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CavaliersFTW
10-21-2012, 10:40 PM
All the same perspective (no off angles, only direct shots), all scaled using the basketball diameter of 9.4 inches for scaling reference:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-rGGJ-hjlojU/UIJLYAPdzBI/AAAAAAAADrE/wa-NbN-L5QI/s800/%2528Wilt%2520Javale%2520Dwight%2520Scale%2529.jpg

Just Wilt and Dwight
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-YwniLjtS0Ec/UIJEoBRT9XI/AAAAAAAADqc/THIBUS5TOik/s800/%2528Wilt%2520Dwight%2520Scale%2529.jpg

Wilt and unibrow
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-zoDxe6WWpzc/UIMJAoVDQJI/AAAAAAAADsw/StuVunu35jE/s800/%2528Wilt%2520Davis%2520Scale%2529.jpg

Wilt and MJ
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--EuHVoOBmH0/UIMLXAPG8YI/AAAAAAAADs4/p6uLLKvYmZg/s800/%2528Wilt%2520MJt%2520Scale%2529.jpg

Wilt and Bron
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-xKaLrc66oZk/UIMkn8kuj_I/AAAAAAAADt0/gngtM8SuhZ8/s800/%2528Wilt%2520Lebron%2520Scale%2529.jpg

Super freaks;
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-mfWtzm1Jrtk/UIX7BigZbLI/AAAAAAAADwg/Nl3eIhrQH-M/s800/%2528Wilt%2520Dwight%2520Yao%2520McGee%2520Scale%2 529.jpg

Wilt and Shaq dunking on the same rim (was lucky to find 2 pics of the same perspective! - scaled using the rim diameter)
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-x8hhHMjoRTk/UIMuaZS_4YI/AAAAAAAADu8/ybJUykYwZts/s800/Wilt%2520and%2520Shaq%2520dunkin%2520on%2520the%25 20same%2520hoop.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-gfEcBGlA0Xw/UOpNbfj2wjI/AAAAAAAAD7M/n7xw1ju4tF4/s800/NBAscale.jpg
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-gfEcBGlA0Xw/UOpNbfj2wjI/AAAAAAAAD7M/n7xw1ju4tF4/s0/NBAscale.jpg

DStebb716
10-21-2012, 10:45 PM
i don't think these are scaled. wilt's head isn't THAT much bigger than everybody else's


also, it's funny that anthony davis can't easily palm a basketball

CavaliersFTW
10-21-2012, 10:50 PM
i don't think these are scaled. wilt's head isn't THAT much bigger than everybody else's


also, it's funny that anthony davis can't easily palm a basketball

When your big, your head is also big. All I did was match up the basketball diameters, thats how the scaling turned out, looks pretty accurate to me especially considering how well their wingspans appear to be in line with what was measured for them. Also, Dwight and Davis have small heads.
http://images.maxpreps.com/site_images/editorial/article/c/a/c/cac7af64-2e14-de11-82a6-001cc494dda6/6476530b-4114-de11-82a6-001cc494dda6_original.jpg

DStebb716
10-21-2012, 10:54 PM
When your big, your head is also big. All I did was match up the basketball diameters, thats how the scaling turned out, looks pretty accurate to me especially considering how well their wingspans appear to be in line with what was measured for them. Also, Dwight and Davis have small heads.
http://images.maxpreps.com/site_images/editorial/article/c/a/c/cac7af64-2e14-de11-82a6-001cc494dda6/6476530b-4114-de11-82a6-001cc494dda6_original.jpg


Well that looks like a contradiction if I've ever seen one

DStebb716
10-21-2012, 10:56 PM
http://images.maxpreps.com/site_images/editorial/article/c/a/c/cac7af64-2e14-de11-82a6-001cc494dda6/6476530b-4114-de11-82a6-001cc494dda6_original.jpg


Is that Nerlens Noel!?
http://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/nerlens.gif

tpols
10-21-2012, 10:59 PM
Is that Nerlens Noel!?
http://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/nerlens.gif
I think its rasheed wallace.

CavaliersFTW
10-21-2012, 11:00 PM
Well that looks like a contradiction if I've ever seen one
lol it's true though, Davis and Dwight are like exceptions to the rule and they aren't in the class of size as true 7 footers anyways - you look at Wilt interviews and such and his head looks extremely big compared to the people hes around, same with Shaq or Artis Gilmore - remember, those are examples of true 7 footers who were filled out and to me their heads look proportionate to their bodies in turn they look like they have large heads when standing next to smaller people. Guys like Davis and Dwight aren't even 7 footers, and I've noticed they have small looking heads relative to their body anyways

inclinerator
10-21-2012, 11:26 PM
nice can u do some more

j3lademaster
10-21-2012, 11:34 PM
I don't know that much about Wilt, but Cavsftw, was Wilt's wingspan measured from when he was a rookie? If so can it be possible his wingspan was 7'10+ or even 8' when his shoulders filled out?

CavaliersFTW
10-21-2012, 11:39 PM
I don't know that much about Wilt, but Cavsftw, was Wilt's wingspan measured from when he was a rookie? If so can it be possible his wingspan was 7'10+ or even 8' when his shoulders filled out?
He was like 27 years old when it was measured so that's his definitive wingspan - he definitely filled out more in bulk than seen in the pics though. He's something under 258lbs (his rookie weight) in those pics because that's the season before his NBA debut. He weighed up to 320lbs in the NBA (though he mostly played at 290 or under prior to being with the Lakers) and in the 1980's bulked up to 327 when working out with Arnie.

WillyJakk
10-22-2012, 01:34 AM
Now this is WAYYYYY more informative...GREAT THREAD and thanks! :applause:

Love the fact it shows how dominant Wilt was also due to his hands, easily able to grapefruit the ball on offense and defense.

@ the Nerlens Noel comment, lol it Sheed did look like him.

SyRyanYang
10-22-2012, 02:30 AM
He was like 27 years old when it was measured so that's his definitive wingspan - he definitely filled out more in bulk than seen in the pics though. He's something under 258lbs (his rookie weight) in those pics because that's the season before his NBA debut. He weighed up to 320lbs in the NBA (though he mostly played at 290 or under prior to being with the Lakers) and in the 1980's bulked up to 327 when working out with Arnie.
Bigger deltoids won't give you a bigger wingspan if that's what you are talking about

MiamiThrice
10-22-2012, 02:30 AM
****ing lol @ theShaq and Wilt dunking pic. You can see the rimg in Shaqs hand below the rim in the actual pic to try and fool people. Also Shaq is on the opposite side of the rim while Wilt is closer. Good effort though to try and hype Wilt up. Not to mention Shaq is hanging from it while Wilt is exerting himself upwards with his arms. LOL

CavaliersFTW
10-22-2012, 02:36 AM
Bigger deltoids won't give you a bigger wingspan if that's what you are talking about
All I noted was that he filled out more in weight, I did not connect it or try to make any implication whatsoever that filling out would giving him a potentially larger wingspan, in fact I quite clearly said 7-8 was his definitive wingspan due to having it measured at the age of ~27.

SyRyanYang
10-22-2012, 02:39 AM
All I noted was that he filled out more in weight, I did not connect it or try to make any implication whatsoever that filling out would giving him a potentially larger wingspan, in fact I quite clearly said 7-8 was his definitive wingspan due to having it measured at the age of ~27.
Yeah I know, I can't believe the guy you quoted actually said it and you didn't correct him.

CavaliersFTW
10-22-2012, 02:48 AM
****ing lol @ theShaq and Wilt dunking pic. You can see the rimg in Shaqs hand below the rim in the actual pic to try and fool people. Also Shaq is on the opposite side of the rim while Wilt is closer. Good effort though to try and hype Wilt up. Not to mention Shaq is hanging from it while Wilt is exerting himself upwards with his arms. LOL

Arrrghhh u got me I been tryna fool u all :oldlol: ... lol, seriously tho, thats what u think? For real, If the rim isn't quite right, good for you for noticing, because I didn't. Great observation, and by all means keep it in mind and alert everyone so that you don't think I'm "tricking" you... it's just a fun photoshop not a conspiracy theory

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-fsqnR7nVwUg/UITqX4BFTHI/AAAAAAAADvs/otIcxpO67yE/s640/Wilt%2520and%2520Shaq%2520dunkin%2520on%2520the%25 20same%2520hoop1.jpg
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-wqpqY1nu64I/UITqYOuMsNI/AAAAAAAADvw/saqI-P6bjI0/s640/Wilt%2520and%2520Shaq%2520dunkin%2520on%2520the%25 20same%2520hoop2.jpg
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-x8hhHMjoRTk/UIMuaZS_4YI/AAAAAAAADu8/ybJUykYwZts/s640/Wilt%2520and%2520Shaq%2520dunkin%2520on%2520the%25 20same%2520hoop.jpg
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Lekhf_GYds0/UITrgTxWFNI/AAAAAAAADv8/lnzd8pQeLzY/s640/Wilt%2520and%2520Shaq%2520dunkin%2520on%2520the%25 20same%2520hoop.jpg

All in all I'd say I did a pretty good job at even finding such extremely similar perspectives and then scaling them up. Thought it made for a fun pic, guess not tho guess it's just me trying to trick everyone :oldlol: :cheers:

CavaliersFTW
10-22-2012, 02:53 AM
Yeah I know, I can't believe the guy you quoted actually said it and you didn't correct him.
Ohhh I gotchya well, yah working out or filling out or whatever definitively will not expand anyones wingspan lol

jongib369
10-22-2012, 06:06 AM
All the same perspective (no off angles, only direct shots), all scaled using the basketball diameter of 9.4 inches for scaling reference:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-rGGJ-hjlojU/UIJLYAPdzBI/AAAAAAAADrE/wa-NbN-L5QI/s800/%2528Wilt%2520Javale%2520Dwight%2520Scale%2529.jpg

Just Wilt and Dwight
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-YwniLjtS0Ec/UIJEoBRT9XI/AAAAAAAADqc/THIBUS5TOik/s800/%2528Wilt%2520Dwight%2520Scale%2529.jpg

Wilt and unibrow
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-zoDxe6WWpzc/UIMJAoVDQJI/AAAAAAAADsw/StuVunu35jE/s800/%2528Wilt%2520Davis%2520Scale%2529.jpg

Wilt and MJ
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--EuHVoOBmH0/UIMLXAPG8YI/AAAAAAAADs4/p6uLLKvYmZg/s800/%2528Wilt%2520MJt%2520Scale%2529.jpg

Wilt and Bron
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-xKaLrc66oZk/UIMkn8kuj_I/AAAAAAAADt0/gngtM8SuhZ8/s800/%2528Wilt%2520Lebron%2520Scale%2529.jpg

Wilt and Shaq dunking on the same rim (was lucky to find 2 pics of the same perspective! - scaled using the rim diameter)
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-x8hhHMjoRTk/UIMuaZS_4YI/AAAAAAAADu8/ybJUykYwZts/s800/Wilt%2520and%2520Shaq%2520dunkin%2520on%2520the%25 20same%2520hoop.jpg


great job! love seeing photo's like these.

http://snownymph.smugmug.com/Other/2010-Mar-3-KU-KS-Basketball/i-WKzbDsG/0/L/IMG7359-L.jpg

I wonder why they say his wingspan is only 7'2? :confusedshrug:

sundizz
10-22-2012, 06:11 AM
Should of put Yao Ming in there as well.

CavaliersFTW
10-22-2012, 10:19 AM
Should of put Yao Ming in there as well.
Got a pic of him with his arms spread out and a ball in his hand? Can't make these pics out of thin air, gotta have a source (btw I've seen a pic of him with his arms spread out if that's what your thinking of but that isn't enough, it needs to be a pic with a basketball in it because that's how I get the scaling correct)

Pointguard
10-22-2012, 10:55 AM
Of the current crop, Anthony Davis is the quickest leaper and that's why he will have more blocked shots. But taking a pounding can affect his willingness to go after blocks.

Meticode
10-22-2012, 11:03 AM
Got a pic of him with his arms spread out and a ball in his hand? Can't make these pics out of thin air, gotta have a source (btw I've seen a pic of him with his arms spread out if that's what your thinking of but that isn't enough, it needs to be a pic with a basketball in it because that's how I get the scaling correct)
Closest thing I could find...

http://ericscards.com/si102802.jpg

CavaliersFTW
10-22-2012, 11:11 AM
Closest thing I could find...

http://ericscards.com/si102802.jpg
:applause: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: YESSSSSSSSS!!!!! Dude, awesome, I can't incorporate it until I get home from work tonight but that is a GREAT FIND! Any others would be appreciated from you or anyone else - that is exactly what all these pictures I've used need to be like;

*straight on shot (no odd angles)
*at least one basketball in one of their hands to get the scaling correct

repped. again thanks :cheers:

dunksby
10-22-2012, 11:22 AM
:applause: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: YESSSSSSSSS!!!!! Dude, awesome, I can't incorporate it until I get home from work tonight but that is a GREAT FIND! Any others would be appreciated from you or anyone else - that is exactly what all these pictures I've used need to be like;

*straight on shot (no odd angles)
*at least one basketball in one of their hands to get the scaling correct

repped. again thanks :cheers:
Can you do one of Durant as well? Here is the pic:







































http://blog.fansaloon.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/kd1.png

Meticode
10-22-2012, 11:24 AM
Yao's wingspan seems to be 7-5. I wish there was a picture of Manute Bol, he has the highest wingspan in NBA history at supposedly 8-6

Punpun
10-22-2012, 11:26 AM
Yao's wingspan seems to be 7-5. I wish there was a picture of Manute Bol, he has the highest wingspan in NBA history at supposedly 8-6

There is one, with Muggsy. You even got 3 balls and it's a straight angle if I remember correctly.

ripthekik
10-22-2012, 11:32 AM
Should of put Yao Ming in there as well.
was about to say this


edit: just saw the followup. cool, can't wait to see yao there

CavaliersFTW
10-22-2012, 11:33 AM
Can you do one of Durant as well? Here is the pic:



http://blog.fansaloon.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/kd1.png


sure, let me know if u find any pics with his arms spread out to showcase his 7-4.75 wingspan, that would be ideal but I know they aren't easy to find obviously not every player has posed like that for a photograph

CavaliersFTW
10-22-2012, 11:34 AM
Yao's wingspan seems to be 7-5. I wish there was a picture of Manute Bol, he has the highest wingspan in NBA history at supposedly 8-6
Yes, his wingspan was measured to be 7-5, and his height without shoes was measured at 7-5.75 :eek:

ripthekik
10-22-2012, 11:39 AM
Kevin Durant:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_li94pia6VK1qhwre7o1_1280.jpg

sundizz
10-22-2012, 11:43 AM
Wow great find of Durant.

I got Kobe but without basketball in the hand :facepalm

http://lakers.topbuzz.com/gallery/d/281849-1/Kobe+Bryant+spreads+his+arms+during+Lakers+Media+D ay+2010.JPG

CavaliersFTW
10-22-2012, 11:53 AM
Kevin Durant:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_li94pia6VK1qhwre7o1_1280.jpg
:rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

Okay one thing though, he seems very young in this pic, I'm worried he might not be fully grown - what year is this how old was he do u know?

eliteballer
10-22-2012, 01:02 PM
Dwight was measured out of high school he's grown:

http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/xmEWG.lhF_aPEF8e5z.jjg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD05Njg7cT04NTtzbT0xO3 c9NjMw/http://l.yimg.com/os/289/2012/10/02/Howard-Gasol-TimeWarnerCable100112-jpg_200839.jpg

CavaliersFTW
10-22-2012, 01:07 PM
http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/2012/images/02/03/chris-paul.jpg
I'm posting this so that I'll have the link later bc I found it while browsing here at work and will prob use it 2night with the new Durant / Yao images for a sense of scale seeing as how CP3 is no more than the size of a typical person on the street (5-11.75)

CavaliersFTW
10-22-2012, 01:10 PM
Dwight was measured out of high school he's grown:

http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/xmEWG.lhF_aPEF8e5z.jjg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD05Njg7cT04NTtzbT0xO3 c9NjMw/http://l.yimg.com/os/289/2012/10/02/Howard-Gasol-TimeWarnerCable100112-jpg_200839.jpg
That maybe true it may not be, for images of this nature I refuse to use acknowlege speculation though. Only data that has actually been collected and recorded has any merit being used to make a scale chart (specifically, the only thing affected is their height appearance seeing as how the basketballs are what keeps their overall proportions grounded to reality) - if you find more recent measurements that changes his old data let me know, I'm open to make changes and I don't doubt some players may have grown slightly, I just won't change it unless there is solid data though

ILLsmak
10-22-2012, 01:13 PM
keep in mind a lot of the pictures have players without arms fully extended.

-Smak

Meticode
10-22-2012, 01:26 PM
There is one, with Muggsy. You even got 3 balls and it's a straight angle if I remember correctly.
I don't see the point of scaling the picture if his arms aren't spread out? It defeats the purpose of comparison.

CavaliersFTW
10-22-2012, 10:04 PM
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-mfWtzm1Jrtk/UIX7BigZbLI/AAAAAAAADwg/Nl3eIhrQH-M/s800/%2528Wilt%2520Dwight%2520Yao%2520McGee%2520Scale%2 529.jpg

4 super freaks... Yao has a really big head lol

IGotACoolStory
10-22-2012, 10:13 PM
Mamadou Ndiaye? Rudy Gobert?

jongib369
10-22-2012, 10:47 PM
BeeJay Anya, 7'9 wingspan

http://snyhoops.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/2011-06-149520-48-47.jpg


http://thinkful.net/post/6747764278/16-year-old-basketball-players-arms-stretch-7-feet-9

Psileas
10-22-2012, 11:01 PM
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-mfWtzm1Jrtk/UIX7BigZbLI/AAAAAAAADwg/Nl3eIhrQH-M/s800/%2528Wilt%2520Dwight%2520Yao%2520McGee%2520Scale%2 529.jpg

4 super freaks... Yao has a really big head lol

IMO, height to the shoulder is more important than actual height when it comes to basketball. It's interesting how much closer to Yao Wilt (and others) come when we measure shoulder height. So, add this to the fact that Yao has a small wingspan / height ratio (due to his big head).

CavaliersFTW
10-22-2012, 11:07 PM
IMO, height to the shoulder is more important than actual height when it comes to basketball. It's interesting how much closer to Yao Wilt (and others) come when we measure shoulder height. So, add this to the fact that Yao has a small wingspan / height ratio (due to his big head).
True this is why 6-10+ Bosh isn't as effectively "tall" a player as 6-9 Dwight. Dwight has more massive body, taller shoulders, longer reach, etc - all the right tools of a player bigger and taller than the height to the tip of his head would indicate. He's effectively got a big mans frame, where as long slender built Bosh with his long neck is visibly a smaller player than Dwight despite his greater height to the top of his head

Alonzo Magic
10-22-2012, 11:26 PM
Nice thread man.

CavaliersFTW
11-17-2012, 07:34 PM
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-UG71ymm0odI/UKg-pL-QmBI/AAAAAAAADzk/OfMpnXaEz3M/s800/Wilt%2520scale%2520with%2520knicks6.jpg
(Full Size link: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-UG71ymm0odI/UKg-pL-QmBI/AAAAAAAADzk/OfMpnXaEz3M/s0/Wilt%2520scale%2520with%2520knicks6.jpg )

Perhaps the best indication of Wilt's size thus far

eliteballer
11-17-2012, 07:55 PM
What a ridiculous picture...Chandler is damn near the same height as Wilt. That pic makes him look like Yao.

abuC
11-17-2012, 07:58 PM
Your scaling is off, it's evident with Yao being in the picture. The gap between Yao and Wilt should be the same as the one between Wilt and Dwight, yet it's not.

The top of Wilt's head is past Yao's eyebrows, yet the top of Dwight's head doesn't reach Wilts.

abuC
11-17-2012, 08:01 PM
What someone 7"1 actually looks like next to Yao -

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/NBA7902/NBA%20Height%20Comparison/Shaq%20Yao%20and%20Kevin%20Garnett/3007222.jpg


Top of his head doesn't even reach Yao's eyebrows, but the top of Wilt's head is past them? :rolleyes:

CavaliersFTW
11-17-2012, 08:07 PM
What someone 7"1 actually looks like next to Yao -

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/NBA7902/NBA%20Height%20Comparison/Shaq%20Yao%20and%20Kevin%20Garnett/3007222.jpg


Top of his head doesn't even reach Yao's eyebrows, but the top of Wilt's head is past them? :rolleyes:
The top of shaqs head is above Yaos eyebrows - open it up and check in photoshop yourself :lol thanks for further verification that my images have been accurately scaled :cheers:

**EDIT**

I will also add that:

Tilting your head etc even slightly, effects how high or low your eyes/nose/hairline etc all will appear. But the line of the height to the top of your head remains relatively consistent - this is not an exact science - if you dont want to accept the images as accurate by all means dont. The basketballs are what is being used as the control for scale accuracy

abuC
11-17-2012, 08:10 PM
The top of shaqs head is above Yaos eyebrows - open it up and check in photoshop yourself :lol thanks for further verification that my images have been accurately scaled :cheers:


Yao is LEANING to the side, your scaling is off and Wilts head is damn near in the middle of Yao's forehead.


Please explain to me why the gap between Dwight and Wilt is larger than the one between Yao and Wilt.

CavaliersFTW
11-17-2012, 08:14 PM
Yao is LEANING to the side, your scaling is off and Wilts head is damn near in the middle of Yao's forehead.


Please explain to me why the gap between Dwight and Wilt is larger than the one between Yao and Wilt.
The gap between Yao and Wilt is actually slightly larger than the one between Dwight and Wilt - open it up in photoshop yourself and check yourself - count the pixels if you want for crying out loud :lol your making a false accusation

*EDIT* here since I know you won't do it

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-LZRS9CTzvVk/UKgpKQ4n12I/AAAAAAAADyM/JZpHi6dq8PE/s400/gap2.jpghttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-4bgE-fKNpUc/UKgpKezP6kI/AAAAAAAADyQ/7f6FDoOR5yE/s400/Gap1.jpg

These are the scale bars extrapolated from slicing the diameter of the basketball which is used as a consistent control source for scale (hence there is always at least one basketball in every source image)... longest bar = 9.4", then 7.05", then 5.875", then 4.7", then 2.35", then 1.175"

The gap between Dwights head and Wilt's is less than Wilt's to Yao's. Even taking Yao's longer hair into consideration, the gap is definitely smaller between Dwight and Wilt vs Wilt and Yao.

Got any more false accusations? P.S. your overthinking this if you think i'm tampering with the scaling... I'm using the basketballs to get the scaling - all im doing is literally making sure the basketball in every pic is identical in size (NOTE pictures MUST also be of identical perspective to accomplish this!) - if Wilt looks like Yao to you than boo frickity hoo, maybe he was closer to Yao in stature than he was to your typical NBA player - maybe that explains his deceptively heavy playing weight, and his incredibly long armspan, and why players he plays against on film look so small etc - no? I know what the real problem is - the real problem is you love trolling about Wilt and underrating him so anytime he is made to look extraordinary you wish him to be ordinary instead. There wasn't anything "ordinary" about Wilt - the sooner you accept this the sooner you can move on

abuC
11-17-2012, 08:15 PM
What a ridiculous picture...Chandler is damn near the same height as Wilt. That pic makes him look like Yao.


It really does too :roll:


http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/3888/west3ys.png

abuC
11-17-2012, 08:57 PM
The gap between Yao and Wilt is actually slightly larger than the one between Dwight and Wilt - open it up in photoshop yourself and check yourself - count the pixels if you want for crying out loud :lol your making a false accusation

*EDIT* here since I know you won't do it

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-LZRS9CTzvVk/UKgpKQ4n12I/AAAAAAAADyM/JZpHi6dq8PE/s400/gap2.jpghttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-4bgE-fKNpUc/UKgpKezP6kI/AAAAAAAADyQ/7f6FDoOR5yE/s400/Gap1.jpg

These are the scale bars extrapolated from slicing the diameter of the basketball which is used as a consistent control source for scale (hence there is always at least one basketball in every source image)... longest bar = 9.4", then 7.05", then 5.875", then 4.7", then 2.35", then 1.175"

The gap between Dwights head and Wilt's is less than Wilt's to Yao's. Even taking Yao's longer hair into consideration, the gap is definitely smaller between Dwight and Wilt vs Wilt and Yao.

Got any more false accusations? P.S. your overthinking this if you think i'm tampering with the scaling... I'm using the basketballs to get the scaling - all im doing is literally making sure the basketball in every pic is identical in size - if Wilt looks like Yao to you than boo frickity hoo, maybe he was closer to Yao in stature than he was to your typical NBA player - maybe that explains his deceptively heavy playing weight, and his incredibly long armspan, and why players he plays against on film look so small etc - no? I know what the real problem is - the real problem is you love trolling about Wilt and underrating him so anytime he is made to look extraordinary you wish him to be ordinary instead. There wasn't anything "ordinary" about him though.


You cannot be serious, your scale bars are measured using the top of Yao's hair....unreal, you are so biased and dishonest that it's not even funny anymore. It's a 4 inch difference, Wilt's head is in the middle of Yao's forhead, Dwight's head is below Wilt's eyebrows. You shave the hair off Yao's head and it would look like a 2" difference between him and Wilt.

http://i.imgur.com/GDtHq.jpg

That is what the scale bars should actually represent, using Yao's hair? Pathetic, he'd be 7"8 if you actually took into account his hair.


Also -


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-hS4oYjAJVdU/UKgaCdbqRGI/AAAAAAAADxs/1Cv6sJu2-eE/s800/Wilt%2520scale%2520with%2520knicks4.jpg
(Full Size link: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-hS4oYjAJVdU/UKgaCdbqRGI/AAAAAAAADxs/1Cv6sJu2-eE/s0/Wilt%2520scale%2520with%2520knicks4.jpg )

Perhaps the best indication of Wilt's size thus far


Your scaling is horrible, and is always done to make Wilt look larger than life. In your picture, the top of Amare's head doesn't even make it to Wilt's nose, like we don't have pics of Amare with someone who is exactly the same height as Wilt (7"1 with no shoes) -

http://valleyofthesuns.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/nba_g_oneal_stoudemire_576.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-RxMTbMY2uiE/UDRO0tVI-LI/AAAAAAAAOXc/o8oqq7DChoQ/s1600/nba_a_amare-shaq01_576.jpg

And nope, Wilt wasn't close to Yao in height -

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/NBA7902/NBA%20Height%20Comparison/patwiltshaqhe12.jpg

CavaliersFTW
11-17-2012, 09:02 PM
What a ridiculous picture...Chandler is damn near the same height as Wilt. That pic makes him look like Yao.
Well then let's solve this problem:

We know that the images were scaled using the diameter of a basketball as the control.

So that means;
*Carmelo Anthony could be holding an oversized basketball...

or
*Wilt Chamberlain could holding 2 sets of identically undersized basketballs on 2 separate occasions (separated by 20 years)

or
*Wilt was bigger than you thought.

What is more likely?

CavaliersFTW
11-17-2012, 09:03 PM
You cannot be serious, your scale bars are measured using the top of Yao's hair....unreal, you are so biased and dishonest that it's not even funny anymore. It's a 4 inch difference, Wilt's head is in the middle of Yao's forhead, Dwight's head is below Wilt's eyebrows. You shave the hair off Yao's head and it would look like a 2" difference between him and Wilt.

http://i.imgur.com/GDtHq.jpg

That is what the scale bars should actually represent, using Yao's hair? Pathetic, he'd be 7"8 if you actually took into account his hair.


Also -




Your scaling is horrible, and is always done to make Wilt look larger than life. In your picture, the top of Amare's head doesn't even make it to Wilt's nose, like we don't have pics of Amare with someone who is exactly the same height as Wilt (7"1 with no shoes) -

http://valleyofthesuns.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/nba_g_oneal_stoudemire_576.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-RxMTbMY2uiE/UDRO0tVI-LI/AAAAAAAAOXc/o8oqq7DChoQ/s1600/nba_a_amare-shaq01_576.jpg

And nope, Wilt wasn't close to Yao in height -

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/NBA7902/NBA%20Height%20Comparison/patwiltshaqhe12.jpg
Shaq is closer to the camera in the pic you posted and he's wearing incredibly thick shoes lol I'm not going to get in an argument with you - if you'd like to dismiss the pics go for it no one is forcing you to agree with them - but I'll say it once more - they are scaled images of identical perspective using the basketball as the ground. Even if you nudge Yao up the equivilant of an inch - his SCALE stays the same - would you like me to do that? move him up an inch? Your getting incredibly angry over something extremely trivial :lol

abuC
11-17-2012, 09:04 PM
Well then let's solve this problem:

We know that the images were scaled using the diameter of a basketball as the control.

So that means;
*Carmelo Anthony could be holding an oversized basketball...

or
*Wilt Chamberlain could holding 2 sets of identically undersized basketballs on 2 separate occasions (separated by 20 years)

or
*Wilt was bigger than you thought.

What is more likely?


Oh, so now Wilt is getting bigger.....:rolleyes:

abuC
11-17-2012, 09:05 PM
Shaq is closer to the camera in the pic you posted lol nice try though


That never mattered before when you posted pictures of Bill Russell being closer to the camera than Dwight, why does it matter now?

CavaliersFTW
11-17-2012, 09:11 PM
Oh, so now Wilt is getting bigger.....:rolleyes:
How is he "getting bigger"?

Psileas
11-17-2012, 10:22 PM
Shaq is closer to the camera in the pic you posted and he's wearing incredibly thick shoes lol I'm not going to get in an argument with you - if you'd like to dismiss the pics go for it no one is forcing you to agree with them - but I'll say it once more - they are scaled images of identical perspective using the basketball as the ground. Even if you nudge Yao up the equivilant of an inch - his SCALE stays the same - would you like me to do that? move him up an inch? Your getting incredibly angry over something extremely trivial :lol

Ι had seen a video of this moment depicted here, I think from an NBA Action episode taken from 1992-93 season (Shaq's rookie season). Maybe someone would have it, because, apart from the Wilt-Shaq height debate, it seems interesting how small Ewing appears. I know he wasn't a real 7-footer, but he must be leaning here.

tommyhtc
11-17-2012, 10:39 PM
even if chandler is a 6'11 barefoot, Wilt doesn't have a 4 inch advantage on him( as indicated by your picture)

CavaliersFTW
11-17-2012, 10:44 PM
even if chandler is a 6'11 barefoot, Wilt doesn't have a 4 inch advantage on him( as indicated by your picture)
there isn't a 4 inch advantage in the image, it is about 2 which is approximately what it should be at - you guys are complaining about and exaggerating the differences more than it actually is. So someone scales Wilt next to some modern players and he looks a bit abnormally big - your surprised? Why the hell would his peers talk about him like an unrivaled freak if he was just some run of the mill big?

tommyhtc
11-18-2012, 12:32 AM
there isn't a 4 inch advantage in the image, it is about 2 which is approximately what it should be at - you guys are complaining about and exaggerating the differences more than it actually is. So someone scales Wilt next to some modern players and he looks a bit abnormally big - your surprised? Why the hell would his peers talk about him like an unrivaled freak if he was just some run of the mill big?
dude calm down, don't assume I'm an anti-wilt guy just because I'm surprised by the difference I see in the picture.
I don't think the picture you used with wilt with a headband is accurate, look at his posture.

Deuce Bigalow
11-18-2012, 12:57 AM
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/NBA7902/NBA%20Height%20Comparison/patwiltshaqhe12.jpg
:lol

OP destroyed with facts again, like every other Wilt historian.

tommyhtc
11-18-2012, 01:15 AM
:lol

OP destroyed with facts again, like every other Wilt historian.
both wilt and shaq have bad posture, but shaq is standing closer to the camera

eliteballer
11-18-2012, 02:54 AM
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-UG71ymm0odI/UKg-pL-QmBI/AAAAAAAADzk/OfMpnXaEz3M/s800/Wilt%2520scale%2520with%2520knicks6.jpg
(Full Size link: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-UG71ymm0odI/UKg-pL-QmBI/AAAAAAAADzk/OfMpnXaEz3M/s0/Wilt%2520scale%2520with%2520knicks6.jpg )

Perhaps the best indication of Wilt's size thus far

I can't stop laughing at this, it's Wilt Ming!

abuC
11-18-2012, 03:49 AM
there isn't a 4 inch advantage in the image, it is about 2 which is approximately what it should be at - you guys are complaining about and exaggerating the differences more than it actually is. So someone scales Wilt next to some modern players and he looks a bit abnormally big - your surprised? Why the hell would his peers talk about him like an unrivaled freak if he was just some run of the mill big?


How about you think about this logically for once, Tyson is 6'11" and half without shoes, Amare was 6"8 and a half without shoes. And no, there isn't a 2" difference between Tyson and Wilt, there's a 1.5" difference between them without shoes, however in your scaled picture the gap between them is actually the same as the one between Amare and Tyson 3". I lined up and overlayed the gap in PS, you have basically scaled Wilt to 7"3 or 7"4 in shoes.

Here you go
http://www.abload.de/img/wilt-scale-with-knickk6ei0.png

Blue and green are exactly the same size, red is exactly 1 pixel bigger than the gap between Amare and Tyson. Your picture is showing a 3" and some change difference between 7"0 1/2 (in shoes) Tyson and Wilt, which makes Wilt 7"4 and change in your scaled pic.

Hittin_Shots
11-18-2012, 10:34 AM
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/NBA7902/NBA%20Height%20Comparison/patwiltshaqhe12.jpg

Shaq is clearly both closer to the camera and slightly on his toes... As well as basketball shoes vs wilts shoes..

eliteballer
11-18-2012, 10:52 AM
Shaq is clearly both closer to the camera and slightly on his toes... As well as basketball shoes vs wilts shoes..

They are both raising one foot and Wilt is wearing what are probably well heeled dress shoes..

eliteballer
11-18-2012, 11:02 AM
http://www2.hawaii.edu/~kobata/celticspage2/russwilt.jpg

TheFan
11-18-2012, 02:28 PM
O-M-G...

hide this thread before its too late... JLauber will have a triple spinning orgasm if he finds this... you are advised.. you are fully responsible of what may happen.

EDIT: by the way it was a JOKE... nothing against JLauber, knowledgeable poster... nothing but respect for the guy.... it was a joke.

CavaliersFTW
01-07-2013, 12:30 AM
Okay let's have another go at this since eliteballer had a shit fit last time :lol

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-gfEcBGlA0Xw/UOpNbfj2wjI/AAAAAAAAD7M/n7xw1ju4tF4/s800/NBAscale.jpg
(Full Size Link)
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-gfEcBGlA0Xw/UOpNbfj2wjI/AAAAAAAAD7M/n7xw1ju4tF4/s0/NBAscale.jpg

This time I used two methods of scaling to try and get everything scaled correctly - basketball diameter AND a ground up scale - and attempted to place everyone via the centerline plane of their bodies (generally the central point between both feet which is necessary for pics where a players feet appears are not on a flat plane), and also I bumped most of them down to what would be the estimated plane of their "bare feet" (so everyone with modern shoes should also be getting cut off approximately another inch, chucks about 1/4-1/2"). Their heights actually lined up almost perfectly with what draftexpress claimed was their barefoot height, with only a few exceptions (CP3, Kobe and Melo came out a bit too tall - about 1/2 inches too tall for all of them, they must have been slightly closer to the camera in the pic for the team U.S.A. photo or had disproportionately thicker shoes)

bumpyknucks
01-07-2013, 12:54 AM
Cool thread, interesting to see, especially the first wingspan pictures. Thanks for doing it.

CavaliersFTW
01-09-2013, 11:54 PM
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-pIInIGtX6Ug/UO45mn6D3oI/AAAAAAAAD9U/Wymp3tG_aro/s800/NBA%2520Big%2520men%2520scale.jpg

GucciBandana
01-19-2013, 03:54 AM
nice pics, but do you have proof that Wilt is over 7'1" barefeet?

btw Pre draft measurements might be true at the time, but not necessarily true today, players might grow 1 inch or so since the draft, specially high school players. also measurements around or before early 2000's seems not as organized, today's measurements would measure both height with or without shoes, but back then some of the measurements or missing, could be mixed up or something.

Dwight Howard is the same height as Chris Bosh on Team USA, he's around 6'11" with shoes on, makes him taller than his predraft measurements.

when you put pics of players together, make sure the camera angle and posture are all similar, or else it could make the comparison inaccurate, I made this photo to compare standing reaches back then:

http://i2.hoopchina.com.cn/blogfile/201301/19/135858277934784.JPG

my conclusion was Yao has the highest standing reach, 295+(over 9'8"), then Mutombo close to 9'8", Chandler and McGee were measured. Gasol and Shaq both around 9'6.5"-9'7".

GucciBandana
01-19-2013, 04:10 AM
Yao's wingspan seems to be 7-5. I wish there was a picture of Manute Bol, he has the highest wingspan in NBA history at supposedly 8-6

I think Manute Bol's number was a lie, I really doubt he has the longest wingspan in NBA, maybe one of the longest arms or highest standing reach, but in term of wingspan, I think its pretty obvious Mark Eaton beats him, I doubt Bol's wingspan is much longer than his height.

Bol:
http://i1.hoopchina.com.cn/blogfile/201202/18/132956603917586.jpg

http://i1.hoopchina.com.cn/blogfile/201202/18/132956604057701.jpg

Eaton:
http://i1.hoopchina.com.cn/blogfile/201202/18/132956705099127.gif

Wilt:
http://i1.hoopchina.com.cn/blogfile/201202/18/132956603959063.jpg

John Riek:
http://i1.hoopchina.com.cn/blogfile/201202/18/132956603745789.jpg

Dwight in high school:
http://i3.hoopchina.com.cn/blogfile/201202/18/13295660367468.jpg

GucciBandana
01-19-2013, 04:30 AM
scaling basketball is a nice way of comparing wingspan, but still, sometimes depends on the player's posture, he might be holding the basketballs a little closer or farther away from the camera, causing source of errors

abuC
01-19-2013, 05:33 AM
scaling basketball is a nice way of comparing wingspan, but still, sometimes depends on the player's posture, he might be holding the basketballs a little closer or farther away from the camera, causing source of errors


Don't even bother with Cavs, look at how dishonest he is in his approach, he's using a picture of Dwight from the Lakers in his last scaled image, why? Because Dwight was the tallest player on Team USA when he was standing right next to Chris Bosh, yet the picture he put in place has him shorter than Bosh. Even though we have a picture of them standing with each other.

He doesn't even believe Dwight could have grown an inch after the draft, despite the fact the Magic have it in writing that he did.

GucciBandana
01-19-2013, 05:47 AM
Don't even bother with Cavs, look at how dishonest he is in his approach, he's using a picture of Dwight from the Lakers in his last scaled image, why? Because Dwight was the tallest player on Team USA when he was standing right next to Chris Bosh, yet the picture he put in place has him shorter than Bosh. Even though we have a picture of them standing with each other.

He doesn't even believe Dwight could have grown an inch after the draft, despite the fact the Magic have it in writing that he did.

yea I thought this was a really interesting topic, then when I saw he cut off Dwight's pic jus to put a new one to make him shorter, I LOLed.

I think Dwight is around the same height as most 6'11" NBA players listed.

necya
01-19-2013, 07:56 AM
Well that looks like a contradiction if I've ever seen one

Dwight has nothing in his head.

CavaliersFTW
01-19-2013, 12:32 PM
Don't even bother with Cavs, look at how dishonest he is in his approach, he's using a picture of Dwight from the Lakers in his last scaled image, why? Because Dwight was the tallest player on Team USA when he was standing right next to Chris Bosh, yet the picture he put in place has him shorter than Bosh. Even though we have a picture of them standing with each other.

He doesn't even believe Dwight could have grown an inch after the draft, despite the fact the Magic have it in writing that he did.
Gee I can't do anything to get by your supreme intellect abuC your so smart u got me all figured out. My intent was nothing but malicious lies and deceit :lol

Now in an alternate explanation (abuC, you may call this a "lie" if you wish, since your so far above my levels of honesty) I used the pic of Lakers Dwight because in the team U.S.A. photo Dwight's legs are 70% missing below the shorts and most importantly his posture in the image I swapped him with I just felt was appropriate for the text. You guys are straight up hilarious, complaining I cropped the team U.S.A. version of him out because I wanted him to "look shorter" and that I'm just in denial about his size or something :roll: Do you guys not think I would have had enough IQ to line up the Laker version so that he was IDENTICAL in scale to the cropped team U.S.A. version in that image? I made this image recently:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Y71ADdkjr9U/UPEFDafIVvI/AAAAAAAAD-0/J2S1f7DskEw/s800/Wilt%2520and%2520Dwight.jpg

But I'm sure abuC will find a pixel wrong with it or something and suggest it was a deliberate fabrication on my part to leave out said pixels or w/e in order to push forward a lie :lol

P.S. Dwight is shorter than Chris Bosh in the team U.S.A. photo... P.S. the height to the top of his head is the SAME in the Lakers version as the 2008 photo.... P.S. his shoulders and posture in the image I swapped him with makes him actually appear even bigger and more imposing. In other words your an idiot for even trying to complain and bring it up :roll:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-H3sPwquRE0o/UPrMg8CtvjI/AAAAAAAAD_0/_gaJgIsaVtQ/s800/abuCisanidiot.jpg

Scoooter
01-19-2013, 01:59 PM
Dwight isn't shorter than Bosh in that photo. Bosh has big hair, but it clearly looks like the top of Dwight's head is higher than where the top of Bosh's would be. Not to mention how much higher his shoulders are. Dwight is even slouching a little.

Lebron23
01-19-2013, 02:18 PM
http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Dwight-Howard-Kareem.jpg

Full Body: http://kareemabduljabbar.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/kajdwighthoward.jpg

Gotterdammerung
01-19-2013, 03:01 PM
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-pIInIGtX6Ug/UO45mn6D3oI/AAAAAAAAD9U/Wymp3tG_aro/s800/NBA%2520Big%2520men%2520scale.jpg
Do you have a larger version of this one?

Good work, if I haven't said so yet. :cheers:

CavaliersFTW
01-19-2013, 05:49 PM
Do you have a larger version of this one?

Good work, if I haven't said so yet. :cheers:
sure here you go, I'm glad someone likes them
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-pIInIGtX6Ug/UO45mn6D3oI/AAAAAAAAD9U/Wymp3tG_aro/s0/NBA%2520Big%2520men%2520scale.jpg

KG215
01-19-2013, 06:41 PM
CavsFTW, have you done anything like this with David Robinson, Ewing, and Mutombo? I've heard/read how big and imposing Robinson looked; more-so than one realized, especially in person. It'd be interesting to see how legit Mutombo's 7'2" is/was, too.

CavaliersFTW
01-19-2013, 06:50 PM
CavsFTW, have you done anything like this with David Robinson, Ewing, and Mutombo? I've heard/read how big and imposing Robinson looked; more-so than one realized, especially in person. It'd be interesting to see how legit Mutombo's 7'2" is/was, too.
Sure i'll hunt for the pics that meet the correct criteria for scaling purposes and see if I can do one of those guys - also gonna find Nate Thurmond/Willis Reed/etc and see how they scale up to these other all-time centers

KG215
01-19-2013, 07:01 PM
Sure i'll hunt for the pics that meet the correct criteria for scaling purposes and see if I can do one of those guys - also gonna find Nate Thurmond/Willis Reed/etc and see how they scale up to these other all-time centers
Thanks. Just thought it'd be interesting to see some of the great centers from the 90's compared size wise against some of older era guys. Mainly Wilt and Kareem (Russell too, so people can maybe see he's not quite as undersized as we thought, he'd be listed at 6'11" in today's game) but I've read Thurmond was an animal and had a lot of length.

Lebron23
01-19-2013, 07:12 PM
Tyson Chandler is over 7 feet tall.

http://imgc.allpostersimages.com/images/P-473-488-90/58/5868/KCOSG00Z/posters/dallas-mavericks-tyson-chandler-dirk-nowitzki-with-the-mvp-championship-trophies.jpg

http://www.g3graphx.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/31.jpg

Dirk is 6'11' Or 6'11 1/2" without shoes.

CavaliersFTW
01-19-2013, 07:22 PM
Tyson Chandler is over 7 feet tall.

http://imgc.allpostersimages.com/images/P-473-488-90/58/5868/KCOSG00Z/posters/dallas-mavericks-tyson-chandler-dirk-nowitzki-with-the-mvp-championship-trophies.jpg

http://www.g3graphx.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/31.jpg

Dirk is 6'11' Or 6'11 1/2" without shoes.
Chandler is 6-11.5 w/o shoes.

Also I've found that "media day" shots (ESPECIALLY if their shoes aren't in the frame) are typically distorted, because the camera is "too close" to the subjects. The best shots for scaling purposes are rather distant shots with a 35-50mm focal length for the least amount of distortion though up to 400mm seems to work if there's only one subject. If there are multiple subjects in a frame you need to see all of the subjects feet to see where they are standing in relation to another player - there's actually a lot of optical things that need to fall into place to be able to legitimately say player A. is taller/larger than player B. It's very difficult to find a shot framed where multiple players are standing perfectly next to each other free of image/optics distorition - though some can be found like the team U.S.A. photo which was a 35mm lens taken from far away and all the players were lined up on the same plane - basically the perfect conditions for a minimal distortion way of seeing how big those guys are in relation to each other.

KG215
01-19-2013, 08:16 PM
Why do people not understand that players in Wilt and Russell's era were listed by their actual heights, not in-shoes height? Not that it would make much of a difference with the shoes they were wearing. I remember reading something about how Russell was very comparable size and length wise to Dwight Howard despite Howard being listed at 6'11" and Russell at 6'9". Not sure why people are surprised at how much bigger Wilt looks compared to him given that Wilt is 7'1" and change without shoes and Dwight is 6'9" without shoes.

As for Dirk, wasn't he measured at 6'10" without shoes? That'd easily explain why the 6'11.5" Chandler clearly looks taller than the 6'10" Dirk. And, obviously, means he's not easily over 7'0". In shoes, sure, but not without.

La Frescobaldi
01-19-2013, 10:07 PM
Cavs summarily destroys "Chamberlain Played in a Short Era Myth."

Pinkhearts
01-20-2013, 12:03 AM
Well this is nothing new to those knowledgeable about how NBA lists heights now.

LOL at those struggling to maintain the image of their heroes being taller and bigger than everyone else.

Only issue I have is that some of the players have obviously grown taller than what they were measured pre-draft. Durant clearly has grown an inch or more and Dwight probably has gained about an inch since being drafted. It's very common for an 18 year old to grow another inch before her reaches 21 you know.

played0ut
07-04-2014, 08:42 PM
This is amazing. I was always looking for one with 'all' the great/tallest centres in NBA history in one picture. (including manute bol, yao, mutumbo etc). Do you have one?




It would be 'the' height chart of NBA centers for reference on the internet.

Akrazotile
07-04-2014, 09:05 PM
i don't think these are scaled. wilt's head isn't THAT much bigger than everybody else's


also, it's funny that anthony davis can't easily palm a basketball


What do you mean its funny?


Funny how?

La Frescobaldi
07-04-2014, 09:19 PM
nice pics, but do you have proof that Wilt is over 7'1" barefeet?

btw Pre draft measurements might be true at the time, but not necessarily true today, players might grow 1 inch or so since the draft, specially high school players. also measurements around or before early 2000's seems not as organized, today's measurements would measure both height with or without shoes, but back then some of the measurements or missing, could be mixed up or something.

Dwight Howard is the same height as Chris Bosh on Team USA, he's around 6'11" with shoes on, makes him taller than his predraft measurements.

when you put pics of players together, make sure the camera angle and posture are all similar, or else it could make the comparison inaccurate, I made this photo to compare standing reaches back then:

http://i2.hoopchina.com.cn/blogfile/201301/19/135858277934784.JPG

my conclusion was Yao has the highest standing reach, 295+(over 9'8"), then Mutombo close to 9'8", Chandler and McGee were measured. Gasol and Shaq both around 9'6.5"-9'7".
I don't remember which one but it's in a book too.... but it was in several hoops rags back in the day. It was darn near global news at the time, on national tv and newspapers and everything.

A doctor determined that the truest way to measure a man's height is very early in the morning when he first wakes up. Apparently your spine compresses over the day, so immediately after waking is the time to do it.

Also this doctor said the absolute correct way is to have the subject lay out flat, so you get measured horizontally, see?

So they wheeled a bed in and Chamberlain slept in it. Presumably alone I dunno. :roll:
As soon as he woke up he laid on a table and they got the tape out.
And the doctor measured him at exactly 7'1 & 1/16".

edit ~ Well I just googled and found another one. This is from 1980 but it's not the picture I remember from the newspapers because he was in a jersey and it was in the '60s.
http://i.imgur.com/MNxlo.gif


http://www.thetallestman.com/whoisthetallest/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1014&start=30
in that forum it talks about his doctor saying 7'1& 1/16.
Maybe the memories are wrong??? :wtf:

no pun intended
07-04-2014, 09:42 PM
Can you add my man Bruno Caboclo?

LAZERUSS
07-04-2014, 09:53 PM
I don't remember which one but it's in a book too.... but it was in several hoops rags back in the day. It was darn near global news at the time, on national tv and newspapers and everything.

A doctor determined that the truest way to measure a man's height is very early in the morning when he first wakes up. Apparently your spine compresses over the day, so immediately after waking is the time to do it.

Also this doctor said the absolute correct way is to have the subject lay out flat, so you get measured horizontally, see?

So they wheeled a bed in and Chamberlain slept in it. Presumably alone I dunno. :roll:
As soon as he woke up he laid on a table and they got the tape out.
And the doctor measured him at exactly 7'1 & 1/16".

edit ~ Well I just googled and found another one. This is from 1980 but it's not the picture I remember from the newspapers because he was in a jersey and it was in the '60s.
http://i.imgur.com/MNxlo.gif


http://www.thetallestman.com/whoisthetallest/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1014&start=30
in that forum it talks about his doctor saying 7'1& 1/16.
Maybe the memories are wrong??? :wtf:

Not sure about this, but if it were in the 80's, than it is altogether possible that he had lost some height (I was amazed to find out that I had lost nearly two inches in the last 20 years myself.)

La Frescobaldi
07-04-2014, 10:02 PM
Not sure about this, but if it were in the 80's, than it is altogether possible that he had lost some height (I was amazed to find out that I had lost nearly two inches in the last 20 years myself.)

yeah lot of us got that same trouble :cheers:

LAZERUSS
07-04-2014, 10:29 PM
One thing was for certain...other than Kareem...Chamberlain just TOWERED over his peers, including the 6-10 Russell, the 6-11 Bellamy, and the 6-11 Thurmond. And I still remember Hot Rod Hundley claiming that Wilt was taller than Gilmore in the 71-72 ABA-NBA ASG (although it doesn't show up in the youtube footage.) With his afro, Gilmore was rumored to be 7-5, and Hundley claimed that Wilt was taller.

KAJ was slightly taller, but Wilt had a longer wingspan, and a higher vertical.

LAZERUSS
07-13-2014, 01:47 PM
Interesting take on the Gilmore-Wilt H2H in the '72 ABA-NBA ASG.

Listen in near the end of the footage at about the 1:19:00 mark...

"Wilt was two inches taller than Gilmore"...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN17x5up5n4

robert de niro
07-13-2014, 01:54 PM
can you do barea and wilt wingspan comparison please

HomieWeMajor
07-13-2014, 01:59 PM
NBA already scaled Wilt and Dwight here : http://youtu.be/OfvproRmoF0?t=58s

CavaliersFTW
07-13-2014, 03:40 PM
NBA already scaled Wilt and Dwight here : http://youtu.be/OfvproRmoF0?t=58s
The NBA didn't make that, a visual effects person did, and he or she had to get a 6-9 Dwight to cover up the giant 7-2 without shoes Kareem who is the actual player that took that shot. Dwight would be dwarfed by Wilt if that was scaled properly :oldlol:

LAZERUSS
07-13-2014, 08:17 PM
The NBA didn't make that, a visual effects person did, and he or she had to get a 6-9 Dwight to cover up the giant 7-2 without shoes Kareem who is the actual player that took that shot. Dwight would be dwarfed by Wilt if that was scaled properly :oldlol:

But there are those that honestly believe (well, probably not HONESTLY) that Wilt would be an average center in today's NBA.

HomieWeMajor
07-13-2014, 08:18 PM
The NBA didn't make that, a visual effects person did, and he or she had to get a 6-9 Dwight to cover up the giant 7-2 without shoes Kareem who is the actual player that took that shot. Dwight would be dwarfed by Wilt if that was scaled properly :oldlol:
I think that the NBA know a little more about basketball than any of us Dan :oldlol:

LAZERUSS
07-13-2014, 08:32 PM
Wilt claimed that he was "only" 7-1 1/16th, but only Kareem appeared taller (I didn't see any of the brutal massacres that Chamberlain leveled against the 7-3 Swede Halbrook.) And I believe Kareem claimed that he was "only" 7-1 5/8ths. Yet both were considerably taller than the other seven-footers of their eras.

And as Hot Rod Hundley mentioned in that ABA-NBA ASG footage, Wilt was NOTICEABLY taller than Gilmore. And I have never read any accounts of Gilmore being less than 7-2.

Waht was laughable was the Houston Rockets "Twin Towers" of Ralph Sampson and Hakeem Olajuwon. Sampson was listed at 7-4, but was no more than 7-1 1/2 (and was DWARFED by the 7-3 Mark Eaton), and Hakeem was no more than 6-10. And even an older Kareem looked taller than Sampson.

CavaliersFTW
07-13-2014, 09:22 PM
I think that the NBA know a little more about basketball than any of us Dan :oldlol:
Let's be clear about one thing here, you and I are not on a first name basis, I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire

Rodmantheman
07-13-2014, 09:23 PM
Have Wilt scaled next to this guy

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/162702/tx_ming.jpg

CavaliersFTW
07-13-2014, 09:24 PM
How tall was sun ming ming?
really f***** tall

G.O.A.T
07-13-2014, 09:37 PM
really f***** tall

And that was without Shoes...



also CavaliersFTW, why did you try and trick me like that?

Crystallas
07-13-2014, 10:10 PM
What everyone seems to miss, is that Muggsy is in every one of those pictures. You just can't see him, because his head is cut off.

http://www.baconsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/mj-45-muggsy.jpg

HomieWeMajor
03-18-2015, 09:05 AM
http://media.giphy.com/media/UmaYeuUZd0uKQ/giphy.gif
TNT really did their homework with that promo :bowdown: Calm down folks just a larf

warriorfan
03-18-2015, 09:22 AM
insecure stans incoming

Marchesk
03-18-2015, 09:28 AM
How come the bigger, stronger, faster doesn't apply to bigs in the modern era?

ButterFace
03-18-2015, 10:33 AM
Why was McGee included in this?

Lebronxrings
03-18-2015, 10:38 AM
What everyone seems to miss, is that Muggsy is in every one of those pictures. You just can't see him, because his head is cut off.

http://www.baconsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/mj-45-muggsy.jpg
jordans "strong" competition. :applause:

sd3035
03-18-2015, 10:43 AM
Scaled image of the competition, with Wilt's obviously on the left

http://cdn.mdjunction.com/components/com_joomlaboard/uploaded/images/_midget.jpg

BlakFrankWhite
03-18-2015, 10:44 AM
Scaled image of the competition, with Wilt's obviously on the left

http://cdn.mdjunction.com/components/com_joomlaboard/uploaded/images/_midget.jpg

:roll:

Height Freak
03-18-2015, 10:57 AM
Why was McGee included in this?

To compare his physique (wingspan) to Wilt's as he is perhaps the most common example in recent times used to describe "huge" wingspan.

dunksby
03-18-2015, 03:37 PM
sure, let me know if u find any pics with his arms spread out to showcase his 7-4.75 wingspan, that would be ideal but I know they aren't easy to find obviously not every player has posed like that for a photograph
http://s22.postimg.org/k81hk5jlt/Durant_Wings_Source24_Posterizes1366x768.jpg

4 Inches
03-01-2016, 08:45 PM
Yo Dan can we get some more of these ?

Zach LaVine
03-01-2016, 08:57 PM
People care way too much about size.

Corey78
03-01-2016, 08:58 PM
I believe Rubert Gobert's height and length is comparable to Wilt.

Asukal
03-17-2016, 08:51 PM
Why the fvck do you care so much about Wilt's physical sh!t? Yeah he was a giant, so what? He was also the biggest loser. Lost constantly to a guy 4 inches shorter and smaller than him. What a fvcking joke.. :facepalm

:whatever:

feyki
03-18-2016, 06:20 PM
I believe Rubert Gobert's height and length is comparable to Wilt.

Yes , he is .





Vertical as well Calm down Danny boy


No ,

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-c-A6DnfdO5Q/U17fHcwWNHI/AAAAAAAAFF8/VKBsSUA0TEw/s800/Wilt%2520skies3.jpg

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