What happens if The Lakers change their coach and still lose?

[clipps]

Who's next to blame? What excuses will the Lakers come up with? How many fans get pepper sprayed?

[All Net]

Will come down to lack of speed on the perimeter..hell those are one of the main issues now along with coaching.

[HorryIsMyMVP]

If they got a new coach and utilized Nash how he should be used. I would not complain if they lost some games.

[NumberSix]

Who's next to blame?
Anyone but Kobe. Any possible scapegoat will do. I've literally heard Kobetards blame the floor before.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Anyone but Kobe. Any possible scapegoat will do. I've literally heard Kobetards blame the floor before.


how could you possibly blame Kobe for the 1-4 start?

27 5 & 3 on 56% :confusedshrug:

[HorryIsMyMVP]

how could you possibly blame Kobe for the 1-4 start?

27 5 & 3 on 56% :confusedshrug:
I blame him for taking too many shots and dominating the ball even when he had a great PG. He treated Nash as if he was Steve Blake. And not Steve Nash.

[CavaliersFTW]

how could you possibly blame Kobe for the 1-4 start?

27 5 & 3 on 56% :confusedshrug:
Who's the emotional leader and stable veteran of that team? Kobe gets credit for all the Lakers wins but the blame is always conveniently deflected from him on losses? Is that how it works? I don't blame him for the 1-4 start either - I just don't understand Kobe-stan logic of how nothing is ever Kobe's fault

[Nick Young]

Teams with Kobe never lose. Also, Nash is injured. HE'S HURT! That's why he has a limited role so far.

[NumberSix]

how could you possibly blame Kobe for the 1-4 start?

27 5 & 3 on 56% :confusedshrug:
I don't. I blame Mike Brown fully. Re-read the question.

[HorryIsMyMVP]

Teams with Kobe never lose. Also, Nash is injured. HE'S HURT! That's why he has a limited role so far.
He wasn't in the first two games they got whooped on and Nash barely touched the ball.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

The blame then shifts to the teams best player/leader. Even now, Kobe's defense has been terrible. Still not sure why he's averaging 27 a game...and only 3 assists. 3 assists w/ Pau and Dwight. :oldlol:

[swi7ch]

Gotta trade Kobe for Harden.

[TheBigVeto]

Anyone but Kobe. Any possible scapegoat will do. I've literally heard Kobetards blame the floor before.

This.

[Heavincent]

The blame then shifts to the teams best player/leader. Even now, Kobe's defense has been terrible. Still not sure why he's averaging 27 a game...and only 3 assists. 3 assists w/ Pau and Dwight. :oldlol:

But I thought Dwight Howard was the best player? That's what some people on ISH were saying before the season :confusedshrug:

[Rekindled]

what hapens if world ends tomorrow

[HorryIsMyMVP]

Dwight could be the best player on the Lakers if he was utilized by an actual play maker. Nash and Dwight there wouldn't really be an issue with free throws. Because he would only be shooting 1 free throw at a time.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

But I thought Dwight Howard was the best player? That's what some people on ISH were saying before the season :confusedshrug:

Hmm. So LA isn't Kobe's team now?

[zass]

Pau Gasol

[Heavincent]

Hmm. So LA isn't Kobe's team now?

I don't think that, but some people on ISH were claiming that its Dwight's team now :confusedshrug:

[NumberSix]

But I thought Dwight Howard was the best player? That's what some people on ISH were saying before the season :confusedshrug:
Dwight is, but his point isn't really accurate anyway. You don't automatically blame the best player when a team loses. What kind of retard logic is that? Just look at MJ in the 80's. You can be by far the best player on the court and still lose the game. The team with the best player doesn't automatically win. I mean, this couldn't be more obvious common sense.

Whoever the best player on the Lakers is. I say Dwight, you say Kobe. Regardless. If the #1 Laker plays epically well, they're still gonna lose if the rest of the team plays poorly. You don't then blame the best player who played well just because he's the best player when it was everyone else who didn't do their job.

[Heavincent]

Dwight is, but his point isn't really accurate anyway. You don't automatically blame the best player when a team loses. What kind of retard logic is that? Just look at MJ in the 80's. You can be by far the best player on the court and still lose the game. The team with the best player doesn't automatically win. I mean, this could be more obvious common sense.

Whoever the best player on the Lakers is. I say Dwight, you say Kobe. Regardless. If the #1 Laker plays epically well, they're still gonna lose if the rest of the team plays poorly. You don't then blame the best player who played well just because he's the best player when it was everyone else who didn't do their job.

Both Kobe and Howard have been playing well up to this point. It's stupid to blame either of them for the 1-4 start.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Dwight is, but his point isn't really accurate anyway. You don't automatically blame the best player when a team loses. What kind of retard logic is that? Just look at MJ in the 80's. You can be by far the best player on the court and still lose the game. The team with the best player doesn't automatically win. I mean, this could be more obvious common sense.

Whoever the best player on the Lakers is. I say Dwight, you say Kobe. Regardless. If the #1 Laker plays epically well, they're still gonna lose if the rest of the team plays poorly. You don't then blame the best player who played well just because he's the best player when it was everyone else who didn't do their job.

You must have really low standards. Kobe has been a great scorer, but his leadership and playmaking have been pretty average (his defense = non existent).

Say the Lakers do hire a new headcoach and the Lakers continue recording L's - if Kobe's play doesn't change, he'll get the majority of the blame. Just the way it is.

[NumberSix]

Both Kobe and Howard have been playing well up to this point. It's stupid to blame either of them for the 1-4 start.
Literally NO PLAYERS are to blame. It couldn't be more obvious that this is complete on the potato.

[HorryIsMyMVP]

You must have really low standards. Kobe has been a great scorer, but his leadership and playmaking have been pretty average (his defense = non existent).

Say the Lakers do hire a new headcoach and the Lakers continue recording L's - if Kobe's play doesn't change, he'll get the majority of the blame. Just the way it is.
lol no he won't. :facepalm

[Heavincent]

Literally NO PLAYERS are to blame. It couldn't be more obvious that this is complete on the potato.

Bench has been beyond awful. Probably has something to do with Brown's rotations though.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

I'm not saying it's entirely Kobe's fault, but he's part of the reason LA has looked like trash on the defensive end. Save for his fanatics (and boxscore watchers), anyone that's actually tuning into these games would agree.

[NumberSix]

You must have really low standards. Kobe has been a great scorer, but his leadership and playmaking have been pretty average (his defense = non existent).

Say the Lakers do hire a new headcoach and the Lakers continue recording L's - if Kobe's play doesn't change, he'll get the majority of the blame. Just the way it is.
If they get a new coach (who understands the word "rotation") and Nash comes back.........

If Kobe dominates the ball, takes the most shot and plays trash D, then yes. It will CLEARLY be his fault. It couldn't be more obvious that this should be primarily an inside scoring team first and foremost. Priority #1 obviously needs to be putting Dwight and Pau in the position to score point. Kobe needs to just check his ego and accept that. Kobe's main scoring should be catch and shoot.

[Twiens]

Start Jordan Hill
Trade Pau for 2/3 solid bench guys
Win


Dude is slower than big Z these days...

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

If they get a new coach (who understands the word "rotation") and Nash comes back.........

If Kobe dominates the ball, takes the most shot and plays trash D, then yes. It will CLEARLY be his fault. It couldn't be more obvious that this should be primarily an inside scoring team first and foremost. Priority #1 obviously needs to be putting Dwight and Pau in the position to score point. Kobe needs to just check his ego and accept that. Kobe's main scoring should be catch and shoot.

Under the premise of the OP, this is spot on.

Just not sure how this is any different than what I said, though. :confusedshrug: :lol

[NumberSix]

Under the premise of the OP, this is spot on.

Just not sure how this is any different than what I said, though. :confusedshrug: :lol
It's different because if Kobe does what I just explained and does his job well, you can't blame him if they lose.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

It's different because if Kobe does what I just explained and does his job well, you can't blame him if they lose.



If they get a new coach (who understands the word "rotation") and Nash comes back.........

If Kobe dominates the ball, takes the most shot and plays trash D, then yes. It will CLEARLY be his fault.

Again, no difference at all. The rest of your post, well, Kobe wouldn't be playing the same way now would he?

[daily]

Doesn't matter who the coach is if these guys are going to just go through the motions like they are now. There's plenty that falls on Brown in this mess but the players are not giving effort or accountability for themselves.

When I see rebounds drop between Howard and Gasol who are standing 4 feet away from each other and Milsap sneaks in and grabs the ball that's not a Mike Brown problem that's on the players and it's happened way to many times already this year

Blaming Brown is a way for fan boys to avoid the truth that this team needs a serious attitude adjustment all across the board

[NumberSix]

Again, no difference at all. The rest of your post, well, Kobe wouldn't be playing the same way now would he?
Is this a serious question or are you digging for something?

You honestly don't understand how it's possible that Kobe Bryant could play well while other players simultaneously play poorly? :confusedshrug:

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Is this a serious question or are you digging for something?

You honestly don't understand how it's possible that Kobe Bryant could play well while other players simultaneously play poorly? :confusedshrug:

Dude...are you dense?

Let me re-quote our posts:


Say the Lakers do hire a new headcoach and the Lakers continue recording L's - if Kobe's play doesn't change, he'll get the majority of the blame. Just the way it is.


If Kobe dominates the ball, takes the most shot and plays trash D, then yes. It will CLEARLY be his fault.

Kobe's already taking the most shots on this team, is playing trash defense and hasn't utilized his bigs enough. If this trend continues w/ Nash (under a new coach) and the Lakers STILL have a losing record, he'll be blamed.

That's all I'm saying - and going by your post, you agree.

[White Mamba]

I blame him for taking too many shots and dominating the ball even when he had a great PG. He treated Nash as if he was Steve Blake. And not Steve Nash.
:roll: :roll: :roll: so he takin 8 shots less than last year only 16 per game and its TOO MANY?

[jbot]

then they'll blame it on team chemistry or the players getting used to a new system.

nash needs the ball in his hand to be effective, but kobe isn't about to share it THAT much.

[RazorBaLade]

:roll: :roll: :roll: so he takin 8 shots less than last year only 16 per game and its TOO MANY?

not to mention hes not dribbling as much anymore and mostly scoring off quick catch and shoot, hence the lower assists... yet now hes not getting enough assists.

bleh.

to answer the thread... who knows. We'd have to see WHY they are losing. Are they putting the best players on the floor? IS there a visible working offense and defensive plan being utilized? If theyre still losing then we'll see why

[RRR3]

But I thought Dwight Howard was the best player? That's what some people on ISH were saying before the season :confusedshrug:
He is and he's already getting blamed.

[daily]

nash needs the ball in his hand to be effective, but kobe isn't about to share it THAT much. Nash needs to be playing to be effective :lol

[Kews1]

Lakers should trade

Kobe + Nash + First Round Picks + Gasol

For

Lebron + Allen



not that the Heat would do it because Lebrons worth more than those three combined but

Dwight/Lebron/Allen > Dwight/Nash/Kobe/Gasol

[longtime lurker]

Lakers should trade

Kobe + Nash + First Round Picks + Gasol

For

Lebron + Allen



not that the Heat would do it because Lebrons worth more than those three combined but

Dwight/Lebron/Allen > Dwight/Nash/Kobe/Gasol

Do they trade their coach too? Because it's obvious coaching is the problem. Meanwhile Kobe, Gasol, Wade and Nash laugh as they feast on the pathetic competition in the East.

[DCL]

kobe simply doesn't have what it takes to win games.

he only knows how to ball hog and toss up FGAs but at the end of the day, rack up another big L on the win/loss column.

failure of legacy.

kobe stans can suck it. :oldlol:

[Kews1]

Do they trade their coach too? Because it's obvious coaching is the problem. Meanwhile Kobe, Gasol, Wade and Nash laugh as they feast on the pathetic competition in the East.

Read the thread title. What happens if the Lakers change their coach and still lose.

[d.bball.guy]

Stu Lantz.

[DatAsh]

Both Kobe and Howard have been playing well up to this point. It's stupid to blame either of them for the 1-4 start.

Both Dwight and Kobe deserve at least some of the blame.

Dwight clearly been the team's best defender, and by a considerable margin, but he's not boxing out and rebounding the way he should be.

Kobe has been careless with the ball thus far; as a result, he's turning it over far too many times, especially when you take into account his lessened role. Kobe has also been terrible defensively and is a big reason for their lackluster defense.

Kobe and Dwight are two of the least responsible people for the 1-4 start, but to say that they are blameless is false. In all honesty, I haven't seen anyone who has played up to their standards so far.

[Ol Dirty Bastard]

ESPN LA Radio spent all day talking about Mike Brown.

Literally every minute you would hear "Mike Brown"

FU...CK John Ireland

Biggest homer ever. Dude needs his lips surgically removed from Kobe's dick.

[tikay0]

I blame him for taking too many shots and dominating the ball even when he had a great PG. He treated Nash as if he was Steve Blake. And not Steve Nash.

THIS!!!! I rarely see him feed Dwight the ball. I'll see him occasionally pass gasol the rock.

[j3lademaster]

Doesn't matter who the coach is if these guys are going to just go through the motions like they are now. There's plenty that falls on Brown in this mess but the players are not giving effort or accountability for themselves.

When I see rebounds drop between Howard and Gasol who are standing 4 feet away from each other and Milsap sneaks in and grabs the ball that's not a Mike Brown problem that's on the players and it's happened way to many times already this year

Blaming Brown is a way for fan boys to avoid the truth that this team needs a serious attitude adjustment all across the board

Exactly. I recall something like this happening at least 3 times off the top of my head in the Utah game (albeit it not always being Millsap). It seems like the stars get played together way too much... and this puts them in "watch the star with the ball" mode, as opposed to cutting, setting offball screens, boxing out etc. Gotta split their time up, too much diminishing returns keeping that much talent on the floor at the same time. Keep at least 2 of kobe, Howard, Gasol on the floor at all times.

[bmulls]

Hopefully they fire Mike Brown and hire D'Antoni so we can watch this mess turn into a full on clusterfcking train wreck

[I<3NBA]

Dwight is, but his point isn't really accurate anyway. You don't automatically blame the best player when a team loses. What kind of retard logic is that? Just look at MJ in the 80's. You can be by far the best player on the court and still lose the game. The team with the best player doesn't automatically win. I mean, this couldn't be more obvious common sense.

Whoever the best player on the Lakers is. I say Dwight, you say Kobe. Regardless. If the #1 Laker plays epically well, they're still gonna lose if the rest of the team plays poorly. You don't then blame the best player who played well just because he's the best player when it was everyone else who didn't do their job.
:applause:

Both Kobe and Howard have been playing well up to this point. It's stupid to blame either of them for the 1-4 start.
actually, both Kobe and Howard have minor faults. they've been playing well, Kobe -scoring wise, and Howard still a double-double machine BUT, and here's the big but: Kobe has also been a turnover machine and Dwight on one game, was horrible on free throws and also has been turning the ball over a bit.

still, the Laker losses can largely be blamed on Steve fkn Blake and whoever the fk is supposed to run back to stop fast breaks. it couldn't be anymore obvious that their transition defense is killing them. Dwight's DPOY-like defense is useless if he can't use it. if the Lakers can't force other teams to play half-court offense, they'll lose majority of their games as their personnel isn't made to run.

so yes, Mike Brown has the largest blame. he's supposed to be a defensive coach so why can't he figure out how to slow down opposing teams so they can limit the fastbreaks?

one of it has to do with rotation and another has to do with defensive assignments. at any time, Mike Brown should not put together Dwight and Gasol together on the floor. that makes the unit extremely slow. and Steve fkn Blake should NEVER be on the floor. idk who he has to pull, or whatever, but they need a real PG fast.

and he should tell everyone to stop going for offensive rebounds and just run back PRONTO after the first shot.

[k0kakw0rld]

what hapens if world ends tomorrow
Lebron last MVP FMVP & GOld Medalist

[Mr. Jabbar]

What happens if The Lakers change their coach and still lose?

Easy. We blame whoever brought in the second coach, because he f'ed up twice but not once. We all know what this roster is capable of, thats out of question.

[NumberSix]

ESPN LA Radio spent all day talking about Mike Brown.

Literally every minute you would hear "Mike Brown"

FU...CK John Ireland

Biggest homer ever. Dude needs his lips surgically removed from Kobe's dick.
John Ireland isn't nearly the shameless homer max kellerman is. He's become truly unbearable. I'm not sure why they gave him and Marcellus mason and Ireland's timeslot.

[mehyaM24]

Doesn't matter who the coach is if these guys are going to just go through the motions like they are now. There's plenty that falls on Brown in this mess but the players are not giving effort or accountability for themselves.

When I see rebounds drop between Howard and Gasol who are standing 4 feet away from each other and Milsap sneaks in and grabs the ball that's not a Mike Brown problem that's on the players and it's happened way to many times already this year

Blaming Brown is a way for fan boys to avoid the truth that this team needs a serious attitude adjustment all across the board

this.


Again, no difference at all. The rest of your post, well, Kobe wouldn't be playing the same way now would he?

lmao :lol ...dont bother explaining it to that idiot. comprehension isn't his strong suit. good posts though....i agree!!