How Kobe stacks up vs other 30000 point scorers

[28renyoy]

Kobe needed 23063 FGA
Jordan needed 22337 FGA

Difference: Kobe needed 727 more FGA

Kobe needed 23063 FGA
Malone needed 22043 FGA

Difference: Kobe needed 1020 more FGA

Kobe needed 23063 FGA
Kareem needed 22109 FGA

Difference: Kobe needed 954 more FGA

Kobe needed 23063 FGA
Wilt needed 22149 FGA

Difference: Kobe needed 914 more FGA


Congrats to Kobe. It may have taken you damn near 1000 more shots, but you got there :applause:

[DMV2]

:oldlol:

[TheBigVeto]

It's simple: Kobe is just not as good as any of them.

[kNicKz]

seriously he's awful :rolleyes:

[lefthook00]

Do you see the names on that list? All of them are better than Kobe except one.

[28renyoy]

Do you see the names on that list? All of them are better than Kobe except one.

Just for the record

Durant is on pace to do it in 20652 shots and LeBron is on pace to do it in 21673

[chazzy]

Yes Kobe has a lower FG% than those above him, fascinating and new information

[Fudge]

Just for the record

Durant is on pace to do it in 20652 shots and LeBron is on pace to do it in 21673
:wtf:

[asdf1990]

Chuckbe

[Spaulding]

Just for the record

Durant is on pace to do it in 20652 shots and LeBron is on pace to do it in 21673

Would love to see Lebron and Durant continue to play at elite levels without any serious injuries. We will see.

http://www.warriorsworld.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/lebron-durant-kobe.jpg

Lol Did not see Melo hiding in there...maybe someday he could be on their level. He's close though.

[28renyoy]

:wtf:

Durant is far and away the most efficiency volume scorer of all time. None of the top 10 scorers of all time can even hold a candle to his efficiency over the past 4 years, and this season it's an absolute joke as his efficiency has gone up 4% from the previous 3 years.

[imdaman99]

:wtf:
he's a math major. and he can see the future. so allow it.

he just needed a reason to say that kevin durant will be the goat

[c3z4r]

Just for the record

Durant is on pace to do it in 20652 shots and LeBron is on pace to do it in 21673

How did you calculate this???

[K.Koscik]

You're criticizing him because he is less efficient then two of the three greatest centers of all time, the greatest scoring PF of all time (who played with an excellent passing guard), and the most efficient scoring guard in the history of the NBA.

OK

:coleman:

[Yao Ming's Foot]

The actual relevant comparison...

Kobe Bryant 34-104
Wilt Chamberlain 35-179
Karl Malone 36-189
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 36-217
Michael Jordan 38-321

#YOUNGESTTO30K :bowdown:

[Doctor Rivers]

You're criticizing him because he is less efficient then two of the three greatest centers of all time, the greatest scoring PF of all time (who played with an excellent passing guard), and the most efficient scoring guard in the history of the NBA.

OK

:coleman:

Anything for his god Kevin Durant.

[28renyoy]

How did you calculate this???

30000-current total points scored=x. Then I calculated how many FGA they would need to reach x based on their efficiency from the previous 4 seasons. Durant's is likely over calculated based on his play from the the past 2 seasons as his efficiency appears to continue going up.

[DStebb716]

How did you calculate this???

it's not a hard thing to calculate. all you need is their total points scored and their field goals attempted.

but don't follow what he told you, he just wanted to make it sound complicated. literally all you need to do is this:

total field goals attempted divided by total points gives you shots per point. multiply that by 30000. there ya go.

you can also reverse it and go with total points divided by field goals attempted to get points per shot. then divide that number into 30000

[pejavelin]

DUMB THREAD

because historically S Guards have better FG% than Centers and pf. hes not too far from mj in fga and mj was a beast. just being in that group is an honor.

[B-hoop]

The actual relevant comparison...

Kobe Bryant 34-104
Wilt Chamberlain 35-179
Karl Malone 36-189
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 36-217
Michael Jordan 38-321

#YOUNGESTTO30K :bowdown:

Do that list but with how many years in the league each player had

[28renyoy]

The actual relevant comparison...

Kobe Bryant 34-104
Wilt Chamberlain 35-179
Karl Malone 36-189
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 36-217
Michael Jordan 38-321

#YOUNGESTTO30K :bowdown:

Durant's on pace to do it he's 32

[TheeBeast]

Kobe is a 6'6 SG and you're comparing his fg attempts to three bigmen (two being 7foot GOAT centers) and the GOAT himself.

[c3z4r]

it's not a hard thing to calculate. all you need is their total points scored and their field goals attempted.

30000-current total points scored=x. Then I calculated how many FGA they would need to reach x based on their efficiency from the previous 4 seasons. Durant's is likely over calculated based on his play from the the past 2 seasons as his efficiency appears to continue going up.

I find this to be very flawed because you don't factor in 3pointers, which are included into FGA, and free-throw attempts, which don't count as a FGA. I mean, for example, Lebron is currently shooting a career low free-throws, so if this trend continues he'll have to take more FGA to compensate for the lack of free-throws points.

Edit: I wasn't asking because I don't know how to calculate, but rather because a simple calculation won't do.

[28renyoy]

it's not a hard thing to calculate. all you need is their total points scored and their field goals attempted.

but don't follow what he told you, he just wanted to make it sound complicated. literally all you need to do is this:

total field goals attempted divided by total points gives you shots per point. multiply that by 30000. there ya go.

you can also reverse it and go with total points divided by field goals attempted to get points per shot. then divide that number into 30000

Nope. I took out their poor efficiency/scoring numbers from early on in their career's. The players they are today will effect how soon they reach 30k, not the players they were when they were rookies.

For instance: Over the past 5 years, LeBron has had an average TS% of 59.2. For his career, he's at 56.8%. This season he's at 58.7%.

Recent trends>>>>Total

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Durant's on pace to do it he's 32

The greatest trick Kobe ever pulled was making his longevity look easy. The large majority of players dont stay this good this long. :confusedshrug:

[DStebb716]

PS- His Michael Jordan number is false. It took MJ 22,956 shots to get to 30,000. That's only 107 less than Kobe.

[DStebb716]

Nope. I took out their poor efficiency/scoring numbers from early on in their career's. The players they are today will effect how soon they reach 30k, not the players they were when they were rookies.

For instance: Over the past 5 years, LeBron has had an average TS% of 59.2. For his career, he's at 56.8%. This season he's at 58.7%.

Recent trends>>>>Total

Oh, hilarious. Because when I did my calculations I got the EXACT same numbers as you on LeBron and Durant. So quit talking out of your ass.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Do that list but with how many years in the league each player had

Father time works on age not years in the league. :confusedshrug:

[Whoah10115]

Nope. I took out their poor efficiency/scoring numbers from early on in their career's. The players they are today will effect how soon they reach 30k, not the players they were when they were rookies.

For instance: Over the past 5 years, LeBron has had an average TS% of 59.2. For his career, he's at 56.8%. This season he's at 58.7%.

Recent trends>>>>Total




Nope. Because, statistically, they may never be this efficient again.



For example, stupid, Michael Jordan. The year the Bulls won their second title he had his lowest PPG average in 6 years. And he took .3 more shots per game than the year before, while scoring 1.4PPG less. Between 88/89 and 89/90, his shots per game jumped higher than his PPG (1.8 to 1.1). His career high in points to shot was 88/89, followed by 87/88 AND his rookie season, just behind. Well, his efficiency technically got worse.


So, it seems like your argument is full of shit. But please, go ahead and tell me how I'm wrong.

[The Macho Man]

Deandre Jordan on pace to do it in 19,867 shots

[28renyoy]

I find this to be very flawed because you don't factor in 3pointers, which are included into FGA, and free-throw attempts, which don't count as a FGA. I mean, for example, Lebron is currently shooting a career low free-throws, so if this trend continues he'll have to take more FGA to compensate for the lack of free-throws points.

Edit: I wasn't asking because I don't know how to calculate, but rather because a simple calculation won't do.


If you want to do a total calculation, scaling for FTA, then it would be


30k-total points scored=y=points needed for 30k

y/(ppg average for recent trend say 4 years)=X=games needed for 30k

(.44*FTA averaged during trend)+(FGA averaged during trend)=Z=average shots needed per game to reach 30k

X*Z=N=shots needed to reach 30k=N

(Career FTA*.44 + Career FGA)+N=total shots needed to reach 30k points

[TheeBeast]

The greatest trick Kobe ever pulled was making his longevity look easy. The large majority of players dont stay this good this long. :confusedshrug:

Durant is secretly 7 feet tall. And people just ASSUME Durant will be the goat scorer even though the dude is running like a racing horse right now, how will he even match what he's doing now in the next 6 years? You can't compare the legs of a 6'6 guard to a 7 footer :no:

[D.J.]

As mentioned earlier, Kobe's longevity is insane. This is Kobe's 17th season and he's averaging 28/5/5. Here's the few others who come close in their 17th season:


Kareem- 23/6/3+
Malone- 22/8+/4/2

[DStebb716]

I find this to be very flawed because you don't factor in 3pointers, which are included into FGA, and free-throw attempts, which don't count as a FGA. I mean, for example, Lebron is currently shooting a career low free-throws, so if this trend continues he'll have to take more FGA to compensate for the lack of free-throws points.

Edit: I wasn't asking because I don't know how to calculate, but rather because a simple calculation won't do.

Well you don't need to include free throws attempted because if OP is referring to purely the number of field goals attempted then you only need to calculate these guys based on their field goals attempted. Obviously it makes LeBron/Durant's pace look MUCH better than Kobe's if they get more free throws than he did.

[bluechox2]

who cares how many shots he needed...he got there and congrats

[longtime lurker]

DUMB THREAD

because historically S Guards have better FG% than Centers and pf. hes not too far from mj in fga and mj was a beast. just being in that group is an honor.

How dare you try to bring common sense into a good ole Kobe hating thread.

[pnyozzzoo]

According to ESPN stats guy, Kobe shots more shots Per minute than Allen Iverson, I think thats highest ever?

[Mr. Jabbar]

He also reached the 30k milestone holding 5 rings, how did the other ones fare when at that milestone :oldlol:

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Kobe currently has more career points than Lebron and Durant COMBINED

:bowdown: :bowdown:

[28renyoy]

Nope. Because, statistically, they may never be this efficient again.



For example, stupid, Michael Jordan. The year the Bulls won their second title he had his lowest PPG average in 6 years. And he took .3 more shots per game than the year before, while scoring 1.4PPG less.


So, it seems like your argument is full of shit. But please, go ahead and tell me how I'm wrong.


You're an idiot

Player A averages
5.0 ppg year 1
7.0 ppg year 2
11.0 ppg year 3
16.0 ppg year 4
22.0 ppg year 5
25.0 ppg year 6
23.0 ppg year 7

His average for these 7 years were 15.2 ppg

After averaging 23.3 ppg over the past 3 years, you would expect him to average 15.2 ppg in year 8?

[Yao Ming's Foot]

He also reached the 30k milestone holding 5 rings, how did the other ones fare when at that milestone :oldlol:

Durant is on pace to win 0 rings, the KING maybe 2 at best.

[The-Legend-24]

Kobe currently has more career points than Lebron and Durant COMBINED

:bowdown: :bowdown:
:bowdown:

[BEAST Griffin]

PS- His Michael Jordan number is false. It took MJ 22,956 shots to get to 30,000. That's only 107 less than Kobe.

Must be his Wizards years.

[Mr. Jabbar]

Durant is on pace to win 0 rings, the KING maybe 2 at best.

:lol

[swag2011]

I hope this takes into account that Kobe is the ONLY 30,000+ scorer to play through 2 LOCKOUT seasons. Back in 99 the season didn't start till February ( would've been an all star again too) and just last year season didn't start till christmas. If last season was a full season he would've been hit 30k

[Deuce Bigalow]

Tyson Chandler is on pace to do it on 19,052 shots

[elementally morale]

Tyson Chandler is on pace to do it on 19,052 shots

I'm on pace to not do it on zero shots.

[Noob Saibot]

Kobe Jordan getting the blessings from Kareem himself.

[dynasty1978]

According to ESPN stats guy, Kobe shots more shots Per minute than Allen Iverson, I think thats highest ever?

That would be MJ.
A breakdown of FG per Minute:

.5983 MJ

.5356 KB

.5296 AI

[Doranku]

Kevin Durant on pace to be a ringless, one-dimensional loser for the rest of his career. :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Kobe 4 The Win]

Haters will hate.

[pnyozzzoo]

That would be MJ.
A breakdown of FG per Minute:

.5983 MJ

.5356 KB

.5296 AI
Thanks, how can I forget the Goat, MJ started the whole thing, He was doing it even in the 80s, lol.

[okayabc123]

let's just appreciate a man that can still put in buckets after 17 season, being 34-35 years old, and still is among the elite players in the league dominated by strong, faster athletes.

in that respect, you have to just sit there and admire what kobe has done

[Jacks3]

Especially impressive to score that many points while being one of the best non-PG play-makers/creators ever, unlike that one-dimensional scrub Durant.

[CavaliersFTW]

The actual relevant comparison...

Kobe Bryant 34-104
Wilt Chamberlain 35-179
Karl Malone 36-189
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 36-217
Michael Jordan 38-321

#YOUNGESTTO30K :bowdown:
Age records? Congrats to Kobe, for being born in the small window of time that Stern allowed children into the NBA :applause:

[rhythmic]

And people have the audacity to complain about certain Kobe homers? :rolleyes:

Guy just achieved a mega milestone and the dude is trying to belittle it somehow.

[28renyoy]

:roll:

Durant's averaging 4.4 apg and Kobe's averaging 4.7 apg for his CAREER. And that's a ball dominant SG vs an off the ball SF

[Kurosawa0]

He's better than Malone, but yeah, the rest on that list are clearly better.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Age records? Congrats to Kobe, for being born in the small window of time that Stern allowed children into the NBA :applause:

Jordan could have joined the NBA as a teenager, he just wasn't good/confident enough :confusedshrug:

[ihoopallday]

Congrats to Kobe :applause:
Wonder where he'll finish when it's all said and done. 30k is a crazy accomplishment. Just because you put up 20k+ shots doesn't mean you'll make them. Plus you gotta keep your body in great shape. Again, congrats to Kobe.

[rhythmic]

:roll:

Durant's averaging 4.4 apg and Kobe's averaging 4.7 apg for his CAREER. And that's a ball dominant SG vs an off the ball SF

Durant is a PHENOM, a terrific all around basketball player. Anyone saying he's one dimensional are retards, plain and simple. But pretending like he can easily achieve what Kobe has is absurd. You're ridiculous dude, just shut up!

[CavaliersFTW]

Jordan could have joined the NBA as a teenager, he just wasn't good/confident enough :confusedshrug:
Wilt and Kareem weren't allowed into the NBA until they were in their early 20's. Both would have certainly hit 30k several years prior to Kobe had they been allowed into the league at age 17. Age records aren't an honest milestone - because not every dominant player has been allowed into the league at the same age. The number of games or seasons it takes to reach a certain milestone is a much better mark of greatness. Just my opinion

[Kobe 4 The Win]

[QUOTE=rhythmic

[chazzy]

:roll:

Durant's averaging 4.4 apg and Kobe's averaging 4.7 apg for his CAREER. And that's a ball dominant SG vs an off the ball SF
19 game sample vs a 16 year career. lol

[BEAST Griffin]

I'd take Kevin Durant over Kobe Bryant easily. More efficient and not as much of an offensive flow disruptor.

[DStebb716]

That would be MJ.
A breakdown of FG per Minute:

.5983 MJ

.5356 KB

.5296 AI

12352362346234623723.547457 Jack Taylor

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Wilt and Kareem weren't allowed into the NBA until they were in their early 20's. Both would have certainly hit 30k several years prior to Kobe had they been allowed into the league at age 17. Age records aren't an honest milestone - because not every dominant player has been allowed into the league at the same age. The number of games or seasons it takes to reach a certain milestone is a much better mark of greatness. Just my opinion

It wasn't meant to be a mark of greatness. 30k speaks for itself. Age is relevant because it demonstrates the opportunity for more.

[DStebb716]

Must be his Wizards years.

He reached 30,000 in his first year with the Wizards very near the end of the season... Against the Bulls.

[CavaliersFTW]

It wasn't meant to be a mark of greatness. 30k speaks for itself. Age is relevant because it demonstrates the opportunity for more.
This is true, depending on Kobe's determination he could probably chase Malone or even Kareem - just depends on how long he wants to stay in the league

[Mr. Jabbar]

I'd take Kevin Durant over Kobe Bryant easily. More efficient and not as much of an offensive flow disruptor.

Go ahead, he's all yours.

[SevereUpInHere]

F*ck man, why can't people just appreciate this milestone instead of shitting on his fg%.

5 people, 5 PEOPLE in the history of the game have scored 30000 points, it's sad reading all the replies on here.

[Tmuston Beltics]

Just for the record

Durant is on pace to do it in 20652 shots and LeBron is on pace to do it in 21673


WTF!!! BOOKMARKED

[scandisk_]

MAMBA MILESTONE COMPLETE! 30,000 Points! :rockon:

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

[G-Funk]

:roll:

Durant's averaging 4.4 apg and Kobe's averaging 4.7 apg for his CAREER. And that's a ball dominant SG vs an off the ball SF


Durant: Career Assist 2.9, Career Turnovers 3.2 :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

http://static7.businessinsider.com/image/4eb7fdad69bedd8f41000025/mitt-romney-laughing.jpg

[scandisk_]

Durant: Career Assist 2.9, Career Turnovers 3.2 :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

http://static7.businessinsider.com/image/4eb7fdad69bedd8f41000025/mitt-romney-laughing.jpg

ouch :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[lilgodfather1]

Comparing bigs to guards is not fair to the guards. Bigs score more efficiently, and that is incredibly obvious.

IMO it would be much more interesting to see how many games it took each of these guys to hit 30k. I'd assume Wilt was like 10 years or something lol.

[DatAsh]

30000-current total points scored=x. Then I calculated how many FGA they would need to reach x based on their efficiency from the previous 4 seasons. Durant's is likely over calculated based on his play from the the past 2 seasons as his efficiency appears to continue going up.

The problem I see with that is that you're not accounting for age or injuries. For example, Durant is currently in his 6th season; by the end of Jordan's complete 6th season, he was averaging 32.6ppg on 59.4%(vs Durant's 26.3 on 58.5%).
If we use your method of using a player's previous 4 seasons to extrapolate efficiency for that player's next x points, where x = (30,000 - current total points scored), which I think is a horribly inaccurate way of estimating that figure, we get 33.1ppg on 60.7% for Jordan, and 28.5ppg on 60.5% for Durant.

Using your method of calculation on Jordan we get 2199, which is obviously too low. The reason behind the discrepancy here is father time(age + injuries). By the way, I got a different value for Durant than you did - I got 21035 to your 20652, so one of us is off.

Because of modern medicine, and the fact that they entered the league at a younger age, Durant and Lebron will almost certainly have better longevity than Jordan, but that doesn't mean that your method isn't flawed, it is, and considerably so.

[dynasty1978]

Durant: Career Assist 2.9, Career Turnovers 3.2 :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

http://static7.businessinsider.com/image/4eb7fdad69bedd8f41000025/mitt-romney-laughing.jpg


BURN :lol

[G-Funk]

The problem I see with that is that you're not accounting for age or injuries. For example, Durant is currently in his 6th season; by the end of Jordan's complete 6th season, he was averaging 32.6ppg on 59.4%(vs Durant's 26.3 on 58.5%).
If we use your method of using a player's previous 4 seasons to extrapolate efficiency for that player's next x points, where x = (30,000 - current total points scored), which I think is a horribly inaccurate way of estimating that figure, we get 33.1ppg on 60.7% for Jordan, and 28.5ppg on 60.5% for Durant.

Using your method of calculation on Jordan we get 2199, which is obviously too low. The reason behind the discrepancy here is father time(age + injuries). By the way, I got a different value for Durant than you did - I got 21035 to your 20652, so one of us is off.

Because of modern medicine, and the fact that they entered the league at a younger age, Durant and Lebron will almost certainly have better longevity than Jordan, but that doesn't mean that your method isn't flawed, it is, and considerably so.


well put

[Poetry]

being 34-35 years old, and still is among the elite players in the league dominated by strong, faster athletes.

That should tell you something about these so-called "stong[er], faster athletes". Why is it that in a league full of recently evolved, super humans, can a man in the last phase of his career not only run with them, but outpace them?

That alone should give you an indication that the league isn't any stronger or faster than it was before. Kobe is doing now, what he's always done.

Despite what all the 13-year-old scientists are attempting to posit, humanity has not evolved in the last 15 years.

If anything, this older version of Kobe is making it seem like everyone else devolved.

[tpols]

Yea let's compare kobe to kareembadul Jabbar, wilt Chamberlain, and Karl Malone.. All bigen scorers and 7 fvcking footers.

:facepalm

[SHAQisGOAT]

Durant: Career Assist 2.9, Career Turnovers 3.2 :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

http://static7.businessinsider.com/image/4eb7fdad69bedd8f41000025/mitt-romney-laughing.jpg

lmao owned

[SHAQisGOAT]

That should tell you something about these so-called "stong[er], faster athletes". Why is it that in a league full of recently evolved, super humans, can a man in the last phase of his career not only run with them, but outpace them?

That alone should give you an indication that the league isn't any stronger or faster than it was before. Kobe is doing now, what he's always done.

Despite what all the 13-year-old scientists are attempting to posit, humanity has not evolved in the last 15 years.

If anything, this older version of Kobe is making it seem like everyone else devolved.

:applause:

[Whoah10115]

You're an idiot

Player A averages
5.0 ppg year 1
7.0 ppg year 2
11.0 ppg year 3
16.0 ppg year 4
22.0 ppg year 5
25.0 ppg year 6
23.0 ppg year 7

His average for these 7 years were 15.2 ppg

After averaging 23.3 ppg over the past 3 years, you would expect him to average 15.2 ppg in year 8?



What the hell are you talking about? I told you that Jordan's FGA to points ratio got worse as he got better and the noticeable jump came the year the Bulls won their first title.


So, what's to say that Durant keeps up his recent efficiency? That's what I'm saying. Are you dense?

[Yao Ming's Foot]

That should tell you something about these so-called "stong[er], faster athletes". Why is it that in a league full of recently evolved, super humans, can a man in the last phase of his career not only run with them, but outpace them?

That alone should give you an indication that the league isn't any stronger or faster than it was before. Kobe is doing now, what he's always done.

Despite what all the 13-year-old scientists are attempting to posit, humanity has not evolved in the last 15 years.

If anything, this older version of Kobe is making it seem like everyone else devolved.

MOCKS SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE OF TEENAGERS










USES ONE DATA POINT

:facepalm

[KOBEtherealKing]

HatersGonnaHAteBe

DominateBe :bowdown:

[nashwade]

The actual relevant comparison...

Kobe Bryant 34-104
Wilt Chamberlain 35-179
Karl Malone 36-189
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 36-217
Michael Jordan 38-321

#YOUNGESTTO30K :bowdown:

Jordan @38? seriously? what a scrub he is

[DixieNourmous]

F*ck man, why can't people just appreciate this milestone instead of shitting on his fg%.

5 people, 5 PEOPLE in the history of the game have scored 30000 points, it's sad reading all the replies on here.

Tru that.

Congrats Kobe

and if Lebron passes the milestone, ill give congrats there too.

Its a game with guys just like us playing (with allot more money)

Too much drama/hate/jealousy/BS about Kobe.

[Levity]

DUMB THREAD

because historically S Guards have better FG% than Centers and pf. hes not too far from mj in fga and mj was a beast. just being in that group is an honor.

:applause:
thank you

A poster actually uses sensibility when he posts and everyone chooses to ignore it and only replies to trolls. That's ISH/haters in a nutshell.

[BlueandGold]

Yep so Kobe wasn't as efficient as MJ nor as dominant as Chamberlin.

Amazing revelations these are.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Got damn ISH is nothing but a bunch of salty haters.

[KOBE143]

Kobe currently has more career points than Lebron and Durant COMBINED

:bowdown: :bowdown:
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

He also did it playing in a two lock out season, 99 and 12.. He could had easily done it at early at age 30.. Amazing.. :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[TheMarkMadsen]

Op it's one thing to sabatoge ish but realgm as well? Got damn. Op is just a troll posting this bs all over message boards.

28 reloaded is a phegget 28 whatever you call yourself on ISH same dude same pheg same nikka always spreading Kobe hate almost as much as he spreads hiss ass for Kevin Durant.

[Droid101]

Kobe needed 23063 FGA
Jordan needed 22337 FGA

Difference: Kobe needed 727 more FGA

Kobe needed 23063 FGA
Malone needed 22043 FGA

Difference: Kobe needed 1020 more FGA

Kobe needed 23063 FGA
Kareem needed 22109 FGA

Difference: Kobe needed 954 more FGA

Kobe needed 23063 FGA
Wilt needed 22149 FGA

Difference: Kobe needed 914 more FGA


Congrats to Kobe. It may have taken you damn near 1000 more shots, but you got there :applause:
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7826/negkick.gif

[Droid101]

Congrats to Kobe. It may have taken you damn near 1000 more shots, but you got there :applause:
Weird... when judging Durant, TS% (which includes free throws) is super important. When judging Kobe.... free throws don't matter!

Why isn't this tool banned yet?

[INDI]

Do that list but with how many years in the league each player had

You cant knock a man for mental toughness. I believe many players could have gotten to 30000 but didnt because they lacked the focus and desire thst kobe had. Many players left the game do to injuries, kobe had many of the same but played through them, he even went to germany for experimental treatment all to be able to play this game.


Kareem n malone did all they could and thats y its no surprise they top the list, im not sure y wilts career was so short but jordan has no excuse. Jordan does not have that mental toughness, he should have been the first one to 40k.


Kobe will do one of two things, retire after 2 seasons where his place will be well padded above jordan in points ( he will never say it but we all know he wants it). Or play til 40 where he will overtake kareem n potentially be the only player ever to hit 40k

[G-Funk]

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Durant's averaging 4.4 apg and Kobe's averaging 4.7 apg for his CAREER. And that's a ball dominant SG vs an off the ball SF




Durant: Career Assist 2.9, Career Turnovers 3.2 :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

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