Timberwolves accused of racism

[Clippersfan86]

:facepalm what a joke...

http://www.startribune.com/sports/wolves/176071391.html?refer=y


"Terrell calls it "scary" that the Wolves would assemble a roster almost 70 percent white in a sport so dominated by blacks. For Edwards, the numbers trouble him by the "historical view," what he calls a "nullification of diversity and a reversal of history."

[CeltsGarlic]

"Adelman has referred to his players as a "smart team, a very smart team," a tag that likely will be repeated often this season in a world where black players often are stereotyped as athletic and white players as smart."

I cant believe what I just read.

[v1ncelis]

Wow ... just wow. This is going way to far. :facepalm

[kmartshopper]

why did i respond to this -.-

[IGOTGAME]

Stereotypes are very real in basketball. See Jeremy Lin being a smart pg.

However I don't care about this.

[Grey Dawn]

"Adelman has referred to his players as a "smart team, a very smart team," a tag that likely will be repeated often this season in a world where black players often are stereotyped as athletic and white players as smart."

I cant believe what I just read.

Adelman didn't say his team is a smart team because they're a white team.

But the goof in your avatar (Garnett) is a shining example of dumb-ass black millionaire elite sports players who try to act like ghetto hood rats and give being black a bad name in the process.

[Go Getter]

:facepalm what a joke...

http://www.startribune.com/sports/wolves/176071391.html?refer=y


"Terrell calls it "scary" that the Wolves would assemble a roster almost 70 percent white in a sport so dominated by blacks. For Edwards, the numbers trouble him by the "historical view," what he calls a "nullification of diversity and a reversal of history."

A few Timberwolves players chime in on it as does the Wolves organization. Let's just say the owner DOES want to assemble a mostly white team to cater to fans? Who gives a shit, it's his team. As long as he's treating people of all ethnicity with dignity and respect I don't see the issue although I strongly believe this roster is more coincidence.

We need white civil rights guys now crying about how predominantly black the league is :rolleyes:
First off you're stupid.


Secondly, if he is hiring weaker white players in leui of stronger black players that want to be there thats shady.


It's his team, but It's not his league and everyone has the right to comment. Your first reaction to make a fuss about the amount of black players in the league is some bitchmade silly shit. You suck as a person and a poster. Go hunt some ghosts and stop posting about basketball.

[RRR3]

Adelman didn't say his team is a smart team because they're a white team.

But the goof in your avatar (Garnett) is a shining example of dumb-ass black millionaire elite sports players who try to act like ghetto hood rats and give being black a bad name in the process.
KG is very intelligent, stop hating.

[Shade8780]

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[Darius]

lol @ B. Roys Comment:

"The only problem we have is in the weight room, arguing over what music we're going to listen to."

[nightprowler10]

I agree that this had to be a coincidence, but disagree with CF86's 2nd paragraph. Unless you're in a situation where the quota system is needed (see post apartheid South Africa), it's morally wrong IMO to pick a team of just white/black/brown/pink/green/etc. players with no regard to whether a better player of a different race is simply the much better fit. You're actually doing your own team a great disservice and creating a culture of segregation.

That said, this 'Wolves thing is ridiculous. I'd question the people bringing this issue up. They themselves need to take a hard look in the mirror and figure out what they stand for, because from where I sit that Tyrone Terrell guy sounds like the real racist.

[StroShow4]

Someone should do a calculation: what percentage of players in the entire history of the Minnesota Timberwolves have been white?

[Go Getter]

Adelman didn't say his team is a smart team because they're a white team.

But the goof in your avatar (Garnett) is a shining example of dumb-ass black millionaire elite sports players who try to act like ghetto hood rats and give being black a bad name in the process.
If you let the 1% of blacks in pro sports make you dislike the other 99% of blacks in the world then you're a dumbass and not worthy of human companionship. It's like me hating all whites because of slavery or the KKK.

[Clippersfan86]

First off you're stupid.


Secondly, if he is hiring weaker white players in leui of stronger black players that want to be there thats shady.


It's his team, but It's not his league and everyone has the right to comment. Your first reaction to make a fuss about the amount of black players in the league is some bitchmade silly shit. You suck as a person and a poster. Go hunt some ghosts and stop posting about basketball.

Quit talking out of your ass douche. I was simply saying even if he assembled an all white team to cater to Minnesota, as long as he's treating others with respect, nothing is "racist" about it. Racism is the belief or actions upon that belief that your race is superior. If I assemble an all white team because I think it would be unique or different that's not related to RACISM. All of these non black players are extremely talented on the Wolves.

I personally don't have ANY issue with how many black players are in the league I just find it humorous how civil rights leaders cry about petty shit like this yet they are quiet if the league is 99 percent black. It makes no sense at all.

[Yung D-Will]

That's retarded, anyone who knows Rick Adelman knows he'll play anyone as long as they have a basketball IQ. Serious question, has Rick Adelman ever coached a dumb team? No because by the end of the year he gets rid of the players he feels don't make good enough decisions.

[RaininTwos]

"Adelman has referred to his players as a "smart team, a very smart team," a tag that likely will be repeated often this season in a world where black players often are stereotyped as athletic and white players as smart."

I cant believe what I just read.
That quote is 100 percent true

[Clippersfan86]

Prowler that's just it. I don't think he's passing up more talented black players just because he prefers white guys. The fact that civil rights leaders always make issue of things like this but don't acknowledge when it's the other way around is what I have an issue with.

[ALBballer]

So the team is 30% black which means blacks are still overrepresented relative to the the black population in the united states.

This is a bunch of nonsense and a way for these civil liberty reps to get their names in the paper.

If the team is preferring white players over blacks then their win/loss record will show for it and the franchise will ultimately pay for their "racist" actions. There have been teams that are 100% black and you never see these reps complaining. T-Wolves are an easy target..........

[Droid101]

Brandon Roy is one of the smartest players on that team.

I guess that makes him white now?

[Clippersfan86]

So the team is 30% black which means blacks are still overrepresented relative to the the black population in the united states.

This is a bunch of nonsense and a way for these civil liberty reps to get their names in the paper.

If the team is preferring white players over blacks then their win/loss record will show for it and the franchise will ultimately pay for their "racist" actions. There have been teams that are 100% black and you never see these reps complaining. T-Wolves are an easy target..........

Bingo. All I'm saying. We need some white reps now crying about how little whites are in the league :rolleyes:

[RaininTwos]

Quit talking out of your ass douche. I was simply saying even if he assembled an all white team to cater to Minnesota, as long as he's treating others with respect, nothing is "racist" about it. Racism is the belief or actions upon that belief that your race is superior. If I assemble an all white team because I think it would be unique or different that's not related to RACISM. All of these non black players are extremely talented on the Wolves.

I personally don't have ANY issue with how many black players are in the league I just find it humorous how civil rights leaders cry about petty shit like this yet they are quiet if the league is 99 percent black. It makes no sense at all.

That's an idiotic statement. The exaggeration, the flawed logic, the hostility makes this just bad. There is no hypocrisy or humor involved. Most of the best basketball players in the world are black. So why wouldn't the premiere basketball league have a majority black workforce?

For the record, I don't think Adelman or the Timberwolves are racist at all but this is odd.


So the team is 30% black which means blacks are still overrepresented relative to the the black population in the united states.

This is a bunch of nonsense and a way for these civil liberty reps to get their names in the paper.

If the team is preferring white players over blacks then their win/loss record will show for it and the franchise will ultimately pay for their "racist" actions. There have been teams that are 100% black and you never see these reps complaining. T-Wolves are an easy target..........
I agree with everything except the bolded.

[ALBballer]

"Adelman has referred to his players as a "smart team, a very smart team," a tag that likely will be repeated often this season in a world where black players often are stereotyped as athletic and white players as smart."

I cant believe what I just read.

This type of stereotype is persistent in sports. Just look at the scouting report for many white players in basketball and football, they always sound the same.

"Smart, hard working, not as athletic, high motor, student of the game, more quick than fast"

What's even funnier is you always get black to black player comparison and white to white player comparison. Knowing some idiot scout, they probably labeled Chase Budinger as the next Larry Bird even though his game is nothing like that.

[Go Getter]

Bingo. All I'm saying. We need some white reps now crying about how little whites are in the league :rolleyes:
Who is crying? The people behind this article represent all blacks?


You sir, are an ignorant, repulsive human being.

[Clippersfan86]

Who is crying? The people behind this article represent all blacks?


You sir, are an ignorant, repulsive human being.

Civil rights reps crying about a lack of black diversity on a team :confusedshrug: . I'm specifically calling them out, stop making this out like I'm making general statements about blacks and whites in sports. I've never once even thought how the NBA is predominantly black. I'm responding to this specific article and if you don't like it, fu** off.

[TexasBloodMoney]

What's funny is that the timberwolves probably have the most diverse roster in the nba with players from all over the world (Spain, Russia, Puerto Rico...).

[ALBballer]

Finally the T-Wolves have a bunch of international players. Not so sure your average white American can relate to Nikola Pekovic, Andrei Kirlenko and etc. They probably have more in common with say Brandon Roy.

Like I said this is just a public stunt.

[RaininTwos]

What's funny is that the timberwolves probably have the most diverse roster in the nba with players from all over the world (Spain, Russia, Puerto Rico...).
Toronto>

[ALBballer]

What's funny is that the timberwolves probably have the most diverse roster in the nba with players from all over the world (Spain, Russia, Puerto Rico...).

Great point.

[Clippersfan86]

What's funny is that the timberwolves probably have the most diverse roster in the nba with players from all over the world (Spain, Russia, Puerto Rico...).

Yea... it's actually impressive to me. That they have so many people from all over.

[ZenMaster]

This type of stereotype is persistent in sports. Just look at the scouting report for many white players in basketball and football, they always sound the same.

"Smart, hard working, not as athletic, high motor, student of the game, more quick than fast"

What's even funnier is you always get black to black player comparison and white to white player comparison. Knowing some idiot scout, they probably labeled Chase Budinger as the next Larry Bird even though his game is nothing like that.

If scouts have reported the same things over and over could it possibly be that they are true? :confusedshrug:

Maybe there are more black to black and white to white player comparisons because history has shown they actually play more alike?

I've been called racist by Euroleage for saying these things before, but the evidence is just sitting right there in front of people. Some people call it racism and stereotypes, others refer to it as common sense given how many insanely athletic basketball players there are who mostly descend from West-Africa.

[InspiredLebowski]

I don't know if the Tyrone Terrell guy just sees white skin and automatically assumes American caucasian or what but rosters like Minnesota's are the result of the rest of the world catching up to the US in basketball.

[FireMcFailPlease]

everybody knows the only black people here in minnesota are prince and kirby puckett

[StroShow4]

T-Wolves All-Time Roster: http://www.nba.com/timberwolves/roster/alltime_roster.html

By my count they've had 136 black players and 41 white players. So, historically, they've been 76.8% black. But that wasn't a problem. :rolleyes:

[Go Getter]

Civil rights reps crying about a lack of black diversity on a team :confusedshrug: . I'm specifically calling them out, stop making this out like I'm making general statements about blacks and whites in sports. I've never once even thought how the NBA is predominantly black. I'm responding to this specific article and if you don't like it, fu** off.
There have been very few posters if any I think I couldn't sit down and have a beer with but you have to be on that list.


Guys like Sharpton make money off of flaming idiots like you with stupid shit like this until another "racial crime" happens. Blacks don't give a shit about Minnesota and their alabaster team really. Ain't no one worryin about them like Anthony Hamilton. Just like blqcks dont care about BYU and hockey on average.


The NBA is run by whites who draft mostly black players you dumb sumnabitch so what youre saying or proposing is stupid. Leave it the **** alone. Of course black people are sensitive and scared when racism seems to be poking its head out, we've been abused.


What's your excuse for whining and trying to make a fuss for white players rights? You scared blacks will economically and systematically discriminate against you? Or is your fat lily white ass just mad you weren't born black? It's probably because you lack friends and a real life.....thats what I tell blacks that see racism in everything. They need to get a ****ing life and worry about what they can do, not about what others are doing.

People will continue to see race as an issue in sports because it is a racial climate. For example, whites make the lions share of the money, yet everyone points to the spolied athlete, not the owners who made it big when blacks werent allowed to play on a level field. Not all the people that made billions off of Jordan and wthletes like him by doing little to no work (in comparison to the work he put in on his game).


You're a dopey young **** who needs to stfu and read and listen more.

[Clippersfan86]

I don't know if the Tyrone Terrell guy just sees white skin and automatically assumes American caucasian or what but rosters like Minnesota's are the result of the rest of the world catching up to the US in basketball.

I think so. Obviously American blacks and whites are much more similar than let's say an American white and a Russian.

[Clippersfan86]

There have been very few posters if any I think I couldn't sit down and have a beer with but you have to be on that list.


Guys like Sharpton make money off of flaming idiots like you with stupid shit like this until another "racial crime" happens. Blacks don't give a shit about Minnesota and their alabaster team really. Ain't no one worryin about them like Anthony Hamilton. Just like blqcks dont care about BYU and hockey on average.


The NBA is run by whites who draft mostly black players you dumb sumnabitch so what youre saying or proposing is stupid. Leave it the **** alone. Of course black people are sensitive and scared when racism seems to be poking its head out, we've been abused.


What's your excuse for whining and trying to make a fuss for white players rights? You scared blacks will economically and systematically discriminate against you? Or is your fat lily white ass just mad you weren't born black? It's probably because you lack friends and a real life.....thats what I tell blacks that see racism in everything. They need to get a ****ing life and worry about what they can do, not about what others are doing.

People will continue to see race as an issue in sports because it is a racial climate. For example, whites make the lions share of the money, yet everyone points to the spolied athlete, not the owners who made it big when blacks werent allowed to play on a level field. Not all the people that made billions off of Jordan and wthletes like him by doing little to no work (in comparison to the work he put in on his game).


You're a dopey young **** who needs to stfu and read and listen more.


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[RaininTwos]

:eek:

A lot of people are being unreasonable and saying dumb things in this thread.

[Heavincent]

Anybody who thinks the Wolves organization is racist is ****ing retarded. Plain and simple.

[Umad101]

Well isn't is true that whites are more smarter

[millwad]

Such a worthless accusation..

If he only had looked beyond colour he'd see the skillset of Timberwolves players who will get playing time and who are white.

Kevin Love - One of the best players in the league and also the best rebounder in the league.

Nikola Pekovic - One of the best european centers, if not the best, definitely one of the better centers in the league.

Ricky Rubio - One of the highest rated prospects in a long time and the guy is still very young but still he proved his skills last year.

Andrei Kirilenko - One of the best european players of all-time.

Jose Barea - Key player on the Dallas roster who won it all.

Chase Budinger - As a Rocket fan I'm no fan of his game but he can ball.


Worthless accusation..

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

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:roll: :applause:

Some serious inferiority complexes in here.

[rezznor]

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/523049_10100803421374296_2116950931_n.jpg

[nightprowler10]

There have been very few posters if any I think I couldn't sit down and have a beer with but you have to be on that list.


Guys like Sharpton make money off of flaming idiots like you with stupid shit like this until another "racial crime" happens. Blacks don't give a shit about Minnesota and their alabaster team really. Ain't no one worryin about them like Anthony Hamilton. Just like blqcks dont care about BYU and hockey on average.


The NBA is run by whites who draft mostly black players you dumb sumnabitch so what youre saying or proposing is stupid. Leave it the **** alone. Of course black people are sensitive and scared when racism seems to be poking its head out, we've been abused.


What's your excuse for whining and trying to make a fuss for white players rights? You scared blacks will economically and systematically discriminate against you? Or is your fat lily white ass just mad you weren't born black? It's probably because you lack friends and a real life.....thats what I tell blacks that see racism in everything. They need to get a ****ing life and worry about what they can do, not about what others are doing.

People will continue to see race as an issue in sports because it is a racial climate. For example, whites make the lions share of the money, yet everyone points to the spolied athlete, not the owners who made it big when blacks werent allowed to play on a level field. Not all the people that made billions off of Jordan and wthletes like him by doing little to no work (in comparison to the work he put in on his game).


You're a dopey young **** who needs to stfu and read and listen more.
I think you're misunderstanding CF86's point, which he admittedly could've put forth better. He's saying that these types of accusations are much too common and are often very silly, and the next step of this ridiculousness would be a whites rights group, which again would be ridiculous.

[Clippersfan86]

Well isn't is true that whites are more smarter

:roll: :roll: :facepalm

[nightprowler10]

Such a worthless accusation..

If he only had looked beyond colour he'd see the skillset of Timberwolves players who will get playing time and who are white.

Kevin Love - One of the best players in the league and also the best rebounder in the league.

Nikola Pekovic - One of the best european centers, if not the best, definitely one of the better centers in the league.

Ricky Rubio - One of the highest rated prospects in a long time and the guy is still very young but still he proved his skills last year.

Andrei Kirilenko - One of the best european players of all-time.

Jose Barea - Key player on the Dallas roster who won it all.

Chase Budinger - As a Rocket fan I'm no fan of his game but he can ball.


Worthless accusation..
Yeah this is a good point. When you take a look at the Minny roster it just makes the whole thing that much more ridiculous.

[Clippersfan86]

I think you're misunderstanding CF86's point, which he admittedly could've put forth better. He's saying that these types of accusations are much too common and are often very silly, and the next step of this ridiculousness would be a whites rights group, which again would be ridiculous.

:applause: thank you. I obviously have trouble expressing things clearly sometimes, and usually it just comes out and I correct it later, I can admit that.

[millwad]

:applause: thank you. I obviously have trouble expressing things clearly sometimes, and usually it just comes out and I correct it later, I can admit that.

I got scared yesterday during the night when I came to think about ghosts.

[Math2]

Maybe he went against all blacks after having Micheal Beasley :lol

But seriously, this article is retarded (whoops, that's IQist.)

[kNicKz]

http://www.slamonline.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/issue-21-marbury-garnett.jpg

clearly a racist owner :roll:

[Clippersfan86]

I got scared yesterday during the night when I came to think about ghosts.

:oldlol: why? They usually won't hurt ya :cheers:

[millwad]

:oldlol: why? They usually won't hurt ya :cheers:

I saw the latest Criminal Minds episode and my roommate was acting all weird so I thought that some ghost would use karate on my swedish butt, I'm serious.

[RRR3]

http://www.slamonline.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/issue-21-marbury-garnett.jpg

clearly a racist owner :roll:
Young KG :pimp:

[kNicKz]

http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/si_online/covers/images/2004/0301_large.jpg

[Clippersfan86]

I saw the latest Criminal Minds episode and my roommate was acting all weird so I thought that some ghost would use karate on my swedish butt, I'm serious.

:oldlol:

[RRR3]

http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/si_online/covers/images/2004/0301_large.jpg
Peak KG :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[ashlar]

Thats what happens when you have Adolf Hitler coaching the team.

[millwad]

Thats what happens when you have Adolf Hitler coaching the team.

Adolf is one of the greatest coaches of all-time and Adolf lead the Trailblazers to the finals in '92 while having a first 5 who looked like this;

http://millercards.net/im_jb_large/jb710.jpg

[red1]

how dare they make a roster of white players

[DStebb716]

Stereotypes are very real in basketball. See Jeremy Lin being a smart pg.

However I don't care about this.

:facepalm you wanna know why jeremy lin is considered a smart pg? because he went to ****ing harvard

[millwad]

:facepalm you wanna know why jeremy lin is considered a smart pg? because he went to ****ing harvard

Yeah, but that's because he's asian, all asians are smart... :facepalm

[ashlar]

Yeah, but that's because he's asian, all asians are smart... :facepalm

Lie. Look at Duma.

[millwad]

Lie. Look at Duma.

Lie. Look at Godzuki.

[NuggetsFan]

People will continue to see race as an issue in sports because it is a racial climate. For example, whites make the lions share of the money, yet everyone points to the spolied athlete, not the owners who made it big when blacks werent allowed to play on a level field. Not all the people that made billions off of Jordan and wthletes like him by doing little to no work (in comparison to the work he put in on his game).


You're a f*cking IDIOT. This is by far one of the stupidest things I have ever read on ISH, and that's saying something. "White People" get the lion share of the money? because the NBA is a business and they started it. What you're saying would be like walking in to a factory and being like you're making all the money but their doing all the work to the owner. I know black people were froze out like early early on but nowadays? If they want the lions share of the money, do what anybody else would do. Buy a f*cking team.

People made billions off of Jordan because they put him into a position where he could make millions. Marketing Jordan, creating his brand and image and everything you saw on TV was hard work too. He was great, GOAT probably but he had EXCELLENT people around him and the NBA did him good. When you think about sports stars, Jordan def is up their in terms in marketing. Dude was everywhere.

As for the article welcome to the current generation. People whine and cry about everything non stop. Minnesota doesn't have many black players, their racist. Even tho their history is made up more with black players and we all know they wouldn't turn down a Dwight Howard, LeBron James, Kobe Bryant etc.

[Clippersfan86]

You're a f*cking IDIOT. This is by far one of the stupidest things I have ever read on ISH, and that's saying something. "White People" get the lion share of the money? because the NBA is a business and they started it. What you're saying would be like walking in to a factory and being like you're making all the money but their doing all the work to the owner. I know black people were froze out like early early on but nowadays? If they want the lions share of the money, do what anybody else would do. Buy a f*cking team.

People made billions off of Jordan because they put him into a position where he could make millions. Marketing Jordan, creating his brand and image and everything you saw on TV was hard work too. He was great, GOAT probably but he had EXCELLENT people around him and the NBA did him good. When you think about sports stars, Jordan def is up their in terms in marketing. Dude was everywhere.

As for the article welcome to the current generation. People whine and cry about everything non stop. Minnesota doesn't have many black players, their racist. Even tho their history is made up more with black players and we all know they wouldn't turn down a Dwight Howard, LeBron James, Kobe Bryant etc.

:applause:

[RaininTwos]

:facepalm you wanna know why jeremy lin is considered a smart pg? because he went to ****ing harvard
Smart person/=/smart pg

dude was having near double digit turnover games on the regular last year.

[millwad]

Smart person/=/smart pg

dude was having near double digit turnover games on the regular last year.

Seriously, why are you always so mad?

[BarberSchool]

http://www.motleymama.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Haters.jpg

[stax]

http://www.slamonline.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/issue-21-marbury-garnett.jpg

clearly a racist owner :roll:

http://i.imgur.com/Koc1a.jpg

I don't even know why I'm posting this. Killing time I guess.


As for the article welcome to the current generation. People whine and cry about everything non stop.

:bowdown:

[Umad101]

Lets be real give every team a standardized test, which team would average the highest score?










Thank u very much............next

[RRR3]

Lets be real give every team a standardized test, which team would average the highest score?










Thank u very much............next
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[FireDavidKahn]

I'm not going to read this thread, but if people actually believe this was the intent of Kahn and Glen Taylor, I got some property in Florida to sell you...

What about in 2003-04 we we were filled with BLACK players and made it to the WCF? We sold plenty of ****ing tickets. A lot of these "civil rights activists" are just closet racists themselves. It's sickening.

If Glen Taylor was such a racist why did he give KG a CBA busting contract?

[JD_TO]

Lets be real give every team a standardized test, which team would average the highest score?










Thank u very much............next
Kids of Black immigrants from the Caribbean and Africa score just as well on standardized testing as their white counterparts.

[cranincu]

If 70% of all NBA players are black, making a random 15 man roster with 5 or fewer black players is .36%

If 70% of NBA players have been black since 2000, there is a 73.2% chance that at least one team from 2000-2012 has had at least a 15 man roster with 5 or fewer black players

Eat my nuts people calling the twolves racist

[midatlantic09]

Stereotypes are very real in basketball. See Jeremy Lin being a smart pg.

However I don't care about this.

To be fair, smart PGs don't rack up 6-7 turnovers per game.

[AlphaWolf24]

funhy part is...half those guy's aren't even "white"....

Murrica!!....F' Yeah....

[I<3NBA]

it seems to me the guy complaining is the real racist. against whites.

[AlphaWolf24]

Lets be real give every team a standardized test, which team would average the highest score?










Thank u very much............next


everyone here biting ma style

[Umad101]

everyone here biting ma style
U a legend bro

[JellyBean]

Once the Wolves make the playoffs, all of this noise will die down. I look at it as we are trying to field a team here. If we get 10 white dudes that want to play here, nothing wrong with that. If we get 10 brothers that want to play here, nothing wrong with that either. I don't have a problem with the Wolves getting either color on the roster, just as long as we win and get championships.


Go, Wolves...until Seattle come back.

[bd#1pguard]

main thing no one has mentioned is the weather. No black man prefers the freezing cold to the heat, not one. Thats why so many white guys play in minny.

[TheMarkMadsen]

So what about all the other teams with majority black players are they racist too?

What about those teams with starting 5 of all black players & a black coach?

Are the racist.

Got damn for the first time in 30 years an NBA team has more white than black players & all of a sudden that team is run by racist?

You mean the same guy who has made multiple young black athletes millionairs over the past decade is now racist?


WOW.

[Derka]

A media that is accountable for literally nothing it says...pretty sure the Founders didn't intend that when they talked about free press.

[hawkfan]

Hawks vs. Wolves

Ebony vs. Ivory

[longtime lurker]

So what about all the other teams with majority black players are they racist too?

What about those teams with starting 5 of all black players & a black coach?

Are the racist.

Got damn for the first time in 30 years an NBA team has more white than black players & all of a sudden that team is run by racist?

You mean the same guy who has made multiple young black athletes millionairs over the past decade is now racist?


WOW.
:biggums:

ROFL what? The NBA is like 70% black

Anyways having an intelligent race discussion on this board is pointless because it will eventually devolve to name calling claims of reverse racism(like anyone actually knows what that means) and the ever so popular "How come black people can use the N word but no one else can"

[hangintheair]

We don't ****ing care if your black or whites. As long as we are entertained by their talent and idolizing them. We just want to enjoy basketball.

[SpecialQue]

Idiotic. Fvckin Timberwolves are like the goddamn UN with that international shit they've got. If anything, this writer is racist for suggesting that a team that isn't predominantly black isn't acceptable in the NBA. Is this douchebag doing this for anything other than attention?









































No, he isn't....................NEXT.

--SpecialQue

[TheMarkMadsen]

:biggums:

ROFL what? The NBA is like 70% black

Anyways having an intelligent race discussion on this board is pointless because it will eventually devolve to name calling claims of reverse racism(like anyone actually knows what that means) and the ever so popular "How come black people can use the N word but no one else can"


Yes I know majority of the NBA is black that's why I was asking if teams with majority black players & a black coach are considered racist aswell? Racist towards white people that is.

How can almost every NBA team be majority black & nobody cares but when an NBA team assembles a team with majority of the players being white its suddenly a huge problem?

[Joshumitsu]

So, two sides came off looking stupid:

1. Dumb black wannabe "activists" who actively look for any "wrongdoings" just to use it as an excuse to validate their existence.

2. The media. Liberal educated journalists who suffer white guilt so much and want to be black so bad that they waste their time on articles like these.


But at the end of the day:

Fans don't give a f*ck. Players don't give a f*ck. Coach doesn't give a f*ck.

Black America doesn't give a f*ck. White America doesn't give a f*ck.

Why? Because it's just stupid people making noise.

[FireMcFailPlease]

main thing no one has mentioned is the weather. No black man prefers the freezing cold to the heat, not one. Thats why so many white guys play in minny.
:roll:

solid analysis. considering you're on the road the majority of the winter anyways, and i'll take minnesotas summers over floridas, or texas's.

[LA Lakers]

Clippersfan86, I disagree completely with something you said, not trying to go Al Sharpton but in my view, assembling an all white team to cater to Minnesota would qualify as racist.

[RRR3]

Specialque just bit Alphapup and illsmak in one post :kobe:

[stallionaire]

Useless thread.

If you really think that David Kahn and Adelman sat down with a 'Pros and Cons' list when considering every off-season move they made recently... and then added 'He's white' to the pros section for every white guy... you're dumb as ****.

That's what many of you guys are saying.

Whatever.

I'm ready to watch my team dominate this season. Our time is here baby.

[SpecialQue]

I'm shocked that this thread got to seven pages without someone posting this already:

http://i.imgur.com/Xk1Yv.jpg

[O_City_Thunder]

What a joke :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[Riley Martin]

Are there not NBA teams that are 80%+ black players? There shouldn't be a fuss either way, as long as race/color isn't the deciding criteria for recruitment.

[stallionaire]

Are there not NBA teams that are 80%+ black players? There shouldn't be a fuss either way, as long as race/color isn't the deciding criteria for recruitment.

Race was irrelevant for all of the T-Wolves moves this offseason.

Name better players at positions we could have gotten than:

Kirilenko
Budinger (corner 3 specialist, backup big swingman who will fit right into a pick n'roll offense)
Shved (combo guard with great passing skills, can run a pick n'roll)
Amundson (big guy who can bang around inside)


Most of the people critisizing the teams abundance of white players don't know anything about the players we grabbed or anything about basketball for that matter. So I'm not surprised to be educating y'all.

[longtime lurker]

Yes I know majority of the NBA is black that's why I was asking if teams with majority black players & a black coach are considered racist aswell? Racist towards white people that is.

How can almost every NBA team be majority black & nobody cares but when an NBA team assembles a team with majority of the players being white its suddenly a huge problem?

That makes no sense the majority of the NBA is black based on the talent pool so no duh the majority of the teams would be predominately black. Just like in hockey the majority of players are white and no one actually gives a damn.
This isn't a case of double standards. It's just a case of 2 people seeing something that may or may not be there. Like I said there's no point discussing race because there is never rational discussion on the internet.

[TheBigVeto]

Wow that Terrell guy is super racist. Is he trying to be Hitler of his race?

[ZenMaster]

That makes no sense the majority of the NBA is black based on the talent pool so no duh the majority of the teams would be predominately black. Just like in hockey the majority of players are white and no one actually gives a damn.
This isn't a case of double standards. It's just a case of 2 people seeing something that may or may not be there. Like I said there's no point discussing race because there is never rational discussion on the internet.

And no one gives a damn that the NBA is predominantly black because the talent pool predicts it given the NBA is the national league of the US.
Most best basketball players in the US are black, so the majority of the NBA should be black.
But the Wolves have people from all over the world, so this should all be a non issue.

The equivilant of this situation in the NHL would be the Atlanta Thrashers having a predominantly team of black players, would people have been yelling racism then?

[Go Getter]

You're a f*cking IDIOT. This is by far one of the stupidest things I have ever read on ISH, and that's saying something. "White People" get the lion share of the money? because the NBA is a business and they started it. What you're saying would be like walking in to a factory and being like you're making all the money but their doing all the work to the owner. I know black people were froze out like early early on but nowadays? If they want the lions share of the money, do what anybody else would do. Buy a f*cking team.

People made billions off of Jordan because they put him into a position where he could make millions. Marketing Jordan, creating his brand and image and everything you saw on TV was hard work too. He was great, GOAT probably but he had EXCELLENT people around him and the NBA did him good. When you think about sports stars, Jordan def is up their in terms in marketing. Dude was everywhere.

As for the article welcome to the current generation. People whine and cry about everything non stop. Minnesota doesn't have many black players, their racist. Even tho their history is made up more with black players and we all know they wouldn't turn down a Dwight Howard, LeBron James, Kobe Bryant etc.


1. Leave it to you to get butt hurt and whine then criticize people whining.
2. You said it yourself....black were froze out. And until recently were not even given a fair shot at coaching. Certain teams will never be on the market. It is what is is but my point was that people see the PLAYERS, black rich and gaudy and say they don't deserve the money but look at Jerry H. Miller and Steinbrenners son as hard working businessmen. It's indisputable that pro and college sports make way more money off of blacks than the actual PLAYERS do so I feel that to be a huge misconception that the players make too much. The boss never pays his employees more than he makes but the PLAYERS are made to seem greedy because they don't want to give money to funds that pay guys like George Mikan who played when blacks werwnt even allowed in the league? Now I personally would because its the right thing but I could understand someone's refusal. I know I went off on a tangent but I feel like the NBA, being a players league more than any other league, should give more to the players and they are made to look like greedy thugs a lot when they are being businessmen. Is hold out, talk shit to the media, do whatever I had to do to get in the best financial situation I wanted to but I'd be villified because I'm supposed to be loyal to an org that treats me like cattle? There is so much hypocrisy in how we refer to and judge these guys.

You forgot to say the owners take mist of the risk, a point I would have agreed with....

3. In closing, the NBA, much like America is controlled by whites. White people do the drafting, own most of the teams, coach most of the players. It seems funny to me how this is turned on blacks with the how come blacks make up yadayadayada argument. The league has more blacks than whites because thats who the people want to see play.


I don't care who the Wolves put on their team and no one I talk to about ball does either so whatever bullshit the OP is talkin bout is nonsense.

[LJJ]

I guess this team must be way worse than the teams of the previous seasons, seeing this roster is assembled on racist principles whereas the previous ones on the best available talent. I mean, the previous rosters featured more black players who intrinsically have more quality according to some folks, so this roster will suck balls compared to those previous.

Also, we can never call this team smart. Despite three of their supposed starters (Rubio, Roy and Kirilenko) obviously being among the most intelligent basketball players respective to their positions, never call this team smart. Some racist black people might be offended! :oldlol:

[longtime lurker]

And no one gives a damn that the NBA is predominantly black because the talent pool predicts it given the NBA is the national league of the US.
Most best basketball players in the US are black, so the majority of the NBA should be black.
But the Wolves have people from all over the world, so this should all be a non issue.

The equivilant of this situation in the NHL would be the Atlanta Thrashers having a predominantly team of black players, would people have been yelling racism then?

Yes there would be :oldlol: You'd have people complaining that the Thrashers are racist even though it may not be true. But it doesn't mean that the Thrashers weren't drafting black players to appeal to predominately black population. :confusedshrug:

If there are people that would want to start an all white basketball league, then you'd best believe people would be opposed to a predominately black hockey team.

[plowking]

1. Leave it to you to get butt hurt and whine then criticize people whining.
2. You said it yourself....black were froze out. And until recently were not even given a fair shot at coaching. Certain teams will never be on the market. It is what is is but my point was that people see the PLAYERS, black rich and gaudy and say they don't deserve the money but look at Jerry H. Miller and Steinbrenners son as hard working businessmen. It's indisputable that pro and college sports make way more money off of blacks than the actual PLAYERS do so I feel that to be a huge misconception that the players make too much. The boss never pays his employees more than he makes but the PLAYERS are made to seem greedy because they don't want to give money to funds that pay guys like George Mikan who played when blacks werwnt even allowed in the league? Now I personally would because its the right thing but I could understand someone's refusal. I know I went off on a tangent but I feel like the NBA, being a players league more than any other league, should give more to the players and they are made to look like greedy thugs a lot when they are being businessmen. Is hold out, talk shit to the media, do whatever I had to do to get in the best financial situation I wanted to but I'd be villified because I'm supposed to be loyal to an org that treats me like cattle? There is so much hypocrisy in how we refer to and judge these guys.

You forgot to say the owners take mist of the risk, a point I would have agreed with....

3. In closing, the NBA, much like America is controlled by whites. White people do the drafting, own most of the teams, coach most of the players. It seems funny to me how this is turned on blacks with the how come blacks make up yadayadayada argument. The league has more blacks than whites because thats who the people want to see play.


I don't care who the Wolves put on their team and no one I talk to about ball does either so whatever bullshit the OP is talkin bout is nonsense.

What are you arguing? I seriously don't see your point in any of this. You came into this thread and started random blabbering about something completely different.

Are you honestly going to sit here and tell us that the "observation" made by the person in the article isn't absurd and stupid?

[Grinder]

What are you arguing? I seriously don't see your point in any of this. You came into this thread and started random blabbering about something completely different.

Are you honestly going to sit here and tell us that the "observation" made by the person in the article isn't absurd and stupid?

That's "Go Getter" for you, always looking for racism where it doesn't exist. :oldlol:

The whole premise of that so called activists' argument is so absurd that the T-Wolves personnel shouldn't have even dignified it with a response.

[Clippersfan86]

That's "Go Getter" for you, always looking for racism where it doesn't exist. :oldlol:

The whole premise of that so called activists' argument is so absurd that the T-Wolves personnel shouldn't have even dignified it with a response.

What's sad is the owner said he's going to work on diversifying the roster even more due to this pressure (unless I misread it). :facepalm

[LA Lakers]

Again Clippersfan86 not to go all Al Sharpton(dont trust any ***** with a perm), but, assembling an all white team to cater to Minnesota would qualify as racist.

[ZenMaster]

Yes there would be :oldlol: You'd have people complaining that the Thrashers are racist even though it may not be true. But it doesn't mean that the Thrashers weren't drafting black players to appeal to predominately black population. :confusedshrug:

If there are people that would want to start an all white basketball league, then you'd best believe people would be opposed to a predominately black hockey team.

People would make jokes and talk about it like they have with the Wolves, but do you think white civil rights people would be getting articles made about it in the paper?

[LA Lakers]

With that said, really hope the T Wolves make the playoffs despite the bad luck with injuries cuz those white dudes know how to ball.

[Clippersfan86]

Again Clippersfan86 not to go all Al Sharpton(dont trust any ***** with a perm), but, assembling an all white team to cater to Minnesota would qualify as racist.

Sorry I missed the post. I guess it could fall under discrimination and therefor racism. It definitely didn't come out the way I intended.

[Balla_Status]

:roll:

solid analysis. considering you're on the road the majority of the winter anyways, and i'll take minnesotas summers over floridas, or texas's.

Yeah, **** beaches. Those suck.

[TheMarkMadsen]

What's sad is the owner said he's going to work on diversifying the roster even more due to this pressure (unless I misread it). :facepalm


That'd be horrible, I don't understand the problem with this team bein comprised of mostly spanaird/white american players.

Is there some unwritten rule of basketball that states you need a specific # of black people on your roster?

[TheMarkMadsen]

Again Clippersfan86 not to go all Al Sharpton(dont trust any ***** with a perm), but, assembling an all white team to cater to Minnesota would qualify as racist.


Serious question b/c I haven't read through the thread but is Minnesota being accused of trying to cater to their fanbase by bringing in white players?

If so the Hawks are next :lol

[Clippersfan86]

Serious question b/c I haven't read through the thread but is Minnesota being accused of trying to cater to their fanbase by bringing in white players?

If so the Hawks are next :lol

Yes. The civil rights guy is claiming Minnesota is trying to cater to their predominantly white fanbase

[Clippersfan86]

That'd be horrible, I don't understand the problem with this team bein comprised of mostly spanaird/white american players.

Is there some unwritten rule of basketball that states you need a specific # of black people on your roster?

Yes. The minimum is 7 black players per roster. Rule 113.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Yes. The civil rights guy is claiming Minnesota is trying to cater to their predominantly white fanbase


Wow:facepalm


Who's going to be the white civil rights rep who calls out the Hawks? Any takers. They've built a predominantly black team for their predominantly black fan base & honestly I find that to be a bit RACIST.

They had Kirk Hinric but now his roster spot is taken by two black players.. hmm smells fishy.

[Clippersfan86]

Wow:facepalm


Who's going to be the white civil rights rep who calls out the Hawks? Any takers. They've built a predominantly black team for their predominantly black fan base & honestly I find that to be a bit RACIST.

They had Kirk Hinric but now his roster spot is taken by two black players.. hmm smells fishy.

This is all I was saying and Go Getter wrote me a 10 paragraph response full of hate and practically called for my head :oldlol:

[Go Getter]

You're a f*cking IDIOT. This is by far one of the stupidest things I have ever read on ISH, and that's saying something. "White People" get the lion share of the money? because the NBA is a business and they started it. What you're saying would be like walking in to a factory and being like you're making all the money but their doing all the work to the owner. I know black people were froze out like early early on but nowadays? If they want the lions share of the money, do what anybody else would do. Buy a f*cking team.

People made billions off of Jordan because they put him into a position where he could make millions. Marketing Jordan, creating his brand and image and everything you saw on TV was hard work too. He was great, GOAT probably but he had EXCELLENT people around him and the NBA did him good. When you think about sports stars, Jordan def is up their in terms in marketing. Dude was everywhere.

As for the article welcome to the current generation. People whine and cry about everything non stop. Minnesota doesn't have many black players, their racist. Even tho their history is made up more with black players and we all know they wouldn't turn down a Dwight Howard, LeBron James, Kobe Bryant etc.


1. Leave it to you to get butt hurt and whine then criticize people whining.
2. You said it yourself....black were froze out. And until recently were not even given a fair shot at coaching. Certain teams will never be on the market. It is what is is but my point was that people see the PLAYERS, black rich and gaudy and say they don't deserve the money but look at Jerry H. Miller and Steinbrenners son as hard working businessmen. It's indisputable that pro and college sports make way more money off of blacks than the actual PLAYERS do so I feel that to be a huge misconception that the players make too much. The boss never pays his employees more than he makes but the PLAYERS are made to seem greedy because they don't want to give money to funds that pay guys like George Mikan who played when blacks werwnt even allowed in the league? Now I personally would because its the right thing but I could understand someone's refusal. I know I went off on a tangent but I feel like the NBA, being a players league more than any other league, should give more to the players and they are made to look like greedy thugs a lot when they are being businessmen. Is hold out, talk shit to the media, do whatever I had to do to get in the best financial situation I wanted to but I'd be villified because I'm supposed to be loyal to an org that treats me like cattle? There is so much hypocrisy in how we refer to and judge these guys.

You forgot to say the owners take mist of the risk, a point I would have agreed with....

3. In closing, the NBA, much like America is controlled by whites. White people do the drafting, own most of the teams, coach most of the players. It seems funny to me how this is turned on blacks with the how come blacks make up yadayadayada argument. The league has more blacks than whites because thats who the people want to see play.


I don't care who the Wolves put on their team and no one I talk to about ball does either so whatever bullshit the OP is talkin bout is nonsense.

[LamarOdom]

Kids of Black immigrants from the Caribbean and Africa score just as well on standardized testing as their white counterparts.

This is ISH not comedy central.

[Clippersfan86]

1. Leave it to you to get butt hurt and whine then criticize people whining.
2. You said it yourself....black were froze out. And until recently were not even given a fair shot at coaching. Certain teams will never be on the market. It is what is is but my point was that people see the PLAYERS, black rich and gaudy and say they don't deserve the money but look at Jerry H. Miller and Steinbrenners son as hard working businessmen. It's indisputable that pro and college sports make way more money off of blacks than the actual PLAYERS do so I feel that to be a huge misconception that the players make too much. The boss never pays his employees more than he makes but the PLAYERS are made to seem greedy because they don't want to give money to funds that pay guys like George Mikan who played when blacks werwnt even allowed in the league? Now I personally would because its the right thing but I could understand someone's refusal. I know I went off on a tangent but I feel like the NBA, being a players league more than any other league, should give more to the players and they are made to look like greedy thugs a lot when they are being businessmen. Is hold out, talk shit to the media, do whatever I had to do to get in the best financial situation I wanted to but I'd be villified because I'm supposed to be loyal to an org that treats me like cattle? There is so much hypocrisy in how we refer to and judge these guys.

You forgot to say the owners take mist of the risk, a point I would have agreed with....

3. In closing, the NBA, much like America is controlled by whites. White people do the drafting, own most of the teams, coach most of the players. It seems funny to me how this is turned on blacks with the how come blacks make up yadayadayada argument. The league has more blacks than whites because thats who the people want to see play.


I don't care who the Wolves put on their team and no one I talk to about ball does either so whatever bullshit the OP is talkin bout is nonsense.

Why did you just repost this crap? My eyes are burning yet again.

[red1]

1. Leave it to you to get butt hurt and whine then criticize people whining.
2. You said it yourself....black were froze out. And until recently were not even given a fair shot at coaching. Certain teams will never be on the market. It is what is is but my point was that people see the PLAYERS, black rich and gaudy and say they don't deserve the money but look at Jerry H. Miller and Steinbrenners son as hard working businessmen. It's indisputable that pro and college sports make way more money off of blacks than the actual PLAYERS do so I feel that to be a huge misconception that the players make too much. The boss never pays his employees more than he makes but the PLAYERS are made to seem greedy because they don't want to give money to funds that pay guys like George Mikan who played when blacks werwnt even allowed in the league? Now I personally would because its the right thing but I could understand someone's refusal. I know I went off on a tangent but I feel like the NBA, being a players league more than any other league, should give more to the players and they are made to look like greedy thugs a lot when they are being businessmen. Is hold out, talk shit to the media, do whatever I had to do to get in the best financial situation I wanted to but I'd be villified because I'm supposed to be loyal to an org that treats me like cattle? There is so much hypocrisy in how we refer to and judge these guys.

You forgot to say the owners take mist of the risk, a point I would have agreed with....

3. In closing, the NBA, much like America is controlled by whites. White people do the drafting, own most of the teams, coach most of the players. It seems funny to me how this is turned on blacks with the how come blacks make up yadayadayada argument. The league has more blacks than whites because thats who the people want to see play.


I don't care who the Wolves put on their team and no one I talk to about ball does either so whatever bullshit the OP is talkin bout is nonsense.
and that's all that matters

[red1]

Why did you just repost this crap? My eyes are burning yet again.
was a decent post actually

[LamarOdom]

Wow that Terrell guy is super racist. Is he trying to be Hitler of his race?

Elijah Mohammed would be the name

[FireDavidKahn]

Wow:facepalm


Who's going to be the white civil rights rep who calls out the Hawks? Any takers. They've built a predominantly black team for their predominantly black fan base & honestly I find that to be a bit RACIST.

They had Kirk Hinric but now his roster spot is taken by two black players.. hmm smells fishy.
Just to give you guys a heads up, no one is taking this "Civil rights activist" clown seriously in Minneapolis.

[Clippersfan86]

was a decent post actually

It's not a bad post... just a long rant :biggums: . Also he doesn't space his stuff out so that hurts my eyes literally.

[R.I.P.]

Course Adelman is racist. The guy got rid of Jason Williams for Mike Bibby, because Williams had the nickname Chocolate, didn

[plowking]

was a decent post actually

No its not. When you consider he started an argument that had nothing to do with anything posted in the thread.

All anyone had to do was come in this thread and say that the accusation is ridiculous. You know? Since it is...

[TheMarkMadsen]

Just to give you guys a heads up, no one is taking this "Civil rights activist" clown seriously in Minneapolis.

I hope not, the twolves have put together a good roster & finally don't look like bottom feeders anymore. It'd be a shame for this to get in the way.

[wakencdukest]

These Twin Cities black leaders really think that white fans want an inferior team as long as they're all white? What a f#cking insult. Talk about stirring up shit for no reason, what a couple of misguided dipshits. Black brothers: don't fall for this dumb shit, think about it and come up with your own conclusions.

[Clippersfan86]

No its not. When you consider he started an argument that had nothing to do with anything posted in the thread.

All anyone had to do was come in this thread and say that the accusation is ridiculous. You know? Since it is...

:applause: dude blew up on me for my opinion which I already apologized for it coming out a way I didn't intend. We don't need 27 paragraphs, including a repost about it.

[Go Getter]

Truth be told I like seeing a squad that doesnt fit the mold of what people think it should look like no matter what the circumstances are as long as they play well together and win ball games. I'm rooting for the T'Wolves; hoping Rubio comes back strong and Roy stays healthy.

[Go Getter]

No its not. When you consider he started an argument that had nothing to do with anything posted in the thread.

All anyone had to do was come in this thread and say that the accusation is ridiculous. You know? Since it is...
He said that, "we should start a interest group asking why there aren't any white players in the league" Sparky, follow along.

[SpecialQue]

Are we gonna act like the Timberwolves don't watch American History X before games to get pumped (while Roy fidgets uncomfortably on the side)?

[d.bball.guy]

lol @ B. Roys Comment:

"The only problem we have is in the weight room, arguing over what music we're going to listen to."
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[RoseCity07]

Kevin Garnett is one of the blackest NBA players I've ever seen. He is who I think of when I think of a TWolves franchise player. They aren't racist. White players will always make it in the NBA because basketball is about skill and smarts. Steve Nash and Dirk like players will always come around.

[NumberSix]

Blacks are hugely overrepresented in the NBA relative to their percentage of the US population. If you think that's the right way, then you would have to believe that blacks are just inherently better athletes/players, which itself is racial stereotyping.

You can't have it both ways. You can't be mad when 1 single team's white demographic is 70% (which accurately corresponds to the overall US population) and have your only argument be that blacks should be overrepresented based solely on your belief that blacks are inherently superior. It's you that is demanding racial preferences.

[atljonesbro]

Sh1t give the Hawks some of them white dudes cuz most of them can ball.

[tomtucker]

Are we gonna act like the Timberwolves don't watch American History X before games to get pumped (while Roy fidgets uncomfortably on the side)?
:lol :roll:

[tomtucker]

Blacks are hugely overrepresented in the NBA relative to their percentage of the US population. If you think that's the right way, then you would have to believe that blacks are just inherently better athletes/players, which itself is racial stereotyping.

You can't have it both ways. You can't be mad when 1 single team's white demographic is 70% (which accurately corresponds to the overall US population) and have your only argument be that blacks should be overrepresented based solely on your belief that blacks are inherently superior. It's you that is demanding racial preferences.

I belive that is down to 50%.....soon 40%......black pop. down too........latino pop. are going though the roof insted ......

[FireDavidKahn]

I belive that is down to 50%.....soon 40%......black pop. down too........latino pop. are going though the roof insted ......
White or European Americans make up 72.4% of the United States right now...

[BlueandGold]

Has anyone thought that this is just coincidence? They have a lot of white players but a lot of them are top prospects that any team in the league would go after. It's not like the Timberwolves have been historically only trying to get white players or anything.. this is just an aberration type of thing where a bunch of decent white players happened to line up at the same time on the FA/trade market.

[pegasus]

Jeez, what are they gonna say next, that the Raptors are trying to assemble a Euro-heavy team in an American-dominant league?

[Heavincent]

Has anyone thought that this is just coincidence? They have a lot of white players but a lot of them are top prospects that any team in the league would go after. It's not like the Timberwolves have been historically only trying to get white players or anything.. this is just an aberration type of thing where a bunch of decent white players happened to line up at the same time on the FA/trade market.

It's nothing more than a coincidence. Anybody who suggests otherwise is being racist and stupid.

I think SpecialQue said it best. The only racist one is the retard mentioned in the OP. He doesn't think it's acceptable that a team consists mostly of white players.

[Umad101]

When a white athlete makes a nice play.........it's called an intelligent move



When a black athlete makes a nice play.........it's called an athletic move

[FireDavidKahn]

When a white athlete makes a nice play.........it's called an intelligent move



When a black athlete makes a nice play.........it's called an athletic move
I love shit like this.

When someone refers to a player as "deceptively athletic", they are always talking about a white guy.

[FireMcFailPlease]

I love shit like this.

When someone refers to a player as "deceptively athletic", they are always talking about a white guy.
what about comparing lighter skinned black guys to other lighter skinned black guys..

"delonte west reminds me so much of jason kidd!"

[Talent]

Diversity suddenly means not white....I thought it meant something that resembles a decent distribution of color. I refuse to use the term "race" as we are all human.

[NumberSix]

Diversity suddenly means not white....I thought it meant something that resembles a decent distribution of color. I refuse to use the term "race" as we are all human.
Huh? What exactly do you think the word "race" means? It literally EXCLUSIVELY applies to humans. That's like saying "I refuse to use the word month because they're all days".

[flipogb]

Almundson and Stiemsma are whatever, but the rest are good players so I dont see the racism unless they had 5 or more Luke Walton level guys

[TheeBeast]

"Day One, we were all in the elevator and I kind of looked up," he said about a crowded ride with many of his new teammates, "and I was just like, 'Where is everybody?' "
Everybody, in this case, being black teammates.

The funny thing about "racism" is that it could go either way. But you'd only realize that if you weren't a little racist yourself...

That being said, the word racism means the thought of being superior- while the T-Wolves are hardly superior to anyone :roll: :roll:

[nbarumorz]

Diversity suddenly means not white....I thought it meant something that resembles a decent distribution of color. I refuse to use the term "race" as we are all human.


Troll. You are pretty much saying that you don't see color. :applause:

[AlphaWolf24]

Troll. You are pretty much saying that you don't see color. :applause:

- no he is speaking in scientific terms...Scientificully/technically speaking...thier is no such thing as Race...

- Humans all belong to the same species....catagorizing people based on skin color is pointless...( and hapens to be a very old barbaric social form...that's it)

- Might as well be upset that a NBA Team has all tall people....or all people with brown hair....as catagorizing skin color is the same thing.

[Court Vision]

Tyrone Tyrrell....

[stephanieg]

Random news comments from a couple months ago on the euphemisms and backhanded compliments the announcers will have to say.



I don't even know how if it's physically possible for each one of them to be the first guy in the gym and the last to leave.

They walk in and out at the same exact times. They are true team players.

Next year they're going to be the scrappiest team that gives 110%.

High motor guys.

Good chemistry, high character players. Great in the locker room.

They bring their lunchpails to work every day.

Really represent the state of Minnesota.

Remember where you were when the Cream Team was formed!

[NumberSix]

- no he is speaking in scientific terms...Scientificully/technically speaking...thier is no such thing as Race...

- Humans all belong to the same species....catagorizing people based on skin color is pointless...( and hapens to be a very old barbaric social form...that's it)

- Might as well be upset that a NBA Team has all tall people....or all people with brown hair....as catagorizing skin color is the same thing.
Humans are just animals like anything else. Categorizing is just tracking variation. There's nothing wrong with recording physical variation amongst animals. Humans included. It's actually very helpful. You couldn't track our evolutionary history without keeping close tabs on human variation throughout our history.

There are certain diseases and deficiencies that afflict certain races. Should we just not study why because its "racist" to acknowledge that there are variations in humans?

[D.J.]

The thing is Minnesota isn't a team that targets solely American Caucasians. They have also employed a significant amount of foreigners. It's not like they're a team hiring only Jason Williams', Brad Millers, Dan Majerles, and Brian Scalabrines. Last year alone, they had Ricky Rubio(Hispanic, though closer to white), Nikola Pekovic, Darko Milicic, and J.J. Barea(Hispanic, but closer to white). Rick Adelman will play you if you deserve the playing time. He had no problem playing Webber, Bibby, Christie, and Bobby Jackson.

[TheeBeast]

Humans are just animals like anything else. Categorizing is just tracking variation. There's nothing wrong with recording physical variation amongst animals. Humans included. It's actually very helpful. You couldn't track our evolutionary history without keeping close tabs on human variation throughout our history.

There are certain diseases and deficiencies that afflict certain races. Should we just not study why because its "racist" to acknowledge that there are variations in humans?

The point he was trying to make is: It's one thing to differentiate people through physical attributes, which all animals and humans do by nature. But its another thing to see those attributes as a reason to categorize people into different social groups based primarily on physical appearances without taking into account one's individuality

[MeLO MvP 15]

T-Wolves All-Time Roster: http://www.nba.com/timberwolves/roster/alltime_roster.html

By my count they've had 136 black players and 41 white players. So, historically, they've been 76.8% black. But that wasn't a problem. :rolleyes:
Seriously, this right here. So sick of double standards. We won't be truly free of racism (well as much as possible) until people realize that it's not a one way street and you can't go around shouting "That's racist!" like it's nothing, it's a very serious acquisition.

[FireDavidKahn]

Humans are just animals like anything else. Categorizing is just tracking variation. There's nothing wrong with recording physical variation amongst animals. Humans included. It's actually very helpful. You couldn't track our evolutionary history without keeping close tabs on human variation throughout our history.

There are certain diseases and deficiencies that afflict certain races. Should we just not study why because its "racist" to acknowledge that there are variations in humans?
One obvious example of this is the Rocker jaw.

[sodapop]

Firstly, have any of you ever been to Minnesota? I lived in Duluth and St. Paul almost a decade ago. It's not like the rest of the United States. Minnesota is another country inside the United States, isolated. Minnesota IS the best state in the union and the people in Minnesota are no different from the weather. They are cold to outsiders and very warming once they get to know you. There's no warm welcoming in Minnesota. Very cautious people, also progressive. The Beatles, Ice T and multiple of entertainers either had a hard time in Minnesota or can't understand Minnesotans. The Minnesota 'COLD' reputation is the main reason why NBA players don't want to play in Minnesota. Everything is cold and somewhat unknown in Minnesota. Secondly, Minnesota does not have a huge basketball market or fan base. Twins, Vikings, Wild and Gopher sports rule the sports world in Minnesota. Twolves are so and so. Since KG, the Twolves basketball market haven't bounced back successfully. Thirdly, the truth, I'll admit, Minnesota is very white and does have a fast growing immigrant population - a small African American population. The Somalian population almost double the African American population. Basically, it boils down to geographic of the population. It wouldn't surprise me if Minnesota became the mecca of American soccer, seriously. Twolves accused of racism is very, extremely ignorant.

[FireDavidKahn]

Firstly, have any of you ever been to Minnesota? I lived in Duluth and St. Paul almost a decade ago. It's not like the rest of the United States. Minnesota is another country inside the United States, isolated. Minnesota IS the best state in the union and the people in Minnesota are no different from the weather. They are cold to outsiders and very warming once they get to know you. There's no warm welcoming in Minnesota. Very cautious people, also progressive. The Beatles, Ice T and multiple of entertainers either had a hard time in Minnesota or can't understand Minnesotans. The Minnesota 'COLD' reputation is the main reason why NBA players don't want to play in Minnesota. Everything is cold and somewhat unknown in Minnesota. Secondly, Minnesota does not have a huge basketball market or fan base. Twins, Vikings, Wild and Gopher sports rule the sports world in Minnesota. Twolves are so and so. Since KG, the Twolves basketball market haven't bounced back successfully. Thirdly, the truth, I'll admit, Minnesota is very white and does have a fast growing immigrant population - a small African American population. The Somalian population almost double the African American population. Basically, it boils down to geographic of the population. It wouldn't surprise me if Minnesota became the mecca of American soccer, seriously. Twolves accused of racism is very, extremely ignorant.
This is honestly such a horrible take I don't even know where you got these things. First of all, your whole opinion that we are cold to outsiders is completely wrong.,Minnesotan's don't care and we actually have a reputation for being extremely
nice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_nice). Second of all, this perception that NBA players don't want to play in Minnesota seems isolated to Basketball only. The Vikings have no problems keeping players they want to or going out and getting players. The Wild just signed the 2 biggest FA's in all of hockey. The Twins are just horrid right now. Thirdly, your assertion that the Gophers and Twins are more popular than the Wolves is way off base as well. The Gophers get openly mocked in every local Minneapolis newspaper, everyone thinks they are a joke. The Twins, despite recently building the best ballpark in all of MLB, are losing so many fans because the Pohlads are terrible owners. Finally, the Wolves made a 2,200 attendance increase from 2011 to 2012 when all we did was add a foreigner to this team. Rubio has said that he has received such a warm welcome that he considers Minneapolis to be his home now and he also said he loves the summers here.

This post of your is so uninformed I have to come to the conclusion that you must have been scorned somehow while you lived in St. Paul.

[sodapop]

This is honestly such a horrible take I don't even know where you got these things. First of all, your whole opinion that we are cold to outsiders is completely wrong.,Minnesotan's don't care and we actually have a reputation for being extremely
nice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_nice). Second of all, this perception that NBA players don't want to play in Minnesota seems isolated to Basketball only. The Vikings have no problems keeping players they want to or going out and getting players. The Wild just signed the 2 biggest FA's in all of hockey. The Twins are just horrid right now. Thirdly, your assertion that the Gophers and Twins are more popular than the Wolves is way off base as well. The Gophers get openly mocked in every local Minneapolis newspaper, everyone thinks they are a joke. The Twins, despite recently building the best ballpark in all of MLB, are losing so many fans because the Pohlads are terrible owners. Finally, the Wolves made a 2,200 attendance increase from 2011 to 2012 when all we did was add a foreigner to this team. Rubio has said that he has received such a warm welcome that he considers Minneapolis to be his home now and he also said he loves the summers here.

This post of your is so uninformed I have to come to the conclusion that you must have been scorned somehow while you lived in St. Paul.

No, I'm correct about Minnesota. BTW, I also traveled all over the state of Minnesota, engaged in many conversations with the people and I lived outside Minneapolis-St. Paul, in Duluth. I have more experience and a better outlook on Minnesota than you. You're from Minnesota? That's very sad you have no clue about your surroundings. While you're yapping about one side of a city, I'm talking about the state of Minnesota as a whole. I stand clear on what I've said about Minnesota. I highly advise, highly recommend you to step out the box now & then, look beyond Minneapolis, you will learn something new about the state you live in and your fellow Minnesotans.

[rezznor]

Firstly, have any of you ever been to Minnesota? I lived in Duluth and St. Paul almost a decade ago. It's not like the rest of the United States. Minnesota is another country inside the United States, isolated. Minnesota IS the best state in the union and the people in Minnesota are no different from the weather. They are cold to outsiders and very warming once they get to know you. There's no warm welcoming in Minnesota. Very cautious people, also progressive. The Beatles, Ice T and multiple of entertainers either had a hard time in Minnesota or can't understand Minnesotans. The Minnesota 'COLD' reputation is the main reason why NBA players don't want to play in Minnesota. Everything is cold and somewhat unknown in Minnesota. Secondly, Minnesota does not have a huge basketball market or fan base. Twins, Vikings, Wild and Gopher sports rule the sports world in Minnesota. Twolves are so and so. Since KG, the Twolves basketball market haven't bounced back successfully. Thirdly, the truth, I'll admit, Minnesota is very white and does have a fast growing immigrant population - a small African American population. The Somalian population almost double the African American population. Basically, it boils down to geographic of the population. It wouldn't surprise me if Minnesota became the mecca of American soccer, seriously. Twolves accused of racism is very, extremely ignorant.


stopped reading right about there

[NumberSix]

Firstly, have any of you ever been to Minnesota? I lived in Duluth and St. Paul almost a decade ago. It's not like the rest of the United States. Minnesota is another country inside the United States, isolated. Minnesota IS the best state in the union and the people in Minnesota are no different from the weather. They are cold to outsiders and very warming once they get to know you. There's no warm welcoming in Minnesota. Very cautious people, also progressive. The Beatles, Ice T and multiple of entertainers either had a hard time in Minnesota or can't understand Minnesotans. The Minnesota 'COLD' reputation is the main reason why NBA players don't want to play in Minnesota. Everything is cold and somewhat unknown in Minnesota. Secondly, Minnesota does not have a huge basketball market or fan base. Twins, Vikings, Wild and Gopher sports rule the sports world in Minnesota. Twolves are so and so. Since KG, the Twolves basketball market haven't bounced back successfully. Thirdly, the truth, I'll admit, Minnesota is very white and does have a fast growing immigrant population - a small African American population. The Somalian population almost double the African American population. Basically, it boils down to geographic of the population. It wouldn't surprise me if Minnesota became the mecca of American soccer, seriously. Twolves accused of racism is very, extremely ignorant.
:biggums:

[FireDavidKahn]

No, I'm correct about Minnesota. BTW, I also traveled all over the state of Minnesota, engaged in many conversations with the people and I lived outside Minneapolis-St. Paul, in Duluth. I have more experience and a better outlook on Minnesota than you. You're from Minnesota? That's very sad you have no clue about your surroundings. While you're yapping about one side of a city, I'm talking about the state of Minnesota as a whole. I stand clear on what I've said about Minnesota. I highly advise, highly recommend you to step out the box now & then, look beyond Minneapolis, you will learn something new about the state you live in and your fellow Minnesotans.
No, you are wrong. I as well have traveled about Minnesota and nearly every state west of the Mississipi. What your problem is, is that you are taking the opinions of people above US route 2. Those people that live above that route would be more abrasive to foreigners since it is so far north that they never get them. Those people are hardly every exposed to different cultures and because of that they probably wouldn't be too excepting. Fortunately, only a small percentage of the Minnesotan population lives above US route 2. The fact that you ignore the national viewpoint about Minnesota Nice proves your bias.

[KGMN]

This is honestly such a horrible take I don't even know where you got these things. First of all, your whole opinion that we are cold to outsiders is completely wrong.,Minnesotan's don't care and we actually have a reputation for being extremely
nice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_nice). Second of all, this perception that NBA players don't want to play in Minnesota seems isolated to Basketball only. The Vikings have no problems keeping players they want to or going out and getting players. The Wild just signed the 2 biggest FA's in all of hockey. The Twins are just horrid right now. Thirdly, your assertion that the Gophers and Twins are more popular than the Wolves is way off base as well. The Gophers get openly mocked in every local Minneapolis newspaper, everyone thinks they are a joke. The Twins, despite recently building the best ballpark in all of MLB, are losing so many fans because the Pohlads are terrible owners. Finally, the Wolves made a 2,200 attendance increase from 2011 to 2012 when all we did was add a foreigner to this team. Rubio has said that he has received such a warm welcome that he considers Minneapolis to be his home now and he also said he loves the summers here.

This post of your is so uninformed I have to come to the conclusion that you must have been scorned somehow while you lived in St. Paul.

I live in Minnesota and I agree with you much more than him.

[creepingdeath]

- no he is speaking in scientific terms...Scientificully/technically speaking...thier is no such thing as Race...

- Humans all belong to the same species....catagorizing people based on skin color is pointless...( and hapens to be a very old barbaric social form...that's it)

- Might as well be upset that a NBA Team has all tall people....or all people with brown hair....as catagorizing skin color is the same thing.
Never thought I'd live to see the day, but your post is spot-on. The sad thing is, though, that in American academia the term "race" is still used - despite it's unscientific nature, like you correctly said.

[Clippersfan86]

Yea I too always wondered why people say "race". Even in politics they use the word RACE. We are all HUMAN race.

[creepingdeath]

Yea I too always wondered why people say "race". Even in politics they use the word RACE. We are all HUMAN race.
Americans.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VcZXcH1Kfts/TaEIl1arrfI/AAAAAAAAADA/p9VI68Itql0/s1600/Yao%2Bming%2Btrollface.png

[LJJ]

Americans.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VcZXcH1Kfts/TaEIl1arrfI/AAAAAAAAADA/p9VI68Itql0/s1600/Yao%2Bming%2Btrollface.png

I know right. Herrenvolk like us they are not.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VcZXcH1Kfts/TaEIl1arrfI/AAAAAAAAADA/p9VI68Itql0/s1600/Yao%2Bming%2Btrollface.png

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

I live in Minnesota and I agree with you much more than him.

What did you expect? That clown is a rockabilly greaser douche. :oldlol:

[creepingdeath]

I know right. Herrenvolk like us they are not.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VcZXcH1Kfts/TaEIl1arrfI/AAAAAAAAADA/p9VI68Itql0/s1600/Yao%2Bming%2Btrollface.png
You set the bar pretty low if that is your comparison. :lol

[NumberSix]

Yea I too always wondered why people say "race". Even in politics they use the word RACE. We are all HUMAN race.
As opposed to? The Martian race? :confusedshrug:

[Balla_Status]

lol @ Minnesota being the best state in the union. A state that nobody gives a **** about or cares about.

A state that nobody wants to go to and provides absolutely nothing to the general well being of the United States.

Gimmie Texas bitch.

[Balla_Status]

Americans.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VcZXcH1Kfts/TaEIl1arrfI/AAAAAAAAADA/p9VI68Itql0/s1600/Yao%2Bming%2Btrollface.png

A german talking shit about race...Hitler much?

[creepingdeath]

A german talking shit about race...Hitler much?
Butthurt much?

"But, but, but.. look at your history, that excuses our own, even the sh*t that's still going on RIGHT NOW"

Methinks thou dost protest too much.

[stallionaire]

lol Minnesota is such a better state than Texas is crazy. too many nutjob uneducated people in Texas. Heard cousins can marry down there too. So disgusting. Quality of life in Minnesota is the envy of the U.S.. Best test scores, most healthy people, most livable metropolitan area, most outoorsy stuff to do, top universities, list goes on.

And no rednecks. Love it.

[FireDavidKahn]

lol @ Minnesota being the best state in the union. A state that nobody gives a **** about or cares about.

A state that nobody wants to go to and provides absolutely nothing to the general well being of the United States.

Gimmie Texas bitch.
You are so clueless it hurts to read your post.:oldlol:

[sodapop]

What did you expect? That clown is a rockabilly greaser douche. :oldlol:

Yo mama Punk! :lol

[FireDavidKahn]

Sorry to bump this thread but if you guys want an idea of how big of a clown these two activists are (Tyrone Terril and Ronald Edwards) listen to this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8GnQmNx_k-Q

This guy is a closet racist.

[LJJ]

Sorry to bump this thread but if you guys want an idea of how big of a clown these two activists are (Tyrone Terril and Ronald Edwards) listen to this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8GnQmNx_k-Q

This guy is a closet racist.

He's not really a closet racist. It's pretty out in the open if you ask me.

[BlueandGold]

It's nothing more than a coincidence. Anybody who suggests otherwise is being racist and stupid.

I think SpecialQue said it best. The only racist one is the retard mentioned in the OP. He doesn't think it's acceptable that a team consists mostly of white players.
K just making sure people understand the difference.. the fact that it's 12 pages is :facepalm

[Snoop_Cat]

I'm surprised Al Sharpton isn't all over this.

[CeltsGarlic]

fvcking racists!

[sportjames23]

LOL can we get Clippersfan back here?

[FireDavidKahn]

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