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Deuce Bigalow
11-23-2012, 04:36 AM
Walt Bellamy was voted the #99 NBA Player Of All-Time According to InsideHoops.

20.1 PPG | 13.7 RPG | 2.4 APG

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Spaulding
11-23-2012, 07:41 AM
So this concludes the list. Plan on doing anything else like this? Like best players at each position?

Legends66NBA7
11-23-2012, 08:26 AM
Plan on doing anything else like this? Like best players at each position?

Just add the players from each ranking and draw the conclusion.

For the Top 10 alone:

PG
1. Magic Johnson - #4
2. Oscar Robertson - #13
3. Isiah Thomas - #25
4. Bob Cousy - #26
5. John Stockton - #32
6. Walt Fraizer - #33
7. Steve Nash - #35
8. Jason Kidd - #41
9. Gary Payton - #43
10. Tiny Archibald - #57

SG
1. Michael Jordan - #1
2. Kobe Bryant - #8
3. Jerry West - #14
4. Dwyane Wade - #29
5. Clyde Drexler - #34
6. Allen Iverson - #36
7. George Gervin - #48
8. Ray Allen - #54
9. Sam Jones - #55
10. Reggie Miller - #60

SF
1. Larry Bird - #5
2. LeBron James - #11
3. Julius Erving - #15
4. Elgin Baylor - #19
5. John Havlicek - #21
6. Scottie Pippen - #27
7. Rick Barry - #28
8. Paul Arizin - #45
9. Dominique Wilkins - #47
10. Paul Pierce - #49

PF
1. Tim Duncan - #9
2. Kevin Garnett - #16
3. Karl Malone - #17
4. Charles Barkley - #18
5. Bob Pettit - #20
6. Dirk Nowitzki - #22
7. Dolph Schayes - #38
8. Kevin McHale - #40
9. Elvin Hayes - #44
10. Dennis Rodman - #50

C
1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - #2
2. Bill Russell - #3
3. Wilt Chamberlain - #6
4. Shaquille O'Neal - #7
5. Hakeem Olajuwon - #10
6. Moses Malone - #12
7. George Mikan - #23
8. David Robinson - #24
9. Willis Reed - #30
10. Patrick Ewing - #31

RobertdeMeijer
11-23-2012, 09:08 AM
Thanks to everybody to help make this list =)

(I wouldn't mind voting for a top 200, btw, I'm having a good time)

SHAQisGOAT
11-23-2012, 10:12 AM
Bobby Jones once again

Wavves
11-23-2012, 10:25 AM
Adam Morrison

RobertdeMeijer
11-23-2012, 10:47 AM
For #101: Bobby Jones

swi7ch
11-23-2012, 10:47 AM
Tom Gugliotta

Eric Cartman
11-23-2012, 11:58 AM
Jack Twyman

winwin
11-23-2012, 12:25 PM
Rasheed Wallace

MetsPackers
11-23-2012, 01:00 PM
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeed

fpliii
11-23-2012, 03:13 PM
Penny

Segatti
11-23-2012, 03:19 PM
Dirk behind Garnett :lol

SourPatchKids
11-23-2012, 03:22 PM
Peja!

Heilige
11-23-2012, 03:22 PM
Penny Hardaway

Eric Cartman
11-23-2012, 03:28 PM
I don't get why everyone is voting for Rasheed. Can someone enlighten me?

fpliii
11-23-2012, 03:33 PM
I don't get why everyone is voting for Rasheed. Can someone enlighten me?

I think at this point we're voting guys in based on not only achieved greatness, but potential greatness they missed out on for whatever reason.

For most of these guys it was injury that held them back from maximizing their potentials, as opposed to Sheed who was limited by a combination of playstyle (lack of desire to play inside) and attitude (for obvious reasons, though this is less important than not wanting to crash and bang night-in-and-night-out with the bigs).

TBH we should probably be voting in Ginobili over Sheed as well, but I have no problem with the vote; Sheed was incredibly legit and had all-time great potential (and though disappointing considering, his career still turned out okay).

Deuce Bigalow
11-23-2012, 06:37 PM
For #101: Bobby Jones
Who for #100?

L.Kizzle
11-23-2012, 06:47 PM
I think at this point we're voting guys in based on not only achieved greatness, but potential greatness they missed out on for whatever reason.

For most of these guys it was injury that held them back from maximizing their potentials, as opposed to Sheed who was limited by a combination of playstyle (lack of desire to play inside) and attitude (for obvious reasons, though this is less important than not wanting to crash and bang night-in-and-night-out with the bigs).

TBH we should probably be voting in Ginobili over Sheed as well, but I have no problem with the vote; Sheed was incredibly legit and had all-time great potential (and though disappointing considering, his career still turned out okay).
None were a top tier player like Gus Johnson or Joe Fulks.

My vote is for Fulks again.

Deuce Bigalow
11-23-2012, 07:10 PM
Gus Johnson

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tmacattack33
11-23-2012, 07:41 PM
Penny Hardaway's gotta be on the list.

We already have players with shortened primes on the list like T-mac, Vince Carter, Grant Hill, and Zo.

And Peak Penny had a better peak than all of those guys except for maybe Peak T-mac.

WillC
11-23-2012, 08:58 PM
Penny Hardaway's gotta be on the list.

We already have players with shortened primes on the list like T-mac, Vince Carter, Grant Hill, and Zo.

And Peak Penny had a better peak than all of those guys except for maybe Peak T-mac.

And, relative to his era, Joe Fulks had a greater peak than all of them.

Joe Fulks gets my vote.

Seems criminal to leave a 3-time scoring champ and the BAA/NBA's first champion off the list of the top 100 players.

Duncan21formvp
11-23-2012, 10:16 PM
Penny

tmacattack33
11-24-2012, 12:00 AM
And, relative to his era, Joe Fulks had a greater peak than all of them.

Joe Fulks gets my vote.

Seems criminal to leave a 3-time scoring champ and the BAA/NBA's first champion off the list of the top 100 players.

In 1946, basketball was not as popular as it is now, so the talent pool was much much smaller.

Furthermore, the population of the nation in 1950 was 132 million, compared to 1990's 248 million.

Furthermore, the league was not fully integrated until 1960 (and probably not very popular with blacks until even later than that).

So, yes, compared to the much smaller talent pool at the time (and one that was largely limited to one race), Jeff Fulkes may have indeed been at Peak Penny status or above. You can vote for that if you want.

fpliii
11-24-2012, 02:00 AM
Deuce, just wanted to say great work with this project again :cheers:

I'm wondering if you're interested in following this up with another such thread? Maybe best defensive players of all-time (and follow up with offensive players if you'd like)? I'd suggest primes/peaks, but that didn't work with my recent attempt (though it might be successful during the season). Best players by position/era would be useless, since we can parse them out of this master list. You could try a top 10-20 for the ABA as well I guess, depending on what you're interested in doing.

AngelEyes
11-24-2012, 02:25 AM
Rasheed Wallace

BallsOut
11-24-2012, 02:33 AM
Dwight Howard anyone?

fpliii
11-24-2012, 02:38 AM
Dwight Howard anyone?

he was voted in at #51

Deuce Bigalow
11-24-2012, 02:57 AM
Deuce, just wanted to say great work with this project again :cheers:

I'm wondering if you're interested in following this up with another such thread? Maybe best defensive players of all-time (and follow up with offensive players if you'd like)? I'd suggest primes/peaks, but that didn't work with my recent attempt (though it might be successful during the season). Best players by position/era would be useless, since we can parse them out of this master list. You could try a top 10-20 for the ABA as well I guess, depending on what you're interested in doing.
You should make a thread of those if you're interested. I'm tired of doing this now lol. Counting up votes of a hundred threads and making a hundred threads....don't want to do it again. Defensive rankings sounds cool though, so maybe you start it up later. :cheers:

WillC
11-24-2012, 07:33 AM
In 1946, basketball was not as popular as it is now, so the talent pool was much much smaller.

Furthermore, the population of the nation in 1950 was 132 million, compared to 1990's 248 million.

Furthermore, the league was not fully integrated until 1960 (and probably not very popular with blacks until even later than that).

So, yes, compared to the much smaller talent pool at the time (and one that was largely limited to one race), Jeff Fulkes may have indeed been at Peak Penny status or above. You can vote for that if you want.

So in 50 years time when the USA's population has doubled and the rules have basketball have evolved, does that mean we will need to remove LeBron James and Michael Jordan from the top 100 players list?

KOBE143
11-24-2012, 09:40 AM
LeBron

Nash
11-24-2012, 09:45 AM
Bosh is better than Wallace

DaHeezy
11-24-2012, 11:47 AM
Larry Johnson

IGotACoolStory
11-24-2012, 01:33 PM
Bobby Jones then

L.Kizzle
11-24-2012, 03:21 PM
You should make a thread of those if you're interested. I'm tired of doing this now lol. Counting up votes of a hundred threads and making a hundred threads....don't want to do it again. Defensive rankings sounds cool though, so maybe you start it up later. :cheers:
I know what you mean brother, props.

Deuce Bigalow
11-24-2012, 05:49 PM
So this concludes the list. Plan on doing anything else like this? Like best players at each position?
No. The best players at each position is already done.
Just add the players from each ranking and draw the conclusion.

For the Top 10 alone:

PG
1. Magic Johnson - #4
2. Oscar Robertson - #13
3. Isiah Thomas - #25
4. Bob Cousy - #26
5. John Stockton - #32
6. Walt Fraizer - #33
7. Steve Nash - #35
8. Jason Kidd - #41
9. Gary Payton - #43
10. Tiny Archibald - #57

SG
1. Michael Jordan - #1
2. Kobe Bryant - #8
3. Jerry West - #14
4. Dwyane Wade - #29
5. Clyde Drexler - #34
6. Allen Iverson - #36
7. George Gervin - #48
8. Ray Allen - #54
9. Sam Jones - #55
10. Reggie Miller - #60

SF
1. Larry Bird - #5
2. LeBron James - #11
3. Julius Erving - #15
4. Elgin Baylor - #19
5. John Havlicek - #21
6. Scottie Pippen - #27
7. Rick Barry - #28
8. Paul Arizin - #45
9. Dominique Wilkins - #47
10. Paul Pierce - #49

PF
1. Tim Duncan - #9
2. Kevin Garnett - #16
3. Karl Malone - #17
4. Charles Barkley - #18
5. Bob Pettit - #20
6. Dirk Nowitzki - #22
7. Dolph Schayes - #38
8. Kevin McHale - #40
9. Elvin Hayes - #44
10. Dennis Rodman - #50

C
1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - #2
2. Bill Russell - #3
3. Wilt Chamberlain - #6
4. Shaquille O'Neal - #7
5. Hakeem Olajuwon - #10
6. Moses Malone - #12
7. George Mikan - #23
8. David Robinson - #24
9. Willis Reed - #30
10. Patrick Ewing - #31

WillC started up a all-time defensive players list if you're intersted - http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=282359

tmacattack33
11-25-2012, 09:46 PM
So in 50 years time when the USA's population has doubled and the rules have basketball have evolved, does that mean we will need to remove LeBron James and Michael Jordan from the top 100 players list?

Well the league right now is not limited to one race, so your comparison is only half correct.

And Fulkes was a good pick, but i was just saying why he's not my pick.

crisoner
11-26-2012, 05:31 AM
Just add the players from each ranking and draw the conclusion.

For the Top 10 alone:

PG
1. Magic Johnson - #4
2. Oscar Robertson - #13
3. Isiah Thomas - #25
4. Bob Cousy - #26
5. John Stockton - #32
6. Walt Fraizer - #33
7. Steve Nash - #35
8. Jason Kidd - #41
9. Gary Payton - #43
10. Tiny Archibald - #57

SG
1. Michael Jordan - #1
2. Kobe Bryant - #8
3. Jerry West - #14
4. Dwyane Wade - #29
5. Clyde Drexler - #34
6. Allen Iverson - #36
7. George Gervin - #48
8. Ray Allen - #54
9. Sam Jones - #55
10. Reggie Miller - #60

SF
1. Larry Bird - #5
2. LeBron James - #11
3. Julius Erving - #15
4. Elgin Baylor - #19
5. John Havlicek - #21
6. Scottie Pippen - #27
7. Rick Barry - #28
8. Paul Arizin - #45
9. Dominique Wilkins - #47
10. Paul Pierce - #49

PF
1. Tim Duncan - #9
2. Kevin Garnett - #16
3. Karl Malone - #17
4. Charles Barkley - #18
5. Bob Pettit - #20
6. Dirk Nowitzki - #22
7. Dolph Schayes - #38
8. Kevin McHale - #40
9. Elvin Hayes - #44
10. Dennis Rodman - #50

C
1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - #2
2. Bill Russell - #3
3. Wilt Chamberlain - #6
4. Shaquille O'Neal - #7
5. Hakeem Olajuwon - #10
6. Moses Malone - #12
7. George Mikan - #23
8. David Robinson - #24
9. Willis Reed - #30
10. Patrick Ewing - #31

Great lists!!!

My last pick......

Manu!!!!

Legends66NBA7
11-26-2012, 05:52 AM
Great lists!!!

My last pick......

Manu!!!!

Rasheed Wallace already won the Top 100th spot.

crisoner
12-04-2012, 01:16 PM
Rasheed Wallace already won the Top 100th spot.

Lol sheeeeeeeed!!!

M.Bustly15A5RU8
12-04-2012, 01:19 PM
Stopped following this thread when Wilt wasn't even in the top 3.

Deuce Bigalow
12-04-2012, 08:33 PM
Voting has been done. The final thread with the full list is here - http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=282470