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Meticode

11-05-2012, 10:36 PM

untill amare comes back and mess it all up
First thing I thought when I read the thread title, but in all honesty, I hope he comes back and they're still good. I'd like to see them be competitive in the playoffs.

ClutchOver9000

11-05-2012, 10:39 PM

:rockon: :banana: :rockon: :banana: :rockon:

knickswin

11-05-2012, 10:39 PM

I'm really surprised at how good they are

Y2Gezee

11-05-2012, 10:40 PM

tikay0

11-05-2012, 10:41 PM

Not gonna lie. Kidd and felton is a pretty sick combo for that team.

knickswin

11-05-2012, 10:45 PM

I don't see how Amare could mess it up. He's one of the best finishing bigs ever, with a KG like jumpshot. The offense is all about ball movement, and Kurt Thomas/Tyson Chandler are taking his shots...the offense fits his style of play.

Its whether he can fit in defensively that determines his value as a starter though.

he should take this injured time to extensively watch tape and learn the team's defense

ClutchOver9000

11-05-2012, 10:46 PM

I'm scared for when Amare comes back. This team is looking NIIIICE right now...

airchibundo507

11-05-2012, 10:49 PM

I'm really surprised at how good they are

they played at the same level last year after Woodson took over. but now rrplace baron Davis, Bibby, Douglas, Fields, Jeffries, Harrelson and Lin with Felton, Kidd, Brewer, Kurt Thomas, Camby, Rasheed and prigioni

HaNdLe ThE RoCk

11-05-2012, 10:54 PM

Felton and Kidd is exactly what Tyson needed

ClutchOver9000

11-05-2012, 10:56 PM

they played at the same level last year after Woodson took over. but now rrplace baron Davis, Bibby, Douglas, Fields, Jeffries, Harrelson and Lin with Felton, Kidd, Brewer, Kurt Thomas, Camby, Rasheed and prigioni

Very good point actually. The team always played hard and with energy under Woody but now our talent level significantly upgraded. Still...I dont think anyone saw us gelling right from jump like we are.

Rekindled

11-05-2012, 10:56 PM

I don't see how Amare could mess it up. He's one of the best finishing bigs ever, with a KG like jumpshot. The offense is all about ball movement, and Kurt Thomas/Tyson Chandler are taking his shots...the offense fits his style of play.

Its whether he can fit in defensively that determines his value as a starter though.

except he take away the floor space for carmelo, so it makes team worse offensively, he is also very bad at defense. that's why last season when amare is on the floor, the knicks were out scored on average of 11 points, thats' just eye popping.

knickswin

11-05-2012, 10:58 PM

they played at the same level last year after Woodson took over. but now rrplace baron Davis, Bibby, Douglas, Fields, Jeffries, Harrelson and Lin with Felton, Kidd, Brewer, Kurt Thomas, Camby, Rasheed and prigioni

I think the offense is on a completely different level than it ever was last season.

magnax1

11-05-2012, 10:59 PM

Hopefully they can find a spot for Amare off the bench. I really don't think he brings enough to the table offensively for him to be a starter anyway.

bluechox2

11-05-2012, 11:00 PM

Knicks beasting defensively , actually enjoyable watching the Knicks play... Melo playing inspired ball, sheed punishing opponents in garbage time

Go NY go NY GO!!!

G-Funk

11-05-2012, 11:02 PM

Knicks are in business to shock the world

ClutchOver9000

11-05-2012, 11:02 PM

Knicks beasting defensively , actually enjoyable watching the Knicks play... Melo playing inspired ball, sheed punishing opponents in garbage time

Go NY go NY GO!!!

:rockon:

ihoopallday

11-05-2012, 11:03 PM

Before the season started, I said NY had a great chance of making it to the ECF. I'm sticking with that. Heat vs. Knicks in the ECF would be fun to watch.

asdf1990

11-05-2012, 11:07 PM

played a crappy sixers team two times and played a completely unmotivated heat team, yeah they are back and title contenders lol

icewill36

11-05-2012, 11:08 PM

woodson is a great coach

RRR3

11-05-2012, 11:08 PM

Who posted that gay ass pic? God damn screw you :facepalm NSFW

Jam.22_

11-05-2012, 11:08 PM

Before the season started, I said NY had a great chance of making it to the WCF. I'm sticking with that. Heat vs. Knicks in the WCF would be fun to watch.
ECF*

bluechox2

11-05-2012, 11:09 PM

Before the season started, I said NY had a great chance of making it to the WCF. I'm sticking with that. Heat vs. Knicks in the WCF would be fun to watch.

Cool WCF

Sarcastic

11-05-2012, 11:15 PM

played a crappy sixers team two times and played a completely unmotivated heat team, yeah they are back and title contenders lol

How can a team be unmotivated in the 2nd game of the year, and the first game in MSG? Lebron played 37 minutes, and Wade played 35 as well.

flipogb

11-05-2012, 11:18 PM

Amare won't mess this up, not with so many vets around. they won't let the effort disappear

ClutchOver9000

11-05-2012, 11:18 PM

How can a team be unmotivated in the 2nd game of the year, and the first game in MSG? Lebron played 37 minutes, and Wade played 35 as well.

ignore em bro

ihoopallday

11-05-2012, 11:21 PM

Cool WCF

:lol Wow, that's embarrassing. And I did it twice :facepalm.

longtime lurker

11-05-2012, 11:26 PM

Just hope this momentum will keep going when Amare comes back. It would suck for him to receive all the blame for poor play. Either way I think they need to continue starting J Kidd.

Money 23

11-05-2012, 11:31 PM

Anyone know how Iman Shumpert is looking? Is he over the knee injury? I had high hopes for the local product.

asdf1990

11-05-2012, 11:31 PM

How can a team be unmotivated in the 2nd game of the year, and the first game in MSG? Lebron played 37 minutes, and Wade played 35 as well.

maybe cuz they won a ring last season? I am guessing you didn't watch the game if you think the heat were trying even a little bit

HaNdLe ThE RoCk

11-05-2012, 11:40 PM

maybe cuz they won a ring last season? I am guessing you didn't watch the game if you think the heat were trying even a little bit

Now the heat weren't trying? You sound like an idiot man just stop.

asdf1990

11-05-2012, 11:44 PM

Now the heat weren't trying? You sound like an idiot man just stop.

knicks fans delusional as usual

niko

11-06-2012, 12:02 AM

maybe cuz they won a ring last season? I am guessing you didn't watch the game if you think the heat were trying even a little bit
Props to the heat for playing like shit. Because not trying is a good thing.

Moron.

TheMarkMadsen

11-06-2012, 12:05 AM

And people mocked me when I made a thread where I predicted the Knicks to finish 2nd in the east..

The Knicks are for real.

DStebb716

11-06-2012, 12:06 AM

ClutchOver9000

11-06-2012, 12:11 AM

i have literally felt very little excitement over these three wins. i've enjoyed them thoroughly, but fact is i've been too hardened by being a knicks, bills and sabres fan to get my hopes up over a measly 3 game stretch.

I know that feel man... :cheers:

I've also become numb/desensitized to letdowns, disappointments, mediocrity but from what I've seen in these first 3 games, the team is looking niiiiiice....

But we'll see if they can maintain this level of play over the course of a season and into the playoffs

kNicKz

11-06-2012, 12:14 AM

decision haters that mouthed off all summer are M.I.A.

When the knicks lose a game they will be back

Y2Gezee

11-06-2012, 12:14 AM

except he take away the floor space for carmelo, so it makes team worse offensively, he is also very bad at defense. that's why last season when amare is on the floor, the knicks were out scored on average of 11 points, thats' just eye popping.

Amare has to be respected as a jumpshooter, within 18ft, that's decent spacing. They aren't 3s, but they're higher percentage shots, and he can knock them down at a higher percentage than Felton/Kidd/Brewer can hit 3s. And like I said, right now Kurt Thomas and Tyson Chandler are taking his midrange shots. Amare will make them less dependent on the 3ball, which is good and be a reliable second option...because even in his worst year last season (when the poorer personnel he played with hurt his game) Amare was a 18ppg 48% scorer.

Not only that, but Melo can provide spacing for Amare because Amare can be a featured player in the offense. Creating easier shots for Melo. A lot more of the offense would be ran through the pick and roll, but the results would be the same.

disel

11-06-2012, 01:00 AM

Getting rid of the ch#nk in the armour was a master stroke. The overrated ch#nk will now ruin houston.Orientel cat eating tight eyed hack

bluechox2

11-06-2012, 01:37 AM

we face the red hot mavs, should be a good test this friday

asdf1990

11-06-2012, 01:40 AM

Props to the heat for playing like shit. Because not trying is a good thing.

Moron.

Heat are coming of a championship run with nothing to prove, it's not that difficult to grasp the concept. Previous seasons champ don't try in the start of the season majority of the time. I will bump this thread when the Knicks get wrecked by Miami or Boston in the playoffs.

HaNdLe ThE RoCk

11-06-2012, 01:50 AM

Heat are coming of a championship run with nothing to prove, it's not that difficult to grasp the concept. Previous seasons champ don't try in the start of the season majority of the time. I will bump this thread when the Knicks get wrecked by Miami or Boston in the playoffs.

You think the Heat traveled to New York to just give the Knicks the game on national television? Your post are getting dumber and dumber.

Whoah10115

11-06-2012, 01:58 AM

Anyone know how Iman Shumpert is looking? Is he over the knee injury? I had high hopes for the local product.

Same injury, the same weekend as Rose. He's gonna be out just as long.

bluechox2

11-06-2012, 02:28 AM

iman is expected to come back late December/early January

ClutchOver9000

11-06-2012, 02:32 AM

Crazy how good our defense has been without Shump who is our best perimeter defender...

Goes to show we can be even more lockdown once he comes back. With a healthy Shumpert, Brewer, Smith, Kidd, Felton, you got a plethora of perimeter defenders, and then you add in Chandler, Thomas, and Wallace (and Camby) and you got a stable of defensive bigs.

Bigsmoke

11-06-2012, 04:34 AM

They are like the Mavs 2 years ago to me so far

All Net

11-06-2012, 05:51 AM

They are back if they are playing like this in jan/feb..

Trentknicks

11-06-2012, 05:54 AM

NumberSix

11-06-2012, 06:06 AM

Meh. Chucking 3's works sometimes. Sometimes it doesn't. Not a great recipe for consistency.

Trentknicks

11-06-2012, 06:33 AM

Meh. Chucking 3's works sometimes. Sometimes it doesn't. Not a great recipe for consistency.
Ask Dallas from 2011, remember the team that beat your bandwagon following.

kNicKz

11-06-2012, 08:25 AM

Meh. Chucking 3's works sometimes. Sometimes it doesn't. Not a great recipe for consistency.

Flopping= NumberSix's idea of consistency

maybeshewill13

11-06-2012, 08:30 AM

Flopping= NumberSix's idea of consistency
Well last year Wade and Lebron consistently flopped, and they won a ring.. so maybe that's the true definition of successful consistency? :confusedshrug:

InspiredLebowski

11-06-2012, 08:30 AM

What's this even mean? The Knicks are pretty much the Pacers for the last 35 or so years. That's not a good thing.

Blue&Orange

11-06-2012, 08:44 AM

Knicks are back since they fired D'Antoni, like i always said they would. lol at Lakers looking at D'Antoni, good luck with that.

Knicks last year were the second best team in the NBA behind the spurs with Mike Woodson, they were beating team by 20, 30 and even 40 points, and they were never really 100% healthy.

wally_world

11-06-2012, 09:09 AM

Melo has been the league MVP so far :pimp:

niko

11-06-2012, 09:14 AM

I don't know about back or anything but 3-0 with a defensive mindset is a world better than where we started out last year or where we knew we'd be.

I find it funny that the trendy new team in Brooklyn is offensive minded with soft defensive bigs and offensive role players, and the Knicks are the opposite. Good luck Brooklyn! If it were the opposite we'd be getting skewered.

Clutch

11-06-2012, 09:32 AM

Shump is good but at this point Brewer is considerably better at defending the perimeter.
No he isn't. Shumpert is better defender than him. Brewer is at cutting to the basket and takes less questionable shots.

I think Shump is better than Brewer but even having Brewer to play instead of Landry Fields is a HUGE improvement.

bluechox2

11-06-2012, 09:43 AM

brewer's jumper looks much improved, shumpert needs to work on his, hopefully he has improved on it also

IGOTGAME

11-06-2012, 09:50 AM

I really hope they bring Amare off the bench.

niko

11-06-2012, 09:55 AM

Meh. Chucking 3's works sometimes. Sometimes it doesn't. Not a great recipe for consistency.
We are giving up less than 85 pts a game. You miss that? We are not winning 115-114, don't make it sound like we are.

SpecialQue

11-06-2012, 10:50 AM

Meh. Chucking 3's works sometimes. Sometimes it doesn't. Not a great recipe for consistency.

I may be wrong, but didn't the Heat win a championship last year by chucking and making an assload of 3's?

Tking714

11-06-2012, 10:54 AM

Tyson + Kidd, and Felton + Amare on the pick and roll. And then you have shot creators in Melo, Jr smith, and soon to be Shump. Huge Frontline. :banana:

RRR3

11-06-2012, 11:22 AM

I may be wrong, but didn't the Heat win a championship last year by chucking and making an assload of 3's?
It can work when you have LeBron freakin' James. The Knicks don't.

ihoopallday

11-06-2012, 11:44 AM

I may be wrong, but didn't the Heat win a championship last year by chucking and making an assload of 3's?

They did :banana: The Knicks do have a lot of great three point shooters. Just gotta get hot in the playoffs.

iDunk

11-06-2012, 11:51 AM

Ronnie Brewer is a much better shooter than I thought he was.

pegasus

11-06-2012, 11:51 AM

I'm a Bulls fan, but I'm happy to see the Knicks play well. Hopefully they can keep it up.

I would be worried about Amare's possible negative impact when he returns, but I think Woodson has too many options now to worry about Amare's feelings. If he doesn't play defense and rebound, he will be benched.

asdf1990

11-06-2012, 01:00 PM

You think the Heat traveled to New York to just give the Knicks the game on national television? Your post are getting dumber and dumber.

That's what I said four times didn't I? Thread is booked for future laughs at the Knicks fan thinking they are anything but a joke.

Y2Gezee

11-06-2012, 02:04 PM

The Knicks haven't even gotten the 2 players that give them the biggest advantage in the East in Amare and Camby.

They've only played 2 small teams in Miami and Philly (without Bynum), so they could play small without a problem. But when they get those guys back, they can really hurt smaller teams on the glass and protecting the rim. Especially Camby who is the most efficient rebounder in the league last year.

And they're not going to NEED the 3, like the Suns/Magic/even Spurs of the world, because they'll have Amare and Melo.

Y2Gezee

11-06-2012, 05:58 PM

Earvin Magic Johnson ‏@MagicJohnson
After watching the Knicks beat the Sixers last night, I have no doubt that they are legit.

Earvin Magic Johnson ‏@MagicJohnson
I know it's early, but both the Knicks & the Heat are going to be the teams to beat in the East.

crisoner

11-06-2012, 06:00 PM

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to early.

But I'm happy to see the Knicks make some noise again for some reason.

niko

11-06-2012, 06:10 PM

That's what I said four times didn't I? Thread is booked for future laughs at the Knicks fan thinking they are anything but a joke.

Again, if the Heat didn't take a game seriously that's not a point of pride for them. Getting your ass kicked because you don't try hard is a good thing how? When you wind up playing game 6 and 7 in OKC because you do that too much come explain how that makes sense.

The heat were competing, they just lost. They are going to lose with the playoffs somewhere at least between 25-27 times. You think every time they don't try?

Are heat fans just stupid because they started watching in 2011 or is it just a prerequisite before they let you watch them play?

bagelred

11-06-2012, 07:08 PM

Again, if the Heat didn't take a game seriously that's not a point of pride for them.

Clearly, the Knicks won because of liberal bias.

Wait, that's not what I meant.......confusing day. :facepalm

upside24

11-06-2012, 07:14 PM

Clearly, the Knicks won because of liberal bias.

Wait, that's not what I meant.......confusing day. :facepalm
:lol It will be over soon, hang in there.

redrich2000

11-07-2012, 07:30 AM

21-6 regular season since Woodson took over with injuries pretty much through that whole time. Big test to come when Amare comes back to see how they do with the perenial Melo/Amare issues. Someone posted in another thread that they averaged 49 points combined when Billups played and Felton/Kidd are another quality pass first PG combo.

Also, SHEEEEEEEED!!!!!!