View Full Version : F Royce White, Rockets at odds with agreement to help with anxiety over flying
blacknapalm
11-13-2012, 11:40 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/wizards/f-royce-white-rockets-at-odds-with-agreement-to-help-with-anxiety-over-flying/2012/11/13/cfc2fdfa-2e08-11e2-b631-2aad9d9c73ac_story.html
[QUOTE]HOUSTON
As someone who has OCD too, I know how hard it is to face your fears. I hope has someone he can talk to.
HardwoodLegend
11-13-2012, 11:52 PM
As someone who has OCD too, I know how hard it is to face your fears. I hope has someone he can talk to.
What T-Mac memorabilia (jerseys, posters, bobbleheads, etc.) do you own/have you ever owned?
What T-Mac memorabilia (jerseys, posters, bobbleheads, etc.) do you own/have you ever owned?
Holy random batman! Three jerseys, a few basketball cards.
millwad
11-13-2012, 11:53 PM
As someone who has OCD too, I know how hard it is to face your fears. I hope has someone he can talk to.
Wow, that makes all the bullying you have to stand while posting on ISH even more horrible..
He's basically found someone to blame rather than face his fears, the rockets. He's going to turn out to be a terrible pick. I get he has problems to work on. He should. I don't get the feeling he is though.
HardwoodLegend
11-13-2012, 11:57 PM
Holy random batman! Three jerseys, a few basketball cards.
LOL I like being random and out-of-the-blue.
I used to have two jerseys.
http://www.wonderful-again.com/shopimg/201003/1268245312.jpg
http://www.cheapnbajerseysoutlet.com/images/jerseys/houston-rockets-jerseys/tracy-mcgrady-nba-jerseys-houston-rockets-embroidered-1-throwback-swingman-road-red-m-amp;-n.jpg
Which three did you have?
millwad
11-13-2012, 11:59 PM
He's basically found someone to blame rather than face his fears, the rockets. He's going to turn out to be a terrible pick. I get he has problems to work on. He should. I don't get the feeling he is though.
Yeah, he's not exactly making it better for himself a la posting silly stuff on twitter and doing stuff like this;
http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=229234
Yeah, he's not exactly making it better for himself a la posting silly stuff on twitter and doing stuff like this;
http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=229234
To me if he said "im taking this year off to get over what i need to do" i would get that. But the first thing he said was "im going to bus all the time when i need to". That's no solution, that's avoidance. It's like a drug addict, they find people to blame they can't get treatment because they don't want to get better. Im sure he wants to get better, but it would be hard and he is (not conciously) avoiding it. By fighting with the Rockets.
Total waste of a pick.
poido123
11-14-2012, 12:19 AM
To me if he said "im taking this year off to get over what i need to do" i would get that. But the first thing he said was "im going to bus all the time when i need to". That's no solution, that's avoidance. It's like a drug addict, they find people to blame they can't get treatment because they don't want to get better. Im sure he wants to get better, but it would be hard and he is (not conciously) avoiding it. By fighting with the Rockets.
Total waste of a pick.
I agree he is avoiding facing his fears etc, but if the Rockets play their cards right and give him what he needs to get his confidence up etc, they will reap the rewards. He is still very young and won't be a waste of a pick if they do what they can to accomodate him.
Just a question, has life traveled pretty smoothly for you? Do you or have you had any disorders of your own...its not a loaded question
blacknapalm
11-14-2012, 12:23 AM
To me if he said "im taking this year off to get over what i need to do" i would get that. But the first thing he said was "im going to bus all the time when i need to". That's no solution, that's avoidance. It's like a drug addict, they find people to blame they can't get treatment because they don't want to get better. Im sure he wants to get better, but it would be hard and he is (not conciously) avoiding it. By fighting with the Rockets.
Total waste of a pick.
i sort of remember you saying this in the last royce thread and i mostly disagreed. thought they needed to take baby steps before throwing him in on the 'deep end'.
to me, that isn't the issue now though. if he has truly missed multiple practices, that's a more concerning issue...maybe maturity issues to boot. for a guy who handled so many college games, i don't understand why he would miss practices. airing out his grievances publicly is not a good sign either.
just hope he's genuinely doing what it takes to get better...really liked his game out of college.
irondarts
11-14-2012, 12:34 AM
While I feel for his disorder, he is going to be out of the league soon if this continues, and maybe that's the best thing for him, maybe he just doesn't belong in the NBA with his disorder.
I wish him the best of luck, but to me it seems like the Rockets are already tired of this.
Phantom_Blue
11-14-2012, 12:36 AM
if he has truly missed multiple practices, that's a more concerning issue...maybe maturity issues to boot. for a guy who handled so many college games, i don't understand why he would miss practices. airing out his grievances publicly is not a good sign either.
More than likely it's still the case of his anxiety, the avoidance and irrational decision making. Alot of people understand what it is on the surface, but they don't realize how bad it can really get, can easily lead to other diseases such as depression, which I hope is not what he's going through right now.
Alot of people suffer from this disease, but alot of people also take meds to deal with it, which I believe Royce is against, increasing the difficulty in dealing with this daily. Compound that with the stresses of the NBA life and the natural unsympathetic nature of his peers and you wonder if he's going to make it through the season.
Rekindled
11-14-2012, 12:37 AM
he needs to go play in a small country where you dont have to fly to travel.
maybe go play in greece
CLTHornets4eva
11-14-2012, 12:39 AM
Total waste of a pick.
:coleman:
He was the 16th pick a ton of talent still and we are 2 weeks into the season. Your overreacting.
NumberSix
11-14-2012, 12:40 AM
http://www.wonderful-again.com/shopimg/201003/1268245312.jpg
Blasphemy. Orlando shoulda been had that #1 retired.
Qwyjibo
11-14-2012, 12:41 AM
:coleman:
He was the 16th pick a ton of talent still and we are 2 weeks into the season. Your overreacting.
He has a mental/health issue that will prevent him from doing his job. It looks like a big waste of a pick since none of this was exactly a secret to Houston.
Rubio2Gasol
11-14-2012, 12:43 AM
Just looking at how talented he is when he plays the game, this definitely isn't a waste of a pick.
Roll the dice on a 16th pick? You have a 18th pick anyway so whatever....it's very likely they didn't really want anyone else available at that point.
HardwoodLegend
11-14-2012, 12:46 AM
Blasphemy. Orlando shoulda been had that #1 retired.
Perhaps so.
I love both players, but T-Mac swagged it out even further.
That #1 on the Orlando pinstripe may be the most pimpinest jersey ever.
I<3NBA
11-14-2012, 12:47 AM
if they're just going to send him to D-League, why not just leave him in Houston during away games and just play him during home games? at least he gets to play 50% of the time as opposed to 0%
CLTHornets4eva
11-14-2012, 01:11 AM
He has a mental/health issue that will prevent him from doing his job. It looks like a big waste of a pick since none of this was exactly a secret to Houston.
Exactly. A mental health issue that is known certainly isn't a waste. If it wasn't known it would be more of a waste. 16th picks are rarely more than role players anyway. If White can get help he can be much more than just a role player.
ScalabrineStan
11-14-2012, 01:37 AM
Am I the only person who thinks this is stupid?
If you can play in front of 30,000 people and get dunked on/blocked which is way "scarier" flying first class drunk on a plane should be literally nothing.
In everything, there is sacrifice. If you want to play in the league, shut the **** up and get on the plane.
miles berg
11-14-2012, 01:37 AM
Why would Orlando retire Penny's jersey?
Boomerang
11-14-2012, 01:41 AM
Am I the only person who thinks this is stupid?
If you can play in front of 30,000 people and get dunked on/blocked which is way "scarier" flying first class drunk on a plane should be literally nothing.
In everything, there is sacrifice. If you want to play in the league, shut the **** up and get on the plane.
You don't know anything about him or how it feels though..
Just like people have phobias. they arent scared of other things... but they just cant get over their phobia.
shoops
11-14-2012, 01:42 AM
At this point the issue isn't really about his anxiety, it's about his lack of professionalism. Dude is on a twitter rampage now.
Whoah10115
11-14-2012, 02:41 AM
He is coming off very badly...and it's not because of Houston; it's my take.
Which is not to say he shouldn't get help from the organization or isn't trying.
InspiredLebowski
11-14-2012, 02:51 AM
Royce White needs to find a new line of work. I don't care how callous it sounds. There's a difference between having an anxiety disorder and just being a narcissist.
Remix
11-14-2012, 02:51 AM
he needs to go play in a small country where you dont have to fly to travel.
maybe go play in greece
how would he get there
Pushxx
11-14-2012, 03:02 AM
While I respect his difficulties, it's just not smart to deal with this from a management perspective.
He's just not cut out for the NBA life, despite his superb basketball skills.
C-Webb4
11-14-2012, 03:03 AM
I've said this before but as an anxiety disorder sufferer I know what he's going through from that standpoint. I've routed for him but also kind of thought that the odds are definitely very much against him and as such i'd be surprised for him to make it in the long term. I think at the end of the day it's not the Rockets fault, he just bit off more than he could chew and it's overwhelming for him. At the end of the day, yes we all want and desire equal opportunities but it's in the job description. If I can't walk, I would complain about my employer if I apply for a job as a professional runner. I'm sorry but i'm losing my sympathy for him a little bit. I do hope he gets better but somethings gotta give.
ZenMaster
11-14-2012, 03:08 AM
if they're just going to send him to D-League, why not just leave him in Houston during away games and just play him during home games? at least he gets to play 50% of the time as opposed to 0%
What a great message to send to the rest of the team who's available for every game.. "Hey guys, Royce only has to play half of your games, he'll make 2 dollars when you're making 1.... Have a great 7 game road trip!"
Oh and there's nothing to suggest he would be playing even though he was on the roster as he hasn't really so far.
bokes15
11-14-2012, 03:33 AM
I think it's obvious why Royce White wants to stay in the league. It's tough but it's a lot of money. He knows that it's his meal ticket if he can even just stay on an NBA roster. That being said, I think he needs to strongly consider his career choices. Money isn't everything, his mental health should be a top priority. As such, he shouldn't hold the franchise hostage. He should take some time to see if he can get to a point where he can handle that schedule and if he can't, well it's tough but he needs to walk away.
shoops
11-14-2012, 03:38 AM
I think it's obvious why Royce White wants to stay in the league. It's tough but it's a lot of money. He knows that it's his meal ticket if he can even just stay on an NBA roster.
Actually it seems like he doesn't care enough (obviously he should), or he makes it seem that way. He hasn't made many efforts to work on his game, hasn't seemed to reach out to his teammates, hell on his twitter he describes himself as "Humanitarian, Writer, Entrepreneur, Director and Imaginer. " No NBA player description...? Dunno...
bokes15
11-14-2012, 03:41 AM
Actually it seems like he doesn't care enough (obviously he should), or he makes it seem that way. He hasn't made many efforts to work on his game, hasn't seemed to reach out to his teammates, hell on his twitter he describes himself as "Humanitarian, Writer, Entrepreneur, Director and Imaginer. " No NBA player description...? Dunno...
Yeah that's true, didn't think of that. If I wanted to keep from getting fired from my job the very least i'd do is make an effort on my end to show them that i'm trying to meet them half way as much as possible.
Dbrog
11-14-2012, 03:42 AM
Wtf...this isn't OCD unless it's talking about two separate disorders. The fear of flying is a phobia or at the very most Generalized Anxiety Disorder. However, it got me thinking...it would be crazy is someone who actually had OCD and had thoughts that led to compulsive three point shooting and couldn't stop until they had the "perfect" release. Hahaha...they would shoot the highest percentage ever...then again, they would be useless at everything else.
Back on Royce...either way, there is some highly effective therapy for all types of anxiety disorders as well as some mood stabilizers he could take. This is an instance of him either not trusting therapy, or simply not caring enough to try.
InspiredLebowski
11-14-2012, 03:44 AM
hell on his twitter he describes himself as "Humanitarian, Writer, Entrepreneur, Director and Imaginer. " No NBA player description...? Dunno...this is what scared me off during the draft way more than the anxiety stuff. look up the way he left Minnesota, dude made an art film out of it. look up the stuff about how he's more interested in being a music producer.
he plays basketball because he's good at it, not because he likes it. that's the biggest red flag there is.
bokes15
11-14-2012, 03:46 AM
Wtf...this isn't OCD unless it's talking about two separate disorders. The fear of flying is a phobia or at the very most Generalized Anxiety Disorder. However, it got me thinking...it would be crazy is someone who actually had OCD and had thoughts that led to compulsive three point shooting and couldn't stop until they had the "perfect" release. Hahaha...they would shoot the highest percentage ever...then again, they would be useless at everything else.
It's funny how they use all of those terms interchangably. :oldlol: But "general anxiety disorder" was his diagnosis. Now OCD, PTSD, SAD, etc... are all branches off that same tree. According to him he has General Anxiety disorder along with Social Anxiety and "a little bit" of OCD type of symptoms. So for him it's more than just a flying phobia I think.
Dbrog
11-14-2012, 03:50 AM
It's funny how they use all of those terms interchangably. :oldlol: But "general anxiety disorder" was his diagnosis. Now OCD, PTSD, SAD, etc... are all branches off that same tree. According to him he has General Anxiety disorder along with Social Anxiety and "a little bit" of OCD type of symptoms. So for him it's more than just a flying phobia I think.
Good to know. I feel bad for him since GAD is probably the hardest of all of them to "fix," but still...if he's compliant with his meds and does some type of outpatient therapy, he should be able to get this to a manageable level relatively quickly (meaning it could still take a year..at most 2 :( ).
shoops
11-14-2012, 03:52 AM
this is what scared me off during the draft way more than the anxiety stuff. look up the way he left Minnesota, dude made an art film out of it. look up the stuff about how he's more interested in being a music producer.
he plays basketball because he's good at it, not because he likes it. that's the biggest red flag there is.
I agree. Yeah, I only saw those things after he was drafted, pretty big red flags I guess. Of course it was kinda downplayed before draft day, but right now it seems like the whole situation won't end well, a lose lose situation...
bokes15
11-14-2012, 03:54 AM
Good to know. I feel bad for him since GAD is probably the hardest of all of them to "fix," but still...if he's compliant with his meds and does some type of outpatient therapy, he should be able to get this to a manageable level relatively quickly (meaning it could still take a year..at most 2 :( ).
Yes it is. For someone with just a phobia, they know exactly what their triggers are and can just work on gradual exposure (or flooding in some cases) until they lose that fear completely. But for someone with GAD, there's a lot of triggers and overall more time and care is required in getting their overly sensitized nervous system down to it's normal functioning levels.
flipogb
11-14-2012, 03:57 AM
every team should have passed on this guy
Brokenbeat
11-14-2012, 04:05 AM
Wtf...this isn't OCD unless it's talking about two separate disorders. The fear of flying is a phobia or at the very most Generalized Anxiety Disorder. However, it got me thinking...it would be crazy is someone who actually had OCD and had thoughts that led to compulsive three point shooting and couldn't stop until they had the "perfect" release. Hahaha...they would shoot the highest percentage ever...then again, they would be useless at everything else.
Back on Royce...either way, there is some highly effective therapy for all types of anxiety disorders as well as some mood stabilizers he could take. This is an instance of him either not trusting therapy, or simply not caring enough to try.
Could call him...
*puts on sunglasses
Rain man
senelcoolidge
11-14-2012, 06:16 AM
This guy better overcome his anxiety fast if he wants an NBA career. He's throwing something very big away. The Rockets drafted him, but they can continue without him. There are always replacements out there.
shoops
11-14-2012, 06:27 AM
This guy better overcome his anxiety fast if he wants an NBA career. He's throwing something very big away. The Rockets drafted him, but they can continue without him. There are always replacements out there.
I think it's more than just his anxiety causing the problem. Possibly personality, immaturity, or other psychological issues, as his past seems to suggest. He seems to be burning the bridges faster than they can be built, his PR is just terrible with all those twitter wars, hasn't done a good job in showing he's serious about staying, hasn't had enough consideration for others/teammates. He is throwing a huge lifetime opportunity away.
code green
11-14-2012, 07:58 AM
Wtf...this isn't OCD unless it's talking about two separate disorders. The fear of flying is a phobia or at the very most Generalized Anxiety Disorder. However, it got me thinking...it would be crazy is someone who actually had OCD and had thoughts that led to compulsive three point shooting and couldn't stop until they had the "perfect" release. Hahaha...they would shoot the highest percentage ever...then again, they would be useless at everything else.
Back on Royce...either way, there is some highly effective therapy for all types of anxiety disorders as well as some mood stabilizers he could take. This is an instance of him either not trusting therapy, or simply not caring enough to try.
You just described Judas Shuttlesworth
miggyme1
11-14-2012, 09:23 AM
Cant help but to feel sorry for the guy but at the same time idk y this guy was drafted so high.cmon
Think about it for a min
A guy with mental health issues in front of all the world to see?lol
Media,endorsements,fans,groupies,etc that he got to deal with on a daily basis and you waste a solid pick on him?
Look the guy can ball but wats the point if he cant get to the game?
Idk if this is legal or bad but here is my idea of wat royce can do to overcome his fear of flying.
Take some sleeping pills right before you board your flight.boom u good to go.i wish i could talk to royce id tell him look man u know its more likely for u to die in a car crash than in a plane crash? And its true.
This guy has to get on the court he can make the rockets so much better.gives their bench more depth and size.their frontcourt would br summin like utah jazz frountcourt with millsap,jefferson,kanter and favors.
Oh well hope the rockets know they gone eventually have to part ways with either lin,harden or asik down the road.if i was them id be looking for a lin replacement in the next couple drafts cuz the boy is absurdly overpaid.
Shepseskaf
11-14-2012, 09:25 AM
I feel sorry for the player, and the team. But, when everything is said and done, this looks like a wasted pick.
bokes15
11-14-2012, 01:54 PM
You just described Judas Shuttlesworth
:oldlol: I was about to mention the same thing.
ripthekik
11-14-2012, 01:58 PM
I think the onus to make this right is on the Rockets. He's been public about his anxiety from day 1, he hasn't been hiding or misrepresenting to them. By selecting him I would assume they made preparations and were confident they could make him NBA ready? Royce has to make an effort as well, but it's the Rockets who have to try their best to help him. I mean, they basically took on the responsibility.
I think the onus to make this right is on the Rockets. He's been public about his anxiety from day 1, he hasn't been hiding or misrepresenting to them. By selecting him I would assume they made preparations and were confident they could make him NBA ready? Royce has to make an effort as well, but it's the Rockets who have to try their best to help him. I mean, they basically took on the responsibility.
He.s not going to the therapy sessions they set up. That;s on him.
bagelred
11-14-2012, 02:05 PM
I said this in one of the other dozen Royce White threads, but he shouldn't have been picked by the Rockets. He should have requested an Atlantic Division team.
Less long distance plane rides. Only one West Coast trip a season. More opponents you can drive to. If he's on the Nets, he can drive to Knicks, 76ers, Wizards, and Celtics games easily. Plus short flights to Midwest.
You reaslitically can't drive anywhere from Houston...only SA and Dallas....still far.
Perfect trade. Royce White for James White......see? A White for a White? Done....and done. :bowdown:
I said this in one of the other dozen Royce White threads, but he shouldn't have been picked by the Rockets. He should have requested an Atlantic Division team.
Less long distance plane rides. Only one West Coast trip a season. More opponents you can drive to. If he's on the Nets, he can drive to Knicks, 76ers, Wizards, and Celtics games easily. Plus short flights to Midwest.
You reaslitically can't drive anywhere from Houston....still far.
Perfect trade. Royce White for James White......see? A White for a White? Done....and done. :bowdown:
Would that steal of a trade be white on white crime?
ripthekik
11-14-2012, 02:06 PM
He.s not going to the therapy sessions they set up. That;s on him.
I have no idea what's going on between them. If he's refusing to cooperate, could be on him.
[QUOTE]says the club has been
I have no idea what's going on between them. If he's refusing to cooperate, could be on him.
This is what he's saying though.
and I think this line in the article sums it up pretty well
Maybe it just happened to be a bad risk afterall?
It's reported they are fining him for missing sessions. He's not going to the sessions.
Kid sounds terribly immature. Having emotional issues is not a get out of jail free card. It doesn't mean you get to do whatever you want.
Whoah10115
11-14-2012, 02:16 PM
White for Amare...
Seriously, I imagine his issues with spark up playing in NY. So I'd say it's the same as him playing in Brooklyn.
Houston was interested in signing Nene before, right? Would they do a White for Nene deal? Wouldn't Washington?
The Bobcats? That could be the steal of a lifetime. This guy has legit star ability. Charlotte is ass. The anxiety that comes from losing so much would force to go go into beast mode lol.
Lastly, who is James White?
SilkkTheShocker
11-14-2012, 02:16 PM
Royce is obviously a total p.ussy.
bagelred
11-14-2012, 02:17 PM
Would that steal of a trade be white on white crime?
Nice. :cheers:
Anywho, this is what I'm talking about. Being in the East would help him.
http://i46.tinypic.com/63snpg.jpg
jamal99
11-14-2012, 02:19 PM
Wtf...this isn't OCD unless it's talking about two separate disorders. The fear of flying is a phobia or at the very most Generalized Anxiety Disorder. However, it got me thinking...it would be crazy is someone who actually had OCD and had thoughts that led to compulsive three point shooting and couldn't stop until they had the "perfect" release. Hahaha...they would shoot the highest percentage ever...then again, they would be useless at everything else.
Back on Royce...either way, there is some highly effective therapy for all types of anxiety disorders as well as some mood stabilizers he could take. This is an instance of him either not trusting therapy, or simply not caring enough to try.
Ray Allen has OCD. Seriously.
iamgine
11-14-2012, 02:34 PM
If he's someone who can help teams win, he can just sign up on terms that he will only play home games and receive lower salary. It's unorthodox but would be a win-win solution.
Whoah10115
11-14-2012, 02:42 PM
Toronto and Cleveland also...they'd be smart to look into him.
chocolatethunder
11-14-2012, 02:59 PM
I think the onus to make this right is on the Rockets. He's been public about his anxiety from day 1, he hasn't been hiding or misrepresenting to them. By selecting him I would assume they made preparations and were confident they could make him NBA ready? Royce has to make an effort as well, but it's the Rockets who have to try their best to help him. I mean, they basically took on the responsibility.
It seems like they are taking on the responsibility and he's not living up to his end of the bargain. His Twitter rants make him seem like an immature ingrate. They can't hold his hand every step of the way. I don't get it, players are always screaming about being "grown men" but often times act like petulant children. You can lead a horse to water but it doesn't seem like this horse is drinking.
brantonli
11-14-2012, 03:04 PM
According to rotoworld:
The Rockets are reportedly fining Royce White every day he misses practice or therapy sessions with a person chosen by the team.This situation has turned ugly fast. According to the report, White grew upset with a lack of playing time last week and met extensively with GM Daryl Morey and two assistant coaches. Morey reportedly told White other players had earned the time, while White reportedly believes the Rockets are holding his anxiety order against him. With both sides so at odds, it doesn't appear this will end quickly or well. Nov 14 - 11:18 AM
You have to be kidding me right? Lack of playing time, he's a frickin rookie, I don't think any of the rookies have played at all. No wonder they are sending him down to teh D-league.
bagelred
11-14-2012, 03:07 PM
Having to deal with Royce White, Daryl Morey has now developed an anxiety disorder.
shoops
11-14-2012, 03:34 PM
According to rotoworld:
You have to be kidding me right? Lack of playing time, he's a frickin rookie, I don't think any of the rookies have played at all. No wonder they are sending him down to teh D-league.
Wow. That's silly. The rookies have hardly got playing time in the first place, that's what it's like as a rookie, his expectations are ridiculous. Play time will come but in the meantime he's getting paid for sitting on a bench and watching games, he's being very unreasonable.
irondarts
11-14-2012, 03:40 PM
Sounds like he's pissed he's not playing and is using his Anxiety Disorder as a way to turn this against the Rockets.
Pretty sad stuff.
Jasper
11-14-2012, 03:57 PM
royce has a career - Europe ball
royce has a career - Europe ball
He's afraid to fly. :lol
2LeTTeRS
11-14-2012, 04:21 PM
I think the onus to make this right is on the Rockets. He's been public about his anxiety from day 1, he hasn't been hiding or misrepresenting to them. By selecting him I would assume they made preparations and were confident they could make him NBA ready? Royce has to make an effort as well, but it's the Rockets who have to try their best to help him. I mean, they basically took on the responsibility.
I think you're overreacting to the info that was out there pre-draft. Many people have mental or anxiety issues and are still able to function in their chosen careers. Just knowing that a person has a mental issue should not disqualify them from a job.
To me the biggest issue is that Royce is missing time at work without any valid excuse and throwing temper tantrums when he does not get his way.
fatboy11
11-14-2012, 04:37 PM
Terrence Jones and Motiejunas has played in 1 game each. Limited minutes. The rookies just aren't getting playing time.
The_Yearning
11-14-2012, 04:43 PM
Nice. :cheers:
Anywho, this is what I'm talking about. Being in the East would help him.
http://i46.tinypic.com/63snpg.jpg
Look how dominating the West is... they travel way more and bitch way less than the East, yet, they have been the best conference since Jordan left.
Clifton
11-14-2012, 04:51 PM
Why can't they just drug him?
I'm being serious.
People get knocked out to get teeth pulled these days... which isn't even close to necessary. Having teeth pulled with novacaine <<<<<< having an anxiety disorder triggered, from what I have heard. Hell, having teeth pulled without novacaine < that.
I guess it would affect his performance. You don't just snap awake. Just a thought.
shoops
11-14-2012, 04:58 PM
Why can't they just drug him?
I'm being serious.
People get knocked out to get teeth pulled these days... which isn't even close to necessary. Having teeth pulled with novacaine <<<<<< having an anxiety disorder triggered, from what I have heard. Hell, having teeth pulled without novacaine < that.
I guess it would affect his performance. You don't just snap awake. Just a thought.
I think it messes up the body's biological clock, not sure about the details, but yeah he would wake up drowsy.
Being in an eastern conference team wouldn't help. He's using his disability as leverage for more playing time, and in doing so is indirectly throwing teammates under the bus. If they give him unearned playtime, that playtime is taken from that of fellow teammates', and also only playing home games would be a privilege- playing half the # of games but getting as much money? Real lockerroom problems unfortunately.
knickswin
11-14-2012, 05:01 PM
he's not cut out for the NBA. to be honest, it was a stupid risk by the rockets to draft him.
2LeTTeRS
11-14-2012, 05:43 PM
Here goes the latest news on the Royce White situation >>>> http://www.startribune.com/sports/wolves/179307131.html
Rockets TV analyst Matt Bullard said Tuesday night that Royce White's comments about his decision to leave the team for now "shows that he does have, you know, a mental illness, because a lot of the things he's saying don't really match up with the reality as I see it as I'm around the Rockets every day."
White, the former Hopkins High star, whose Twitter handle is @Highway_30, responded to Bullard's video:
@bull50 Matt, How dare you say my comments are a representation of my #MentalIlness... if you don't know don't say. buzztap.com/-Qy82lF
— Royce White (@Highway_30) November 14, 2012
Dbrog
11-14-2012, 06:23 PM
I wonder if Royce is on drugs...he's awfully paranoid...like over the top, and I doubt he has Schizophrenia :confusedshrug:. Possible addict IMO.
FireDavidKahn
11-14-2012, 06:48 PM
Royce is a dumbass, always has been and always will be. :rolleyes:
chocolatethunder
11-14-2012, 06:51 PM
I wonder if Royce is on drugs...he's awfully paranoid...like over the top, and I doubt he has Schizophrenia :confusedshrug:. Possible addict IMO.
Thanks for your expert diagnosis doctor.
irondarts
11-14-2012, 06:54 PM
He's acting like a complete idiot on Twitter. I bet the Rockets either trade or release him before the season is over.
Dbrog
11-14-2012, 06:56 PM
Thanks for your expert diagnosis doctor.
Thanks, that will be $120 thx.
G-train
11-14-2012, 07:00 PM
He's not the only guy in the NBA with anxiety and fear of flying. He is just the only guy acting like this.
Vancouver-Grizz
11-14-2012, 07:02 PM
I wonder if Houston has the right to void his contract.
As I recall, White did not attend to parts of the training camp because Houston did not map out a plan for him to over come his disorder.
I am sure if he is not attending games and team travel, Houston must have some right to complete void the contract. Then give him his free agency options. Any team willing to sign this kid right now, they will know what they are getting.
I hope that if this kid is released....take some time off and figure this thing out because if he signs on another team and display this kind of attitude, he is done from the league.
For those whom suggestd that he play's home games only, as a owner who is paying his rookie contract only to get half the production....would you be satisfied?
FireDavidKahn
11-14-2012, 07:03 PM
He's not the only guy in the NBA with anxiety and fear of flying. He is just the only guy acting like this.
He is just an immature idiot. He was exactly the same way going back to his days in high school at Delasalle and Hopkins.
The_Yearning
11-14-2012, 07:15 PM
Tired of this bitch ass n-gga!
KB2009Champ
11-14-2012, 07:22 PM
I can understand him wanting them to support him but he's got to understand that they don't owe him a damn thing.
So I am not sure where the attitude comes from. They can cut him at anytime (they would still have to pay him) but its a business.
There are ways to get your point across and he's going about it the wrong way.
It looks like this guy should have gone undrafted.
unbreakable
11-14-2012, 07:58 PM
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
i dont wanna fly
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
Give the fella sleeping pills before boarding and have someone carry him to the plane.
bokes15
11-14-2012, 08:23 PM
Wow, so he makes all these demands and they meet them. He misses a bunch of practices and is out of game shape and then he gets upset about playing time? I think at this point we should all know it's beyond just the anxiety.
hawksdogsbraves
11-14-2012, 08:30 PM
Can't he go to some therapy? Pop a bunch of pills? It would be a shame to have this cost him an NBA career.
LT Ice Cream
11-14-2012, 08:33 PM
What a b*tch. Acting like all his problems are the responsibility of the Rockets to hand-hold him through it.
Don't take the job if you can't handle what comes with it. You're only getting paid millions to play a game so quit fkin whining.
knickswin
11-14-2012, 09:02 PM
it's reallllyyyyyy hard to have sympathy for this guy. he's extremely fortunate to have a guaranteed contract in the NBA, and he's taking a big crap all over his opportunity. he comes off as unbelievably immature. you reap what you sow ...
C-Webb4
11-14-2012, 10:42 PM
I saw on ESPN earlier that currently his issue was at their suggestion for him to join the d-league. LOL. Come on man.
GoRapz
11-14-2012, 10:47 PM
Wow please void this guys contract :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
Timmy D for MVP
11-14-2012, 11:07 PM
Welp reading through this I can see that some people still don't understand, it's not about the flying, that's merely a symptom of the larger problem which are his disorders. Drugs won't do anything for that except just to sedate him but once they wear off it all comes back. And he can, and will, meltdown like he did, and may still be doing.
What confuses the SHIT out of me is how this happened in the first place. How is it that, knowing allll of this before you snagged him, this wasn't set in stone completely before training camp even started? Royce is undoubtedly handling this wrong (SURPRISE! Another young athlete making bad decisions), but the Rockets didn't seem to really protect their investment here.
This is a bizarre situation, and I hope a resolution can be found. If it means Royce takes a year off basketball so be it, but I'd love to see this guy get on the court and produce because he def. has talent.
Whoah10115
11-14-2012, 11:43 PM
Welp reading through this I can see that some people still don't understand, it's not about the flying, that's merely a symptom of the larger problem which are his disorders. Drugs won't do anything for that except just to sedate him but once they wear off it all comes back. And he can, and will, meltdown like he did, and may still be doing.
What confuses the SHIT out of me is how this happened in the first place. How is it that, knowing allll of this before you snagged him, this wasn't set in stone completely before training camp even started? Royce is undoubtedly handling this wrong (SURPRISE! Another young athlete making bad decisions), but the Rockets didn't seem to really protect their investment here.
This is a bizarre situation, and I hope a resolution can be found. If it means Royce takes a year off basketball so be it, but I'd love to see this guy get on the court and produce because he def. has talent.
Right on all points.
MontaEllis24
11-15-2012, 12:34 AM
darn had him winning ROTY too guess that prediction didnt fly:hammerhead:
Timmy D for MVP
11-15-2012, 12:41 AM
darn had him winning ROTY too guess that prediction didnt fly:hammerhead:
That's so bad that it's good. :lol
lilbeastnani
11-15-2012, 01:03 AM
I don't get the people who think that he's entitled to special treatment. There are millions of people in America and in the world for that matter who suffer from anxiety disorders and have to take on lower stress jobs that they can manage in order to pay bills and put food on the table. Yet he should get 1.8 Mill to miss practices, have twitter rants, hold his team hostage, and refuse to report to the team unless his demands are met. At the end of the day, yes it's basketball but it's also a job. One that if you can't do, you pick a different profession.
TheGreatBlaze
11-15-2012, 01:07 AM
Just give the dude a couple lorazepam or xanax. Anxiety. Gone.
T-Time3
11-15-2012, 03:08 AM
at first when i watch the video on grantland, i feel bad for this dude
but now i'm thru with it, i'm tired of his bitchass lame excuses
if you won't fly, dont take an nba job
rockets fo need to stop providing anything royce demand
he ain't done nothing yet for the franchise
ukballer
11-15-2012, 04:29 AM
The guy is literally filling up my Twitter feed with retweets and making a real point of taking issue with Houston and the way things are going between the franchise and his 'needs'.
I had so much sympathy for the guy just a matter of days ago, but the more he spouts off on Twitter, the less I'm on his side. I don't see him working with the team towards some sort of solution, or if such solution doesn't exist, then a compromise. Instead he's sat there tweeting every hour of every day 'venting'. I also have issue with the fact he's basically coming off as that he has some sort of right to get playing time, that the D-League is beneath him, and that if Houston don't play him, it's because of his anxiety issues and not down to the fact he's missing practices/games and missed a chunk of training camp.
Terrence Jones, Montiejunas were there from the beginning. Jones especially had an impressive pre-season. But now neither are playing much if at all. Which makes it even harder for me to believe that White is being victimized. He needs to take his lumps and earn his playing time like any mid-1st round pick on a team trying to get into the playoffs.
It's such a sad situation though, for all concerned. I'm just disappointed at Royce's approach to everything. From the outside looking in, he's doing himself NO favours.
bluechox2
11-15-2012, 05:29 AM
how does he get into the nba with some mental disorder shit like this?
noob cake
11-15-2012, 05:51 AM
how does he get into the nba with some mental disorder shit like this?
Because he is a top 5 pure talent if you ignore his potential mental issues.
Point forward with PG vision, tight handles for a big.
Can shoot the jumper and has great post game.
Big enough to play PF, quick enough to play SF at times.
Rebounds like a boss.
This guy was basically a upgraded Lamar Odom on crack.
Rockets took a chance. Looks like it is blowing up on us right now. Don't know if White's career as a Rocket, or even in the NBA, can be saved right now.
poido123
11-15-2012, 07:12 AM
Because he is a top 5 pure talent if you ignore his potential mental issues.
Point forward with PG vision, tight handles for a big.
Can shoot the jumper and has great post game.
Big enough to play PF, quick enough to play SF at times.
Rebounds like a boss.
This guy was basically a upgraded Lamar Odom on crack.
Rockets took a chance. Looks like it is blowing up on us right now. Don't know if White's career as a Rocket, or even in the NBA, can be saved right now.
Good post.
What everyone is failing to understand is, the risk to pick White was a good risk. Sure it might not of come off this time, but if you can snag a top 5 talent and he ends up panning out, you then have more than just a role player who you could of picked at 16, which are a dime a dozen.
bingoa
11-15-2012, 09:12 AM
Because he is a top 5 pure talent if you ignore his potential mental issues.
Point forward with PG vision, tight handles for a big.
Can shoot the jumper and has great post game.
Big enough to play PF, quick enough to play SF at times.
Rebounds like a boss.
This guy was basically a upgraded Lamar Odom on crack.
Rockets took a chance. Looks like it is blowing up on us right now. Don't know if White's career as a Rocket, or even in the NBA, can be saved right now.
I thought he was a terrible shooter:confusedshrug:
So a glorified Boris Diaw is now a Top 5 talent?:wtf:
It's a unique skill set but people seem to be confusing 'unique' with 'Elite'
The Rockets working to help him doesn't mean they need to do everything 100% the way he'd like it done. Listening to him talk, he sounds like a spoiled baby. I don't doubt for 1 second his issues, but he doesn't sound at all like a person trying to get better. Everything is me me me, do it like i want, do it like i need. It really reminds me of a drug addict blaming others for not allowing him to get better so they can keep taking drugs. I think it's easy, he blames them, and doesn't need to play, to fly, because the rockets "won't allow him to".
OhNoTimNoSho
11-15-2012, 11:21 AM
His disorder should be called the sensitive bitch disorder. Cus thats exactly what he is. He thinks twitter is like his friend and is looking out for him. He doesnt realize its just a bunch of attention whores sympathizing with him to feel like they talked to someone important. Does this dude not have a dad or something? Hes basically a big black ******, he wants people to feel sorry for him. This generation of kids is so pathetic its unbelievable. Its like having character, being a man and earning respect don't exist for these people.
Whoah10115
11-15-2012, 11:58 AM
I thought he was a terrible shooter:confusedshrug:
So a glorified Boris Diaw is now a Top 5 talent?:wtf:
It's a unique skill set but people seem to be confusing 'unique' with 'Elite'
Yea, or you simply don't know who you're talking about.
I get the feelign some of you think the best think for Royce would be the Rockets giving in to every single demand he makes unconditionally. That's not how treatment works. That's not how anything works.
The Rockets set up a program with him to allow him to function (note: they are paying him to work) and he is not only not following it, he is publicly berating them at every turn, acting like a spoiled child.
This sounds like my daughter complaining she has a stomach ache because she didn't want to go to school. The point is not getting better, the point is avoiding the thing you don't want to do.
SCREWstonRockets
11-15-2012, 12:14 PM
Ok so this kid doesn't show up for training camp, misses practices and wants opportunity to earn playing time? Hahahahahahahahaha
rufuspaul
11-15-2012, 12:15 PM
he needs to go play in a small country where you dont have to fly to travel.
maybe go play in greece
Is he going to swim there?
Seriously if I didn't like to fly the NBA would be off my list of career choices. It would be right up there with pilot.
noob cake
11-15-2012, 12:48 PM
I thought he was a terrible shooter:confusedshrug:
So a glorified Boris Diaw is now a Top 5 talent?:wtf:
It's a unique skill set but people seem to be confusing 'unique' with 'Elite'
Yes a
15/5/5 or 17/10/5 player like Diaw or Odom is a top talent in a NBA draft. Not everyone can be LeBron and average 30/10/10
FinishHim!
11-15-2012, 03:17 PM
The Rockets working to help him doesn't mean they need to do everything 100% the way he'd like it done. Listening to him talk, he sounds like a spoiled baby. I don't doubt for 1 second his issues, but he doesn't sound at all like a person trying to get better. Everything is me me me, do it like i want, do it like i need. It really reminds me of a drug addict blaming others for not allowing him to get better so they can keep taking drugs. I think it's easy, he blames them, and doesn't need to play, to fly, because the rockets "won't allow him to".
Exactly! That's exactly how I see it. If he said "I want 10 chariots to take me to practice, I want a personal feeder to put food in my mouth so I don't have to, U want this I want that etc..." they shouldn't be forced to do everything he says because he has anxiety. If he makes a reasonable request and they deny it due to the anxiety then yes he has something to take issue with. If they do something like putting him in the D-League because he hasn't played or practiced and he cries anxiety, he's in the wrong. I feel the risk they took was beyond just the risk of him not panning out. It was a risk on his character, his maturity level, and on him being able and willing to meet them half way.
they knew he had problems when they drafted him. him wanting to ride a bus to every game isn't going to work- white himself should know that.
i think they're going to end up cutting him or trading him to a team that might want to work around his disorder.
anxiety disorder is a mf'er. i myself had my 1st panic attack last week and i thought i was going to shut down and die.
rodman91
11-15-2012, 05:04 PM
If he can't travel by a plane and can't practice and etc.. Rockets should kick his sorry ass out of franchise. Royce White is a disgrace to people with anxiety. There are many people with such mental illnesses and they give their best working in bad jobs, earning couple of bucks under shitty bosses.
Rockets gives him million of dollars, taking care of him like a baby and treat him like so important yet he is bitching about everything.How many companies treat like this to their employees?
There are many talented young men around the league and coming each year into the league as well. No big deal.
blablabla
11-15-2012, 05:15 PM
This dude seems like an obnoxious brat, calls out his organization on twitter, misses training camp, training sessions and then he wants playing time over guys who work much harder than him
fatboy11
11-15-2012, 06:01 PM
Rockets took a huge risk in drafting him, and it appears they've been bitten in the ass by it.
I understand he has some mental problems, but honestly, he's in the wrong profession. Constant travel and public/media attention. At the end of the day, the Rockets aren't paying him to not play. It's their fault for drafting him, but it's his fault for not being available. He gives all these vague, repetitive statements on Twitter that don't explain exactly what's keeping him from things like training camp and practices. I used to be really excited about the guy being a Rocket, but he's wearing thin on me.
well, i was trying to sympathize with the guy but i didn't know about the stuff on twitter. pretty crappy that he's not taking advantage of the mental help they're offering. sounds like a bad pick.
maybe he wants to pull a phil jackson type of deal. don't travel and just play home games.
Darius
11-15-2012, 09:04 PM
well, i was trying to sympathize with the guy but i didn't know about the stuff on twitter. pretty crappy that he's not taking advantage of the mental help they're offering. sounds like a bad pick.
maybe he wants to pull a phil jackson type of deal. don't travel and just play home games.
lol has any NBA player only played home games before?
R.I.P.
11-15-2012, 09:17 PM
lol has any NBA player only played home games before?
Blatche?*
*Not sure if right. Trying to make joke about some player, who had really awful road statistics.
irondarts
11-15-2012, 10:17 PM
The whole thing about having him only play home games is absolutely ludicrous.
If he can't meet the demands of his job, he needs to move on to another career. It's as simple as that. Look, I feel for his disorder, but if a regular person cannot attend work, they get fired. If Royce's disorder will not allow him to attend his job, he needs to get a new job.
Royce should not expect the Rockets to meet every one of his demands when he won't even go to therapy they have set up and he continues to spout off on Twitter about the organization.
fatboy11
11-15-2012, 10:42 PM
The whole thing about having him only play home games is absolutely ludicrous.
If he can't meet the demands of his job, he needs to move on to another career. It's as simple as that. Look, I feel for his disorder, but if a regular person cannot attend work, they get fired. If Royce's disorder will not allow him to attend his job, he needs to get a new job.
Royce should not expect the Rockets to meet every one of his demands when he won't even go to therapy they have set up and he continues to spout off on Twitter about the organization.
Completely agree.
Employer's responsibility is to reasonabyl accommodate disabilities and it seems as if the Rockets have done that. It just doesn't please Royce White. It was more than reasonable for them to allow him to not travel to certain games with the team. It is not, however, reasonable for White to complain about not getting playing time and accusing the Rockets of holding his disorder against him when it comes to playing time when he didn't even attend training camp. Terrence Jones and Donatas Motiejunas have much more a gripe about not playing than Royce White because actually went through training camp.
selrahc
11-16-2012, 01:25 AM
tell the pusssy to get over it... wtf
ukballer
11-16-2012, 03:36 AM
Royce White @Highway_30
Meeting halfway isn't an option... In now way will I COMPROMISE my HEALTH in the interest of business. #NotLogical we have to #dothework
Royce White @Highway_30
Guess I'm getting fined 15k again tomorrow, because Dr. PHINK can only do a phone call...and that's not a "sufficient" way to meet. #Rockets
Andddddddddd he's off again.
InspiredLebowski
11-16-2012, 03:58 AM
Seriously, where's his agent? His publicist (assuming he has one)? There's nothing good that can come of this for him. If he's got complaints fine, but shut up on internet.
You've got your guaranteed money Royce. Take it, finish your degree, and get a real job. See how accommodating your next employer is. You left school early, this is what you wanted. It's not another private school you jumped to after getting expelled again. You're not getting your ass kissed anymore.
andremiller07
11-16-2012, 04:13 AM
Look ethier you want to play in the NBA or you don't, ethier do what you need to do to be a pro or don't its really that simple. If you don't want to take flights and still play ball go to a decent club in europe (take a boat there or something) which doesn't play outside the country and take the bus with the rest of the team everywhere.
I love Royce's game but this is getting beyond a joke now, there's literally players out there who work there asses off travel the world to maybe get a chance to play in the nba, they are away from there families sometimes live in crap conditions just to chase a dream and this dude is making demands and has not even stepped onto a nba court i mean seriously. All this is showing is he ain't mentally ready for the nba currently and ethier needs to accept the help being offered to him by the rockets or simply piss off and do something else. The rockets from what i have seen have been beyond good to him, giving him time but there a far more important thing for them to be doing than worrying if a employee is even gonna show up to work.
AngelEyes
11-16-2012, 04:17 AM
What a disgrace to humanity. Throw this piece of shit in the plane and strap his dumbass down. Anxiety over flying? What a crock of horse shit. Another peep out of this guy should result in an automatic suspension.
irondarts
11-16-2012, 01:06 PM
Now Royce is going off on Twitter blaming the therapist the Rockets set up for him to see.
He's also posting pictures of his son claiming his son needs him "healthy".
To be honest, Royce has always struck me as an extremely immature person, dating back to the Minnesota issues. How he refuses to take responsibility for the laptop thing, and he continues to say how the truth never came out. He's just showing his extreme immaturity once again.
Rockets need to get rid of him.
Boomerang
11-16-2012, 01:08 PM
rockets are dumb as hell for choosing him :roll: :roll:
they took the risk and now it failed.
they've also failed by giving harden n lin those big far contracts :applause:
go morey :applause:
Now Royce is going off on Twitter blaming the therapist the Rockets set up for him to see.
He's also posting pictures of his son claiming his son needs him "healthy".
To be honest, Royce has always struck me as an extremely immature person, dating back to the Minnesota issues. How he refuses to take responsibility for the laptop thing, and he continues to say how the truth never came out. He's just showing his extreme immaturity once again.
Rockets need to get rid of him.
I am very sick of this, wish this guy never got drafted. Guys from Iowa don't act like this. They can flop like Reggie Evans, as long as they play hard. They don't not show up to practices and incur fines. This is just disgraceful.
His contract should be voided.
Godzuki
11-16-2012, 01:19 PM
i honestly don't get how someone can get paid while not playing using this excuse. put him to sleep if he can't handle plane rides, make him tough it out, but putting people on IR due to anxiety? seriously wtf? :facepalm
blablabla
11-16-2012, 01:21 PM
i honestly don't get how someone can get paid while not playing using this excuse. put him to sleep if he can't handle plane rides, make him tough it out, but putting people on IR due to anxiety? seriously wtf? :facepalm
in a normal job they would have thrown his ass out the 2nd time he missed work
guaranteed contract are BS
Droid101
11-16-2012, 01:24 PM
NBA players should be banned from social media until they have at least two years in the league.
irondarts
11-16-2012, 01:27 PM
On Twitter he says:
I want the Rockets to be man enough to admit they're uneducated.
Hey Royce, how about you be man enough to attend your fvcking job?
blablabla
11-16-2012, 01:28 PM
On Twitter he says:
I want the Rockets to be man enough to admit they're uneducated.
Hey Royce, how about you be man enough to attend your fvcking job?
lol, what a fool
Whoah10115
11-16-2012, 01:46 PM
NBA players should be banned from social media until they have at least two years in the league.
:applause: :applause:
jamal99
11-16-2012, 01:55 PM
Ok, I supported this guy at the beginning, but this is getting ridiculous...
Stop blaming everyone else, man up and fix your problems if you can, and if you can't, quit pro basketball and do whatever the hell you can...
rodman91
11-16-2012, 02:27 PM
"Humanitarian, Writer, Entrepreneur, Director and Imaginer."
^
:lol Delusional wasted pick.
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