Ray Allen says you should boo the Celtics, not him

[sirkeelma]

[QUOTE]How did you deal with all the negativity of you leaving Boston because you chose to come here?

[I]

[bluechox2]

ray, just say no comment and be on with it.

[Nick Young]

Typical ingrate C's fans, Ray Allen carries that team on his back to their first title in 20 years (and it will be atleast another 20 years before they even get to the finals) and now they boo him. Typical scumbag dirt bostonian fanbase

[Shade8780]

Typical ingrate C's fans, Ray Allen carries that team on his back to their first title in 20 years (and it will be atleast another 20 years before they even get to the finals) and now they boo him. Typical scumbag dirt bostonian fanbase
Typical Lakers fans :facepalm Ray Allen carried the Celtics to a title???!! :facepalm KG, Pierce and Rondo are all better than him

[IGOTGAME]

Typical Ray Allen.

[L.Kizzle]

There is a reaon Kendrick Perkins is smiling more lately, because he is not in Boston anymore.

[Kevin_Garnett_5]

There is a reaon Kendrick Perkins is smiling more lately, because he is not in Boston anymore.
:facepalm Most ignorant thing I've ever read. Perkins was disappointed when he was traded from the Celtics and has praised the organization multiple times since.

Ray's literally the only person I've seen who's complained about the Celtics organization (and he hasn't even really done that). Other than that, most of the players who've played for the Celtics over the last few years have had nothing but great things to say about the organization.

[raprap]

shots fired. :eek:

[KOBE143]

I understand Cleveland fans for booing LeBron when he left to ring chase but for Boston fans booing Ray Allen after he gave your franchise another title in 20yrs.. Typical Boston fans showing their true colors..

[Real Men Wear Green]

Good luck with that one Ray.

[CelticBaller]

lol fvck ray allen, he's not on my team anymore so i'll keep booing him and the heat

[GreatHILL]

fucc the celtics fucc the lakers and fucc their fans and a big fucc u ray lmao

ever heard that the players dont give a damn about their fans? :oldlol:

[swi7ch]

I wonder how BOS fans would feel when Ray hit his 7th 3-pointer against them to put the Heat up by 30 in the elimination game?

[jbryan1984]

I think I read somewhere that when Celtics play the Thunder, Perkins goes out with the Celtics after the game because of how close they are/were.

[rodman91]

I wonder how BOS fans would feel when Ray hit his 7th 3-pointer against them to put the Heat up by 30 in the elimination game?

:lol

[Walker]

I just don't get it.
I see Ray's situation as exactly the same as what STAT was facing in Phoenix.
The team was actively shopping Ray last year, it wasn't a secret to anyone. Why would he then go and resign with them?
Look at the way STAT and the Suns organization from the Execs right down to the fans treated the situation, with class and dignity. I think you'd be very hard pressed to find one single Suns fan that has any hate or anger for STAT for moving on and to this day most still want to see him be successful.

Why can't Celtics fans be happy with what he achieved there and move on. It must be so dissapointing for the guy to have these people that he worked so hard for turn on him for essentially nothing.

[Kevin_Garnett_5]

If they were "actively shopping" him, he would have been gone by the deadline. It's not like there aren't a bunch of teams out there that could use a player like Ray Allen. The only deal I even heard about involving Ray last season was the Memphis trade that apparently fell through. Rondo was probably involved in triple the amount of trade rumors Ray was last season. If the Celtics were so eager to get rid of him they wouldn't have offered him a solid contract (almost double what he's getting paid in Miami) with a no trade clause this offseason.

I personally have no problem with Ray leaving but I'm not gonna feel bad for him if he gets booed for deciding to play for the Celtics biggest roadblock for significantly less money.

[Asiantastic]

I just don't get it.
I see Ray's situation as exactly the same as what STAT was facing in Phoenix.
The team was actively shopping Ray last year, it wasn't a secret to anyone. Why would he then go and resign with them?
Look at the way STAT and the Suns organization from the Execs right down to the fans treated the situation, with class and dignity. I think you'd be very hard pressed to find one single Suns fan that has any hate or anger for STAT for moving on and to this day most still want to see him be successful.

Why can't Celtics fans be happy with what he achieved there and move on. It must be so dissapointing for the guy to have these people that he worked so hard for turn on him for essentially nothing.

It's not the same as Amare's situation at all. Amare went to NY, a team which was still quite awful and that had no past animosity with Phoenix.

Ray on the other hand went to the Heat, a team that just beat the Celtics in an intense 7 game series and was arguably the only team that held the Celtics back from making the finals 2 years in a row (the Bulls might have gave them a run in 2011 though). Not to mention the Heat are already extremely talented, so he obviously just left to spite the Celtics organization due to the trade rumors and ring chase.

I completely understand how Celtics fans feel. I would be completely devastated if Gasol decided to just leave for the Thunder one summer, only to get another ring.

[dbugz]

I just don't get it.
I see Ray's situation as exactly the same as what STAT was facing in Phoenix.
The team was actively shopping Ray last year, it wasn't a secret to anyone. Why would he then go and resign with them?



Rondo's the most classy player then :bowdown: :bowdown:

Heard how many times Ainge shop this dude for a big trade even before he sign extension with the Cs? and just last season involving Dwight and CP3? Dude can easily ask for a trade for that but inspite of it, he remains loyal, shut his mouth, work his ass off to prove the he belongs and deserved to be a Celtic.

Look what he achieved right now.

[Dictator]

fucc ray allen

[EnoughSaid]

I hope Miami meets the C's in the Playoffs and Allen goes off and destroys them, sinking in 3 after 3 after 3. Especially in the TD Garden.

[dbugz]

I hope Miami meets the C's in the Playoffs and Allen goes off and destroys them, sinking in 3 after 3 after 3. Especially in the TD Garden.

Aint going to happen, Did you see how he played like shit last playoffs? Expect the worst. :lol

[Kevin_Garnett_5]

I hope Miami meets the C's in the Playoffs and Allen goes off and destroys them, sinking in 3 after 3 after 3. Especially in the TD Garden.
I hope he doesn't.

[DixieNourmous]

Does this mean the Celtics fans would actually root for the Lakers if it were a Heat/Laker final?

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[dbugz]

Does this mean the Celtics fans would actually root for the Lakers if it were a Heat/Laker final?

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Just like the lakers fans rooting for the Cs when they're up against LeBron? :lol

[SpecialQue]

Does this mean the Celtics fans would actually root for the Lakers if it were a Heat/Laker final?

http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/wtf/grand/lol_wtf_gif.gif

Look up how the "Beat LA" chant started.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Lol at all these fake heat fans in here commenting. Look at your join dates LOL. Enough said!

[guy]

What does he mean with them not offering a good contract? They offered more then Miami?

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

What does he mean with them not offering a good contract? They offered more then Miami?
Means he was jealous of kg's contract

[guy]

Typical ingrate C's fans, Ray Allen carries that team on his back to their first title in 20 years (and it will be atleast another 20 years before they even get to the finals) and now they boo him. Typical scumbag dirt bostonian fanbase

Umm he didn't carry shit. In fact I remember him being almost invisible in the series vs Cleveland. On top of that, he had two all time horrible games in the 2010 Finals that probably cost them that championship.

[InfiniteBaskets]

Does this mean the Celtics fans would actually root for the Lakers if it were a Heat/Laker final?


Miami Heat... The only NBA team since the inception of the NBA to unite Lakers and Celtics fans :oldlol:

[Salazaar]

good luck in playing alongside the cockiest most arrogant uneducated superstar of all time.

I wasn't aware that Ray Allen moved to the Lakers? :confusedshrug:

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

I wasn't aware that Ray Allen moved to the Lakers? :confusedshrug:
Lebron, 870 SAT score. Kobe, 1080.

[Clippersfan86]

Ray Allen is a pu*sy point blank. Dude has always been a cry baby. Remember him going to the media to call out young Kobe multiple times? It's like dude STFU and play the game. Just comes across as a prima donna type who complains about petty shit and has an an@l personality.

[ImmortalD24]

he's not a lakers fan
^ This.

[Kurosawa0]

Love it. These Miami-Boston games are going to be great.

[Salazaar]

Lebron, 870 SAT score. Kobe, 1080.

Kobe, 1 raped girl. Lebron, 0. :coleman:

[Heavincent]

Boston fans are very loyal to their team, but they are just so ungrateful toward players who leave to go somewhere else.

The Celtics tried to trade Ray last season. So you're telling me he should show loyalty toward them even though they weren't showing loyalty toward him? :confusedshrug:

He honored his contract, and then left because he felt his job would be more secure in Miami. Boston fans should blame their organization for making Ray feel expandable.

[Heavincent]

Ray Allen is a pu*sy point blank. Dude has always been a cry baby. Remember him going to the media to call out young Kobe multiple times? It's like dude STFU and play the game. Just comes across as a prima donna type who complains about petty shit and has an an@l personality.

Huh? Ray is one of the true class acts in the league. Sometimes he is brutally honest (like this comment), but that's perfectly fine. He's not afraid to tell you what he thinks. That doesn't mean he's a prima donna.

He's one of the hardest working players in the league too. He has always been in peak shape and condition and he's still a great player despite his old age and the ankle spurs.

[Salazaar]

Boston fans are very loyal to their team, but they are just so ungrateful toward players who leave to go somewhere else.

The Celtics tried to trade Ray last season. So you're telling me he should show loyalty toward them even though they weren't showing loyalty toward him? :confusedshrug:

He honored his contract, and then left because he felt his job would be more secure in Miami. Boston fans should blame their organization for making Ray feel expandable.

Repped.

[Vancouver-Grizz]

Wow....

Boston hating on Allen???

Are you F---In kidding me? The dude fullfilled his contract with the upmost respect to the organization and the city/community. You cannot ask for a better citizen in Ray Allen. He might of scorned the Celtics but don't forget it was Ainge whom tried to shop him to other teams in the past couple of years. They shopped him and now they expect Allen to resign just so that they can dangle him during the trade deadline again? Get real, any one of you would of taken other offers considering the situation Allen was in.

FYI...you are outta your minds for those who didn't think Allen had a big impact on their first championship run.

[Pinkhearts]

Just be happy he didn't go to the Lakers to back up Kobe instead. That will make the Lakers unstoppable.

[L.Kizzle]

What does he mean with them not offering a good contract? They offered more then Miami?
They offered more after they heard he was leaving.

It's the ultimate "don't leave me, I'll give you this."

[Money 23]

Ray Allen is like a douche in good guy clothing.

He's always been kind of a prick.

[BuffaloBill]

I wonder who else is going to betray their team and go join Miami.

[CelticBaller]

I wonder how BOS fans would feel when Ray hit his 7th 3-pointer against them to put the Heat up by 30 in the elimination game?
Too bad it wont happen, you'll be lucky if he makes more than 4 threes, and if he does make more than 4 threes expect him to disappear like he did in the finals

[swi7ch]

In BOS, Ray has to go through 87 screens in one play just to get a chance at shooting the ball. And even then, he's not guaranteed to get the ball. He's tired all the time from running. Not to mention he's older and has more injuries. He's also unhappy in BOS which obviously affected him.

In MIA, all he has to do is stand in one spot all game long and wait for LBJ or Wade to get the ball to him. He won't be tired all the time from running. His injuries or age won't affect him too much because he's not moving/running around as much. He's just standing in the corner. He's happy in MIA and he has revenge on his mind... the most powerful form of motivation.

World of difference.

[longtime lurker]

Ray Allen is coming off like a bit of a bitch here. The Celtics offered him more money than the Heat AND a no trade clause. Why would the fans boo the Celtics? It's obvious that Ray Allen is just ring chasing which at this point in his career is not a bad thing, but he should just say it was a business decision and leave it at that.

[CelticBaller]

In BOS, Ray has to go through 87 screens in one play just to get a chance at shooting the ball. And even then, he's not guaranteed to get the ball. He's tired all the time from running. Not to mention he's not older and has more injuries.

In MIA, all he has to do is stand in one spot all game long and wait for LBJ or Wade to get the ball to him. He won't be tired all the time from running. His injuries or age won't affect him too much because he's not moving/running around as much. He's just standing in the corner.

World of difference.
Nice one Nostradamus. he seemed to be making alot of threes in the preseason :applause: :facepalm

[swi7ch]

Nice one Nostradamus. he seemed to be making alot of threes in the preseason :applause: :facepalm
Yes, let's spend 100% of our energy in the F*CKING PRESEASON especially since we're older now has gone through multiple ankle injuries! Very very smart!!! Woo0hoo, I'll shoot 10 3s a game in the preseason! That'll show 'em!

:facepalm:facepalm:facepalm

[daily]

Ray Allen is done. It was evident last year and will be more-so this season. He can talk all he wants but the cletics made a fair offer based on his talent level, he got his feelings hurt and headed to Miami to pout about it.

[CelticBaller]

Yes, let's spend 100% of our energy in the F*CKING PRESEASON especially since we're older now has gone through multiple ankle injuries! Very very smart!!! Woo0hoo, I'll shoot 10 3s a game in the preseason!

:facepalm:facepalm:facepalm
Now you can read their minds? oh wait you should be able to since you know whats going to be going on through the opposite team's mind when they see ray allen in a heat jersey :applause:

[Clippersfan86]

Huh? Ray is one of the true class acts in the league. Sometimes he is brutally honest (like this comment), but that's perfectly fine. He's not afraid to tell you what he thinks. That doesn't mean he's a prima donna.

He's one of the hardest working players in the league too. He has always been in peak shape and condition and he's still a great player despite his old age and the ankle spurs.

I disagree. Sure he's good with the community and classy at times but it's FAR exaggerated. Dude has always given me an asshole/douche vibe. I don't give a shit how much he works out, he comes off like a dick to me.

[Shade8780]

In BOS, Ray has to go through 87 screens in one play just to get a chance at shooting the ball. And even then, he's not guaranteed to get the ball. He's tired all the time from running. Not to mention he's older and has more injuries. He's also unhappy in BOS which obviously affected him.

In MIA, all he has to do is stand in one spot all game long and wait for LBJ or Wade to get the ball to him. He won't be tired all the time from running. His injuries or age won't affect him too much because he's not moving/running around as much. He's just standing in the corner. He's happy in MIA and he has revenge on his mind... the most powerful form of motivation.

World of difference.
Because LeBron and DWade are better passers than Rondo? :facepalm

[SourGrapes]

Kobe, 1 raped girl. Lebron, 0. :coleman:

You sound *****made

Are you a female?

[CelticBaller]

Ray Allen is done. It was evident last year and will be more-so this season. He can talk all he wants but the cletics made a fair offer based on his talent level, he got his feelings hurt and headed to Miami to pout about it.
Ray Allen never blamed his shooting woes on his ankles, he always blamed it himself. Heck he was even missing free throws, I don't know if his ankles have something to do with his shooting but we can't just assume he's going to be back to his 08 form

[Salazaar]

You sound *****made

Are you a female?

No. I'm not even a human.

[oh the horror]

Kobe, 1 raped girl. Lebron, 0. :coleman:


This is such a lame response. Not only is it like what now? 6 years old...but one hoodrat calls "rape" and these dudes on here use it as an argument?


This is the guy in an argument that always sides with the b*tches. :oldlol:

[mans1ay3r]

I didn't even care what he did. When he comes back to Boston in a Heat uniform, I'd treat him like just another opponent. I wouldnt acknowledge him like Perkins. Ray chose to leave.

This "boo the Celtics" shit is going to make people that didn't care boo him. How much more did the Heat offer him over the Celtics?

[SpecialQue]

I'm going to boo the Celtics, AND Ray Allen.

Kiss my ass, Ray!

[BlackWhiteGreen]

Boston fans are very loyal to their team, but they are just so ungrateful toward players who leave to go somewhere else.

The Celtics tried to trade Ray last season. So you're telling me he should show loyalty toward them even though they weren't showing loyalty toward him? :confusedshrug:

He honored his contract, and then left because he felt his job would be more secure in Miami. Boston fans should blame their organization for making Ray feel expandable.

"Job security"? Who was the last NBA player to get fired? Ray could have taken twice as much a year to stay in Boston, and if he got traded, he still gets paid. Hell if he gets amnestied, he still gets paid. His contract would have been untradable first year anyway if he played badly, if he played well then the Celtics would have kept him.

Ray is/was expendable because he's nothing more than a 3pt shooter at this point in his career coming off an injury. He's expendable to Miami as well.

[BlackWhiteGreen]

This "boo the Celtics" shit is going to make people that didn't care boo him. How much more did the Heat offer him over the Celtics?

$3m/year less.

[Salazaar]

This is such a lame response. Not only is it like what now? 6 years old...but one hoodrat calls "rape" and these dudes on here use it as an argument?


This is the guy in an argument that always sides with the b*tches. :oldlol:

It was a lame response to a lame argument that lebron is the most arrogant egoistic uneducated superstar because he had a 680 SAT score... But if he wants to dig that topic, D-Rose, Mr.Humble, cheated on his SATs :oldlol:

[Derka]

There is a reaon Kendrick Perkins is smiling more lately, because he is not in Boston anymore.

ESPN's The Association footage pretty clearly shows that he cried his goddamn eyes out when he heard he was traded.

Granted, he got exactly the kind of contract he wanted and he could not have gotten it from the Celtics. He had reason to be happy. But he wasn't happy at all when he had to leave Boston. At all.

[Derka]

I didn't even care what he did. When he comes back to Boston in a Heat uniform, I'd treat him like just another opponent. I wouldnt acknowledge him like Perkins. Ray chose to leave.

This "boo the Celtics" shit is going to make people that didn't care boo him. How much more did the Heat offer him over the Celtics?

The Heat offered a deal worth approximately $3 million LESS than the Celtics. Ray also left a no-trade clause on the table.

[Derka]

Does this mean the Celtics fans would actually root for the Lakers if it were a Heat/Laker final?

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That's not a world I want to live in. :(

[bdreason]

Weren't the Celtics actively shopping Ray last year?


It's funny how fans will just automatically side with their franchise. It's a business, and Ray took the better business opportunity. Celtics would have done the same thing.

[Derka]

And since I'm on a streak posting here, I kinda wish Ray had just said No Comment. He comes off like a whiny git in that quote. For the record, I'm not booing him because he's a traitor or out of some misplaced animosity. He's wearing a Heat jersey...the Heat are a bitter rival and he wears their uniform. I boo the best player in the game today because he wears that jersey...never really booed him in Cleveland. So Ray's fair game.

I don't understand the acrimony from these guys who complain about being trade assets. You're an asset in a business that moves basketball players around like poker players tossing chips. Everybody understands that. This is a part of the business you chose. Pretty stupid to sign up to be a team's asset and then hold it against said team when they actually, you know, treat you as such.

The Celtics got him his only ring and a starting spot on a yearly playoff contender at a time in his life when a lot of his peers were starting on crap teams or backing up younger players. I'll grant you that Ray Allen is certainly miles beyond his peers and has a work ethic that shits on the young guys in the league...but the point stands. He played for an organization that tailor made an offense to his strengths and didn't get worked up about his enormously lacking defensive skills. He played for THE best fan base in the NBA (biased? absolutely). He went through his slumps and disappeared in the playoffs a few times on us. Boston forgave him and looked forward to seeing him out on the floor again next year.

But please Ray...go on about how poorly treated you were.

[StateOfMind12]

I don't blame Ray for being unhappy and leaving. He didn't feel wanted or respected in Boston.

Celtics since like 2009 have been actively trying to shop Ray Allen. How would you feel if you were constantly in trade talks for like the past 3 years? Knowing that your job with the team is not secure?

Most people would have left and been upset in Ray's case to be honest. It's simply human nature.

[Kevin_Garnett_5]

Boston fans are very loyal to their team, but they are just so ungrateful toward players who leave to go somewhere else.

The Celtics tried to trade Ray last season. So you're telling me he should show loyalty toward them even though they weren't showing loyalty toward him? :confusedshrug:

He honored his contract, and then left because he felt his job would be more secure in Miami. Boston fans should blame their organization for making Ray feel expandable.


Wow....

Boston hating on Allen???

Are you F---In kidding me? The dude fullfilled his contract with the upmost respect to the organization and the city/community. You cannot ask for a better citizen in Ray Allen. He might of scorned the Celtics but don't forget it was Ainge whom tried to shop him to other teams in the past couple of years. They shopped him and now they expect Allen to resign just so that they can dangle him during the trade deadline again? Get real, any one of you would of taken other offers considering the situation Allen was in.

FYI...you are outta your minds for those who didn't think Allen had a big impact on their first championship run.

Wrong. The Celtics offered him a no trade clause (despite the fact that he's no where near good enough to deserve one). It doesn't get anymore secure than that.

I love how people who know little to no details about the situation throw in their two cents without checking their facts.

[ihoopallday]

Sometimes you guys forget the NBA is THEIR JOB! Would you wake up every morning and go work somewhere you don't like? I for sure wouldn't. The guy wanted to be in a different environment. I don't get why fans don't respect that.

[L.Kizzle]

Wrong. The Celtics offered him a no trade clause (despite the fact that he's no where near good enough to deserve one). It doesn't get anymore secure than that.

I love how people who know little to no details about the situation throw in their two cents without checking their facts.
You know they only offered him a contract and no trade clause after they realized he was about to leave.

[Kevin_Garnett_5]

You know they only offered him a contract and no trade clause after they realized he was about to leave.
:facepalm No they didn't. They offered him a contract (double what the Heat offered) the first day of free agency.

[L.Kizzle]

:facepalm No they didn't. They offered him a contract (double what the Heat offered) the first day of free agency.
Of course, but they only offered him the contract cause they new he would probably leave.

[wpdougie2180]

:facepalm No they didn't. They offered him a contract (double what the Heat offered) the first day of free agency.

And according to this he took even less than everyone thinks he just wanted to leave no reason to blame the organization talking about contracts and such when your in the exact same situation in Miami (bench player) but with less potential mins. while turning down almost triple the money and a no trade clause (something only Kobe, Duncan, KG, and Dirk have is he really on there level, none of them are bench players)


Ray Allen contract: One year plus a player option

by Ethan J. Skolnick

The widespread assumption was that, if Ray Allen signed with the Heat rather taking a more lucrative offer with the Celtics, he would sign for as much as he could get. That would have been meant three years and roughly $9.5 million, and that’s what you probably read in a lot of places.
If you’ve read any Allen stories on the Palm Beach Post website, you read something different — that the deal was not a straight three years and instead included a player option. That (the presence of a player option) was based on information I received prior to Allen’s introductory press conference. And that’s why I asked Pat Riley about the reports of a straight three-year contract, a question that Riley refused to directly answer.
Unfortunately, however, I made an assumption: that the option came after the second season, and governed the third season.
Today, the Miami Herald reported that the option is before the second season, and there is nothing tying the the Heat and Allen for a third season.
That report is accurate.
What does it mean?
It means that Allen took even less, in terms of total possible income, that anyone thought. He could have received roughly $6 million per season from the Celtics, according to reports. It turns out that $6 million will be roughly his maximum payoff from Miami.
It also that Allen has some flexibility, if the first season doesn’t go as well as he hopes — or even if it goes even better for him individually, and he simply wants to opt out to try to command more in the open market.

[Kevin_Garnett_5]

Of course, but they only offered him the contract cause they new he would probably leave.
Your point? Clearly they didn't want him to leave if they offered him double what he's making in Miami along with a no trade clause. They have a right to be mad that he left to play for the defending ECF/NBA champs for less money.

[longtime lurker]

Sometimes you guys forget the NBA is THEIR JOB! Would you wake up every morning and go work somewhere you don't like? I for sure wouldn't. The guy wanted to be in a different environment. I don't get why fans don't respect that.

If I was getting paid millions I'd work in the pits of hell

[L.Kizzle]

Your point? Clearly they didn't want him to leave if they offered him double what he's making in Miami along with a no trade clause. They have a right to be mad that he left to play for the defending ECF/NBA champs for less money.
They've been tryin to trade him for half of his stay in Boston, what do you mean they didn't want him to leave?


If I'm at an office job, and I hear whispers about them tryin to get rid of, what do I do?

Another company is offering me a position at their firm. My current jobs here about it and tries to offer me a deal. They're even try and up the anty just so this other player can't get at me.

But, while the company did do good for me, they were tryin to let me go. Who's to say if I decline the offer from the other organization, six months later instead of the whispers, it becomes reality and they do drop me?

... decisions, decisions, decisions ...

[Kevin_Garnett_5]

They've been tryin to trade him for half of his stay in Boston, what do you mean they didn't want him to leave?


If I'm at an office job, and I hear whispers about them tryin to get rid of, what do I do?

Another company is offering me a position at their firm. My current jobs here about it and tries to offer me a deal. They're even try and up the anty just so this other player can't get at me.


... decisions, decisions, decisions ...
If they were trying to trade him for half his stay in Boston, explain why he wasn't traded? That is a gross exaggeration. It's not like he was an untradeable player. If the Celtics wanted him gone, he would have been gone a long time ago. His name came up in a few trade rumors here and there, yet that somehow turns into "the Celtics have been trying to get rid of him for years!!!!!!". Give me a break...


But, while the company did do good for me, they were tryin to let me go. Who's to say if I decline the offer from the other organization, six months later instead of the whispers, it becomes reality and they do drop me?

How could he be traded with a no trade clause? That literally makes no sense whatsoever.

[L.Kizzle]

If they were trying to trade him for half his stay in Boston, explain why he wasn't traded? That is a gross exaggeration. It's not like he was an untradeable player. If the Celtics wanted him gone, he would have been gone a long time ago. His name came up in a few trade rumors here and there, yet that somehow turns into "the Celtics have been trying to get rid of him for years!!!!!!". Give me a break...



How could he be traded with a no trade clause? That literally makes no sense whatsoever.
The no trade clause was in the new deal, not the previous deal.

[Kevin_Garnett_5]

The no trade clause was in the new deal, not the previous deal.
Either way, he was offered a no trade clause and double the money to stay in Boston and he declined it to play for half the money in Miami. If the Celtics "didn't want him" they wouldn't have even have bothered offering it.

And please explain why Ray wasn't traded if the Celtics have been "actively trying to get rid of him for half his stay in Boston". Is Ray Allen untradeable now?

[vegasbigshots]

ray, just say no comment and be on with it.

Agree . Take the high road.

[Salazaar]

If they were trying to trade him for half his stay in Boston, explain why he wasn't traded? That is a gross exaggeration. It's not like he was an untradeable player. If the Celtics wanted him gone, he would have been gone a long time ago. His name came up in a few trade rumors here and there, yet that somehow turns into "the Celtics have been trying to get rid of him for years!!!!!!". Give me a break...




Didn't you know the Celtics (Doc Rivers, that is) informed Ray Ray he'd been traded to Memphis but the deal eventually broke apart? If you knew that, that's what you call "a few rumours here and there?"

[Kevin_Garnett_5]

Didn't you know the Celtics (Doc Rivers, that is) informed Ray Ray he'd been traded to Memphis but the deal eventually broke apart? If you knew that, that's what you call "a few rumours here and there?"
Yes, I knew about that. I even mentioned it earlier. But that doesn't mean the Celtics were "trying to get rid of him for years" or were "actively shopping him", because if they were, he'd have been gone. That was one deal that fell through, if they were desperately trying to get rid of him that year they could have easily renegotiated that deal or found another one.

I'll ask you the same question I asked L.Kizzle, if they were trying to get rid of him for years, why wasn't he traded? Did none of the 30 teams in the NBA want Ray Allen?

[ballup]

So he wants fans to boo their organization, which was trying to set up the best possible scenario to win?

[Salazaar]

Yes, I knew about that. I even mentioned it earlier. But that doesn't mean the Celtics were "trying to get rid of him for years" or were "actively shopping him", because if they were, he'd have been gone. That was one deal that fell through, if they were desperately trying to get rid of him that year they could have easily renegotiated that deal or found another one.

I'll ask you the same question I asked L.Kizzle, if they were trying to get rid of him for years, why wasn't he traded? Did none of the 30 teams in the NBA want Ray Allen?

Maybe their asking price was too steep. Anyway, I'm not saying they desperately tried to get rid of him, but he was constantly involved in legitimate trade rumours (and one trade that didn't happen). I understand that a player his age and of his caliber seeks stability in his professional life at this point in his career. Plus, from a basketball standpoint, Miami is a much better place for him to be now, you have a ton of open looks created by lbj and wade penetration and just need to make 'em without running through 100 screens on every possession just to touch the ball. The reported rift with Rondo didn't help, either.

BTW really nice of you celtic homers, -26 rep points in like 3 posts in this thread. Go cry me a river :oldlol:

[Kevin_Garnett_5]

Maybe their asking price was too steep. Anyway, I'm not saying they desperately tried to get rid of him, but he was constantly involved in legitimate trade rumours (and one trade that didn't happen). I understand that a player his age and of his caliber seeks stability in his professional life at this point in his career. Plus, from a basketball standpoint, Miami is a much better place for him to be now, you have a ton of open looks created by lbj and wade penetration and just need to make 'em without running through 100 screens on every possession just to touch the ball. The reported rift with Rondo didn't help, either.
No where near as many as Rondo. And we have no idea how "legitimate" they were.

I have no problem with him going to Miami but to say the Celtics didn't even want him is just completely false.

[Salazaar]

No where near as many as Rondo. And we have no idea how "legitimate" they were.

I have no problem with him going to Miami but to say the Celtics didn't even want him is just completely false.

They weren't desperate to have him back, either. KG got twice the salary Ray was offered. Plus, his role with the team was decreasing. (Avery Bradley)

[Kevin_Garnett_5]

They weren't desperate to have him back, either. KG got twice the salary Ray was offered.
Because KG is twice as important to the team as Ray is. They still offered him a very good contract with a no trade clause (something that is usually only given to stars).

[Salazaar]

Because KG is twice as important to the team as Ray is. They still offered him a very good contract with a no trade clause (something that is usually only given to stars).

Then why all this backlash? If he wasn't even that important to them? This is a business and there's no place for hard feelings.. The Celtics turned their back on Ray and agreed to trade him, and now he just did what's best for him. It's not like he was a franchise savior and the Celts begged him to come back because if not they were going down to the lottery... In fact, the Celtics may even be stronger now than a year before.

[Kevin_Garnett_5]

Then why all this backlash? If he wasn't even that important to them? This is a business and there's no place for hard feelings.. The Celtics turned their back on Ray and agreed to trade him, and now he just did what's best for him. It's not like he was a franchise savior and the Celts begged him to come back because if not they were going down to the lottery... In fact, the Celtics may even be stronger now than a year before.
Because he took half the money to play for a team that he's even less important to, which happens to be the Celtics biggest rivals in the Eastern Conference. If he doesn't expect backlash after that then he's an idiot.

And I agree that the Celtics are better this year anyway, I don't even have anything against Ray. But blaming the Celtics for this is completely ridiculous. They offered him double what he's getting in Miami, if they "didn't want him" or "turned their back on him" they wouldn't have done that.

[guy]

I don't understand why people are wondering why he would be booed. He's joining a team that beat them the previous 2 years. I'm not sure that has ever happened with a player that relevant. Had he joined a team that wasn't a present rival like the Clippers or Pacers for example, I don't think anyone would boo him. They'd actually still cheer him given how disrespected he was by management. I think everyone knows its clearly understandable for him to leave. It's where he's going that's the issue.

[Salazaar]

Because he took half the money to play for a team that he's even less important to, which happens to be the Celtics biggest rivals in the Eastern Conference. If he doesn't expect backlash after that then he's an idiot.

And I agree that the Celtics are better this year anyway, I don't even have anything against Ray. But blaming the Celtics for this is completely ridiculous. They offered him double what he's getting in Miami, if they "didn't want him" or "turned their back on him" they wouldn't have done that.

Why do you think that?

Anyway, it's not like Ray has been a Celtic for life, players come and go, and he just happened to go to Miami because that's what's best for him. Plus, the Heat are no Lakers, and there has never actually been a true rivalry between the two teams in the past. It all just started 2 years ago because Miami suddenly became the best team in the East and the Celtics couldn't catch up. If he had gone to the Lakers, now that would've been going to a hated rival.

[kenny817]

Ray Allen is trash now...dude couldn't make a shot in the playoffs to save his life last year

Although...he was having that ankle injury to deal with

He's definitely a class act tho.

F the Celtics and F the Heat

[Kevin_Garnett_5]

Why do you think that?

Anyway, it's not like Ray has been a Celtic for life, players come and go, and he just happened to go to Miami because that's what's best for him. Plus, the Heat are no Lakers, and there has never actually been a true rivalry between the two teams in the past. It all just started 2 years ago because Miami suddenly became the best team in the East and the Celtics couldn't catch up. If he had gone to the Lakers, now that would've been going to a hated rival.
Because they just won the title.

:oldlol: Ask KG, Rondo and Pierce if it's been a "true rivalry" or not. Ray Allen played for the Celtics and lived in Boston, he knew the players nor fans like the Heat. He knew if he went to the Heat his former teammates and fans in Boston wouldn't be happy. There's no way he seriously thought for a second that there would be no backlash if he left to Miami for half the money.

[Salazaar]

Because they just won the title.

:oldlol: Ask KG, Rondo and Pierce if it's been a "true rivalry" or not. Ray Allen played for the Celtics and lived in Boston, he knew the players nor fans like the Heat. He knew if he went to the Heat his former teammates and fans in Boston wouldn't be happy. There's no way he seriously thought for a second that there would be no backlash if he left to Miami for half the money.

It's not all about the money, is it? He chose the best offer based on other factors and I bet he didn't give a crap about what the media are going to write about him.

[Kevin_Garnett_5]

It's not all about the money, is it? He chose the best offer based on other factors and I bet he didn't give a crap about what the media are going to write about him.
Alright, I have no problem. But don't sit here and act shocked that he's getting backlash from former teammates and fans.

[Salazaar]

Alright, I have no problem. But don't sit here and act shocked that he's getting backlash from former teammates and fans.

Nah, I'm just wondering why some people go way over the top with it, acting like it was a Decision Part 2 or something like that, totally trashing him etc. I can understand they may be upset, but c'mon now.

[Boston C's]

Boston fans are very loyal to their team, but they are just so ungrateful toward players who leave to go somewhere else.

The Celtics tried to trade Ray last season. So you're telling me he should show loyalty toward them even though they weren't showing loyalty toward him? :confusedshrug:

He honored his contract, and then left because he felt his job would be more secure in Miami. Boston fans should blame their organization for making Ray feel expandable.

This will rep when I can...btw ppl are talkin about the no trade clause when it was actually a trade kicker...huge difference there

with that said...ray dissapointed me with this statement...for a guy with so much class this was a classless statement (regarding the boo the team not me in a sense) I in no way blame ray for leaving as he was basically traded this yr and has been actively shopped for yrs...(yes boston fans he was actively shopped don't try and say he wasnt) but he dissapointed me with his comments...just dont talk about it and leave it at that

btw boston fans saying that he wasnt integral in our title run...get a clue if ray didn't play as huge as he did in the finals then we wouldnt have banner 17 dont discount all the huge games he has had for boston and solely focus on the negative ones...all of bostons big 3 has had shitty games in big situations from time to time so don't just point that ray failed...ray sacrificed the most in coming to boston..fulfilled his contract and did not disrupt the team at all during his stay...at least you can appreciate what he has done...however nobody should have a problem if boston boos ray when he first returns...i hope that we respect him at first but i doubt it

[Kevin_Garnett_5]

and has been actively shopped for yrs...(yes boston fans he was actively shopped don't try and say he wasnt) b

So you're saying the Celtics have been trying to get rid of him for years but nobody in the league wanted him, right? Because if he was being "actively shopped" for years, why wouldn't he have been traded?

There's a difference between being involved in trade discussions/rumors, and being actively shopped. He wasn't even involved in as many trade rumors as Rondo (the Celtics 2nd best player at worst) last season and he was the 4th best player on the team.

[Boston C's]

So you're saying the Celtics have been trying to get rid of him for years but nobody in the league wanted him, right? Because if he was being "actively shopped" for years, why wouldn't he have been traded?

There's a difference between being involved in trade discussions/rumors, and being actively shopped. He wasn't even involved in as many trade rumors as Rondo (the Celtics 2nd best player at worst) last season and he was the 4th best player on the team.

Well I would say trade discussions more and not get rid of him like you say...and ray was easily involved in the most trade discussions since hes been here...if the celtics found a good enough deal they would have traded ray most def...but some of the celtics fans on here act like pierce and k.g were actively shopped just as much as ray while k.g I don't remember one trade rumor for him and pierce was shopped but not even close as much as ray... I'm dissapointed that ray left but at the same time I understand why he left he felt disrespected plain and simple...i think doc rivers summed it up best...he said somethin like its tough to have something and have it taken away from you (his starting position)...whereas in miami its easier for him to swallow his pride since hes playing behind wade

[Kevin_Garnett_5]

Well I would say trade discussions more and not get rid of him like you say...and ray was easily involved in the most trade discussions since hes been here...if the celtics found a good enough deal they would have traded ray most def...but some of the celtics fans on here act like pierce and k.g were actively shopped just as much as ray while k.g I don't remember one trade rumor for him and pierce was shopped but not even close as much as ray... I'm dissapointed that ray left but at the same time I understand why he left he felt disrespected plain and simple...i think doc rivers summed it up best...he said somethin like its tough to have something and have it taken away from you (his starting position)...whereas in miami its easier for him to swallow his pride since hes playing behind wade
If they found a good enough deal they would've traded anybody. There was a trade rumor about KG going to the Hawks for Josh Smith about midway through the season last year, Doc was even asked about it before a game. Rondo was involved in more rumors last season than the entire Big 3 combined.

[bagelred]

[QUOTE]How did you deal with all the negativity of you leaving Boston because you chose to come here?

[Rockets(T-mac)]

I'm confused, what does he mean by not putting a good contract on the table? Didn't Boston offer him more than Miami? Did he leave because he didn't like Rondo?

[MaxFly]

Typical ingrate C's fans, Ray Allen carries that team on his back to their first title in 20 years (and it will be atleast another 20 years before they even get to the finals) and now they boo him. Typical scumbag dirt bostonian fanbase

Is this some sort of sarcasm?

[$LakerGold]

When it's Heat Vs. Celtics, i'll be cheering for Ray (Not for the heat) and wait for him to drop 3's on yall asses. Why can't yall understand that they treated him like shit?

[Noob Saibot]

hate to see this guy walk away from the game. Ray Allen wants to go out Brett Favre style. I feel ya Ray!

[stickfigure87]

boston traded him! it doesn't matter if he was offered a no trade clause, he was traded and felt it was time to go.

lakers were upset that odom left, but no one resented him for his decision to leave.

[TheMarkMadsen]

boston traded him! it doesn't matter if he was offered a no trade clause, he was traded and felt it was time to go.

lakers were upset that odom left, but no one resented him for his decision to leave.


When your fanbase has had a guy like Kobe Bryant for the past 16 years, you don't worry about a Lamar Odom leaving your team..

[poido123]

LOL at the heat fans coming on here saying Ray did the right thing...

Celtics offered him a bigger pay and a NO trade clause to stay with the team. Ray cried because his name was mentioned in trades, something every other player in the league goes through. Then chooses to go to the Heat, a team with already one traitor in it, so I guess one more doesnt hurt..

[All Net]

Yeah the fans are going to cheer him now..:lol

[JohnnySic]

No one cares what Ray Allen thinks. He was a free agent and took a new job. Move on.

[Derka]

When it's Heat Vs. Celtics, i'll be cheering for Ray (Not for the heat) and wait for him to drop 3's on yall asses. Why can't yall understand that they treated him like shit?

Because he wasn't treated like shit. In a prior post, I outlined the many ways in which the Boston Celtics altered their entire offensive and defensive game plan almost entirely to suit Ray's strengths and weaknesses. The fans here absolutely adored him.

Entertaining trade offers for players does not equate to treating them like shit. Avery Bradley morphing into a stud while Ray was hurt does not equate to Ray being treated like shit. These are instances of a player whining because he didn't get his way. Ray's certainly not the first to do it.

[Nick Young]

Boston fans booing the man who lead them to a title. Typical scumbag reaction from a city of scumbag sports fans.

[KayHaven]

1.He was on the trade block for 3 years including being traded last year...only to be called and told trade was off.

2.Boston went and got Jet before Ray even signed to Miami further limiting Rays role in Boston..

2a. Boston had several games in which Rondo went 40plus minutes...therefore there wasn't much minutes at Guard in Boston...especially if Ray Signed...A.B., Jet and Ray would be fighting for minutes...so its completely absurd people don't think Rays role is bigger in Miami.

3.to the people saying Ray shouldve said no comment...do u guys realize this is first real comment on the whole issue.....meanwhile in Boston...KG has deleted his number lmao..Doc talked for 2 weeks straight about basically why Ray MIGHT have been jealous and left...and Rondo goes on national TV and calls Ray "that guy" ...........but ray is suppose to take the high road right lol...

4.as ray states everyone that was close to him or watched his game knew it was time to leave Boston....including me...he's been my favorite player and i was begging him to leave Boston this off season...and thank God he did.

[Whoah10115]

It's funny that while people are remembering others forgetting that he was being shopped, that this guy called out David West for choosing to be a starter in Indiana, instead of taking less money to be a backup in Boston. He questioned his desire and accused him of being in it for the money.


So what exactly is he talking about when it comes to being treated like this? If he's been actively shopped since 2009 and that hurts him, then why call out someone else who made his own personal decision? A guy who would have gone into a season backing up KG and instead was a starter on a playoff team that he could make better, and he made more money.



I'm sorry, you can't be near the top of the totem pole in your ass like that and then whine off to Miami while complaining. No, he doesn't get any consideration for having been shopped. He simply felt a certain way and bitched out.


And clearly, going to Miami wasn't a Family decision until he decided he would leave Boston. I respect him going wherever his Family wants to be, but that is clearly not the aim in his decision. He's from LA. Call up Clipperland and best believe they'd take you. Call up wherever. You have your ring, don't be lame.


And don't be lame while talking this. It's disingenuous, at best.

[KayHaven]

It's funny that while people are remembering others forgetting that he was being shopped, that this guy called out David West for choosing to be a starter in Indiana, instead of taking less money to be a backup in Boston. He questioned his desire and accused him of being in it for the money.


So what exactly is he talking about when it comes to being treated like this? If he's been actively shopped since 2009 and that hurts him, then why call out someone else who made his own personal decision? A guy who would have gone into a season backing up KG and instead was a starter on a playoff team that he could make better, and he made more money.



I'm sorry, you can't be up the totem pole like that and then whine off to Miami while complaining. No, he doesn't get any consideration for having been shopped. He simply felt a certain way and bitched out.


And clearly, going to Miami wasn't a Family decision until he decided he would leave Boston. I respect him going wherever his Family wants to be, but that is clearly not the aim in his decision. He's from LA. Call up Clipperland and best believe they'd take you. Call up wherever. You have your ring, don't be lame.


And don't be lame while talking this. It's disingenuous, at best.

Ahhh clippers backed out on Ray....u do realize that...


And basically this comes down to 3 groups...

Boston fans who are pissed JUST because he went to Miami

Fans of other teams who are pissed JUST because he went to Miami

Fans of Ray Allen who are thrilled he left Boston and went anywhere...and glad it just happened to be Miami

[CelticBaller]

Boston fans booing the man who lead them to a title. Typical scumbag reaction from a city of scumbag sports fans.
no one cares what you think :oldlol:

[Dictator]

Boston fans booing the man who lead them to a title. Typical scumbag reaction from a city of scumbag sports fans.


:biggums:

[TheBigVeto]

he's not a lakers fan

LOL sure, and Hitler is not a Nazi.