The Lakers Are Fast Running Out Of Scapegoats

[DonDadda59]

First it was all Mike Brown's fault. Now it's all on Pau. If and when Pau is shipped out and the Lakers still suck, who will bear the blame?

Dwight?
World Peace?
Nash?
D'Antoni?

Bean is untouchable in the LA fanbase's eyes, even on nights when he goes 7-23, so that's not an option. What say you Lakers fans... who's your next pariah going to be?

[flipogb]

Steve Blake, but I think hel play well under D'Antoni.

so if the Lakers suck, then they suck.

at least they got rid if all the scapegoats to find out what they really have.

[KG215]

First it was all Mike Brown's fault. Now it's all on Pau. If and when Pau is shipped out and the Lakers still suck, who will bear the blame?

Dwight?
World Peace?
Nash?
D'Antoni?

Bean is untouchable in the LA fanbase's eyes, even on nights when he goes 7-23, so that's not an option. What say you Lakers fans... who's your next pariah going to be?
I think Kobe is only untouchable in the eyes of the most passionate Kobe stans. Still, Kobe has been the only Laker player that's showed up on a consistent basis and played at a high level basically every night. I'm pretty sure this was his first bad shooting game of the season, which is pretty damn incredible given their season is now 13 games old.

I haven't watched all of the last two games (mainly saw just the 4th quarters of the Kings an Grizzlies games) so I don't know why Howard is getting so few shots/touches, but he'll probably be the next scapegoat.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

B-bu-butt, Kobe's 7-23 night and shitty defense has nothing to do w/ the Lakers woes. Ship Pau Gasol's azz out. Now that's a plan!

....Steve Nash is next!!!

[Heavincent]

Kobe is literally the last of the Lakers' problems right now. He's been the best and most consistent player on the Lakers by FAR. Anybody who's been watching the games can see that.

lol at the OP implying that Kobe is the problem.

[Nevaeh]

It's just hard for some peeps to believe that their team can get bad, while other teams improve. Keep in mind this is something a lot of ISHers are going through for the first time in their adult lives, but the NBA has always been like that. Players get old and slow, while other players start entering their prime.

There's really no reason to scapegoat anybody, seeing as how the Lakers lost in the playoffs 2 years in a row, with 2 different coaches. And trading players won't be the magic bullet, because those new players will still have to learn how to play in a totally new environment, unlike guys who've been on the same team for years now.

[RazorBaLade]

our 3rd string pg is starting you crackheads

[RazorBaLade]

It's just hard for some peeps to believe that their team can get bad, while other teams improve. Keep in mind this is something a lot of ISHers are going through for the first time in their adult lives, but the NBA has always been like that. Players get old and slow, while other players start entering their prime.

There's really no reason to scapegoat anybody, seeing as how the Lakers lost in the playoffs 2 years in a row, with 2 different coaches. And trading players won't be the magic bullet, because those new players will still have to learn how to play in a totally new environment, unlike guys who've been on the same team for years now.

can u leave this forum if the lakers dont improve when nash gets back?

[swag2011]

Yet, we haven't played with our starting PG at all this season. He's played all of 1.5 games. Not to mention our players have learned 2 different systems this month.

Sure, lakers are old and slow. is that what you wanted to hear? Or do you want to hear that Kobe is the biggest problem and he should be amnestied?

There, feel better?

[BallsOut]

I think Kobe is only untouchable in the eyes of the most passionate Kobe stans. Still, Kobe has been the only Laker player that's showed up on a consistent basis and played at a high level basically every night. I'm pretty sure this was his first bad shooting game of the season, which is pretty damn incredible given their season is now 13 games old.

I haven't watched all of the last two games (mainly saw just the 4th quarters of the Kings an Grizzlies games) so I don't know why Howard is getting so few shots/touches, but he'll probably be the next scapegoat.

Howard had 5 turnovers tonight. It's hard to get touches when you get stripped constantly by your defender in the post. :confusedshrug:

[DirkNowitzki41]

they need more superstars. :roll:

[Nevaeh]

can u leave this forum if the lakers dont improve when nash gets back?

WTF is with you soft ass posters wanting everybody leaving , when someone posts something that you don't like?

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This is a basketball forum of opinions, and nothing I said was trolling. Get the f@ck over yourself, and accept that not everybody thinks like you.

[tpols]

Lakers just need some shooters and a good point guard, which they have just not now. I mean Christ I've never seen such poor shooting from a team in my life. And this stuff isn't new.. They've had shit shooting from the perimeter since like 08.

And Dwight looks nothing like he did in Orlando. Goes to show you what poor spacing can do to a center.

[Legends66NBA7]

It was a team problem tonight. Everybody is to blame, not just 1 singular player.

In my eyes, yes Kobe should get the majority of the blame regardless of how he plays (good or bad) because he is their best player and he is their leader, because he would get the majority of the praise if they win in dominant fashion unless we look at the context of it. That is how should be with every team.

Now, if someone wanted to talk about who is the pecking order for the blame for the Lakers tonight ? Then that is a different question altogether and what everyone should be asking.

[DonDadda59]

our 3rd string pg is starting you crackheads


can u leave this forum if the lakers dont improve when nash gets back?

The Lakers were at their worst this year when Nash was starting. Including the preseason, they were something ridiculous like 0-10 with Nash. I wouldn't hold my breath on him being your savior if I was you :oldlol:

[DuMa]

Jim Buss

[wang4three]

It's kinda hilarious to watch Laker fans complain about their team and not being well equipped or having the right parts.. I mean seriously, there are a legion of teams making more with less and they feel they have the right to complain about not having the parts? Tell that story to Bucks, Hawks, or Sixers fans who are making the most out of the roster. Hell, even the Warriors and Mavs are above .500. Give me a break.

[The_Yearning]

Should have hired Phil Jackson. What were these clowns (Jim Bus) thinking?

[RazorBaLade]

WTF is with you soft ass posters wanting everybody leaving , when someone posts something that you don't like?

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This is a basketball forum of opinions, and nothing I said was trolling. Get the f@ck over yourself, and accept that not everybody thinks like you.

theres only so much leeway you have in your opinion before its just completely moronic. Youre only entitled to an INFORMED opinion. If youre saying something as ludicrous as the lakers wont look better in 30 games with nash, there needs to be some sort of punishment if you are wrong. You cant just keep spouting garbage and then when youre wrong you ignore it and just spout your next shit. Put your money where your mouth is.


The Lakers were at their worst this year when Nash was starting. Including the preseason, they were something ridiculous like 0-10 with Nash. I wouldn't hold my breath on him being your savior if I was you :oldlol:

because we had howard and dantoni then right?

Ok. The lakers will finish .500 this season. this is what you dolts seriously believe

[DonDadda59]

because we had howard and dantoni then right?

Just cautioning you that hoping that 38 year old injured Steve Nash will be your savior will not work out for you.


Ok. The lakers will finish .500 this season. this is what you dolts seriously believe

Nah, just that I will be surprised if they make it out of the first round this year. My original prediction was a third straight 2nd round exit, but the Lake Show has regressed this year, probably worse than they were last year, especially on D.

[Legends66NBA7]

theres only so much leeway you have in your opinion before its just completely moronic. Youre only entitled to an INFORMED opinion. If youre saying something as ludicrous as the lakers wont look better in 30 games with nash, there needs to be some sort of punishment if you are wrong. You cant just keep spouting garbage and then when youre wrong you ignore it and just spout your next shit. Put your money where your mouth is.

This is really deserves for someone to leave ?:


It's just hard for some peeps to believe that their team can get bad, while other teams improve. Keep in mind this is something a lot of ISHers are going through for the first time in their adult lives, but the NBA has always been like that. Players get old and slow, while other players start entering their prime.

There's really no reason to scapegoat anybody, seeing as how the Lakers lost in the playoffs 2 years in a row, with 2 different coaches. And trading players won't be the magic bullet, because those new players will still have to learn how to play in a totally new environment, unlike guys who've been on the same team for years now.

:wtf:

[Nevaeh]

theres only so much leeway you have in your opinion before its just completely moronic. Youre only entitled to an INFORMED opinion. If youre saying something as ludicrous as the lakers wont look better in 30 games with nash, there needs to be some sort of punishment if you are wrong. You cant just keep spouting garbage and then when youre wrong you ignore it and just spout your next shit. Put your money where your mouth is.



because we had howard and dantoni then right?

Ok. The lakers will finish .500 this season. this is what you dolts seriously believe

like Don Dadda said: Lakers 0-10 WITH Nash. Now why don't YOU snap the f@ck out of "Moron- Land" clown.

[RazorBaLade]

like Don Dadda said: Lakers 0-10 WITH Nash. Now why don't YOU snap the f@ck out of "Moron- Land" clown.

not with howard and nash and dantoni


Just cautioning you that hoping that 38 year old injured Steve Nash will be your savior will not work out for you.



Nah, just that I will be surprised if they make it out of the first round this year. My original prediction was a third straight 2nd round exit, but the Lake Show has regressed this year, probably worse than they were last year, especially on D.

considering we arent even .500 right now nash taking us to a 1st round exit actually does kind of make him a savior. of course i also assume howard will pick his play up and be a t5 nba player by the end of the year as well, i dont see anything worth judging right now.


This is really deserves for someone to leave ?:



:wtf:

i just know hes trolling so its obvious hes not gonna make a bet like that - he knows damn well the lakers are going to be better by the end of the year.

[TryToBeUnbias]

Laker fans haven't liked Gasols effort since last season honestly.

Im not sure whats going on with Dwight but Im sure he'll bounce back.

Nash knows this system better than anyone + he is there starting PG so yeah they kind of miss him.

I for one expect Metta to be inconsistent at this point but Im hopping that changes this season.

Kobes had a bad shooting night but he's been the only consistent laker thus far during the season which is why hes getting a pass more so than others.

It's on Mike'D to make adjustments according to his personnel but he just got there and it's still early.

Edit: Although I'm aware of his willingness to make those adjustments if they can't find a proper trade then he'd have to adjust.

[I<3NBA]

it would amuse me to no end if only Kobe remained in this current team and everyone else were traded, and Lakers continue to lose. and then they trade Kobe for a Nuggets-like roster and they start winning. :banana:

[Clippersfan86]

I gotta say Lakers fans kept killing me for saying Mike Brown didn't deserve the blame and you guys kept saying "See we won 3 in a row once he left!!" but now you lost by 16 to the Kings and tonight to the Grizzlies. Point is it's a valid point to say certain Lakers fans will continue assigning one scapegoat after another.

Then when they win with what they have they will act like they always knew and believed that would happen.

[andremiller07]

I gotta say Lakers fans kept killing me for saying Mike Brown didn't deserve the blame and you guys kept saying "See we won 3 in a row once he left!!" but now you lost by 16 to the Kings and tonight to the Grizzlies. Point is it's a valid point to say certain Lakers fans will continue assigning one scapegoat after another.

Then when they win with what they have they will act like they always knew and believed that would happen.

I agree about the Mike Brown thing to me it just seemed that they didn't want to play for him rather than the system being poor, that was on the players not the coach, coach can't really do much when his players refuse to put in maximum effort. Normally when a coach gets fired the next 2-3 games the players play hard than fall back into what happend before, on top of that the wins they had were vs a Kings team without Cousins, Warriors team without Bogut, and below 500. teams in Houston and Suns, i'm fair sure Mike Brown woulda done as well if not better had the players actually wanted to play for him.

[DaSeba5]

I agree about the Mike Brown thing to me it just seemed that they didn't want to play for him rather than the system being poor, that was on the players not the coach, coach can't really do much when his players refuse to put in maximum effort. Normally when a coach gets fired the next 2-3 games the players play hard than fall back into what happend before, on top of that the wins they had were vs a Kings team without Cousins, Warriors team without Bogut, and below 500. teams in Houston and Suns, i'm fair sure Mike Brown woulda done as well if not better had the players actually wanted to play for him.

Agreed. I didn't see a lot of effort from the Lakers when they were playing under Brown. They played with no energy. They still have a lot of problems, but if they played with more energy Mike Brown would still be the coach.

[andremiller07]

Agreed. I didn't see a lot of effort from the Lakers when they were playing under Brown. They played with no energy. They still have a lot of problems, but if they played with more energy Mike Brown would still be the coach.

The more I look at it maybe people within the org (players included) thought Phil was gonna come back so the team tanked games (while Mike was there) in hope of getting him but it back-fired and now that its unlikely they will get him to coach this year cause of how things turned out with the Datoni situation they realise they have to start playing hard again.

You can't tell me Mike Brown is a bad coach when he got the Cavs into the NBA finals where Sasha Pavlovic was pretty much the number 2 scoring option along with Gooden, I know Lebrons amazing but come on that team was the worest NBA finals team of all time pretty much.

[Sharmer]

Teams can go on the run, anytime in the NBA, we will have a better idea, of the how the Lakers will fair this year, when Nash is back and healthy.

[andgar923]

I think the Lakers will be just fine.

They're still a bit banged up, have a new coach, a new system, new players, it'll take them time to gel together but they'll eventually get there.

I do agree with the main point the op is making tho.

Laker fans *ahem* Kobe fans, are always quick to place the blame on somebody else.

But as I said, ya'll shouldn't worry, in a month or two they'll be the top dogs in the West.

[RazorBaLade]

I gotta say Lakers fans kept killing me for saying Mike Brown didn't deserve the blame and you guys kept saying "See we won 3 in a row once he left!!" but now you lost by 16 to the Kings and tonight to the Grizzlies. Point is it's a valid point to say certain Lakers fans will continue assigning one scapegoat after another.

Then when they win with what they have they will act like they always knew and believed that would happen.

we're still way better without brown. cant deny that.

[Sharmer]

we're still way better without brown. cant deny that.


I agree, you could tell the players didn't believe in Princeton.

[longtime lurker]

God this site is unbearable as soon as Kobe has a bad game

[andremiller07]

I agree, you could tell the players didn't believe in Princeton.

No they didn't beleive in Mike Brown and never actually gave it a proper go so we don't actually know how good/bad coach Mike is when he never had a chance this year.

[Sharmer]

No they didn't beleive in Mike Brown and never actually gave it a proper go so we don't actually know how good/bad coach Mike is when he never had a chance this year.

Contrary to the opinion of many, Mike Brown, does have good coaching intellect, however you're right, he never got the chance.

Conversely, the Laker team, has been designed to win now, and not in the future, therefore they gave him the chop.

He'll be back, I had doubts that D'Antoni would make it back to coach a NBA team and he did.

[Nevaeh]

Contrary to the opinion of many, Mike Brown, does have good coaching intellect, however you're right, he never got the chance.

Conversely, the Laker team, has been designed to win now, and not in the future, therefore they gave him the chop.

He'll be back, I had doubts that D'Antoni would make it back to coach a NBA team and he did.

I think that Mike Brown is better suited coaching younger players that he can take time to mold in his "Image", so to speak. Coaching vets that are set in their ways takes a special kind of coach.

[Sharmer]

I think that Mike Brown is better suited coaching younger players that he can take time to mold in his "Image", so to speak. Coaching vets that are set in their ways takes a special kind of coach.


He could probably work with Vet's, but vet's who haven't won a ring, their kind of less set in their ways, because their still after that elusive ring.

[clipps]

Kobe is literally the last of the Lakers' problems right now. He's been the best and most consistent player on the Lakers by FAR. ]Anybody who's been watching the games can see that.

lol at the OP implying that Kobe is the problem.

I found the problem.

[Legends66NBA7]

I think that Mike Brown is better suited coaching younger players that he can take time to mold in his "Image", so to speak. Coaching vets that are set in their ways takes a special kind of coach.

Nah Nev, even in Cleveland, James didn't even respect him that much as a coach. Sure, they won a lot of games but they were regular season team and their arrogance cost them in the playoffs (outside of James, for the most part).

I do think a younger team with not that much superstar minded players (Detroit ? Toronto ?), I can see him mold his defensive minded philosophy. But without proper offensive sets and rotations, I just don't see him as a long term head coach, but would be a good defensive coordinator assistant coach.

And yes, obviously a veteran team just isn't go buy into his coaching.

[Asiantastic]

I really liked Bickerstaff as a coach :(

Too bad D'Antoni was already hired. Otherwise it would've been great to keep him around.

His offense was more free flowing, letting the players play however they felt comfortable.

[francesco totti]

REHIRE MIKE BROWN, lol.

[onhcetum]

This is why I refuse to put Kobe higher than Duncan and Shaq on the all-time list. Does he need yet another superstar? LOL... Remember what happened from 2004-2008 before they got Pau Gasol right? Missing the playoffs and two first round exits with Kobe as the "man"... honestly, for a guy that some of you guys put in the top 5... that is pathetic.

[monkeypox]

Please, go to a Lakers board and you'll see plenty of people lay in to Kobe when he's playing bad. Of course when Laker fans do it on other boards they're called spoiled ungrateful brats.

I'm not sure if people realize this but the active roster is currently slightly worse than last years, and even last years team wasn't that great. We're currently starting the third string PG and let Sessions go in the offseason. Yeah we got Howard but we also lost Bynum. People keep making it out like this team is the same as last years only with Howard and Nash. So really we've got a severe downgrade at PG while Nash is out and a moderate upgrade at center. On top of this a new coach and the idiot son of the owner running things. There's plenty of blame to go around.

[monkeypox]

This is why I refuse to put Kobe higher than Duncan and Shaq on the all-time list. Does he need yet another superstar? LOL... Remember what happened from 2004-2008 before they got Pau Gasol right? Missing the playoffs and two first round exits with Kobe as the "man"... honestly, for a guy that some of you guys put in the top 5... that is pathetic.

Yeah the teams he was on means nothing. If you're the best you have to get to the finals as the man regardless of who you have around you. The team was attempting to rebuild those years and was actually on their way up before they got Bynum. Factor in how tough the west was and still is. They still almost upset a stacked Suns team with that makeup.

[LakersFan626]

The more I look at it maybe people within the org (players included) thought Phil was gonna come back so the team tanked games (while Mike was there) in hope of getting him but it back-fired and now that its unlikely they will get him to coach this year cause of how things turned out with the Datoni situation they realise they have to start playing hard again.

You can't tell me Mike Brown is a bad coach when he got the Cavs into the NBA finals where Sasha Pavlovic was pretty much the number 2 scoring option along with Gooden, I know Lebrons amazing but come on that team was the worest NBA finals team of all time pretty much.

MWP as primary backup shooting guard, with a well-known three point shooter in Meeks rotting away on the bench
Blake, Morris, and EBANKS all playing backup shooting guard
Sessions and Barnes being a good combo, then rarely playing with each other
Forcing a system on Steve Nash, thus giving him restrictions
Steve Blake guarding Andre Miller, OJ Mayo, James Harden, and RUSSELL WESTBROOK
Lacking good shooters, yet benches Meeks
Lineups like Dwight/Hill/Jamison/Morris/MWP and Sessions/Blake/MWP/Pau/McRoberts getting many minutes of playing time
Goudelock lighting it up from deep and providing bench scoring for several games, yet is benched for whatever reason when Blake returned and then cut from the team (imagine him and Meeks playing along the big 4?)

Not a bad coach at all. :wtf:

Mike Brown WAS the problem, as they played very well under Bernie, but D'Antoni is another coach that has a specific system that players MUST follow, and has a reputation for very bad defensive teams, while having bad/mediocre teams without a prime Nash. Phil has his own system as well, but has the rings to back it up and is a master of managing egos, which Brown and D'Antoni aren't.

[NumberSix]

The more I look at it maybe people within the org (players included) thought Phil was gonna come back so the team tanked games (while Mike was there) in hope of getting him but it back-fired and now that its unlikely they will get him to coach this year cause of how things turned out with the Datoni situation they realise they have to start playing hard again.

You can't tell me Mike Brown is a bad coach when he got the Cavs into the NBA finals where Sasha Pavlovic was pretty much the number 2 scoring option along with Gooden, I know Lebrons amazing but come on that team was the worest NBA finals team of all time pretty much.
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[monkeypox]

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It's a result of the new stats based fan. Brown gets team to finals = he is a good coach. The numbers prove it! Nevermind he had LeBron... in the historically weak East... and he left his assistants to coach. Nope, none of that matters because the stats say he's a good coach. That's how the Lakers ended up with him as coach. Jim Buss is a stats monkey.

[Kobe 4 The Win]

The people that are highlighting one night of bad shooting for Kobe are nuts. Kobe is shooting the lights out this year and he is the ony one that's keeping us in games most nights. We are down 2 point guards, Dwight still isn't 100% and Pau in't playing like himself. We will figure it out just like Miami eventually did. I hope it happens soon so the front office doesn't feel like they have to trade Pau.

[Bandito]

Why is everybody jumping ship and whining already? All the problems this team has has to do with Chemistry, that's it. Let them play together for awhile and see what happens. When they get used to play together they will start to play better defense too. Dwight is obviously getting in shape after not playing in month and Nash is out anyways....

[ihoopallday]

This Laker team just isn't that good. Maybe they'll get it together late in the season. But the way Laker fans were talking when Howard arrived, you'd expect them to be undefeated right now.

[TaLvsCuaL]

Pau has been the scapegoat for a long time. Whenever the Lakers lose a game someone always comes up with the finger pointing towards Gasol. Remember that shit about white/black swan.

I've said many times, Pau is not happy with the Lakers in the last 2 years, and watching him play so far from the rim is a disgrace and a waste of talent.

The perimeter defense is a problem. A system that takes him away from the paint is a problem. The constant transfer rumors is a problem, and contempt shown towards him is a problem.

In my opinion Pau is not the problem, has not been the problem in the past, and nor will be in the future.

[yeaaaman]

People are so knee jerk on this site when it comes to everything. They'll figure it out. They might not win the title or even make the finals, but they'll be a lot better than they are right now. Dwight wasn't even supposed to be back until what, Jan. or Feb. and he was playing at the start of the season. He hasn't recovered or worked himself into game shape yet, they haven't even played a handful of games with their starting pg. Things will work out eventually, they just got to their 3rd coach in what, 13 games or so?

The title isn't given out today. A lot of teams, the Lakers included, have time to figure things out. This happens every year. :sleeping

[IGOTGAME]

Pau has been the scapegoat for a long time. Whenever the Lakers lose a game someone always comes up with the finger pointing towards Gasol. Remember that shit about white/black swan.

I've said many times, Pau is not happy with the Lakers in the last 2 years, and watching him play so far from the rim is a disgrace and a waste of talent.

The perimeter defense is a problem. A system that takes him away from the paint is a problem. The constant transfer rumors is a problem, and contempt shown towards him is a problem.

In my opinion Pau is not the problem, has not been the problem in the past, and nor will be in the future.

Right now this is the system. The system requires Pau being far from the paint. That is a "waste of his talent." I don't agree with the system but if this is what they are going to run then they have to move him. Honestly, I don't care either way because this team isn't going to win this way. They should have either keep Mike Brown or got Phil back. Mike DAntoni won't win playing this way.

[secund2nun]

This is why I refuse to put Kobe higher than Duncan and Shaq on the all-time list. Does he need yet another superstar? LOL... Remember what happened from 2004-2008 before they got Pau Gasol right? Missing the playoffs and two first round exits with Kobe as the "man"... honestly, for a guy that some of you guys put in the top 5... that is pathetic.

Kobe is good but very overrated. Prime Kobe did indeed fail to get past the first round in the 3 chances he had. No different than prime Tmac, prime Wade. None of those 3 guys could get past the first round by themselves without some type of dominant teammates like Shaq or a Bynum/Gasol front court.

The overrating of Kobe is the product of the big market hype and low BB IQ.

[secund2nun]

Yeah the teams he was on means nothing. If you're the best you have to get to the finals as the man regardless of who you have around you. The team was attempting to rebuild those years and was actually on their way up before they got Bynum. Factor in how tough the west was and still is. They still almost upset a stacked Suns team with that makeup.

You mean the series when Amare was out for the entire series and they choked a 3-1 lead?

[longtime lurker]

Kobe is good but very overrated. Prime Kobe did indeed fail to get past the first round in the 3 chances he had. No different than prime Tmac, prime Wade. None of those 3 guys could get past the first round by themselves without some type of dominant teammates like Shaq or a Bynum/Gasol front court.

The overrating of Kobe is the product of the big market hype and low BB IQ.

Please just shut up. You have no idea what you're talking about.

[All Net]

Kobe is not the issue here...he has played far better than anybody expected.

[secund2nun]

Please just shut up. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Yes great argument.

It's the truth. It really is.

[Mr. Incredible]

I laugh when Lakers fans think they will just beat down the Heat if they meet in the Finals. :roll:

They will be so beat up and tired by the time they get there. Miami will just run right by them. Make Howard shoot free throws and collect another ring.

[IGOTGAME]

I laugh when Lakers fans think they will just beat down the Heat if they meet in the Finals. :roll:

They will be so beat up and tired by the time they get there. Miami will just run right by them. Make Howard shoot free throws and collect another ring.

This team isn't good. They will be lucky to make it out the first round.

[oh the horror]

Why do people act like this is a phenomenon with ONLY the Laker fans?


We see a player playing like shit, we note it.


Are you all going to sit back and tell Laker fans that Steve Blake, Metta, or Pau havent been in and out of playing poorly throughout the year?


It isnt about scapegoats. Its about recognizing the realities of the situation and it being what it is.



We saw it in NYC. We saw it in Miami. People were calling for their coaches head. People were suggesting to trade Wade, etc.




So why is this such a "thing" when it comes to LA fans?

[Clippersfan86]

I should clarify. Brown absolutely was a bad fit and hiring BUT Lakers fans have zero business calling him the worst coach in the league etc when the guy made it to the finals with a shit roster, had multiple ECF runs in Cleveland and won COTY. Lebron and the Cavs bought into his system and won so it's only fair to assign blame to the Lakers players for not buying in and giving 100 percent.

I said it weeks ago I'll say it again.... Brown was ONE of the multiple problems the Lakers currently have. Yet a good amount of Lakers fans seemed to think 3 straight wins proved that Brown's firing was THE only or main fix the team needed.

[IGOTGAME]

I should clarify. Brown absolutely was a bad fit and hiring BUT Lakers fans have zero business calling him the worst coach in the league etc when the guy made it to the finals with a shit roster, had multiple ECF runs in Cleveland and won COTY. Lebron and the Cavs bought into his system and won so it's only fair to assign blame to the Lakers players for not buying in and giving 100 percent.

I said it weeks ago I'll say it again.... Brown was ONE of the multiple problems the Lakers currently have. Yet a good amount of Lakers fans seemed to think 3 straight wins proved that Brown's firing was THE only or main fix the team needed.


Lakers should have keep Mike brown. He is a better coach than Mike DAntoni.

[TexasBloodMoney]

Why do people act like this is a phenomenon with ONLY the Laker fans?


We see a player playing like shit, we note it.


Are you all going to sit back and tell Laker fans that Steve Blake, Metta, or Pau havent been in and out of playing poorly throughout the year?


It isnt about scapegoats. Its about recognizing the realities of the situation and it being what it is.


We saw it in NYC. We saw it in Miami. People were calling for their coaches head. People were suggesting to trade Wade, etc.




So why is this such a "thing" when it comes to LA fans?

Because laker fans make 1000 threads after every loss with 2 topics:
-Trade Gasol
-Fire Brown/Dantoni

Not saying you specifically but laker fans (and Heat//Knick fans for that matter) should maybe use the team forums more instead of flooding the Main Forum with the same shit everyday about how it's SO tough to be a fan of their big market team.

[tpols]

Lakers should have keep Mike brown. He is a better coach than Mike DAntoni.
They shouldnt have snubbed phil. Dantoni is a fvcking joke though:facepalm

[DonDadda59]

http://lakers.topbuzz.com/gallery/d/295630-1/Laker+teammates+Andrew+Bynum+and+Pau+Gasol+have+a+ conversation+on+the+bench.JPG

Bynum: "$5 says they still blame this loss on you"

[Noob Saibot]

This is a great day on Insidehoops. :lol

[Sarcastic]

In the last 2 games combined, they have given up 74 points total in the 4th quarter. That's no single player's fault. That's the coach's fault.

[DonDadda59]

First it was all Mike Brown's fault. Now it's all on Pau. If and when Pau is shipped out and the Lakers still suck, who will bear the blame?

Dwight?
World Peace?
Nash?
D'Antoni?

Bean is untouchable in the LA fanbase's eyes, even on nights when he goes 7-23, so that's not an option. What say you Lakers fans... who's your next pariah going to be?

This week, it's all Dwight Howard's fault. Congrats big guy :applause:

[RandomBalla55]

The wheel of blame circles around.

Next week it'll be Jamison or some shit since he can't score off the bench or something.

[Doranku]

Jordan stans are pathetic. :facepalm

[DonDadda59]

Dwight Howard out with injury again, Lakers get thrashed? Time to step up to the plate, Steve Nash (http://insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=288399) :applause:

http://data.whicdn.com/images/3787486/tumblr_l8chmpqp4d1qdoghio1_500_thumb.png

[TheBigVeto]

Kobe is the real problem.

[Jacks3]

So you're saying that it's all Kobe's fault. :biggums:

[TheBigVeto]

So you're saying that it's all Kobe's fault. :biggums:


Yup

http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh600/Rodman2124/kobeclutch.gif

[chains5000]

This article (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/trade-rumors-swirling-point-several-angry-fingers-members-175929238--nba.html) about LA's really good, gives a great analysis about their season.

[Qwertyazerty]

This article (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/trade-rumors-swirling-point-several-angry-fingers-members-175929238--nba.html) about LA's really good, gives a great analysis about their season.

Nice read and hard to disagree on any point. thank you