Why aren't I getting better?

[Ai2death]

I play a fair bit but have only played for 3 years. I'm 5'7 25 years old.
I feel as though I'm not getting any better, I've tried going gym, but it just threw my shot off.
My biggest issue is probably my confidence. I often just go blank while playing, and don't know what to do.
I honesty starting to think that I'm just not ment to play basketball -.-

[SourPatchKids]

If you don't think you can, then you can't.

[bmulls]

Simple, you aren't practicing hard enough

[ace23]

Post a vid of yourself playing.

[Burgz V2]

Post a vid of yourself playing.

this.

basketball is a difficult sport to pick up in the early 20s. the muscle memory needed for basketball must be developed in such a way that it is easier to do so at a young age.

but it is not impossible.

without seeing your skill level i must say the easiest way to get better is to know WHY you make mistakes, not simply counting your mistakes. This is very demoralizing for a new player and could possibly contribute to your lack of self-confidence.

if you dont know why you make your mistakes, then become a student of the game, start to dissect players' games, tendencies etc in the NBA. By doing so, when you get out on the court, youll be able to pick up on opposing players' tendencies a lot more.

post a vid and im sure youll get a number of detailed responses.

[pejavelin]

when i started playing i was already a little older like you early 20s(which I think its old for bball). first thing first will be conditioning and dribble. I think dribble for a beginner is extremely important. Once you can dribble with both arms and penetrate from both sides you can start adding moves. Look at the nba players and try their moves. Even better, try to look at the fundamentals of eurobasket and drill yourself to death on the basics.

[Ai2death]

I'm a tech noob. So how would I go about posting a vid? I have a Sony handy cam thing.

[ace23]

I'm a tech noob. So how would I go about posting a vid? I have a Sony handy cam thing.
Is there a USB port? Just connect it via USB, and upload to youtube.

[Ai2death]

Ill try and set up my cam during my Saturday pick up games. So hopefully get some good footage

[Jailblazers7]

Biggest thing is learning your strengths and weaknesses.

AI was the player that got me to fall in love with bball so naturally I tried to emulate his style of play growing up but that just didn't suit my skills and I didn't learn that until around 17. Trying to emulate D-Wade with explosive crossovers when I was younger worked because I developed as an athlete more quickly than other but once everyone matured I had to adjust.

Honestly, the best thing I can tell you is learn to use your dribbles efficiently. More than 3 dribbles in the half court is a waste of movement unless you are playing point. The triple threat is the best weapon I ever learned. Pumps, jabs, step-throughs, etc.

I never learned to play out of the triple threat until I realized I was better off using my dribble as a striaght line move instead of lateral movements. The best advice I can give is learn to streamline your game and learn your strengths and weaknesses.

Also, get inside and try to get some boards. Boxing out, getting and offense board, and putting in an easy lay-up is an nice way to get some confidence and flow within the game.

[Jyap9675]

Do drills man, over and over again. I got better mostly through training, I use pick up games to analyze my weaknesses.

It's a constant learning curve for me, I write things on my iphone on things I need to improve.. then I research on how to improve them (as you can see from my posts here in streetball forum haha). Youtube is a great tool, I usually analyze what players do on certain situations i.e. (why did he drive right?, why did he step back etc.)

Best thing that helped me is doing fundamental drills such as being able to go left or right, 1 dribble pull up, left/right hand up layups. Thing is you gotta do this a lot, it needs to stick to your instinctive "game" so that you arent even thinking and you just do it in-game.

[JMT]

The larger question is why, at 25 years of age and 5'7", are you that concerned with focusing time and efforts on basketball?

Not trying to be a bad guy, but realistically it will never be more than a hobby, you'll never be more than just OK, and in 5 years or so your body won't allow you to do even the things you can do now.

[01amberfirewv]

I started playing competitively about 3 years ago and I'm 34 now. I don't have a hoop at my house so I did ball handling drills in my basement so I could at least be competitive with that. I am probably one of the best ball handlers in the group of guys that I play with. Due to my lack of experience I still go through spurts where I turn the ball over but I still get plenty of games. Just do what you can and make sure you get the ball in your hands as much as possible.

[ace23]

The larger question is why, at 25 years of age and 5'7", are you that concerned with focusing time and efforts on basketball?

Not trying to be a bad guy, but realistically it will never be more than a hobby, you'll never be more than just OK, and in 5 years or so your body won't allow you to do even the things you can do now.
Because he wants to? If it makes him happy, what do you care?

[Burgz V2]

The larger question is why, at 25 years of age and 5'7", are you that concerned with focusing time and efforts on basketball?

Not trying to be a bad guy, but realistically it will never be more than a hobby, you'll never be more than just OK, and in 5 years or so your body won't allow you to do even the things you can do now.

why do you care?

i have many relatives that played well into their 40s, dunking and everything. Just because you couldnt, doesnt mean he cant.

[IGOTGAME]

The larger question is why, at 25 years of age and 5'7", are you that concerned with focusing time and efforts on basketball?

Not trying to be a bad guy, but realistically it will never be more than a hobby, you'll never be more than just OK, and in 5 years or so your body won't allow you to do even the things you can do now.

all very true. no point in really practicing basketball anymore. More important things in life to focus on at that age


i have many relatives that played well into their 40s, dunking and everything. Just because you couldnt, doesnt mean he cant

good for them. Point is he should just find games on his level and have fun there. There is no point of doing drills by yourself at age 25. That is just a waste of time. There is no reward.

[01amberfirewv]

why do you care?

i have many relatives that played well into their 40s, dunking and everything. Just because you couldnt, doesnt mean he cant.

It's good exercise and its important to keep moving no matter how old you are


all very true. no point in really practicing basketball anymore. More important things in life to focus on at that age good for them. Point is he should just find games on his level and have fun there. There is no point of doing drills by yourself at age 25. That is just a waste of time. There is no reward.

You've got to have a reason to push yourself. For me if it's not basketball it'll be something else. In college and a few years after it was power lifting, then mountain biking and now basketball.

[JMT]

why do you care?

i have many relatives that played well into their 40s, dunking and everything. Just because you couldnt, doesnt mean he cant.

I did. And I don't doubt other people did. But I doubt they were 5'7" and picked up the game in their mid-20's.

As for caring, not really. Just asking the question.

Point being, if basketball is a form of exercise and a healthy diversion, that's great. But that's all it's ever going to be for the OP. So play games with people at or slightly above your skill level and enjoy. But video taping your workouts? Skill drills? A waste of time at that stage and time is all we have.

[CeltsGarlic]

all very true. no point in really practicing basketball anymore. More important things in life to focus on at that age



good for them. Point is he should just find games on his level and have fun there. There is no point of doing drills by yourself at age 25. That is just a waste of time. There is no reward.

So wrong my friend. Its healthy and great to forget everyday problems.

[IGOTGAME]

So wrong my friend. Its healthy and great to forget everyday problems.

I love playing basketball. I play everytime that I can. However, there is nothing to gain now from doing skill work. You are never going to see me heading up to the gym by myself to put up 1000 shots at 26. By this time, you either got it or ya don't. Why not take that time spent on skill work and actually play games?

[ace23]

It's funny when people tell others not to do what makes them happy. :oldlol:

[Burgz V2]

It's funny when people tell others not to do what makes them happy. :oldlol:

this.

guy asks for help getting better, and people tell him don't. :facepalm

[IGOTGAME]

It's funny when people tell others not to do what makes them happy. :oldlol:
I'm trying to help him out. He is never going to be good at basketball. Maybe he will get that and spend his time doing things that will make him happy.

[Ai2death]

I'm trying to help him out. He is never going to be good at basketball. Maybe he will get that and spend his time doing things that will make him happy.

****, you're a negative **** aren't you?

First, basketball does make me happy, I enjoy everything about it and love playing it.

Second, I'm not bad for only playing for a few years. I'm a solid ball handler and have a good mid range game and solid defence and understanding.

Third, basically by saying 'I'm not getting any better' is by over the first year or two, I improved relatively quickly, but now I feel as though I have reached a point and my skill level has plateaued. I have not seen much improvement, if any at all as of the last say 5 months.

I always expect perfect games from myself, whether it be pick up or in the local league, and It frustrated me not being able to do what I believe I can.
I feel like I let the team and my self down.


And even if basketball is my hobby, or whatever your hobby is, wouldn't you like to strive to improve yourself in what ever the task is?

[Lebron23]

I don't even like the guy, but basketball makes him happy. I am also 25 yrs.old basketball player. I always see some 40 up to 56 yrs.old enjoying the game in our basketball court every weekend. The guy just started playing basketball almost 4 years ago. I am sure the retired basketball players like Pippen and Rodman play basketball when they are not busy.

[Jyap9675]

Point being, if basketball is a form of exercise and a healthy diversion, that's great. But that's all it's ever going to be for the OP. So play games with people at or slightly above your skill level and enjoy. But video taping your workouts? Skill drills? A waste of time at that stage and time is all we have.

It's not like he is devoting all his time to playing basketball with aims of becoming pro at age of 25.

[Ai2death]

It's not like he is devoting all his time to playing basketball with aims of becoming pro at age of 25.

Didn't you hear? My goal is to reach the nba!?!

[Pushxx]

Wait...we're on a hardcore basketball forum and someone is telling this guy it's a waste of time to play...BASKETBALL?

WTF?

[Jyap9675]

Wait...we're on a hardcore basketball forum and someone is telling this guy it's a waste of time to play,...BASKETBALL?

WTF?

He's saying drills are a waste of time when you're too old and you should just be contented on how you play with no aims of getting better. :facepalm

Do it for yourself, it feels so rewarding when you get complimented in the courts saying that you have improved a lot. Heck doing drills is even better than just staring at the computer all day, playing games etc

Just make sure you have other things in your life going on - work, relationships, education. It's all about balance.

[Rojogaqu11]

Not to hijack this thread with my personal experience but I'd like to add that at almost 30 years old I went back to play basketball after maybe a 5 year hiatus. I was never a bad player but I had above average skills on a scrawny, prematurely old and weak body. I really felt out of place. I just kept practicing by simulating different game situations.
I think that your case may be that you're not practicing the right stuff. Focus your practices on becoming proficient in one thing at a time. Get your basics checked. Maybe start by understanding how your body moves when playing. Think more about your legs than your arms at the start. Find anything that could be improved through strength training or by increasing your endurance. Check your sleep habits, diet, take a physical exam, get your duties straight, etc. just do anything that will convince you that you are healthy and ready to accomplish your goal.
No matter what you hear, being 25 is NOT being old. You are young!. If you focus and try hard, you will gain something eventually. Just be patient and smart, because if you get frustrated easily, or you expect unrealistic results, then you need to focus on building your character before building your basketball skills. No one succeeds in a competitive activity with little effort or without a plan.

The most important thing is to have fun. If you don't have fun while trying out new skills, drills, diets, exercises, playing with others, etc. then you're probably placing too much effort on something that isn't worthwhile.
At your height, dreaming to reach the NBA is a very difficult task, and you would have to see what players like Nate Robinson, Boykins, etc. had to go through to get there. It's not impossible, but your main goal should always be to make basketball a rewarding experience no matter the context you're in. As long as you enjoy what you do, and it's something that creates something positive for you and those around you, then it's definitely meant for you even if you are not "successful" at it.

[IGOTGAME]

He's saying drills are a waste of time when you're too old and you should just be contented on how you play with no aims of getting better. :facepalm

Do it for yourself, it feels so rewarding when you get complimented in the courts saying that you have improved a lot. Heck doing drills is even better than just staring at the computer all day, playing games etc

Just make sure you have other things in your life going on - work, relationships, education. It's all about balance.

In order to Make improvements you need a mix of skill work and games. At 25 you should be building your career and setting the foundation for your life. Where does putting in 90 minutes doing skill work multiple times per week + games + lifting fit into the greater scheme of things. Improving in a sport to the point of being good takes a lot of time. Working on skill drills so people compliment you on a ball court would be weird. Honestly, I'd laugh at any 25 year old 5"7 dude running through drills by himself at the park.

Guess it comes down to the fact that I see no benefit from this activity. I think you are weird for wanting to do skill work at 25. This is coming from a former gym rat as well. Do something productive with that extra time.

[01amberfirewv]

In order to Make improvements you need a mix of skill work and games. At 25 you should be building your career and setting the foundation for your life. Where does putting in 90 minutes doing skill work multiple times per week + games + lifting fit into the greater scheme of things. Improving in a sport to the point of being good takes a lot of time. Working on skill drills so people compliment you on a ball court would be weird. Honestly, I'd laugh at any 25 year old 5"7 dude running through drills by himself at the park.

Guess it comes down to the fact that I see no benefit from this activity. I think you are weird for wanting to do skill work at 25. This is coming from a former gym rat as well. Do something productive with that extra time.

Doesn't matter what you do you need to exercise. You could spend all day at work, go home and sit in your nice house and watch tv, go to bed and get up and do it all over again but what does that do for you? Health>money

[Jyap9675]

In order to Make improvements you need a mix of skill work and games. At 25 you should be building your career and setting the foundation for your life. Where does putting in 90 minutes doing skill work multiple times per week + games + lifting fit into the greater scheme of things. Improving in a sport to the point of being good takes a lot of time. Working on skill drills so people compliment you on a ball court would be weird. Honestly, I'd laugh at any 25 year old 5"7 dude running through drills by himself at the park.

Guess it comes down to the fact that I see no benefit from this activity. I think you are weird for wanting to do skill work at 25. This is coming from a former gym rat as well. Do something productive with that extra time.

Yea we see a lot of benefits, thats is the difference. Also, its not like he is devoting a lot of time doing this drills, just when you have some extra time here and there.

[Rojogaqu11]

Well... most people spend several hours a day in front of the tv or the computer, and they still work 40+ hours a day, have social lives, etc. So it's an even better ambition to become disciplined in a productive activity like sports, exercise, etc. It's a much better investment than just being a parasite to other mindless distractions. There's more than enough time in a day to really focus in an important aspect of your life such as building up your body.

[LebronairJAMES]

In order to Make improvements you need a mix of skill work and games. At 25 you should be building your career and setting the foundation for your life. Where does putting in 90 minutes doing skill work multiple times per week + games + lifting fit into the greater scheme of things. Improving in a sport to the point of being good takes a lot of time. Working on skill drills so people compliment you on a ball court would be weird. Honestly, I'd laugh at any 25 year old 5"7 dude running through drills by himself at the park.

Guess it comes down to the fact that I see no benefit from this activity. I think you are weird for wanting to do skill work at 25. This is coming from a former gym rat as well. Do something productive with that extra time.
you sound like a bitch :coleman:

[Rake2204]

all very true. no point in really practicing basketball anymore. More important things in life to focus on at that age

good for them. Point is he should just find games on his level and have fun there. There is no point of doing drills by yourself at age 25. That is just a waste of time. There is no reward.I will have to disagree with the notion that there's never a point in practicing basketball at age 25. Playing basketball and improving my game is one of my favorite free-time activities. It's how I enjoy spending a lot of my non-work hours.

I have to wonder though, what are the more important things in life to focus on at that age? I apologize if I looked past it, but was there an indication that the original poster is planning on working on his game in lieu of having a job and paying bills? If so, I agree, surviving should come first. However, if work is in order, practicing basketball seems to be a perfectly healthy way to spend one's free time. In my personal regard, I take comfort in knowing that my basketball playing and practice results in improved self-confidence and overall health. As a bonus, I love doing it. Where's the downside?

As for finding games on one's own level and just having fun, I can't argue with that. There's nothing wrong with going that route either. However for me, at this point, half the fun is discovering new ways to get things done on the court. This often means practicing new moves and implementing them into games. My skill level and ability (and athleticism) at age 28 greatly eclipses my abilities at age 18, and it's been nothing but fun making that jump.

Of all the crappy things we all do in our free time: playing video games, watching TV, watching movies, chilling on the couch drinking beer, posting on internet message boards, practicing basketball seems like one of the few things that actually seems worthwhile.


In order to Make improvements you need a mix of skill work and games. At 25 you should be building your career and setting the foundation for your life. Where does putting in 90 minutes doing skill work multiple times per week + games + lifting fit into the greater scheme of things. Improving in a sport to the point of being good takes a lot of time. Working on skill drills so people compliment you on a ball court would be weird. Honestly, I'd laugh at any 25 year old 5"7 dude running through drills by himself at the park.

Guess it comes down to the fact that I see no benefit from this activity. I think you are weird for wanting to do skill work at 25. This is coming from a former gym rat as well. Do something productive with that extra time.As mentioned prior, many of us are thankfully allotted a daily amount of free time outside of their jobs. By around 6pm most nights, I'm home free. As such, there's a nice little chunk of time between 6pm and 11pm every night where I can often choose what I want to do. Since I don't have any kids, I enjoy being healthy and in shape and I love basketball, I'll often use some of that free time to lift, run, practice, or play. I personally haven't noticed anyone laughing about me working on my game, but if they did, I'd be prepared to handle it. Performing favorably against high level opponents is a lot more satisfying than correctly guessing the Daily Double on that evening's Jeopardy, which is likely what I'd be doing between 6:30 and 7:30 if I weren't playing ball.

I suppose it depends on one's own personal life view. I think life should be comprised by doing what we love when we're afforded the opportunity. If someone has the time and that's what they enjoy doing, why wouldn't they do it?

[IGOTGAME]

I will have to disagree with the notion that there's never a point in practicing basketball at age 25. Playing basketball and improving my game is one of my favorite free-time activities. It's how I enjoy spending a lot of my non-work hours.

I have to wonder though, what are the more important things in life to focus on at that age? I apologize if I looked past it, but was there an indication that the original poster is planning on working on his game in lieu of having a job and paying bills? If so, I agree, surviving should come first. However, if work is in order, practicing basketball seems to be a perfectly healthy way to spend one's free time. In my personal regard, I take comfort in knowing that my basketball playing and practice results in improved self-confidence and overall health. As a bonus, I love doing it. Where's the downside?

As for finding games on one's own level and just having fun, I can't argue with that. There's nothing wrong with going that route either. However for me, at this point, half the fun is discovering new ways to get things done on the court. This often means practicing new moves and implementing them into games. My skill level and ability (and athleticism) at age 28 greatly eclipses my abilities at age 18, and it's been nothing but fun making that jump.

Of all the crappy things we all do in our free time: playing video games, watching TV, watching movies, chilling on the couch drinking beer, posting on internet message boards, practicing basketball seems like one of the few things that actually seems worthwhile.

As mentioned prior, many of us are thankfully allotted a daily amount of free time outside of their jobs. By around 6pm most nights, I'm home free. As such, there's a nice little chunk of time between 6pm and 11pm every night where I can often choose what I want to do. Since I don't have any kids, I enjoy being healthy and in shape and I love basketball, I'll often use some of that free time to lift, run, practice, or play. I personally haven't noticed anyone laughing about me working on my game, but if they did, I'd be prepared to handle it. Performing favorably against high level opponents is a lot more satisfying than correctly guessing the Daily Double on that evening's Jeopardy, which is likely what I'd be doing between 6:30 and 7:30 if I weren't playing ball.

I suppose it depends on one's own personal life view. I think life should be comprised by doing what we love when we're afforded the opportunity. If someone has the time and that's what they enjoy doing, why wouldn't they do it?

I have only said that I don't understand skill work at that age. I guess I come from a different perspective than many of you on here. I've already put in the skill work to build a game(that is how I paid for my college education). Nothing is really needed. It is hard for me to actually find good competition outside of leagues. So maybe for someone who doesn't have a game yet a little bit of skill work could help. But I know how much skill work it takes to be really really good and that combined with playing games doesn't make sense in my point of view. However, if it makes you feel good than more power to you.

Personally, when I play basketball I'm at the courts running games for 2.5 hours. I couldn't imagine doing that and then doing skill work on top of that. Then you add in lifting etc. Seems like a lot of work to put into basketball. But again, if it makes you feel better to go from bum to average than good for you.

But, if you self confidence is tied to your jumpshot than is just odd. But again more power to you. I don't knock anyone for playing ball. I just think actively focusing on improving as a player is a little much. I mean I'll shoot some before games to get in rhythm but the idea of heading to a gym ONLY to put in skill work is crazy to me.

[Rake2204]

I think it might help to understand or remember that everyone comes from a different environment with different circumstances.


I have only said that I don't understand skill work at that age. I guess I come from a different perspective than many of you on here. I've already put in the skill work to build a game(that is how I paid for my college education). Nothing is really needed.I think a lot of us have already put in a lot of skill work, we're just not as satisfied with where we stand as you seem to be. Personally, if I ever got to the point where I felt like there was nothing else I could improve upon, basketball would lose a lot of its fun and purpose. I was a college level ball player at 18, I was better at 20, more so at age 23 , so on and so forth.

At some point, I know my athleticism will begin to wane, but it won't stop me from finding other aspects of the game I could still improve upon. It's fascinating to add new dimensions to my game or improve ones that already existed. And what I've found through the years is a lot of times, improvement can come in games, but sometimes true progress comes from a little pre-planning and pre-work. Could I just randomly decide to start doing Kobe's reverse pivot during pick-up games? Yes. But would it help to work a little bit on my own on the steps and finish? Absolutely.


It is hard for me to actually find good competition outside of leagues. So maybe for someone who doesn't have a game yet a little bit of skill work could help. But I know how much skill work it takes to be really really good and that combined with playing games doesn't make sense in my point of view. However, if it makes you feel good than more power to you.I don't discriminate too much with my competition. Sometimes it can be tough to find opponents on my level, but I can live with that. If I do play against folks at or above my level, it's fun. And if my opponents aren't quite on my level, I still enjoy it.

And you're right, it does take a lot of skill work to be really, really good. Fortunately (or unfortunately), I don't always have pick-up games readily accessible to me every day of the week, particularly in the winter months, so there's a lot of open time to work on one's game and attempt to work toward mastering certain aspects. Sometimes, in the winter doldrums, putting up 600 shots or working on my ball handling is the most basketball I can put in for a day. Perhaps I lift alongside, or run but again, the basketball often serves as a piece of the general idea of staying in shape and fit, so that's why it makes sense. I'd rather get my exercise by working on basketball than mindlessly running laps around the gym.


Personally, when I play basketball I'm at the courts running games for 2.5 hours. I couldn't imagine doing that and then doing skill work on top of that. Then you add in lifting etc. Seems like a lot of work to put into basketball. But again, if it makes you feel better to go from bum to average than good for you.Again, playing basketball games for 2.5 hours every day is not realistically possible for a lot of us. In the summer, it becomes a lot more possible, but still not a certainty. But living in the midwest, 2.5 hours of competition and games in a mid-sized town just isn't there in winter. There's even times in the summer when people just don't show up, or only for a certain period of time. I think it's helpful to remember that not everyone lives in a basketball hot bed where games are a certainty 365 days a year.

Moreover, I'm not sure it's just about going from bum to average. As I mentioned earlier, I certainly think it's possible for good players and great players to continue improving as time goes on. I am not familiar with your level of basketball so I cannot speak for you, but I'd reckon to say even pro basketball players continue improving as they age, as well as any level of ballplayer below them, and it doesn't take playing ball for a living to make many of those improvements.


But, if you self confidence is tied to your jumpshot than is just odd. But again more power to you. I don't knock anyone for playing ball. I just think actively focusing on improving as a player is a little much. I mean I'll shoot some before games to get in rhythm but the idea of heading to a gym ONLY to put in skill work is crazy to me.It is my belief that self-confidence is tied to a lot of the things we do. I would agree things might be askew if someone's entire sense of self worth were tied to their jumper, but I don't think anyone's suggesting that here. I just haven't a doubt in my mind that often, when someone becomes skilled or talented in a certain arena, it feels good, and it feeds the ego to some respect. If I was a boss at Scrabble, and my friends knew that, that'd make me feel good. If I cooked a mean batch of french toast, that'd make me feel good. It's similar with basketball. Knowing the work I put in has paid off in me being able to perform well is something I enjoy doing, that feels good.

I respect your manner of playing ball (shooting a few warm up jumpers then diving in). You are certainly not alone in that regard. But I'm taken a little aback by the idea of not being able to understand why other people may want to improve their games. We do so because it's fun and it's neat to get better, even if we were a college level athlete prior.

[01amberfirewv]

It is my belief that self-confidence is tied to a lot of the things we do. I would agree things might be askew if someone's entire sense of self worth were tied to their jumper, but I don't think anyone's suggesting that here. I just haven't a doubt in my mind that often, when someone becomes skilled or talented in a certain arena, it feels good, and it feeds the ego to some respect. If I was a boss at Scrabble, and my friends knew that, that'd make me feel good. If I cooked a mean batch of french toast, that'd make me feels good. It's similar with basketball. Knowing the work I put in has paid off in me being able to perform well is something I enjoy doing, that feels good.


I don't even know if its self confidence but it makes you feel good for working on something and getting better at it. I never really played basketball but I competed in power lifting in and after college then mountain biking and for the last few years I've been playing and coaching basketball. I gives me something to work for and a release from work. It's definitely not my life but its a nice break from it

[9512]

Why tell a guy he shouldn't improve?

Michael Jordan took up baseball in 1994 at age 31.

[Bandito]

Ok when was 25 OLD. A 25 year old is still consider young, my goodness, if you compare an athlete at that age then yes but a 25 year old working man is still young by any standards.

Dude just look for some vids about what you think you need to improve. If you think your dribbling still sucks then look for some drills and do that.