are we making too little of the fact that Kobe is BEASTING?!

[heyhey]

most efficient season to date

26 points on 53% and another gem tonight even without Nash playing.

If Kobe finish the season with 50% fg percentage at the age of 34 imagine what he would have done at 27 or 28 if he cared about his fg percentage at all :applause:

Kobe outlasts all the competiton, first iverson then mcgrady then carter then wade and if he plays till 40 prolly lebron too.

[bmulls]

Sample size is smaller than Jeremy Lin's dominating streak last season

[LoneyROY7]

It's tempered because the Lakers are losing.

[KG215]

Yes and no. This isn't the first time he's gotten off to a hot start to start the season, though, before his percentages leveled out. He may keep scoring this efficiently all season, and if does he deserves so major praise; but the season is eight games old.

If the Lakers were something like 6-2 or 5-3 instead of 3-5, though, people would be going nuts.

[RRR3]

LOL @ Kobe outlasting LBJ FOH.

[BEAST Griffin]

3-5

[LoneyROY7]

Kobe is averaging 29.8 ppg in losses and 20.6 ppg in wins this season.

[Boomerang]

MVP?:cheers:

[RRR3]

Kobe is averaging 29.8 ppg in losses and 20.6 ppg in wins this season.
:lol

[Boomerang]

Kobe is averaging 29.8 ppg in losses and 20.6 ppg in wins this season.
Because he sits out in the 4th with a big lead. :pimp:

[KG215]

Because he sits out in the 4th with a big lead. :pimp:
In one of their blowout wins, Kobe and Gasol both were still on the floor with 5-6 minutes left in the fourth.

[bluechox2]

teams played better defense on kobe at the end of 4th quarter

[Artillery]

In one of their blowout wins, Kobe and Gasol both were still on the floor with 5-6 minutes left in the fourth.

I actually remember Kobe checking back into a blowout loss(Jazz game) just to pad his stats with an extra eight points in the last two minutes

[TheBigVeto]

Sample size is smaller than Jeremy Lin's dominating streak last season

:applause: :applause:

[Clippersfan86]

Just like everybody knows. When you're putting up big numbers during losses, nobody cares.

[DuMa]

yep hes beasting that team all the way to lottery :applause:

[chazzy]

Just like everybody knows. When you're putting up big numbers during losses, nobody cares.
You seemed to care about Blake greatly a couple years ago :lol

[Heavincent]

He's a legit MVP candidate. Well at least he should be.

[G-Funk]

Sample size is smaller than Jeremy Lin's dominating streak last season
Just curious who's Jeremy Lin?

[Clippersfan86]

You seemed to care about Blake greatly a couple years ago :lol

Yes and Lakers fans care about what Kobe's doing. I'm just saying analysts and general NBA fans, or fans of other teams won't talk about Kobe when the Lakers are losing.

[KG215]

He's a legit MVP candidate. Well at least he should be.
Yes, and we know how much that means less than 10 games into the season in the middle of November.

[chazzy]

Yes and Lakers fans care about what Kobe's doing. I'm just saying analysts and general NBA fans, or fans of other teams won't talk about Kobe when the Lakers are losing.
Article today http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/51438/now-at-the-rim-kobe-bryant

[Heavincent]

Yes, and we know how much that means less than 10 games into the season in the middle of November.

Yes because he'll just randomly fall off a cliff.

[M.Bustly15A5RU8]

He's a legit MVP candidate. Well at least he should be.

MVPs usually go to the best player on a winning team. He doesn't meet either of those criteria.

:D

[RRR3]

Yes because he'll just randomly fall off a cliff.
He will, or were you not paying attention last year? Or do you honestly think Kobe will keep shooting like Dirk?

[KG215]

Yes because he'll just randomly fall off a cliff.
Didn't say that, but we have no idea who will be having a bigger impact on the team (Kobe or Dwight) in February, March, and April, and we have no idea if Kobe will still be scoring 27-28 PPG on 50%+ shooting.

But sure, if it makes you feel better, Kobe is a legit MVP candidate right now.

[Clippersfan86]

Article today http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/51438/now-at-the-rim-kobe-bryant

Okay... not saying the world will completely be silent about Kobe. Just saying the talk will be significantly less, which is obvious. If Lakers were let's say 6-2 instead we would have a gazillion articles, interviews blah blah about how Kobe is having his best season in years.

[KG215]

MVPs usually go to the best player on a winning team. He doesn't meet either of those criteria.

:D
No one really meets MVP criteria right now, because it's f***ing November 13th and most teams have about 75 games to go.

[Magic 32]

We are talking about him because we know the Lakers will end up with a +50 win season.

Haters:facepalm

[heyhey]

He will, or were you not paying attention last year? Or do you honestly think Kobe will keep shooting like Dirk?

:oldlol: comparing kobe to dirk. kobe is the best shooter/scorer in the game, only reason he never shot over 50%fg is cause he never gave a crap about that stuff and took hard shots just to test himself. Now he's older he's just playing in the rhythm with less heat checks and all the sudden he's most efficient perimeter player in the game

[Heavincent]

He will, or were you not paying attention last year? Or do you honestly think Kobe will keep shooting like Dirk?

His FG% will go down just a little bit. He'll most likely finish the season with something like 26/6/5 on 48 or 49%.

He didn't fall off a cliff last year anyway. He was the best SG in the league throughout the season.

[RRR3]

We are talking about him because we know the Lakers will end up with a +50 win season.

Haters:facepalm
We also know that LeBron, Dwight, Durant and and CP3 will be better.

[RRR3]

:oldlol: comparing kobe to dirk. kobe is the best shooter/scorer in the game, only reason he never shot over 50%fg is cause he never gave a crap about that stuff and took hard shots just to test himself. Now he's older he's just playing in the rhythm with less heat checks and all the sudden he's most efficient perimeter player in the game
:biggums:

[Heavincent]

We also know that Dwight and and CP3 will be better.

I doubt it.

[plowking]

His disappearing act in the clutch was nice tonight.

[RRR3]

I doubt it.
They have been for two years straight:confusedshrug:

[Heavincent]

His disappearing act in the clutch was nice tonight.

So you're a Heat and 49ers fan? Two teams that are literally on opposite ends of the country. What's the story behind that? Just curious.

[M.Bustly15A5RU8]

They have been for two years straight:confusedshrug:

Kobe scores more points. That's the only aspect of basketball therefore he's better. Anyone who's logical will agree with that.

[heyhey]

So you're a Heat and 49ers fan? Two teams that are literally on opposite ends of the country. What's the story behind that? Just curious.

he's also a chelsea fan... globetrotting bandwagonning act right there :oldlol:

[plowking]

So you're a Heat and 49ers fan? Two teams that are literally on opposite ends of the country. What's the story behind that? Just curious.

I chose teams based on who I like? I'm from Australia, and those are two of the cities I've actually visited in the USA apart from NY and LA.

Problem?

[swag2011]

typical Kobe haters in here, can't stand to see him succeed. He's been playing great so far, yet give him no credit. 5 rings and counting bitches, stay mad. And yes i used the ring argument because no matter how much you hate off him, you can't take that away from him.

LOL at everyone thinking Kobe still wouldn't be the best player on the Lakers. If there's one thing you should know about him during his 16 year career, never doubt him. Yet you all still never seem to learn.

[Remix]

We also know that LeBron, Dwight, Durant and and CP3 will be better.
In no way will Dwight > Kobe in terms of MVP.

You can't be the 'most VALUABLE' player if you are a liability when the ball is in your hands in the fourth quarter. Smart teams will just foul him because he's a piss poor freethrow shooter.

Unless your name is Shaq, and Dwight isn't even smelling shaq's farts when he was in his prime.

[Magic 32]

17th season. Still forcing the haters to be creative. :bowdown: :applause:

[Micku]

His FG% will go down just a little bit. He'll most likely finish the season with something like 26/6/5 on 48 or 49%.

He didn't fall off a cliff last year anyway. He was the best SG in the league throughout the season.

Doubtful.

He did this year ago. He did two years ago. He did this three years ago.

When Kobe was younger back in 2002, he actually averaged 52% shooting in his first 15 games. He dropped down to ..469 or just 47%. Kobe also had a similar hot shooting streak a year ago and the year before last.

With that said though, Kobe's been great on offense so far. Hope he keeps going. He's getting great looks and his jumper has been money.

[KG215]

So you're a Heat and 49ers fan? Two teams that are literally on opposite ends of the country. What's the story behind that? Just curious.
Aren't you a Jets and Lakers fan? Or are you a Jets and Knicks or Nets fan and just have an abnormal obsession for one player who's never played for your favorite team?

[oh the horror]

Im sorry but the way Kobe is playing at his age, and his mileage on his body so far is INCREDIBLE.


I know some of you kids here arent old enough to compare certain stars or have seen players come and go, but Im telling you....from a fan that has been watching the NBA since early 90s....Kobe's abilities being what they are at this point in his career are nothing short of amazing.


Any doubt of that, and even your hatred for him not allowing you to AT LEAST admit to that is you being a fu*king hater. Plain and simple.


You dont HAVE TO like him as a man, but how can you not respect how he plays?


Shit is ridiculous from some of you here.

[Meticode]

He's is playing ridiculously efficient right now, but I'll be surprised if he's still shooting over 50% by the end of the season. It's just not normal for a shooting guard of almost any caliber to do that.

I'm glad he's still doing this thing as he's gotten older. It'll be a sadder day when he retires. He's by far the closest thing to Michael Jordan since he retired after his last championship.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Lebron stans vs. Kobe apostles. Never ending w/ you guys. :lol

Anyway...Bean has been fantastic. Lets hope he keeps this up.

[Mr. Jabbar]

yep hes beasting that team all the way to lottery :applause:

godbe forgives you

[Money 23]

I chose teams based on who I like? I'm from Australia, and those are two of the cities I've actually visited in the USA apart from NY and LA.

Problem?
You don't type like you're an aussie

Have you seen that weirdo poido and the stuff he types? haha

I thought the OG plowking was from Miami?

[Remix]

Doubtful.

He did this year ago. He did two years ago. He did this three years ago.

When Kobe was younger back in 2002, he actually averaged 52% shooting in his first 15 games. He dropped down to ..469 or just 47%. Kobe also had a similar hot shooting streak a year ago and the year before last.

With that said though, Kobe's been great on offense so far. Hope he keeps going. He's getting great looks and his jumper has been money.
False

[TheeBeast]

So basically all the Spurs fans here feel like they've ran off with the W. No one talking s^&* about the other team.

Advantage for now: better three point shooters

We'll see you next game :cheers:

[plowking]

You don't type like you're an aussie

Have you seen that weirdo poido and the stuff he types? haha

I thought the OG plowking was from Miami?

Nah man. I've always been from Australia lol... I got my account back, so yeah. I thought most on the OTC board knew that...

[Mr. Jabbar]

he's also a chelsea fan... globetrotting bandwagonning act right there :oldlol:

:roll:

[oh the horror]

Does it really matter where the fu*k someone is from in regards to what team they want to root for?


:facepalm

[Money 23]

Nah man. I've always been from Australia lol... I got my account back, so yeah. I thought most on the OTC board knew that...
I remember you disappeared for a LONG time.

I never remembered you being so ... aggressive or argumentative. Seem different.

You come across as more American than you do Australian, mate. :roll:

[RRR3]

Aren't you a Jets and Lakers fan? Or are you a Jets and Knicks or Nets fan and just have an abnormal obsession for one player who's never played for your favorite team?
Eh, Heav is cool, LeBron converted him :D :pimp:

[plowking]

I remember you disappeared for a LONG time.

I never remembered you being so ... aggressive or argumentative. Seem different.

You come across as more American than you do Australian, mate. :roll:

Its not even that. I just like pissing the new posters off. :lol

Yeah, I did wonder off for a good year or so, but needed somewhere to talk about basketball. Not exactly popular over here.

[alleykat]

actually i've seen countless "kobe is amazing" mixed in with "lakers need to fire brown" threads this season so far. so no, nobody is making too little of it....

he is beasting tho....

[Legends66NBA7]

Does it really matter where the fu*k someone is from in regards to what team they want to root for?


:facepalm

Sadly, it does for some of these guys.

:confusedshrug:

[plowking]

:roll:

Oh, that's cute. You're trying to make friends on a message board.

[Artillery]

Putting up gaudy numbers on a bad team. Wake me up when the Lakers become relevant this season.

[Deuce Bigalow]

2011-12 Season - First 8 games: 26.4 PPG, .433%FG, .189%3PT

2012-13 Season - First 8 games: 26.4 PPG, .551%FG, .441%3PT

[L.A. Jazz]

Just like everybody knows. When you're putting up big numbers during losses, nobody cares.

and nobody cares about your FG%, if you win.

[Legends66NBA7]

2011-12 Season - First 8 games: 26.4 PPG, .433%FG, .189%3PT

2012-13 Season - First 8 games: 26.4 PPG, .551%FG, .441%3PT

Actually these stats are a lot more telling about the production of his shots in the first 8 games:

11-12 FGA - 22.5 3PTA - 4.6

12-13 FGA - 17 3PTA - 4.3

He is just get better looks and taking shots within the offense much better this year.

[KDthunderup]

Kobe's been doing a lot better this season with his efficiency.

imo a Kobe shooting 20ppg at 50% is a lot better then high 20 to low 30 points per game on 43%

[I<3NBA]

no one cares if they are losing.

[Micku]

Im sorry but the way Kobe is playing at his age, and his mileage on his body so far is INCREDIBLE.


Oh yeah. So far so good. It's amazing that Kobe can even keep this level of play at his age and playing so much throughout his career.

[NumberSix]

Is the new official Kobetard position now going to be "stats matter, not winning"? I mean, that'd be pretty fukkin ironic.

[Magic 32]

no one cares if they are losing.

and you think that's going to continue?

[plowking]

and you think that's going to continue?

What are we presented with? Losses. That's all you can look at now.

No one knows if the Lakers start winning or not.

[Hoopz2332]

he wont keep it up. Every year Kobe has a hot stretch of shooting and then he has a god awful stretch to bring it back down to his normal averages

[pauk]

Its a hot streak and its just to early, wait until at least 30 games have passed...

[OldSchoolBBall]

most efficient season to date

26 points on 53% and another gem tonight even without Nash playing.

If Kobe finish the season with 50% fg percentage at the age of 34 imagine what he would have done at 27 or 28 if he cared about his fg percentage at all :applause:

:rolleyes: :roll: :roll:

[NBASTATMAN]

most efficient season to date

26 points on 53% and another gem tonight even without Nash playing.

If Kobe finish the season with 50% fg percentage at the age of 34 imagine what he would have done at 27 or 28 if he cared about his fg percentage at all :applause:

Kobe outlasts all the competiton, first iverson then mcgrady then carter then wade and if he plays till 40 prolly lebron too.


In D Antoni's system and with the talent around him shooting under 48 percent would be horrible. If he can shoot 50 percent that would be really good but no great accomplishment..

[All Net]

More would be if the team was winning...

[heyhey]

:rolleyes: :roll: :roll:

u mad cuz the only argument against kobe's game is coming to an end?

[OldSchoolBBall]

u mad cuz the only argument against kobe's game is coming to an end?

lol No. You stans kill me. The "arguments" against his game - OVER HIS CAREER OF 16 SEASONS - will always stand and still do stand. 5 games or whatever doesn't change ANYTHING. I've seen Kobe stans go bonkers over his numbers at the start of other seasons too (e.g., shooting 49% to start the '09 or '10 season, averaging 1.2+ bpg for the first 5-7 games several years back etc.). Invariably, Kobe goes back to, well, being Kobe. And that's because a player's game doesn't change after 16 years in the league, especially not when the main reason for his deficiencies is his own mentality and lack of bball IQ.

I don't doubt that his efficiency may very well end up being higher this year than it's ever been, but that's for two reasons: lower ppg volume and less defensive attention due to the insane amount of offensive talent he has on the team.

[AlphaWolf24]

Kobe is averaging 29.8 ppg in losses and 20.6 ppg in wins this season.


:lol are people really this stoopid?


- that's like saying...Tom Brady throws 30 times a game in losses..only 20 times a game in Wins...he has to pass more if the Pats are trying to comback

- when you are down...you are going to shoot more in order to comeback....when Pau Gasol is Bricking 15 ' footers like last night....LA needs Kobe to score more in order to win.

- Kindergarten math...:confusedshrug:

[White Mamba]

lol No. You stans kill me. The "arguments" against his game - OVER HIS CAREER OF 16 SEASONS - will always stand and still do stand. 5 games or whatever doesn't change ANYTHING. I've seen Kobe stans go bonkers over his numbers at the start of other seasons too (e.g., shooting 49% to start the '09 or '10 season, averaging 1.2+ bpg for the first 5-7 games several years back etc.). Invariably, Kobe goes back to, well, being Kobe. And that's because a player's game doesn't change after 16 years in the league, especially not when the main reason for his deficiencies is his own mentality and lack of bball IQ.

I don't doubt that his efficiency may very well end up being higher this year than it's ever been, but that's for two reasons: lower ppg volume and less defensive attention due to the insane amount of offensive talent he has on the team.

:facepalm :facepalm

[ripthekik]

If the team direction stays the same, I could see him keeping up, or dropping just a little. However the real test is when D'antoni comes in. THEN we'll know how Kobe'll do, under the new offensive system.

[funnystuff]

Let's make 8 million Kobe threads when he actually becomes a winner this season.


The Kobe cack suckathon at a 3-5 record.

Unbelievable.

[9erempiree]

Easily the MVP.

What's so great about Kobe this year is that he isn't carrying scrubs. He's carrying superstars.

I don't remember anyone in history having to carry superstars.

:bowdown:

[funnystuff]

Easily the MVP.

What's so great about Kobe this year is that he isn't carrying scrubs. He's carrying superstars.

I don't remember anyone in history having to carry superstars.

:bowdown:
Last years title winners. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :facepalm

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Maybe. He started out like this a few years back. Hitting GW's and what not. Only difference is the Lakers were winning.

As long as Nash and Dwight continue to take defensive pressure off of Kobe, I don't see how maintaining efficiency would be a problem.

[Haymaker]

Happens when you got a threat in the post playing with you. Shaq anyone?

[I<3NBA]

Is the new official Kobetard position now going to be "stats matter, not winning"? I mean, that'd be pretty fukkin ironic.
gotta make those check my stats t-shirt for Kobe :lol

[Replay32]

This isn't anything new. Kobe usually shoots the ball well the 1st month of the season. The lakers usually have a lot of home games early in the season also. Kobe shoots consistently well at home, because he knows the rims like no other.

I thought he would have a career year in terms of efficiency this year. What I like is that he's not forcing a lot of bad shots and he's not going down shooting the ball 7-8 times in a row in games so far this season. He's letting the game come to him and he's being more patient.

But it's early. Only 8 games in. The season is long and fatigue will set in. We'll have to see if he can keep this up. But this is normal for Kobe in the beginning of the season.

[Levity]

as long as MD can manage his minutes properly, Kobe should stay somewhat close those percentages. Brown played him into the ground last season. If they can somehow manage to keep him between 30-33 minutes a game, i think we will see his efficiency settle around what it is right now.

[Heavincent]

Aren't you a Jets and Lakers fan? Or are you a Jets and Knicks or Nets fan and just have an abnormal obsession for one player who's never played for your favorite team?

I'm a Nets fan that enjoys watching Kobe. I don't see what the problem is.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Kobe takes tough shots, Lakers offense as a whole is elite. Lakers win a title or five.

Kobe takes easier shots, Lakers offense as whole is not as elite. Lakers have a losing record.

Having Steve Blake, Pau Gasol and/or World Peace shooting tough shots instead of Kobe isn't making them a better team.

:confusedshrug:

[hawke812]

LOL @ Kobe outlasting LBJ FOH.

Lebron may be like Sampson. Once his hair is gone, goodbye powers:confusedshrug:

[KG215]

I'm a Nets fan that enjoys watching Kobe. I don't see what the problem is.
There's not a problem with it, really, but you seem to be someone who more than "just enjoys watching Kobe play."

[RRR3]

There's not a problem with it, really, but you seem to be someone who more than "just enjoys watching Kobe play."
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Sorry, Heav, couldn't resist :D

[selrahc]

Kobe > Lebron witout a doubt

[Money 23]

Kobe is ballin though, high efficiency. What this guy is doing given his age, mileage is INSANE. I'd still consider him LA's best player, even over Dwight Howard. The skill set that allows him to do his thing, it gives me great memory of Jordan. Yea, peak / prime for peak / prime MJ was clearly superior, but Kobe's probably the closest we'll ever see to MJ again, in terms of old school competitive nature, skill set, IQ, and athleticism. Miss this guy when he is gone, for sure. He's playing top five player in the league caliber ball.

[Legends66NBA7]

Actually these stats are a lot more telling about the production of his shots in the first 8 games:

11-12 FGA - 22.5 3PTA - 4.6

12-13 FGA - 17 3PTA - 4.3

He is just get better looks and taking shots within the offense much better this year.


Thought I would share this "neg" I got for the post above me -


your ****ing retarded, stop wasting space u motherfukkin hoe, I will send you back to afrikka cuz im a swedish warrior who kickz ****** like u everyday, go and wank u fggot- millwad

And what's funny is that his rep isn't worth shit (it's neutral), so it isn't even millwad.

:oldlol:

[BlackVVaves]

Yes and no. This isn't the first time he's gotten off to a hot start to start the season, though, before his percentages leveled out. He may keep scoring this efficiently all season, and if does he deserves so major praise; but the season is eight games old.

If the Lakers were something like 6-2 or 5-3 instead of 3-5, though, people would be going nuts.

Pretty much this.

Also, for people saying but his record sucks. This is true, and why his numbers aren't being praised as much. But let's not act like that team sucking has nothing to do with the bench producing less than last year, Gasol producing less than last year, Steve Blake and Morris the starting point guards for the majority of the games thusfar, and Dwight still getting his conditioning up to par.

If not for Kobe, his Lakers would likely have a 1-5 record, and a whole bunch of embarrassing 20+ losses.

Also, LoL @ Kobe "outlasting" Lebron :facepalm

[BlackVVaves]

Kobe is ballin though, high efficiency. What this guy is doing given his age, mileage is INSANE. I'd still consider him LA's best player, even over Dwight Howard. The skill set that allows him to do his thing, it gives me great memory of Jordan. Yea, peak / prime for peak / prime MJ was clearly superior, but Kobe's probably the closest we'll ever see to MJ again, in terms of old school competitive nature, skill set, IQ, and athleticism. Miss this guy when he is gone, for sure. He's playing top five player in the league caliber ball.

It's been 8 games man. It's amazing that he can do this even for a couple of games given his age and wear and tear on his body. But, it's 8 games. If you expect his efficiency to remain over 50% for the season, prepare for catastrophic disappointment.

[Hoopz2332]

he wont keep it up. Every year Kobe has a hot stretch of shooting and then he has a god awful stretch to bring it back down to his normal averages


Guess I was right..Kobrick has returned:oldlol:

[Hoopz2332]

He's down to .489 right now...45%, here we come!!:oldlol: