2012/13 Observation Deck

[InspiredLebowski]

I can't figure out Henderson's hairline

[JMT]

That kid from Ol Miss is a dooshbag. They are my least favorite team in the tourney due to his comments last week and his "act".

[IGotACoolStory]

Henderson is something else.

And State getting that ass tapped. Are they more disappointing then Kentucky? Horribly underwhelming season if the result holds up.

[KG215]

And another "major" conference team that was unerseeded at 12 wins for the 3rd time.

[JMT]

And State getting that ass tapped. Are they more disappointing then Kentucky? Horribly underwhelming season if the result holds up.

No kidding. Team that has all the parts and played together so well in last season's tourney. They bear no resemblance to that squad.

[JMT]

They just flashed a graphic in the Temple-NC St game "FOUL TROUBLE"

It should have said "Every time either team goes to the line"

Awful FT shooting by both teams. At one point a combined 3-12

[GOBB]

8-17 from charity stripe for TU :facepalm

[KG215]

Temple 10/19 from the FT line has kept NC State in the game.

[KG215]

LaSalle is putting it on Kansas State.

[IGotACoolStory]

LaSalle is putting it on Kansas State.

Which means if we get by Nova today, almost the entire building will be Kansas fans.


Anyone see this? New Mexico guy quits his job covering the team after the loss.
http://newmexico.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1486756

:facepalm

[DaSeba5]

Miami played that game to perfection.

[ace23]

How about getting the #1 RPI because all they were doing was beating up on each other, and were seeded as such.

But when it came to the major conferences, the rest of us got screwed over. The selection committee said just as much. RPI was the reasoning for the Mountain West. Scheduling the reasoning for the conferences that actually play someone.

It was a bullshit double standard that left out better teams in the NIT and put the teams that did make it at a major disadvantage (horrible seeding).
What does any of this have to do with New Mexico's loss last night? You said they were good.

[IGotACoolStory]

What does any of this have to do with New Mexico's loss last night? You said they were good.

Huh? New Mexico was apart of the Mountain West failures. It's not about New Mexico... I don't know why you are harping on that. It's about the conference getting seeded according the RPI while the major conference not receiving the same benefit.

[ace23]

La Salle playing not to lose.

[ace23]

Huh? New Mexico was apart of the Mountain West failures. It's not about New Mexico... I don't know why you are harping on that. It's about the conference getting seeded according the RPI while the major conference not receiving the same benefit.
You made that comment right after New Mexico lost last night.

[IGotACoolStory]

You made that comment right after New Mexico lost last night.

That's because it was the last loss of the night for that conference.

What are you getting at? I feel like you are trying to get me to admit I'm wrong about something, but I have no idea what it is we are talking about. All I'm doing is repeating myself.

Just point out what it is you are talking about and I'll begrudgingly admit where I was wrong or prove to you that I wasn't.

[InspiredLebowski]

Which means if we get by Nova today, almost the entire building will be Kansas fans.


Anyone see this? New Mexico guy quits his job covering the team after the loss.
http://newmexico.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1486756

:facepalmDoesn't seem like he quit because of the loss or anything, he'd been doing it 33 years. Probably just retiring.

[IGotACoolStory]

I guess so. The last two-ish paragraphs read like he's quitting ("retiring" from) his job and giving up his fan card to me. :confusedshrug:

Deadspin on it now, fwiw.

http://deadspin.com/a-new-mexico-beat-writer-actually-quit-his-job-because-458421252?rev=1363984774&utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

[STATUTORY]

this doughy looking white boy on Creighton's got game. best player on the floor right now

[GOBB]

Lets go Lasalle!

[Twiens]

La Salle playing not to lose.
They look scared right now

[ace23]

That's because it was the last loss of the night for that conference.

What are you getting at? I feel like you are trying to get me to admit I'm wrong about something, but I have no idea what it is we are talking about. All I'm doing is repeating myself.

Just point out what it is you are talking about and I'll begrudgingly admit where I was wrong or prove to you that I wasn't.
You made it sound like NM/the Mountain West was overrated or something. They're not. Harvard just came to play.

[KG215]

And K-State comes all the way back to get the lead. They're outscoring LaSalle 31-12 in the second half.

[GOBB]

They look scared right now

Tall ass Rudy Gay has made a difference. Lasalle shot as well as they could first half. Now they are who we thought they were. Someone has to emerge tho. K State PG is a moron, dude throws questionable passes, Lasalle needs to take advantage.

[KG215]

You made it sound like NM/the Mountain West was overrated or something. They're not. Harvard just came to play.
Their #2 conference RPI and tournament record this year definitely at least lends some credence to the MWC being overrated.

[InspiredLebowski]

if they call that dumbass elbow rule again in this Creighton/Cincy game...

[ace23]

This ***** missed both. :facepalm

[dannywpt]

if they call that dumbass elbow rule again in this Creighton/Cincy game...

Ball don't lie

[InspiredLebowski]

Ball don't lieit's so ****ing dumb, you can basically just trap a guy and almost force him into a flagrant

[JMT]

if they call that dumbass elbow rule again in this Creighton/Cincy game...

Holy Christ. That's exactly what you're taught to do. :facepalm

It's amazing that college basketball, which has been premitted to get more and more physical over the years, is going to enforce this ridiculous i nterpretation of a rule.

Yesterday, and I can't recall which game, a guy was driving the lane when a defender basically dove into his extended arm/elbow. Absurd.

[KG215]

Ball don't lie
Well that, and it was 54% FT shooting freshman shooting the FT's.

[JMT]

There's been enough bad coaching in this LaSalle/K St game to cover a half dozen games.

If K State needs a 20 point comeback in front of their home crowd to beat Lasalle, it does not bode well for the rest of the Big 12.

[InspiredLebowski]

just leave the timeout in your pocket Weber, why not

[KG215]

All this talk about the MWC being the best non-"Big 6" conference, and it's the A-10 that goes 5-0 in the "2nd round" (6-0 if you count LaSalle's win in the play-in game and the MWC goes 1-4.

And Kansas State's season is on the line and Weber takes a timeout home with him.

[ace23]

How did Henriquez give the game away? That's what I'm reading on Twitter.

[JMT]

How did Henriquez give the game away? That's what I'm reading on Twitter.

They'd have lost by 15 without him. Guy averages 5/5 on the season and has the game of his life.

[IGotACoolStory]

What was that Kansas State guard doing at the end of the game? He wasted almost all of the clock then launched one from the other side of the backboard.

And, yes, I was also getting at the MWC being overrated (and overseeded). Turn it how you want, their teams are still losing.

[JMT]

All this talk about the MWC being the best non-"Big 6" conference, and it's the A-10 that goes 5-0 in the "2nd round" (6-0 if you count LaSalle's win in the play-in game and the MWC goes 1-4.

And Kansas State's season is on the line and Weber takes a timeout home with him.


Add that the PAC 12 was getting no respect from anybody, while the Big 12 has looked terrible. OSU dominated by Oregon, K State unable to beat LaSalle, who appears to have one guy taller than 5'11", in what was basically a home game.

[KG215]

What was that Kansas State guard doing at the end of the game? He wasted almost all of the clock then launched one from the other side of the backboard.

And, yes, I was also getting at the MWC being overrated (and overseeded). Turn it how you want, their teams are still losing.
It's hard to spin it any other way than them being overrated. The MWC was #2 in conference RPI but they're 1-5 in the tournament so far.

[JMT]

What was that Kansas State guard doing at the end of the game? He wasted almost all of the clock then launched one from the other side of the backboard.



Wondering if he wasn't expecting the timeout too.

[Burgz V2]

A-10 doing work, I had Temple as the only A-10 team getting through. Probably because that MWC is so good...oh wait...

[ace23]

It's hard to spin it any other way than them being overrated. The MWC was #2 in conference RPI but they're 1-5 in the tournament so far.
How about going 87-26 vs. teams outside of the conference and having the #1 conference RPI despite having the 3rd best win percentage against other conferences (implying tougher out-of-conference competition)? They're not overrated. They've just struggled in the tourney.

[Jailblazers7]

Holy Christ. That's exactly what you're taught to do. :facepalm

It's amazing that college basketball, which has been premitted to get more and more physical over the years, is going to enforce this ridiculous i nterpretation of a rule.

Yesterday, and I can't recall which game, a guy was driving the lane when a defender basically dove into his extended arm/elbow. Absurd.

That was in the Pitt game. The flagrant rule has been consistently awful all tournament.

[imdaman99]

colorado making a game of this :applause:

this booker kid is launchin them 3s :pimp:

[KG215]

How about going 87-26 vs. teams outside of the conference and having the #1 conference RPI despite having the 3rd best win percentage against other conferences (implying tougher out-of-conference competition)? They're not overrated. They've just struggled in the tourney.
I'm sorry, but a 1-5 tournament record (continuing to make their conference tournament record awful, especially against teams from the "Power 6" conferences) is more than struggling. That's not holding up your end of the bargain for getting favorable seeds due to a high conference RPI.

[IGotACoolStory]

How about going 87-26 vs. teams outside of the conference and having the #1 conference RPI despite having the 3rd best win percentage against other conferences (implying tougher out-of-conference competition)? They're not overrated. They've just struggled in the tourney.

87-26 against which teams? Of the 5 bids, only 2 wins were against ranked team (UCLA early when they were losing to Cal Poly at home and @Creighton).

The reason why the conference had the #1 RPI (which is a imperfect system) is because their teams manged to play a bunch of bad teams that weren't terrible in the OOC. As the RPI calculates by your record, your opponent's records, and their opponent's records.

So you can cheat the system by playing those 75-150 ranked teams and end up with a very high RPI. Which is what happened this year in the Mountain West, although I'm sure coincidentally as you can't really predict how your opponent's season will go.

[JMT]

I'm sorry, but a 1-5 tournament record (continuing to make their conference tournament record awful, especially against teams from the "Power 6" conferences) is more than struggling. That's not holding up your end of the bargain for getting favorable seeds due to a high conference RPI.

Have to agree, and I hate terms like "overrated". That ooc record in the regular season is nice, but when it translates to one-and-dones vs what should be overmatched opponents, you're just not that good.

If it walks, quacks and looks like a duck...

[Maniak]

ugh my entire west conference is almost completely ****ed. really gotta root for ohio st to make the final 4.

[ace23]

The reason why the conference had the #1 RPI (which is a imperfect system) is because their teams manged to play a bunch of bad teams that weren't terrible in the OOC. As the RPI calculates by your record, your opponent's records, and their opponent's records.

So you can cheat the system by playing those 75-150 ranked teams and end up with a very high RPI.
Their OOC schedules were still (by the SOS formula) better than the B1G and Big East's. So I guess those conferences' schools played bad teams? No one cheated anything.

[Maniak]

this starks guy is driving exceptionally well.

[ILLsmak]

man kstate and wisconsin losing kind of busted that part of my bracket. Oh well.

still doing ok.

-Smak

[Maniak]

im third in my group but have the second lowest possible points. 4 of my 16 sweet sixteen teams are out, including one that was in the elite 8.

my coinflip bracket is 10 of 24, haha.

[ace23]

Georgetown, along with Pitt, always seems to struggle in the postseason. I have them losing to UF in the Sweet 16.

[Maniak]

Georgetown, along with Pitt, always seems to struggle in the postseason. I have them losing to UF in the Sweet 16.
i have the same.

[Maniak]

unc is red hot right now. really good play

[ace23]

Lol, Georgetown's last four tournament losses have been to double-digit seeds. Wouldn't be surprised if they lost here. Most people probably have them in the Elite 8.

[JMT]

GTown clueless vs the matchup zone.

[Maniak]

wouldn't mind if they did. just did a quick scan of my bracket and most people have them going either the same length as me or further from what i saw.

[JMT]

I'm sorry, but a 1-5 tournament record (continuing to make their conference tournament record awful, especially against teams from the "Power 6" conferences) is more than struggling. That's not holding up your end of the bargain for getting favorable seeds due to a high conference RPI.


Hey, where's Kiddlovesnets? Isn't he the one that guaranteed you that UNC wouldn't make the tournament this year?

[Maniak]

who does unc have behind paige at pg?

[KG215]

Hey, where's Kiddlovesnets? Isn't he the one that guaranteed you that UNC wouldn't make the tournament this year?
I think he actually said UNC would "barely" make the tournament, which wsn't true since they comfortably got in. He said Kentucky wouldn't make it, which happened, but obviously only because their best player got hurt.

[Maniak]

man i hate the ticker thing above what im watching on tv because the MMOD is like 20-40 seconds behind. so the score on TV spoils the other game that i'm watching on my computer with MMOD.

life is tough

[KG215]

who does unc have behind paige at pg?
No one. Dexter Strickland is the defacto back-up PG, but he's a senior. I really think Roy Williams thought Kendall Marshall would be here at least one more year. We've got another PG coming next year who, at one point was a low 5-star/high 4-star, but has now slipped big time in the rankings.

And don't look now, but Nova is on a run and has gotten back in the game.

[Maniak]

yeah. unc still has a decent cushion

mcadoo took back to back questionable shots in my opinion. tough to have the momentum shift away from you at the end like that.

marshall should have stayed at least another year but oh well....

[Jailblazers7]

Great tip slam by some white dude on Florida GC. They are looking strong right now.

Not sure if G-Town will lose but I don't think they are a 2 seed type of team. They played a little above their heads during the season and deserved their seed but I don't think they are all that good.

[KG215]

That fast start by UNC was a bit of fool's gold. We hit some tough deep 3's and we were converting their turnovers into points and they weren't converting UNC's into points. Now they're getting in our face on defense and, as we've done all year against teams that play tough physical defense, we're wilting, taking bad shots and turning the ball over. And now Villanova is turning those turnovers into points. Wouldn't surprise me even a little bit if Nova came back and won the game.

[KG215]

Wow....FGCU is scary right now. Playing with a ton of confidence, making deep 3's, and they just have the "look" of a team poised for a big upset.

[KG215]

Yep...UNC may blow a 20 point first half lead and lose. Villanova ha all the momentum and is playing with a ton of confidence right now.

[Burgz V2]

GTown, please pull this out, think of the brackets! for the love of god, the brackets!!!

[imdaman99]

cmon FGC, dont choke this one away

[Maniak]

really wish i ended up putting fgcu over gtown. i just thought it was too much of a stretch...

[imdaman99]

wowwwww that was a ballzy alleyoop :eek: but it paid off :bowdown:

[ace23]

Smith-Rivera about to cry. :oldlol:

[Maniak]

three straight threes from unc...not unanswered, but still, very nice.

[Maniak]

wow ohio looking to break 100. make an example and dominate the west straight to the final 4 baby

unc/nova game is getting good. unc gotta get some stops down low if they wanna hold on

[ace23]

Let's go Heels!

[IGotACoolStory]

This team has taken 20 years out of my life. Most depressing win since the one over Creighton in the tournament last year.

1) Kansas is going to kill us.
2) Not going to name names, but I can't wait for some of these key players to go to the NBA/graduate.

[KG215]

Given Georgetown's recent tournament history, and what Florida Gulf Coast did against some elite teams this year, that's not a real shocking 15/2 upset. Georgetown fans have to be on suicide watch, though. They lose to a damn double digit seed every year.

[KG215]

This team has taken 20 years out of my life. Most depressing win since the one over Creighton in the tournament last year.

1) Kansas is going to kill us.
2) Not going to name names, but I can't wait for some of these key players to go to the NBA/graduate.
I'm fine with losing Dex but, regardless of how frustrating he is, we need McAdoo next year if we're going to compete and be Elite 8/Final 4 caliber.

And I'm strangely at peace with that game. Villanova is the exact type of team that gave us fits this year. Really tough, really physical defensive teams have owned and embarrassed us all season long. Granted Villanova isn't as good as those teams, but that's exactly how they got back in the game. Fortunately we regained our composure and found a way to win. When you've got a 150 pound freshman playing PG against defenses like that, there's going to be a lot of ups and downs in those games.

And yes, Kansas will murder us. They're arguably the best defensive team in the country. We may have 25+ turnovers and will lose by at least 25.

[IGotACoolStory]

McAdoo lacks too much polish to continue to feed him the ball like that. The guy takes horrible shots, and unfortunately he's a terrible bad shot maker. He can blow by any post player in the country. ...Then he misses bunnies like he's been playing basketball for 10 days. Zero touch around the rim. Not that he blows by his defenders most of the time anyway. He would rather shoot jumpers. If he gets fouled, he shoots around 50% from the line. Yep. That guy who shoots free throws like he's Dwight Howard wants to shoot jumpers.

He would be nice if we had a Zeller, or May, or Hansbrough in the post. Henson or even Deon would suffice. Too bad recruiting a true post player has been impossible since 2009. 2009! Thankfully we got Meeks coming in next year, but that guy just isn't conditioned well enough to play in this system for a long minutes. Plus I heard he's a finesse player... Fadeaway jumpers, high post type of game... Hicks is apparently the same way.

McAdoo also commits some of the most mind-numbingly stupid plays at the end of games. He had a couple in this game. He lofted a pass across the halfcourt like he was playing toss with a dog. Of course Nova stole it. Then later he inbounded the ball to Paige who was already double teamed at the corner of the court. Of course Nova forced a turnover... PJ flared open right in his face and McAdoo still forced it to Paige. Or at least call a damn timeout if the 5 seconds is coming close. You know Roy has a bunch saved up.

It's a shame that his game isn't ideal for Roy's system and he has to be that guy because there's not another player worth a damn to start a center. I think he would be a great #2 post/#2 or 3 overall option. But it's what has happened and unless someone makes huge strides next year, it will happen again. I'm ready to move on to someone who Roy doesn't feel the need to force the ball down to because he's supposedly a lottery talent.

And let me clarify: Not saying I don't want him to return. If he does then great, so as long as his role is redefined. But in terms of guys who can potentially leave after this season, he's 3rd on my list. I also do think he will become a good pro, btw. Even if all I do is criticize him.

[KG215]

Who's the first two on your list? I'm assuming Strickland is one of them and McDonald? Strickland makes sense, and I can understand and see why some fans would be tired of Leslie. He has slow release, forces 2-3 shots a game that would be open shots if his release wasn't so damn slow, and gets another 1-2 shots blocked a game because of his release. But the rest of the guys, I'm fine with and hope they come back.

[Maniak]

if wiggins goes unc and they upgrade at pg theyd be pretty good eh?

im kinda feeling he goes kansas although my guess is as good as any.

[IGotACoolStory]

Who's the first two on your list? I'm assuming Strickland is one of them and McDonald? Strickland makes sense, and I can understand and see why some fans would be tired of Leslie. He has slow release, forces 2-3 shots a game that would be open shots if his release wasn't so damn slow, and gets another 1-2 shots blocked a game because of his release. But the rest of the guys, I'm fine with and hope they come back.

I think I worded wrong or you misunderstood.

Of the potential early entrants? McAdoo, PJ, and Reggie are the only three who might leave. Leslie ain't going no where and Dex is gone no matter what.

1) PJ
2) Reggie
3) McAdoo

No offense to Leslie, but I don't want a situation where he is starting. Just don't. Nevermind that would mean increased minutes for JP who has fallen off the planet after his modest freshman start. In fact.. He would be our only back up wing, right? If PJ and/or Reggie left

Paige - Britt
Reggie - JP
Leslie - JP

Paige - Britt
Leslie - JP
PJ - JP

...

I'll do you one better:

Team A
Paige - Britt
Reggie - Leslie
PJ - JP
Brice - Hicks - Simmons
Hubert - Meeks - James

Team B
Paige - Britt
Leslie - JP - Britt
PJ - JP
McAdoo - Brice- Hicks - Simmons
Hubert - Meeks - James

Team C
Paige - Britt
Reggie - JP - Britt
Leslie - JP
McAdoo - Brice- Hicks - Simmons
Hubert - Meeks - James

Which do you prefer? Roy is going back to his traditional lineup (which I agree with) unless everyone returns + Wiggins. Feel free to shift some of the starters around like starting Meeks or something if that helps. Just guessing on that. Stay in the 1-5 lineup tho. No small ball, or convince me that Roy would do it again with any of those rosters.

[imdaman99]

Is it me, or is Kansas down?

[Maniak]

theyre not playing very fantastic basketball right now.

[Maniak]

can someone explain why kansas keeps on forcing up threes when theyre doing a fantastic job in the paint?

[KG215]

if wiggins goes unc and they upgrade at pg theyd be pretty good eh?

im kinda feeling he goes kansas although my guess is as good as any.
We're not upgradiing at PG. Paige actually turned into a very good PG who came up huge in multiple games down the stretch in a tight game this year. The PG we have coming in next year could be good, but he won't be anything special. At least not next year. I'm not 100% sure what happened, but he really plummeted in the recruiting rankings over the last year. He was a 5-star at one point on some I believe, but now he's a middle/bottom of the pack 4-star. He had other offers from Arizona, Georgetown, and Maryland I believe.

Yes, if UNC somehow gets Wiggins (doubtful), and everyone that can, does come back, they could be pretty dangerous next year.

[KG215]

I think I worded wrong or you misunderstood.

Of the potential early entrants? McAdoo, PJ, and Reggie are the only three who might leave. Leslie ain't going no where and Dex is gone no matter what.

1) PJ
2) Reggie
3) McAdoo

No offense to Leslie, but I don't want a situation where he is starting. Just don't. Nevermind that would mean increased minutes for JP who has fallen off the planet after his modest freshman start. In fact.. He would be our only back up wing, right? If PJ and/or Reggie left
I misread your initial post I think. But I agree on Leslie. He's good in a role where he plays about 20 minutes a game, and he rarely shows up against good teams...and by rarely I mean never.


Team A
Paige - Britt
Reggie - Leslie
PJ - JP
Brice - Hicks - Simmons
Hubert - Meeks - James
That team would be alright if Brice gets stronger and learns he doesn't have to shoot it every time he touches it. I actually like Brice's potential and think he's going to turn into a pretty good post scoring threat.


Team B
Paige - Britt
Leslie - JP - Britt
PJ - JP
McAdoo - Brice- Hicks - Simmons
Hubert - Meeks - James

Like team A better. Would rather have both of P.J. and Reggie and no McAdoo, instead of one of P.J. or Reggie with McAdoo.


Team C
Paige - Britt
Reggie - JP - Britt
Leslie - JP
McAdoo - Brice- Hicks - Simmons
Hubert - Meeks - James
Like the team with P.J. (basing this on potential only) than Reggie, so Team C over Team B. But, gun to my head, I'd probably take Team A over both B and C.


Which do you prefer? Roy is going back to his traditional lineup (which I agree with) unless everyone returns + Wiggins. Feel free to shift some of the starters around like starting Meeks or something if that helps. Just guessing on that. Stay n the 1-5 lineup tho. No small ball, or convince me that Roy would do it again with any of those rosters.
One thing that worries me is that under Roy, it seems like freshmen rarely step in and become studs almost right away, regardless of how highly ranked and touted they were. And that seems to go doubly for big men, save Hansbrough. So, at the end of the day, if we want to be a Final Four caliber team next year we need everyone back that can come back, and that still may not be enough if we still try to forcefeed McAdoo too much. He's a bad shot/turnover waiting to happen. He rarely utilizes his athletic advantage and it pisses me off.

[Maniak]

kansas makes sense because he'd just take mclemores place and theyre a good program, team, etc

unc makes sense because of the coach, culture, and a decent team around him. however he went to them when duke annihilated them so that might not play too well into the recruitment there.

florida state i think is that one other team? his good friend declared there iirc and they've had some good years. not too likely but could happen because of the connections there he has with friends/family

then kentucky is kinda weird. they're already quite stacked so he's either going to miami heat or cleveland cavaliers, i guess.

[ace23]

Anybody know where I can see what percentage of people picked each team for every matchup? Don't care if it's ESPN, Yahoo, or whatever.

[IGotACoolStory]

So, at the end of the day, if we want to be a Final Four caliber team next year we need everyone back that can come back

I agree with that. Again, not forcing McAdoo out the door... I'll be happy if he returns.

Part of the reason we are playing small ball is because Dex just doesn't provide enough on offense. In the case of everyone returning and no Wiggins, all we do is use the lineup we had early this year, except shift Reggie back to the 2 and PJ to the 3. Maybe someone emerges at center. I pray for someone to.

My concern (and main point about McAdoo) is that in this hypothetical lineup, we are forcing the ball to him even more now. There's a reason why his attempts are down since we moved to 4 out-1 in. Unless he develops some type of post game, his efficiency is just going to be awful. Plus he loses spacing to utilize his most effective move/play (imo): cut off a pick and slashing right to the rim. I don't know the technical term or play name, but I'm sure you know what I'm talking about.

I also know Roy will feed any post player in that setup. The concern is that I can't help but think he will feed McAdoo a bit too much because he's returning to school with his lofty status. Remember what Barnes was allowed to get away with in his two years? I see it being the same, except less efficient and in the post. With someone like Brice in there, it will likely become a more balanced offensive attack. Mostly because Roy will be forced to with his main offensive weapons at the 1, 2 and 3.

That's all I was getting at.

[Maniak]

san diego getting hot and iowa st with a cushy lead. just nailed a shot as i typed this haha.

looking good for this guy.

i gotta say from what i saw from that kansas game mclemore looked stagnant, they werent running much into him. i dont know shit but i hope to see that change up second half.

[Maniak]

franklin trying to throw that down is really risky. woulda had me out of my seat but instead he hurts himself. luckily its nothing too bad.

san diego st is in too good of rhythm.

[KG215]

Notre Dame...just another Big East team that almost always flops big time come tourney time. I mean they aren't even playing Iowa State kind of close....down 24 with 6 minutes to go.

[ace23]

Did this guy say "Timberlake-like shoes"?

[Maniak]

Did this guy say "Timberlake-like shoes"?
i thought he said timberland shoes like the hiking boots

[IGotACoolStory]

Anybody know where I can see what percentage of people picked each team for every matchup? Don't care if it's ESPN, Yahoo, or whatever.

Spent the last 15 minutes looking for one and couldn't find one. I would have sworn that would be easy to find before I started looking. Seems like an obvious feature to have.

Did find this...
http://tournament.fantasysports.yahoo.com/t1/cheatsheet

No percentages, but I presume the average bracket by a Yahoo player. And to no surprise, it's all chalk. Every single pick.

If you find one, post it please. I would be interested in seeing that too.

[ace23]

i thought he said timberland shoes like the hiking boots
Naw, he said Timberlake-like shoes. I think I was watching a different feed. There are multiple.

[Maniak]

is there a replay feature on this mmod thing? some guy just tripped down the stairs in the background of that FT attempt and i wanna .gif it

[ace23]

Spent the last 15 minutes looking for one and couldn't find one. I would have sworn that would be easy to find before I started looking. Seems like an obvious feature to have.

Did find this...
http://tournament.fantasysports.yahoo.com/t1/cheatsheet

No percentages, but I presume the average bracket by a Yahoo player. And to no surprise, it's all chalk. Every single pick.

If you find one, post it please. I would be interested in seeing that too.
Lol, it was literally linked right next to the link you posted. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction though.

http://tournament.fantasysports.yahoo.com/t1/pickdistribution

[Maniak]

from what i recall the only upsets that where higher % on yahoo were missouri, maybe iowa state, and minnesota

[ace23]

:roll: Half the country had G'Town in the Elite 8, a quarter in the Final Four. Makes me feel good about myself.

[Maniak]

after awhile all the commentators sound the same when you go stream to stream

[IGotACoolStory]

Lol, it was literally linked right next to the link you posted. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction though.

http://tournament.fantasysports.yahoo.com/t1/pickdistribution

Ha! :oldlol: I blame the small menus.

The loss of Adams is killing UCLA. They aren't getting anything from 3.

[KG215]

This is such a strange game, because it's not your typical 14-16 seed playing a 1-3 seed close where they're really hot and hitting a bunch of threes. Western Kentucky is just 1-for-9 from three.

[Maniak]

i think ill watch ucla/minny until it gets into crunchtime for kansas/w kentucky

shabazz doing good in the second half

boom goes the dynamite for minny

[ace23]

WKU starting to chuck threes

[KG215]

Western Kentucky, 2/17 from three, and they're only down 5 to a 1-seed with a minute to go.

[IGotACoolStory]

WKU had their chances.

Chances KU goes off from against us from 3 after this 0-6 performance?

I say 95%.

[KG215]

WKU had their chances.

Chances KU goes off from against us from 3 after this 0-6 performance?

I say 95%.
This is pretty much the same Kansas team that showed up in that loss to TCU. UNC, of course, will get the same Kansas team that showed up in the Big 12 championship game and blew out Kansas State.

[beer]

and the ben howland era comes to an end.

the 40% transfer rate in the ncaa is about to take a hit

[qrich]

and the ben howland era comes to an end.

the 40% transfer rate in the ncaa is about to take a hit

Howland to CSUN...:facepalm

But really, should not have lost so badly, despite no Jordan Adams. My bracket got blitzkreiged tonight

[Balla_Status]

http://nbccollegebasketballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/marshall_hendersonauburn.gif

[Burgz V2]

glad I called Minnesota and Temple, tempted to picked Colorado over Illinois but decided against it last minute. My East and South regions are pretty much intact except for the Gtown loss and the UNLV choke. My West region is obliterated.

[Jailblazers7]

Think I had GTown losing in the sweet 16 so I dont care. Got plwnty wrong the past two days but all my Elite 8 teams survived.

[JMT]

14 of 16 and everyone above still alive.

[Maniak]

this michigan/vcu game is gonna be good.

i hope michigan wasted all of their shooting 2 nights ago so VCU can wipe the floor with a second team.

[ace23]

I like this pace. No fouls either.

[Jailblazers7]

I like this pace.

Yeah, I hope is stays relatively fast paced after all the bad, low-scoring games the past two days.

Not sure I would wanna get in a track meet with Michigan tho.

[Maniak]

can someone explain that charge call to me? such a late whistle and he was barely set

[ace23]

can someone explain that charge call to me? such a late whistle and he was barely set
Explanation:

It was a terrible call.

[ace23]

A-10 is 6-0 in tournament play so far. Underrated? :roll:

[Maniak]

Explanation:

It was a terrible call.
thats what i saw as well, just wanted to make sure i didnt miss anything as i couldnt hear the commentators that clearly or anything

[Jailblazers7]

A-10 is 6-0 in tournament play so far. Underrated? :roll:

Too bad the A-10 is about to get gutted.

[Twiens]

McGrary just smashed someone, sick game. I need a Michigan win since they're in my final 4.

[Maniak]

michigan is scoring well and vcu is not. vcu's foul trouble isn't helping anything either.

[ace23]

Too bad the A-10 is about to get gutted.
I actually have Butler beating Marquette and Miami to get to the Elite Eight. Funny that only 53% of people have Marquette going to the Sweet Sixteen as a 3 seed.

[Jailblazers7]

I actually have Butler beating Marquette and Miami to get to the Elite Eight. Funny that only 53% of people have Marquette going to the Sweet Sixteen as a 3 seed.

Yeah, I think it was pretty clear that the Big East wasn't that strong this year. Other than Louisville, its just a bunch of avg to above avg teams. Even Louisville struggled quite a bit and are prob being overrated a bit now going into the tourney.

[Maniak]

vcu's defense really stepping it up on the last few possessions with good steals and hustle. still not getting it on the offensive side of things though...

michigan keeps missing threes but man another tough layup missed by vcu...

[Maniak]

wow long last name white guy with a 1 on 4 defensive stop

[imdaman99]

mcgary is a beast. hes a freshman white center with great athleticism and a tremendous motor.

outlook on whether he has a future in the NBA?

[Maniak]

can someone give michigan a tech or something for all these illegal screens? thats twice now a guy has taken an elbow straight to the face

[imdaman99]

this is the burke that i wanna see :applause: nothing like he was against south dakota state at all

[Maniak]

finally vcu hits a jumper :oldlol:

tough first half. interior defense has been pretty suspect.

[ace23]

When did Rachel Nichols join CBS?

[imdaman99]

safe to say that michigan came more prepared than akron did against this crazy press of VCU. of course the talent helps too :oldlol: hail to the victors great 1st half :bowdown: not a michigan grad, just a fan since fab 5 days :pimp:

i like this henderson kid at ole miss. hes like a white version of JR and a lot more enigmatic. even though i hate JR :lol

[KG215]

safe to say that michigan came more prepared than akron did against this crazy press of VCU. of course the talent helps too :oldlol: hail to the victors great 1st half :bowdown: not a michigan grad, just a fan since fab 5 days :pimp:

i like this henderson kid at ole miss. hes like a white version of JR and a lot more enigmatic. even though i hate JR :lol
That, and Akron was short 3 or 4 players including their starting PG. I think I read he actually got kicked off the team or something a couple of weeks ago, and they had a few other guys with the flu or something.

Michigan is a bad match-up for VCU, too They've got arguably the best PG in the country and another very capable ball-handle in Hardaway Jr. That's the reason I picked them to win this game. In just about any other region, I probably would've put VCU in the Sweet 16.

[Maniak]

well now i'll just be tied for first :(

[ace23]

I have Memphis pulling off the upset here.

[KG215]

So VCU won their first round game by 46 points and lost their second round game by 25.

[ace23]

Memphis really has to work for every single bucket it seems. Shot clock is always inside of 10 seconds when they finally pull the trigger.

[ace23]

Why do they keep leaving Harris??? :biggums:

[ace23]

What the ****?! :biggums:

[KG215]

F**k day 2 of the tourney where there's only one game on at a time. Looks like the first two games are going to be a blowout and there's not another game to switch to.

[ace23]

Holy shit! If Stephens had made that...And then the hustle offensive rebound. :applause:

[Rose]

If Stephens last game is this one, he's putting it all out there. :applause:

[KG215]

D.J. Stephens, at just 6'5", now has 11 blocks in the tournament.

[InspiredLebowski]

Gary Harris y u haz to go to State?

[Burgz V2]

well we're up with +5 TOs so there's a silver lining at least. gotta keep getting stops and everything will be okay, this Memphis is really dangerous when they have momentum on their side.

[InspiredLebowski]

Izzo's like the only coach that actually answers the sideline reporter questions

[KG215]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SyFv7Erfes8#at=22

D.J. Stephens needs to get in the NBA just so we can see him in the dunk contest.

[Burgz V2]

Gary Harris y u haz to go to State?

lol we've been over this I think

Izzo made him forget his lineage :lol

[Kujo]

When did Rachel Nichols join CBS?

January. She actually joined CNN and Tuner Sports.

http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2013/01/24/rachel-nichols-joins-cnn-and-turner-sports/?on.cnn=1

Good to see a close after seeing Michigan school VCU.

[IGotACoolStory]

Jeez... First time seeing it when they showed the pic during the game.

http://www.hoopsfix.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/DJ-Stephens-Kissing-the-Rim.jpg

That's insane.

[InspiredLebowski]

lol we've been over this I think

Izzo made him forget his lineage :lolI just hope he goes pro at this point

[ace23]

January. She actually joined CNN and Tuner Sports.

http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2013/01/24/rachel-nichols-joins-cnn-and-turner-sports/?on.cnn=1

Good to see a close after seeing Michigan school VCU.
Isn't CNN associated with ESPN/ABC?

[UConnCeltics]

Rachel Nichols sure is self-conscious about that second nose growing out of her right cheek.

[InspiredLebowski]

Isn't CNN associated with ESPN/ABC?No. CNN's a Time Warner/Turner channel, ESPN and ABC are Disney

[Burgz V2]

Jeez... First time seeing it when they showed the pic during the game.

http://www.hoopsfix.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/DJ-Stephens-Kissing-the-Rim.jpg

That's insane.

yea i saw that too, dude is ridiculous, that lob dunk he had earlier in the year was insane.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuS3oOCLG3w


I just hope he goes pro at this point

I'm pretty sure he's gonna stay one more and then bolt next year.

[ace23]

Good Lord, Stephens is hustling.

[Burgz V2]

Gary Harris just made the best penetration move I've seen him make all season, this guy gets better every game

[InspiredLebowski]

I'm pretty sure he's gonna stay one more and then bolt next year.I think so too but State pulls a Final 4 run w/ him being a major (if not THE) reason why I could see him shooting up draft boards pretty high, he's probably already a late lotto guy

[KG215]

The refs get overzealous when it comes to the block/charge call, and call way too many charges. That was a terrible call.

[Burgz V2]

can someone put out a search party for Branden Dawson

also what a TERRIBLE CHARGE call

[Jailblazers7]

The refs get overzealous when it comes to the block/charge call, and call way too many charges. That was a terrible call.

I think its because it allows them to make dramatic body motions. :oldlol:

[InspiredLebowski]

what's that Nix/Dawson stuff about?

[IGotACoolStory]

Damn, Nix looked like he was going to murder someone.


And I'm changing my Wiggins pick to UNC, so as long as no one blows up in the tournament.

[KG215]

So UConn's women won by 68 today and that's just tied for the 3rd largest MOV in school history. There's been 9 games in women's tournament history decided 60+ points and UConn is responsible for 4 of them.

[KG215]

Damn, Nix looked like he was going to murder someone.


And I'm changing my Wiggins pick to UNC, so as long as no one blows up in the tournament.
Did you hear or read something that made you change your mind? And what do you mean as long as no blows up? For UNC or another team?

[InspiredLebowski]

So UConn's women won by 68 today and that's just tied for the 3rd largest MOV in school history. There's been 9 games in women's tournament history decided 60+ points and UConn is responsible for 4 of them.womens ball seems so boring. I don't mean the actual play, just that there's only ever like 4 good teams in a given year. the margins of victory are always nuts.

[Burgz V2]

I think so too but State pulls a Final 4 run w/ him being a major (if not THE) reason why I could see him shooting up draft boards pretty high, he's probably already a late lotto guy

Yea good point. He's been relied on heavily for the better part of February and into the conference tourney. We really struggle to get spacing without him on the floor. Izzo is probably hoping the scouts don't pick that up

He we come.

[KG215]

Adreian Payne is such a nice player. Really long athletic 6'10" PF with a mid-range game.

[InspiredLebowski]

Adreian Payne is such a nice player. Really long athletic 6'10" PF with a mid-range game.I love his skillset for the NBA, really needs to work on giving a shit more consistently though

[KG215]

I love his skillset for the NBA, really needs to work on giving a shit more consistently though
Yeah, he's got prototypical NBA PF size, length, athleticism and skill set. Can't believe he's not being projected as a consensus lottery pick in this weak draft class.

[Burgz V2]

Bring Da Paaaayyyyynnneeeee

[InspiredLebowski]

What's Marshall Henderson do after a tourney win? Hits the bar, obviously (http://deadspin.com/here-are-some-photos-of-marshall-henderson-out-drinking-458512990).

[IGotACoolStory]

Yeah, Payne is making himself a shit load of money right now.


Did you hear or read something that made you change your mind? And what do you mean as long as no blows up? For UNC or another team?

Obviously a lot can happen between now and the deadline to enter the NBA, but apparently chances of McAdoo returning are higher than what was previously implied. Between that and PJ guaranteeing his mom he would go to college for 3 years (per his uncle who likes to post on rival's message board), that might be what pushes UNC over the top.

And where Wiggins goes to college is more than likely where his father wants him to go. Which you can interpret any number of ways.

Unless someone big happens, I'm sticking with my UNC pick until the early entrant deadline passes.

McAdoo stays = I think UNC
McAdoo leaves = KU, UK or FSU. My gut says KU, but that is PURELY my gut. No evidence to back that up. Wouldn't be surprised if it's FSU. I would if it's UK.

[InspiredLebowski]

So I guess Bruce Weber did call a timeout yesterday, just nobody was paying attention.

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18ib19lhvefdsgif/ku-xlarge.gif

[ace23]

MSU's Trice has a very high basketball IQ.

[Burgz V2]

for the sake of consistency with this rule, that has to be a flagrant, cant complain. But man, that was a good basketball foul

[IGotACoolStory]

There have been a few bad flagrant foul calls this tournament, imo.

Which is weird because the refs usually let the players get away with so much shit in college basketball.


http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2368329/spartymad.gif


lulz

[Burgz V2]

MSU's Trice has a very high basketball IQ.

he's a really great complimentary guard, especially on defence, he really picks up his rotations quick and is tireless pressing the ball.

Will need more out of him next year, hope he gets better.

[IGotACoolStory]

Guess Dixon staying at Pitt

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9089508/pittsburgh-panthers-extends-coach-jamie-dixon

Well played by him.

[Burgz V2]

a classic MSU win. TOs in the first half really hurt us. Responded by dominating the boards. +16 by the end of the game but it was +20 at some point i remember.

next round is going to be tough though no matter who we play.

[Burgz V2]

man Louisville's press is crazy

[Burgz V2]

man colorado st. would have a chance in a neutral arena, but this crowd is waiting to explode. they've had some success breaking the press but they have to take advantage of the live ball and get the inbounder running up and down the baseline, because on a dead ball Louisville is all over them

[Burgz V2]

well, Colorado St. hanging around even though they had a lot of TOs. ive never seen a team in need of halftime more than them, this is going to be a long 7+ mins.

[KG215]

All things considered, Colorado State should feel decent about only being down 14. That ridiculous shot by Harrell had to hurt, though.

[KG215]

Harvard, before that 3, had 2 points in almost 8 minutes. And that 3 was their first FG and we're 8+ minutes into the first half.

[InspiredLebowski]

Welp, it was fun while it lasted Harvard.

Going around that Ben Howland's getting fired tomorrow. SHAKA WATCH STARTS NOW.

[Burgz V2]

Welp, it was fun while it lasted Harvard.

Going around that Ben Howland's getting fired tomorrow. SHAKA WATCH STARTS NOW.

yep. and when Butler goes out, let the rumours swirl about Stevens.

I'd be kinda surprised if Shaka went to UCLA though. But if they guarantee him long term I don't know how he can turn it down.

[Burgz V2]

Switched over to the Arizona game to see if it's more competitive. Switched right back.

[InspiredLebowski]

yep. and when Butler goes out, let the rumours swirl about Stevens.

I'd be kinda surprised if Shaka went to UCLA though. But if they guarantee him long term I don't know how he can turn it down.I don't really know enough about Shaka to say if he'd go or not, but I'd be stunned if Stevens took it. I'd be stunned if Stevens took any job but Indiana or Duke, and even then I'd be surprised. I really think Stevens is at Butler for good.

[Jailblazers7]

Pitt signs Jamie Dixon to a 10 year extension. Jesus Christ. :facepalm

[InspiredLebowski]

it's kinda weird how much attention they're giving that CSU kid in the ram suit

[Maniak]

damn billycans dont **** me over

[IGotACoolStory]

All these games are blowouts... Oregon is impressive, tho.


Shaka Smart, Brad Stevens, Mark Gottfried, Billy Donovan and Jay Wright are on UCLA’s wish list, the source said.
http://zagsblog.com/articles/source-ucla-to-fire-howland/

Not that I like Zagoria...


I was wondering about Gottfried. His name was brought up with UCLA last year too before Bazz bought Howland one more year. That would be a horrible hire, and I kind of want him to stay at State because he can't coach a lick.

[KG215]

All these games are blowouts... Oregon is impressive, tho.


http://zagsblog.com/articles/source-ucla-to-fire-howland/

Not that I like Zagoria...


I was wondering about Gottfried. His name was brought up with UCLA last year too before Bazz bought Howland one more year. That would be a horrible hire, and I kind of want him to stay at State because he can't coach a lick.
Gottfried already was known for not getting the most out of his talent while at Alabama. He had some very talented teams there, too, and got past the first weekend of the tournament once. He probably overachieved in the tournament last year but, with arguably even more talent after the addition of T.J. Warren and Rodney Purvis, to go with Leslie, Howell, and Wood, they badly underachieved.

I agree, I don't want him to go to UCLA, either. I'm fine with him staying at NC State, getting good talent (keeping them away from some other schools as long as it's not UNC), and underachieving most years with said talent.

[Burgz V2]

I don't really know enough about Shaka to say if he'd go or not, but I'd be stunned if Stevens took it. I'd be stunned if Stevens took any job but Indiana or Duke, and even then I'd be surprised. I really think Stevens is at Butler for good.

well with them going to the Big East they are going to get a bit more exposure, and possibly be able to retain some more local talent (I know you don't want to hear that) and more talent in the midwest/east coast in general, so I think Stevens staying is much more likely. And with Coach K's career in its twilight, you could be right about Duke, don't know enough about IU and Crean's situation but all indications are he is there for the foreseeable future.


All these games are blowouts... Oregon is impressive, tho.


http://zagsblog.com/articles/source-ucla-to-fire-howland/

Not that I like Zagoria...


I was wondering about Gottfried. His name was brought up with UCLA last year too before Bazz bought Howland one more year. That would be a horrible hire, and I kind of want him to stay at State because he can't coach a lick.

This doesn't make sense. Why Gottfried? That would be a lateral move for UCLA imo.

[Burgz V2]

rotnei clarke, i believe that's called going HAM

[IGotACoolStory]

This doesn't make sense. Why Gottfried? That would be a lateral move for UCLA imo.

Carryover from last year?

He started his coaching career as an assistant at UCLA so there's that connection. And for whatever reason he was "hot" coach before entering this season.

[ace23]

Both of my upset picks winning. (Butler and Oregon)

[Burgz V2]

Both of my upset picks winning. (Butler and Oregon)

i got them too dont jinx :lol

[Maniak]

dammit billycans

[KG215]

Devonte Gardner, who looks like an offensive tackle (6'8" 290), just pulled of a Euro Step and made the layup on a fastbreak.

[Burgz V2]

this Dunham kid is pretty good for a freshman

[ace23]

Vander Blue is the sexiest name.

[beer]

thanks for the updates guys. I do not want Gottfried. he's the only name on that list I do not want.

seriously Donavon? are we just dreaming here? we don't have a chance. florida as a state has no income tax while California has probably the highest. he'd have to live on the west side where ucla is located, which is the most expensive part of los angeles. it'd just be stupid. plus why leave florida? he's got it great there. I'm a homer here and if I was in his shoes I wouldn't even do it.

I want shaka. I went through his twitter and found like 6 wooden quotes, seems to idolize him. he's our guy!

btw tony parker will transfer, the article says we'll keep an assistant to try to keep him and adams. parker will leave regardless. he doesn't like los angeles and wants to be in the south.

[Burgz V2]

thanks for the updates guys. I do not want Gottfried. he's the only name on that list I do not want.

seriously Donavon? are we just dreaming here? we don't have a chance. florida as a state has no income tax while California has probably the highest. he'd have to live on the west side where ucla is located, which is the most expensive part of los angeles. it'd just be stupid. plus why leave florida? he's got it great there. I'm a homer here and if I was in his shoes I wouldn't even do it.

I want shaka. I went through his twitter and found like 6 wooden quotes, seems to idolize him. he's our guy!

btw tony parker will transfer, the article says we'll keep an assistant to try to keep him and adams. parker will leave regardless. he doesn't like los angeles and wants to be in the south.

Found this:


He (Shaka Smart) developed a love for quotations at Kenyon. Smart began writing down quotes into a digital document that is now over 110 pages long. He also likes nature documentaries featuring big cats.

He's an extremely smart (no pun intended) guy and is kinda similar to Wooden in that his inspiration of his players motivates them to work tirelessly. If you watch VCU it's hard to understand how they don't get tired until you realize they are going to war for their coach.

[ace23]

That was a terrific pass by Rotnei Clarke.

[Burgz V2]

wow big call there couldve had an and 1

[TheAnchorman]

This game is crazy.

[ace23]

It's not always good to foul earlier when there's a possibilty of a turnover, commentator.

[IGotACoolStory]

He's an extremely smart (no pun intended) guy and is kinda similar to Wooden in that his inspiration of his players motivates them to work tirelessly. If you watch VCU it's hard to understand how they don't get tired until you realize they are going to war for their coach.


The best coaches, imo, are the ones who are so intelligent that they would succeed in any career path. There was a good article on Grantland comparing Smart and Stevens. I believe it said Smart almost had a perfect SAT score.

Some of the truly great coaches fall under that category.

[Maniak]

what the **** was that shit

[Maniak]

holy shit on a stick what a pass

[ace23]

Lol crazy game.

[Maniak]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah yeeeesss

[IGotACoolStory]

Stevens is the boy genius and that was the play? Great game.

[Maniak]

that was a really awful last play...

[ace23]

Vander Blue hit the LeBron. :lol

[Jailblazers7]

Pretty sure Tobias Harris gets blocked on every layup.

[ace23]

Pretty sure Tobias Harris gets blocked on every layup.
Elias too

[Jailblazers7]

Oops lol similar names

[Burgz V2]

The best coaches, imo, are the ones who are so intelligent that they would succeed in any career path. There was a good article on Grantland comparing Smart and Stevens. I believe it said Smart almost had a perfect SAT score.

Some of the truly great coaches fall under that category.

yea he also graduated magna *** laude from his undergrad and did his masters on a full scholarship. He's also a big history buff and wrote his masters thesis on race issues in the US during the Great Depression. Seems pretty smart. :lol

[KG215]

Wow...Wichita State got away with a foul on one end, and a walk on the other, and it leads to a 3 to make it a 1 point game.

[Jailblazers7]

Wow...Wichita State got away with a foul on one end, and a walk on the other, and it leads to a 3 to make it a 1 point game.

Yeah, that was an awful sequence.

[Jailblazers7]

How is Harris not gonna close out on that shot?

[Burgz V2]

great finish to the Butler game, wish they could have at least gotten up a shot.

[IGotACoolStory]

Great night games. More than makes up for the boring early Saturday games.

[bigkingsfan]

Best game of the tourney.

[KG215]

Wichita State is 13/27 from three.

[Reef]

Wichita St. is hitting EVERYTHING.

[KG215]

Wichita State is having the game of their life. They're making absolutely any and everything they throw up from behind the three point line.

[Jailblazers7]

Witchita couldnt miss if they tried right now

[IGotACoolStory]

Delays take too long. Ruins momentum, gives unfair timeouts, sucks the energy from the game, etc..

[KG215]

I would say Wichita State will come back down to earth and will get beat in the next round, but they could have a less than a near superhuman like performance like the one they had tonight, and still maybe get a win over Ole Miss or LaSalle.

[ace23]

Why are these teams delaying the inevitable? Cal is going to lose this game.

[KG215]

Thought this was interesting...


ESPN Stats & Info ‏@ESPNStatsInfo
Over last 2 NCAA Tournaments, players are now 1-for-19 (5.3 percent) on potential game-tying or go-ahead shots in final 10 seconds of games
A lot of un-clutchness over the last 2 NCAA Tournaments so far.

[InspiredLebowski]

Thought this was interesting...


A lot of un-clutchness over the last 2 NCAA Tournaments so far.Vander Blue had the only make the other day

[KG215]

Ohio State looked like they were going to run away and win this one by 15+, but they keep missing FT's and Iowa State keeps making 3's.

[KG215]

16-2 run for Iowa State to take a 2 point lead.

[dannywpt]

Craft is choking in so many ways right now. :oldlol:

... aaaaaand it's gone

That was never a charge

[Tarik One]

Craft is choking in so many ways right now. :oldlol:

... aaaaaand it's gone

That was never a charge
It was a charge. His feet were outside the restricted area.

[KG215]

Aaron Craft damn near choked the game away by himself by missing so many FT's down the stretch, then he steps up and hits a huge game winning 3.

[Higher Meaning]

Craft is choking in so many ways right now. :oldlol:

... aaaaaand it's gone

That was never a charge
:hammerhead: Craft is clutch

[Maniak]

wow sick shot.

[ace23]

Craft is choking in so many ways right now. :oldlol:

... aaaaaand it's gone

That was never a charge
lol

[KG215]

:rolleyes:
When he posted that, Craft wasn't exactly not choking, although he wasn't the only Ohio State player missing FT's. Ohio State was up 69-56 with right at 6 minutes left in the game. Craft had 2 or 3 turnovers and missed 2 or 3 FT's (I think all the missed FT's were a front-end of a one-and-one) and that allowed Iowa State to take a 72-71 lead with around 3 minutes to go.

[Higher Meaning]

When he posted that, Craft wasn't exactly not choking, although he wasn't the only Ohio State player missing FT's. Ohio State was up 69-56 with right at minutes left in the game. Craft had 2 or 3 turnovers and missed 2 or 3 FT's (I think all the missed FT's were a front-end of a one-and-one) and Iowa State had a 72-71 lead with around 3 minutes to go.
yeah i know i just found it funny that as soon as i saw that comment he made the shot