Did the Nuggets get overrated too soon?

[Clippersfan86]

Sure it's early and 4-6 isn't a hole they can't get out of. That being said most had them a top 4 seed (better than Grizzlies, Clippers and even Spurs) and analysts were guaranteeing a big leap. A few even had them as the winners of the west and number 1 seed :wtf: .

I always thought it was foolish because many teams ahead of them in the west got stronger too and Iggy isn't THAT good to take a team up an entire tier or two. When watching them so far this year they still have the same issues of not having a dependable go to scorer. On top of that Lawson who was supposedly their best player due to make a leap is playing like ass after his big contract.

Do you still think Denver will have HCA and be an elite team in the west? Or are they getting exposed as getting overhyped and overrated a bit too early? Their roster is more intact from previous seasons than the Grizzlies, Clippers and Lakers who all added multiple pieces this summer. So chemistry issues don't seem valid to me and we know most players can plug into that system right away and just play.

[bagelred]

Wait for Will The Thrill to get back............

[Whoah10115]

They've very good. I don't think they get HCA. But that's because the two LA's, SA, Memphis, OKC.



I don't think they'd beat either LA or Memphis or San Antonio. I think OKC is the weakest of the group and that, while they might even have the best player (and it's not as clear as people think) going ISO is gonna get old. Do I think Denver could beat OKC? Probably not. I really don't think they could beat the other teams.


Lawson will play better, tho we'll see if he thinks the leap. He might be a tad bit overrated, as I don't think he'll ever be top 10, but he is very good and should make an all-star team in his life. I think McGee is the guy with the ceiling tho. Maybe next year we'll see him as an all-star.


I think Denver can push any team to 7.

[Clippersfan86]

They've very good. I don't think they get HCA. But that's because the two LA's, SA, Memphis, OKC.



I don't think they'd beat either LA or Memphis or San Antonio. I think OKC is the weakest of the group and that, while they might even have the best player (and it's not as clear as people think) going ISO is gonna get old. Do I think Denver could beat OKC? Probably not. I really don't think they could beat the other teams.


Lawson will play better, tho we'll see if he thinks the leap. He might be a tad bit overrated, as I don't think he'll ever be top 10, but he is very good and should make an all-star team in his life. I think McGee is the guy with the ceiling tho. Maybe next year we'll see him as an all-star.

I forgot the McGee thing. WTF happened? The guy looked flat out dominant at times vs the Lakers frontcourt of all teams in the playoffs. Then gets fat deal, has weird rift with Karl and doesn't seem to have much impact right now outside of blocking shots. Hakeem said dude could be the next superstar center :lol . I know he's had his moments but why is he in the doghouse?

[AngelEyes]

Sure it's early and 4-6 isn't a hole they can't get out of. That being said most had them a top 4 seed (better than Grizzlies, Clippers and even Spurs) and analysts were guaranteeing a big leap. A few even had them as the winners of the west and number 1 seed :wtf: .

I always thought it was foolish because many teams ahead of them in the west got stronger too and Iggy isn't THAT good to take a team up an entire tier or two. When watching them so far this year they still have the same issues of not having a dependable go to scorer. On top of that Lawson who was supposedly their best player due to make a leap is playing like ass after his big contract.

Do you still think Denver will have HCA and be an elite team in the west? Or are they getting exposed as getting overhyped and overrated a bit too early? Their roster is more intact from previous seasons than the Grizzlies, Clippers and Lakers who all added multiple pieces this summer. So chemistry issues don't seem valid to me and we know most players can plug into that system right away and just play.

They're overrated if people thought they could be truly elite for the simple fact that they have no one who even remotely resembles a super star. They have a collection of fine players but no one dominant player. I just can't seen them contending for a western conference championship or a title without that one dominant talent. People will always refer back to the 04' Pistons but they had several all stars and border line super stars, defensively in Wallace and offensively in Billups. I also believe that team was a bit of an aberration.

[kurple]

They are playing decent at the moment.

Some of our most important players are off to a bad start (Gallo and Ty). But those will turn it around, and it have given some other guys a chance to develop (mostly Faried)

Karl's rotation (lack of trust in McGee and JHam + the 2PG lineup at all the wrong moments) and his defensive philosophy are my biggest worries. we are always killed from the 3pt line because of strongside double teaming and switching

They were overrated when some experts said 1-3 seed, but they are as good as they have been the last decade. 4-8 seed with a decent chance of advancing to the 2nd round.

[kurple]

+ we are for some reason not getting to the FT line as much this season. after leading the league in that categori for many season. and we are still playing the same style

but that will come back to normal out in the season. + our much worse FG% this season (usually lead the league in that cat as well)

i mean being on of the top team when i say leading the league i a categori

offensive rebounding have been a huge positive suprise this season. Faried/McGee/Kosta are epic at that

[Clippersfan86]

They are playing decent at the moment.

Some of our most important players are off to a bad start (Gallo and Ty). But those will turn it around, and it have given some other guys a chance to develop (mostly Faried)

Karl's rotation (lack of trust in McGee and JHam + the 2PG lineup at all the wrong moments) and his defensive philosophy are my biggest worries. we are always killed from the 3pt line because of strongside double teaming and switching

They were overrated when some experts said 1-3 seed, but they are as good as they have been the last decade. 4-8 seed with a decent chance of advancing to the 2nd round.

Good post. That's what I meant by overrated (the 1-4 seed predictions, coming out of the west etc). Obviously they are a dangerous and good team. I agree 100 percent about 4-8 seed and solid chance at 2nd round :applause: .

[Whoah10115]

I forgot the McGee thing. WTF happened? The guy looked flat out dominant at times vs the Lakers frontcourt of all teams in the playoffs. Then gets fat deal, has weird rift with Karl and doesn't seem to have much impact right now outside of blocking shots. Hakeem said dude could be the next superstar center :lol . I know he's had his moments but why is he in the doghouse?



He's not in the doghouse. He's just being used as a sub for now.


The Nuggets have the deepest team in the league. They can literally go 12 deep, with little drop-off...and I think that's the big problem. Karl is trying to juggle all of this and his rotations are not always the best. I think it's a result of the roster.


They'd be smart to trade Gallo. And they'd be smart to go after Alec Burks. But Karl likes playing big. Which is interesting, as his team is a running team. But they're big and athletic, which is scary. Burks is a difference-maker tho.

[brandonislegend]

the nuggets biggest problem from what I can see is everyone on their team needs to be set up, Lawson isn't a great shooter yet. Iggy has no 1 on 1 game same with varied and McGee. Galinari is decent but be isn't shooting well to start the season, they'll get better once they figure it out.

[All Net]

Lawson playing like shit is the big issue..

[brandonislegend]

He's not in the doghouse. He's just being used as a sub for now.


The Nuggets have the deepest team in the league. They can literally go 12 deep, with little drop-off...and I think that's the big problem. Karl is trying to juggle all of this and his rotations are not always the best. I think it's a result of the roster.


They'd be smart to trade Gallo. And they'd be smart to go after Alec Burks. But Karl likes playing big. Which is interesting, as his team is a running team. But they're big and athletic, which is scary. Burks is a difference-maker tho.

They already have Jordan Hamilton who is similar to Burks and gets no pt.

[Whoah10115]

They already have Jordan Hamilton who is similar to Burks and gets no pt.



He's not similar at all, from what I've seen. Jordan Hamilton is a shooter. Burks is a flat-out scorer.

[NuggetsFan]

I forgot the McGee thing. WTF happened? The guy looked flat out dominant at times vs the Lakers frontcourt of all teams in the playoffs. Then gets fat deal, has weird rift with Karl and doesn't seem to have much impact right now outside of blocking shots. Hakeem said dude could be the next superstar center :lol . I know he's had his moments but why is he in the doghouse?

Well there goes any credibility you had with the Nuggets. McGee has been one of the very few bright spots. Karl just doesn't want to play him, when he's been in he's made an impact tho. He's doing work off the bench for sure. He's actually looked really good offensively, shown some post moves, finishing everything near the hoop. Continues to cut down on the stupidity.

Anyways I'm not sure if you can call them overrated. Hollinger and a few people in the media had them ranked pretty highly, we've seen their picks time after time fail. Any realistic person had them in the conversation with the 2nd tier West teams, which were Clippers, Spurs, Grizzlies after L.A and OKC. Probably still too early too tell, but that's not looking true.

George Karl has really shit the bed this year. Usually the regular season is his thing but whatever reason this year he seems to be struggling. His rotations are off, his "offensive" system isn't working and the constant switching on defense has led to teams going nuts from 3 point land, again. Throw in guy's like Lawson & Gallo have worked through some major slumps and Denver's rough start is pretty pretty well explained. Lawson has always been an extremely efficient player who ran this team, right now he's extremely in efficient from everywhere. He can't hit FT's, 3's, little shots etc. Second he bounces back even a little bit, Denver looks brand new.

One thing I haven't seen alot of people mention is the schedule too. Denver has a crazy amount of games on the road. Def a team that thrives on their home floor running wild with the altitude. That could have something to do with the slow start. 7 games on the road, 5 at home. 2-1 at home so far and 2-5 away from it. Some absurd like 17 of their first 24 games will played away from Denver, so I wouldn't be surprised to see them to rip off a nice run January and throw themselves back into that 4-7 range.

Guess we'll see. Still far too early and if it continues I can honestly see Karl getting put on the hotseat.

[Kurosawa0]

They were never going to be more than a first round team anyway. Not sure why anyone thought otherwise. Would anyone really see them winning a series against the Lakers, Spurs, Thunder, Grizzlies or Clippers?

[Clippersfan86]

Well there goes any credibility you had with the Nuggets. McGee has been one of the very few bright spots. Karl just doesn't want to play him, when he's been in he's made an impact tho. He's doing work off the bench for sure. He's actually looked really good offensively, shown some post moves, finishing everything near the hoop. Continues to cut down on the stupidity.

Anyways I'm not sure if you can call them overrated. Hollinger and a few people in the media had them ranked pretty highly, we've seen their picks time after time fail. Any realistic person had them in the conversation with the 2nd tier West teams, which were Clippers, Spurs, Grizzlies after L.A and OKC. Probably still too early too tell, but that's not looking true.

George Karl has really shit the bed this year. Usually the regular season is his thing but whatever reason this year he seems to be struggling. His rotations are off, his "offensive" system isn't working and the constant switching on defense has led to teams going nuts from 3 point land, again. Throw in guy's like Lawson & Gallo have worked through some major slumps and Denver's rough start is pretty pretty well explained. Lawson has always been an extremely efficient player who ran this team, right now he's extremely in efficient from everywhere. He can't hit FT's, 3's, little shots etc. Second he bounces back even a little bit, Denver looks brand new.

One thing I haven't seen alot of people mention is the schedule too. Denver has a crazy amount of games on the road. Def a team that thrives on their home floor running wild with the altitude. That could have something to do with the slow start. 7 games on the road, 5 at home. 2-1 at home so far and 2-5 away from it. Some absurd like 17 of their first 24 games will played away from Denver, so I wouldn't be surprised to see them to rip off a nice run January and throw themselves back into that 4-7 range.

Guess we'll see. Still far too early and if it continues I can honestly see Karl getting put on the hotseat.

Hey I never claimed I watch all Nuggets games and know a bunch. Meaning I'm open to correction regarding McGee's play this year as I've only seen a handful of Nuggets games. No different than you thinking Bledsoe is an overrated role player at best.

[NuggetsFan]

Hey I never claimed I watch all Nuggets games and know a bunch. Meaning I'm open to correction regarding McGee's play this year as I've only seen a handful of Nuggets games. No different than you thinking Bledsoe is an overrated role player at best.

But Eric Bledsoe is a role player? I say he's overrated when you call him more than one. I'm fine with you calling him a really good role player that can get hot and plays excellent D.

McGee has had a good season. He's looked good out there. Karl is keeping him with Dre, his breathing, Karl being Karl is what has kept him on the bench. Not his play.

[Clippersfan86]

But Eric Bledsoe is a role player? I say he's overrated when you call him more than one. I'm fine with you calling him a really good role player that can get hot and plays excellent D.

McGee has had a good season. He's looked good out there. Karl is keeping him with Dre, his breathing, Karl being Karl is what has kept him on the bench. Not his play.

I'm glad to know it's coach and not McGee taking a step back. Do you think the Nuggets need a different coach?

[Just2McFly]

Is there ever a good time to be overrated?

[NuggetsFan]

I'm glad to know it's coach and not McGee taking a step back. Do you think the Nuggets need a different coach?

Hard to say. McGee should be getting more burn, or atleast more burn during the games he's causing havoc for opposing teams. Denver's lack of shooting right now could be fixed by more Jordan Hamilton, which Karl has finally done. Karl has lost some games this year, poorly managed this far.

Right now I'd say it's just a rough start, in a few weeks if nothing changes Denver might be forced to make a coaching change simply to change things up.

I kinda want him gone but probably biased because of Denver's poor start.

[Rubio2Gasol]

Karl Knows what he's doing. I don't see the point in firing him unless you have someone with a plan in mind.

D, Antoni would've been a pretty decent coach for this team,

[AngelEyes]

I can't understand how people can believe in a team with a definitive go to guy. A bunch of good players does not work, you need a damn star.

[andremiller07]

Gallo, Wilson Chandler and Ty have been very average, Farid is the only one playing well every game, in some ways its good they don't peak but the question is will they ever get on a run and turn it on? Im sure they will get it together they are a top 10 team in the NBA no doubt, strong bench as well it will come. They have a lot of hot and cold players like Gallo, Chandler, Javale and eventually they will get hot for a while

[HaNdLe ThE RoCk]

Nuggets have a ton of talent don't get me wrong, but as far as giving McGee that contract? Flat out stupid. I'm sorry but Nene is three times the player McGee will ever be. Ty Lawson is the key for this team. If he's playing bad, I feel like the Nuggets are playing bad but when he's hot? There is no denying he's a player that the team feeds off. Gallinari just can't stay healthy and he has a lot to prove in my book. He hasn't been shooting the ball well which scares me.

As far as Wilson Chandler, he was either good or just average in New York which is why I always called him inconsistent. He's another injury prone player that Denver has to deal with now, thank god. Hard to judge the Nuggets because of health but they really have no back to the basket low post players that can score. Faried has been the bright spot this year for them but he's a rodman type that rebounds and gets put backs, ala McGee.

I just don't see how people say Denver needs a new coach when clearly, Karl is proven in this league. Gave Randolph a pretty decent contract but he's a knucklehead lets be serious. Not getting paid much compared to the league but he is definitely overpaid for what kind of player he is. A lot of hype for this Denver team with some big contracts so we'll see how it pans out but right now, it's not looking good.

[Bigsmoke]

They're overrated if people thought they could be truly elite for the simple fact that they have no one who even remotely resembles a super star. They have a collection of fine players but no one dominant player. I just can't seen them contending for a western conference championship or a title without that one dominant talent. People will always refer back to the 04' Pistons but they had several all stars and border line super stars, defensively in Wallace and offensively in Billups. I also believe that team was a bit of an aberration.

Dude

Ben, Rasheed, Billups, and Rip are all better than anybody on the Nuggets right now.

Hell. Okur would be the Nuggets 1st option

[Whoah10115]

Dude

Ben, Rasheed, Billups, and Rip are all better than anybody on the Nuggets right now.

Hell. Okur would be the Nuggets 1st option



Disagree. Rasheed never did much of anything. Prince was better than he was on the Pistons. Ben Wallace, while a great defensive player, became overrated. Gimme some Manimal. And McGee has talent. And Lawson too, tho he'll never be as good as Chauncey. Gallo too.


Plus, look at their depth. They have room to make moves.

[NugzFan]

Nuggets have a ton of talent don't get me wrong, but as far as giving McGee that contract? Flat out stupid. I'm sorry but Nene is three times the player McGee will ever be.

mcgee is playing well. 11/6/2...much smarter, improved ft...just playing better overall. 11 million per year. 25 years old.

nene...0 ppg, 0 rpg...14 million per year. 31 years old.

nice try though.


As far as Wilson Chandler, he was either good or just average in New York which is why I always called him inconsistent. He's another injury prone player that Denver has to deal with now, thank god.

thank god denver has to deal with...

oh I get it. now I see what your deal is.


I just don't see how people say Denver needs a new coach when clearly, Karl is proven in this league. Gave Randolph a pretty decent contract but he's a knucklehead lets be serious. Not getting paid much compared to the league but he is definitely overpaid for what kind of player he is. A lot of hype for this Denver team with some big contracts so we'll see how it pans out but right now, it's not looking good.

contracts arent our problems. especially when you use randolph as an example :oldlol:

[NugzFan]

Dude

Ben, Rasheed, Billups, and Rip are all better than anybody on the Nuggets right now.

Hell. Okur would be the Nuggets 1st option

yeah...sure. :rolleyes:

[kurple]

He's not similar at all, from what I've seen. Jordan Hamilton is a shooter. Burks is a flat-out scorer.
you havent seen enough

[Y2Gezee]

Hard to say. McGee should be getting more burn, or atleast more burn during the games he's causing havoc for opposing teams. Denver's lack of shooting right now could be fixed by more Jordan Hamilton, which Karl has finally done. Karl has lost some games this year, poorly managed this far.

Right now I'd say it's just a rough start, in a few weeks if nothing changes Denver might be forced to make a coaching change simply to change things up.

I kinda want him gone but probably biased because of Denver's poor start.


Karl's firing is 5 years overdue. His business partnership and friendship with Kroenke is the only reason he's there.


His philosophy on both ends of the court are just ABSOLUTELY wrong and have been. He sucks at in game adjustments, by simply not making any, and it's apparent he checks himself out during games. It's been called out by commentators and players in the past. He quit a long time ago, may as well be fired.

He's great in practice and developing players from a technical aspect, but his diva personality doesn't help them.

[Michael_Wilbon]

The Nuggets are like the Detroit Lions. A lot of times they can be fun to watch, but they'll never be real contenders.

[clipps]

Why is this thread made by a Clipper fan? What's the agenda? I know there are Nuggets fans here that don't really care much for the Clippers but doesn't mean we have to take jabs. CF86; you representing all Clipper fans. Making posts like this make us look like a bunch off a-holes. Let's not forget where we came from. Clipper fans will not be labeled under the same list as Kobetards/Lebrontards.

[brandonislegend]

Just stick to talking about Eric Bledsoe.

[clipps]

I'm too busy being proud of the Clippers to hate on other teams. I don't even hate the Lakers that much anymore(Don't get confused, I will never like them). As long as the Clippers continue to prove that they are true contenders, I can care less what happens to any team. If the Lakers continue to get themselves out of their rut, even if Kobe scores 101, grabs 56 rebs and 35 assists in a single game, more power to them.

[NugzFan]

The Nuggets are like the Detroit Lions. A lot of times they can be fun to watch, but they'll never be real contenders.

fan of both :banghead:

[NugzFan]

Why is this thread made by a Clipper fan? What's the agenda? I know there are Nuggets fans here that don't really care much for the Clippers but doesn't mean we have to take jabs. CF86; you representing all Clipper fans. Making posts like this make us look like a bunch off a-holes. Let's not forget where we came from. Clipper fans will not be labeled under the same list as Kobetards/Lebrontards.

cf86 has always made you guys look awful.

i know most of you are much better fans than him but he just isnt doing you guys any favors.

[clipps]

cf86 has always made you guys look awful.

i know most of you are much better fans than him but he just isnt doing you guys any favors.

Agreed. I remember going at it with you a few times, but those arguments were legit because of the 06 playoffs. To post a thread about a random team for no reason is foolish. It wouldn't make sense if I started a thread bashing some random team like the Warriors or Pacers. I no reason to.

[clipps]

fan of both :banghead:

Clipper/Charger/Angel fan here. You'll get through it. Phillip Rivers can go jump off a bridge, though.

[kurple]

Nuggets have a ton of talent don't get me wrong, but as far as giving McGee that contract? Flat out stupid. I'm sorry but Nene is three times the player McGee will ever be. Ty Lawson is the key for this team. If he's playing bad, I feel like the Nuggets are playing bad but when he's hot? There is no denying he's a player that the team feeds off. Gallinari just can't stay healthy and he has a lot to prove in my book. He hasn't been shooting the ball well which scares me.

As far as Wilson Chandler, he was either good or just average in New York which is why I always called him inconsistent. He's another injury prone player that Denver has to deal with now, thank god. Hard to judge the Nuggets because of health but they really have no back to the basket low post players that can score. Faried has been the bright spot this year for them but he's a rodman type that rebounds and gets put backs, ala McGee.

I just don't see how people say Denver needs a new coach when clearly, Karl is proven in this league. Gave Randolph a pretty decent contract but he's a knucklehead lets be serious. Not getting paid much compared to the league but he is definitely overpaid for what kind of player he is. A lot of hype for this Denver team with some big contracts so we'll see how it pans out but right now, it's not looking good.
oh, it's you again.

moving on

[kurple]

broncos :rockon:

[NuggetsFan]

broncos :rockon:

Vonnn Milllaa and Peyton Manning combo for the superbowl. If only the Nuggets had a young superstar like Miller. Avalanche filled with young guns like Landeskog, Duchene, O'Reilly too.

McGee has been really impressive tho. If I could make videos I'd put one up to show people. He's been hitting his hookshots, post moves. Heck he's stepped out for a jumper or two that looked real good.

If only Gallo was consistent and non fragile. He's got the talent to be a 20ish point guy that could be our "franchise" guy but his shooting stroke is far too inconsistent and he's made out glass so you already know he's going down at some point. Lawson simply lacks the mentality similar to Nene.

[clipps]

broncos :rockon:

As a new resident of Denver, I gotta say; Broncos fans are dedicated. On Bronco games, I see almost everyone rocking that sh!t. Even I got myself a Broncos hat(sorry Chargers) that I wear unless they play the Chargers. It was not a fun night when the Chargers blew that 24-0 lead. I hope Phillip Rivers jumps off a Bridge.

[zizozain]

Why is this thread made by a Clipper fan? What's the agenda? I know there are Nuggets fans here that don't really care much for the Clippers but doesn't mean we have to take jabs. CF86; you representing all Clipper fans. Making posts like this make us look like a bunch off a-holes. Let's not forget where we came from. Clipper fans will not be labeled under the same list as Kobetards/Lebrontards.

this :applause:


I'm too busy being proud of the Clippers to hate on other teams. I don't even hate the Lakers that much anymore(Don't get confused, I will never like them). As long as the Clippers continue to prove that they are true contenders, I can care less what happens to any team. If the Lakers continue to get themselves out of their rut, even if Kobe scores 101, grabs 56 rebs and 35 assists in a single game, more power to them.

and all of this :applause: :applause:

[RoundMoundOfReb]

they're 5-6 2 of their losses came to the ex champs and they just beat the spurs on the road.

[NugzFan]

they're 5-6 2 of their losses came to the ex champs and they just beat the spurs on the road.

grizzlies. spurs beat us by 26.

both heat losses were due to late 3s...those hurt. :banghead:

[Blingster]

broncos :rockon:


No doubt!

I used to watch the Nuggets to feel better about the Broncos loosing.. Now I watch the broncos to feel better about the Nuggets :roll:

[chazzy]

Looks like they got dismissed too soon. They've been on a tear ever since their road heavy stretch ended

[goldenryan]

Nuggets are showing interest in KG :eek: Who would they trade to even salaries out though, Mcgee?

[ReturnofJPR]

Nuggets are showing interest in KG :eek: Who would they trade to even salaries out though, Mcgee?

Well they have 4 SF's playing SG and SF. Both SG's are really SF's. Trade Wilson Chandler and Corey Brewer for starters...

[garubu]

:rockon: Sitting Pretty in the 4th spot are my Nuggz.

We coming for that 3rd spot :banana:

[Sarcastic]

Nuggets are showing interest in KG :eek: Who would they trade to even salaries out though, Mcgee?


KG says no.


http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/21655752/report-kevin-garnett-wont-waive-no-trade-clause-for-deal-to-denver

[Blingster]

KG says no.


http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/21655752/report-kevin-garnett-wont-waive-no-trade-clause-for-deal-to-denver

Old news...

This "story" broke like 5 days ago.



Move along folks, nothing to see here..

[Whoah10115]

I'd trade Iguodala for Barnes, if Golden State were willing to take it. Best for both teams...Barnes is more of a SG than Iguodala is...but mostly, he's a star. That's the star the team could use, and he does play defense. And I'd be willing to trade Gallinari for another 2guard...preferably one who plays defense...a package involving Tony Allen and Tayshaun Prince doesn't sound too bad, to me.


Iguodala would also be perfect for Golden State.

[Clippersfan86]

Nuggets have no doubt bounced back nicely but are still well below the hype they got preseason. Idiots regularly talked about them winning games and multiple people said top 3 seed. Clippers get Griffin, CP3, Billups back tomorrow and the gap will expand back out for that 3 seed. Not to mention they are still in a dogfight with Memphis and GS for the 4 seed.

[Blingster]

I guess I don't understand..

Currently they are the 4th seed, people predicted the 3 seed and this overrating?

I know that we still have a long way to go, and I don't see use making the 3 seed or maintaining if we actually do get there. but the 4 seed is pretty respectable, especially in the West. If people had put us at the 3 seed in the preseason and we were fighting for a play off spot, that would be way overrating them.

[Clippersfan86]

I guess I don't understand..

Currently they are the 4th seed, people predicted the 3 seed and this overrating?

I know that we still have a long way to go, and I don't see use making the 3 seed or maintaining if we actually do get there. but the 4 seed is pretty respectable, especially in the West. If people had put us at the 3 seed in the preseason and we were fighting for a play off spot, that would be way overrating them.

Well a couple even had you winning the west and 60 games. Anyways Nuggets are what they were in previous years. A good team, threat for a top 5 seed, perennial 1st or 2nd round exit. Never quite a great time and still no dependable go to scorer down the stretch of playoff games. Although one may emerge this year, remains to be seen.

[Blingster]

Well a couple even had you winning the west and 60 games. Anyways Nuggets are what they were in previous years. A good team, threat for a top 5 seed, perennial 1st or 2nd round exit. Never quite a great time and still no dependable go to scorer down the stretch of playoff games. Although one may emerge this year, remains to be seen.

50+ wins is what Denver usually shoots for.. I personally never thought we would win 60 games.

I think this year we actually make it to the second round, if we get HCA. Regardless, I don't see us making it pass the 2nd round.

I think Gallo has emerged as "that guy" for the Nuggets.

[Clippersfan86]

50+ wins is what Denver usually shoots for.. I personally never thought we would win 60 games.

I think this year we actually make it to the second round, if we get HCA. Regardless, I don't see us making it pass the 2nd round.

I think Gallo has emerged as "that guy" for the Nuggets.

Good post and I agree. Gallo has seemed to step up a bunch lately and is your best bet in that regard. I also agree with HCA you guys absolutely can get to the second round and 50+ wins should happen. Seems like you have very realistic expectations.

[Blingster]

Good post and I agree. Gallo has seemed to step up a bunch lately and is your best bet in that regard. I also agree with HCA you guys absolutely can get to the second round and 50+ wins should happen. Seems like you have very realistic expectations.



<--- Realistic Homer :roll: :roll:

[Clippersfan86]

<--- Realistic Homer :roll: :roll:

:cheers:

[francesco totti]

they were underrated at start of year when they had tough schedule..

[NugzFan]

Nuggets have no doubt bounced back nicely but are still well below the hype they got preseason. Idiots regularly talked about them winning games and multiple people said top 3 seed. Clippers get Griffin, CP3, Billups back tomorrow and the gap will expand back out for that 3 seed. Not to mention they are still in a dogfight with Memphis and GS for the 4 seed.

Oh stfu for once. Not every thread has to involve the clippers. You sound worried :oldlol: (especially your crying on the top buzz clippers forum)

Besides no one hyped us like you said except a few idiots at espn. Don't make it like a lot of people had us 3rd. Most , including all nugget fans, had us lower than 4

[NugzFan]

I'd trade Iguodala for Barnes, if Golden State were willing to take it. Best for both teams...Barnes is more of a SG than Iguodala is...but mostly, he's a star. That's the star the team could use, and he does play defense. And I'd be willing to trade Gallinari for another 2guard...preferably one who plays defense...a package involving Tony Allen and Tayshaun Prince doesn't sound too bad, to me.


Iguodala would also be perfect for Golden State.

Barnes is a star? Gallo for prince/Allen? :roll:

So iggy/gallo for barnes/prince/Allen?

Haha no thanks

[garubu]

<--- Realistic Homer :roll: :roll:


:facepalm can't believe you fell for that fool's trap....

No Nuggets Fan on this board had the nuggets winning 60+ games. He has us confused with Laker fans. The only person overrating the Nuggets was that idiot Hollinger saying the Nuggets would be the #1 out of the West.

Besides, the Nuggets started off the NBA season with the 2nd Hardest Schedule behind the hornets according to SOS. Not to mention the Nuggets also played a NBA record Road schedule. Had the Nuggets had an easier schedule to start the season im postive we'd be in the 3rd spot in the West beating out the Clippers.

[Whoah10115]

Barnes is a star? Gallo for prince/Allen? :roll:

So iggy/gallo for barnes/prince/Allen?

Haha no thanks



Barnes is going to be a star, absolutely. He'll be better than Gallo by next year.

[Blingster]

:facepalm can't believe you fell for that fool's trap....

No Nuggets Fan on this board had the nuggets winning 60+ games. He has us confused with Laker fans. The only person overrating the Nuggets was that idiot Hollinger saying the Nuggets would be the #1 out of the West.

Besides, the Nuggets started off the NBA season with the 2nd Hardest Schedule behind the hornets according to SOS. Not to mention the Nuggets also played a NBA record Road schedule. Had the Nuggets had an easier schedule to start the season im postive we'd be in the 3rd spot in the West beating out the Clippers.


Saying that I'm a realistic homer has nothing to do with CF86..

[garubu]

Saying that I'm a realistic homer has nothing to do with CF86..

Yeah my bad i couldn't multi-quote, but the reason i quoted you was because CP86 likes to spew BS to bait other fans. So that he can include his Clippers in a non Clippers thread. It's probably best to ignore him or go the nugzfan route and tell him to stfu n gtfo. :cheers:

[Clippersfan86]

Yeah my bad i couldn't multi-quote, but the reason i quoted you was because CP86 likes to spew BS to bait other fans. So that he can include his Clippers in a non Clippers thread. It's probably best to ignore him or go the nugzfan route and tell him to stfu n gtfo. :cheers:

Baiting= any opinion you disagree with? I didn't start the thread to bait but rather ask a controversial question because the Nuggets were a .500 team or so after being called a contender by most preseason. The Nuggets have done a great job bouncing back and I gave them credit for that. Not sure how that is baiting or spewing BS.

Yes go the troll Nugzfan route and rage on everybody and be a dick all the time. Sorry but Blingster seems classier than that and you shouldn't encourage him to stop being respectful.

[Mr. Jabbar]

happens every season guys, denver the "dark horse" bla bla bbla, 1st round exit on lock

The george karl (poor mans popovich) system

[Artillery]

Nuggets need a star player and, possibly, a better coach. I can't stand George Karl. I like this team but they're not constructed for a deep playoff run, especially with Karl at the helm.

[Blingster]

Nuggets need a star player and, possibly, a better coach. I can't stand George Karl. I like this team but they're not constructed for a deep playoff run, especially with Karl at the helm.

I think the Nuggets have two "stars" in the wing.. Gallo and Faried

I agree about a deep playoff run.. Karl has never really talked about championship aspirations.. 2nd round exit this year is my guess.

[Heavincent]

I guess not.

[Michael_Wilbon]

I guess not.

:applause:

[KeyNote]

I wish I could find the thread that sparked this one

in it, I specifically said I see the Nuggets getting really hot towards the end of the year and ending up with a top seed (I think it was 2 or 3)

that being said..I also had my Lakers being the 1 seed :banghead:

[Baller1986]

George Karl for NBA Coach of the Year. Nuggets have a better record than the Lakers without having a Superstar in their official roster.

[imnew09]

George Karl for NBA Coach of the Year. Nuggets have a better record than the Lakers without having a Superstar in their official roster.

Why you gotta bring up the Lakers? How about trade Denver's bench for Lakers bench? Coach for coach too deal? if not, stfu

[Baller1986]

Why you gotta bring up the Lakers? How about trade Denver's bench for Lakers bench? deal? if not, stfu


Stop overrating the Denver Nugget's bench. The Lakers are still a more talented team than the Nuggets.

You guys lack heart, intensity, consistency, and defense. That's why the Lakers struggled againts the elite and 0.500 and above NBA Teams.

[imnew09]

Stop overrating the Denver Nugget's bench. The Lakers are still a more talented team than the Nuggets.

You guys lack heart, intensity, consistency, and defense. That's why the Lakers struggled againts the elite and 0.500 and above NBA Teams.

No we don't. We lack of a good coach. By the way, I'm not overrating the Denver's bench. They're indeed, one of the best bench in the league.:facepalm

[Scoooter]

Barnes is going to be a star, absolutely. He'll be better than Gallo by next year.
Why wasn't he a star in college?

[chazzy]

George Karl for NBA Coach of the Year. Nuggets have a better record than the Lakers without having a Superstar in their official roster.
Is this another Lebron23 account?

[KrizMiz]

04 Pistons!

i could see them winning it all!

[clipps]

CF86 makes me want to puke. Clipper fans aren't really like that. I gotta say that karma is a bitch and thank you, CF86, for giving the Clippers all of this bad karma you muther****encumguzzlin******.

[disel]

Nuggets>>>>>>>>>floppers

[brandonislegend]

Sure it's early and 4-6 isn't a hole they can't get out of. That being said most had them a top 4 seed (better than Grizzlies, Clippers and even Spurs) and analysts were guaranteeing a big leap. A few even had them as the winners of the west and number 1 seed :wtf: .

I always thought it was foolish because many teams ahead of them in the west got stronger too and Iggy isn't THAT good to take a team up an entire tier or two. When watching them so far this year they still have the same issues of not having a dependable go to scorer. On top of that Lawson who was supposedly their best player due to make a leap is playing like ass after his big contract.

Do you still think Denver will have HCA and be an elite team in the west? Or are they getting exposed as getting overhyped and overrated a bit too early? Their roster is more intact from previous seasons than the Grizzlies, Clippers and Lakers who all added multiple pieces this summer. So chemistry issues don't seem valid to me and we know most players can plug into that system right away and just play.

Miss you bro.

[SpecialQue]

Sure it's early and 4-6 isn't a hole they can't get out of. That being said most had them a top 4 seed (better than Grizzlies, Clippers and even Spurs) and analysts were guaranteeing a big leap. A few even had them as the winners of the west and number 1 seed :wtf: .

I always thought it was foolish because many teams ahead of them in the west got stronger too and Iggy isn't THAT good to take a team up an entire tier or two. When watching them so far this year they still have the same issues of not having a dependable go to scorer. On top of that Lawson who was supposedly their best player due to make a leap is playing like ass after his big contract.

Do you still think Denver will have HCA and be an elite team in the west? Or are they getting exposed as getting overhyped and overrated a bit too early? Their roster is more intact from previous seasons than the Grizzlies, Clippers and Lakers who all added multiple pieces this summer. So chemistry issues don't seem valid to me and we know most players can plug into that system right away and just play.

#3 in the west, officially better than the Clippers and Grizzlies this season, and only one win behind the Spurs' record. Not bad for an overrated team.