Dwyane Wade is garbage.

[k0kakw0rld]

:facepalm What the hell happened?

[AirTupac]

3 for 15 happened.

[EnoughSaid]

Tony Allen, the best on-ball and perimeter defender in the NBA happened.

[AirTupac]

Ellington dropping 25 on Wade happened.

[arifgokcen]

I dont know if its the knee surgery or age but decline in wade's level of play is so severe that he cant score against quality defenders.

I hate this miami team no competitive fire they dont even care about the regular season.Even though they will probably end up in finals again,just play with some sense of urgency.

and another thing why is lebron so passive.He didnt even take 20+ shots in a game.Thats unacceptable

[arifgokcen]

Tony Allen, the best on-ball and perimeter defender in the NBA happened.
He only played 12 minutes defense on wade.So no its not about allens defense but more about wades decline

[ripthekik]

.Even though they will probably end up in finals again, with some trash eastern teams
fixed.

[EnoughSaid]

He only played 12 minutes defense on wade.So no its not about allens defense but more about wades decline

Decline? What the hell are you on? Everyone struggles and has shitty games. Let's not act like Wade didn't drop 28 in the first game.

[DaSeba5]

He struggled tonight, but he's been good this year. Players can't have a bad game?

[swi7ch]

:facepalm What the hell happened?
Washed-up.

When your style of play is throw yourself into your opponents and hope for a foul, you're in trouble later on in your career.

Next up is Westbrook. His style of play is similar to Wade's./

[EnoughSaid]

He struggled tonight, but he's been good this year. Players can't have a bad game?

+1. Wade can have a 30 point game and go 2-10 the next game, and all these Wade haters will all be like, "HE IS ON A DECLINE OMG!"

[RRR3]

I dont know if its the knee surgery or age but decline in wade's level of play is so severe that he cant score against quality defenders.

I hate this miami team no competitive fire they dont even care about the regular season.Even though they will probably end up in finals again,just play with some sense of urgency.

and another thing why is lebron so passive.He didnt even take 20+ shots in a game.Thats unacceptable
LeBron is coasting. Spo should get on him about it.



@EnoughSaid,
Wade has clearly declined. Accept it and move on.

[Heavincent]

Best SG in the league...




http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/mj-laughing.gif

[tmacattack33]

Same thing happened last year in the reg season.

Wade looked terrible. He eventually picked it up somewhat in the playoffs though.

[Mr. Jabbar]

My boy Dwade has been busy building a castle I see...:lol

[EnoughSaid]

LeBron is coasting. Spo should get on him about it.



@EnoughSaid,
Wade has clearly declined. Accept it and move on.

No he hasn't. What makes you think he's declined? His role and the amount of minutes he has to play have definitely decreased, but besides that I don't see any immediate indication of him becoming less of a player.

[DaSeba5]

He's not the same as he used to be, but the big 3 are all averaging 20+ points a game.

[RRR3]

He's not the same as he used to be, but the big 3 are all averaging 20+ points a game.
Bosh is the only playing the way he should, though. Can't wait till the Heat really start clicking and LBJ gets in gear. Still, the Heat do NOT want to face the Grizzlies in the finals, that's for sure.

[PJR]

Bookmarked for May/June.

[EnoughSaid]

Bookmarked for May/June.

Thank you. Dude always tends to go off in the Playoffs if he's healthy. :bowdown:

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Wade stans in denial. Dayum! :oldlol:

[RRR3]

...
I don't know why you can't accept he's declined dawg. Watch him play.

[DaSeba5]

Bosh is the only playing the way he should, though. Can't wait till the Heat really start clicking and LBJ gets in gear. Still, the Heat do NOT want to face the Grizzlies in the finals, that's for sure.

The Heat always start slow. The first season they went 9-8, and then last year they started off very well but then lost 3 in a row on their west coast trip and things got ugly in the media again.

If the Heat can get a winning record out of this west coast road trip, it will be a success because the east gets a lot easier.

[Legends66NBA7]

I don't know why, but I've not been that impressed with Wade so far this season.

[G-train]

Wade is fine noobs.

[AirTupac]

Wade is fine noobs.

Wade putting up prime Spanoullis numbers.

[RRR3]

Wade putting up prime Spanoullis numbers.
3rd best player in the world and as athletic as LeBron James. Jeff Van Gundy was just a hater and wouldn't let Vag-Spandex talk to his sick mom :cry:

[MichaelCheazley]

Wade is a slow starter. You guys are overreacting.

[EnoughSaid]

I don't know why you can't accept he's declined dawg. Watch him play.

I watch almost all the Miami games that I can, and I can sit here and say that Wade is still as good as he was in 2010/2011. Of course he's not like his prime self in 2009, but he is still a top 5 player and an elite one at that. If he is the primary focus of an offense, playing at around 40 minutes per game and being in total control, he would have a legit shot at MVP and everyone in this thread doubting him would be quite.

[G-train]

Wade putting up prime Spanoullis numbers.

20/5/5 on 57/83?

Who cares about a game in Memphis in November, when they were on fire and Wade shot poorly? Not I.

[ripthekik]

Wade fans:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_-JeUUn8vWK8/TVKjmsQgJ4I/AAAAAAAAAaA/8MFiFueVH8w/s400/denial22.jpg

[winwin]

yes Wade is garbage for the 4th year now

he is not a top 15 player i NBA today

on top of that he is a huge asshole

[Talent]

Same thing that happened to Shawn Kemp and every other player that relies on athleticism for most of there offensive game they hit 30 and start to be less effective.

[G-train]

yes Wade is garbage for the 4th year now

he is not a top 15 player i NBA today

on top of that he is a huge asshole

interesting definition of garbage

yes he is

you don't know him


noob

[tmacattack33]

I watch almost all the Miami games that I can, and I can sit here and say that Wade is still as good as he was in 2010/2011. Of course he's not like his prime self in 2009, but he is still a top 5 player and an elite one at that. If he is the primary focus of an offense, playing at around 40 minutes per game and being in total control, he would have a legit shot at MVP and everyone in this thread doubting him would be quite.

:roll:

[Legends66NBA7]

November 11 must hate Wade:

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore;_ylt=AgrKI2B7Dq8pwNZ26HVobtKNRgU6?gid=201 0111114

^ 2 years ago.

[PostUpBumpSpinJ]

Wade was questionable for todays game, he was sick, caught a bug off his kids.

classic ISH overreaction thread.

[Collie]

He HAS declined, that's undeniable. However, he is still a top player in the league, and should be regarded as such.

[outbreak]

This year seems to have a higher number of over reaction threads on ISH. Usually some people are at least a little bit intelligent and realise it's still early in the season and players have slumps some times. Yes Wade's declined since his prime but so has Kobe and every other star. Most teams in the league would still take him if he was a free agent tomorrow and was desperate to sign with their team. There's only really a handful of teams that wouldn't need his services and are better at the sg.

[SpecialQue]

This year seems to have a higher number of over reaction threads on ISH. Usually some people are at least a little bit intelligent and realise it's still early in the season and players have slumps some times. Yes Wade's declined since his prime but so has Kobe and every other star. Most teams in the league would still take him if he was a free agent tomorrow and was desperate to sign with their team. There's only really a handful of teams that wouldn't need his services and are better at the sg.

Are you kidding? This shit happens all the time on ISH. It's nothing new.

[Legends66NBA7]

18/4/4/1/1 on 51/25/84 now.

Outside of his efficiency in fg and ft%'s, he's averaging career lows since his rookie season.

Obviously, that won't last like that, but if he's still the Top SG in the game he's got to pick his game up in hurry.

[Droid101]

Are you kidding? This shit happens all the time on ISH. It's nothing new.
Yeah. There weren't a lot last year because of the lockout (aw, maybe he just sucks because of the lockout).

Now, there are no excuses, so the overreactions are flying again!

[AK47DR91]

Wade saving up his energy for the playoffs.

[Salazaar]

You can just shut the fvck up with that another ridiculous overreaction. Wade had one bad game and he's under the weather, still hasn't recovered from that cold that kept him sidelined the last game. Damn, some people on these forums are just.. worse than skip bayless :facepalm:

[Eric Cartman]

You can just shut the fvck up with that another ridiculous overreaction. Wade had one bad game and he's under the weather, still hasn't recovered from that cold that kept him sidelined the last game. Damn, some people on these forums are just.. worse than skip bayless :facepalm:

ISH posters have pride; not like that idiotic prick.

[Ikill]

He played good for the first 5 games his athleticism and jumpshot both looked like they returned. I didn't watch this game but its still just one game its early in the season and I think he's sick anyways. I still dont understand how one year is supposed to be enough proof to show that Wades on decline I don't care how bad he played its still only one year. He showed consistent health for 3 years showed no signs of decline before the 2012 season and was still great when he was healthy (February March Knicks Pacers series). Because of one injury riddled season in a condensed schedule im supposed to believe that Wades going into a steep decline. Yeah we'll see

[lilgodfather1]

Yup the Heat really missed their opportunity to amnesty him imo. Have to wait until next year now :rolleyes: .

Seriously he had a bad game to say the least, but it's too early to demand his head.

[Ikill]

why do people overreact when Wade plays bad and say nothing when Wade plays good just pretend it didnt happen :wtf:

[PJR]

why do people overreact when Wade plays bad and say nothing when Wade plays good just pretend it didnt happen :wtf:

Lol It's called trolling, my friend.

[Legends66NBA7]

why do people overreact when Wade plays bad and say nothing when Wade plays good just pretend it didnt happen :wtf:

1) Because bad news always sells over good news.

2) I don't think Wade's been good this season, so far. Outside of his efficiency, he is just sort of coasting and for this case, his cold didn't help, IMO.

[Ikill]

1) Because bad news always sells over good news.

2) I don't think Wade's been good this season, so far. Outside of his efficiency, he is just sort of coasting and for this case, his cold didn't help, IMO.
He hasn't been too aggressive yet but most seasons he starts like this anyways. He looks quick his jumpshot looks good his free throw shooting looks good he looks more comfortable. He's shown pretty good signs so far the first 5 games and preseason. The biggest questions for Wade this year are his health and jumpshot

[Rockets(T-mac)]

why do people overreact when Wade plays bad and say nothing when Wade plays good just pretend it didnt happen :wtf:Haha welcome to the internet.

[HEAT111]

He has the flu...what do you guys expect...:lol

[TylerOO]

I wish the Heat would trade him for a legit center and pieces. He holds LeBron back and its obvious he aint getting any better.

[Vertical-24]

Lol It's called trolling, my friend.

And there goes the story of Kobe Bean Bryant..

[Batz]

He got the flu virus from his kids...

[longtime lurker]

Best SG in the league :rockon:

[arifgokcen]

+1. Wade can have a 30 point game and go 2-10 the next game, and all these Wade haters will all be like, "HE IS ON A DECLINE OMG!"
Dude i am not a wade hater.I love his style of play.However you have to accept it he looks slower even when he scored 28,it wasnt an efficient 28.He used to do it much better.

Anyway its not just one game.Its been apparent since his knee injury.I hope i am wrong he can bounce back.


LeBron is coasting. Spo should get on him about it.



@EnoughSaid,
Wade has clearly declined. Accept it and move on.

Thats what i am saying he didnt even score over 26.Thats a shame he looks content with the ring he has.That doesnt inspire much confidence.This was the second time they just let go.Wade didnt even close out.Lebron didnt go the hole.Bosh was assertive but he is not gonna be enough.

[spiegel]

Safe to say kobe is the undispued number 1 SG and harden is secod.

[Micku]

Overreaction. Wade's fine. He was averaging 20.4 ppg on 57% shooting before tonight, and he had a bad game. Meh. He had worst games than tonight.

Once he had 3 points on 1 of 13 shooting against the Pacers in the regular season.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201011220MIA.html


One thing is for certain though. Before big three era, Wade used to be better.

[RRR3]

Overreaction. Wade's fine. He was averaging 20.4 ppg on 57% shooting before tonight, and he had a bad game. Meh. He had worst games than tonight.

Once he had 3 points on 1 of 13 shooting against the Pacers in the regular season.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201011220MIA.html


One thing is for certain though. Before big three era, Wade used to be better.
Wade was still himself in the first year of the big 3 era. Last year is when the decline started.

[Micku]

Wade was still himself in the first year of the big 3 era. Last year is when the decline started.

Yeah, you're right. Wade was still Wade like in the first year. But, the LeBron and Wade playing together affect Wade more than LeBron still. Last year he was injured, but still good and deferred more to LBJ.

This year barely started, so we'll see how he does.

[NumberSix]

Safe to say kobe is the undispued number 1 SG and harden is secod.
TLDR. Tough Luck, Dick Rider

[SpaceJammeR]

wade takes a lot of real bad shots. and he seems to "try" to draw fouls more than trying to make the shots. but he always seem to prove me wrong when i doubt him so ill just shut up. lol

[chazzy]

Same thing happened last year in the reg season.

Wade looked terrible. He eventually picked it up somewhat in the playoffs though.
He was worse in the playoffs

[KOBE143]

The reason they acquired Ray Allen is they know already Wade is declining fast and sooner will be washed-up.. Pat Riley is really a great GM.. Props to him for having a solution before it becomes a big problem for them..

[Droid101]

Overreaction. Wade's fine. He was averaging 20.4 ppg on 57% shooting before tonight, and he had a bad game. Meh. He had worst games than tonight.

Once he had 3 points on 1 of 13 shooting against the Pacers in the regular season.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201011220MIA.html


One thing is for certain though. Before big three era, Wade used to be better.
No, actually, tonight was Wade's worst shooting night ever (of nights he shot 15+ shots).

[MiseryCityTexas]

wade is old and injured. that's what happened.

[Rysio]

he's not a legend thats what happened. but if you try to compare him to a legend like best sg in the league(lots of delusional wade stans do) then he is garbage. but as long as you dont he is just declined alot, just like all nba players do when they hit there 30s. unless they are legends but there's very small list of those.

[MavsPoke]

His entire career is built on driving into other players and hoping for a whistle.

[plowking]

When I clicked the box score I thought I was looking at one of Kobe's old finals statlines. Weird to see Wade with those numbers next to him.

[zizozain]

^^ it takes an asshole to defend an asshole

[plowking]

^^ it takes an asshole to defend an asshole

Who are you?

[PJR]

When I clicked the box score I thought I was looking at one of Kobe's old finals statlines. Weird to see Wade with those numbers next to him.

Very true.

[LamarOdom]

lol 3-15 Kobe could get that in his sleep, why is everyone worried.

[All Net]

Wade has never looked great early on in the season.

[Eat Like A Bosh]

Just accept that fact that Wade has declined, and move on. He is definitely not the same player from 2009-2011. Just watch the games, Wade doesn't get to the rack at will, and doesn't score as easily as before. Safe to say, so far, Kobe has been the better player this season. In fact, considering their age and milage(Wade 9th season, Kobe 17th season), Wade's decline has definitely been worse than Kobe's.

Disagree, Wade is definitely not garbage, even if he's not the 09 or 10 Wade, he's still a legit player capable of putting up numbers, when healthy. With LeBron around, he's not gonna have to do much, but he's definitely a late first round or early second round pick in fantasy.

[senelcoolidge]

I was a Wade fan pre-Big 3. Not so much any more. But I will say that people around here have some serious ADD. They base things off 1 game...off 6 games. Come on people. I'll say also that Wade is on the decline, but this does not mean that he's garbage. He's still one of the top shooting guards in the league.

[Money 23]

6 games deep, he has one bad game ... and you're tripping :rolleyes:

He's averaging 18 ppg on 50% FG (32 MPG) 4 apg and 4 rpg

Every game has been a blow out, that they've won practically. What's the problem?

For comparison LeBron James is averaging 22 ppg on 55% FG (34 MPG) 6 apg and 10 rpg

They have barely had to play deep into games, either of them ... and given all the talent they have, neither has had to go all out.

Plus, Wade's game as I've been saying ... he can't go all out at the same time on the floor as LeBron, they're the same type of player. That's why Ray Allen fits in better with the LeBron unit, and why Ray-Ray has had such success.

[winwin]

the aussie ****** is rolling in his grave


:lol

[NewYorkNoPicks]

6 points tonight for DaJaw Wade

[Screamingdoom]

Lebron's got no help

[ripthekik]

Lebron's got no help
time for him to jump ship to LA

[Doranku]

When I clicked the box score I thought I was looking at one of Kobe's old finals statlines. Weird to see Wade with those numbers next to him.

Yeah, I almost had a heart attack when I saw he only had two free throw attempts. These anti-flopping rules are really putting a damper on Wade's dependency for phantom foul calls.

[pauk]

I love Wade, with that being said, if he's not 100% he needs to sit on the bench and recover completely for when it matters.... he's hurting Miami out on the court not producing and also bottlenecking an oppurtunity for another player to maybe produce more (Ray Allen)....

[Wang Zhi Zhi]

the aussie ****** is rolling in his grave


:lol

rip zyzz

[Heavincent]

2-10 last night :lol

[Vertical-24]

2-10 last night :lol

Tony Allen bro. Dude is haunting D. Wade man, best on ball and perimeter defender in the league man. Thought that was obvious man.

[Dave3]

Tony Allen bro. Dude is haunting D. Wade man, best on ball and perimeter defender in the league man. Thought that was obvious man.
2-10 was on Clippers. Tony Allen was the 3-15.

[Vertical-24]

2-10 was on Clippers. Tony Allen was the 3-15.
Lol I know, I was being sarcastic and mocking the Ton Allen excuse ES posted

[Dave3]

Lol I know, I was being sarcastic and mocking the Ton Allen excuse ES posted
In all fairness Allen does make things considerably harder. Wade was questionable for yesterday with foot problems. I'm not exactly a fan of Wade as much as before as I hate the whole strategy of playing for the foul, but I'm not sure if this is a skill/ability decline or just his usual injury plagued self.

[Rysio]

wade is preparing his retirement speech for after this season so i can see how such distraction can lead to poor performances.

[STATUTORY]

In all fairness Allen does make things considerably harder. Wade was questionable for yesterday with foot problems. I'm not exactly a fan of Wade as much as before as I hate the whole strategy of playing for the foul, but I'm not sure if this is a skill/ability decline or just his usual injury plagued self.

injury is part of the decline process. wade is never health, guy's a short tmac right now

[2010splash]

Yeah he may be hurt, so what? Kobe's played through several injuries the past few seasons and has never been anywhere near this bad. And being hurt all the time like Wade is something to hold against him. It is part of the aging and declining process.

Just accept Wade for what he is - no longer the alpha male tier 1 superstar who can lead a team but rather a good supporting player on a very steep decline.

Kobe's way better than Wade despite having much more mileage/wear and tear and being 4 years older. Obviously this is due to his vastly superior skillset.

James Harden is currently the #2 SG in the league. Wade is a Brandon Roy level player now - all star caliber player and a good #2 guy, but not the utter beast on the level of a LeBron/Kobe/Durant.

[Grey Dawn]

At this point one of the top overrated players in the game.

[BlueandGold]

It's a 7 game sample size.. that's what happened.. even the greatest players get off to bad starts.. we'll see what happens come playoff time (which is what i think dwayne is trying to do... save himself for the postseason)

The heat are winning.. both wade and lebron are taking less shots while Bosh and Allen are taking more.. come playoff time if all 4 of those players are rolling they will be nearly impossible to stop.

[guy]

Its going to be funny at the beginning of next year when people say "WADE IS FINALLY HEALTHY AGAIN THIS YEAR".

[jjayfive]

wade relied heavily on athleticism. Unfortunately, this style will result in rapid decline or injury.

[aj1987]

How many Kobe stans are now calling him a top 5 player to put down Lebron? LOL!

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

How many Kobe stans are now calling him a top 5 player to put down Lebron? LOL!

Maybe its not just "Kobe stans" who think he is one of the very best in the world:
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9140863/nba-player-rankings-no-6-dwyane-wade

[Keiigo-]

Dem Necros.

[Mass Debator]

Better than at least 98% of players in the league. Fact.

[Big Cheese]

The last time d-wade was a top 5 player was in the 2010-2011 season.

right now he is probably around 7 or 8.

[aj1987]

Maybe its not just "Kobe stans" who think he is one of the very best in the world:
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9140863/nba-player-rankings-no-6-dwyane-wade
Go through the posts in this thread. ESPN has always had him in the top 8.


The last time d-wade was a top 5 player was in the 2010-2011 season.

right now he is probably around 7 or 8.
1. Lebron
2. Durant
3. Kobe
4. Carmelo
5. Wade

[NumberSix]

Still a top 5 player

[Clifton]

Wade ain't a top 5 player... at least not definitively. Durant is a top five player; I could see Wade being listed 5th or even 4th on a top players list, but the league is weak on elite players these days, and from one day to the next, I could see him as low as 8th or so.

He's in the 5-8 range to me. The best players are Lebron, Durant, and Paul, and after that it gets really complicated.

At the very least you have to reckon Kobe and Melo.

Then there's Dwight who for all his faults still gives you a defensive anchor and elite rebounding.

You also have Westbrook who is an elite player and is so different from Wade that it's tough to compare them; and right along with Westbrook is Derrick Rose, who although hurt, has not ceased to exist. The last time he was healthy, I considered him the 5th best player (this was back when Dwight fooled me into putting him 3rd/4th).

I could see a strong argument for Wade only being on the outer fringe of the top ten.

[Legends66NBA7]

1. Lebron
2. Durant
3. Kobe
4. Carmelo
5. Wade

I would put Paul over Kobe, Wade, and Melo.