Texas Petition to Secede Has Enough Signatures to Require White House Response

[eliteballer]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/13/texas-secession-petition-qualifies-for-white-house-response_n_2125159.html

Didn't these morons learn the first time?

[IcanzIIravor]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/13/texas-secession-petition-qualifies-for-white-house-response_n_2125159.html

Didn't these morons learn the first time?

The reply should be one word and that word should be 'Nuts!'

[Is He Ill]

:facepalm

[InspiredLebowski]

Online petitions aren't actual petitions. Good try HuffPo, got some clicks I guess.

[Rasheed1]

Republicans = pathetic

Secede? really? because you lost the election? :facepalm

I hope they do it....

they'll probably get invaded the very next day... idiots :oldlol:

[DukeDelonte13]

i feel bad for the normal texans.

[Godzuki]

Republicans are the biggest sore losers. they're just so fanatical.

[G-Funk]

"Dafuk?" Should be the response

[longhornfan1234]

Thank you Texas. :bowdown: :bowdown:

This is not the traditional America. We have become too progressive. There's too many people that don't want to work and want free stuff.

[Droid101]

Thank you Texas. :bowdown: :bowdown:

This is not the traditional America. We have become too progressive. There's too many people that don't want to work and want free stuff.
http://blogs.covchurch.org/acmark/files/2012/09/question-31842991.jpeg

[bluechox2]

america will invade the next day and bomb everything, besides, no way we will let one of the biggest oil fields go for free


plus. how the hell will texas form an army of their own?

[Droid101]

Saw this on another site. Worth reposting:

I'm just shocked that we have so many people that take these petitions seriously. If you sign one you no longer have the privilege of wrapping your self in the flag and declaring your patriotism. F*CK YOU! You are a crybaby traitor to the constitution you pretend to support. Your actions are seditious and your character is as weak as it gets.

[LJJ]

December 1st: Texas officially secedes from the US.

December 2nd:

http://i.imgur.com/Q72mb.jpg

[TheMan]

Thank you Texas. :bowdown: :bowdown:

This is not the traditional America. We have become too progressive. There's too many people that don't want to work and want free stuff.
Earning those neg reps post by post:applause:

[longhornfan1234]

Earning those neg reps post by post:applause:

What's neg points?

[rufuspaul]

Republicans are the biggest sore losers. they're just so fanatical.


Yeah the lunatic fringe has come out loud which is good imo because they expose their stupidity and essentially shoot whatever "movement" they had in the foot.

I remember Democrats in 2004 threatening to move to Canada and arrest Bush and Cheney for war crimes. It'll die down soon.

[DonDadda59]

Thank you Texas. :bowdown: :bowdown:

This is not the traditional America. We have become too progressive. There's too many people that don't want to work and want free stuff.

http://cdn-images.hollywood.com/site/darth_vader_jan12.jpg

"You are a part of the CONfederate alliance and a traitor to your nation"

And what the hell is the 'traditional America"? I don't know if you've noticed but it's the year 2012, a lot of things have changed since the last time unAmerican traitors such as yourself declared secession. I'm assuming that 'traditional America' includes the institution of slavery, am I off base here? :confusedshrug:

You guys are completely out of touch with reality, and that is why you fail.

[Take Your Lumps]

To quote the great Willy Wonka:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Uc-LIr4wD8

:rolleyes:

[-p.tiddy-]

lol @ anyone that takes this seriously...

[General]

I'd love to immigrate there LEGALLY the next day if it ever happens, but I'm not giving up on this country, we can survive four years of this socialist, I'm sure of it. . The next four years won't be pretty folks. Obama is leading us down a dangerous path. Government will get bigger, tax rates will rise on our job creators, and he will change the course of our country forever if he gets a chance to replace a conservative judge on the Supreme Court.


I remember Democrats in 2004 threatening to move to Canada and arrest Bush and Cheney for war crimes. It'll die down soon.
This. Liberals are acting like they were so cool headed in 2000/2004:rolleyes: The left was vicious calling our President a war criminal and the mainstream media was compliant.

[Droid101]

job creators,
STOP USING THAT ****ING IDIOTIC TERM :banghead: :banghead:

[embersyc]

I'd love to immigrate there LEGALLY the next day if it ever happens, but I'm not giving up on this country, we can survive four years of this socialist, I'm sure of it. . The next four years won't be pretty folks. Obama is leading us down a dangerous path. Government will get bigger, tax rates will rise on our job creators, and he will change the course of our country forever if he gets a chance to replace a conservative judge on the Supreme Court.


This. Liberals are acting like they were so cool headed in 2000/2004:rolleyes: The left was vicious calling our President a war criminal and the mainstream media was compliant.

The previous president actually had a major American landmark destroyed by a terrorist attack. Cut taxes and deregulated things to the point that it led to largest financial collapse of our lifetimes. Employed the use torture as a legitimate tactic. Started a war under false pretense and gave 700 billion to banks and said their can be no oversight to how that money is used.

:coleman:

Oh yea, Obama is just as bad as Bush....

Yeah right. :sleeping

[rufuspaul]

Employed the use torture as a legitimate tactic.


That tactic led to Obama's greatest foreign policy achievement. Just sayin.

[Rasheed1]

STOP USING THAT ****ING IDIOTIC TERM :banghead: :banghead:


:oldlol: job creators


thats their key word which actually stands for their bullsh*t trickle down economics...

[longhornfan1234]

http://cdn-images.hollywood.com/site/darth_vader_jan12.jpg

"You are a part of the CONfederate alliance and a traitor to your nation"

And what the hell is the 'traditional America"? I don't know if you've noticed but it's the year 2012, a lot of things have changed since the last time unAmerican traitors such as yourself declared secession. I'm assuming that 'traditional America' includes the institution of slavery, am I off base here? :confusedshrug:

You guys are completely out of touch with reality, and that is why you fail.


If you work., YOU get paid, not the lazy parasites who live off the taxes stolen from your paycheck.

If you don't work to EARN what you want, you don't get it. Government doesn't steal it form your neighbor and give it to you.

The government is LIMITED in what it can do by the powers granted by the Constitution of the United States. It is NOT here to feed, clothe, house and medicate you when you are too lazy to get off your butt and work to earn what you need.

People are held responsible for the consequences of their own actions and choices and reap the rewards of those same actions. These include choices to smoke, drink alcohol, be fat, a junkie, a sexual animal with no control, a baby factory or a criminal by being in this country illegally.

I choose what charities I support and IF I support them.

If you CHOOSE to live in disaster prone areas, YOU also choose to accept the consequences. You don't have the right to tell taxpayers across the country they have to pay to rebuild, replace or repair YOUR property after a storm and they have no obligation to do so.

You have no special rights just because of the color of your skin, your genitalia, your sexual orientation or anything else over which no one has any control. You do not have the right to redefine words just to make your choice of sexual partner tax deductible. You do not have the right to shove any of your uniqueness in my face. I could not care less about it most of the time.

If I work to EARN something, you do not have the "right" to have it as well just because you want it. Get off your butt and EARN it. If you try to take it from me, I have the right to fight, armed if I feel it is necessary, to keep it.

[-p.tiddy-]

The previous president actually had a major American landmark destroyed by a terrorist attack. Cut taxes and deregulated things to the point that it led to largest financial collapse of our lifetimes. Employed the use torture as a legitimate tactic. Started a war under false pretense and gave 700 billion to banks and said their can be no oversight to how that money is used.

:coleman:

Oh yea, Obama is just as bad as Bush....

Yeah right. :sleeping
Bush was awful but he has a good point...



half the country was threatening to move to France after Bush won the second time...

[longhornfan1234]

My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.
John F. Kennedy

JFK would be disgusted at today's Dem party.

[longhornfan1234]

I'd love to immigrate there LEGALLY the next day if it ever happens, but I'm not giving up on this country, we can survive four years of this socialist, I'm sure of it. . The next four years won't be pretty folks. Obama is leading us down a dangerous path. Government will get bigger, tax rates will rise on our job creators, and he will change the course of our country forever if he gets a chance to replace a conservative judge on the Supreme Court.


This. Liberals are acting like they were so cool headed in 2000/2004:rolleyes: The left was vicious calling our President a war criminal and the mainstream media was compliant.

You're a real patriot.

[Droid101]

If you work., YOU get paid, not the lazy parasites who live off the taxes stolen from your paycheck.

If you don't work to EARN what you want, you don't get it. Government doesn't steal it form your neighbor and give it to you.

The government is LIMITED in what it can do by the powers granted by the Constitution of the United States. It is NOT here to feed, clothe, house and medicate you when you are too lazy to get off your butt and work to earn what you need.

People are held responsible for the consequences of their own actions and choices and reap the rewards of those same actions. These include choices to smoke, drink alcohol, be fat, a junkie, a sexual animal with no control, a baby factory or a criminal by being in this country illegally.

I choose what charities I support and IF I support them.

If you CHOOSE to live in disaster prone areas, YOU also choose to accept the consequences. You don't have the right to tell taxpayers across the country they have to pay to rebuild, replace or repair YOUR property after a storm and they have no obligation to do so.

You have no special rights just because of the color of your skin, your genitalia, your sexual orientation or anything else over which no one has any control. You do not have the right to redefine words just to make your choice of sexual partner tax deductible. You do not have the right to shove any of your uniqueness in my face. I could not care less about it most of the time.

If I work to EARN something, you do not have the "right" to have it as well just because you want it. Get off your butt and EARN it. If you try to take it from me, I have the right to fight, armed if I feel it is necessary, to keep it.
You want a place with no taxes and no government intervention in your life and no handouts for poor welfare queens?

http://socialevolutionforum.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/somalia.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_vX0vETVwUI0/TNd1IfTLvRI/AAAAAAAAAGo/he7L2fltzdQ/s1600/Somalia.jpg

[Godzuki]

Yeah the lunatic fringe has come out loud which is good imo because they expose their stupidity and essentially shoot whatever "movement" they had in the foot.

I remember Democrats in 2004 threatening to move to Canada and arrest Bush and Cheney for war crimes. It'll die down soon.


well i was never a part of that far left thought altho i did have major issues with how secretive and shady Bush/Cheney were and how they made statements that we don't torture, then later tried to classify waterboarding as not torture. they were basically lying thru their teeth to all of America to the point it was insulting.

if they should've been arrested or impeached it should've been because of that. and lol @ Clinton getting impeached over lying about having a BJ by the vindictively fanatical Repubs :facepalm

[Jailblazers7]

My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.
John F. Kennedy

JFK would be disgusted at today's Dem party.

JFK was a pretty bad president.

[DonDadda59]

If you work., YOU get paid, not the lazy parasites who live off the taxes stolen from your paycheck.

If you don't work to EARN what you want, you don't get it. Government doesn't steal it form your neighbor and give it to you.

The government is LIMITED in what it can do by the powers granted by the Constitution of the United States. It is NOT here to feed, clothe, house and medicate you when you are too lazy to get off your butt and work to earn what you need.

People are held responsible for the consequences of their own actions and choices and reap the rewards of those same actions. These include choices to smoke, drink alcohol, be fat, a junkie, a sexual animal with no control, a baby factory or a criminal by being in this country illegally.

I choose what charities I support and IF I support them.

If you CHOOSE to live in disaster prone areas, YOU also choose to accept the consequences. You don't have the right to tell taxpayers across the country they have to pay to rebuild, replace or repair YOUR property after a storm and they have no obligation to do so.

You have no special rights just because of the color of your skin, your genitalia, your sexual orientation or anything else over which no one has any control. You do not have the right to redefine words just to make your choice of sexual partner tax deductible. You do not have the right to shove any of your uniqueness in my face. I could not care less about it most of the time.

If I work to EARN something, you do not have the "right" to have it as well just because you want it. Get off your butt and EARN it. If you try to take it from me, I have the right to fight, armed if I feel it is necessary, to keep it.

Tell em why you're really mad :roll:

So basically you and your militia buddies are going to duke it out with the military to make sure the guh'ment stops giving hand outs to illegal aliens, welfare recipients, and hurricane victims? You really need to get more fresh air, seriously.

[Rasheed1]

If you work., YOU get paid, not the lazy parasites who live off the taxes stolen from your paycheck.

If you don't work to EARN what you want, you don't get it. Government doesn't steal it form your neighbor and give it to you.

The government is LIMITED in what it can do by the powers granted by the Constitution of the United States. It is NOT here to feed, clothe, house and medicate you when you are too lazy to get off your butt and work to earn what you need.

People are held responsible for the consequences of their own actions and choices and reap the rewards of those same actions. These include choices to smoke, drink alcohol, be fat, a junkie, a sexual animal with no control, a baby factory or a criminal by being in this country illegally.

I choose what charities I support and IF I support them.

If you CHOOSE to live in disaster prone areas, YOU also choose to accept the consequences. You don't have the right to tell taxpayers across the country they have to pay to rebuild, replace or repair YOUR property after a storm and they have no obligation to do so.

You have no special rights just because of the color of your skin, your genitalia, your sexual orientation or anything else over which no one has any control. You do not have the right to redefine words just to make your choice of sexual partner tax deductible. You do not have the right to shove any of your uniqueness in my face. I could not care less about it most of the time.

If I work to EARN something, you do not have the "right" to have it as well just because you want it. Get off your butt and EARN it. If you try to take it from me, I have the right to fight, armed if I feel it is necessary, to keep it.


You dont understand sh*t about America... I hope you are stupid enough to go against the military or secede or whatever dumb idea you and your friends come up with..


you live in fantasy world... You'd thin the election would have snapped you out of it, but nope...

righties love the motto "America love it or Leave it" ..... I you need to take your own advice and get out if you dont like here...


Dont let the door hit ya on the way out because no will miss all this bullsh*t these idiots bring to the table

[raiderfan19]

I absolutely love Texas. I'm incredibly proud to be a Texan and I'd never want ti live anywhere else. This obviously isn't really happening but if it somehow did, id move to somewhere that was actually in the us. I'm still an American before I'm a Texan

[-p.tiddy-]

I absolutely love Texas. I'm incredibly proud to be a Texan and I'd never want ti live anywhere else. This obviously isn't really happening but if it somehow did, id move to somewhere that was actually in the us. I'm still an American before I'm a Texan
The ONLY thing I truly dislike about Texas is the overly hot summers...summer time can be a drag when it is 100+ degrees for weeks

other than that...love it, don't want to be anywhere else

[raiderfan19]

The ONLY thing I truly dislike about Texas is the overly hot summers...summer time can be a drag when it is 100+ degrees for weeks

other than that...love it, don't want to be anywhere else
Me neither but if it came to a choice between being an American or a Texan? It's an easy choice. There is no chance these idiots get this done though.

[-p.tiddy-]

Me neither but if it came to a choice between being an American or a Texan? It's an easy choice. There is no chance these idiots get this done though.
same here...I'd move as well

but I have never heard anyone I know talking about this...to me it's a complete joke, shouldn't be taken seriously at all...tabloid shit

[Jailblazers7]

US gov would just impose tariffs on all goods coming out of Texas and destroy their economy.

[Bucket_Nakedz]

do it obama, do it!!! :banana: :banana: :banana:

[-p.tiddy-]

do it obama, do it!!! :banana: :banana: :banana:
he would have to answer to the other 25 MILLION of us that don't want to secede :oldlol:

[Bucket_Nakedz]

he would have to answer to the other 25 MILLION of us that don't want to secede :oldlol:
while the rest of the nation are like...
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/24815609.jpg

[-p.tiddy-]

Texas is not the only state doing this...

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57548572/states-petition-to-secede-from-union/

All told, petitions have been filed on behalf of 20 states: Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oregon, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Texas.

[Math2]

http://blogs.covchurch.org/acmark/files/2012/09/question-31842991.jpeg

Define progressive for me then.

[Rasheed1]

Texas is not the only state doing this...

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57548572/states-petition-to-secede-from-union/


Alabama?Louisiana?Mississippi?S.Carolina? :roll:

What's Alabama gonna do when the next diaster strikes and they need government assistance?

this is a joke... alot of these states wouldnt last a month on their own..

[-p.tiddy-]

Alabama?Louisiana?Mississippi?S.Carolina? :roll:

What's Alabama gonna do when the next diaster strikes and they need government assistance?

this is a joke... alot of these states wouldnt last a month on their own..
and New York though



it sounds to me like though Texas is getting all the attention because it is the only state that has the economy to pull it off...other states like Cali are in the hole and couldn't possibly do it

either way it shouldn't be taken seriously though

[LJJ]

and New York though



it sounds to me like though Texas is getting all the attention because it is the only state that has the economy to pull it off...other states like Cali are in the hole and couldn't possibly do it

either way it shouldn't be taken seriously though

Or maybe it's because the Texas petition has 10 times as many votes as the one in New York.

[Real Men Wear Green]

I'm thinking about launching a new career as a right-wing hack. These guys make a lot of money. And they're having less and less of an effect on people's thinking, so there's little harm. Launching the secession attempt here in Massachusetts would be a good start.

[-p.tiddy-]

Or maybe it's because the Texas petition has 10 times as many votes as the one in New York.
yeah and 10x the population as well

all that is needed is 20k votes and all those states have that

if those other states where as enormous as Texas they would have as many votes

[LJJ]

yeah and 10x the population as well

all that is needed is 20k votes and all those states have that

if those other states where as enormous as Texas they would have as many votes

I thought New York and Texas were pretty close?

Either way, the Texas poll is by far the most popular secession petition and by far the most popular petition overall. Even if it's due to Texas' size in comparison to the other states, obviously it's still the most striking one at first glance. Texas is nr 1, the other states are somewhere below the legalize marijuana petition.

[Is He Ill]

I thought New York and Texas were pretty close?

Either way, the Texas poll is by far the most popular secession petition and by far the most popular petition overall. Even if it's due to Texas' size in comparison to the other states, obviously it's still the most striking one at first glance. Texas is nr 1, the other states are somewhere below the legalize marijuana petition.

A lot of people signing that petition aren't even from Texas.

[LJJ]

A lot of people signing that petition aren't even from Texas.

They are signing it because they don't want Texas to be part of the country? :oldlol:

That's cold blooded.

[Is He Ill]

They are signing it because they don't want Texas to be part of the country? :oldlol:

That's cold blooded.

I guess so. :lol Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of idiotic Texans signing that petition. That being said, many of the signatures are indeed from outside of the state.

[-p.tiddy-]

I guess so. :lol Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of idiotic Texans signing that petition. That being said, many of the signatures are indeed from outside of the state.
ha the internet

this went viral

[-p.tiddy-]

I thought New York and Texas were pretty close?

Either way, the Texas poll is by far the most popular secession petition and by far the most popular petition overall. Even if it's due to Texas' size in comparison to the other states, obviously it's still the most striking one at first glance. Texas is nr 1, the other states are somewhere below the legalize marijuana petition.
If you read the article it all points to Texas' economy being the main reason...I can't even find New Yorks vote total compared to Texas

and there are 25m people in Texas....8m in New York

[Jailblazers7]

If you read the article it all points to Texas' economy being the main reason...I can't even find New Yorks vote total compared to Texas

and there are 25m people in Texas....8m in New York

No, there are 8m people in NYC but 19-20m in the state.

[-p.tiddy-]

No, there are 8m people in NYC but 19-20m in the state.
okay, so they are close I guess

[-p.tiddy-]

http://www.bizjournals.com/bizjournals/on-numbers/scott-thomas/2012/06/californias-population-passes-38.html

and Texas up to 26m already...1 mill gained over just two years...:/

[Dbrog]

This is stupid and makes me ashamed to live in Texas. Anyway, just hope everyone realizes that 80k signatures still means these are the views of a VERY small majority of Texans. I mean, San Antonio alone has like 1.5 million people living in it. Now we just know that there are 80 thousand dumb-asses somewhere in Texas (imagine that). One is probably the dude outside my apt with trucknuts on his F150. :facepalm

[Loneshot]

This is the state folks are calling the best in the country?

[Rose]

This is the state folks are calling the best in the country?
In all fairness, EVERY state has a petition like this now, and I think several are now over 25K.

[Dbrog]

US gov would just impose tariffs on all goods coming out of Texas and destroy their economy.

Wouldn't matter. The drug cartels would have already moved in a taken over Texas. The ones who sign this petition seem to be under the impression that the cartels either don't exist, or that they can easily be overpowered with the shotgun in their closet :roll:

[bladefd]

Rofl, this is hilarious. They will NEVER get enough votes from rest of Texas to secede from USA. Who cares about 80,000 votes? If you want to leave, you're free to leave the country. No need to try to take down others with you. Go someplace where you think you will be better off. Just don't come back crying when you realize that nowhere else is like here, spoiled ignorant brats.


:oldlol:

[-p.tiddy-]

Wouldn't matter. The drug cartels would have already moved in a taken over Texas. The ones who sign this petition seem to be under the impression that the cartels either don't exist, or that they can easily be overpowered with the shotgun in their closet :roll:
Texas is a huge % of the US military though...

[dunksby]

Why are you all even discussing it? this is obviously a joke.

[D-Rose]

Texas is a huge % of the US military though...
Obviously if a secession took place the US would withdraw most if not all of its military.

These people are petitioning to the wrong folks! If you're serious...petition to the state government to have a referendum or prop to vote on this in the next elections. That's the only way to do it.

[-p.tiddy-]

Obviously if a secession took place the US would withdraw most if not all of its military.

These people are petitioning to the wrong folks! If you're serious...petition to the state government to have a referendum or prop to vote on this in the next elections. That's the only way to do it.
was just sayin, if *hypothetical* this actually happened Texas would have more than enough people to start it's own military...

[dunksby]

How many foreign governments, private firms etc do you think go to their trade partners because they are situated in Texas? You think the matter of seceding from the US is something in the hands of the people? This report can only be a joke report to troll on the organizers of such idiotic petitions.

[Dbrog]

Texas is a huge % of the US military though...

Cartels would shite on military people too. They have all these crazy guerrilla tactics which the military couldn't handle in Vienam. Not only that, but there is too much money to throw around. You really think Texans would turn down thousands of $$$ in bribes? There's a reason we haven't got involved with Mexico.

[TheAnchorman]

If this ever actually happens, the GOP can kiss 38 free electoral votes goodbye.

[-p.tiddy-]

Cartels would shite on military people too. They have all these crazy guerrilla tactics which the military couldn't handle in Vienam. Not only that, but there is too much money to throw around. You really think Texans would turn down thousands of $$$ in bribes? There's a reason we haven't got involved with Mexico.
no dude :facepalm Texans could accept bribes RIGHT NOW if they wanted, you think being a part of the US has prevented them from taking over Texas ? lol

Like all they need is for Texas to secede and they will suddenly be able to flood the state over?

Cartels are pretty much limited to machine guns...they couldn't handle an actual military complete with missiles and such lol

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Cartels would shite on military people too. They have all these crazy guerrilla tactics which the military couldn't handle in Vienam. Not only that, but there is too much money to throw around. You really think Texans would turn down thousands of $$$ in bribes? There's a reason we haven't got involved with Mexico.
bro, do yourself a favor and turn the fcking tv off.

[D-Rose]

was just sayin, if *hypothetical* this actually happened Texas would have more than enough people to start it's own military...
It's not a matter of people or guns. Texas has plenty of those but those only get you a militia.

A military consists of far more technology, resources, weaponry, aircraft, ships, etc

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

It's not a matter of people or guns. Texas has plenty of those but those only get you a militia.

A military consists of far more technology, resources, weaponry, aircraft, ships, etc
even if texas seceded, the united states military isn't going to let the cartel take over texas. it's just not going to happen. i'm in fort hood right now, trust me, they don't have anywhere to place these troops outside of texas.

[-p.tiddy-]

It's not a matter of people or guns. Texas has plenty of those but those only get you a militia.

A military consists of far more technology, resources, weaponry, aircraft, ships, etc
we would have that tech...


I'm sure there would be a huge debate over weather or not we get nukes lol...but we would have all that tech, and enough resources to still be somewhat powerful, perhaps even a top-10 army in the world still, idk, the US has spent a lot in military and a decent chunk of that would carry over.

[D-Rose]

we would have that tech...


I'm sure there would be a huge debate over weather or not we get nukes lol...but we would have all that tech, and enough resources to still be somewhat powerful, perhaps even a top-10 army in the world still, idk, the US has spent a lot in military and a decent chunk of that would carry over.
:roll:

So you think the U.S. wouldn't take its technology, its weapons, its ships, its planes, etc? You think that the US would help fund a new Texan military too? Ironically, Texans would be taxed out of their asses to form a competent military.

I can't agree that the U.S. would provide resources and funding even if this was a peaceful venture. There would be some cooperation because of the economic ties and such, but military? Get out of here!

[-p.tiddy-]

:roll:

So you think the U.S. wouldn't take its technology, its weapons, its ships, its planes, etc? You think that the US would help fund a new Texan military too? Ironically, Texans would be taxed out of their asses to form a competent military.

I can't agree that the U.S. would provide resources and funding even if this was a peaceful venture. There would be some cooperation because of the economic ties and such, but military? Get out of here!
okay this debate is turning silly now but obviously it would be a peaceful split...and even if the US insisted of stripping out all the hardware WE STILL HAVE THE TECH, like I was said...it isn't like they can remove the technology to build missiles and tanks from us...

[Derka]

lol, what a bunch of dunces.

I'm pretty sure the other 47 continental states would love the federal money that would otherwise have spent in Texas to go somewhere other than the sinkhole that is the US/Mexico border. Pull every single federal asset out of the state and let a bunch of good ol' boys and girls defend their state from drug cartels and fence-jumpers. See how quick they're asking back in to the union.

This kind of stuff is why the world laughs at us.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

it would be a huge security risk to the entire united states if the u.s. military didn't continue protecting texas.

[D-Rose]

okay this debate is turning silly now but obviously it would be a peaceful split...and even if the US insisted of stripping out all the hardware WE STILL HAVE THE TECH, like I was said...it isn't like they can remove the technology to build missiles and tanks from us...
See that's where it gets blurry on how certain companies would be moderated if their HQ are in the US and not TX.

But such technology requires massive amounts of money and also time.

[daily]

lol, what a bunch of dunces.

I'm pretty sure the other 47 continental states would love the federal money that would otherwise have spent in Texas to go somewhere other than the sinkhole that is the US/Mexico border. Pull every single federal asset out of the state and let a bunch of good ol' boys and girls defend their state from drug cartels and fence-jumpers. See how quick they're asking back in to the union.

This kind of stuff is why the world laughs at us.
The flip side of that coin is all the money Texans pay in taxes wouldn't be going to the Federal Government

Texas business's and people are huge contributors of taxes to the US

[D-Rose]

The flip side of that coin is all the money Texans pay in taxes wouldn't be going to the Federal Government

Texas business's and people are huge contributors of taxes to the US
But let's not forget that many of those people would leave Texas in this case. People in the cities are far more liberal and sane than the wilderness and country rednecks here. It's the reason why such a referendum would never even get voted yes on.

[-p.tiddy-]

See that's where it gets blurry on how certain companies would be moderated if their HQ are in the US and not TX.

But such technology requires massive amounts of money and also time.
money? if you read the article you noticed that Texas is the 15th largest economy in the world...you think that type of money is incapable of a decent military?...esp being full of people that already have the know how to create jets/ships/etc?

Obviously the US would allow us to have hardware for our military (what are they going to say, "you aren't allowed to have jet planes!!!"?), the only think I can see being a legit issue is a nukes, and if we were to split on very friendly terms I wouldn't even rule that out completely...

[Derka]

The flip side of that coin is all the money Texans pay in taxes wouldn't be going to the Federal Government

Texas business's and people are huge contributors of taxes to the US

Well there's certainly two sides to the coin when you're the second most populous state in the union. That being said...this idea seems ridiculously short-sighted.

[daily]

But let's not forget that many of those people would leave Texas in this case. People in the cities are far more liberal and sane than the wilderness and country rednecks here. It's the reason why such a referendum would never even get voted yes on.:lol it's not like it's actually going to happen

just found a deal, in 2005 the feds gave Texas 94 cents for every dollar it received from the state, so in fact in 2005 Texas sent out more than it took back.

[D-Rose]

money? if you read the article you noticed that Texas is the 15th largest economy in the world...you think that type of money is incapable of a decent military?...esp being full of people that already have the know how to create jets/ships/etc?

Obviously the US would allow us to have hardware for our military (what are they going to say, "you aren't allowed to have jet planes!!!"?), the only think I can see being a legit issue is a nukes, and if we were to split on very friendly terms I wouldn't even rule that out completely...
Using the fact that Texas' current GDP would be the 15th largest in the world as saying that it would have the 15th greatest economy is extremely naive and short sighted at best :roll: :applause:

There are no trade partners, investors, economic aid,etc to begin with. Do you expect immediate entry into the WTO, World Bank, IMF?

[Brujesino]

Happens every four years.Happen to in the Bush years too.Wont happen so who cares.

[-p.tiddy-]

Using the fact that Texas' current GDP would be the 15th largest in the world as saying that it would have the 15th greatest economy is extremely naive and short sighted at best :roll: :applause:

There are no trade partners, investors, economic aid,etc to begin with. Do you expect immediate entry into the WTO, World Bank, IMF?
Why wouldn't we have trade partners, investors, etc?

[daily]

So you think the U.S. wouldn't take its technology, its weapons, its ships, its planes, etc? You think that the US would help fund a new Texan military too?



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[LA Lakers]

Some of yall have never been homeless. That whole pick yourself up by your own bootstraps mentality is bullshit. Doesnt work in real world 101. Everyone needs a helping hand in the community/country- whether its friends, family, government, church, rehab clinic, shelter etc etc etc. Human beings cant survive on their own. We are not adept to it. Its not in our species nature to go it alone. No man is an island unto himself love thy neighbor as thyself etc etc etc. Class warfare is a losing battle strategy and its gonna **** us all. And I cant stand this passive aggressive ***** shit. Admit it yall cant stand that he beat white men twice. Fear of a black planet... Let Texas secede **** em. If it wasnt for California and all the taxes we put in to the federal government none of these shit kicker states would survive anyways. Republicans are fighting against history. They cant except that its not the 1950s anymore. The country is more diverse. If you cant embrace diversity and culture at least accept it. You got a black man running things for four more years. Deal with it.

[raiderfan19]

even if texas seceded, the united states military isn't going to let the cartel take over texas. it's just not going to happen. i'm in fort hood right now, trust me, they don't have anywhere to place these troops outside of texas.
My best friend is at ft hood

[KevinNYC]

That tactic led to Obama's greatest foreign policy achievement. Just sayin.

Rufus, this is utter bullshit. Post your evidence.

[Dbrog]

no dude :facepalm Texans could accept bribes RIGHT NOW if they wanted, you think being a part of the US has prevented them from taking over Texas ? lol

Like all they need is for Texas to secede and they will suddenly be able to flood the state over?

Cartels are pretty much limited to machine guns...they couldn't handle an actual military complete with missiles and such lol

You don't think they do accept bribes already? Clearly you have never been to a bordertown :lol . They would suddenly flood the state if TX seceded? You could bet your house on it. People don't realize how political the cartels are. Hell, they have their own govt under their control (more of an understanding really). If you think Cartels are limited to only machine guns, you seriously are just ignorant. They have missile launchers and shit. Not only that, they don't even have to use these weapons.

If they want you, they have millions of people who they can send at you. Didn't you hear about them taking that dude from reddit when he threatened to give out names of prominent cartel members? It only took them a couple of days to do it. Now, they released him with pressure from the US govt (though there was likely a trade involved). If you guys doubt the power of the cartels because you think it's just "tv garbage," I feel sorry for the small box you live in. My gf is from Mexico city and even though it is one of the safer places in Mexico, I hear about all the shite that goes down there all the time. You guys shouldn't speak on things you don't know about. There's a reason why the cartels aren't even discussed by our government.

Texas would stand no chance unless the US govt still protected them.

edit: btw, just 18 hours ago in El Paso (http://www.startribune.com/nation/179349061.html?refer=y).

[-p.tiddy-]

you're a fckin idiot...wow

[KevinNYC]

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8337/8186301245_b0d135fc77.jpg

lot's of folks getting in on the petition game.

[Lakers Legend#32]

The White House does not need to acknowledge the ignorance of white trash Texas.

[iggy>]

December 1st: Texas officially secedes from the US.

December 2nd:

http://i.imgur.com/Q72mb.jpg
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