire as a knick, i definately though they would have matched even after this 2nd offer was given to me" ... dont act stupid... just man up to the whole situation by now... hes asian...should have known the knicks probably wouldnt keep him beyond year 2...hes done that maths...

DuMa
10-16-2012, 01:16 PM
GQ still believes in the Lingend!

http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/files/2012/10/2cover-441x600.jpg

bluechox2
10-16-2012, 01:18 PM
http://www.gq.com/images/sports/2012/11/jeremy-lin/jeremy-lin-article.jpg

plUto or bUst
10-16-2012, 04:12 PM
I love Lin but the hype is out of hand. Dude should be working on his jumpshot instead of doing GQ shoots and doing tours. :facepalm

DuMa
10-16-2012, 04:39 PM
I love Lin but the hype is out of hand. Dude should be working on his jumpshot instead of doing GQ shoots and doing tours. :facepalm

just becuase one does a GQ shoot doesnt mean hes not working on his jumpshot. :facepalm

westside_baller
10-16-2012, 04:44 PM
I love Lin but the hype is out of hand. Dude should be working on his jumpshot instead of doing GQ shoots and doing tours. :facepalm

How dat haterade taste, brah? :D

westside_baller
10-16-2012, 04:46 PM
Hardly a rant, but regardless. If he does well, good for him, it won't keep me up at night. If he stinks it up, whatever too. Our owner may suck, but he made the right call not paying $15m in the final year or Lin's contract. And I though that even before his recent performances.

Nice subject change there too, oh cool, tell me more about how the Knicks suck, the Rockets are sure to dominate this season. :rolleyes:

The Rockets have a bright future; unlike the knicks. And Dolan didn't make the right move with Lin--he was out-negotiated. Learn the difference.

niko
10-16-2012, 04:53 PM
just becuase one does a GQ shoot doesnt mean hes not working on his jumpshot. :facepalm

When was he? Before summer when he wasn't healthy enough? After the two day camp with the Knicks teammates where he left to go to the ESPY's instead of the Select Team like he was supposed to? His tour of Taiwan which was covered pillar to post where he visited different places every day? When he came back and said his knee isn't healthy enough? (It's funny, i bitched he ditched the Olympic team and was planning a trip to Taiwan, little did i know he wasn't our problem anyway.)

I'm sure Lin worked on his game, but he spent a lot of time brand building this offseason. I'm curious how this would have played in NY, because the rumbling from the Rocket fans is doubt about Lin's work ethic and toughness. Which is about 180 from what you'd expect, even if it's small rumblings.

DuMa
10-16-2012, 05:14 PM
When was he? Before summer when he wasn't healthy enough? After the two day camp with the Knicks teammates where he left to go to the ESPY's instead of the Select Team like he was supposed to? His tour of Taiwan which was covered pillar to post where he visited different places every day? When he came back and said his knee isn't healthy enough? (It's funny, i bitched he ditched the Olympic team and was planning a trip to Taiwan, little did i know he wasn't our problem anyway.)

I'm sure Lin worked on his game, but he spent a lot of time brand building this offseason. I'm curious how this would have played in NY, because the rumbling from the Rocket fans is doubt about Lin's work ethic and toughness. Which is about 180 from what you'd expect, even if it's small rumblings.

in the offseason, you wont really know what a player does or not until you see his resulting play in the regular season. so its stupid to judge him now for little shit like for missing Select Team practice when you dont know really if he was still healthy to play at the time. who knows what else he was doing in the offseason or what he wasnt doing. its not fair to judge him on that criteria when no one else is judged on that same criteria.

so to judge lin based on a couple preseason games is judging him unfairly at the moment.

niko
10-16-2012, 07:49 PM
in the offseason, you wont really know what a player does or not until you see his resulting play in the regular season. so its stupid to judge him now for little shit like for missing Select Team practice when you dont know really if he was still healthy to play at the time. who knows what else he was doing in the offseason or what he wasnt doing. its not fair to judge him on that criteria when no one else is judged on that same criteria.

so to judge lin based on a couple preseason games is judging him unfairly at the moment.
He spent a summer traveling and doing appearances. He spent weeks in Taiwan. He skipped the select team. He wasn't training hard all day every day, how could he? When?

BlitzForce
10-16-2012, 08:12 PM
He was training when he was travelling, plenty of videos showing that

But training and practising is not the same as playing NBA level games

DuMa
10-16-2012, 08:18 PM
He spent a summer traveling and doing appearances. He spent weeks in Taiwan. He skipped the select team. He wasn't training hard all day every day, how could he? When?

there is no wrong or right way to train in the offseason. however you want to judge it, theres no right or wrong way.

kmartshopper
10-17-2012, 12:44 AM
GQ still believes in the Lingend!

http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/files/2012/10/2cover-441x600.jpg

didn't know they made spandex suit pants

westside_baller
10-17-2012, 12:46 AM
Haters like you will twist anything around into a negative. That's what haters do. If he had stayed in palo alto and trained non-stop, haters like you would have claimed he was a recluse and was ignoring his int'l fans, implying he's arrogant and aloof.

The problem is your hatred and jealousy of someone who is successful on a scale you can't even fathom. Yet you attach yourself to him like a leech, criticizing him to get some attention you can't get from anything you've achieved yourself, since you have no talent and have achieved nothing. :D


When was he? Before summer when he wasn't healthy enough? After the two day camp with the Knicks teammates where he left to go to the ESPY's instead of the Select Team like he was supposed to? His tour of Taiwan which was covered pillar to post where he visited different places every day? When he came back and said his knee isn't healthy enough? (It's funny, i bitched he ditched the Olympic team and was planning a trip to Taiwan, little did i know he wasn't our problem anyway.)

I'm sure Lin worked on his game, but he spent a lot of time brand building this offseason. I'm curious how this would have played in NY, because the rumbling from the Rocket fans is doubt about Lin's work ethic and toughness. Which is about 180 from what you'd expect, even if it's small rumblings.

9512
10-17-2012, 10:23 AM
Why happened to "wait and see" instead of pretending to be experts and spell doom and gloom for Lin? :confusedshrug:

Lin is such a polarized figure on this forum.:roll:

nathanjizzle
10-17-2012, 10:37 AM
we can judge him tonight.

niko
10-17-2012, 10:51 AM
If he was a Knick the fact he took did the Linsanity worldwide branding tour wouldn't be seen as training. Let's be real. And don't give me "YOU ARE JUST SAYING THIS BECAUSE HE LEFT", i was saying the same thing when he left the Select team and was on the ESPY's with Tebow.

Who rehabs an injury and trains by traveling the world and doing commercials?

plUto or bUst
10-17-2012, 11:03 AM
IMO he should have played a full season and established himself before doing the branding thing. But then again it maybe he'll be more focused this season by getting all that stuff out of the way in the offseason. We'll see how it plays out but I'm expecting Lin to establish himself as a solid point guard this season with the potential to get to all star level in a few more seasons.

stevieming
10-17-2012, 11:16 AM
Jeremy will get better.

Niko is full of hate though....

I predict Jeremy's stats to be half way through the season:

15 PPG
7 Assists
4 Rebounds
2 Steals

Then it'll drop off, as I don't think he can maintain the long season

11ppg
6 assist
3 rebounds
1 steal

niko
10-17-2012, 11:48 AM
I'm not hating, i'm being honest. And i was complaining when i thought he was coming back. He has too many distractions and he doesn't see a need to trim them down. Again, he spent the whole offseason traveling, and then came back to Houston and said he doesn't feel 100%. If he was the Knicks starting PG and did that i'd be annoyed.

bagelred
10-17-2012, 01:05 PM
His knee is still heaLIN

red1
10-17-2012, 01:09 PM
:no: we're still on this? super mario gawdmers ended linsanity way back in february

stevieming
10-17-2012, 01:15 PM
Ficking hate chalmers. Cocky mofo...he wouldn't be anything on another team, wade and bron made him. :mad:

Although I have to acknowledge his big cojones for wanting and making big shots. :applause:

L.A. Jazz
10-17-2012, 01:17 PM
i wouldnt even know about him if he had played for the Rockets all the time.

nathanjizzle
10-17-2012, 09:05 PM
lin thinks hes derrick rose:facepalm

BlitzForce
10-17-2012, 10:46 PM
Lin played pretty well today, he's getting it back,

there are going to be a lot of crow eaters once the season starts :dancin

nathanjizzle
10-17-2012, 10:48 PM
12 assists?

BlitzForce
10-17-2012, 10:51 PM
12 assists?

6pts(3/7) 12ast 5reb 3st 1to

Just had a good all round game except for the jump shots. He just controls the flow of the game.

Had 2 shots hit, a 3 and jumper that were not counted because of a Asik moving screen.
So he could have had a double double

Most importantly they beat a playoff team with a tanking team :basketball

BlitzForce
10-17-2012, 11:14 PM
edit - correct line

27 mins, 7 points (3/9 fga, 0/2 ft) 12 assists, 5 rebounds, 4 steals, 1 TO (ball bounced off Asik's foot)

1 miss was a hack across the arm, with no call

spiegel
10-18-2012, 03:40 AM
6pts(3/7) 12ast 5reb 3st 1to

Just had a good all round game except for the jump shots. He just controls the flow of the game.

Had 2 shots hit, a 3 and jumper that were not counted because of a Asik moving screen.
So he could have had a double double

Most importantly they beat a playoff team with a tanking team :basketball
The reason or the main reasons we won were Martin who is in spectacular form and Patrrick Patterson. Lin wasnt all that good . Stop exagerrating

BlitzForce
10-18-2012, 03:44 AM
The reason or the main reasons we won were Martin who is in spectacular form and Patrrick Patterson. Lin wasnt all that good . Stop exagerrating

So who the da fark passed them the ball? :biggums:

:facepalm

spiegel
10-18-2012, 03:56 AM
Typical stat junkie. I suggest you start watching these games. Martins 12 first quarter points and pats second quarter along with Douglas and Delfinos 4th quarters were more instrumental. Out of Martins 12 points 1 of those assists were from lin. out of pats points only 2 or 3 at most from Lin.

Lin was 3-9 and 0-3 from the pt line.He had an airball in all of that as well. Did he play better then his first few games? by gorge he did, but he was'nt the reason or the only reason. Will he improve? Probaly he will because he cant be this bad after his showing in NY unless it was a fluke.

spiegel
10-18-2012, 04:01 AM
[QUOTE=stevieming]Jeremy will get better.

Niko is full of hate though....

I predict Jeremy's stats to be half way through the season:

15 PPG
7 Assists
4 Rebounds
2 Steals

That sounds about right.I could see him maybe even averaging 8 assists or more.

BlitzForce
10-18-2012, 04:03 AM
Typical stat junkie. I suggest you start watching these games. Martins 12 first quarter points and pats second quarter along with Douglas and Delfinos 4th quarters were more instrumental. Out of Martins 12 points 1 of those assists were from lin. out of pats points only 2 or 3 at most frokm Lin.

I watched most of the game. Lin made good passes, a lot of them leading to the guys being open all alone or in a good position to score

So the 4 steals and the other disruptions Lin caused doesn't help?
C'mon man, BBall is a lot more than scoring!

If Lin did not run the offence, the results would be very different.
I can see Martin jacking it up and shooting them out of the game - see Dallas game....

Clippersfan86
10-18-2012, 04:03 AM
It's sad how people embrace something so much one minute and turn on that thing the next. Saw it big time with Griffin last year now people are turning on Lin. Not only is he a great guy it seems but a hard worker who will still be a very good PG for years to come. Without Mike D'Antoni coaching him and letting him run the team with that freedom he will probably never put up those 25, 10 type games again but he can absolutely be a nice 15/7 and 3-4 type of player and a borderline all star.

spiegel
10-18-2012, 04:16 AM
I watched most of the game. Lin made good passes, a lot of them leading to the guys being open all alone or in a good position to score

So the 4 steals and the other disruptions Lin caused doesn't help?
C'mon man, BBall is a lot more than scoring!

If Lin did not run the offence, the results would be very different.
I can see Martin jacking it up and shooting them out of the game - see Dallas game....
He played ok, but he wasnt the main reason the team won. His defense was alot better as was his distribution. His turnovers was low and he did a good job. However he is nowhere near what we expected he will be. Maybe as the season rolls he will get there.

BlitzForce
10-18-2012, 04:33 AM
He played ok, but he wasnt the main reason the team won. His defense was alot better as was his distribution. His turnovers was low and he did a good job. However he is nowhere near what we expected he will be. Maybe as the season rolls he will get there.

During the Linsanity run, he did not shoot well every game either. But he ran the offense controlled the tempo and pulled off the win with clutch plays.

SyRyanYang
10-18-2012, 04:38 AM
It's sad how people embrace something so much one minute and turn on that thing the next. Saw it big time with Griffin last year now people are turning on Lin. Not only is he a great guy it seems but a hard worker who will still be a very good PG for years to come. Without Mike D'Antoni coaching him and letting him run the team with that freedom he will probably never put up those 25, 10 type games again but he can absolutely be a nice 15/7 and 3-4 type of player and a borderline all star.
For the first time ever, I agree with you 100%

Legends66NBA7
10-18-2012, 04:40 AM
It's sad how people embrace something so much one minute and turn on that thing the next. Saw it big time with Griffin last year now people are turning on Lin. Not only is he a great guy it seems but a hard worker who will still be a very good PG for years to come. Without Mike D'Antoni coaching him and letting him run the team with that freedom he will probably never put up those 25, 10 type games again but he can absolutely be a nice 15/7 and 3-4 type of player and a borderline all star.

I never bought the hype, but I like what he can bring to a team either as a starter or of the bench. I just don't like how overrated he got and besides Griffin has much more potential than Lin does.

Clippersfan86
10-18-2012, 05:14 AM
I never bought the hype, but I like what he can bring to a team either as a starter or of the bench. I just don't like how overrated he got and besides Griffin has much more potential than Lin does.

Thing is... how can you NOT like the hype? This was a guy who came out of NOWHERE literally and tore the league apart for a decent stretch. A nerdy Asian kid who went to Harvard at that. It's a feel good story and there is no such thing as a 20 game fluke IMO. I think with the right coach, team around him he COULD potentially become an all star but worse case should be a good starter for years to come.

I think the only ones that truly overrated him were Knicks fans when they acted like he was an elite player or something but most people were just excited as hell about the streak. Ironically it's Knicks fans now who tear him up the most and act like he's garbage.

AK47DR91
10-18-2012, 06:08 AM
Thing is... how can you NOT like the hype? This was a guy who came out of NOWHERE literally and tore the league apart for a decent stretch. A nerdy Asian kid who went to Harvard at that. It's a feel good story and there is no such thing as a 20 game fluke IMO. I think with the right coach, team around him he COULD potentially become an all star but worse case should be a good starter for years to come.

I think the only ones that truly overrated him were Knicks fans when they acted like he was an elite player or something but most people were just excited as hell about the streak. Ironically it's Knicks fans now who tear him up the most and act like he's garbage.
I agree with you about the hype. I don't think a lot of people really understand that it wasn't even about basketball; maybe 20% of it was. But the Linsanity was pushed so high because of all the stories behind it.

You got a new "Big 3" team struggling (7 games under .500) and can't seen to find their PG to run the offense. Out of nowhere, here comes some Harvard grad Asian kid who is a Jesus freak. The kid's been cut, like what, 3 times during the offseason?

Seriously, you can't write this shit. Hollywood would have NEVER thought of this. New York Times best sellers wouldn't have either. It was a really good-feel story.

BlitzForce
10-18-2012, 07:53 AM
Lin's highlights from today
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ5oFtPXyck

niko
10-18-2012, 08:36 AM
He looked good. He needs to learn to play more where he is setting up the offense, not initiating every play on the offense. He plays like Marbury (stylewise, clearly he's not so selfish), if you are on the floor with him he will score, or you can score off his pass. If you are a post player, or a player who can iso, etc. he doesn't know how to get you the ball. If there young players become stars, he's going to have to learn to feed them the ball at times to let them create, or else you turn players into stand up shooters. Like Deron, he can do both easily.

Right now all offense is ran through Lin, which worked great on the Knicks when everyone was hurt, much less so when everyone was back. It's a progression he needs to learn but with a young Rockets team he might not be called on to do so.

:rant C'mon - HATER HATER! HE'S PERFECT!

niko
10-18-2012, 08:37 AM
Thing is... how can you NOT like the hype? This was a guy who came out of NOWHERE literally and tore the league apart for a decent stretch. A nerdy Asian kid who went to Harvard at that. It's a feel good story and there is no such thing as a 20 game fluke IMO. I think with the right coach, team around him he COULD potentially become an all star but worse case should be a good starter for years to come.

I think the only ones that truly overrated him were Knicks fans when they acted like he was an elite player or something but most people were just excited as hell about the streak. Ironically it's Knicks fans now who tear him up the most and act like he's garbage.

You're full of it, the whole board hated on Lin before. Now he's not a Knick so the haters want to embrace him and call out Knick fans for it. He was overrated / underrated by practically everyone on the board.

BlitzForce
10-18-2012, 08:46 AM
He looked good. He needs to learn to play more where he is setting up the offense, not initiating every play on the offense. He plays like Marbury (stylewise, clearly he's not so selfish), if you are on the floor with him he will score, or you can score off his pass. If you are a post player, or a player who can iso, etc. he doesn't know how to get you the ball. If there young players become stars, he's going to have to learn to feed them the ball at times to let them create, or else you turn players into stand up shooters. Like Deron, he can do both easily.

Right now all offense is ran through Lin, which worked great on the Knicks when everyone was hurt, much less so when everyone was back. It's a progression he needs to learn but with a young Rockets team he might not be called on to do so.

:rant C'mon - HATER HATER! HE'S PERFECT!

Don't really agree, so far, he is feeding the Rocket's bigs with post ups and inside play. He just tries to find the best shot in any given situation

But it's not so much him, but how Mchale wants the offense. He wants the ball to move fast

niko
10-18-2012, 09:07 AM
Don't really agree, so far, he is feeding the Rocket's bigs with post ups and inside play. He just tries to find the best shot in any given situation

But it's not so much him, but how Mchale wants the offense. He wants the ball to move fast
I guess you didn't watch him play at all last year then. You talk about him like you saw every minute he ever played.

InfiniteBaskets
10-18-2012, 10:23 AM
From what I saw of Asik in the highlights, it seems the dude still has trouble staying on the court due to foul trouble (same issue came up when he was playing for the Bulls but in less minutes). The Rockets are going to be in trouble if Asik is not in the game due to either foul trouble or injury.

Clippersfan86
10-18-2012, 01:40 PM
You're full of it, the whole board hated on Lin before. Now he's not a Knick so the haters want to embrace him and call out Knick fans for it. He was overrated / underrated by practically everyone on the board.

What the...??? We had like 7 Lin threads a day with most of the board pulling for him as did the media and general fans across the nation. Sure you had a good sized group of those "It's a fluke" people but I wasn't one of them.

niko
10-18-2012, 01:44 PM
What the...??? We had like 7 Lin threads a day with most of the board pulling for him as did the media and general fans across the nation. Sure you had a good sized group of those "It's a fluke" people but I wasn't one of them.
i know you weren't, but you basically called out Knick fans for being delusional ONLY on Lin. Read your post. Everyone hated on him. Now it's "he's great, why aren't knick fans more upset?"

BlitzForce
10-18-2012, 01:44 PM
I guess you didn't watch him play at all last year then. You talk about him like you saw every minute he ever played.

I'm talking about this year, on the Rockets.....
Whatever happened last year is irrelevant.

niko
10-18-2012, 01:48 PM
I'm talking about this year, on the Rockets.....
Whatever happened last year is irrelevant.
No, it's not. That's ****ing asinine. These are preseason games, he's not totally healthy, and it's a new system. Basing your opinion of a player based on preseason (3 games) and saying to ignore his career prior is about as stupid a thing as i have ever heard.

You are telling me we should discuss Lin but not his Knick time. :facepalm

kNIOKAS
10-18-2012, 01:49 PM
I saw glimpses of Rockets playing Grizzlies today, and Lin was in the middle of everything. Looked quite good. He was literary on. Dominated the ball a la LaBran, and was active on defense also. I think Lin is a good player, why not.

9512
10-19-2012, 05:32 AM
Lin's highlights from today
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ5oFtPXyck

12 assists :cheers:

Mike Conley is good at steals but Lin only limited his TOs to 2.

spiegel
10-19-2012, 05:51 AM
What the...??? We had like 7 Lin threads a day with most of the board pulling for him as did the media and general fans across the nation. Sure you had a good sized group of those "It's a fluke" people but I wasn't one of them.
How can you have over 22,000 posts since january 2011? thats insane. How many is that a day?

BlitzForce
10-19-2012, 08:12 AM
12 assists :cheers:

Mike Conley is good at steals but Lin only limited his TOs to 2.

And they weren't due to Conley either

One was because Lin bounced the ball onto Asik's foot when he stuck it out as Lin was rounding the screen.
And the other he got hacked on the wrist by Bayless on a shot, no call, so it was counted as a turnover.....

Although he did throw a near turnover, but a teammate got the ball back when it was partially intercepted.

Spell&Grammar
10-19-2012, 08:14 AM
How can you have over 22,000 posts since january 2011? thats insane. How many is that a day?


According to my calculation, that's approximately 34.8 posts a day.




Math&Algebra

stevieming
10-19-2012, 09:29 AM
Thing about Jeremy he is very up and down in terms of his production. When he sucks, he's really bad, but when he's good, he's like the next Asian Jordan!(considering there are no other oriental guards that are starters in the NBA, I can be excused for that comparison)

Niko is right about one thing, he seems to have to generate the offense every time.

One other thing, I wish he didn't tell the whole league that he is still recovering from that knee op, and his speed, explosion are all lacking...:facepalm

yeah I know it's to ease the pressure on himself in some ways, but the thing is I am convinced every PG in the league will want to carve him up because of the media attention and that contract he's got. And the fact that he owned up to his knee isn't 100%, they're going to go at him harder.

Unless it's a bluff like in tennis, where Novak pretends he's injured and then starts running like a jack rabbit as quoted by the great Roger Federer. :roll:

niko
10-19-2012, 09:55 AM
Thing about Jeremy he is very up and down in terms of his production. When he sucks, he's really bad, but when he's good, he's like the next Asian Jordan!(considering there are no other oriental guards that are starters in the NBA, I can be excused for that comparison)

Niko is right about one thing, he seems to have to generate the offense every time.

One other thing, I wish he didn't tell the whole league that he is still recovering from that knee op, and his speed, explosion are all lacking...:facepalm

yeah I know it's to ease the pressure on himself in some ways, but the thing is I am convinced every PG in the league will want to carve him up because of the media attention and that contract he's got. And the fact that he owned up to his knee isn't 100%, they're going to go at him harder.

Unless it's a bluff like in tennis, where Novak pretends he's injured and then starts running like a jack rabbit as quoted by the great Roger Federer. :roll:

I said this when he was on the Knicks too, he's going to have to learn to play sometimes where he sets up the offense for a post up guy, etc. and backs off. It will enable him to do less and save his body and it will give the team more upside. Even at his best he's not good to a level you want him with the ball in his hand every moment, he's not Lebron. His fans take this as a huge insult.

IGOTGAME
10-19-2012, 10:27 AM
I said this when he was on the Knicks too, he's going to have to learn to play sometimes where he sets up the offense for a post up guy, etc. and backs off. It will enable him to do less and save his body and it will give the team more upside. Even at his best he's not good to a level you want him with the ball in his hand every moment, he's not Lebron. His fans take this as a huge insult.

seems like everyone takes this as a huge insult. You can't win with Jeremy Lin playing THAT ball dominant. It is a dead end. Weird thing is that he doesn't seem to be able to play any other way. With that said, I wouldn't want him starting for my team.

plUto or bUst
10-19-2012, 10:44 AM
seems like everyone takes this as a huge insult. You can't win with Jeremy Lin playing THAT ball dominant. It is a dead end. Weird thing is that he doesn't seem to be able to play any other way. With that said, I wouldn't want him starting for my team.

That depends on what other options you have at point guard. I don't think there are 20 point guards in the league you can say are definitely better than Lin. But when your point guard is Steve Nash, then it is a no brainer.

The comment about Lin being ball dominant... Steve Nash has never won anything being ball dominant, and he had a much better team than Lin. Your comment says more about the ability of ball dominant point guards to win championships as the number one option, than it says anything about Lin as a player.

niko
10-19-2012, 10:45 AM
seems like everyone takes this as a huge insult. You can't win with Jeremy Lin playing THAT ball dominant. It is a dead end. Weird thing is that he doesn't seem to be able to play any other way. With that said, I wouldn't want him starting for my team.

Everyone wanted Melo to adjust to him, and that was false. Yes, Melo need to adjust. **** yes. BUT They needed to adjust to each other. He was going to turn Melo into basically a spot up shooter. That's not optimizing talent. Plus it made him have to do so much that ultimately he broke down. I mean we asked him to do a lot. 40+ minutes, defend, have the ball at all times, drive and take hits.

IGOTGAME
10-19-2012, 11:27 AM
That depends on what other options you have at point guard. I don't think there are 20 point guards in the league you can say are definitely better than Lin. But when your point guard is Steve Nash, then it is a no brainer.

The comment about Lin being ball dominant... Steve Nash has never won anything being ball dominant, and he had a much better team than Lin. Your comment says more about the ability of ball dominant point guards to win championships as the number one option, than it says anything about Lin as a player.

I would take a pg with lesser numbers that fit a role that could be conducive to winning a championship. I do think there are over 20 pgs better than Lin. Especially whether you consider there ability to git into team concepts.

I'd take Mario Chalmers and Eric Bledsoe over lin easily.

InfiniteBaskets
10-19-2012, 11:36 AM
I would take a pg with lesser numbers that fit a role that could be conducive to winning a championship. I do think there are over 20 pgs better than Lin. Especially whether you consider there ability to git into team concepts.

I'd take Mario Chalmers and Eric Bledsoe over lin easily.

I'd swap Lin for Mario Chalmers as a Heat fan, as long as it meant salaries wouldn't be an issue.

You think Lin wouln't be able to adapt to the fact that Dwyane Wade and LeBron James are going to handling the ball and creating? Lin has enough basketball IQ to recognize that they're better at creating a high percentage play than he is.

On the other end Lin actually takes charges a lot better than Chalmers (who takes little to none), and he does a good job playing scrappy, which reminds me of Chalmers as a rookie.

IGOTGAME
10-19-2012, 11:55 AM
I'd swap Lin for Mario Chalmers as a Heat fan, as long as it meant salaries wouldn't be an issue.

You think Lin wouln't be able to adapt to the fact that Dwyane Wade and LeBron James are going to handling the ball and creating? Lin has enough basketball IQ to recognize that they're better at creating a high percentage play than he is.

On the other end Lin actually takes charges a lot better than Chalmers (who takes little to none), and he does a good job playing scrappy, which reminds me of Chalmers as a rookie.
I don't thin Lin is a particularly smart pg. He would not thrive playing with LeBron. He would serve no purpose on that team.

he doesn't have the skills to play off those guys.

plUto or bUst
10-19-2012, 11:59 AM
I would take a pg with lesser numbers that fit a role that could be conducive to winning a championship. I do think there are over 20 pgs better than Lin. Especially whether you consider there ability to git into team concepts.

I'd take Mario Chalmers and Eric Bledsoe over lin easily.

That's where you and me differ. I take the PG who I think is better skilled every single time. The better skilled PG could probably adjust his game to gel into a championship team better than a lesser skilled PG can. There is no evidence that Lin wouldn't be able to adjust his game. He played pretty well with both Amare and Carmelo under Woodson.

The argument you bring is situational, not of one that has bearing on who is the better point guard. Mario Chalmers excelled in a 4th or 5th banana role, and Bledsoe may be a decent energy guy off the bench, but would you take them to run your team? Would you take them over guys like Lowry, Lawson, or Rubio, who understand how to run a team, but probably wouldn't play as well as in a non-starter role, or a non-ball handling role?

Maybe I can understand Chalmers over Lin, especially since he excelled in his (limited) role. But I don't see how anyone can argue for a guy like Bledsoe. To me, that's just being a hater. What has Bledsoe done to show he is "easily" better than Lin?

Grey Dawn
10-19-2012, 12:02 PM
Linsanity was over half way into Linsanity.

It only got so stupidly far because of the Asian factor and all the $$$ and rating/magazine purchases, etc. that meant for everyone.

IGOTGAME
10-19-2012, 12:05 PM
That's where you and me differ. I take the PG who I think is better skilled every single time. The better skilled PG could probably adjust his game to gel into a championship team better than a lesser skilled PG can. There is no evidence that Lin wouldn't be able to adjust his game. He played pretty well with both Amare and Carmelo under Woodson.

The argument you bring is situational, not of one that has bearing on who is the better point guard. Mario Chalmers excelled in a 4th or 5th banana role, and Bledsoe may be a decent energy guy off the bench, but would you take them to run your team? Would you take them over guys like Lowry, Lawson, or Rubio, who understand how to run a team, but probably wouldn't play as well as in a non-starter role, or a non-ball handling role?

Maybe I can understand Chalmers over Lin, especially since he excelled in his (limited) role. But I don't see how anyone can argue for a guy like Bledsoe. To me, that's just being a hater. What has Bledsoe done to show he is "easily" better than Lin?

we are too far apart on thism I don't think Lin is a smart player. He is reckless and only thrives playing one way. He is also a reckless defender and oftentimes lazy. Unlike many I think he is a good athlete but plays mostly off instinct and doesn't understand how to run a t
team. He is out there playing checkers and not managing games.
my pick of Bledsoe is because he plays elite defense and is competant in other areas. It also has to do with the fact that I don't think you can win playing the way Pin has to play. Imo he really is very similar to Ramon Sessions.

BlitzForce
10-19-2012, 01:56 PM
"I don't think you can win playing the way Lin has to play"

:facepalm

All he does is LIN! :dancin

Rekindled
10-19-2012, 02:17 PM
we are too far apart on thism I don't think Lin is a smart player. He is reckless and only thrives playing one way. He is also a reckless defender and oftentimes lazy. Unlike many I think he is a good athlete but plays mostly off instinct and doesn't understand how to run a t
team. He is out there playing checkers and not managing games.
my pick of Bledsoe is because he plays elite defense and is competant in other areas. It also has to do with the fact that I don't think you can win playing the way Pin has to play. Imo he really is very similar to Ramon Sessions.

da faq. lin is already better than sessions ever was . and lin is basicly still a rookie (played fewer than 30 games)

InfiniteBaskets
10-19-2012, 03:11 PM
I don't thin Lin is a particularly smart pg. He would not thrive playing with LeBron. He would serve no purpose on that team.

he doesn't have the skills to play off those guys.

It doesn't take a great PG to play off of LeBron and Wade. Chris Quinn could play off of LBJ and Wade.

And I would have to disagree with your assertion of Lin not being a smart PG. How are you defining smart in this case? The ability to make good decisions with the basketball?

I actually think Lin is smarter than most PG's with the basketball with the exception of guys like Nash, Kidd, CP3, Rondo.. the obvious elite guys. But I'd say Lin is a smarter distributor than Westbrook. The difference is Lin doesn't excel athletically, so he can't always get to where he needs to be in order to make a play.

Lin's instinct is usually to beat his man off the pick and roll, or off the dribble and draw in a big defender so that he can dump it off to his own center or power forward. He runs into problems when he plays athletic defenses that are able to shut him down because he's not quick enough and can't jump high enough to force the defense to commit.

IGOTGAME
10-19-2012, 04:48 PM
It doesn't take a great PG to play off of LeBron and Wade. Chris Quinn could play off of LBJ and Wade.

I don't watch much of Chris Quinn but I remember him being a shooter. Apples and Oranges. Regardless, I wouldn't want him starting either.



And I would have to disagree with your assertion of Lin not being a smart PG. How are you defining smart in this case? The ability to make good decisions with the basketball?

ability to run a basketball and fit into the teams gameplan to optimize the talent available. Lin can only run one type of offense. When he doesn't he struggles and you hear "they are misusing him etc."


I actually think Lin is smarter than most PG's with the basketball with the exception of guys like Nash, Kidd, CP3, Rondo.. the obvious elite guys. But I'd say Lin is a smarter distributor than Westbrook. The difference is Lin doesn't excel athletically, so he can't always get to where he needs to be in order to make a play.

Lin's instinct is usually to beat his man off the pick and roll, or off the dribble and draw in a big defender so that he can dump it off to his own center or power forward. He runs into problems when he plays athletic defenses that are able to shut him down because he's not quick enough and can't jump high enough to force the defense to commit.[/QUOTE]

you don't have to be a smart pg to be smarter than Westbrook. However, I can name 40 pgs smarter than Jermey Lin. At best he is average. He doesn't manage games, he doesn't know when to get certain players the ball and how to put them in the best spots to succeed. He simply runs his pick and roll to the best of his ability. Being a point guard is about much more than that. And it isn't just those guys you mentioned. He reminds me of Ramon Sessions because they have the same exact strengths and weaknesses. This can be seen especially here.


As far as when Lin runs into trouble. It has nothing to do with athletes. It has to do with disciplined defenses that stick to their principals. Lin often jumps into the air pass or recklessly drives into situations hoping for something good to happen. When the defenses are sound these situations produce turnovers for most players.

As far as Lin's athletism. I would actually rank him well above average in the category. He is one of the most athletic pgs in the entire league. This is what bothers me the most. Don't underrate his athleticism and than overrate his intelligence.

It has nothing to do with not being fast enough or jumping high enough in the pick and roll. Andre Miller, Mark Jackson, Rick Rubio, old Nash all run that play against all types of athletes. It has to do with decision making and fundamentally sound play. That is where Lin lacks. He is reckless and a poor game manager. These are not traits you want in a starting pg. If you have to deal with them then he better be at top player in the league.

westside_baller
10-22-2012, 03:22 AM
LMAO! Here's a neg rep I received. :oldlol:

"cry more gook"

madmax17
10-22-2012, 07:10 AM
He'd better be good, I have Lin on my fantasy team.

BlitzForce
10-22-2012, 07:13 AM
He'd better be good, I have Lin on my fantasy team.

You'll get assists and steals for sure...

RRR3
10-25-2012, 03:38 AM
Jesus he's been stinkin' up the joint :facepalm

1-8 today, 2 points :facepalm

Look it's just preseason but DAMN look at these stats:

20 minutes, 1-3 (0-2 from 3), 3 points, 1 rebound, 6 assists, 3 steals, 3 turnovers
23 minutes, 2-6, 9 pts, 1 reb, 7 assists, 2 steals, 2 TO's
25 minutes, 1-10 (0-3), 4 pts, 1 reb, 1 ast, 1 stl, 2 TO's
31 minutes, 3-9 (0-3), 7 pts, 5 reb, 12 ast, 4 stl, 2 TO's
31 minutes, 1-8 (0-1), 2 pts, 3 reb, 5 ast, 2 stl, 6 TO's



Averages: 26.0 MPG, 5.0 PPG, 2.2 RPG, 6.2 APG, 2.4 SPG, 3.0 TO, .222 FG%, .000 3P% (0-9), .600 FT%



:roll: :facepalm

RRR3
10-25-2012, 03:45 AM
Chalmers>Lin

Legends66NBA7
10-25-2012, 04:13 AM
Though I hate is hype, maybe he can still becoming promising starter in this league.

Off course, his preseason stats won't mean much, but he has to bring it in the regular season. He's got his work cut out for him.

RRR3
10-25-2012, 04:16 AM
Preseason stats don't mean much, but he's been disconcertingly bad IMO.

Legends66NBA7
10-25-2012, 04:22 AM
Preseason stats don't mean much, but he's been disconcertingly bad IMO.

Being on what looks like will be a bad team doesn't help things either, especially sine your not that proven of player.

Although, I'd hope he proves me wrong.

WockaVodka
10-25-2012, 04:27 AM
Being on what looks like will be a bad team doesn't help things either, especially sine your not that proven of player.

Although, I'd hope he proves me wrong.
I asked you this a while ago, but what do you do for a living? You seem to be on here constantly.

BlitzForce
10-25-2012, 04:55 AM
And yet when he's played, they are 4-1
And 3rd highest offense rating so far of all the teams

His defence was very good today as well
Actually Rockets team defense as a whole was very good.

maybeshewill13
10-25-2012, 05:16 AM
Jesus he's been stinkin' up the joint :facepalm

1-8 today, 2 points :facepalm

Look it's just preseason but DAMN look at these stats:

20 minutes, 1-3 (0-2 from 3), 3 points, 1 rebound, 6 assists, 3 steals, 3 turnovers
23 minutes, 2-6, 9 pts, 1 reb, 7 assists, 2 steals, 2 TO's
25 minutes, 1-10 (0-3), 4 pts, 1 reb, 1 ast, 1 stl, 2 TO's
31 minutes, 3-9 (0-3), 7 pts, 5 reb, 12 ast, 4 stl, 2 TO's
31 minutes, 1-8 (0-1), 2 pts, 3 reb, 5 ast, 2 stl, 6 TO's

Averages: 26.0 MPG, 5.0 PPG, 2.2 RPG, 6.2 APG, 2.4 SPG, 3.0 TO, .222 FG%, .000 3P% (0-9), .600 FT%



:roll: :facepalm

Lin the all-star :bowdown:

Most overrated player in the league BY FAR.

Chapallaz
10-25-2012, 05:28 AM
Remember Mike James '06.

shoops
10-25-2012, 05:30 AM
Lin the all-star :bowdown:

Most overrated player in the league BY FAR.
:durantunimpressed: Overrated? I don't see anybody saying he's as good as cp3, drose, wb, etc...

The hate is strong in you, brah. :no: Asg is about popularity... people will vote for who they wanna see. Why make such a fuss over it? The elite guards in the league can pretty much get in any other time they want.

RRR3
10-25-2012, 05:34 AM
Lin the all-star :bowdown:

Most overrated player in the league BY FAR.
He's been scrubtacular.

Legends66NBA7
10-25-2012, 05:36 AM
Remember Mike James '06.

Heh, one of the few bright spots in an awful year for the Raptors.

I can't definitely see the same scenario play out for Lin. Although, he won't have prime KG to play next too.

RRR3
10-25-2012, 05:37 AM
Mike James that year: 20/3/6/1/0 on 47/44/84 :bowdown:

millwad
10-25-2012, 05:39 AM
I asked you this a while ago, but what do you do for a living? You seem to be on here constantly.

Haha, do you have RRR3's permission to use his pic as your avatar?

maybeshewill13
10-25-2012, 05:52 AM
:durantunimpressed: Overrated? I don't see anybody saying he's as good as cp3, drose, wb, etc...

The hate is strong in you, brah. :no: Asg is about popularity... people will vote for who they wanna see. Why make such a fuss over it? The elite guards in the league can pretty much get in any other time they want.

LOL the only reason he's popular is because he's asian.. he's not exciting in the slightest and is leagues behind pretty much every point guard in the west. Why would anyone want to see him in the all star game? Because he's asian? :facepalm

millwad
10-25-2012, 05:59 AM
I'm so butthurt over the fact that the Rockets said bye bye to two great pointguards like Lowry and Dragic. Lowry has had a good preseason this far while averaging 15 points, 4 rebounds and almost 6 assists and this is Lowry coming back from a long time of not playing games due him getting sick last season.

Dragic has still not got that much playing time but I guess it will come but he had a good pre-season as well, 8.5 points per game on 51% shooting while dishing out 5 assists.

Jeremy Lin had a terrible pre-season, 5 points per game on 22% shooting. Sure, his assists looks good and so does his steals but again the turnovers..

This shit just doesn't make any sense..

shoops
10-25-2012, 06:07 AM
LOL the only reason he's popular is because he's asian.. he's not exciting in the slightest and is leagues behind pretty much every point guard in the west. Why would anyone want to see him in the all star game? Because he's asian? :facepalm
Lol did you miss out on the story or something? Sure being Asian is one of the factors, but how about being undrafted, overlooked as a scrub and coming out of frigging Harvard blah blah blah? The whole success story is reason enough to be popular, even if he's no chris paul. And as much as it might sound like a cop out, everyone's definition of exciting is different. :confusedshrug: Anyways, there's plenty of good pgs in the west, true, but that also means popularity will be pretty divided unless there's some other compelling factor, which Lin has.

Chapallaz
10-25-2012, 06:10 AM
I'm so butthurt over the fact that the Rockets said bye bye to two great pointguards like Lowry and Dragic. Lowry has had a good preseason this far while averaging 15 points, 4 rebounds and almost 6 assists and this is Lowry coming back from a long time of not playing games due him getting sick last season.

Dragic has still not got that much playing time but I guess it will come but he had a good pre-season as well, 8.5 points per game on 51% shooting while dishing out 5 assists.

Jeremy Lin had a terrible pre-season, 5 points per game on 22% shooting. Sure, his assists looks good and so does his steals but again the turnovers..

This shit just doesn't make any sense..

+ Amnesty your most steady, useful and decent player in Scola.

pnyozzzoo
10-25-2012, 06:47 AM
Why would anyone want to see him in the all star game? Because he's asian? :facepalm

I think you got it right. It's pretty similar to lots African American who never cared about voting before jump on Obama's boat so fast. You know kinda breaking stereotype thing.

And I assure you that there are a lot of butthurting white people out there too.

Its the connection, you don't feel it, many others do. You can ignore it, try to understand it or butthurt about it.

maybeshewill13
10-25-2012, 07:16 AM
I think you got it right. It's pretty similar to lots African American who never cared about voting before jump on Obama's boat so fast. You know kinda breaking stereotype thing.


Yep, you don't see me going and voting for Andrew Bogut for all-star game because I'm Australian. Pathetic. Vote for the players that deserve it, not one that has the same skin/eye color/religious beliefs/whatever as you..

Clutch
10-25-2012, 07:41 AM
Jesus he's been stinkin' up the joint :facepalm

1-8 today, 2 points :facepalm

Look it's just preseason but DAMN look at these stats:

20 minutes, 1-3 (0-2 from 3), 3 points, 1 rebound, 6 assists, 3 steals, 3 turnovers
23 minutes, 2-6, 9 pts, 1 reb, 7 assists, 2 steals, 2 TO's
25 minutes, 1-10 (0-3), 4 pts, 1 reb, 1 ast, 1 stl, 2 TO's
31 minutes, 3-9 (0-3), 7 pts, 5 reb, 12 ast, 4 stl, 2 TO's
31 minutes, 1-8 (0-1), 2 pts, 3 reb, 5 ast, 2 stl, 6 TO's



Averages: 26.0 MPG, 5.0 PPG, 2.2 RPG, 6.2 APG, 2.4 SPG, 3.0 TO, .222 FG%, .000 3P% (0-9), .600 FT%



:roll: :facepalm
Makes Melo look efficient :roll: :roll: :roll:

RRR3
10-25-2012, 07:46 AM
Makes Melo look efficient :roll: :roll: :roll:
Yeah and at least Melo puts up a high volume of points while being inefficient. Lin is averaging 5 PPG

9512
10-25-2012, 07:54 AM
Yep, you don't see me going and voting for Andrew Bogut for all-star game because I'm Australian. Pathetic. Vote for the players that deserve it, not one that has the same skin/eye color/religious beliefs/whatever as you..

Uh What makes you think there are no Aussies that voted for bogut at all BECAUSE he was aussie?

You are speaking for yourself and yourself only.

I went to a Sonics game in 2007. And there was a huge section of aussie boys waving the aussie flag almost the entire game. They were chanting aussie/rugby style songs.

And when he fouled out, that entire section of aussie fans cheered, " BO GUT! BO GUT!"

Never mind the fact that the Bucks lost. They were rejoiced to have seen one of their own (aussie) to play so well. He got a few dunks and layups and that was the loudest the arena was that game.

And I live in France and Tony Parker gets the same focused attention as Lin too. When french news show basketball highlights, their focus is on the fact that Tony Parker is french. "the frenchman who does France proud by beating americans at their own game."

french fan boys stay up late at night to catch NBA games. I am pretty sure they voted for Parker BECAUSE he was french. The funny thing is most french know $hit about basketball. they think Parker is just as good as LeBron and Joakim Noah (his dad yannick is famous) is as good as Hakeem. I asked a handful of French dudes what they knew of basketball. The only names they knew were Parker, Joakim, Michael Jordan, and Magic Johnson.

And that's basketball only. When Curiosity landed on Mars, they had to take away from the moment and insert some self serving comment about how it was French engineers who built (some part of Curiosity). It was their neeneer neeneer moment about how in their own mind they (the french) upstaged the Americans.

I could go on and on about France. But French people cheer for their own just as much as Asians/Chinese cheer for their own too. And aussies are not different.

the point is...Almost everyone not just asians vote for their own. The only reason China gets attention for voting for their own is because their population is by far the largest one on earth and china is a bankable market. Unlike decadent countries has beens like frenchies and morbidly obese americans.

rant over.

bagelred
10-25-2012, 08:08 AM
Lin's stats are not great, but Houston still has 4 - 2 record in the preseason, and Lin still has good +/- when he's on the court. But yeah, it's surprising he has not broken the 10 point barrier in any game yet.

But I want him to do well. I'm not rooting against him just because Dolan is a douche. Let the Linsanity continue. :basketball

coin24
10-25-2012, 08:17 AM
What a surprise... Lin sucks:lol :lol

ihoopallday
10-25-2012, 08:20 AM
What a surprise... Lin sucks:lol :lol

:lol :lol He'll average 7/3/1 and be an all star game starter

JohnnySic
10-25-2012, 08:21 AM
Did people really think he was all that good? :facepalm

maybeshewill13
10-25-2012, 08:28 AM
Uh What makes you think there are no Aussies that voted for bogut at all BECAUSE he was aussie?

You are speaking for yourself and yourself only.

I went to a Sonics game in 2007. And there was a huge section of aussie boys waving the aussie flag almost the entire game. They were chanting aussie/rugby style songs.

And when he fouled out, that entire section of aussie fans cheered, " BO GUT! BO GUT!"

Never mind the fact that the Bucks lost. They were rejoiced to have seen one of their own (aussie) to play so well. He got a few dunks and layups and that was the loudest the arena was that game.

And I live in France and Tony Parker gets the same focused attention as Lin too. When french news show basketball highlights, their focus is on the fact that Tony Parker is french. "the frenchman who does France proud by beating americans at their own game."

french fan boys stay up late at night to catch NBA games. I am pretty sure they voted for Parker BECAUSE he was french. The funny thing is most french know $hit about basketball. they think Parker is just as good as LeBron and Joakim Noah (his dad yannick is famous) is as good as Hakeem. I asked a handful of French dudes what they knew of basketball. The only names they knew were Parker, Joakim, Michael Jordan, and Magic Johnson.

And that's basketball only. When Curiosity landed on Mars, they had to take away from the moment and insert some self serving comment about how it was French engineers who built (some part of Curiosity). It was their neeneer neeneer moment about how in their own mind they (the french) upstaged the Americans.

I could go on and on about France. But French people cheer for their own just as much as Asians/Chinese cheer for their own too. And aussies are not different.

the point is...Almost everyone not just asians vote for their own. The only reason China gets attention for voting for their own is because their population is by far the largest one on earth and china is a bankable market. Unlike decadent countries has beens like frenchies and morbidly obese americans.

rant over.

Settle down chief.. I said "you don't see ME going and voting for Bogut"

Of course people cheer for their own (so they should).. people can cheer Lin all they want.. but voting him into an ALL-STAR game based solely on his race is idiotic.. I'd feel the same if it were Aussie people voting Bogut over Dwight.

coin24
10-25-2012, 08:28 AM
Did people really think he was all that good? :facepalm

A lot of retards on here still do. And call the Knicks idiotic for not paying a ton of tax for the scrub:roll:

maybeshewill13
10-25-2012, 08:30 AM
A lot of retards on here still do. And call the Knicks idiotic for not paying a ton of tax for the scrub:roll:

Pretty much.

coin24
10-25-2012, 08:31 AM
Settle down chief.. I said "you don't see ME going and voting for Bogut"

Of course people cheer for their own (so they should).. people can cheer Lin all they want.. but voting him into an ALL-STAR game based solely on his race is idiotic.. I'd feel the same if it were Aussie people voting Bogut over Dwight.

Well 99.5% of Australians couldnt give 2 shits about basketball so that wont happen anytime soon:oldlol:

RRR3
10-25-2012, 08:31 AM
I still expected Lin to be a good player though. He's not scoring AT ALL. is he still hurt?

BlitzForce
10-25-2012, 01:56 PM
I still expected Lin to be a good player though. He's not scoring AT ALL. is he still hurt?

http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2012/10/jeremy-lin-is-happy-with-the-steady-progress-of-the-rockets/


“For me, it’s progress,” Lin said. “Obviously, I’m not where I want to be right now. Do I wish I played better? Of course. But I have to be realistic and understand when I came into training camp I couldn’t even get into the paint, and now I can get into the paint, but I’m not finishing. The next step is to start finishing, hitting open shots, and hopefully the dam breaks loose.

“I want to mix in the mid-range as well. But for the most part, the shots that I took are the ones I can finish and should finish. It’s one of those things (where) I took the shots and missed them, got blocked on a couple, didn’t make the right adjustment. But it will be better — much better — coming up soon.”


“The best thing about the whole thing was my knee was fine, my wind was decent,” Lin said. “I played the most minutes (31) I played the whole preseason. I’m happy with how I felt.”

niko
10-25-2012, 02:00 PM
http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2012/10/jeremy-lin-is-happy-with-the-steady-progress-of-the-rockets/

What's wrong? He's acting like this is for everyone, why is everyone else ok? Is he still saying he's been hurt? From the minor knee surgery in the beginning of April?

http://news.yahoo.com/lin-needs-knee-surgery-likely-done-season-223604839--spt.html

In early (first week) of April Lin had surgery that would keep him out a maximum of 6 weeks. It's now been approx 28 weeks.

IGOTGAME
10-25-2012, 02:02 PM
NFL players gets surgery that Lin complains of and comes back in 3 weeks.

7 months later Lin is till complaining about the injury.

BrooklynZoo
10-25-2012, 02:10 PM
NFL players gets surgery that Lin complains of and comes back in 3 weeks.

7 months later Lin is till complaining about the injury.

Do NFL players really have to jump? if youre gonna compare injuries compare it to a NBA player :facepalm

niko
10-25-2012, 02:10 PM
NFL players gets surgery that Lin complains of and comes back in 3 weeks.

7 months later Lin is till complaining about the injury.

He might have been right to get out of NY because he'd have been called out on this. He very subtly is blaming injury for everything he does wrong. I think in Houston he's new so it's 100% ok but it NY with all the coverage, if no the NY media the national media would have called him out, fair or unfair.

millwad
10-25-2012, 02:12 PM
He might have been right to get out of NY because he'd have been called out on this. He very subtly is blaming injury for everything he does wrong. I think in Houston he's new so it's 100% ok but it NY with all the coverage, if no the NY media the national media would have called him out, fair or unfair.

I think he's much more exposed now then what he would be in New York. Houston is supposed to be HIS team but in New York he'd be able to hide behind Amare and Anthony and he'd have much less attention on him on offense but now he's going to get locked down time after time..

IGOTGAME
10-25-2012, 02:14 PM
I think he's much more exposed now then what he would be in New York. Houston is supposed to be HIS team but in New York he'd be able to hide behind Amare and Anthony and he'd have much less attention on him on offense but now he's going to get locked down time after time..

So far in preseason he just hides in the corner at the first sign of things going wrong. Luckily, Chandler Parsons and Kevin Martin and Terrence Jones have played very well.

millwad
10-25-2012, 02:17 PM
So far in preseason he just hides in the corner at the first sign of things going wrong. Luckily, Chandler Parsons and Kevin Martin and Terrence Jones have played very well.

As a Rocket fan I really enjoyed the "Linsanity"-thing but I was and I am still butthurt over the fact that the Rockets let two great point guards go just to sign Lin later. And not only did they sign Lin, they gave him a huge contract for a guy who's unproven..

Lowry who got traded away had the cheapest contract in the league..

TheAesirsFinest
10-25-2012, 02:25 PM
NFL players gets surgery that Lin complains of and comes back in 3 weeks.

7 months later Lin is till complaining about the injury.

How hypocritical of you. Your butt still seems hurt as well.

Legends66NBA7
10-25-2012, 02:29 PM
How hypocritical of you. Your butt still seems hurt as well.

Aesirs, where do you see the Rockets in the standings this year with Lin ?

niko
10-25-2012, 02:31 PM
How hypocritical of you. Your butt still seems hurt as well.

It's not hypocritical, he said it at the time actually that Lin wouldn't come back as quick as he could, that he was soft. Fair or unfair he's been very consistent.

brantonli
10-25-2012, 02:40 PM
+ Amnesty your most steady, useful and decent player in Scola.

It's about time the Rockets tanked. We got the 14th pick 3 f**king years in a row. I hated saying goodbye to Scola, but we had to in order to 1) clear space for the contracts Magic wanted to dump on us, or 2) playing time for youngsters.

millwad
10-25-2012, 02:42 PM
It's about time the Rockets tanked. We got the 14th pick 3 f**king years in a row. I hated saying goodbye to Scola, but we had to in order to 1) clear space for the contracts Magic wanted to dump on us, or 2) playing time for youngsters.

Still no excuse for Morey a la saying bye bye to Dragic and Lowry and then pay Lin big money..

TheAesirsFinest
10-25-2012, 02:49 PM
Aesirs, where do you see the Rockets in the standings this year with Lin ?

Heck if I know, dude. That will be one of the things I love/hate this year - our team's instability. With such heavy dependence on our rookies and sophomores, I think we'll look like crap, then look like a terrifying lock-down defense and sprint team, then look like a team that jacks up 3s, then a team which has wet toilet paper for defense....all in the same game. And then you have to take into account Royce White's situation, some minor injuries caused some rotation players to miss preseason games/camp, etc.

To be honest, Lin's play isn't the make-or-break factor for us. Our team defense as a whole is far more important since our game plan seems to be to hustle our asses off on defense and run in transition. So far though, he's been alright. He can't shoot for shit right now and still makes stupid jump passes in traffic, but he's been a decent floor general. I'm relatively confident he'll improve his play since he's had to deal with a bunch of different line-ups and rooks.

I really don't know what to think about the Rockets this year. I think we could go anywhere from 14th to maybe even 7th or 8th in the WC (unlikely).


It's not hypocritical, he said it at the time actually that Lin wouldn't come back as quick as he could, that he was soft. Fair or unfair he's been very consistent.

The hypocrisy is that he's complaining about Lin's inability to get over a supposedly minor injury while he himself is unable to cease being butthurt over anything Lin-related, minor or major. Thanks for reminding me though - he hasn't been consistent either. At the time of the Heat-Knicks series, he talked trash about how Lin wasn't playing with such a negligible setback iirc.


Still no excuse for Morey a la saying bye bye to Dragic and Lowry and then pay Lin big money..

Lowry wanted out. Getting a lottery pick ain't too bad. Dragic wanted a player option, which puts the franchise at a disadvantage. Lin's potential is pretty appealing. Take into account the marketing factor, and for $8m a year (which still doesn't put our salary over the minimum), it's justified.

RRR3
10-25-2012, 03:01 PM
Kyle Lowry this preseason:
27.7 MPG, 15.3 PPG, 4.0 RPG, 5.7 APG, 1.3 SPG, 0.3 BPG, .481 FG%, .500 3P%, .867 FT%


:bowdown:

IGOTGAME
10-25-2012, 03:02 PM
The hypocrisy is that he's complaining about Lin's inability to get over a supposedly minor injury while he himself is unable to cease being butthurt over anything Lin-related, minor or major. Thanks for reminding me though - he hasn't been consistent either. At the time of the Heat-Knicks series, he talked trash about how Lin wasn't playing with such a negligible setback iirc.




I've said have said the exact same things about lin from the jump. go pull up the thread if you want. too much work tho.

ZenMaster
10-25-2012, 03:09 PM
Still no excuse for Morey a la saying bye bye to Dragic and Lowry and then pay Lin big money..

There's another thread on Rockets ownership pushing for Lin.

RRR3
10-25-2012, 03:14 PM
Lin was the dude dropping 38 on the Lakers like it was nothing, and now he can't score for shit :confusedshrug: I think he's at his best scoring and being aggressive, he can't just defer on this Rockets team they don't have many scorers at the moment.

plUto or bUst
10-25-2012, 03:20 PM
Lin is playing in the presason kind of like Rubio did last year for wolves. Running the team well, making good passes, playing good disruptive defense, and helping the team win. It's just that he's shooting piss poor (kind of like Rubio did last year).

Lin gets trashed for being a crappy point guard, and Rubio gets praised as the next Jason Kidd.

RRR3
10-25-2012, 03:20 PM
Lin is supposed to be a scorer. Rubio isn't.

plUto or bUst
10-25-2012, 03:23 PM
Lin is supposed to be a scorer. Rubio isn't.

What he's supposed to be is irrelevant. What he's doing is playing sort of like a Rubio-lite... since his shots not falling. Seems to me the Rockets are doing well in the preseason with Lin running the offense.

millwad
10-25-2012, 03:31 PM
Lowry wanted out. Getting a lottery pick ain't too bad. Dragic wanted a player option, which puts the franchise at a disadvantage. Lin's potential is pretty appealing. Take into account the marketing factor, and for $8m a year (which still doesn't put our salary over the minimum), it's justified.

I may be wrong and please correct me if I am but as far as I know the stuff about him wanting to get out was more rumours and the actual problem was the fact he was that he found the 2 great point guard situation problematic.

And regarding Goran, I couldn't care less about the player option, any sane person would choose Goran Dragic for 4 years with a players option and for 34 million dollars than Jeremy Lin to a 3 year a la 25 million dollar deal.

And my beef is not really Goran, Lowry had the cheapest contract in the NBA compared to what he actually did on court. How hard was it to please the guy, seriously. And trading away a really good player with an extremely good contract should result more than a first round pick..

millwad
10-25-2012, 03:32 PM
Lin was the dude dropping 38 on the Lakers like it was nothing, and now he can't score for shit :confusedshrug: I think he's at his best scoring and being aggressive, he can't just defer on this Rockets team they don't have many scorers at the moment.

You got to realize that the 38 point thing was against Fisher and the guy wasn't as scouted by opposite teams compared to what he's going to be now.

IGOTGAME
10-25-2012, 03:37 PM
Lin is playing in the presason kind of like Rubio did last year for wolves. Running the team well, making good passes, playing good disruptive defense, and helping the team win. It's just that he's shooting piss poor (kind of like Rubio did last year).

Lin gets trashed for being a crappy point guard, and Rubio gets praised as the next Jason Kidd.

:facepalm

Lin is not playing anything like Rubio.

plUto or bUst
10-25-2012, 03:51 PM
:facepalm

Lin is not playing anything like Rubio.

A facepalm and a declarative statement of fact with nothing to back it up equals typical post from IGOTGAME.

Lin is running a team with good offensive efficiency? Check. (Houston is amongst the top teams in offensive efficiency this preseason.)

Lin is making good passes and limiting turnovers? Check.

Lin is playing good defense and getting a lot of steals. Check.

Lin is helping the team win. Check.

Lin is shooting piss poor. Check.

Lin seems to be doing a lot of Rubio things this preseason.

TheAesirsFinest
10-25-2012, 04:26 PM
I may be wrong and please correct me if I am but as far as I know the stuff about him wanting to get out was more rumours and the actual problem was the fact he was that he found the 2 great point guard situation problematic.

And regarding Goran, I couldn't care less about the player option, any sane person would choose Goran Dragic for 4 years with a players option and for 34 million dollars than Jeremy Lin to a 3 year a la 25 million dollar deal.

And my beef is not really Goran, Lowry had the cheapest contract in the NBA compared to what he actually did on court. How hard was it to please the guy, seriously. And trading away a really good player with an extremely good contract should result more than a first round pick..

Gotta say, this was easier than expected. First result on Google :oldlol:

"“I don’t think so,” Lowry, 26, said. “I honestly think it would be tough. Things have to be addressed. The situation would have to be addressed.

“If things aren’t addressed coaching-wise, I guess I have to be moved.”" (http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2012/05/disgruntled-lowry-feels-its-his-time-to-move-on)

I'm not sure if this is true or not, but I believe I read somewhere that we sent Goran to Phoenix as a slight favor to him. We blew up the roster; we'd be wasting his best years. Likewise with Lowry.

But regarding Dragic's player option - Morey said that with a player option, the chances of ending up with essentially a free agent (not desirable to other teams) or a player that few teams want is much higher. I know it's coming from the man himself, but still.

Tbh, I'm just glad we're not stuck in mediocre-land with players that have already plateaued or were on the decline.

millwad
10-25-2012, 04:32 PM
Gotta say, this was easier than expected. First result on Google :oldlol:

"“I don’t think so,” Lowry, 26, said. “I honestly think it would be tough. Things have to be addressed. The situation would have to be addressed.

“If things aren’t addressed coaching-wise, I guess I have to be moved.”" (http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2012/05/disgruntled-lowry-feels-its-his-time-to-move-on)

I'm not sure if this is true or not, but I believe I read somewhere that we sent Goran to Phoenix as a slight favor to him. We blew up the roster; we'd be wasting his best years. Likewise with Lowry.

But regarding Dragic's player option - Morey said that with a player option, the chances of ending up with essentially a free agent (not desirable to other teams) or a player that few teams want is much higher. I know it's coming from the man himself, but still.

Tbh, I'm just glad we're not stuck in mediocre-land with players that have already plateaued or were on the decline.

Yeah, but Lowry's main issue was that he couldn't co-exist with Dragic. I do recall him being pissed the season prior as well and wrote stuff on Twitter like, "I don't want to be somewhere where I'm wanted". He got the green light after that as the starting PG..

If the Rockets would have given him the green light I really do believe that he'd still be the startin PG for the Rockets.