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longhornfan1234
11-02-2012, 06:18 PM
Go here: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2012/ecalculator#?battleground
Click on the states to change them to who you think will win.


Post your results. I'll bump this thread after the election.

My prediction: 272 Romney, 266 Obama.

niko
11-02-2012, 06:22 PM
283 255 Obama.

Northeast going to bail your morons down south out again against your will again. Sigh.

Is He Ill
11-02-2012, 06:24 PM
275 Obama 263 Romney

longhornfan1234
11-02-2012, 06:25 PM
283 255 Obama.

Northeast going to bail your morons down south out again against your will again. Sigh.
:roll: :roll:

Cangri
11-02-2012, 06:27 PM
281 Obama :banana:

257 Romney :no:


But I'm hoping Nate Silver's model comes true, it has Obama at 303.

embersyc
11-02-2012, 09:23 PM
281 Obama :banana:

257 Romney :no:


But I'm hoping Nate Silver's model comes true, it has Obama at 303.

This is pretty much what I think.

Been looking at all the data and it seems like Romney takes Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, Colorado.

Obama takes Nevada, Ohio, Iowa and New Hampshire

GreatGreg
11-02-2012, 09:24 PM
Go here: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2012/ecalculator#?battleground
Click on the states to change them to who you think will win.


Post your results. I'll bump this thread after the election.

My prediction: 272 Romney, 266 Obama.
Lol, Romney isn't going to win.

MavsSuperFan
11-02-2012, 10:05 PM
Lol, Romney isn't going to win.


This is true:D

President Obama is going to be much more conservative than campaign Obama:(

Longhornfan is going to get basically what he wants, cuts to entitlements.

KevinNYC
11-02-2012, 10:44 PM
I looked at 538 and gave Obama all the states leaning his way plus Florida with is .5% for Romney.

Obama 332
Romney total: 206

RedBlackAttack
11-02-2012, 11:04 PM
I just wrote a story today about early voting. Almost 40% of Ohio has already voted and exit polling of those early voters show Obama is getting something like 70+% of early votes.

I went to the Board of Elections to talk with the director and there was a line going through the building, out the door and into the parking lot.

By the time Election Day rolls around, Obama is going to have a significant lead. The turn out is far greater than expected in Northeast Ohio, which is great news for Obama because this is his stronghold in Ohio (Cleveland, Youngstown, Akron, Warren, etc).

Plus, I think this hurricane has really taken some steam out of Romney's post-debate surge. Even though Obama 'won' the final two debates, I thought, the first one is what sticks out in people's minds and those races were getting really tight in the swing states.

Since Sandra hit, Romney has been almost completely out of the news and you have guys like Christie praising Obama on every major news network. Hard to believe anyone is still on the fence, but for those who are, it may make an impact.

Oh...

Obama wins 282-256.

General
11-02-2012, 11:22 PM
I just wrote a story today about early voting. Almost 40% of Ohio has already voted and exit polling of those early voters show Obama is getting something like 70+% of early votes.

I went to the Board of Elections to talk with the director and there was a line going through the building, out the door and into the parking lot.

By the time Election Day rolls around, Obama is going to have a significant lead. The turn out is far greater than expected in Northeast Ohio, which is great news for Obama because this is his stronghold in Ohio (Cleveland, Youngstown, Akron, Warren, etc).

Plus, I think this hurricane has really taken some steam out of Romney's post-debate surge. Even though Obama 'won' the final two debates, I thought, the first one is what sticks out in people's minds and those races were getting really tight in the swing states.

Since Sandra hit, Romney has been almost completely out of the news and you have guys like Christie praising Obama on every major news network. Hard to believe anyone is still on the fence, but for those who are, it may make an impact.

Oh...

Obama wins 282-256.
Rove was just on Hannity and he said Democratic early voting is down by at least 150k compared to 2008, and Republican is up 68k from 2008. He said McCain won election day voting in Ohio by a good margin. He thinks the numbers are on track for a slim Romney victory.

Yesterday I said Romney would win 295-243, but I'm revising it to 289-249. Iowa is going to Obama.

Is He Ill
11-02-2012, 11:40 PM
Rove was just on Hannity and he said Democratic early voting is down by at least 150k compared to 2008, and Republican is up 68k from 2008. He said McCain won election day voting in Ohio by a good margin. He thinks the numbers are on track for a slim Romney victory.

Yesterday I said Romney would win 295-243, but I'm revising it to 289-249. Iowa is going to Obama.

:durantunimpressed: Of course he does.

General
11-02-2012, 11:41 PM
For anyone who doesn't know, Republicans have won every Presidential election held on Nov 6 going back to 1860 when Abraham Lincoln was elected President.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/30/The-Streak-Republicans-Have-Won-Every-November-6th-Presidential-Election-Since-1860

KevinNYC
11-02-2012, 11:42 PM
Rove was just on Hannity and he said Democratic early voting is down by at least 150k compared to 2008, and Republican is up 68k from 2008. He said McCain won election day voting in Ohio by a good margin. He thinks the numbers are on track for a slim Romney victory.

Yesterday I said Romney would win 295-243, but I'm revising it to 289-249. Iowa is going to Obama.

:lol

Is He Ill
11-02-2012, 11:43 PM
For anyone who doesn't know, Republicans have won every Presidential election held on Nov 6 going back to 1860 when Abraham Lincoln was elected President.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/30/The-Streak-Republicans-Have-Won-Every-November-6th-Presidential-Election-Since-1860

Yeah, that really matters because those elections have everything to do with this one. :rolleyes:

General
11-02-2012, 11:45 PM
:durantunimpressed: Of course he does.
He had numbers to back it up. Democrat enthusiasm is down, their early vote numbers are down. 150k less for D's, 68K more for R's. That's a huge vote swing. Republicans win election day voting usually. Obama only won by around 262k votes in 2008 with historic Democratic turn out. These are facts.

RedBlackAttack
11-02-2012, 11:47 PM
Rove was just on Hannity and he said Democratic early voting is down by at least 150k compared to 2008, and Republican is up 68k from 2008. He said McCain won election day voting in Ohio by a good margin. He thinks the numbers are on track for a slim Romney victory.

Yesterday I said Romney would win 295-243, but I'm revising it to 289-249. Iowa is going to Obama.
Rove trying to generate excitement in his base less than a week before the general election? I'm stunned.

And, right on cue, Rahm Emanuel is saying the exact opposite of Rove.

Obama up 2-1 in early voting (http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50134039n)

I'm telling you what I found in my own report... That early voting in Cuyahoga, Mahoning and Trumbull counties (all hugely democratic) are seeing record numbers in their early voting and exit polling data favors Obama overwhelmingly.

We'll see how it plays out.

RedBlackAttack
11-02-2012, 11:48 PM
These are facts.
No, they absolutely are not. Please supply a valid, unbiased citation for these numbers.

General
11-02-2012, 11:59 PM
Rove trying to generate excitement in his base less than a week before the general election? I'm stunned.

And, right on cue, Rahm Emanuel is saying the exact opposite of Rove.
Obama is going to win early voting no matter what. What Rove was saying is Democrat early voting numbers are down by 150k from 2008 statewide.

No, they absolutely are not. Please supply a valid, unbiased citation for these numbers.
I'm just repeating what he said, he said he had looked at the numbers the night before. He's comparing early voting to 2008, he's not disputing that Obama is winning the early vote. He said Republicans usually win election day voting, McCain won election day voting in 08.

Balla_Status
11-03-2012, 12:03 AM
No matter the outcome either ISH or Facebook with entertain me when the results come in. The meltdown on ISH if Romney wins will be hysterical and all my texan buddies on Facebook will be outraged if Obama wins.

Is He Ill
11-03-2012, 12:10 AM
No matter the outcome either ISH or Facebook with entertain me when the results come in. The meltdown on ISH if Romney wins will be hysterical and all my texan buddies on Facebook will be outraged if Obama wins.

It's a lot more fun to see peoples reactions in person.

IcanzIIravor
11-03-2012, 12:26 AM
I have 277-261 Obama winning.

KevinNYC
11-03-2012, 01:21 AM
He had numbers to back it up. Democrat enthusiasm is down, their early vote numbers are down. 150k less for D's, 68K more for R's. That's a huge vote swing. Republicans win election day voting usually. Obama only won by around 262k votes in 2008 with historic Democratic turn out. These are facts.

Rachel Maddow showed a clip tonight of the McCain campaign playing this game the day before the election in 2008. The guy from the McCain campaign was on Fox News saying that the internal Republican polling shows that McCain would win the states he needs to win. He named six states, Ohio, Florida, Virginia, New Hampshire, New Mexico, Pennsylvania and Nevada. He said this the day before the election.

That guy from the McCain campaign? Willard Mitt Romney.

They then showed the map from 2008 and circled all the states Romney mentioned and every one of them was colored blue.

http://politicalmaps.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/2008-election-map-nytimes.png

RedBlackAttack
11-03-2012, 01:24 AM
Obama is going to win early voting no matter what. What Rove was saying is Democrat early voting numbers are down by 150k from 2008 statewide.

I'm just repeating what he said, he said he had looked at the numbers the night before. He's comparing early voting to 2008, he's not disputing that Obama is winning the early vote. He said Republicans usually win election day voting, McCain won election day voting in 08.
I know you are repeating what Rove has said and that is the whole problem. I showed you a video of a partisan on the otherside of the aisle saying the exact opposite.

In fact, here is a news piece similar to the one I wrote today...




NEW YORK — Key swing-states have broken or anticipate breaking early-voting records in the homestretch before election day on Tuesday.

Forty-two percent of registered voters in Nevada have already cast their ballots — that’s more than 628,000 votes — according to figures from the Secretary of State. Spokeswoman Catherine Lu said the state elections office “hasn’t heard about any problems” in any of the counties that tally up early votes.

In Iowa, voters beat their previous record on Thursday. As of Friday morning, 584,000 ballots had been cast compared with a final tally of 545,000 in 2008, according to Secretary of State spokesman Chad Olsen.

“We are very busy,” Olsen said. “We got about 27,000 more yesterday. We’re going to have over 600,000 early votes, and that should put us around 40 percent. It’s a new high-water mark.”

Olsen said the process has been going “very smoothly” in Iowa, in part because of how much attention candidates and campaigns put on the state. Iowa is a swing state, and with its first-in-the-nation caucus, it plays a high-profile role throughout the election. He calls it “astounding” and good for voter engagement that the Obama campaign has more than 60 campaign offices in a state with 3 million people.

Iowa also introduced a pop-up voting option, which means a petition with at least 100 signatures enables a temporary voting location to spring up just about anywhere.

“We’ve had early voting locations in Mexican grocery stores and at churches,” Olsen said. “Not at the college bars yet but we have had some candidates who come in and do big rallies on campus and it just happens to be on the same day that there’s an early voting place two blocks away.”

As of Oct. 26, the most recent date for which data is available, Ohio had already received 1.2 million absentee votes. For the first time ever, officials automatically sent an absentee ballot application to every Ohio voter. The move was one of a few steps Ohio took to try to make a more uniform voting process statewide.

“Going well in the Buckeye state,” said Secretary of State spokesman Matt McClellan. “You could probably find little issues here and there but overall things are going well.”

Wisconsin reported “robust” early turn-out, with the number of early voters nearly doubling since last week. In Colorado, where “no-excuse mail balloting” is available to all voters, about 70 percent of the population votes by mail. So far the state has received 1.5 million ballots out of an expected 2.6 million.

“We’ve actually gotten very good at this,” said Colorado Secretary of State spokesman Rich Coolidge. “We’re at 1.5 million votes cast. We’re expecting probably 2.5 to 2.7 million votes. Colorado traditionally has long ballots. It’s been good for voters to be able to sit down and really go through them. If you have long ballots and you’re voting on a machine, and you take 10 minutes per voter, that machine can only handle six voters per hour. You’ve gotta have a lot of machines available. This has really relieved the pressure of getting everyone in on election day. Now you have ‘election three-weeks’ instead of ‘election day.’”


http://www.mercurynews.com/politics-national/2012/11/early-voting-likely-to-break-records-in-key-swing-states/

It has been reported by the above article and others like it that, as of Oct. 26 (last Friday), Ohio had already counted 1.2 million early votes. In 2008, the total number of early votes counted was 1.45 million.

That means, in Ohio, voters had 11 days to make up 250,000 early votes in order to comfortably surpass last year's early vote total. As you probably know, the closer the election gets, the more people begin to vote in an effort to avoid lines on Election Day. The idea that Ohio wouldn't make up that relatively small 250k margin separating 2008 and 2012 is an incredible stretch.

And, again, I talked to officials in the hugely Democratic Cuyahoga, Mahoning and Trumbull counties today -- Obama's greatest stronghold in Ohio -- and they all told me they've surpassed 2008's early voting totals, two of which by a wide margin.

In short, Rove doesn't know what he is talking about. He's using that 1.2 million number from Oct. 26 and applying it as though it wasn't a full 11 days before the election... As if that was the final tally when, in fact, Ohioans still have until Monday to complete their early voting.

I understand why he's doing it... He wants to excite the base and get them active and optimistic.

But, that doesn't mean you should believe it.

TheMan
11-03-2012, 02:29 AM
The GOP's only chance is if Democrats stay home :lol

I'll go with Professor Wang's prediction as of today. Obama 319, Romney 219.

Wang predicted every EV correctly in 2004 when he said Bush would win and he was off by one EV in 2008. One electoral vote wrong out of 1,076. I'd say that's pretty damn impressive.:bowdown:

longhornfan1234
11-03-2012, 01:01 PM
I looked at 538 and gave Obama all the states leaning his way plus Florida with is .5% for Romney.

Obama 332
Romney total: 206
:facepalm



Oh God...take Obama's **** out of your mouth.

Jailblazers7
11-03-2012, 01:09 PM
I have it at 290-248 for Obama based on the map. I'd have it a 272-266 win if Romney wins Ohio.

Nanners
11-03-2012, 01:31 PM
"But guys, Karl Rove said romney is giong to win on fox news!! These are facts we are talking about here." :oldlol:

Droid101
11-03-2012, 01:37 PM
332-206 Obama.

If Obama doesn't win Florida, then it'll be 303-225, which is my second pick.

Droid101
11-03-2012, 01:40 PM
For anyone who doesn't know, Republicans have won every Presidential election held on Nov 6 going back to 1860 when Abraham Lincoln was elected President.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/30/The-Streak-Republicans-Have-Won-Every-November-6th-Presidential-Election-Since-1860
Breitbart.com? The ****ing birther/Tea Party haven?

Yeah, here's a hint: when rational people are debating, don't use them as a source. You'll look like a clueless idiot.

KevinNYC
11-03-2012, 05:49 PM
:facepalm
Oh God...take Obama's **** out of your mouth.

I love how threatened you are by this.

Here's my reasoning.

A. Obama clearly has the momentum. Of 19 swing state polls released the other day, Obama won 18 of them.

B. Florida has been swinging back towards Obama. 538 has Romney with 55% chance of winning.

C. Democrats are getting out the vote. Here's the lines for early voting.
http://www.newsherald.com/polopoly_fs/1.39161.1351522262!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_445/early-voting-south-florida.jpg

D-1. Hurricane Sandy. A lot of Florida voters who have suffered through hurricanes are going to be reminded of Romney's ridiculous ideas about FEMA.
D-2. A lot of Florida voters come from the Tri-State area and this will affect their thinking.

E. I think in a few days we are going to find out how much Rasmussen polls were wrong. Rasmussen is showing a clear lean (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/simon-jackman/house-effects-by-back-by-_b_2007907.html)towards Republicans this year. They also do the most polling, so they affect the poll averages more than any other single outfit.
The most prolific pollster in the Pollster data base -- Rasmussen -- tends to produce estimates that lean in a Republican direction. The model-based estimate of this bias is about 1.2 points in two-party terms.

F. When you take out Rasmussen from the Polling Averages, Romney's lead in Florida disappears and it's currently a tie. (http://electoral-vote.com/evp2012/Pres/Maps/Oct31-noras.html) ElectoralVote.com has it at 48% to 48% and 538's adjusted average has it at 47.7 to 47.7.

With a tie in Florida, momentum and current events looking good for Obama and Democratic GOTV looking strong. I say Obama has a very good chance at taking Florida.

Anyone want to spot me 1%? Meet me in the election bets thread.

Derka
11-03-2012, 08:03 PM
Its going to Obama, but the Electoral math right now looks all over the place so I'm gonna refrain from numbers. I'm not seeing it being a 100+ margin of victory in the Electoral vote at all, but it'll be close and Obama will pull through in the swing states. Looks like Ohio goes Obama and I'm thinking Florida could go, as well.

The Hurricane Sandy stuff, and I can't emphasize enough that I'm only saying this from a strictly political standpoint, couldn't have come at a worse time for Romney. Having Chris Christie up there praising Obama on every national news telecast every night certainly doesn't help Romney any.

KevinNYC
11-03-2012, 08:14 PM
The Hurricane Sandy stuff, and I can't emphasize enough that I'm only saying this from a strictly political standpoint, couldn't have come at a worse time for Romney. Having Chris Christie up there praising Obama on every national news telecast every night certainly doesn't help Romney any.

Politico is reporting that Chris Christie was Romney's first choice for VP.

[QUOTE]according to a detailed inside account provided to POLITICO.
Romney was so close to picking Christie that some top advisers at the campaign

Derka
11-03-2012, 08:22 PM
Politico is reporting that Chris Christie was Romney's first choice for VP.

I remember when his name kept getting tossed in. Hell, a lot of media was saying Christie would throw his hat in the ring for the Republican nomination in 2012 at one point. Christie almost always went out of his way to try and play it down and say he wanted to stay in New Jersey, but you know how these politicos play that kind of thing.

That's why its gotta hurt to see Christie's praise for Obama regarding Hurricane response efforts less than a week away from the general election.

RedBlackAttack
11-05-2012, 03:41 AM
Obama is going to win early voting no matter what. What Rove was saying is Democrat early voting numbers are down by 150k from 2008 statewide.

I'm just repeating what he said, he said he had looked at the numbers the night before. He's comparing early voting to 2008, he's not disputing that Obama is winning the early vote. He said Republicans usually win election day voting, McCain won election day voting in 08.
And, just to follow up, it was reported today that Ohio went over 1.6 million early votes. In the 2008 election, there were 1.4 million.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/11/03/in-ohio-at-least-1-6-million-cast-early-votes/

Thank god we have Karl Rove to give us the straight facts with no bias. I'm sure he is updating all Fox viewers of these new numbers as we speak. Just the fact, guys... Just the facts.

MavsSuperFan
11-05-2012, 11:36 AM
294 Obama

244 R-money

lakers_forever
11-05-2012, 01:48 PM
Funny that people call Fox News biased (they are biased toward the republicans), but mention MSNBC (biased toward Obama and democrats) like it's serious unbiased journalism. Both are partisan to the bone. Rachel Maddow is so biased that she could not even say she was for Romney Care at the Bill Maher show.

Check their websites right now:

Fox News: http://www.foxnews.com/
"SWING TO MITT: Newspapers Flip From Obama to Romney Ahead of Election Day"

MSNBC http://www.nbcnews.com/
"First Read: Ongoing growth of minority voters in the makeup of America — the majority of whom are likely to vote for President Obama — could well sway Tuesday's vote"

:lol:

lakers_forever
11-05-2012, 01:55 PM
http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/11/pew-msnbc-more-negative-than-fox-148088.html

http://ht.ly/f28py

Showing they are both biased...

1987_Lakers
11-05-2012, 02:20 PM
Obama - 303
Romney - 235

TheMan
11-05-2012, 02:29 PM
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/11/05/us/politics/fivethirtyeight-1104-1/fivethirtyeight-1104-1-tmagSF.png

Romney no longer has a lead in any national poll, not even in Rasmussen's:lol

Obama goes over 300 EVs and wins the popular vote and Longhornfan1234 honors his bet and disapears forever from ISH.:rockon:

KevinNYC
11-05-2012, 03:37 PM
[QUOTE=lakers_forever]MSNBC http://www.nbcnews.com/
"First Read: Ongoing growth of minority voters in the makeup of America

KevinNYC
11-05-2012, 03:40 PM
Obama goes over 300 EVs and wins the popular vote and Longhornfan1234 honors his bet and disapears forever from ISH.:rockon:

What's the date of his last day? Can we have around for a week? Because my bet with him would have him use this as his avatar.
http://www.artofobama.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/hope.jpg

rufuspaul
11-05-2012, 04:06 PM
Obama-282, Romney-256

TheMan
11-05-2012, 04:40 PM
What's the date of his last day? Can we have around for a week? Because my bet with him would have him use this as his avatar.
http://www.artofobama.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/hope.jpg
For all I care, he could stay if he wants as long as he uses an Obama avi, it'll be much more fun trolling him than if he just left.:oldlol: He's your typical annoying Fox News viewer. He's nowhere near as bad as that asshat JaggerCommaMick.

Sarcastic
11-05-2012, 04:57 PM
O 307
R 231

Kews1
11-05-2012, 08:49 PM
Rove was just on Hannity and he said Democratic early voting is down by at least 150k compared to 2008, and Republican is up 68k from 2008. He said McCain won election day voting in Ohio by a good margin. He thinks the numbers are on track for a slim Romney victory.

Yesterday I said Romney would win 295-243, but I'm revising it to 289-249. Iowa is going to Obama.


http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/gallery/100521/GAL-10May21-4636/media/PHO-10May21-226073.jpg

Kews1
11-05-2012, 08:53 PM
http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/c8.0.403.403/p403x403/22789_524235807605508_180956801_n.png
http://thelastofthemillenniums.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/mitt-romney-liar413.jpg

lakers_forever
11-05-2012, 10:08 PM
Please explain how that article is biased.

I'm not saying it's not true. I was stating that both websites had its headline with news in favour of their favourite candidate.

RedBlackAttack
11-05-2012, 10:17 PM
I'm not saying it's not true. I was stating that both websites had its headline with news in favour of their favourite candidate.
Picking and choosing articles which may or may not support a certain ideology is one thing. Getting on television and lying about something which is easily fact checked is something else.

I think we all know MSNBC is the left's version of FNC, but I still don't think it matches Fox in outright, blatant lies.

Like, General watches FoxNews to get information on what is happening with voting in America. It is reasonable to assume what an expert on a supposed news channel is saying about hard, raw numbers is accurate. I mean, you can twist and turn the data to favor one side or the other, but the numbers should still be the numbers.

Yet, here we are... Rove says early voting in Ohio is down from 2008... It's actually up. Easily fact checked... But how many FoxNews viewers are going to do that? They aren't twisting the numbers to support a side... They're flat-out changing the numbers, apparently.

lakers_forever
11-05-2012, 10:25 PM
Picking and choosing articles which may or may not support a certain ideology is one thing. Getting on television and lying about something which is easily fact checked is something else.

I think we all know MSNBC is the left's version of FNC, but I still don't think it matches Fox in outright, blatant lies.

Like, General watches FoxNews to get information on what is happening with voting in America. It is reasonable to assume what an expert on a supposed news channel is saying about hard, raw numbers is accurate. I mean, you can twist and turn the data to favor one side or the other, but the numbers should still be the numbers.

Yet, here we are... Rove says early voting in Ohio is down from 2008... It's actually up. Easily fact checked... But how many FoxNews viewers are going to do that? They aren't twisting the numbers to support a side... They're flat-out changing the numbers, apparently.

Thanks for the reply. I get and undestand your point. I'm not american and, observing from the outside, I think Obama is the less of two evils. This Ohio thing is indeed easily checked. But I think there are lot of so called "facts" (in favour of Obama or Romney) and "lies" (said by Obama or Romney) by FOX and MSNBC that are in reality subjective and opinion based. And they take advantage of that to push their own agenda.

lakers_forever
11-05-2012, 10:34 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/06/us/politics/on-cable-news-networks-a-battle-of-bitterness.html?pagewanted=1&_r=0&hp

KevinNYC
11-05-2012, 11:02 PM
I'm not saying it's not true. I was stating that both websites had its headline with news in favour of their favourite candidate.

???????

You still really don't know what bias is.

The First Read article is not in favor of a particular candidate. The article exams the demographics of a possible Obama win and a possible Romney win. There's nothing there but straightfoward election analysis. Also the article is written by the straight news folks at NBC, not the opinion hosts from MSNBC.

KevinNYC
11-06-2012, 01:58 AM
Hey Longhorn, pollster has 332 has currently the most likely outcome (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/simon-jackman/chart-dump-swings-probability_b_2077997.html?utm_hp_ref=@pollster) with a 15% chance of happening. 538 gives it a 20% chance of happening.

MavsSuperFan
11-06-2012, 02:53 AM
I dont think this will happen, but I think it will be funny if Obama wins the electoral vote, but Romney wins the popular vote.

It will be funny seeing liberal people I know defend the electoral college when they used to criticise it as undemocratic and seeing republicans I know attack the electoral college when they used to defend it. :oldlol:

Most importantly Obama would still be president.

KevinNYC
11-06-2012, 02:56 AM
I dont think this will happen, but I think it will be funny if Obama wins the electoral vote, but Romney wins the popular vote.

It will be funny seeing liberal people I know defend the electoral college when they used to criticise it as undemocratic and seeing republicans I know attack the electoral college when they used to defend it. :oldlol:

Most importantly Obama would still be president.

538 says
Romney wins popular vote but loses electoral college 4.7%

He doesn't have a listing the other way, he may still be updating or it's a zero percent chance.

KevinNYC
11-06-2012, 03:01 AM
He was still updating

Obama wins popular vote but loses electoral college 0.6%

rufuspaul
11-06-2012, 10:39 AM
I'm revising my position:

Obama-303
Romney-235

1987_Lakers
11-07-2012, 01:31 AM
Obama - 303
Romney - 235

Pretty close, thought Florida was gonna go to Romney.

332
206

1987_Lakers
11-07-2012, 01:34 AM
I looked at 538 and gave Obama all the states leaning his way plus Florida with is .5% for Romney.

Obama 332
Romney total: 206
:applause:

DonDadda59
11-07-2012, 02:17 AM
332-206 Obama.

If Obama doesn't win Florida, then it'll be 303-225, which is my second pick.


I looked at 538 and gave Obama all the states leaning his way plus Florida with is .5% for Romney.

Obama 332
Romney total: 206

Nicccce :pimp:

KevinNYC
11-07-2012, 02:30 AM
Nicccce :pimp:


:applause:

Thanks. I could tell Florida was going for Obama, he definitely had the momentum. Romney's lead kept coming down and I figured the Democrats would be getting out the vote, especially after the dickhead governor in Florida tried to suppress it so hard.

Droid101
11-07-2012, 02:03 PM
332-206 Obama.

Once Florida is done counting, it looks like I'll be right, sucker.

kentatm
11-07-2012, 02:25 PM
Nate Silver kicked all the pundits in the balls last night.

http://i.imgur.com/QUW35.gif