Does Melo get less calls than any superstar?

[Court Vision]

"Kevin Durant attempted more free throws last night (21 FTA) than Carmelo Anthony has attempted in his last THREE games combined (19 FTA)"

http://i.imgur.com/UmpOi.gif

[SilkkTheShocker]

I wouldn't consider him a superstar. Guys like LeBron, Kobe, Howard, Durant, and CP3 are superstars.

[Court Vision]

I wouldn't consider him a superstar. Guys like LeBron, Kobe, Howard, Durant, and CP3 are superstars.

Regardless of your definition of a superstar, the point still stands.

[kurple]

we used to say the same when he was i denver

[Locked_Up_Tonight]

No, that would be Dirk.

[KG215]

Yes.

[Rekindled]

No, that would be Dirk.

you mean the guy that shot like 30 fts in a WCF game?

[tikay0]

NO, he doesn't. Him and Rose go through the same thing. They can both play and finish through the contact, so refs won't give them the benefit of the whistle. While guys like LBJ/Wade/Kobe/Durant flop their asses off, to get the whistle every time.

[La Frescobaldi]

it's just because all refs despise him as much as anybody else

[fsvr54]

I wouldn't consider him a superstar. Guys like LeBron, Kobe, Howard, Durant, and CP3 are superstars.

Melo is more known than Chris Paul.

[longhornfan1234]

Howard.

[tikay0]

Howard.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pi/shareit/b0ay0

[G-train]

"Kevin Durant attempted more free throws last night (21 FTA) than Carmelo Anthony has attempted in his last THREE games combined (19 FTA)"

http://i.imgur.com/UmpOi.gif

Yeah you could be right, but comparing 4 different games with different opponents in different moods wearing different underpants isn't really valid.

[KyrieTheFuture]

Melo is more known than Chris Paul.
Being known doesn't make you a superstar. Also Melo doesn't get a whole lot of respect but it's not horrible.

[PyrrhusX]

Melo is 5th in the league with 6.7 FTA a game, the only person remotely far away from this is Dwight who has to play with the hack-a-dwight strategy.
:rolleyes:

[Court Vision]

Melo is 5th in the league with 6.7 FTA a game, the only person remotely far away from this is Dwight who has to play with the hack-a-dwight strategy.
:rolleyes:

Do you watch the games?

[tikay0]

Do you watch the games?

I've seen a lot of Melo games, and he doesn't get ANY respect from the refs.

[PyrrhusX]

Do you watch the games?

No I dont watch Knicks games, so I dont know if he gets calls he should get, but going by stats he seems to be getting calls at the same rate as other superstars in the league, heck even Lebron has less FTA a game being more of an inside player.

Are you being slightly biased about it?

[raiderfan19]

Its dirk and it's not all that close

[c3z4r]

I've seen a lot of Melo games, and he doesn't get ANY respect from the refs.

Maybe cause he's the only superstar to be involved in a brawl, which might give him an artest like attitude among the refs. I mean, if I was reffing that game and saw firsthand how melo clocked a dude then backtracked, I would tell all my fellow refs to treat him rougher than usual.

[fsvr54]

Being known doesn't make you a superstar. Also Melo doesn't get a whole lot of respect but it's not horrible.

What is the definition of a star nikka? A Famous person

[Court Vision]

No I dont watch Knicks games, so I dont know if he gets calls he should get, but going by stats he seems to be getting calls at the same rate as other superstars in the league, heck even Lebron has less FTA a game being more of an inside player.

Are you being slightly biased about it?

Slightly.

[I.R.Beast]

been saying this for years...melo gets mugged more than any other superstar around the rim without getting deserved calls....his headband is always around his neck after being clobbered.

[iDunk]

I read that ever since he got into NY his FTA have dropped significantly even though he's attacking the basket relentlessly.

[Graviton]

Ever seen Westbrook/Rose play? They get smacked every time but they are so quick refs rarely call it.

In terms of uncalled contact, Westbrook, Rose, Griffin and Melo are up there. I think officials just expect them to make everything through contact so they only call the most blatant fouls.

[ClutchOver9000]

This is an observation I agree w/ and is IMO inarguable.

Perhaps guys like Rose also go through this but when it comes to Melo, the dude gets relentlessly mugged/hacked on drives to the basket & scarcely gets calls while on the other end gets called for offensive fouls relatively frequently, especially when you consider his star status.

[B-Easy8]

He gets no respect. I think because he is so strong and doesn't flop he doesn't get any calls, he still puts up a quality shot with contact.

If you ever watch Pekovic its the same with him. He will get hacked big time but he is so strong that he still gets up a quality shot and no foul is called.

[DaSeba5]

He's top 10 in FTA. :confusedshrug:

[tikay0]

He's top 10 in FTA. :confusedshrug:

The point is being, compared to his counterparts, he gets way less FTA's, relative to how many he's earned.

Where as, some superstars get more FTA's, solely, because they are superstars. I don't include LBJ or Dwight.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

lebron hasn't been getting many calls this year.

[G-train]

lebron hasn't been getting many calls this year.

Lebron often gets hit with no call. But he also gets calls for only a little contact sometimes.
Reffing is very inconsistent.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Lebron often gets hit with no call. But he also gets calls for only a little contact sometimes.
Reffing is very inconsistent.
Agreed.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

just checked. lebron with 5.4 fta/36 and melo with 6.8 fta/36. pretty surprising considering lebron is more of a slasher while melo is more of a shooter.

[plowking]

Lebron often gets hit with no call. But he also gets calls for only a little contact sometimes.
Reffing is very inconsistent.

Some of the hits he took in the finals without calls and finished were absolutely ridiculous.

[inclinerator]

he does get hit alot when he crashes to the basket

[tikay0]

just checked. lebron with 5.4 fta/36 and melo with 6.8 fta/36. pretty surprising considering lebron is more of a slasher while melo is more of a shooter.

Actually, Melo is taking more inside/close shots than LBJ, this year.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Actually, Melo is taking more inside/close shots than LBJ, this year.
really? how is lebron shooting .52 and melo only .44?

[DaSeba5]

really? how is lebron shooting .52 and melo only .44?

Hmm... LeBron's perimeter shots have been falling so far this year.

[tikay0]

really? how is lebron shooting .52 and melo only .44?

Probably, because when gets hit going towards the rim, the refs don't give him the FT's, thus messing up his %'s. :D

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Probably, because when gets hit going towards the rim, the refs don't give him the FT's, thus messing up his %'s. :D
but then why is lebron shooting so well. cause he would have to be having a goat perimeter shooting season if he's shooting 52%

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Hmm... LeBron's perimeter shots have been falling so far this year.
yeah but shooting .52 on shooting mostly perimeter shots is nearly impossible.

[el gringos]

Without a doubt

[tikay0]

but then why is lebron shooting so well. cause he would have to be having a goat perimeter shooting season if he's shooting 52%

He is shooting 52% from the field. That's not GOAT. MJ had 6 seasons of 52% from the field. With career highs of 53% 3x.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Doesn't take as many shots as melo. Hr has the 2 other queens
he's taking .3 less shots than melo basically the same.

[DaSeba5]

yeah but shooting .52 on shooting mostly perimeter shots is nearly impossible.

Well he makes that bank in layup a lot, he gets put ins on offensive rebounds if he's in the paint at times, and his perimeter game has been falling so far.

[tikay0]

he's taking .3 less shots than melo basically the same.

Read my edit. It's .6 by the way.

[tikay0]

Well he makes that bank in layup a lot, he gets put ins on offensive rebounds if he's in the paint at times, and his perimeter game has been falling so far.

pretty much this.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Well he makes that bank in layup a lot, he gets put ins on offensive rebounds if he's in the paint at times, and his perimeter game has been falling so far.
but he wAs just saying that he isn't attacking the rim as much as melo so how is he getting more layups.

[DaSeba5]

but he wAs just saying that he isn't attacking the rim as much as melo so how is he getting more layups.

I told you. He's taking a lot of jumpers this year and they are falling. The rest of the scoring comes from attacking the basket. Plus keep in mind the dunks on a fast break.

[tikay0]

Melo

Jump shot
64% .449 51% 4% 11.1
Close
32% .480 25% 22% 6.0
Dunk
3% .750 33% 25% .8
Tips
1% 1.000 0% 0% .3
Inside
36% .509 25% 22% 7.0


Lebron


Jump shot
68% .471 41% 4% 12.0
Close
26% .698 35% 8% 6.7
Dunk
5% 1.000 90% 0% 1.8
Tips
1% .667 0% 0% .4
Inside
32% .742 45% 6% 8.9


Those last total numbers aren't attempted shots. Their pts. converted from said shot.

[DaSeba5]

Melo

Jump shot
64% .449 51% 4% 11.1
Close
32% .480 25% 22% 6.0
Dunk
3% .750 33% 25% .8
Tips
1% 1.000 0% 0% .3
Inside
36% .509 25% 22% 7.0


Lebron


Jump shot
68% .471 41% 4% 12.0
Close
26% .698 35% 8% 6.7
Dunk
5% 1.000 90% 0% 1.8
Tips
1% .667 0% 0% .4
Inside
32% .742 45% 6% 8.9

That's what I thought

[DaSeba5]

Maybe it's because the refs know LeBron is more of a slasher, so they give him the benefit of the doubt more.

[IGotACoolStory]

Depends on the way some players play as well.

Shaq should have averaged 16 more free throws a game with the way he was mugged.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Melo

Jump shot
64% .449 51% 4% 11.1
Close
32% .480 25% 22% 6.0
Dunk
3% .750 33% 25% .8
Tips
1% 1.000 0% 0% .3
Inside
36% .509 25% 22% 7.0


Lebron


Jump shot
68% .471 41% 4% 12.0
Close
26% .698 35% 8% 6.7
Dunk
5% 1.000 90% 0% 1.8
Tips
1% .667 0% 0% .4
Inside
32% .742 45% 6% 8.9


Those last total numbers aren't attempted shots. Their pts. converted from said shot.
thanks for posting this interesting stuff. guess i was wrong. Lebron scoring more off jumpers than melo is really surprising though.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Maybe it's because the refs know LeBron is more of a slasher, so they give him the benefit of the doubt more.
often times players don't even try to contest when he dunks it nowadays too.

[tikay0]

thanks for posting this interesting stuff. guess i was wrong. Lebron scoring more off jumpers than melo is really surprising though.

Look at how efficient James is from the inside though. :eek:

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Look at how efficient James is from the inside though. :eek:
yeah. holy shit.

[Clutch]

He might be top10 in free throws attempted but it seems like he gets hacked often without refs giving him the call. Superstars are often protected by the refs but it seems like you can hack Melo as much as you want. They will call some fouls on you but you'll also get away with many.

He occasionally gets some superstar calls but it certainly seems like he doesn't get as many calls as he should get.

Fouled or not,Melo really needs to get better at finishing at the rim. Sometimes he misses pretty easy layups.

[Floppy]

Melo is hard to officiate cause he usually creates most of the contact. He might not get as many calls as he should but he also gets away with a lot of offense fouls.

[Clutch]

Melo is hard to officiate cause he usually creates most of the contact. He might not get as many calls as he should but he also gets away with a lot of offense fouls.
That's somewhat true. But he also gets called for some bullshit offensive fouls too.

The refs giveth and the refs taketh away :lol

[Sharmer]

"Kevin Durant attempted more free throws last night (21 FTA) than Carmelo Anthony has attempted in his last THREE games combined (19 FTA)"

http://i.imgur.com/UmpOi.gif

He's doesn't drive to the basket that much, settles for a lot of jump shots. Therefore, little contact is made.

Some players have a knack for creating contact on jump shooting, Melo may need to develop this.

I know what you saying with Durant, he does get a lot of free throws, however he does slash a lot more to the basket.

[La Frescobaldi]

He's doesn't drive to the basket that much, settles for a lot of jump shots. Therefore, little contact is made.

Some players have a knack for creating contact on jump shooting, Melo may need to develop this.

I know what you saying with Durant, he does get a lot of free throws, however he does slash a lot more to the basket.

anthony has always stole the Kiki step as his main weapon

[Rubio2Gasol]

Westbrook drove about 30 times and got 2 free throws in the finals of game 4.

I don't even know how that's possible.

Melo should get more while he's on the offensive glass, guys hack him all over the place.

[Sharmer]

Westbrook drove about 30 times and got 2 free throws in the finals of game 4.

I don't even know how that's possible.

One advantage Durant has, when driving to the basket, is his incredible length, which initiates contact.

[NumberSix]

Since when is Carmelo a "superstar"? Chris Bosh is a higher profile player than Carmelo is.

[dannywpt]

Westbrook gets the least calls of all the stars in the NBA. Second is Rose. After that, I don't know, but it's definitely not Melo.

[bagelred]

This is coming off the Mavericks game where there were some ridiculous no-calls near the end of the game. Could have easily swung game in Knicks favor. Two plays in a row Melo drew major contact and there was no call. Knicks lost by 3. Me thinks if it was Dwyane Wade, the story would have been different.

[Clutch]

This is coming off the Mavericks game where there were some ridiculous no-calls near the end of the game. Could have easily swung game in Knicks favor. Two plays in a row Melo drew major contact and there was no call. Knicks lost by 3. Me thinks if it was Dwyane Wade, the story would have been different.
Players can't even look wrong at D-Wade without being called for a foul.

[ImmortalD24]

Yep. I've been saying the same thing since 09 playoffs vs the Lakers. Dude gets no respect (ala the Kobe treatment).

[tikay0]

Westbrook gets the least calls of all the stars in the NBA. Second is Rose. After that, I don't know, but it's definitely not Melo.


We got away with hacking the crap outta him when he played my bulls this year.

[imdaman99]

melo doesnt flop thats why. and neither do westbrook and rose. i guess refs prefer some acting from players.

[Boogey]

Carmelo has no hops. So bigs just stay at home against him.

[Segatti]

Worse than Lebron and Kobe stans are Melo stans, at least the first two are superstars.

[ihoopallday]

Players can't even look wrong at D-Wade without being called for a foul.

Actually Wade doesn't get calls that much anymore. Most of the time, he'll just be on the ground waiting for a whistle while the other team is on a fastbreak. This year, the refs have toned it down a little. But there's still a lot of room for improvement.

[NumberSix]

Players can't even look wrong at D-Wade without being called for a foul.
This just shows how most fans opinions are based solely on reputation. Even Bosh gets more calls than Wade these days.

Wade hasn't been one of the posterboy recipients of "superstar calls" at all this season and and barely last season either. That distinguished honor goes to Kevin Durant. Nobody is even on the same planet with him in that regard.

[che guevara]

Lebron often gets hit with no call. But he also gets calls for only a little contact sometimes.
Reffing is very inconsistent.
Yeah it's weird how Lebron's reffed - it doesn't seem to matter how much contact there is on his drives, it's just whether the ref feels like calling a foul or not. He'll sometimes get awful touch fouls with no contact, but then on the next two plays he'll get smacked hard with blatantly obvious fouls that go uncalled.


Look at how efficient James is from the inside though. :eek:
That's always been Melo's problem, not his ability to get to the rim, but his ability to finish when he's there. He's been a mediocre finisher his entire career.

[Purch]

What does it actually mean to be a "Superstar". I'd venture to say Cp3's only marginally better than a lot of these top 10 players, that people claim aren't good enough to be in the "superstar" category.

[Court Vision]

Since when is Carmelo a "superstar"? Chris Bosh is a higher profile player than Carmelo is.

Get the f*ck outta here.

[Sampsonsimpson]

When I think Superstar I think of somebody who is a household name. Someone who even a non-basketball fan might know, guys like Lebron, Kobe, Derrick Rose, Dwight Howard, Carmelo Anthony, and Id put Blake Griffin in there too because he's been getting a lot of exposure with his TV commercials. So yes I consider Carmelo Anthony a superstar because he is one of the most well known players in the NBA today and even non fans/casual fans might know him.

[TheFan]

When I think Superstar I think of somebody who is a household name. Someone who even a non-basketball fan might know, guys like Lebron, Kobe, Derrick Rose, Dwight Howard, Carmelo Anthony, and Id put Blake Griffin in there too because he's been getting a lot of exposure with his TV commercials. So yes I consider Carmelo Anthony a superstar because he is one of the most well known players in the NBA today and even non fans/casual fans might know him.

If thats the case... then Only Kobe and Lebron are superstars... I know plethora of people who has no effin idea who Wade is... but if you ask them on Lebron or Kobe... "oh yeah the basketball guy..."

[KungFuJoe]

When Melo becomes a superstar, I'll let you know what I think about his ref treatment.

There's really only ONE super superstar and that's Kobe. EVERYONE knows who Kobe is, mainly because he's been around so long and he plays for the Lakers. Lebron is a close second. Third, whoever he is, is so far back, he's not even relevant in the race.

More people probably know Melo cuz of his wife being in that reality show than him playing basketball.

Edit: Third is Griffin cuz of his dunks, slam dunk championship and Kia commercials, which are actually pretty funny.