Trump to reveal "shocking news" today on Obama

[niko]

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/10/donald_trump_pu.php

Trump (becoming increasingly delusional as he ages) has said that today he will release shocking news (via twitter, why not ISH?) that will possibly change the election. Is Obama a space alien? Secret spy from Kenya? Behind the 9/11 attacks?

My guess (although it would make him seem petty and homophobic) is him publicizing the guy in Chicago trying to say (without proof or anything) that he saw Obama in gay clubs as a young man. That's the latest "see you shouldn't vote for Obama" thing going around.

:lol My ultimate prediction is he says something so dumb it just passes without being noticed but i thought i'd let you all know.

PREPARE TO HAVE YOUR MINDS BLOWN.

[rufuspaul]

Trump is just being an attention whore. Nothing new here.

[nathanjizzle]

obama is part arab.

[Real Men Wear Green]

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/trumptupe.jpg
Fairly awesome

[JtotheIzzo]

risky move, hanging with f@gs might get him even more of the woman's vote.

[rufuspaul]

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/trumptupe.jpg
Fairly awesome


:oldlol:

[HardwoodLegend]

How many tweets has he made about Rob Pattinson and Kristen Stewart? Dude's a nut.

It'll probably be that Obama is a moslem.

[Riddler]

I'll be shocked if this alleged "shocking news" is actually shocking.

[rufuspaul]

http://wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/President_Obama_Monkeys.jpeg

:eek:


I knew it!

[jbot]

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/trumptupe.jpg
Fairly awesome
:oldlol:

[Math2]

Maybe that Obama supports Iran's nuclear freedom

[InspiredLebowski]

David Frum says it's something about divorce

[Godzuki]

funny thing is Trump supported Obama towards the end of the Bush years. he despised Bush altho everyone with the least bit of common sense did :lol

[KevinNYC]

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/trumptupe.jpg


Nice.

Of course, with the case of Trump it is his own hair, it just has been engineered to within an each of its life.

http://cdn2.screenjunkies.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/trump-hair-e1291232657737.jpg

[daily]

Nice.

Of course, with the case of Trump it is his own hair, it just has been engineered to within an inch of its life.


fixed that for you

[gigantes]

fixed that for you
you have utterly no idea until one day you read that hyper-excellent blog, william shatner's toupee. serious.



Trump to reveal "shocking news" today on Obama
if the donald knew how to tell the truth for once in his life, it would probably be to say "dammit... obama caught me using nine cans of hairspray to cement my balding combover when i've always claimed it was eight! god-double-dammit!!

and BTW... did i mention that i utterly despise democrats, leftists, ethnicities and poor people?"

[KevinNYC]

fixed that for you
OK, I'm getting another coffee. That was a bad one.

[daily]

OK, I'm getting another coffee. That was a bad one. Juan Valdez to the rescue!!!

[-p.tiddy-]

maybe he is going to reveal that Obama is black...

[MavsSuperFan]

maybe he is going to reveal that Obama is black...

OMG no are you sure?

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

announcement isn't coming til tomorrow.

[HardwoodLegend]

maybe he is going to reveal that Obama is black...

Or maybe that his mom was half black, so he's actually blacker than we thought before.

[Riddler]

maybe he is going to reveal that Obama is black...



:oldlol:


Such a simple joke... but yet for some reason it was so funny to read that just now.

[RedBlackAttack]

I've heard that this involves a man who said Obama used and sold cocaine back in the day.


Operatives close to the Romney campaign were contacted and rejected the information, the source told Radar.

“They didn’t want anything to do with it,” the source said. “They thought it was not anything they wanted to be associated with or anything their candidate would want to be associated with.”

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/10/president-obama-sold-cocaine-college-trump-charges-republicans-reject

[HardwoodLegend]

maybe he is going to reveal that Obama is black...

Or maybe that he sat down, thought long and hard about his religion and became an atheist.

[niko]

I've heard that this involves a man who said Obama used and sold cocaine back in the day.



http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/10/president-obama-sold-cocaine-college-trump-charges-republicans-reject
Trump spokesperson said that's not it. It's the divorce thing and possibly implying its because Obama is was gay. It's all just really stupid and makes me wonder what Trump is smoking.

[RedBlackAttack]

Trump spokesperson said that's not it. It's the divorce thing and possibly implying its because Obama is was gay. It's all just really stupid and makes me wonder what Trump is smoking.
I don't understand.... What divorce thing? And, the gay rumors aren't exactly news. Whacko far right-wing sites have been pushing that line for months.

Trump thinks if he says it that it will validate the story? Does he realize it is actually the complete opposite for any sane human beings? :oldlol:

[niko]

I don't understand.... What divorce thing? And, the gay rumors aren't exactly news. Whacko far right-wing sites have been pushing that line for months.

Trump thinks if he says it that it will validate the story? Does he realize it is actually the complete opposite for any sane human beings? :oldlol:
It's stupid too, if obama and his wife had problems ten days ago much less ten years, who cares? Trump is going to show papers that show they were close to divorce ten years ago the rumors are saying. Utterly ridiculous

[millwad]

Trump spokesperson said that's not it. It's the divorce thing and possibly implying its because Obama is was gay. It's all just really stupid and makes me wonder what Trump is smoking.

Beyond embarrrassing, even if it would be true which I really doubt, it's embarrassing for a person like Trump to get involved in such foolish "news".

[niko]

Beyond embarrrassing, even if it would be true which I really doubt, it's embarrassing for a person like Trump to get involved in such foolish "news".
He's still announcing its coming. He's lost his freaking mind.

[daily]

I've heard that this involves a man who said Obama used and sold cocaine back in the day.



http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/10/president-obama-sold-cocaine-college-trump-charges-republicans-reject If this is what the shocking news is about I'll bet it revolves around his days in Eagle Rock Ca. and Pasadena coffee houses.

[Dictator]

Obama and Mitchell was once filed for divorce......If this is true.......who the fck cares? :lol

[RedBlackAttack]

Obama and Mitchell was once filed for divorce......If this is true.......who the fck cares? :lol
Exactly.

I actually think the cocaine story could be more damaging IF there is even a shred of proof, which there probably isn't or we would have heard about it before. Not that I care whether or not he did cocaine. I mean, George W. Bush was pretty open about his drug/alcohol past and that included alleged cocaine use... No one cared nor should they.

I've done coke and just about everyone I know has done it. And, if you've done it, there is a reasonable chance that maybe you served as a middle man for friends at some point in your life.

I'm of a very libertarian mind when it comes to drugs. I think every drug should be legal and taxed. Who is the government to tell us what drugs can make us high (alcohol, tobacco, sugar, caffeine) and which cannot make us high (marijuana, cocaine, heroin)? That has never made any sense to me. If I want to get totally f#cked up out of my mind and I'm of age, I should be able to go to the corner store and get some oxi if I feel like it. :confusedshrug:

I'm on the Ron Paul side of this particular debate.

(sorry for the rant)


As for this divorce thing... So. The F#ck. What.

First of all, is it suddenly unconstitutional to be a divorced man and hold the presidency? Even if they did get divorced... Today.... What difference does it make?

Now, the fact that this is apparently marital troubles from a decade ago? :oldlol:

Jesus, these nutballs are grasping at straws.

[AlonzoGOAT]

Obama posterized kobe when he invited him to play at the whitehouse.


Probably lost all his votes in California and 20% around every state that holds bandwagon laker fans.

[miller-time]

what is he criticizing? he has been divorced himself? pot kettle black...

[InspiredLebowski]

If James Buchanan being single in 1856 didn't matter I don't think the Obamas being close to divorce or whatever it is is going to matter in 2012.

I know he won't say a word about it other than no comment but I wish Romney'd say something so we could get some discussion about him being Mormon.

[longhornfan1234]

Obama is gay? Typical lib. :roll: :roll:

[red1]

this shit will be underwhelming 100% guaranteed

[Myth]

Am I the only one who wants to see Obama announce he is gay? I'd like to see the first gay president in my lifetime, and I wouldn't have imagined it was Obama.

[red1]

obama has been in the public spotlight for a damn long time now, every relevant skeleton has already been pulled out of the closet. what can trump possibly have the inside scoop on that would be damning enough to affect the outcome of this race.

[Patrick Chewing]

http://www.rightwingnews.com/graphics/obamagayglobe.jpg

[bagelred]

funny thing is Trump supported Obama towards the end of the Bush years. he despised Bush altho everyone with the least bit of common sense did :lol

Doesn't say much for the American public, eh? Bush got reelected, and I'm sure at least 45% of the American public would vote him in a third time.

[RaininThrees]

I don't understand.... What divorce thing? And, the gay rumors aren't exactly news. Whacko far right-wing sites have been pushing that line for months.

Trump thinks if he says it that it will validate the story? Does he realize it is actually the complete opposite for any sane human beings? :oldlol:


Good article on this:


[QUOTE]The Fox News Wink: Is Obama "Gay"? or "Gay Gay"?

On Fox News' "The Five," moderator Greg Gutfeld offered up this comment in a jokey yuck-yuck tone:

"Obama is now out of the closet

[L.Kizzle]

Had an affair with Romney's wife.

That would make Obama seem evil and have the world feel sad for Mitt.

#winning

[IcanzIIravor]

I'm sure the Romney team isn't too happy with Trump. This is something that will get a few blurbs through the next few days and once again associate a kook with the Romney team. They should have realized a guy like Trump is just out for his own pub. The best thing for them is that this nonsense is happening now and not a few days before the election.

[KevinNYC]

I'm sure the Romney team isn't too happy with Trump. This is something that will get a few blurbs through the next few days and once again associate a kook with the Romney team. They should have realized a guy like Trump is just out for his own pub. The best thing for them is that this nonsense is happening now and not a few days before the election.

Romney has embraced Trump during this campaign. They actually held an event to promote Trump's endorsement. I think Trump was even still a birther at the time.
http://cdn.thedailybeast.com/content/dailybeast/articles/2012/05/25/mitt-romney-s-new-bff-donald-trump/_jcr_content/body/inlineimage.img.503.jpg/1337935531627.cached.jpg

Romney also attended fundraisers held by Trump.

This just sounds like Trump is jealous of all the publicity Larry Flynt would get from this sort of mischief.

[KevinNYC]

Gloria Allred is trying some mischief tomorrow as well.

[RedBlackAttack]

This just sounds like Trump is jealous of all the publicity Larry Flynt would get from this sort of mischief.
Only difference is Flynt actually has proven to be serious with his "stunts." During the Clinton impeachment years, Flynt was responsible for the ousting of hypocrites like Bob Livingston... Who was decrying Clinton on one hand and having affairs of his own on the other. Flynt also outed Bob Barr as being a king sized hypocrite during those hearings and really damaged Barr politically.

In short, Flynt is much better at this than Trump. If Flynt is on your @ss, you better watch out. If Trump is babbling about you, there doesn't seem to be much to worry about.

[bladefd]

So.. the day is over. Was it another Trump stunt to hype himself up? :oldlol:

[Patrick Chewing]

So.. the day is over. Was it another Trump stunt to hype himself up? :oldlol:


It will be revealed Wednesday. OP's thread title was incorrect

[FillJackson]

Yeah, but that usually involved Flynt paying out some money. Trump's getting headlines without paying a dime.

[RedBlackAttack]

It will be revealed Wednesday. OP's thread title was incorrect
And I'm sure it will be totally worth the coverage.

[InspiredLebowski]

Yeah, but that usually involved Flynt paying out some money. Trump's getting headlines without paying a dime.Far as you know.

But yeah, you're right. Which is a bummer.

[RedBlackAttack]

Yeah, but that usually involved Flynt paying out some money. Trump's getting headlines without paying a dime.
Didn't Trump pay a whole team of people to go down to Hawaii and attempt to gather information on Obama? Only to have absolutely nothing to report?

And, if this is the 'divorce-gate' thing, it wouldn't surprise me if some money exchanged hands between Trump and some 'investigators' or money-grabbers with the information.

The only difference is that Flynt was very transparent when detailing how he was obtaining his information, which made it that much more damning.

[irondarts]

lol he just released the "shocking announcement" it's not really an announcement at all, and it's not shocking.

Trump is offering to pay Obama's charity of choice 5 million dollars if Obama releases all of his college records and applications and all of his passport records :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Video (http://youtu.be/MgOq9pBkY0I)

Press Release:

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/304460_10152199183675725_1269411291_n.jpg

Holy shit how pathetic.

[niko]

That's just terrible. What a dick. BTW, why would you have copies of college applications at this point in his life? Or old passports? Don't you like, shred these things? So others can't use them to steal identity and such? I destroyed my kids old ones when we got the new ones.

[millwad]

Haha, wow, this is just so lame... :facepalm

Obama's college records and his passport records are his private belongings, so Trump was trying to get all this attention for this nonsense? What a dick..

[ALBballer]

Trump is a pathetic douche thought his daughter is banging

[-p.tiddy-]

Trump is an idiot but Obama should do it...

$5 mill in charity is no joke at all

[rufuspaul]

This is lame and so is the Obama campaign's efforts (through the Boston Globe) to make public Mitt Romney's testimony in a divorce case from 20 years ago. Some last minute dirty politics that are completely meaningless except to put doubt in people's minds.

I mean Trump already knows that Obama has no intention of responding to this ridiculous "deal". He just wants to help create a doubt in voter's minds. Same with the Romney testimony. Of course Mitt will distance himself from this, saying he has nothing to do with Trump, just as Obama will say that it's the Boston Globe that wants the Romney transcript.

[millwad]

Trump is an idiot but Obama should do it...

$5 mill in charity is no joke at all

The guy has obviously nothing to hide, if there would be anything dirty about the guy's past it would have been revealed but this nonsense must stop. First the bogus about where he was born and now this..

[NBA4EVER]

Summarization for what is going on please. Preferably in 2-3 sentences

[-p.tiddy-]

The guy has obviously nothing to hide, if there would be anything dirty about the guy's past it would have been revealed but this nonsense must stop. First the bogus about where he was born and now this..
agreed...

so he should show the papers and donate the $5 mill where he wants :confusedshrug:

[niko]

Summarization for what is going on please. Preferably in 2-3 sentences

Trump is a dick. Thinks people care about him. Nothing to see here.

[daily]

I'm so glad Trump is a New Yorker and has little to nothing to do with California

[niko]

I'm so glad Trump is a New Yorker and has little to nothing to do with California
You have Arnold. Does he reflect on your state? What a stupd thing to say.

[millwad]

Here is the video;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgOq9pBkY0I

[Riddler]

You have Arnold. Does he reflect on your state? What a stupd thing to say.


whoa whoa whoa... take it easy buddy... take it easy.

Arnold played Ben Richards in the Running Man.... Ben Richards!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVtUM1n-dfg

[Godzuki]

This is lame and so is the Obama campaign's efforts (through the Boston Globe) to make public Mitt Romney's testimony in a divorce case from 20 years ago. Some last minute dirty politics that are completely meaningless except to put doubt in people's minds.

I mean Trump already knows that Obama has no intention of responding to this ridiculous "deal". He just wants to help create a doubt in voter's minds. Same with the Romney testimony. Of course Mitt will distance himself from this, saying he has nothing to do with Trump, just as Obama will say that it's the Boston Globe that wants the Romney transcript.


actually its a big deal if Romney lied under oath about Staples value to help his corporate friend out, especially if its true they both made out like bandits selling the stock shortly after his testimony. i wouldn't be surprised if it were true since Romney has always come across as that guy who presents himself well and says all of the right things but you know behind closed doors he is a lot more conniving. in fact his whole campaign has been that way where you know he doesn't and can't deliver on a lot of the stuff he's saying where he probably won't try once he gets into office.

the problem is Obama was unable to deliver on some of the statements he made when he was running altho he at least tried, and now i think the Republicans or rather the Romney campaign thinks they can say anything and not have to deliver later using Obama as an example. difference being i think Obama was genuinely trying where as Romney has little intention of trying...

[rufuspaul]

Summarization for what is going on please. Preferably in 2-3 sentences


Trump thinks prez attended college as an Indonesian exchange student. He has no proof and the records are sealed and can only be released with the express written consent of the prez.

[DonDadda59]

Here is the video;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgOq9pBkY0I

So Donald Trump is a terrorist now? :oldlol:

If this clown hadn't been born with a silver spoon in his mouth, the biggest accomplishment of his life would've been maybe becoming the night manager at a 7-11.

[daily]

You have Arnold. Does he reflect on your state? What a stupd thing to say.Yeah he did. He was the Governor after all, elected by the voters. Talk about stupid things to say :lol

[niko]

Yeah he did. He was the Governor after all, elected by the voters. Talk about stupid things to say :lol
He doesn't reflect on the people. I'm not ashamed of NY because Trump is from here. It doesn't say anything about me. It's stupid to care about that.

[rufuspaul]

actually its a big deal if Romney lied under oath about Staples value to help his corporate friend out, especially if its true they both made out like bandits selling the stock shortly after his testimony. i wouldn't be surprised if it were true since Romney has always come across as that guy who presents himself well and says all of the right things but you know behind closed doors he is a lot more conniving. in fact his whole campaign has been that way where you know he doesn't and can't deliver on a lot of the stuff he's saying where he probably won't try once he gets into office.

the problem is Obama was unable to deliver on some of the statements he made when he was running altho he at least tried, and now i think the Republicans or rather the Romney campaign thinks they can say anything and not have to deliver later using Obama as an example. difference being i think Obama was genuinely trying where as Romney has little intention of trying...


All politicians make campaign promises they don't keep. I don't like it but it's the way it is. As voters we need to look at their individual records to decide. Look at Obama's first term and at Romney's term as governor of Massachusetts to get an idea of how each of them would serve as the chief executive 2012-2016.

[KevinNYC]

This is lame and so is the Obama campaign's efforts (through the Boston Globe) to make public Mitt Romney's testimony in a divorce case from 20 years ago.

Do you have evidence the Obama campaign is behind this? Or is this just speculation?

[rufuspaul]

Do you have evidence the Obama campaign is behind this? Or is this just speculation?


Oh it's complete speculation. His senate campaign was suspected of doing something similar when he was running in Ill.

The Boston Globe makes MSNBC and FOX look like a completely objective news organizations. There's probably no way to link the Globe's actions to the Obama campaign, anymore than one could link Romney to Trump. They (Trump and the Globe) are clearly trying to be surrogates for the respective campaigns though.

[Godzuki]

All politicians make campaign promises they don't keep. I don't like it but it's the way it is. As voters we need to look at their individual records to decide. Look at Obama's first term and at Romney's term as governor of Massachusetts to get an idea of how each of them would serve as the chief executive 2012-2016.


the differnce is tho i don't think Obama was blatantly lying about anything he said when he was running, in fact i think he genuinely tried to keep every promise he made but he either couldn't without votes or the circumstances changed where he couldn't pull troops out as immediately as the left wanted. Romney on the other hand, to me at least, is just saying what everyone wants to hear this election with no real intention of delivering on some of the things since he can't possibly deliver on everything he's said. he's intentionally misleading to get those votes, with no intention to deliver later, and if/when he gets called out for it he/right will cite Obama doing the same thing. i just don't blame people if they're genuinely trying but can't deliver more than someone who is disingenuous from the start.

[KevinNYC]

agreed...

so he should show the papers and donate the $5 mill where he wants :confusedshrug:

It's two weeks before the election. He should give Donald Trump the exact amount of thought he does normally. Zero.

[KevinNYC]

Oh it's complete speculation. His senate campaign was suspected of doing something similar when he was running in Ill.

The Boston Globe makes MSNBC and FOX look like a completely objective news organizations. There's probably no way to link the Globe's actions to the Obama campaign, anymore than one could link Romney to Trump. They (Trump and the Globe) are clearly trying to be surrogates for the respective campaigns though.

I would bet that the Romney team is not happy with Trump.

As for the court testimony, this feels to me like the wife of the CEO felt that Romney acting like a dick and wants to show people the Real Romney and she probably went to the Globe, Allred, possibly even the Obama team. To me this sounds like the Henry Hyde affair. Remember when Hyde became one the impeachment managers against Clinton? Then the husband of a woman Hyde had an affair with came forward and said Hyde had a four year affair with his wife. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Hyde#Extramarital_affair) That's my speculation.

[BMOGEFan]

Obama should just publish his college transcript.

What is his transcript going to say? How good his grades were to get into harvard law?

[ripthekik]

Yea.. there's really nothing to hide on a college app or passport..
what's he going to be embarrassed about? failing a class?
passport info just tells where you flew, don't think it matter that much anyways.

I'm more pissed at how easily a $5 million can be given away like that :mad:

[-p.tiddy-]

It's two weeks before the election. He should give Donald Trump the exact amount of thought he does normally. Zero.
true...he should do this AFTER the election then

and I am sure Trump will be in his thoughts today...

[Riddler]

Here is the video;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgOq9pBkY0I


Here's a better video: One that's actually worth a $hit.


Charlie Sheen's Video Message to President Obama about 9/11 questions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYcz2aqvWWA


The questions Mr. President.... The questions.

[rufuspaul]

I would bet that the Romney team is not happy with Trump.

As for the court testimony, this feels to me like the wife of the CEO felt that Romney acting like a dick and wants to show people the Real Romney and she probably went to the Globe, Allred, possibly even the Obama team. To me this sounds like the Henry Hyde affair. Remember when Hyde became one the impeachment managers against Clinton? Then the husband of a woman Hyde had an affair with came forward and said Hyde had a four year affair with his wife. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Hyde#Extramarital_affair) That's my speculation.


That's all plausible. Politics sure brings out the best in people. :oldlol:

[niko]

Here's a better video: One that's actually worth a $hit.


Charlie Sheen's Video Message to President Obama about 9/11 questions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYcz2aqvWWA


The questions Mr. President.... The questions.

Do you always need to post your stupid conspiracy shit in threads that have nothing to do with it? In the threads that it's relevant too, sure. But you do this all the time. It's retarded, it's basically just trolling.

[niko]

you don't react to retards accusing you of lying. If it was real life would you spend time digging up paperwork to hand over to a pyscho who has not guarantee of doing what he promised? You think Trump can't find something he'll claim is strange even if nothing is there? You think Obama will look good engaging a crazy person in a debate?

[-p.tiddy-]

you don't react to retards accusing you of lying. If it was real life would you spend time digging up paperwork to hand over to a pyscho who has not guarantee of doing what he promised? You think Trump can't find something he'll claim is strange even if nothing is there? You think Obama will look good engaging a crazy person in a debate?
you do when the retard is giving $5 mill in charity away though...

that could save hundreds or thousands of lives...it shouldn't be brushed off IMO

[rufuspaul]

the differnce is tho i don't think Obama was blatantly lying about anything he said when he was running, in fact i think he genuinely tried to keep every promise he made but he either couldn't without votes or the circumstances changed where he couldn't pull troops out as immediately as the left wanted. Romney on the other hand, to me at least, is just saying what everyone wants to hear this election with no real intention of delivering on some of the things since he can't possibly deliver on everything he's said. he's intentionally misleading to get those votes, with no intention to deliver later, and if/when he gets called out for it he/right will cite Obama doing the same thing. i just don't blame people if they're genuinely trying but can't deliver more than someone who is disingenuous from the start.


I'm sorry but I just don't buy this Romney=devil, Obama=saint bullshit. They're both slick politicians with hawkish advisors and political manipulators that wouldn't stop short of much to get their guy elected. It's pretty obvious that you've already drunk the Obama koolaid. Good for you.

[niko]

you do when the retard is giving $5 mill in charity away though...

that could save hundreds or thousands of lives...it shouldn't be brushed off IMO

With 2 weeks left in the election you want Obama to reopen debates with crazy people who think he was born in Africa. Seriously? You want him to engage Trump in a publicity stunt? Are you joking? That would be retarded.

[Is He Ill]

you do when the retard is giving $5 mill in charity away though...

that could save hundreds or thousands of lives...it shouldn't be brushed off IMO

Where do you draw the line though? How many times should one succumb to another persons demands? Trump could easily just donate the money without Obama releasing anything.

[KevinNYC]

true...he should do this AFTER the election then

and I am sure Trump will be in his thoughts today...

If I were Obama's chief of staff, I wouldn't even bother telling him about this.

Also if he were to do it, it sets a terrible precedent.

Think of how bad things are currently in this country. The documents from the state of Hawaii weren't enough to convince the kooks. The statements of officials in Hawaii up to the governor weren't enough. The governor of Hawaii was a Republican and campaigned for John McCain at the time.

The college transcripts are totally connected to the birther issue. There's a whole nother nonsense theory about how they will prove Obama's foreign born.

[-p.tiddy-]

With 2 weeks left in the election you want Obama to reopen debates with crazy people who think he was born in Africa. Seriously? You want him to engage Trump in a publicity stunt? Are you joking? That would be retarded.
he should do it after the election, like I said

just provide the stupid papers for him...$5 mill is $5 mill, use it for cancer research or something, it would go a long way

[-p.tiddy-]

Where do you draw the line though? How many times should one succumb to another persons demands? Trump could easily just donate the money without Obama releasing anything.
anytime he wants to donate $5 mill for 5 minutes of work :confusedshrug:

how hard is it really to produce these papers?...a phone call or something?

[niko]

he should do it after the election, like I said

just provide the stupid papers for him...$5 mill is $5 mill, use it for cancer research or something, it would go a long way
it's essentially a person trying to blackmail him. Trump thinks public pressure will make Obama react, not taking into account 99% of people think Trump is a retard. It makes me laugh somehow also that you think a crazy person would honor a pledge and not find something wrong in the backup that he'd refuse to pay. Trump is nuts. He thinks he is making people say "OMG OBAMA IS HIDING SOMETHING, I MUST CHANGE MY VOTE".

Crazy people don't honor bets.

[-p.tiddy-]

If I were Obama's chief of staff, I wouldn't even bother telling him about this.

Also if he were to do it, it sets a terrible precedent.

Think of how bad things are currently in this country. The documents from the state of Hawaii weren't enough to convince the kooks. The statements of officials in Hawaii up to the governor weren't enough. The governor of Hawaii was a Republican and campaigned for John McCain at the time.

The college transcripts are totally connected to the birther issue. There's a whole nother nonsense theory about how they will prove Obama's foreign born.
who cares if it doesn't convince anyone...just get the $5 mill in charity, that is all that is important

[DCL]

trump is like a real-life internet troll.

same behavior and personality.

[rufuspaul]

he should do it after the election, like I said

just provide the stupid papers for him...$5 mill is $5 mill, use it for cancer research or something, it would go a long way


I have to agree with KevinNYC here. It sets a bad precedent for a president to be manipulated by an egomaniacal lunatic no matter how much charity money is involved.

[-p.tiddy-]

it's essentially a person trying to blackmail him. Trump thinks public pressure will make Obama react, not taking into account 99% of people think Trump is a retard. It makes me laugh somehow also that you think a crazy person would honor a pledge and not find something wrong in the backup that he'd refuse to pay. Trump is nuts. He thinks he is making people say "OMG OBAMA IS HIDING SOMETHING, I MUST CHANGE MY VOTE".

Crazy people don't honor bets.
If I was going to pay you $5 mill to prove you aren't from Mars would you do it Niko?

who gives a shit if it is "nuts"...that is life saving money

[niko]

anytime he wants to donate $5 mill for 5 minutes of work :confusedshrug:

how hard is it really to produce these papers?...a phone call or something?

For me, it would require going to both of my schools, and putting in a request for copies of my transcript. I don't see why the schools would keep my application to the school now that i've not only been accepted, iv'e graduated and been out of the school 20 years. I'm still curious as to why he thinks the school would have that. I'm thinking if i made that request they'd say WHAT? WHY WOULD WE HAVE THAT?

As far as passports its a matter of if he kept them. He's been travelling his whole life, probably on a 5th or 6th passport, not including if he moved, etc. Again not sure why Trump thinks these are locked up somewhere.

Do you have your application to school? to anything? Who keeps applications after you finish something you are accepted to?

[niko]

If I was going to pay you $5 mill to prove you aren't from Mars would you do it Niko?

who gives a shit if it is "nuts"...that is life saving money

No, because i would be aware if you thought i was from Mars you'd look at my birth certificate and say "wait, this is the wrong shade of blue for a 1974 NY certificate, its fake! MARTIAN!". There is more of a chance of you coming to my house to stab me to save humanity that paying off a bet if you think like that.

[-p.tiddy-]

For me, it would require going to both of my schools, and putting in a request for copies of my transcript. I don't see why the schools would keep my application to the school now that i've not only been accepted, iv'e graduated and been out of the school 20 years. I'm still curious as to why he thinks the school would have that. I'm thinking if i made that request they'd say WHAT? WHY WOULD WE HAVE THAT?

As far as passports its a matter of if he kept them. He's been travelling his whole life, probably on a 5th or 6th passport, not including if he moved, etc. Again not sure why Trump thinks these are locked up somewhere.

Do you have your application to school? to anything? Who keeps applications after you finish something you are accepted to?
that is for YOU

for Obama it is a phone call...or maybe just a "nod" toward someone

[niko]

Do people not understand Trump's motivation? He wants to prove Obama did something wrong, or embarass him. There is no answer that Trump says "OK, HERE IS THE CHECK". There would be him grandstanding, implying things are wrong, press conferences, him accusing Obama of not giving him the information. It's like arguing with a troll on ISH, you can't win the argument because what the troll wants is the argument. Trump wants the validation of Obama accepting his stupid claims as valid. At which point he'll claim he's right. That's why he didn't say "birth certificate" or "Transcript", he wants applications, things that are hard to get copies of 20 years later, that might have essays attached to it, questions answered, somewhere he could claim something is missing or something is wrong.

There is no "right answer" for Obama except not answering at all.

[-p.tiddy-]

No, because i would be aware if you thought i was from Mars you'd look at my birth certificate and say "wait, this is the wrong shade of blue for a 1974 NY certificate, its fake! MARTIAN!". There is more of a chance of you coming to my house to stab me to save humanity that paying off a bet if you think like that.
Trump will pay though...we know that

[niko]

that is for YOU

for Obama it is a phone call...or maybe just a "nod" toward someone

Because the school knew he was going to become president and kept his applications from that long ago?

[Patrick Chewing]

So he ain't gay?

[niko]

So he ain't gay?
THE WORLD MAY NEVER KNOW.

Unless he is caught ****ing some dude, at which point he's gay. Or Bi i guess?

Maybe Trump should ask for proof he's not gay.

[-p.tiddy-]

Because the school knew he was going to become president and kept his applications from that long ago?
because he is the most powerful man in the world and he could have a team of gov minions dig that shit up or create one...whatever

not hard work for him, just sayin

[Is He Ill]

because he is the most powerful man in the world and he could have a team of gov minions dig that shit up or create one...whatever

not hard work for him, just sayin

:facepalm Why would any sane individual do that?

[Godzuki]

I'm sorry but I just don't buy this Romney=devil, Obama=saint bullshit. They're both slick politicians with hawkish advisors and political manipulators that wouldn't stop short of much to get their guy elected. It's pretty obvious that you've already drunk the Obama koolaid. Good for you.


i've always been pro democrat but i don't have a problem criticizing them or complementing republicans either if its what i see. and what i see in this situation is Romney's current campaign making a lot of statements they can't possibly deliver on altho thats been obvious if you've followed the debates. he can't pay off our deficit without raising taxes, cutting military spending, or just by cutting tax loopholes like he says he can. he can't bring back our manufacturing sector by forcing China to raise their wages either. its obvious he can't do a lot of the stuff he's saying he'll do while Obama/Dem's are being a lot more practical about those things telling us flat out our manufacturing sector isn't going to come back, and that they plan on taxing the richer more while Romney is acting like nobody is going to be taxed more. it just doesn't add up period, and yes it is one sided fiction.

you keep acting like both sides are the same when they're not nearly as much as you want to believe. and yes Republicans play very dirty, and always have much worse than Democrats if you've followed past elections...

[rufuspaul]

you keep acting like both sides are the same when they're not nearly as much as you want to believe. and yes Republicans play very dirty, and always have much worse than Democrats if you've followed past elections...


:rolleyes:

[daily]

Because the school knew he was going to become president and kept his applications from that long ago?I believe federal law requires student transcripts, admissions and other paperwork to be kept 60 years. Now when this law came into effect I'm not sure but I do know my father graduated college in the early 60's and was able to get copies of his transcripts a couple years ago when the Air Force (he's retired Air Force) requested copies of his ROTC training for his Air Force Reserve rank

[niko]

I believe federal law requires student transcripts, admissions and other paperwork to be kept 60 years. Now when this law came into effect I'm not sure but I do know my father graduated college in the early 60's and was able to get copies of his transcripts a couple years ago when the Air Force (he's retired Air Force) requested copies of his ROTC training for his Air Force Reserve rank
Are applications covered? And the backup within that needed to be shown? Applications contain reference letters, essays, just tons of bullshit backup. Once you are accepted i don't see why the application is that important, and once you graduate even less so.

[KevinNYC]

Trump will pay though...we know that
You really don't know Donald Trump do you?

The only reason Trump put up the $5 million is he could be sure Obama was going to ignore him.

Trump is far less rich that he portrays himself. Though I also bet for this, he had some folks pool their money.

[Real Men Wear Green]

If I was going to pay you $5 mill to prove you aren't from Mars would you do it Niko?

who gives a shit if it is "nuts"...that is life saving money
He's the President. He could call up some friend of his and ask them to give or raise five mil for a cause and it would happen immediately. He doesn't need to engage a nutjob with a fat wallet over a donation. Especially when everyone knows this is just a publicity stunt from an attention whore.

[-p.tiddy-]

You really don't Donald Trump do you?

The only reason Trump put up the $5 million is he could be sure Obama was going to ignore him.

Trump is far less rich that he portrays himself. Though I also bet for this, he had some folks pool their money.
lol

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_nf=3&gs_mss=texans%20jon&tok=K7EHco4cU8DJraxd2RfqAw&pq=texans%20johnathan%20joseph&cp=16&gs_id=3k&xhr=t&q=donald+trump+net+worth&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&oq=donald+trump+net&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=f41b66b96221fbec&bpcl=35466521&biw=1623&bih=876

[niko]

lol

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_nf=3&gs_mss=texans%20jon&tok=K7EHco4cU8DJraxd2RfqAw&pq=texans%20johnathan%20joseph&cp=16&gs_id=3k&xhr=t&q=donald+trump+net+worth&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&oq=donald+trump+net&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=f41b66b96221fbec&bpcl=35466521&biw=1623&bih=876

The "billions" numbers are what Trump values his "brand" as being worth. Do you think his brand is worth billions of dollars? He's rich, but he's not Prokorov throwing money around rich at all. It's overstated, mostly by him. (The google result says TRUMP WORTH 3 BILLION, that's HIM saying his brand's net worth is worth that, not he has assets of that.)

[Godzuki]

:rolleyes:


ughh its not even disputable. the catch phrases during the Rove years, birth of Fox news(don't even act like MSNBC equalizes them either), the Rush Limbaughs and that other guy who cried a lot(can't even remember his name anymore), and they flat out distorted to levels of exaggeration that the only way someone could pretend to defend the spinning was saying they aren't taken seriously, but yet they are by masses of people on the right.

Democrats for the longest time played it like choir boy poohsies. only after the Rove years did they really start getting down and dirty but still don't play as dirty as Republicans who play by a any means necessary to win the election strategy. even if it hurts us as a country the Republicans will still push for it to get elected, like hoping Obama fails in bringing back our economy so they have a better chance at a Republican candidate to be elected.

even if you look at the causes of both parties, and the type of people that make up their voters, the left has a lot of passivists of whom are politicially correct to a fault while the right are more radical gun advocates, death penalty, throwing our weight around militarily type mentalities. they'll do what it takes to win no matter how underhanded while the Democrats generally pretend to play with some integrity.

whatever tho, you'll probably call me bias but i'd swear what i'm saying is accurate to what i've seen since following politics and being as impartial as i can. its just obvious at this point IMO, and how often and the degree in which things are distorted being one sided.

[-p.tiddy-]

The "billions" numbers are what Trump values his "brand" as being worth. Do you think his brand is worth billions of dollars? He's rich, but he's not Prokorov throwing money around rich at all. It's overstated, mostly by him. (The google result says TRUMP WORTH 3 BILLION, that's HIM saying his brand's net worth is worth that, not he has assets of that.)
that is not just him saying that, it's Forbes and everyone else that decides that type of thing...


regardless, the guy is a billioniare

[-p.tiddy-]

http://www.forbes.com/profile/donald-trump/

there you go Niko/Kev

he is the #401 richest person in the world

#134 in the US

[-p.tiddy-]

Trump "CLAIMS" he is worth $7 billion (http://www.forbes.com/sites/joselambiet/2011/11/22/donald-trump-claims-hes-worth-7-billion/)

actual number around $3 bill though

[InspiredLebowski]

The worst part is that if you think about it for more than 2 seconds, it's Trump saying "yes, I have this 5 million dollars that I can give to charity. But if you don't do what I say instead of doing that I'm going to wipe my ass with it. Charities get nothin."

Just, Jesus, what an asshole.

[KevinNYC]

From your google link, you can find this article (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/22/donald-trump-net-worth-deposition_n_852376.html)about a deposition where Trump confessed to exaggerating his wealth all the time.

Asked in the deposition about his statements in 2007 that his net worth was $8 billion, Trump conceded: "I don't know. I don't think so. Well, maybe I'm adding 4 or 5 billion dollars worth, 3 billion, for the value of a brand. But I don't know."
.....
Among the deposition's most glaring examples of his fondness for exaggeration, Trump was asked why he claimed in several media accounts that he had a 50 percent interest in the massive Riverside South project on Manhattan's Upper West Side when he actually had a much smaller interest. "I own 30 percent," Trump replied. "But because of the fact I put no money up, that 30 percent is equated to 50 percent."

At another point, he is quizzed about his claim to CNN's Larry King that he earned over $1 milliion from a speech he gave to the Learning Annex. Trump admits that he was actually paid only $400,000 in cash, proffering the novel argument that adding in the annex's promotional expenses puts his payment in the $1 million-plus range.

In November 2007, Trump wrote a letter to the editor of the Wall Street Journal to complain about a story on his net worth, explaining that a development in Hawaii was a huge success. "My tower in Waikiki was 100 percent sold out with 729 million in sales, 5 hours, a record," he wrote. Yet he admitted in the deposition that he doesn't actually own the building -- he just has a licensing agreement with the real owners.

At another moment, he is asked about $18.3 million in insurance proceeds he received due to hurricane damage to his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida in 2005, explaining that he never felt obligated to turn that money over to the club or to spend all the money on repairs.

And he told Crain's New York Business in 2004 and 2005 that his Trump Organization has 22,000 employees, but admitted in the deposition that some of those employees are "not directly" on the payroll. Some are "suppliers, including construction workers, people that supply items to your building."

[KevinNYC]

Trump "CLAIMS" he is worth $7 billion (http://www.forbes.com/sites/joselambiet/2011/11/22/donald-trump-claims-hes-worth-7-billion/)

actual number around $3 bill though

Which proves exactly what I said. "not as rich as he claims to be."

[-p.tiddy-]

yeah but that debate is about how many BILLIONS he actually has...not millions :lol


no one is questioning that he has at least ONE billion Kev...he can easily produce $5 mill, probably made that much this week alone

[-p.tiddy-]

Which proves exactly what I said. "not as rich as he claims to be."
but he is rich enough to not have to pool money for $5 mill

[KevinNYC]

but he is rich enough to not have to pool money for $5 mill
You still don't understand Trump do you? After I just posted about how he testifies how he routinely lies about money.

It's not a question of what he could do, but what he does.
He doesn't have to be a giant flaming asshole but he is. He obviously chooses to be.

[KevinNYC]

I'm a New Yorker, I've been following Trump since he had hair and was known around these parts as "short-fingered-vulgarian Donald Trump."

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/SPY-MAGAZINE-1990-AUGUST-DONALD-TRUMP-/00/s/NjQwWDQ4MA==/$T2eC16VHJI!E9qSO8)CPBQ!FJSB01g~~60_3.JPG

He has much intention of paying of that $5 million as he did when he claimed he was going to run for president.

[-p.tiddy-]

okay, well I think he has $5 mill and is willing to pay...guess you don't

[RedBlackAttack]

that is not just him saying that, it's Forbes and everyone else that decides that type of thing...


regardless, the guy is a billioniare
The only absolute concrete number we have for Donald Trump concerning his net worth is from a court case in 2005. Trump filed for defamation when a book was written saying that he was "only" worth $150-250 million. He filed a lawsuit and eventually lost. Transcripts from the hearing showed that Deutsche Bank estimated his net worth at $788 million.

I think it's safe to say he is nowhere even remotely close to the $4-8 billion he claims to be worth.


As for this sham, if you actually believe Trump has any intention of passing along this money, I have a bridge to sell you. The most important line in the letter is this one...

"When he does this to my satisfaction and, if the information is complete..."

There will never be enough information for Trump's satisfaction, just like the birth certificate wasn't enough for him and his ilk.


This is just a silly game of charades and Obama is too important... too serious of a figure to lower himself where this clown plays.

[-p.tiddy-]

okay OTHERS like Forbes are guesstimating his value around $3 bill


my only point is that he obviously has more than $5 million to give :lol

[KevinNYC]

okay, well I think he has $5 mill and is willing to pay...guess you don't

p.tiddy, less than a year ago, Trump was supposed to leave the Republican Party (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2078221/Donald-Trump-leaves-Republican-party--Is-just-disgusted-considering-presidential-run-again.html) and run as a third candidate when the candidates wouldn't attend Trump's debate.


Donald Trump has left the Republican party, a week after GOP presidential candidates spurned him and refused to attend a debate he was moderating.
The billionaire real estate mogul's allies have said he left because he was 'disgusted' by Republicans in Congress and he is considering a third-party presidential run of his own.
But a headline debate that the Donald was planning to moderate flopped after only Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum -- two of the seven major Republican residential candidates -- said they would participate.
Despite his announcement in May that he would not seek the Republican presidential nomination, the Donald has kept alive speculation about a bid for the White House this year -- as he did in 2000, 2004 and 2008.

The dude never PUTS UP. He also never SHUTS UP, but definitely never puts up. If you don't know the raging insecurities that drive Donald Trump, you really don't understand him.

[-p.tiddy-]

I know the guy is a douche/idiot/etc...I was just saying that $5 mill toward charity makes that a "who cares what he is" thing

If Trump was going to give $5 mill toward cancer research (or whatev), who cares if he is the biggest a-hole on the planet?...it doesn't matter if he is a nice guy or a jerk at that point, what is important is the money.

[KevinNYC]

I know the guy is a douche/idiot/etc...I was just saying that $5 mill toward charity makes that a "who cares what he is" thing.

I think they should make that their campaign slogan. It would make a cool bumper sticker.

I DON'T DANCE FOR DOUCHES
OBAMA 2012

[RedBlackAttack]

I know the guy is a douche/idiot/etc...I was just saying that $5 mill toward charity makes that a "who cares what he is" thing

If Trump was going to give $5 mill toward cancer research (or whatev), who cares if he is the biggest a-hole on the planet?...it doesn't matter if he is a nice guy or a jerk at that point, what is important is the money.
But, if "the biggest a-hole on the planet" (an apt description) is the guy you are relying on to live up to his word and hand over $5 million, why would you even contemplate trusting him to do so?

It seems pretty cut and dry to me... Trump was looking for headlines and to somehow inject himself into this election because he is a massive attention wh0re and too much time has apparently gone by since he was a part of the political conversation. So, he contrives this silly ploy as a means to push his way into the spotlight.

This has nothing to do with money to charities, because he knows Obama is going to rightly ignore this little publicity stunt. It is all about garnering a little attention and a pretty despicable attempt to become part of the country's political conversation.

He is not to be taken seriously and his word obviously means nothing. He's proven that with his past actions.

Again, Obama is in the most powerful, important position in the world. He has no business even momentarily glancing at this fool.

[niko]

I know the guy is a douche/idiot/etc...I was just saying that $5 mill toward charity makes that a "who cares what he is" thing

If Trump was going to give $5 mill toward cancer research (or whatev), who cares if he is the biggest a-hole on the planet?...it doesn't matter if he is a nice guy or a jerk at that point, what is important is the money.
There is absolutely nothing in his history that suggests he would pay though. Basically we are taking a habitual liar and publicity whore, and arguing he would say OBAMA YOU WIN HERE IS YOUR MONEY when he despises the man to the point he's literally willing to believe anything about him. Why would he pay up on a bet?

[TheMan]

ughh its not even disputable. the catch phrases during the Rove years, birth of Fox news(don't even act like MSNBC equalizes them either), the Rush Limbaughs and that other guy who cried a lot(can't even remember his name anymore), and they flat out distorted to levels of exaggeration that the only way someone could pretend to defend the spinning was saying they aren't taken seriously, but yet they are by masses of people on the right.

Democrats for the longest time played it like choir boy poohsies. only after the Rove years did they really start getting down and dirty but still don't play as dirty as Republicans who play by a any means necessary to win the election strategy. even if it hurts us as a country the Republicans will still push for it to get elected, like hoping Obama fails in bringing back our economy so they have a better chance at a Republican candidate to be elected.

even if you look at the causes of both parties, and the type of people that make up their voters, the left has a lot of passivists of whom are politicially correct to a fault while the right are more radical gun advocates, death penalty, throwing our weight around militarily type mentalities. they'll do what it takes to win no matter how underhanded while the Democrats generally pretend to play with some integrity.

whatever tho, you'll probably call me bias but i'd swear what i'm saying is accurate to what i've seen since following politics and being as impartial as i can. its just obvious at this point IMO, and how often and the degree in which things are distorted being one sided.

Lee Atwater, Rove's idol and Godfather of dirty politics:bowdown:

[DonDadda59]

Why doesn't the Donald just donate the money regardless and then embark on a quest to find a toupee that doesn't look like chewed up hay glue-sticked together? Are people actually suggesting that the president of the United States, the commander-in-chief bow to the demands of some terrorist holding millions in aid ransom? He shouldn't have acquiesced to the birth certificate nonsense in the first place.

[KevinNYC]

Wow. I just saw the video of Trump making the offer. Douche does not even begin to cover it. He's basically shouting at the president of the United States like he's picking a fight in a bar.

[rufuspaul]

ughh its not even disputable. the catch phrases during the Rove years, birth of Fox news(don't even act like MSNBC equalizes them either), the Rush Limbaughs and that other guy who cried a lot(can't even remember his name anymore), and they flat out distorted to levels of exaggeration that the only way someone could pretend to defend the spinning was saying they aren't taken seriously, but yet they are by masses of people on the right.

Democrats for the longest time played it like choir boy poohsies. only after the Rove years did they really start getting down and dirty but still don't play as dirty as Republicans who play by a any means necessary to win the election strategy. even if it hurts us as a country the Republicans will still push for it to get elected, like hoping Obama fails in bringing back our economy so they have a better chance at a Republican candidate to be elected.

even if you look at the causes of both parties, and the type of people that make up their voters, the left has a lot of passivists of whom are politicially correct to a fault while the right are more radical gun advocates, death penalty, throwing our weight around militarily type mentalities. they'll do what it takes to win no matter how underhanded while the Democrats generally pretend to play with some integrity.

whatever tho, you'll probably call me bias but i'd swear what i'm saying is accurate to what i've seen since following politics and being as impartial as i can. its just obvious at this point IMO, and how often and the degree in which things are distorted being one sided.


You knowledge of political history doesn't go back very far.

[rufuspaul]

But, if "the biggest a-hole on the planet" (an apt description) is the guy you are relying on to live up to his word and hand over $5 million, why would you even contemplate trusting him to do so?

It seems pretty cut and dry to me... Trump was looking for headlines and to somehow inject himself into this election because he is a massive attention wh0re and too much time has apparently gone by since he was a part of the political conversation. So, he contrives this silly ploy as a means to push his way into the spotlight.

This has nothing to do with money to charities, because he knows Obama is going to rightly ignore this little publicity stunt. It is all about garnering a little attention and a pretty despicable attempt to become part of the country's political conversation.

He is not to be taken seriously and his word obviously means nothing. He's proven that with his past actions.

Again, Obama is in the most powerful, important position in the world. He has no business even momentarily glancing at this fool.


This is it in a nutshell. Trump doesn't even deserve this thread.

[-p.tiddy-]

IMO if he IS actually going to pay then he does deserve a "glance" (after election maybe)...if not then okay

$5 mill goes a long way, it saves lives...hundreds even thousands of lives...it's nothing to brush off IMO



but I am sure Obama will in fact just ignore

[-p.tiddy-]

wonder what would happen if a "nice guy" like Buffett made this same offer...

[DonDadda59]

wonder what would happen if a "nice guy" like Buffett made this same offer...

Warren Buffett isn't an egomaniac clown who craves attention like a 2 year old child, so you don't have to wonder about him making a ridiculous 'offer' like that :oldlol:

In fact, I think Mr. Buffet has donated billions of his personal fortune to various charities around the world (I think a month or 2 ago he donated $3 billion to his childrens' charity). I don't remember him making youtube videos demanding nudes of Obama before doing it either.

[Real Men Wear Green]

wonder what would happen if a "nice guy" like Buffett made this same offer...
A nice guy wouldn't make this "offer." He'd donate the 5 mil and not run dumbass publicity stunts.

[-p.tiddy-]

Warren Buffett isn't an egomaniac clown who craves attention like a 2 year old child, so you don't have to wonder about him making a ridiculous 'offer' like that :oldlol:

In fact, I think Mr. Buffet has donated billions of his personal fortune to various charities around the world (I think a month or 2 ago he donated $3 billion to his childrens' charity). I don't remember him making youtube videos demanding nudes of Obama before doing it either.
think he gave it to Bill Gates foundation...

[KevinNYC]

This is lame and so is the Obama campaign's efforts (through the Boston Globe) to make public Mitt Romney's testimony in a divorce case from 20 years ago.

Apparently the wife wanted to tell this story in a documentary that was being done on her in 2008. (http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/10/allred-maureen-sullivan-stemberg-romney-divorce)

And based on what people are alleging the testimony is about, I could see the court unsealing his testimony. Romney's lawyer says he doesn't foresee Mitt objecting to the testimony being unsealed. That leaves the husband as the only one with a stake objecting and if it's not his testimony and not about the settlement, I don't see why they wouldn't release it.

[DonDadda59]

think he gave it to Bill Gates foundation...


Buffett gives $3 billion to his kids' foundations

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Warren Buffett celebrated his 82nd birthday Thursday by announcing an additional $3.1 billion in donations to the charities run by his three children.

In 2006, Buffett pledged 17.5 million Class B shares of his firm, Berkshire Hathaway (BRKB), to each of his children's foundations. In an open letter to the three dated Thursday, Buffett said they had "exceeded my high expectations" in making use of the gifts so far, and that he was upping his pledge by 12.2 million shares each.

At Thursday's market price of $84.19 a share, that translates to an additional $3.1 billion in total. Buffett has been distributing a portion of the gift each year, with the three foundations in line to eventually receive roughly $7.5 billion, or more than $2.5 billion each.

http://money.cnn.com/2012/08/30/news/companies/buffett-donation/index.html

Donald Trump is a clown with very deep insecurity and ego issues. No one should take anything he says seriously, especially not the leader of the free world. The fact that he's holding charity money hostage speaks volumes of his character, or lack thereof.

[Droid101]

Was this posted yet?

Donald Trump is the least charitable of all American Billionaires (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/celebrity/trump-least-charitable-billionaire-109247)

[-p.tiddy-]

Buffett gives $3 billion to his kids' foundations

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Warren Buffett celebrated his 82nd birthday Thursday by announcing an additional $3.1 billion in donations to the charities run by his three children.

In 2006, Buffett pledged 17.5 million Class B shares of his firm, Berkshire Hathaway (BRKB), to each of his children's foundations. In an open letter to the three dated Thursday, Buffett said they had "exceeded my high expectations" in making use of the gifts so far, and that he was upping his pledge by 12.2 million shares each.

At Thursday's market price of $84.19 a share, that translates to an additional $3.1 billion in total. Buffett has been distributing a portion of the gift each year, with the three foundations in line to eventually receive roughly $7.5 billion, or more than $2.5 billion each.

http://money.cnn.com/2012/08/30/news/companies/buffett-donation/index.html

Donald Trump is a clown with very deep insecurity and ego issues. No one should take anything he says seriously, especially not the leader of the free world. The fact that he's holding charity money hostage speaks volumes of his character, or lack thereof.

hmm...that is new

was thinking of this:

http://money.cnn.com/2006/06/25/magazines/fortune/charity1.fortune/



Buffett is awesome...

[KevinNYC]

This is lame and so is the Obama campaign's efforts (through the Boston Globe) to make public Mitt Romney's testimony in a divorce case from 20 years ago.

Apparently she wanted to tell this story in a documentary that was being done on her in 2008. (http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/10/allred-maureen-sullivan-stemberg-romney-divorce)

And based on what people are alleging the testimony is about, I could see the court unsealing his testimony. Romney's lawyer says he doesn't foresee Mitt objecting to the testimony being unsealed. That leaves the husband as the only one with a stake objecting and if it's not his testimony and not about the settlement, I don't see why they wouldn't release it.

[niko]

Apparently she wanted to tell this story in a documentary that was being done on her in 2008. (http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/10/allred-maureen-sullivan-stemberg-romney-divorce)

And based on what people are alleging the testimony is about, I could see the court unsealing his testimony. Romney's lawyer says he doesn't foresee Mitt objecting to the testimony being unsealed. That leaves the husband as the only one with a stake objecting and if it's not his testimony and not about the settlement, I don't see why they wouldn't release it.

i think all of this shit is silly at this point in the election. I'd really love an honest opinion from Romney on Trump, i think it would be somewhere between "dumb mother****er" and "id like to punch him".

[RedBlackAttack]

i think all of this shit is silly at this point in the election. I'd really love an honest opinion from Romney on Trump, i think it would be somewhere between "dumb mother****er" and "id like to punch him".
Unfortunately for Mitt, he voluntarily and gleefully courted Donald Trump's endorsement, tying himself to this orange tinted wind bag for the duration of his campaign. If he wants to punch him, he has a funny way of showing it.

http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/3371/ap12020219868620x350.jpg

[Real Men Wear Green]

Colbert just offered Trump a charity million if Trump will take his balls in his mouth.

[JtotheIzzo]

is there a new season of The Apprentice coming up?

he acted this way with the birther crap right before the last season.

[rufuspaul]

Colbert just offered Trump a charity million if Trump will take his balls in his mouth.



‎"Mr. Trump -- I will write you a check for $1 million from Colbert Super PAC, you know I've got it, to the charity of your choice -- anything, Save the Children, feed the children, put the children on child Apprentice, whatever -- one million actual dollars if you will let me dip my balls in your mouth." -- Stephen Colbert

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[rufuspaul]

Unfortunately for Mitt, he voluntarily and gleefully courted Donald Trump's endorsement, tying himself to this orange tinted wind bag for the duration of his campaign. If he wants to punch him, he has a funny way of showing it.



Hmm...a politician courting a rich person for their money and influence? Never heard of that before.

[Godzuki]

i think all of this shit is silly at this point in the election. I'd really love an honest opinion from Romney on Trump, i think it would be somewhere between "dumb mother****er" and "id like to punch him".


if anything its very relevant and IMO important to what type of person Romney actually is. if i could believe and trust the image he puts out and what he says 100% that he's at least sincere i'd even think about voting for him since i'm not happy at all with new left environmental legislation Democrats have put on businesses of which some are very clueless on the governments part. but there are so many signs that he's extremely disingenuous between the secret recordings of his 47% statement that i think a lot of people have concerns about as well as the things he's saying he can/will do that don't really add up but sounded great throughout the debates. if it is incriminating and he told a blatant lie it just further reinforces doubts about his character. its just real borderline to me where i'm thinking he's a Lance Armstrong type of liar that does it with no conscience.

my biggest issue with Romney is his character, he's so difficult to trust at his word because it seems like he doesn't care about blatantly lying to reach his goal. both sides don't play that way but i guess that comes down to how well you can read people, and how much you follow this stuff.

[rufuspaul]

if anything its very relevant and IMO important to what type of person Romney actually is. if i could believe and trust the image he puts out and what he says 100% that he's at least sincere i'd even think about voting for him since i'm not happy at all with new left environmental legislation Democrats have put on businesses of which some are very clueless on the governments part. but there are so many signs that he's extremely disingenuous between the secret recordings of his 47% statement that i think a lot of people have concerns about as well as the things he's saying he can/will do that don't really add up but sounded great throughout the debates. if it is incriminating and he told a blatant lie it just further reinforces doubts about his character. its just real borderline to me where i'm thinking he's a Lance Armstrong type of liar that does it with no conscience.

my biggest issue with Romney is his character, he's so difficult to trust at his word because it seems like he doesn't care about blatantly lying to reach his goal. both sides don't play that way but i guess that comes down to how well you can read people, and how much you follow this stuff.


It also has a lot to do with how the candidates are portrayed in the mainstream media.

[niko]

It also has a lot to do with how the candidates are portrayed in the mainstream media.

i try not to read their characters too much for that reason. I just try to look for things that are total non starters too me either because it makes me think that they lean toward things i don't like (like the Arizona immigration law, anyone not bashing some parts of that doesn't work for me) or if there are specific things i care about.

[Godzuki]

It also has a lot to do with how the candidates are portrayed in the mainstream media.

it has nothing to do with media spin. the 47% thing was extremely shady, that was not media spinning. what he said during the debates that he can and will do is not media spin, its just difficult to believe he can since it doesn't add up, but you can't disprove it until after the fact of him failing/succeding if he got into office. if he blatantly lied for his friend under oath it reinforces all of those question marks, to me at least. i don't think media can spin what we directly observed.

i mean he said a lot of things in this last debate that seemed reasonable and less right wing extreme to me, and also made a lot of statements of what he will do that sounded great but hard to believe he can accomplish, or that he actually believes he can. the latter of which bothers me the most since its one thing to make promises and try even if shit happens where you can't deliver, but its on a Lance Armstrong level of liar to blatantly lie to reach your goal knowing you possibly can't deliver on them and don't really have much intention of trying.

[RedBlackAttack]

Hmm...a politician courting a rich person for their money and influence? Never heard of that before.
In a setting like that? Where the candidate actually appears on a stage with the rich person?

I would also contend that this particular endorsement is more politically motivated than just a source of campaign donations. Trump, despite being a complete joke, does have some political sway amongst the far, far right lunies who back the whole birther thing among other absurd notions.

Romney accepting that endorsement on a stage with Trump was in-part an appeal to that segment fundamentalist retards. When you accept such an endorsement from that kind of person in that kind of setting, you do tie yourself to him, for better or worse.

[Derka]

I hope Donald Trump just dies soon.

Even then, I don't think we'd be rid of him for good. He'd find some f*cking way to be annoying from beyond the grave.

[InspiredLebowski]

Trump's going to be on Letterman tonight

[RedBlackAttack]

Trump's going to be on Letterman tonight
Good looking out. I'll be sure not to watch.

[bladefd]

Obama should say "Make it 30 million and I'm in."

$5 mill is like 5 bucks to Trump. Make it cost something to him for being a scumbag.

[rufuspaul]

In a setting like that? Where the candidate actually appears on a stage with the rich person?

I would also contend that this particular endorsement is more politically motivated than just a source of campaign donations. Trump, despite being a complete joke, does have some political sway amongst the far, far right lunies who back the whole birther thing among other absurd notions.

Romney accepting that endorsement on a stage with Trump was in-part an appeal to that segment fundamentalist retards. When you accept such an endorsement from that kind of person in that kind of setting, you do tie yourself to him, for better or worse.

Well thank God his holy highness St. Obama has never been associated with any shady characters. Amen.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/07/13/Top-Ten-Felons-In-Obamas%20Life

[daily]

Well thank God his holy highness St. Obama has never been associated with any shady characters. Amen.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/07/13/Top-Ten-Felons-In-Obamas%20LifeFunny how people conveniently forget those things. Obama and his Chicago political machine are one of those things in 10 years we're all going to be shaking our heads wondering how he ever became a president as more and more leak out.