Gortat unhappy

[outbreak]

Haven't seen this posted yet, but here's an interview floating around with Gortat and a polish sports writer were he's quoted saying he is upset with his role on the offence now and he isn't even being considered as an option for Gentry. Rumours he is going to be traded with Orlando, Dallas, Bulls and Celtics interested in him.

http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2012/11/19/3666154/marcin-gortat-phoenix-suns-polish-media

[KG215]

Dammit Presti, get on the phone and get this done.

Perks + Jones/Lamb + TOR '13 1st RD pick + DAL '13 1st RD pick

[M.Bustly15A5RU8]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cskapvf

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[blablabla]

Interesting if that's true
Gortat is a decent center and in a league that severely lacks center and if I was the Suns i would try to trade him, regardless of his happiness
Gortat is turning 30 next year and this summer he will demand a huge salary which he will get, for comparison Asik got 25million over 3years and he played behind Noah in Chicago
If they can get some young talent and picks in return for him, i'd do it and go into full rebuilding mode

[blablabla]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cskapvf
Pekovic?

[kNicKz]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cskapvf

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[KG215]

Or this plus two of the three potential 2013 first round draft picks we have.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

[blablabla]

Dammit Presti, get on the phone and get this done.

Perks + Jones/Lamb + TOR '13 1st RD pick + DAL '13 1st RD pick
that would be a great trade for the suns

[KG215]

If they can get some young talent and picks in return for him, i'd do it and go into full rebuilding mode
Which is why OKC would be a great trade partner. :D

We have three first round picks and two rookies with good potential in Lamb and PJ3. We're obviously in "win now" mode. As much as I like the potential of Lamb and Jones, they aren't going to progress and develop in OKC as quickly as they would somewhere else. I'd like to hold on to Lamb if at all possible, but if it meant getting Gortat in return, I could living with losing him in the deal.

[Segatti]

We already have a very good european center.

[selrahc]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=c66z7j9

[Basketbolero]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ck9j449:confusedshrug:

[Fudge]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ck9j449:confusedshrug:
This but you can throw in PJ3 in there as well.

[Basketbolero]

This but you can throw in PJ3 in there as well.
Why?You don't want him?

[Fudge]

Why?You don't want him?
I do, but that trade seems a bit lopsided for OKC. We get Gortat that can give you 15/10 every now and then along with Dudley who can be a good backup for Durant. Forgot he was PHX starting SG this season. Perkins is pretty much useless so might as well throw in some young assets that can help them rebuild.

[HorryIsMyMVP]

Lol whats wrong Gortat? Miss Nash a little?

[Phantom_Blue]

If he really is unhappy, I feel bad for Dragic and Scola. Dragic is about to entire his prime on a suns team with zero building blocks(Kendall Marshall I guess) for the future. Scola has about 2 or 3 years left before he breaks down completely, hopefully he gets traded to the Spurs.

[EoJ]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cxnow8a

:confusedshrug:

[Carbine]

I can't believe OKC fans are so willing to just throw up PJ3, Lamb and that Toronto lottery pick for the likes of Martin Gortat.

He doesn't make them much better over Perkins and they lose both of the young, cheap assets they got from the Harden trade.

[flipogb]

I can't believe OKC fans are so willing to just throw up PJ3, Lamb and that Toronto lottery pick for the likes of Martin Gortat.

He doesn't make them much better over Perkins and they lose both of the young, cheap assets they got from the Harden trade.

lol have you seen Perkins and Gortat play?

[dunksby]

I can't believe OKC fans are so willing to just throw up PJ3, Lamb and that Toronto lottery pick for the likes of Martin Gortat.

He doesn't make them much better over Perkins and they lose both of the young, cheap assets they got from the Harden trade.
Gortat is a beast, you are obviously clueless.

[(e)]

Would love to trade Boozer for him...lol

[outbreak]

Davis + Vucevic for Gortat. Get it done :P

If I was OKC (who aren't even rumoured to have been phoning for Gortat) I wouldn't give up a first rounder and pj3. One of the other. Gortat's a good player and is under rated but he's close to 30. Guess it depends what else they part with, if they can swing perk, pj and picks then they'd have a good chance to win it all. Miami struggle with size.

[dunksby]

Davis + Vucevic for Gortat. Get it done :P

If I was OKC (who aren't even rumoured to have been phoning for Gortat) I wouldn't give up a first rounder and pj3. One of the other. Gortat's a good player and is under rated but he's close to 30. Guess it depends what else they part with, if they can swing perk, pj and picks then they'd have a good chance to win it all. Miami struggle with size.
We are a Center of Gortat's caliber away from being a Championship team, if his addition means a ring or two I say let's get him for sure.

[Mr. Incredible]

I can't believe OKC fans are so willing to just throw up PJ3, Lamb and that Toronto lottery pick for the likes of Martin Gortat.

He doesn't make them much better over Perkins and they lose both of the young, cheap assets they got from the Harden trade.They are desperate for a center it seems like. IMO, they know they can't win without one which is pretty crazy since they got to the Finals last year.

[A Roc 23]

A line up of:

Westbook / Maynor
Thabo / K.Martin
Durant / Dudley
Ibaka / Collison
Gortat / Thabeet

Would be my favourite to win it all this year.

Perkins + Lamb + TOs pick should get it done. You'd have a stacked team have still have PJ3 and DALs 1st as young prospects.

Gortat averages 3 blocks and Ibaka 3.5. Add Durant (1.4) and you have a front court that averages almost 8 blocks. No one will be able to score at the rim.

Dudley is a top notch backup forward as well. He's had success at PF in a small lineup in streches as well.

This trade needs to happen.

[swi7ch]

Steve Nash made this guy average 15PPG. Now imagine how much he would help D12! :eek:

[Mr. Incredible]

A line up of:

Westbook / Maynor
Thabo / K.Martin
Durant / Dudley
Ibaka / Collison
Gortat / Thabeet

Would be my favourite to win it all this year.

Perkins + Lamb + TOs pick should get it done. You'd have a stacked team have still have PJ3 and DALs 1st as young prospects.

Gortat averages 3 blocks and Ibaka 3.5. Add Durant (1.4) and you have a front court that averages almost 8 blocks. No one will be able to score at the rim.

Dudley is a top notch backup forward as well. He's had success at PF in a small lineup in streches as well.

This trade needs to happen.Doubt Phoenix pulls the trigger.

[dunksby]

A line up of:

Westbook / Maynor
Thabo / K.Martin
Durant / Dudley
Ibaka / Collison
Gortat / Thabeet

Would be my favourite to win it all this year.

Perkins + Lamb + TOs pick should get it done. You'd have a stacked team have still have PJ3 and DALs 1st as young prospects.

Gortat averages 3 blocks and Ibaka 3.5. Add Durant (1.4) and you have a front court that averages almost 8 blocks. No one will be able to score at the rim.

Dudley is a top notch backup forward as well. He's had success at PF in a small lineup in streches as well.

This trade needs to happen.
It could be the perfect scenario but there has been no news on OKC being interested...it still could be that they are keeping it really secret or something?

[Reverend Hoops]

Remember when Perkins was the key to OKC winning a title?

[dunksby]

Remember when Perkins was the key to OKC winning a title?
Hehe yea, I remember that time vividly. :lol

[A Roc 23]

Doubt Phoenix pulls the trigger.

It would be questionable. They have no prospects at SG and Toronto's pick is a guaranteed lottery pick (as per the protections). In order to justify taking an overpaid Perkins until 2015 they could always throw in PJ3 and/or the Dallas 1st.

A Lamb, PJ3, lottery pick, 20ish pick and Perkins bad contract seems like overpaying, but if that's what it takes to grab Gortat (and Dudley to make it work) it might be worth it given that they don't have time to develop young guys.

[Micku]

I can't believe OKC fans are so willing to just throw up PJ3, Lamb and that Toronto lottery pick for the likes of Martin Gortat.

He doesn't make them much better over Perkins and they lose both of the young, cheap assets they got from the Harden trade.

Don't underrate Gortat. He is pretty good. Better offensively than Perkins and can get more rebounds. He is one of the good few centers in the league. He would help the Thunder a lot more than Perkins imo.

Buuut, I don't know how he would do against Howard. I don't know if Perkins do a better job guarding Howard than Gortat.

[outbreak]

The source on who is interested is the same sports writer that interviewed Gortat. Likely Gortat himself told them who he is "interested". Their probably the locations he hopes to go to.

What about some sort of 3 way if phnx need a 2 guard. Orlando send redick, vucevic (he's getting a few double doubles this season) and pieces, OKC get Gortat, Orlando get picks\lamb\pj3 for their rebuild. Maybe perkins, lamb, pj3, first rounder to orlando, okc get gortat and harrington, phnx get redick and vucevic. Someone can have mcroberts too.

[bagelred]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cxnow8a (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bZkp7q19f0) :confusedshrug:

[A Roc 23]

A bonus would be that Gortat went against Dwight in practice for years. He knows more about defending Dwight than most people.

Gortat/Ibaka would be a great counter to Dwight/Gasol.

And if they do make it past the Lakers and meet Miami in the finals again:

Gortat/Ibaka vs. Bosh/Battier is a huge advantage for OKC.

[brownmamba00]

boston could use him. their frontcourt is made of scrubs

[Mr. Incredible]

boston could use him. their frontcourt is made of scrubs
I agree. Boston needs him more than pretty much anyone else especially if they want to get past Miami & New York.

[PP34Deuce]

A bonus would be that Gortat went against Dwight in practice for years. He knows more about defending Dwight than most people.

Gortat/Ibaka would be a great counter to Dwight/Gasol.

And if they do make it past the Lakers and meet Miami in the finals again:

Gortat/Ibaka vs. Bosh/Battier is a huge advantage for OKC.

There is a video on YouTube with Dwight and gortat going one on one in practice. Dwight won but gortat blocked hos shot once and made him miss badly once. Gortat also scored on him n held his own.

[Carbine]

Which is why OKC would be a great trade partner. :D

We have three first round picks and two rookies with good potential in Lamb and PJ3. We're obviously in "win now" mode. As much as I like the potential of Lamb and Jones, they aren't going to progress and develop in OKC as quickly as they would somewhere else. I'd like to hold on to Lamb if at all possible, but if it meant getting Gortat in return, I could living with losing him in the deal.

You're not in win now mode. The Lakers are in win. now mode with a short window.

The Thunder are built for another 10 years and should make decisions based on that.

[Whoah10115]

The Celtics can get him. Bass, Bradley, even Green...hell, maybe even Sullinger (would not want to tho)...you need a C.


Phoenix is one of those teams that Bynum should be looking at lol. Make it a 3way with the Sixers.



Or this plus two of the three potential 2013 first round draft picks we have.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine



You gotta save the trade and then post that link.

[PyrrhusX]

I would do Perk + Lamb + Toronto pick + Dallas Pick for him. I would rather not package PJ3 as it would seem like an overpay. But OKC are probebly not going to go for him. Considering we arnt losing many games baadly, I dont see any trades coming until season is over :(

[Jasper]

Gortat would be a perfect fit for the Heat...
Problem is money won't work

He runs , has low post play and has a great defensive presence.

One of my fav centers in the league.

[livingby3's]

Perks + Jones/Lamb + TOR '13 1st RD pick + DAL '13 1st RD pick

My Suns will suck more than now without Gortat. but Suns ain't going to go far anywhere with this current team, not to mention they got little to no trading assets. Trading Gortat for some pieces to build into the future seems like a right way to go. I always been high on Lamb and the Suns can develop him while filling the void at the 2 guard slot. 2 future 1 rounders to help rebuild. Perks is meh but for all the other reasons i say if this is an offered deal for PHX, we take it.

[Nick Young]

There is a video on YouTube with Dwight and gortat going one on one in practice. Dwight won but gortat blocked hos shot once and made him miss badly once. Gortat also scored on him n held his own.
And then in game D12 just shitted on Gortat and shut him down last week. Practice is practice. Games are games.

[Derka]

I like him, but I don't see why the Celtics trade for him. He'd allow KG to slide back to the 4, I guess. He'd certainly make us a better rebounding team. Still...

[TheBigAristotle1]

Phoenix would be retarded to trade Gortat. Good centers don't grow on trees. Who cares if he's unhappy?

[irondarts]

Dammit Presti, get on the phone and get this done.

Perks + Jones/Lamb + TOR '13 1st RD pick + DAL '13 1st RD pick
Man that's giving up a bunch for Gortat.

[Micku]

Phoenix would be retarded to trade Gortat. Good centers don't grow on trees. Who cares if he's unhappy?

They could trade him for picks and start full rebuilding mode like someone else said. They aren't going anywhere with this team. They need to make some moves and/or plan for the future. Gortat is very valuable since he is good center, which is rare.

[KG215]

Man that's giving up a bunch for Gortat.
Well, I'd assume Presti might be able to talk Phoenix into another player like Jared Dudley.

[Walker]

Well, I'd assume Presti might be able to talk Phoenix into another player like Jared Dudley.
It would have to be one hell of a deal. Phoenix won't be taking any long term bad contracts unless it's packaged with serious building blocks.

[poido123]

I like him, but I don't see why the Celtics trade for him. He'd allow KG to slide back to the 4, I guess. He'd certainly make us a better rebounding team. Still...

Celtics with Gortat would shake things up in the eastern conference. Celtics biggest weakness rebounding, would be greatly improved and put themselves on par with the Heat

[Whoah10115]

I'd say the Celtics could trade Green along with Bradley...but the Suns just got Beasley...unless they'd rather have Green and trade Beasley...or the Suns can just look to the young guys. Melo? Would they need Sullinger? Difficult.

[Xover]

I approve of trading Gortat. Great player, but we need more pieces to support and compliment our new building blocks. If this does happen it would be sad to see him go but it seems like the right thing to d, perfect timing.

[wagexslave]

Maybe Gortat would be "getting more shots" on offense if he could actually learn to stop being a finesse b*tch on offense and actually SLAM THE DAMN BALL IN THE HOOP. I'm tired of watching him get the ball wide open under the rim and instead of jamming it home easily he does these pitiful little finger rolls and layups off the backboard that rim-out right into a defender's hands all the damn time.

What the f*ck do they call him the "Polish Hammer"" for if it he refuses to even ATTEMPT to hammer the damn ball down? There's a reason Gortat is being told to focus soley on defense and rebounding. It's because that's what he's noteworthy at. His finesse offensive game is pretty shallow, even if quite effective (especially against short teams). He's useless on offense against tall teams that have solid defense.

If this is really how he feels, ship his ass out. Don't need whiny b*tch attitudes bringing the mood of the franchise down even more when we're already struggling to win games. Sign some actual CLASSY players who can just show up to work, get it done with a smile on their face, and not realize that this is their JOB and this is what they signed up for being in the NBA. Gotta have to grow up and learn to be businessmen about it on AND offside the court and not make public drama like this(if it's even true)

[kshutts1]

My friend and I were recently discussing ways the Celtics could trade for Gortat, so kinda funny that there is a thread about him being "unhappy" now..

Bradley, Sullinger/Melo, Bass and a protected 1st

for

Gortat, Dudley

Celtics, with Barbosa and Terry, are not missing Bradley too terribly (though a future with Bradley/Rondo at the guard spots is pretty sick), and Gortat and Dudley could really put this team up closer to Miami. Good trade to go all-out to win this year, and Phoenix gets a pick, a project big, and a potential start 2guard.

[miles berg]

I can't believe OKC fans are so willing to just throw up PJ3, Lamb and that Toronto lottery pick for the likes of Martin Gortat.

He doesn't make them much better over Perkins and they lose both of the young, cheap assets they got from the Harden trade.

Guess you haven't watched Marcin play.

[stevieming]

Maybe Gortat would be "getting more shots" on offense if he could actually learn to stop being a finesse b*tch on offense and actually SLAM THE DAMN BALL IN THE HOOP. I'm tired of watching him get the ball wide open under the rim and instead of jamming it home easily he does these pitiful little finger rolls and layups off the backboard that rim-out right into a defender's hands all the damn time.

What the f*ck do they call him the "Polish Hammer"" for if it he refuses to even ATTEMPT to hammer the damn ball down? There's a reason Gortat is being told to focus soley on defense and rebounding. It's because that's what he's noteworthy at. His finesse offensive game is pretty shallow, even if quite effective (especially against short teams). He's useless on offense against tall teams that have solid defense.

If this is really how he feels, ship his ass out. Don't need whiny b*tch attitudes bringing the mood of the franchise down even more when we're already struggling to win games. Sign some actual CLASSY players who can just show up to work, get it done with a smile on their face, and not realize that this is their JOB and this is what they signed up for being in the NBA. Gotta have to grow up and learn to be businessmen about it on AND offside the court and not make public drama like this(if it's even true)

he use to dunk a lot more at magic, probably just a by product of getting old.

[Toizumi]

My friend and I were recently discussing ways the Celtics could trade for Gortat, so kinda funny that there is a thread about him being "unhappy" now..

Bradley, Sullinger/Melo, Bass and a protected 1st

for

Gortat, Dudley

Celtics, with Barbosa and Terry, are not missing Bradley too terribly (though a future with Bradley/Rondo at the guard spots is pretty sick), and Gortat and Dudley could really put this team up closer to Miami. Good trade to go all-out to win this year, and Phoenix gets a pick, a project big, and a potential start 2guard.

It

[Godzuki]

its not just Gortat, its Scola too. Gentry is like Rambis, both retarded coaches that don't play their best players or utilize them correctly. lol i still remember Rambis constantly benching Love before he blew up.

[FireDavidKahn]

its not just Gortat, its Scola too. Gentry is like Rambis, both retarded coaches that don't play their best players or utilize them correctly. lol i still remember Rambis constantly benching Love before he blew up.
Rambis once said he purposely played players to their weaknesses so that they would "learn". He also called the Bynum cheapshot on Beasley a "basketball move". Rambis was such an epically bad coach.

[HorryIsMyMVP]

Gortat to LA for Jordan Hill and some scrub?