Dwight Howard to Kobe: Calm Down

[Clippersfan86]

Paraphrased of course but essentially what he's saying.

http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/lakers/post/_/id/34084/dwight-suggests-kobe-temper-frustrations


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[BEAST Griffin]

Leadershipwight

:bowdown:

[Rubio2Gasol]

He needs to lead the defense otherwise they might as well have kept Bynum.

[devin112]

Mature statement by Dwight.

[RRR3]

interesting.

[Nick Young]

Dwight content with a 1-12 record as long as he gets paid, Kobe's got alot to teach this kid if he's going to lead the franchise after Kobe leaves:facepalm

[TheMarkMadsen]

There was nothing wrong with Kobe being openly frustrated on the court.

Half the team didn't even look interested, walking back on D, they need a fire lit under them and maybe this is it.

Its well know Kobe is ultra competitive, it has to kill him to be doing so poorly with such a solid roster.

Dwights always had a chill "go with the flow" attitude but he needs to start taking these losses personally and get seriously motivated.

[Shepseskaf]

Dwight content with a 1-12 record as long as he gets paid, Kobe's got alot to teach this kid if he's going to lead the franchise after Kobe leaves:facepalm
DHo will be leaving LA as soon as he can. He doesn't want the pressure of leading the franchise. He'll head to a less high-profile location, and be happy to collect a paycheck and compile stats.

[Smoke117]

Dwight's back isn't even 100% and it's clearly evident if you have watched any Laker games so there is no reason to get on him about anything. He is obviously slowed down from his back right now.

[HorryIsMyMVP]

I don't think Kobe's attitude is why the Lakers in the past were great teams. They won despite having behavior problems with the kid. And that is an accomplishment we can add to Phil Jackson.

[TheBigVeto]

The Lakers need a mutiny to get rid of Kobe.
Once he's gone, they'll play better.

[Rubio2Gasol]

Dwight's back isn't even 100% and it's clearly evident if you have watched any Laker games so there is no reason to get on him about anything. He is obviously slowed down from his back right now.

Watched all.

Not communicating on defense whatsoever and not even looking like he's giving effort.

Which is essentially his job.

If they wanted offense they might as well have kept Bynum.

[RRR3]

Watched all.

Not communicating on defense whatsoever and not even looking like he's giving effort.

Which is essentially his job.

If they wanted offense they might as well have kept Bynum.
Dwight scores more than Bynum anyways.

[bmulls]

I've always thought that Kobe's leadership abilities were below average. He's got 1 tool in his toolbox and it's intimidation. Obviously Dwight isn't scared of Kobe and this statement is essentially him assuming the alpha role on the team.

[KOBE143]

Shut up Dwight.. You're no better than Bynum atm.. You need to prove first you worth the trade before you speak.. You suppose to be our future franchise when Kobe retire but it looks like you dont have the mentality of a winner.. We're 1-4 and you tell Kobe to calm down.. How will Kobe suppose to calm down when we have the worst record in the west.. Kobe really need to teach this kid a lesson.. :facepalm

[tikay0]

Lmao at kobetards attacking Dwight for saying some real shit.

[swi7ch]

I wonder if Dwight really came up with that or one of his PR people told him to say that...

[rhythmic]

I like the contrasting leadership styles we have on this team.
Nash/Howard/Gasol are more laid back and lead their team through support and encouragement. Kobe has a completely different style, where he demands the best from everyone and holds everyone accountable. The guy on countless occasions has worked on his game after a tough loss or a difficult season. He is well documented of being the first player at the practice facility and last to leave.

I don't have a problem with that, it's an asset to have a diverse set of leadership styles on a team. With that being said, I can not imagine how any of you can actually criticize Kobe for being openly frustrated.

He gets paid millions of dollars to play a game he loves, and he really cares about winning. As a fan, you tend to appreciate and support these types of athletes (Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, Ray Lewis to name a few others). The guy could care less about his job, but you can tell he does it for the love of the game and has a competitive spirit that very few athletes in any sports possess.

That, is what I have always admired about Kobe.
:oldlol: @ anyone who actually believes Bynum has the same impact as Dwight. Clearly not being at 100%, Dwight already has had 2 pretty dominant games. Bynum has probably had a total of 20 truly dominant games in his career, Howard accomplishes that feat in about half a season. His defensive impact FAR exceeds that of Bynum's and honestly I feel more comfortable with Dwight offensively as well. Yeah Bynum might be more versatile as a post scorer but he's not that effective when being doubled teamed and is no where near as good at reacting to double teams as Dwight. His outlet passes are far inferior to Dwight's as well, plus he is no where as mobile. Howard is a far better fit.

Our bench has no identity right now because of clueless coach, Nash is out, Kobe's hurt, Dwight's not 100% yet... fans in general and many Laker fans are so damn critical. Yes I get it, you want immediate results. Our coach sucks at managing our team, and we have too many new additions that were integral parts of their former teams that it will simply take time. Our offense is stagnant, our defensive rotations are atrocious, lack of communication on the court, poor coaching decisions (rotations), learning a new offense makes us prone to turnovers because it requires read and react intuition and a lot of ball movement... like it's common sense. I do get frustrated when I watch Lakers play, but after the dust settles I am not nearly as critical as someone other Laker fans are.

The consensus however, is that we can all agree that we need a new head coach. I think he is stubborn as hell. He has a limited ability as an Xs and Os coach and knows very little about offense. Therefore, he will be very reluctant to quit on Princeton's offense as long as he's our head coach.

A nice 6 game home stand, great opportunity for our team to find some momentum. I'm hopeful we can be 6-5 or 5-6 after this home-stand.

[tmacattack33]

[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]Paraphrased of course but essentially what he's saying.

http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/lakers/post/_/id/34084/dwight-suggests-kobe-temper-frustrations


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[Clippersfan86]

So the 26 year old (who isn't really known for being very mature anymore, after last year's drama) is more mature than the 34 year old. :applause:

Dwight has zero business to be telling anybody shit. Dude is the most immature player in the NBA on and off the court. I don't think Kobe saying he's upset is a big deal at all personally.

[Rubio2Gasol]

Dwight scores more than Bynum anyways.

They played at a different pace with Bynum. Bynum has more offensive potential.

If the guy isn't going to be the defensive leader I would have kept Bynum.

But I will simply give him some time and assume there's a natural adjustment period.

But instead of calming down he should get mad and protect the rim. If I was a Laker fan I would be more happy with that.

[Mrofir]

I don't see any way Kobe isn't at least a little irritated by these comments. Not a good look for Dwight to be overriding the hierarchy this early on.

In fact, I think Dwight would be 3rd or even arguably 4th on the team in term of veteran leadership and playoff experience combined with an ability to contribute.

[eriX]

Kobe vs Shaq (Dwight) Round 2 incoming?

I think so :cheers:

[BlueandGold]

As bad as this look this could actually be a good thing for the team.. opposite personalities often work well together.. sort of like the good cop/bad cop routine with either Kobe/Dwight or Kobe/Nash.

[jaydacris]

wow leadershipwight

[SCdac]

Stuff like this would be better if Dwight was already signed to a long term contract. There'd be more room to correct things and mesh. But there's high expectations of Dwight and the team, so I think (similar to what the playoffs are compared to the RS) everything is going to be under a magnifying glass. Mentally, I think Dwight is kind of a clown and not a natural leader.

[NumberSix]

Well, he's Right Howard....... See what I did?

[NumberSix]

So, just so my understanding is clear......

A. Cam Newton acting upset about losing makes him an immature piece of shit, a terrible leader and should possibly cost him his job.

B. Kobe Bryant acting upset about losing is the correct thing to do and anyone who says otherwise is a piece of shit.


Yea, I'm clear. The math checks out.

[FPJ]

Howard is finally smart. He wants tension so noone blames him when he leaves for New York next season.

[VegasLakerFan]

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[tikay0]

So, just so my understanding is clear......

A. Cam Newton acting upset about losing makes him an immature piece of shit, a terrible leader and should possibly cost him his job.

B. Kobe Bryant acting upset about losing is the correct thing to do and anyone who says otherwise is a piece of shit.


Yea, I'm clear. The math checks out.

Although the media does hate on black qb's. You gotta admit can is a douche. Plus with all his endorsement deals, his contract as a rookie, and all the hype surrounding him, he has to be criticized. Just a different standard than some bum qb.

With Kobe, the media just chalks it up as another Kobe being Kobe situation.

[bmulls]

Although the media does hate on black qb's. You gotta admit can is a douche. Plus with all his endorsement deals, his contract as a rookie, and all the hype surrounding him, he has to be criticized. Just a different standard than some bum qb.

With Kobe, the media just chalks it up as another Kobe being Kobe situation.

I can give Cam a break because he's like 22 years old. Kobe should know better.

[Rojogaqu11]

So, just so my understanding is clear......

A. Cam Newton acting upset about losing makes him an immature piece of shit, a terrible leader and should possibly cost him his job.

B. Kobe Bryant acting upset about losing is the correct thing to do and anyone who says otherwise is a piece of shit.


Yea, I'm clear. The math checks out.

You missed this in the equation:

C. Kobe is a veteran and a past champion, while Cam is a young and unproven player in a different role of a different sport.

[jstern]

I have to agreed because it can make things very awkward for his teammates. Unless he actually yelled at them to motivate them (in a motivating way, not putting them down way), looking all angry is just going to make things really uncomfortable for those under Kobe. And I'm sure Howard is probably getting bashed, but I really liked that he had the guts to actually say something.

[tikay0]

I can give Cam a break because he's like 22 years old. Kobe should know better.

That's my point. The media treats it like meh, we all know Kobe complains all the time.

[NumberSix]

Dwight being pretty mature if you ask me.

[NumberSix]

Just imagine this is the exact opposite. Dwight is acting all salty and pissed off. Kobe says we all need to calm down and work on getting this together. Don't fcking tell me people wouldn't be calling Dwight immature and Kobe is right.

[tikay0]

Just imagine this is the exact opposite. Dwight is acting all salty and pissed off. Kobe says we all need to calm down and work on getting this together. Don't fcking tell me people wouldn't be calling Dwight immature and Kobe is right.

Dude. Don't bother. The kobetards vastly outweigh the sane NBA fans. Your just gonna go in circles with certain posters.

[ihoopallday]

I don't see Howard resigning with this team unless they win the championship this year. By now, I'm sure he's realized how much pressure the Lakers can put on a player.

[bmulls]

I don't see Howard resigning with this team unless they win the championship this year. By now, I'm sure he's realized how much pressure the Lakers can put on a player.

He signs for the $$, dude's got like 19 kids already

[keepinitreal]

lol @ some of the people here.. now all of a sudden Bynum was amazing when he was a Laker :P

[ispin69]

ToldBe dun worries, he be outta there after the failed season anyways. :banana:

Nash is old broken bones.
Toldbe will be retiring soon.
Nothin left.

[Pointguard]

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[NumberSix]

I heard Dwight Howard really likes chicken mcnuggets.

[wagexslave]

Give me a f*cking break. This is the same douchephag that whined and cried like a fwustwated wittow baybay for like the past 2 YEARS STRAIGHT for his team to trade him, all because he wasn't capable of leading his team to winning a championship even with a solid cast of role players backing him.

Stop being a hypocrite, Dwight. You have no right to criticize anyone after that fiasco. You basically single handedly ruined the Magic franchise(at least for a while) and told your fans there to kiss your ass, all because you had your own personal frustrations and desires. What a joke.

[RazorBaLade]

Just imagine this is the exact opposite. Dwight is acting all salty and pissed off. Kobe says we all need to calm down and work on getting this together. Don't fcking tell me people wouldn't be calling Dwight immature and Kobe is right.

is this what people are defending?

i was listening to the radio today and it seems like the issue people have is what dwight said after the calm down part. the "all of want to win just as bad as kobe" bullshit

[Micku]

I think Jordan did the something similar in 98 saying how he shouldn't have came back if they weren't going to win and be competitive after Pippen was out with injury. Even though they came off a championship run.