Damian Lillard

[RRR3]

Dat Clutch :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[MTing]

No game thread? This is a great game.
Hardens gonna hit the tie

[Beatlezz]

Deron Lillard!:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[MTing]

MARCUS MORRIS?!:bowdown:

[Beatlezz]

inb4 Lillard game winning shot.

[R.I.P.]

Batum/Lillard have gone crazy for Portland in the 2nd half to come back from 16 down.

[Beatlezz]

Damn.

[Myth]

The spirit of Brandon Roy lives on in Lillard. :bowdown:

We can still lose this game, but I will sleep well knowing the Blazers are in good hands.

[Shepseskaf]

Lillard is just torching Lin.

[Beatlezz]

at least he didn't air ball it. :lol

[R.I.P.]

Nice I got three fantasy guys in this game. Just keep going till they all have a triple double. :roll:

[UtahJazzFan88]

League Pass completely misses the final 11 seconds of the game, great... :facepalm

[IGotACoolStory]

My stream froze with 4.9 seconds left :rant

Lil is waiting for me to watch to hit the game winner. He got this in OT.

[kurt_rambis]

awww

[KG215]

22-5-5 for the rook on 7/15 shooting.

[Notorious D.M.C]

overtimeeeeeeeeeeee

[Myth]

Batum/Lillard have gone crazy for Portland in the 2nd half to come back from 16 down.

Easily the most entertaining Blazer game of the season. And their 2nd time in overtime with the Rockets this season. I love this game. :applause:

[shoops]

Lillard is just torching Lin.
Nope. He got that one, but he hasn't scored many on Lin so far.

[RRR3]

Pleezebelieve: "Waiters>Lillard"

:roll:

[Shepseskaf]

Nope. He got that one, but he hasn't scored many on Lin so far.
Down the stretch, Lin was just flailing away and getting burned. That's why Douglas was on Lillard on the final shot.

[shoops]

Down the stretch, Lin was just flailing away and getting burned. That's why Douglas was on Lillard on the final shot.
Nah, Lillard scored more points on Douglas, Lin did a decent job on Lillard for most of the game.

Lillard is cold blooded though jesus

[MTing]

This guy is cold blooded.

[RRR3]

Harden :bowdown:

[RRR3]

Holy shit Lillard da GAWD :bowdown:

[Beatlezz]

DA GOAT! :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[MTing]

Did the Portland announcer just ask if its the grey line or the black line?:biggums:

[RRR3]

Wow this is insane.

[Shepseskaf]

Nah, Lillard scored more points on Douglas, Lin did a decent job on Lillard for most of the game.
Defensive and offensive liability. Stop making excuses.

[RRR3]

Did Lin get benched?

[shoops]

Defensive and offensive liability. Stop making excuses.
Watch the whole game.

[Whoah10115]

Defensive and offensive liability. Stop making excuses.



So you're just gonna disregard what's actually happened and consider it as an excuse? He just told you.

[Shepseskaf]

Watch the whole game.
I was watching the Knicks game. But I know what my eyes are telling me.

[shoops]

I was watching the Knicks game. But I know what my eyes are telling me.
:roll: Wow.

[RRR3]

Aldridge :bowdown:

[Myth]

Batum, Aldridge, Lillard :bowdown:

[shoops]

:facepalm Rockets end game offense

Owned by the blazers in Ot again

[inclinerator]

cant believe lin isnt in right now

[Shepseskaf]

:roll: Wow.
What do you mean, "wow"? Look who's not in the game in crunch time. Toney f'ing Douglas is getiting Lin's minutes.

What does that tell you about what the coaching staff feels? If they were confident in his defense, he'd be playing.

[MTing]

Crazy sequence

[Whoah10115]

What do you mean, "wow"? Look who's not in the game in crunch time. Toney f'ing Douglas is getiting Lin's minutes.

What does that tell you about what the coaching staff feels? If they were confident in his defense, he'd be playing.



You can't tell them what they've been watching. I saw the end of the game and he did great. 11/11/6/1/2/3turnovers.

[Myth]

Great game :applause:

[RoseCity07]

Batum most improved player of the year, and are we gonna act like Lillard isn't a lock for ROY?

[shoops]

What do you mean, "wow"? Look who's not in the game in crunch time. Toney f'ing Douglas is getiting Lin's minutes.

What does that tell you about what the coaching staff feels? If they were confident in his defense, he'd be playing.
I'm saying wow because you're using marginal "evidence" to justify your statement.

That tells you that the coaching staff doesn't feel Lin is up to scratch in crunch time. Airball the other day probably influenced them. However, it's quite plain that this caused the terrible offensive sequence by the Rockets at the end. Just awful.

Toney Douglas provides more pressure on the offensive player, but he's not the better defender definitively. In today's game Lillard scored more on Douglas.

[Shepseskaf]

You can't tell them what they've been watching. I saw the end of the game and he did great. 11/11/6/1/2/3turnovers.
"He did great"? What kind of analysis is that?

Another bad shooting night (3-8) and isn't trusted in crunch time defensively. Like I said before, offensive and defensive liability.

[FindingTim]

Batum putting up some monster well-rounded stat lines, Lillard making me feel great about my Lillard + Irving for D-Wade fantasy swap.

[RRR3]

Batum most improved player of the year, and are we gonna act like Lillard isn't a lock for ROY?
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7948936&postcount=3

Quiet, fairweather fan.

[Beatlezz]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7948936&postcount=3

Quiet, fairweather fan.

:lol :lol

[Shepseskaf]

In today's game Lillard scored more on Douglas.
I'd be willing to bet that's bevcause Douglas was on Lillard far more than Lin was. If Lin was the primary defender, he would have gotten lit up.

[shoops]

Damn, Batum was unconscious today... single-handedly brought the blazers back in the game. And Lillard has a great shot and ice in his veins, just deadly.


I'd be willing to bet that's bevcause Douglas was on Lillard far more than Lin was. If Lin was the primary defender, he would have gotten lit up.
Please, enough of these conjectures. A possible reason they didn't think Lin was ok for OT was because last game against the blazers he overhelped and got burned by Lillard in OT. However, he took much fewer gambles in help defense today.

[wally_world]

How long before his inevitable career-ending knee injury? (i kid)

[Myth]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7948936&postcount=3

Quiet, fairweather fan.

He is a Blazer fan, not a Batum fan. Not everybody on ISH only obsesses over individuals.

I myself didn't like Batum's contract. But for the sake of my Blazers, I want Batum to make me eat the most delicious crow of all.

[RoseCity07]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7948936&postcount=3

Quiet, fairweather fan.

I stand by the comment. This Rockets defense is horrible, almost as bad as ours. When he does this on the Heat or Thunder then I'll know he has the potential to be something really special. He doesn't deserve the hype yet.

All I said was that I think he'll be ROY. How is that being a fairweather fan? His stat lines are consistently better than his closest rival (Anthony Davis) in the race.

[Rekindled]

I'd be willing to bet that's bevcause Douglas was on Lillard far more than Lin was. If Lin was the primary defender, he would have gotten lit up.

you'd lose then. lillard scored 16 of his 27 points during end of the 4th and in OT when he was guarded by Douglas.

Lin played more 36 minutes, douglas 24 min.

do the math

[shoops]

He is a Blazer fan, not a Batum fan. Not everybody on ISH only obsesses over individuals.

I myself didn't like Batum's contract. But for the sake of my Blazers, I want Batum to make me eat the most delicious crow of all.
Has he been on fire often recently? Or just these 2 rockets games :lol

His blocks were pretty huge.

[Shepseskaf]

you'd lose then. lillard scored 16 of his 27 points during end of the 4th and in OT when he was guarded by Douglas.

Lin played more 36 minutes, douglas 24 min.

do the math
Its not a matter of math, who was guarding whom? Was Lin the primary defender on Lillard for most of the time on the floor?

[Rekindled]

Its not a matter of math, who was guarding whom? Was Lin the primary defender on Lillard for most of the time on the floor?

Lillard was 3-9 for 9 points against Lin, 6-9 for 18 points against douglas

[RRR3]

He is a Blazer fan, not a Batum fan. Not everybody on ISH only obsesses over individuals.

I myself didn't like Batum's contract. But for the sake of my Blazers, I want Batum to make me eat the most delicious crow of all.
He was talking about Lillard :biggums:

[TheAesirsFinest]

What do you mean, "wow"? Look who's not in the game in crunch time. Toney f'ing Douglas is getiting Lin's minutes.

What does that tell you about what the coaching staff feels? If they were confident in his defense, he'd be playing.

I am laughing in agony right now. I'll be frank: you don't know what the **** you're talking about, citing our coaching staff as a credible source. They made so many errors in the 4th and OT that I can't even remember them all, but I can still list off 5 errors attributable to them.

1) We kept getting burned by pick and rolls. No change in how we defended them.
2) Harden went for a transition lay-up while our other players were walking past half court, waiting for our coaches to call time-out.
3) Douglas over Lin. Holy shit, this was laughable. Douglas shot like 3 shots in OT that were all bad looks.
4) Not calling time out when we had the rebound with 9 seconds to go, letting the Blazers foul us with 1.7 seconds to go when we're down 3 points.
5) Letting Harden iso and lose the ball several times.

This was one of the worst displays of coaching I have ever seen.

[shoops]

Its not a matter of math, who was guarding whom? Was Lin the primary defender on Lillard for most of the time on the floor?
Yes he was, until the end. To the eye Toney Douglas looks like a lockdown defender because he constantly pesters his opponent. However, it's misleading, because in today's game, Lin was doing a better job on Lillard according to the stats. The ole eye check is not infallible.

[Shepseskaf]

Lillard was 3-9 for 9 points against Lin, 6-9 for 18 points against douglas
If this is accurate, then it presents a somewhat different picture. I still don't like what I saw from him down the stretch.

[Shepseskaf]

I am laughing in agony right now. I'll be frank: you don't know what the **** you're talking about, citing our coaching staff as a credible source.
I didn't see the whole game; only the end. But coaches should know their personnel, and I take it as significant that Lin wasn't on the floor when the game was being decided.

I don't think there's much to debate about that.

Sampson has never impressed me as a very capable coach, though. I'm shocked that he's in an 'acting' HC position now.

[Whoah10115]

"He did great"? What kind of analysis is that?

Another bad shooting night (3-8) and isn't trusted in crunch time defensively. Like I said before, offensive and defensive liability.



Like you said before and like you'll keep saying, regardless of his progress.

[TheAesirsFinest]

I didn't see the whole game; only the end. But coaches should know their personnel, and I take it as significant that Lin wasn't on the floor when the game was being decided.

I don't think there's much to debate about that.

Sampson has never impressed me as a very capable coach, though. I'm shocked that he's in an 'acting' HC position now.

You didn't HAVE to see the whole game. All those errors I listed...they were made in the last 4 minutes of regulation + OT.

Look, just trust me on this one: our coaching staff is sub-par at best. We have lost several games and have come close to losing several games because we rely on Harden isos in the end of the game. That won us the first two. Then teams adjusted, and he's lost the ball or missed a shot way more often than he's made a shot. We're WAY too predictable. For god's sakes, I don't think we even have a ****ing go-to play down the stretch. I've yet to see one!

****, I hate this. I love our players, but coaching is such a huge thing to me. I love seeing a superbly coached team a la the Spurs the last year, playing smart and like a well-oiled machine. We're like a bunch of rotting parts in a junkyard.

[shoops]

You didn't HAVE to see the whole game. All those errors I listed...they were made in the last 4 minutes of regulation + OT.

Look, just trust me on this one: our coaching staff is sub-par at best. We have lost several games and have come close to losing several games because we rely on Harden isos in the end of the game. That won us the first two. Then teams adjusted, and he's lost the ball or missed a shot way more often than he's made a shot. We're WAY too predictable. For god's sakes, I don't think we even have a ****ing go-to play down the stretch. I've yet to see one!

****, I hate this. I love our players, but coaching is such a huge thing to me. I love seeing a superbly coached team a la the Spurs the last year, playing smart and like a well-oiled machine. We're like a bunch of rotting parts in a junkyard.
Yes just awful. So frustrating, yet another meltdown near the conclusion of the game, ugh. Can't say I was suprised though, and it didn't help that the Blazers were hot. Heck we often close quarters poorly...just frustrating. Having Harden iso and drive in and get the ball stripped away... :rant :rant

[disel]

Lillard is just torching Lin.
The way he destroyed lin it forced the coach of the rockets to bench lin for he whole ot period.

[maybeshewill13]

This was such a fun game, especially after the first half. Lillard went into god mode down the stretch. Batum a huge second half, Aldridge a great game. Three super fun players to watch.

I still think Portland's starting 5 are one of the most fun to watch in the league. Those 3 plus Wes Matthews and JJ Hickson who has been huge on the boards this season :bowdown:

Too bad they don't have a bench..

Oh, it was awesome to see the Meyers Leonard have a great game tonight too :applause:

[RRR3]

On another note, Blazers fans, what in the blue hell is going on with Matthews at the FT line?

[RoseCity07]

This was such a fun game, especially after the first half. Lillard went into god mode down the stretch. Batum a huge second half, Aldridge a great game. Three super fun players to watch.

I still think Portland's starting 5 are one of the most fun to watch in the league. Those 3 plus Wes Matthews and JJ Hickson who has been huge on the boards this season :bowdown:

Too bad they don't have a bench..

Oh, it was awesome to see the Meyers Leonard have a great game tonight too :applause:

If Leonard was starting I think that line up is pretty fun. I like Matthews, his defense was just brilliant on Harden. The way he moves his feet, this guy can play lock down defense like I've rarely seen. It's too bad he isn't a very effective scorer.

[RRR3]

If Leonard was starting I think that line up is pretty fun. I like Matthews, his defense was just brilliant on Harden. The way he moves his feet, this guy can play lock down defense like I've rarely seen. It's too bad he isn't a very effective scorer.
How is he not an effective scorer? He's usually good for 15 on decent percentages.

[maybeshewill13]

If Leonard was starting I think that line up is pretty fun. I like Matthews, his defense was just brilliant on Harden. The way he moves his feet, this guy can play lock down defense like I've rarely seen. It's too bad he isn't a very effective scorer.
I really like Hickson's hustle on the boards this year, fun to watch. Leonard's great too. Looking forward to watch him develop. As for Wes, isn't he near the top of three point shooting this year?

[RoseCity07]

How is he not an effective scorer? He's usually good for 15 on decent percentages.

Give him the ball and he can't create consistently. He gets his best shots off of open 3's and slashing. You really can't depend on him when he tries to create his own shot or make a play. The highlight three's and great defense make him useful but he's just not someone you can give the ball to when you really need a bucket.

He's good enough to start on a team with a really good point guard, but not good enough to be a star front court player. I really like him but he's a guy that I would love coming off the bench. That would require Portland to have a better option at the 2.

[maybeshewill13]

Give him the ball and he can't create consistently. He gets his best shots off of open 3's and slashing. You really can't depend on him when he tries to create his own shot or make a play. The highlight three's and great defense make him useful but he's just not someone you can give the ball to when you really need a bucket.

He's good enough to start on a team with a really good point guard, but not good enough to be a star front court player. I really like him but he's a guy that I would love coming off the bench. That would require Portland to have a better option at the 2.

Shabazz :applause:

[RoseCity07]

I really like Hickson's hustle on the boards this year, fun to watch. Leonard's great too. Looking forward to watch him develop. As for Wes, isn't he near the top of three point shooting this year?

I just checked. He's 33rd. It's too early for that number to mean anything. JR Smith is shooting nearly 74% from 3. Wesley isn't a bad player, he just seems to be a guy you don't want shooting when Lillard, Batum, and Aldridge are out there. We have better options now.

[maybeshewill13]

I just checked. He's 33rd. It's too early for that number to mean anything. JR Smith is shooting nearly 74% from 3. Wesley isn't a bad player, he just seems to be a guy you don't want shooting when Lillard, Batum, and Aldridge are out there. We have better options now.

Yeah fair enough. He mustn't have shot well the last few games, because he was in the top 5 through 4 I think.

I could definitely see him being a productive player off the bench if you were able to get a better shot creator at the SG spot.

[RRR3]

Give him the ball and he can't create consistently. He gets his best shots off of open 3's and slashing. You really can't depend on him when he tries to create his own shot or make a play. The highlight three's and great defense make him useful but he's just not someone you can give the ball to when you really need a bucket.

He's good enough to start on a team with a really good point guard, but not good enough to be a star front court player. I really like him but he's a guy that I would love coming off the bench. That would require Portland to have a better option at the 2.
I didn't say he was a great scorer or anything, my point was is that he's a solid scorer who can get hot from downtown. Obviously he's not going to carry a team, but he's a nice option to have. What's up with his FT shooting though?

[Myth]

He was talking about Lillard :biggums:

Yeah, my bad, but the point remains the same. He isn't a fairweather fan if he consistently roots for the Blazers and the team is his main following rather than individual players.

[bdreason]

Rockets fans give your team some time. They are all young and most have never played together. You guys have looked good considering your circumstances.



As for Lillard, guy is the real deal. Yay Area represent.

[RRR3]

Yeah, my bad, but the point remains the same. He isn't a fairweather fan if he consistently roots for the Blazers and the team is his main following rather than individual players.
You're right, but I was shocked that he would think that way about Lillard is all.

[Myth]

You're right, but I was shocked that he would think that way about Lillard is all.

It shocks me as well.

[spiegel]

Anyone notice how many calls went the Blazers way?. Dick Bevetta needs to call it a day as a ref.

[Go Getter]

If Lin would have had the same game as Lillard ISH would be all over his nuts right now.

[andremiller07]

If Lin would have had the same game as Lillard ISH would be all over his nuts right now.

Lin had a break out game he scored double digits and shot above 30% :no:

[Go Getter]

Lin had a break out game he scored double digits and shot above 30% :no:
LinGawd!:bowdown:

[Djsonny]

Great game for Portland. I still think Portland should start Meyers and bring hicks on off the bench for some spark and scoring. Still give hickson starter mins but his hustle would kill most second unit centers.

[Whoah10115]

Hickson should not be starting. The guy is killing on the boards, but he cannot defend the center position to save his life. As a team defender, and holding down the paint, he's awful. Add to that, centers go buck wild on him.


You don't have to give the ball to Matthews to create anything. You have Aldridge and Lillard. You go thru them. Wes Matthews is an off-the-ball player.



Interesting stat...going into last night's game, LMA, Lillard, Batum and Matthews average exactly 16APG combined...the rest of the team, combined...3.3. Daaaaamn. Not good.

[AznTacoLover]

Chose the right game to go to! By far one of my most favorite games by the blazers what a crazy finish!

[Myth]

Lillard was so key again tonight.

About 2 minutes left in overtime, the Magic tie the game. Lillard then proceeds to take over.
These events happened on consecutive plays:
- 2 point jumper just inside the 3
- makes floater
- steals and gets the assist on the fast break
- gets another assist

Blazers suddenly up 8 with a minute left and the Magic look done. :applause:

[DuMa]

lizard is clutch