OJ Mayo, Tryeke Evans, or DeMar DeRozan: Who will have the best 2013 season

[Levity]

Out of these 3 young guards, who do you think will have the best 2013 season. These are 3 players whose game has arguably regressed since their first couple seasons in the league. Regardless of that fact, they each have an opportunity this season to show that they can still be a lead guard for their team or new team, in mayo's case.

so out of these 3 players, who do you think will have the best 2013 season?

[FKAri]

D League superstars.

Ill go with OJ

[bluechox2]

derozen

[HylianNightmare]

i honestly think derozan is going to step it up on the offensive end this year, he's looked pretty good

[O.J A 6'4Mamba]

Out of these 3 young guards, who do you think will have the best 2013 season. These are 3 players whose game has arguably regressed since their first couple seasons in the league. Regardless of that fact, they each have an opportunity this season to show that they can still be a lead guard for their team or new team, in mayo's case.

so out of these 3 players, who do you think will have the best 2013 season?

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[Stuckey]

Tyreke if hes fully healthy

[chips93]

Juice > Reke >>> Deshmozan

[Levity]

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[senelcoolidge]

3 disappointing players. Either OJ or DeRozan. But I think they will all still be looked at as disappointments after the season is over.

[ncrizzle]

tyreke if healthy, derozan, then mayo

[Money 23]

Reke when healthy is the best of the bunch.

[00playboy00]

Derozan - coming off usa select team summer.

I think Mayo also played for the USA select team (i could be wrong)

[tikay0]

Reke, if allowed to play his natural position at the pg, but I doubt it. Never had much faith in oj, after seeing what his game really is, in last years playoffs. Derozan has most upside, but he got hurt.

I'm going with derozan.

[fsvr54]

tyreke

[Money 23]

I'm going with derozan.
He doesn't have the skill level of the other two, though.

[Levity]

Im hoping it's Mayo. Hes starting on a new team that needs offense from their back court. He's going to have the oppurtunity to score, but hopefully his whole game fills out as well.

Tyreke's position on the kings is still up in the air. They want him at the 3, and he says he doesnt mind playing there, but he still needs to work on aspects of his game that are required from a 3.

Derozan is looking good in preseason right now(preseason i know...) but i have the same hopes for him going into every season. With Bargs healthy and Jonas coming over, I wonder how he'll look this season on both offense and defense.

[scm5]

Tyreke is the best one of the three, so I will go with him.

He's the most likely to have the best year.

[Whoah10115]

Reke, if allowed to play his natural position at the pg, but I doubt it. Never had much faith in oj, after seeing what his game really is, in last years playoffs. Derozan has most upside, but he got hurt.

I'm going with derozan.



Tyreke is a natural PG?

[Levity]

Tyreke is a natural PG?

I'd say he's a natural street ball pg, in the sense that when he gets to the ball, the rest of his teammates wont be seeing it as much, but instead will be subjected to watching flashy handles and crossovers.

Good player, but if he wants to be a pg(which i dont think he should), he needs to change up his game

[Whoah10115]

I'd say he's a natural street ball pg, in the sense that when he gets to the ball, the rest of his teammates wont be seeing it as much, but instead will be subjected to watching flashy handles and crossovers.

Good player, but if he wants to be a pg(which i dont think he should), he needs to change up his game



I agree with this. This has been my thought process.

[tikay0]

Tyreke is a natural PG?

He's horrible off the ball. He has no clue what to do. Yes, given his size, he should be a SG. He just doesn't have that mentality. He's best with the ball in his hands. It would take a great coach like thibideau to give him a defined role and bring out his potential. Putting him at the 3 is a mistake.

[tikay0]

He doesn't have the skill level of the other two, though.

Yes, but he plays within himself. He was putting up serious numbers before he went down. Mayo and take think their the man. Not good.

[Whoah10115]

He's horrible off the ball. He has no clue what to do. Yes, given his size, he should be a SG. He just doesn't have that mentality. He's best with the ball in his hands. It would take a great coach like thibideau to give him a defined role and bring out his potential. Putting him at the 3 is a mistake.



He doesn't really have to play off the ball to be a 2guard.


I think he and Rose would be good together.

[Money 23]

I think he and Rose would be good together.
When rotating between taking turns handling the rock ala a mini version of LeBron / Wade? Sure. But neither player can work off the ball. It's a lost art among guards and wings in the league. I really wanted the Bulls to pick him up this summer. He'd be perfect dominating the ball, and playmaking in the absence of Rose. They were rivals in HS, played for the same coach in college ... they might make each other better in practice. I don't know however how great they would be on the floor at the same time. If Reke had a legit jumper and off the ball game, catch and shoot, given his more SG caliber size ... they could be real special together.

[kNIOKAS]

IMO Evans has this thing exceptional about him, which is his drives... He could put it to work. I'm hoping.

[alenleomessi]

reke is light years better than both combined

derozan is one of the worst starters in the league, i dont know why people cant see it

[Money 23]

derozan is one of the worst starters in the league, i dont know why people cant see it
Blinded by athleticism.

He's a rich man's Gerald Green.

[MrWarrior]

I'm banking on Tyreke's supposed to be improved jumpshot.
With a jumpshot, he should be pretty hard to guard.

[Money 23]

Yes, but he plays within himself. He was putting up serious numbers before he went down. Mayo and take think their the man. Not good.
Reke can be the man given the opportunity. That's the difference.

I guess if you want a simple role player, but DeRozan is nothing special.

Reke has proven to be something special, he just needs the confidence from the coaches and a system where he can do his THANG.

[raprap]

Tyreke>Derozan>>Mayo

[Fudge]

1. Reke
2. Mayo



3. DeRozan

[veilside23]

tyreke is better than both

but i am thinking oj mayo will have a better career in dallas.. its just quite sad because jkidd is not there anymore but if dallas will try to make oj their point guard it might be a mistake :)

[Fudge]

but if dallas will try to make oj their point guard it might be a mistake :)
Darren Collison is their starting PG.

[Whoah10115]

When rotating between taking turns handling the rock ala a mini version of LeBron / Wade? Sure. But neither player can work off the ball. It's a lost art among guards and wings in the league. I really wanted the Bulls to pick him up this summer. He'd be perfect dominating the ball, and playmaking in the absence of Rose. They were rivals in HS, played for the same coach in college ... they might make each other better in practice. I don't know however how great they would be on the floor at the same time. If Reke had a legit jumper and off the ball game, catch and shoot, given his more SG caliber size ... they could be real special together.



Agreed on the shooting. His jumpshot is broke and that's bad, as he's already difficult to play with. A jumpshot would make things easier. At least some semblance of one.



But I think people are really underrated Mayo. He's got star potential. I don't really see it in DeRozan.

[tikay0]

He doesn't really have to play off the ball to be a 2guard.


I think he and Rose would be good together.


No. No they wouldn't. It would be LBJ and wade all over again.

[O.J A 6'4Mamba]

O.J a 6'4mamba

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

IMO Evans has this thing exceptional about him, which is his drives... He could put it to work. I'm hoping.
qft

The thing is, Tyreke is probably the most naturally talented player of the 3. But, as others have pointed out, his mental state and inconsistent position placement will only hinder him. Especially on a team like the Kings where structure is needed so bad. They want him at the 3, but he's undersized (even though solid as a rock). He has the skillset of a 1, but not the mindset. Ultimately, if he plays 3, he has to stick to just driving and creating. If he starts chucking up J's and 3's, then it'll be a long season for the Kings...

Back to the thread question, if we're talking statistically, I'm going w/ OJ. If we're talking biggest impact, I'm going w/ Derozen, as I got Toronto making the playoffs.

[ralph_i_el]

qft

The thing is, Tyreke is probably the most naturally talented player of the 3. But, as others have pointed out, his mental state and inconsistent position placement will only hinder him. Especially on a team like the Kings where structure is needed so bad. They want him at the 3, but he's undersized (even though solid as a rock). He has the skillset of a 1, but not the mindset. Ultimately, if he plays 3, he has to stick to just driving and creating. If he starts chucking up J's and 3's, then it'll be a long season for the Kings...

Back to the thread question, if we're talking statistically, I'm going w/ OJ. If we're talking biggest impact, I'm going w/ Derozen, as I got Toronto making the playoffs.

i agree. Evans is just a 3 with a great handle. in the right situation he's a star

[Dbrog]

Oh how the mighty have fallen. I wanted all these dudes to succeed very well in the league. Honestly, it was pretty shocking to see Mayo become such a bust (compared to what he was projected to be). One of the biggest IMO. Tyreke looked so great his rookie year and we saw glimpses of what he could become, but the guy just doesn't get it. He really hasn't gotten much better than when he started. This dude had potential to dominate backcourts and be a great passer. What happened?

DeRozan doesn't really belong as far as skill level is concerned, and yet I think he might have the best year. There is something seriously wrong with this. Mayo's game just didn't translate (like Telfair) but Reke! Step up yo game!!

[GoRapz]

I will make an avatar bet that DeRozan has the best year out of these guys. Who's in?

[RaininTwos]

My order:

OJ Mayo
Reke




Derozan

DD really hasn't improved all that much since his rookie year. Maybe he'll be better than the other two, but I doubt it.

[plowking]

I think OJ will have the best one. I still think he can be a star.

One player who I finally think is in the right place to shine though, is Jerryd Bayless. Watch out for him. I hope to god they don't keep playing Wayne Ellington ahead of him in the starting line up... That'll be some sad shit otherwise.

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

Oh how the mighty have fallen. I wanted all these dudes to succeed very well in the league. Honestly, it was pretty shocking to see Mayo become such a bust (compared to what he was projected to be). One of the biggest IMO. Tyreke looked so great his rookie year and we saw glimpses of what he could become, but the guy just doesn't get it. He really hasn't gotten much better than when he started. This dude had potential to dominate backcourts and be a great passer. What happened?

DeRozan doesn't really belong as far as skill level is concerned, and yet I think he might have the best year. There is something seriously wrong with this. Mayo's game just didn't translate (like Telfair) but Reke! Step up yo game!!
I think you answered your own question. I honestly think his rookie year got to his head and he began to think he could become some type of dominating scoring machine or something.

He just needs to stop thinking he can drain NBA J's/3's like he can drain And1 J's/3's (he can drain those ones though...). Honestly, if he was just a drive and disher...it's scary how good he could be. But now that's Isaiah's job. My main preference would be to bring Tyreke off the bench and be the creator for the 2nd team. Kings played well when he did come off the bench last season. But...oh well.

[Whoah10115]

I think you answered your own question. I honestly think his rookie year got to his head and he began to think he could become some type of dominating scoring machine or something.

He just needs to stop thinking he can drain NBA J's/3's like he can drain And1 J's/3's (he can drain those ones though...). Honestly, if he was just a drive and disher...it's scary how good he could be. But now that's Isaiah's job. My main preference would be to bring Tyreke off the bench and be the creator for the 2nd team. Kings played well when he did come off the bench last season. But...oh well.




He's not coming off the bench and it's not a good idea either. If they wanna do that, then they want to trade him and may as well do so.

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

He's not coming off the bench and it's not a good idea either. If they wanna do that, then they want to trade him and may as well do so.
How is it not a good idea? It was Tyreke's idea to come off the bench b/c he saw how well the team was doing when he was out injured and the team was better those couple of games he did come off the bench. Even he performed better.

...but I will say, I actually would prefer them to trade him than keep him.

[Finger Roll]

Losing the dunk contest ruined dd. hopefully Ross can push him

[Whoah10115]

How is it not a good idea? It was Tyreke's idea to come off the bench b/c he saw how well the team was doing when he was out injured and the team was better those couple of games he did come off the bench. Even he performed better.

...but I will say, I actually would prefer them to trade him than keep him.



Well, if it was his idea, then big ups to him for the maturity and selflessness.


But in the long run, it's better they trade him than 6th man him.

[Qwyjibo]

It depends:

- Tyreke Evans if I wanted to risk it a bit on his higher (compared to the other 2) potential talent ceiling.

- OJ Mayo if I want guaranteed decent results but rarely anything above-average. Probably a better fit for an established playoff team.

- Demar Derozan if I'm stupid because all he has is potential and Evans has more of it.

I'd probably take Tyreke in the end.

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

Well, if it was his idea, then big ups to him for the maturity and selflessness.

well, part of me wonders why it was only like 2 games and not indefinitely.

Was it his idea to just come off the bench a couple games to kind of slowly get back in to game shape while the team was playing well? I remember the announcers saying he said he didn't want to disrupt the flow of the team.

Or was it Smart saying "ok, Tyreke, time to start again (for whatever reason)." "Ok, sounds good to me!"

Or Tyreke saying "hey coach, I wanna start again." "Yes, sir."

No doubt he showed maturity and selflessness. But part of me wonders if there's a limit on those for him...

[Levity]

Over a month in and im sure we can all agree its been mayo, thus far. But surprisingly, Tyreke has been playing well as of late. He's been given some point guard duties and has been sharing the ball pretty well. I think he was also quoted saying he wants to be the teams go to guy. So im excited to see how their seasons continue to develop, especially with Dirk coming back