Novak: Melo Is The Best Player in the NBA

[NewYorkNoPicks]

"Carmelo Anthony heard chants of

[plowking]

Novak is clearly mentally impaired, but I agree that Melo is the MVP as of now.

[Eric Cartman]

Both him and Lebron have been playing awesome so far. Would love to see an epic playoff series between them 2.

[selrahc]

i think hes better than lebron but not as good as kobe

[DaSeba5]

It's his teammate so.... :confusedshrug:

[SilkkTheShocker]

Agreed with Novak. Melo's extensive list of NBA achievements speaks for itself.

[Patrick Chewing]

White guy saying this so this = knowledge which in turn = truth

[pauk]

Its his teammate, ofcourse he is gona say something as silly as that.... and i hope some peoples comments here are not serious, especially that "selrahc" guy...

[LoneyROY7]

This is 'Melo's season.

He ain't stopping.

[Young X]

Not even top 7.

[LoneyROY7]

Not even top 7.

:facepalm

[PyrrhusX]

This is 'Melo's season.

He ain't stopping.

inb4 Amare :lol
But honestly, glad that he has stepped up his game from last year. Definitely a top 10 player, but not as high as Novak implies.

[NewYorkNoPicks]

It's his teammate so.... :confusedshrug:

Tim Tebows teammates call him "terrible" :confusedshrug:

[Patrick Chewing]

Can we at least acknowledge that he's a more prolific scorer than Lebron is??? That's all that matters.

[Legends66NBA7]

Best player ? Probably not, though he's playing pretty good. Top 5, IMO.

MVP for the season ? Perhaps him and Durant are the front runners for the award.

[Noob Saibot]

Year of the Melo??? :biggums:

[bluechox2]

Agreed with Novak. Melo's extensive list of NBA achievements speaks for itself.
how does past accomplishments determine if your the best atm...

[LoneyROY7]

how does past accomplishments determine if your the best atm...

He's not the sharpest tool in the shed.

[DaSeba5]

Tim Tebows teammates call him "terrible" :confusedshrug:

Either way, most teammates praise their own teammates. He's not going to say Melo is great, but LeBron is the best player in the world.

[LoneyROY7]

Anthony 'bout to take the Knicks higher.

Don't try to marsh this 'Melo, he'll burn you like a campfire.

[Trentknicks]

If things continue, Lebron is still the better player.

But Melo is the MVP.

[RRR3]

Can we at least acknowledge that he's a more prolific scorer than Lebron is??? That's all that matters.
Sigh.




Since 2003-04 (when Melo entered the league), here's how the best scorers in the NBA stack up. Keep in mind some guys haven't played every year since 2003-04, but still are on this list.


Most Top 10 Finishes in Qualifying PPG since 2003-04
1. Kobe Bryant, 9
2. Tie-LeBron James and Dirk Nowitzki, 8
4. Carmelo Anthony, 7
5. Dwyane Wade, 5
6. Tie-Kevin Durant, Amar'e Stoudemire, Michael Redd and Allen Iverson
10. Tie-Tracy McGrady, Vince Carter, Chris Bosh, Gilbert Arenas and Ray Allen


Most Top 5 Finishes in Qualifying PPG since 2003-04
1. Kobe Bryant, 9
2. LeBron James, 8
3. Tie-Dwyane Wade and Carmelo Anthony, 4
5. Tie-Kevin Durant and Allen Iverson, 3
7. Tie-Dirk Nowitzki, Gilbert Arenas and Amar'e Stoudemire


Most Top 3 Finishes in Qualifying PPG since 2003-04
1. LeBron James, 7
2. Kobe Bryant, 6
3. Tie-Carmelo Anthony, Kevin Durant and Allen Iverson, 3
6. Tie-Dwyane Wade, Tracy McGrady, Kevin Garnett, and Gilbert Arenas, 1


Most Top 2 Finishes in Qualifying PPG since 2003-04
1. Kobe Bryant, 5
2. LeBron James, 4
3. Kevin Durant, 3
4. Allen Iverson, 2
5. Tie-Tracy McGrady, Dwyane Wade, and Carmelo Anthony


Most NBA Leaders in Qualifying PPG since 2003-04
1. Kevin Durant, 3
2. Kobe Bryant, 2
3. Tie-LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Tracy McGrady and Allen Iverson, 1
Melo ABSENT!


Most 25+ PPG seasons since 2003-04 (minimum half of team's games played)
1. Tie-LeBron James and Kobe Bryant, 8
3. Tie-Allen Iverson, Dwyane Wade and Carmelo Anthony, 5
6. Tie-Kevin Durant and Dirk Nowitzki,4
8. Tie-Amare Stoudemire and Gilbert Arenas, 3
10. Tie-Tracy McGrady, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, and Michael Redd


Most 30+ PPG seasons since 2003-04 (minimum half of team's games played)
1. Tie-Kobe Bryant, LeBron James and Allen Iverson, 2
4. Tie-Dwyane Wade and Kevin Durant, 1
Melo missing again!

Most games of 40+ points since 2003-04
1. Kobe Bryant, 86
2. LeBron James, 48
3. Tie-Dwyane Wade and Allen Iverson, 32
5. Gilbert Arenas, 28
6. Tracy McGrady, 23
7. Tie-Carmelo Anthony, Kevin Durant and Vince Carter, 21
10. Amar'e Stoudemire, 18


Most games of 50+ points since 2003-04
1. Kobe Bryant, 19
2. LeBron James, 9
3. Allen Iverson, 6
4. Tie-Dwyane Wade and Gilbert Arenas, 3
5. Tie-Tracy McGrady, Dirk Nowitzki, Carmelo Anthony, and Michael Redd


Most 60+ points since 2003-04
1. Kobe Bryant, 5
2. Tie-Tracy McGrady, Allen Iverson and Gilbert Arenas, 1


LeBron 47.0% from 10-15 and 39.0% from 16-23 feet in 2011-12.
http://www.hoopdata.com/shotstats.aspx?team=%25&type=pg&posi=%25&yr=2012&gp2=0&mins=0

Carmelo 42.3% from 10-15 feet and 35.0% from 16-23 in 2011-12.
http://www.hoopdata.com/shotstats.aspx?team=%25&type=pg&posi=%25&yr=2012&gp2=0&mins=0




LeBron 44.7% from 10-15 and 45.0% from 16-23 in 2010-11.
http://www.hoopdata.com/shotstats.aspx?team=%25&type=pg&posi=%25&yr=2011&gp2=0&mins=0

Carmelo 36.8% from 10-15 feet and 40.0% from 16-23 in 2010-11.
http://www.hoopdata.com/shotstats.aspx?team=%25&type=pg&posi=%25&yr=2011&gp2=0&mins=0


2003-04:
LeBron: 20.9 PPG on .417/.290/.754 in regular season.
Melo: 21.0 PPG on .426/.322/.777 in regular season. 15.0 on .328/.182/.800 in playoffs.


2004-05:
LeBron: 27.2 on .472/.351/.750 in regular season.
Melo: 20.8 on .431/.266/.796 in regular season. 19.2 on .422/.000/.813 in playoffs.


2005-06:
LeBron: 31.4 on .480/.335/.738 in regular season. 30.8 on .476/.333/.737 in playoffs.
Melo: 26.5 on .481/.243/.808 in regular season. 21.0 on .333/.000/.750 in playoffs.


2006-07
LeBron: 27.3 on .476/.319/.698 in regular season. 25.1 on .416/.280/.755 in playoffs.
Melo: 28.9 on .476/.268/.808 in regular season. 26.8 on .480/.500/.795 in playoffs.


2007-08
LeBron: 30.0 (led NBA) on .484/.315/.712 in regular season. 28.2 on .411/.257/.731 in playoffs
Melo: 25.7 on .492/.354/.786 in regular season. 22.5 on .364/.250/.828 in playoffs.


2008-09
LeBron: 28.4 on .489/.344/.780 in regular season. 35.3 (led NBA) on .510/.333/.749 in playoffs.
Melo: 22.8 on .443/.371/.793 in regular season. 27.2 on .453/.364/.826 in playoffs.


2009-10
LeBron: 29.7 on .503/.333/.767 in regular season. 29.1 on .502/.400/.733 in playoffs.
Melo: 28.2 on .458/.316/.830 in regular season. 30.7 on .464/.316/.877 in playoffs.


2010-11
LeBron: 26.7 on .510/.330/.759 in regular season. 23.7 on .466/.353/.763 in playoffs.
Melo: 25.6 on .455/.378/.838 in regular season. 26.0 on .375/.346/.853 in playoffs.


2011-12
LeBron: 27.1 on .531/.362/.771 in regular season. 30.3 (led NBA) on .500/.259/.739 in playoffs.
Melo: 22.6 on .430/.335/.804 in regular season. 27.8 on .419/.222/.756 in playoffs.





Career regular season
LeBron: 27.6 PPG on .484/.332/.747.
Melo: 24.7 PPG on .456/.323/.805.


Career Playoffs
LeBron: 28.5 PPG on .469/.312/.745.
Melo: 24.9 PPG on .419/.327/.815.



50+ point games
LeBron: 9
Melo: 2


Scoring titles
LeBron: 1
Melo: 0


Playoff leader in PPG
LeBron: 2
Melo: 0


30+ PPG
LeBron: 2
Melo: 0



30+ PPG in playoffs
LeBron: 3
Melo: 1

[Legends66NBA7]

^
I think he means this season.

[LoneyROY7]

Sigh.

:coleman:

[pauk]

Can we at least acknowledge that he's a more prolific scorer than Lebron is??? That's all that matters.

No we non-biased-Knick-fans or non-Lebron hating fans cant....

Lebron has been much more efficient & productive aka. prolific of a scorer... unless you are talking about these first 15 games so far? Even in that case it has to do with Lebron not having to be any more agressive on that end to win right now and the opposite being for Carmelo, rather than Carmelo being a more prolific scorer ability wise...

Melo is more of a scorer though, as in mindset... he is more of "1st score/shoot" guy...

..and no, thats not all that matters, much more else matters and in much else that matters is where Carmelo is lacking compared to Lebron...

[bluechox2]

lebron and kobe stans scrambling with past bullshits

[LoneyROY7]

The LBJ groupies couldn't leave this one alone.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Can we at least acknowledge that he's a more prolific scorer than Lebron is??? That's all that matters.

How many scoring titles has he won?

[DaSeba5]

lebron and kobe stans scrambling with past bullshits

I'm not a LeBron stan and even I can't agree with the Knick fans here.

[Trentknicks]

How many scoring titles has he won?
Once again fool, Novak's talking about this year. Stop using past information to fuel your bullshit agenda

[RJChPD]

Sigh.
Interesting stuff. I never bought the idea that Melo is 'more prolific' at scoring than Lebron.

[Legends66NBA7]

lebron and kobe stans scrambling with past bullshits

Who's the Kobe stan ?

[Legends66NBA7]

Once again fool, Novak's talking about this year. Stop using past information to fuel your bullshit agenda

Then Kobe and Durant > Melo at scoring this year, agreed ?

[LoneyROY7]

Then Kobe and Durant > Melo at scoring this year, agreed ?

Melo is averaging more PPG then Durant...

[Trentknicks]

Then Kobe and Durant > Melo at scoring this year, agreed ?
I wouldn't disagree with you there but dude it's obvious your only coming into here to troll and start stuff.

[longtime lurker]

Uh oh. The Lebron stans are going to come in running just because someone has a different opinion other than Lebron has been the MVP of the league for the past 15 years

[SilkkTheShocker]

So would Knicks fans rather build a franchise with Melo than Lebron?

[Legends66NBA7]

You're right, I actually didn't take into account today's game.

[pauk]

Uh oh. The Lebron stans are going to come in running just because someone has a different opinion other than Lebron has been the MVP of the league for the past 15 years

Logic, Reason, Facts > Delusional Opinions

I am talking about the "Carmelo is best player in the NBA" thoughts.... but Carmelo indeed is a top MVP contender right now

[Legends66NBA7]

I wouldn't disagree with you there but dude it's obvious your only coming into here to troll and start stuff.

Huh ? :oldlol:

I already said Melo or Durant are the frontrunners for MVP right now and I don't think Melo is the best player but is probably Top 5, IMO.

[DaSeba5]

Uh oh. The Lebron stans are going to come in running just because someone has a different opinion other than Lebron has been the MVP of the league for the past 15 years

So anyone who praises LeBron is a LeBron stan? :confusedshrug:

Melo isn't the best player in the NBA. Sorry.

[longtime lurker]

Logic, Reason, Facts > Delusional Opinions

Just because he doesn't have Lebron as the MVP his opinion is delusional :lol you guys crack me up

[Trentknicks]

For all the bashing Knicks fans cop Silkthe****** and Pauk have already ruined this thread by hating and drawing ridiculous conclusions.

Yes we realise Lebron is a better play, and is playing slightly better than Melo THIS season, but so far Melo is the MVP. How hard is it to have a reasonable conversation on ISH without Lebron and Kobe stans turning every thread into a shit fight.

[NewYorkNoPicks]

Only idiots think stats tell the whole story.

Tyreke Evans had one of the best rookie years stat wise in nba history...where is he now?

A couple more ppg, a few more 40 point games doesnt mean one player is a better scorer than another.

Use the EYE TEST. Watch the god damn game and youll see that Carmelo Anthony has the most versatile offensive game in the entire league. If he continues this play and the Knicks continue to win an MVP is definitely a possibility

[longtime lurker]

So anyone who praises LeBron is a LeBron stan? :confusedshrug:

Melo isn't the best player in the NBA. Sorry.

It's not praise, it's the uncontrollable fanboyism that tries to make Lebron the center of any basketball discussion.

[LoneyROY7]

It's not praise, it's the uncontrollable fanboyism that tries to make Lebron the center of any basketball discussion.

This. LeBron is a great player...but not every F***ING thread has to be about him.

[DaSeba5]

It's not praise, it's the uncontrollable fanboyism that tries to make Lebron the center of any basketball discussion.

I understand your point, but the thread is about Novak saying Melo is the best player in the NBA. Since people universally see LeBron as the best player in the world, his name is going to be brought up.

I don't like stans either, but that's why they brought LeBron up.

[Legends66NBA7]

A couple more ppg, a few more 40 point games doesnt mean one player is a better scorer than another.

Use the EYE TEST. Watch the god damn game and youll see that Carmelo Anthony has the most versatile offensive game in the entire league. If he continues this play and the Knicks continue to win an MVP is definitely a possibility

To the bold, which player are you referring to as not better ? And yes, I think Melo does have the a versatile offensive game, maybe not the best, but it's great.

[RRR3]

First three posts mentioning LeBron in this thread.



Both him and Lebron have been playing awesome so far. Would love to see an epic playoff series between them 2.



i think hes better than lebron but not as good as kobe



Can we at least acknowledge that he's a more prolific scorer than Lebron is??? That's all that matters.



Not sure where you're coming from here, LL.

[longtime lurker]

I understand your point, but the thread is about Novak saying Melo is the best player in the NBA. Since people universally see LeBron as the best player in the world, his name is going to be brought up.

I don't like stans either, but that's why they brought LeBron up.

Right now I actually think that Lebron's the MVP, but his crazy stans have a crusade against anyone that doesn't agree with them. The Knicks are 1 of the top teams in the NBA when everyone considered them a joke for letting Lin go and replacing him with Raymond Felton. Melo has started playing the way everyone says he should play and the Knicks are only 1 loss behind the Heat despite numerous injuries and the Heat having waaaay more talent and playing together longer. Not to mention like the Heat they haven't lost at home, so it's not unreasonable for someone to think Melo is more valuable to his team than Lebron when you take everything into consideration. But you can't tell that to the fan boys

[Smoke117]

And You're the next Ray Allen, Steve Novak. See we all got jokes.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

This. LeBron is a great player...but not every F***ING thread has to be about him.
But the purpose of this thread is to talk about lebron, durant kobe and anybody else better than melo.

it's like somebody creates a thread "lebron is the goat" and you getting mad that the thread turns into a discussion of why Jordan was better. what else did you think was going to hAppen?

[longtime lurker]

But the purpose of this thread is to talk about lebron, durant kobe and anybody else better than melo.

it's like somebody creates a thread "lebron is the goat" and you getting mad that the thread turns into a discussion of why Jordan was better. what else did you think was going to hAppen?

You see the same Lebron trolls in this thread that are in every thread about his competition. In four pages there's been like 3 posts about Durant....

[bluechox2]

this thread just crashed and burned

[NewYorkNoPicks]

this thread just crashed and burned

Yup people cant tolerate it. Their brains explode when Melo does anything positive. Its like telling an islamic fundamentalist that they dont receive 13 virgins for committing a terrorist act

[Trentknicks]

this thread just crashed and burned
More like the entire forum, eh.

[LoneyROY7]

But the purpose of this thread is to talk about lebron, durant kobe and anybody else better than melo.

it's like somebody creates a thread "lebron is the goat" and you getting mad that the thread turns into a discussion of why Jordan was better. what else did you think was going to hAppen?

No. It's the product of every LBJ stan (or Durant, Kobe) rushing to their hero's side whenever someone makes a post divergent to their own biased line of thinking.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

No. It's the product of every LBJ stan (or Durant, Kobe) rushing to their hero's side whenever someone makes a post divergent to their own biased line of thinking.
okay so you think "melo is the best player in NBA" is a reasonable stance?

[Spaulding]

We'll see if Melo can keep this up all season. I hope so. Would love to see Knicks go deep in playoffs.

[LoneyROY7]

okay so you think "melo is the best player in NBA" is a reasonable stance?

Sure. He has an argument so far this season.

He's playing with a lesser supporting cast then that of LeBron and Durant's this season, and is still producing a similiar winning percentage...all while playing at an extremely high level himself.

[bluechox2]

okay so you think "melo is the best player in NBA" is a reasonable stance?

he sure does

melo plays with felton and chandler as the best with JR every now and then (12-4 record) focal point of our offense, chandler and finally melo has taken lead role on defense

lebron plays with wade (allstar), bosh (allstar), allen (better than joe johnson) (12-3 record) lebron and wade and ocasionally bosh has been the center of offense, collectively they play defense being undersized pretty well

durant has westbrook (allstar), ibalka (playing like an allstar) and martin as their core go2guys on offense (14-4 record) they got the bigs down low to defend the paint and durant has done ok at his position

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Sure. He has an argument so far this season.

He's playing with a lesser supporting cast then that of LeBron and Durant's this season, and is still producing a similiar winning percentage...all while playing at an extremely high level himself.

playing with lesser supporting cast means more stats too. I have probably watched 10 knicks games this year And his defense is absolutely horrible.

Offensively he's been good but he's a very streaky player. i remember last march going into the playoffs he was unreal. then he fizzled out against the heat.

so far this year i would rank it like this:

Lebron
Durant
Melo

[RoundMoundOfReb]

he sure does

melo plays with felton and chandler as the best with JR every now and then (12-4 record) focal point of our offense, chandler and finally melo has taken lead role on defense

lebron plays with wade (allstar), bosh (allstar), allen (better than joe johnson) (12-3 record) lebron and wade and ocasionally bosh has been the center of offense, collectively they play defense being undersized pretty well

durant has westbrook (allstar), ibalka (playing like an allstar) and martin as their core go2guys on offense (14-4 record) they got the bigs down low to defend the paint and durant has done ok at his position

so you think derrick rose was better than Lebron and in 2010-2011?

[red1]

novak: Melo is my teammate and my friend

[LoneyROY7]

playing with lesser supporting cast means more stats too. I have probably watched 10 knicks games this year And his defense is absolutely horrible.

Offensively he's been good but he's a very streaky player. i remember last march going into the playoffs he was unreal. then he fizzled out against the heat.

so far this year i would rank it like this:

Lebron
Durant
Melo

That's a fair assessment.

[Dave3]

Sure. He has an argument so far this season.

He's playing with a lesser supporting cast then that of LeBron and Durant's this season, and is still producing a similiar winning percentage...all while playing at an extremely high level himself.
That's the point. He has an argument. Which means that others will also have an argument, and it's therefore inevitable that those other players with arguments will have posters presenting those sides.

Like Roundmound said, you can't make a thread about best player and then claim it went off topic when the name of the person most widely considered the best player comes up. It's not people changing topics, it's just an extension of the same topic.

And to repeat what someone else said too, the first 3 posts in this thread about LeBron weren't people arguing for him but against him. It wasn't a LeBron fan that mentioned him first in this thread.

[LoneyROY7]

That's the point. He has an argument. Which means that others will also have an argument, and it's therefore inevitable that those other players with arguments will have posters presenting those sides.

Like Roundmound said, you can't make a thread about best player and then claim it went off topic when the name of the person most widely considered the best player comes up. It's not people changing topics, it's just an extension of the same topic.

I should have altered my post. I'm not bothered by LeBron's name coming up per-say, but rather I'm bothered that the same stans (pauk, Silk, etc.) coming rushing to his side in virtually every thread that even hints about LeBron.

[Dave3]

I should have altered my post. I'm not bothered by LeBron's name coming up per-say, but rather I'm bothered that the same stans (pauk, Silk, etc.) coming rushing to his side in virtually every thread that even hints about LeBron.
Unfortunately that's never going to change. The same fans of the same players will be in every topic. Pauk will be in every LeBron thread the same way Heavincent will be in every Kobe thread. They're fans of those players and will always defend them.

[ace23]

Meh, he's definitely ahead of Bron in the MVP race; they're not going to give it to him James three years in a row. Lebron is still clearly the better player, though.

[NewYorkNoPicks]

playing with lesser supporting cast means more stats too. I have probably watched 10 knicks games this year And his defense is absolutely horrible.

Offensively he's been good but he's a very streaky player. i remember last march going into the playoffs he was unreal. then he fizzled out against the heat.

so far this year i would rank it like this:

Lebron
Durant
Melo

Youre flat out lying. Melos defense has been much improved

And no...less supporting cast does not equal more stats. There have been plenty of games where Melo barely plays more than a few minutes in the 4th quarter because weve had such a large lead

[PyrrhusX]

he sure does

melo plays with felton and chandler as the best with JR every now and then (12-4 record) focal point of our offense, chandler and finally melo has taken lead role on defense

lebron plays with wade (allstar), bosh (allstar), allen (better than joe johnson) (12-3 record) lebron and wade and ocasionally bosh has been the center of offense, collectively they play defense being undersized pretty well

durant has westbrook (allstar), ibalka (playing like an allstar) and martin as their core go2guys on offense (14-4 record) they got the bigs down low to defend the paint and durant has done ok at his position

Melo has not been better than Durant, and the two have not been better players than LBJ. I really didn't want to enter the argument but classifying the idea of Durant doing 'ok' in his position is ridiculous when he is averaging career highs across the board statistically. Russ has been on one night, then off the next too. I believe the Knicks are still the best offensive team in the league while being 11th defensively and are the 3rd best shooting team percentage wise. All this points to how comparable the 3 teams are.

But in terms of the MVP argument, Lebron still leads this. Wade has declined and while the heat have played in some close games, they are still winning the games and James is more-often-than-not the spark that gets them going in the 4th.

Best Player: LBJ -> Durant -> Melo
MVP: LBJ -> Melo -> Durant

That's my opinion of course.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Melo has not been better than Durant, and the two have not been better players than LBJ. I really didn't want to enter the argument but classifying the idea of Durant doing 'ok' in his position is ridiculous when he is averaging career highs across the board statistically. Russ has been on one night, then off the next too. I believe the Knicks are still the best offensive team in the league while being 11th defensively and are the 3rd best shooting team percentage wise. All this points to how comparable the 3 teams are.

But in terms of the MVP argument, Lebron still leads this. Wade has declined and while the heat have played in some close games, they are still winning the games and James is more-often-than-not the spark that gets them going in the 4th.

Best Player: LBJ -> Durant -> Melo
MVP: LBJ -> Melo -> Durant

That's my opinion of course.

Great unbias post :applause:

[fos]

My MVP list:

1.a) Lebron James
1.b) Kevin Durant

2) Carmelo Anthony

[comerb]

Tim Tebows teammates call him "terrible" :confusedshrug:

He is terrible though.

[comerb]

Meh, he's definitely ahead of Bron in the MVP race; they're not going to give it to him James three years in a row. Lebron is still clearly the better player, though.

If they're willing to give it to Lebron last year when the world hated him, they'll give it to him this year as the league posterboy who's returned to grace.

But I do think Melo is ahead of him this year, at this point (and he's ahead of Durant too). Not because he's a better player or even that he's playing better than them (his defense still sucks). But simply because the Knicks are exceeding expectations and Melo is obviously their leader.

[kurple]

Tim Tebows teammates call him "terrible" :confusedshrug:
that says more about tim tebows teammates

[Blue&Orange]

Just to point out that Melo is playing with Felton, Chandler and JR Smith, not with Bosh, Wade and Ray Allen.

:rolleyes:


Oy bluechox2 already did that.

Future rep after i spread some. So lazy.


And it's playing only 35mpg unlike Durant and Lebron.

[niko]

He's clearly not. Lebron is.

[NewYorkNoPicks]

He's clearly not. Lebron is.

Niko go trip somewhere and break your ankle. Fkn dork

[joeysms55]

Just sick of people saying Lebron has wade, bosh, or whoever and he can't win the mvp... Lebron already won a MVP with Wade and Bosh. He has nothing to prove.......

[PyrrhusX]

Just sick of people saying Lebron has wade, bosh, or whoever and he can't win the mvp... Lebron already won a MVP with Wade and Bosh. He has nothing to prove.......

I think people arnt saying he cant cant win it, they describe it as he doesnt deserve to win it with two presumable top talents. I think you got confused there, everyone knows he has carried a team and won an MVP already :cheers:

[swi7ch]

BREAKING NEWS: A teammate says one of his teammates is the best player! Ssssssssssssssshocking! A teammate complementing another teammate! This has never happened before! :facepalm

[devin112]

Tim Tebows teammates call him "terrible" :confusedshrug:

Melo is the best player on the team, of course his teammate are going to say positive things about him.

Tebow is hated on his team because he gets all the press and he's not good, of course they're going to talk shit about him

[StateOfMind12]

[QUOTE=NewYorkNoPicks]
"I think the way Carmelo

[NumberSix]

Tim Tebows teammates call him "terrible" :confusedshrug:
He is.

[GS1905]

Top 5 players in the league as of now.

1. Durant
2. Melo
3. Kobe
4. Lebron

[chosen_one6]

Top 5 players in the league as of now.

1. Durant
2. Melo
3. Kobe
4. Lebron

Nice to know that you can't even count to 5.

[GS1905]

Nice to know that you can't even count to 5.

Top 3 MVP candidates as of now

1. Durant
2. Melo

[knickswin]

If they're willing to give it to Lebron last year when the world hated him, they'll give it to him this year as the league posterboy who's returned to grace.

But I do think Melo is ahead of him this year, at this point (and he's ahead of Durant too). Not because he's a better player or even that he's playing better than them (his defense still sucks). But simply because the Knicks are exceeding expectations and Melo is obviously their leader.

I don't think the world hated lebron last season. they hated him in 2010-2011 which is when rose won the MVP

[lilgodfather1]

Best player ? Probably not, though he's playing pretty good. Top 5, IMO.

MVP for the season ? Perhaps him and Durant are the front runners for the award.
If NYK get's a top 3 seed with 50+ wins it's Melo no question about it.

This would fall under the "lead's his team to a better than expected season" like Rose, and LeBron previsouly received.

It also doesn't hurt Melo that he is playing in NY tbh. The media is 100% behind him, and it would make for a great narrative. I hope the Knicks keep it up, it's good for the NBA when they have a good team.

Edit: It makes me wonder if LeBron/Wade/Bosh had joined up in NY instead of Miami, if LeBron would have 4 straight MVP's right now? The hatred would have been lessened because he wouldn't have joined Wade's team, and the media would have loved to write the story of the King turning around the Knicks.

[PyrrhusX]

If NYK get's a top 3 seed with 50+ wins it's Melo no question about it.

This would fall under the "lead's his team to a better than expected season" like Rose, and LeBron previsouly received.

It also doesn't hurt Melo that he is playing in NY tbh. The media is 100% behind him, and it would make for a great narrative. I hope the Knicks keep it up, it's good for the NBA when they have a good team.

Edit: It makes me wonder if LeBron/Wade/Bosh had joined up in NY instead of Miami, if LeBron would have 4 straight MVP's right now? The hatred would have been lessened because he wouldn't have joined Wade's team, and the media would have loved to write the story of the King turning around the Knicks.

But wasnt alot of hatred over the idea of 'The Decision' and how he could not give the cavs a straight answer?

[Sarcastic]

If NYK get's a top 3 seed with 50+ wins it's Melo no question about it.

This would fall under the "lead's his team to a better than expected season" like Rose, and LeBron previsouly received.

It also doesn't hurt Melo that he is playing in NY tbh. The media is 100% behind him, and it would make for a great narrative. I hope the Knicks keep it up, it's good for the NBA when they have a good team.

Edit: It makes me wonder if LeBron/Wade/Bosh had joined up in NY instead of Miami, if LeBron would have 4 straight MVP's right now? The hatred would have been lessened because he wouldn't have joined Wade's team, and the media would have loved to write the story of the King turning around the Knicks.


The media in NY is not behind Melo at all. The friction between most of the Knick beat writers, and MSG is well documented. It seems like most NY writers are hoping the Knicks fail, just so they can say "AHA, told you so".

[bizil]

I think Novak means Melo is arguably the leading MVP candidate as of now. I think Melo is firmly entrenched in the top 10 players in the L. He has been for years and I FRANKLY can't see why people would leave him out of the top 10 players in the L. MVP has to do with stats, team success, if your team exceeds expectations, etc. The Heat were expected to do great and Bron was so dominant u had to give him MVP. This year,Melo is putting up awesome numbers AND the Knicks are exceeding expectations. And Melo, Kobe, and Durant are the three premier alpha dog scorers in the L. I think if u are on that level of scorer, it puts u on another level of player. Even if your all around game isn't epic like Bron's. Bron is CLEARLY the best player in the L, but Melo deserves mad respect and what he brings to the table.

[LikeABosh]

Melo will probably win MVP is the Knicks can win 50 games. The media will be looking for a new guy to give it to.

[NewYorkNoPicks]

I think Novak means Melo is arguably the leading MVP candidate as of now. I think Melo is firmly entrenched in the top 10 players in the L. He has been for years and I FRANKLY can't see why people would leave him out of the top 10 players in the L. MVP has to do with stats, team success, if your team exceeds expectations, etc. The Heat were expected to do great and Bron was so dominant u had to give him MVP. This year,Melo is putting up awesome numbers AND the Knicks are exceeding expectations. And Melo, Kobe, and Durant are the three premier alpha dog scorers in the L. I think if u are on that level of scorer, it puts u on another level of player. Even if your all around game isn't epic like Bron's. Bron is CLEARLY the best player in the L, but Melo deserves mad respect and what he brings to the table.

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[ihoopallday]

I just want to see how Melo adjusts when Amare returns. But right now, he is playing at an MVP level.

[devin112]

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[ihoopallday]

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[Noyze]

Melo is playing great right now. If he plays slightly better then LeBron this whole year then they'll give it to Melo because of "Voter fatigue." But I'm not quite convinced he's playing better then Durant atm.

[NewYorkNoPicks]

fap time?

With her? Fap timeS

[NumberSix]

Melo will probably win MVP is the Knicks can win 50 games. The media will be looking for a new guy to give it to.
This....... BUT!! I'm pretty sure they're giving it to Durant this season. The general consensus in the media seems to be that it's "Durant's turn" to win it. It's Durant's to lose. They're going to be looking to give it to him unless another player makes it to difficult to rationalize.

[Smoke117]

Melo is playing great right now. If he plays slightly better then LeBron this whole year then they'll give it to Melo because of "Voter fatigue." But I'm not quite convinced he's playing better then Durant atm.


How is he even playing remotely slightly better than Lebron so far this season? LJ is cruising along so far this season and still playing vastly superior to Anthony. They've never been close to on the same tier and they never will be.

[2swift4u]

[QUOTE=NewYorkNoPicks]"Carmelo Anthony heard chants of

[stallionaire]

Not even top 7.

This.

[28renyoy]

Someone please explain how Carmelo has played on the level of Durant or LeBron this year..much less outplayed them, I'll wait

[Sarcastic]

Someone please explain how Carmelo has played on the level of Durant or LeBron this year..much less outplayed them, I'll wait


Knicks are overachieving with a significantly worse roster, while the Thunder and Heat are doing business as usual.

MVP is not PER of the Year award, or whatever advanced stat you want to look up.

[Whoah10115]

I think Novak means Melo is arguably the leading MVP candidate as of now. I think Melo is firmly entrenched in the top 10 players in the L. He has been for years and I FRANKLY can't see why people would leave him out of the top 10 players in the L. MVP has to do with stats, team success, if your team exceeds expectations, etc. The Heat were expected to do great and Bron was so dominant u had to give him MVP. This year,Melo is putting up awesome numbers AND the Knicks are exceeding expectations. And Melo, Kobe, and Durant are the three premier alpha dog scorers in the L. I think if u are on that level of scorer, it puts u on another level of player. Even if your all around game isn't epic like Bron's. Bron is CLEARLY the best player in the L, but Melo deserves mad respect and what he brings to the table.



I really think there's not been any argument for Carmelo in the top 10. And I don't get what it would be. The individual player? The individual player still has to perform for the team. Melo has always had impact, but he does stop the ball plenty. There's never been any argument for him over Pierce. Pierce is the same level of scorer, just playing now on this team. Pierce is the better player. I just don't see how Carmelo has ever had an argument over Duncan, KG, Kobe, Lebron, Wade, Pierce, Nowitzki, Nash, Kidd, Ray. I'm not even including Shaq and there are probably others to consider. And then, post 06, you have Dwight, Paul, Deron. And then you have to ask why is his impact greater than Gasol's in 05/06, and then when Gasol joined the Lakers. What about Amare? Melo has the ceiling over him, but the Amare that played in 04/05 and in the playoffs in 06/07, then in 07/08. Even 08/09, before injury. Then back in 09/10 and in his first season with the Knicks in 10/11. Then you have Durant and Rose. And there's no reason that Melo should be ahead of Rondo. Rondo has been huge since the 08/09 playoffs. Melo was better in 09/10, but Rondo turned it on in the playoffs. Rondo was better after and even better in the playoffs.


He's got his argument now tho. I also think it's a crowded list. Westbrook hasn't even been mentioned and Love has yet to make the playoffs. It's crowded, but I have no problem with him there now. But he can't be cemented until he does more.

[Whoah10115]

Its his teammate, ofcourse he is gona say something as silly as that.... and i hope some peoples comments here are not serious, especially that "selrahc" guy...



He's talking about so far this season. It's arguable. But I am open to the only answer. Go ahead.




I should have altered my post. I'm not bothered by LeBron's name coming up per-say, but rather I'm bothered that the same stans (pauk, Silk, etc.) coming rushing to his side in virtually every thread that even hints about LeBron.



This is where it's at. It's a shame.

[kurple]

Melo is the best player on the team, of course his teammate are going to say positive things about him.

Tebow is hated on his team because he gets all the press and he's not good, of course they're going to talk shit about him
tebow have gotten one run as a starting QB. that went pretty well

[Draz]

He better win MVP this year

[bizil]

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I dont even know her name! lol One of my boys gave me the pic on Facebook and I asked him the same thing! Hell we might have to make up a name for her! lol