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Darius
11-22-2012, 02:54 AM
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D'Antoni FTW!

Wang Zhi Zhi
11-22-2012, 03:17 AM
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FKAri
11-22-2012, 03:22 AM
inb4 Kobe system

Dictator
11-22-2012, 03:25 AM
http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs3/3387202_o.gif

andremiller07
11-22-2012, 03:29 AM
If it makes you lakers fans feel any better Chuck Hayes had only 5 shots (but he made 4 of em):oldlol:

bdreason
11-22-2012, 03:45 AM
Howard gonna have to start shooting 3's if he wants to get his attempts in this system.



I would actually pay to watch Howard shoot 3's. :oldlol:

TheBigVeto
11-22-2012, 04:06 AM
Well if Kobe wasn't chucking so many shots, Dwight would've gotten more touches and the Lakers might've won. This is not D'Antoni's fault.

Magic731
11-22-2012, 04:19 AM
Well if Kobe wasn't chucking so many shots, Dwight would've gotten more touches and the Lakers might've won. This is not D'Antoni's fault.
In what world is 50% 'chucking'?

kennethgriffin
11-22-2012, 04:19 AM
Well if Kobe wasn't chucking so many shots, Dwight would've gotten more touches and the Lakers might've won. This is not D'Antoni's fault.

you do realise kobe shot 11 for 20 ( 5 for 9 from 3 ) and made 11 of 13 free throws

howard hits under 50% free throws. so if those 20 shots were howards and he hit 60%. he still would have scored less than kobe since he would have made 4 out of those 13 free throws and not made any 3 pointers

5 threes = 15 points. 5 two's = 10 points ( 5 less points )

11 ft's minus 4 = ( 7 less points )

thats 12 total points needed to be made up. howard would have had to of shot 80% on the same number of shots to make up for kobes efficiency in free throws and three pointers

dabulls23
11-22-2012, 04:22 AM
didn't get to see the whole game but from looking at the stats Kobe tried to carry the team but the 2nd and 3rd best player didn't produce sh**.. good thing Meeks got a decent amount of points

oh the horror
11-22-2012, 04:22 AM
In what world is 50% 'chucking'?


None.


The reality is, the OG Laker fans arent really tripping.



Talk to some of us at mid-season bud. If the Lakers are still looking scrub caliber, then we'll openly admit the team, and the system are shit. Mike has yet to make a real impact in the system and the way this team goes about their business.



We're awaiting Nash too.

Horatio33
11-22-2012, 04:44 AM
I said in the offseason that Dwight took the third most shots on the Magic in his last full season and got laughed at. Jameer Nelson and Ryan Anderson take more shots.

Dwight isn't assertive enough to be dominant ever night. He wants to get some boards, get a few dunks and block some shots into the crowd and have FUN. He doesn't have Steve Nash's winning mentality never mind Kobe's.

He'll also gets the stupidest reach in fouls ever. Might not matter now but IT WILL COST YOU AT LEAST ONE GAME IN THE PLAYOFFS.

Sleep well Lakers fans!

Kobe 4 The Win
11-22-2012, 05:00 AM
I watched the game. They could have went to him a little mor ein the first quarter. The rest of the game he got touches the problem was that he wasn't open and when they forced it in to him he's still getting the ball slapped out of his hands. Dumb fouls and a liability at the freethrow line. He's still getting over his injury. He'll be more agressive later on and D'antoni, Nash, and Kobe will find a way to get him involved.

The one I'm worried about is Pau. He's still playing out of position and he's super inconsistent. Trade bait...........again.

KG215
11-22-2012, 06:01 AM
you do realise kobe shot 11 for 20 ( 5 for 9 from 3 ) and made 11 of 13 free throws

howard hits under 50% free throws. so if those 20 shots were howards and he hit 60%. he still would have scored less than kobe since he would have made 4 out of those 13 free throws and not made any 3 pointers

5 threes = 15 points. 5 two's = 10 points ( 5 less points )

11 ft's minus 4 = ( 7 less points )

thats 12 total points needed to be made up. howard would have had to of shot 80% on the same number of shots to make up for kobes efficiency in free throws and three pointers
And you couldn't be happier. I bet you don't give two shits that the Lakers lost by 16 to the friggin' Kings. All you care about is how well Kobe played.

All Net
11-22-2012, 07:13 AM
Honestly no excuse for that. Can't use the back to back as an excuse as after as one of the youngest players he should of been more active.

White Mamba
11-22-2012, 07:21 AM
Honestly no excuse for that. Can't use the back to back as an excuse as after as one of the youngest players he should of been more active.

No need to panic, D12 had those kind of games before when he played for SVG, don't forget he is not 100% and if you watched tonight he clearly didn't move well and didn't jump as much as he can, his back still a problem and need the one day rest between games.

Next game he will be back to the D!2 we know.

Rubio2Gasol
11-22-2012, 07:24 AM
Howard is going to need to turn into an absolute machine on the offensive board's to be effective.

Either that or he needs to develop a true pick and roll game, unlike the one he had in Orlando where pick and roll was just a ploy to get deep post position.

Chicago Brawls
11-22-2012, 07:26 AM
D'Antoni defining himself:

http://cjzero.com/gifs/DantoniThatsAFlop.gif

White Mamba
11-22-2012, 07:38 AM
D'Antoni defining himself:

http://cjzero.com/gifs/DantoniThatsAFlop.gif

he is saying "that was a flop".

arifgokcen
11-22-2012, 08:32 AM
As good as kobe was,lakers have never been a good team when kobe scores over 30points.I have been watching this lakers team for a while since gasol came in.

Kobe shot the ball very well however he had a lot of costly turnovers 7 of them to be exact.Still no nash.So lets wait what happens after nash comes back

poido123
11-22-2012, 08:45 AM
As good as kobe was,lakers have never been a good team when kobe scores over 30points.I have been watching this lakers team for a while since gasol came in.

Kobe shot the ball very well however he had a lot of costly turnovers 7 of them to be exact.Still no nash.So lets wait what happens after nash comes back

1st problem: D'Antoni will want Nash with the ball a majority of the time. Kobe will not like that, because Nash will be focusing the pick and roll on howard and Gasol, with the kickouts to the shooters.

2nd problem: Kobe is not going to like being a spot up shooter, he will want to impose his own will in this system at the detriment of the team.

Will be interesting to see if this turns out to be a disaster or an offensive juggernaut. Time will tell

Calabis
11-22-2012, 10:12 AM
you do realise kobe shot 11 for 20 ( 5 for 9 from 3 ) and made 11 of 13 free throws

howard hits under 50% free throws. so if those 20 shots were howards and he hit 60%. he still would have scored less than kobe since he would have made 4 out of those 13 free throws and not made any 3 pointers

5 threes = 15 points. 5 two's = 10 points ( 5 less points )

11 ft's minus 4 = ( 7 less points )

thats 12 total points needed to be made up. howard would have had to of shot 80% on the same number of shots to make up for kobes efficiency in free throws and three pointers

Don't forget his 7 turnovers

pegasus
11-22-2012, 10:21 AM
Honestly no excuse for that. Can't use the back to back as an excuse as after as one of the youngest players he should of been more active.
How about just one "back"? You know, as in his surgically repaired back.

Bucket_Nakedz
11-22-2012, 10:25 AM
i never thought id feel sorry for dude. oh wait, i still dont.

swi7ch
11-22-2012, 10:36 AM
D'Antoni's offense revolves around a capable PG:

Nash
Lin
Felton
Dragic
etc.

Also, fire MDA and bring back Bernie!!!

amfirst
11-22-2012, 03:26 PM
I guess some people weren't watching last night. Everytime Kobe sits down they start losing the lead and he has to bail them out. The problem is the Lakers 2 guards are injured. Kobe is playing pg out there and carrying the scoring too.

He won't have a problem with Nash dominating the ball. From what I saw, he made sure the pg was running the ball last night besides himself. The problem was that everytime the ball was in someone else hand they made bad plays. Lakers need Nash back to create plays to help Kobe out. He is too old to do too many things at once.

amfirst
11-22-2012, 03:29 PM
1st problem: D'Antoni will want Nash with the ball a majority of the time. Kobe will not like that, because Nash will be focusing the pick and roll on howard and Gasol, with the kickouts to the shooters.

2nd problem: Kobe is not going to like being a spot up shooter, he will want to impose his own will in this system at the detriment of the team.

Will be interesting to see if this turns out to be a disaster or an offensive juggernaut. Time will tell


U know nothing. If anything Kobe was trying to get people to carry the playmaking instead of him running it last night. He looked like he was tire and in cruise mode. The only problem was that no one can consistently make plays besides Kobe.

upside24
11-22-2012, 03:56 PM
None.


The reality is, the OG Laker fans arent really tripping.



Talk to some of us at mid-season bud. If the Lakers are still looking scrub caliber, then we'll openly admit the team, and the system are shit. Mike has yet to make a real impact in the system and the way this team goes about their business.



We're awaiting Nash too.
This. Season is not even a quarter the way through.

The system will take time and getting Nash back in the game will make a huge difference in how well the system is ran.

Jameerthefear
11-22-2012, 04:04 PM
It wasn't Kobe's fault first of all. Dwight just wasn't very aggressive this game. It probably has to do with it being a back to back and his back injury. He's not at %100. You can easily see that in the way he's playing defense and rebounding.

catquickspider
11-22-2012, 06:08 PM
He was getting doubled as soon as he caught it and Gasol had a lot of easy looks due to that. Gasol sucks ass though.

Morris is not very good at setting up offenses and feeding big men either. Actually non of the other players were consistently looking for Dwight.

kNIOKAS
11-22-2012, 06:17 PM
inb4 Kobe system

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs3/3387202_o.gif



:lebronamazed:

longtime lurker
11-23-2012, 12:07 AM
The problem is not that Kobe shot more than Dwight Howard it's that Gasol, ARtest, Morris and Meeks all took more shots than Howard. Not to mention Howard had only 4 free throw attempts. When was the last time that ever happened in a game? It's obvious that Howard wasn't being that aggressive and that's can be blamed on a number of things.

pauk
11-23-2012, 12:38 AM
Everything will flourish once Nash comes back, he will put the ball where its needed and run plays strategically, for D Antonis system to flourish a great ballhandling/passing PG is kindof obligatory... right now he doesnt have such a PG and has to go with Kobe doing that job alot, which is a very bad idea, i mean Kobe does have the required ballhandling to get the ball up but he is the biggest opposite to a PGs mindset & instincts... Kobe was trying to facilitate that game, got lots of turnovers, then he got HOT and they were down, so he said fakkit... and you know Kobe, he can heatcheck/alienate teammates sometimes the entire game when he is on fire, no system exists when Kobe wants to shoot, its basically NBA2k13 when he is in that mode.... Yes, sometimes that can win games, Yes its entertaining, but it also gives teammates always less touches (thats where Dwight comes in at least that game) and can also lose you the game ... and Lakers cant really give the ball to somebody else to playmake i guess, Steve Blake is injured... so D Antoni has to go with Kobe... thats how i see it all at least

Kobe can facilitate and keep his teammates happy, he has the tools... but only for stretches, preferably early in the game... but for the entire game or even most of the game? Its just not him and his instincts, its like if you forced the nastiest carnivore to eat only vegetables, a ticking bomb just waiting to explode basketballs at the hoop :P I am not trying to diss Kobe, i am just saying PG / facilitating is not his thing..

RazorBaLade
11-23-2012, 02:02 AM
Everything will flourish once Nash comes back, he will put the ball where its needed and run plays strategically, for D Antonis system to flourish a great ballhandling/passing PG is kindof obligatory... right now he doesnt have such a PG and has to go with Kobe doing that job alot, which is a very bad idea, i mean Kobe does have the required ballhandling to get the ball up but he is the biggest opposite to a PGs mindset & instincts... Kobe was trying to facilitate that game, got lots of turnovers, then he got HOT and they were down, so he said fakkit... and you know Kobe, he can heatcheck/alienate teammates sometimes the entire game when he is on fire, no system exists when Kobe wants to shoot, its basically NBA2k13 when he is in that mode.... Yes, sometimes that can win games, Yes its entertaining, but it also gives teammates always less touches (thats where Dwight comes in at least that game) and can also lose you the game ... and Lakers cant really give the ball to somebody else to playmake i guess, Steve Blake is injured... so D Antoni has to go with Kobe... thats how i see it all at least

Kobe can facilitate and keep his teammates happy, he has the tools... but only for stretches, preferably early in the game... but for the entire game or even most of the game? Its just not him and his instincts, its like if you forced the nastiest carnivore to eat only vegetables, a ticking bomb just waiting to explode basketballs at the hoop :P I am not trying to diss Kobe, i am just saying PG / facilitating is not his thing..

true.

another problem is that the lesser players on the team have no mind of their own, its either OMG BALL TO KOBE SO HES NOT MAD AT ME or completely ignore him if hes wide open because they need to "run the offense"

this team is simply not complete without nash.

icewill36
11-23-2012, 10:23 AM
d12 better get used to nights like that