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Umad101
12-08-2012, 03:07 AM
Guess what? They signed up for it...most likely because they didn't have many better options. I don't go around thanking police officers in Chicago, which is probably more dangerous, and I don't thank my garbage man. They do these things out of self-interest and it just happens to benefit society.

InspiredLebowski
12-08-2012, 03:11 AM
I've got multiple friends that are current and ex military and they get annoyed with it too.

But you really should thank Chicago, and wherever else, police officers. And don't come back with that "five-o are scumbags shit." There's plenty of shitty cops absolutely. But the vast majority keep shitheads off the street. It's clear you're a very young troll though, so whatever.

MMM
12-08-2012, 03:19 AM
out of all the things to get annoyed about.....

Chief Keef
12-08-2012, 03:26 AM
You don't thank your garbage man? Geez, what the **** is wrong with you?


:facepalm :facepalm

InspiredLebowski
12-08-2012, 03:30 AM
out of all the things to get annoyed about.....#1stworldspoiledchildproblems

Meticode
12-08-2012, 03:35 AM
I thank our military veterans all the time and I also thank police officers I chat with sometimes for their service.

Do military vets sign up for it because they have no better option? Absolutely, but it doesn't change the fact that they are called onto duty to help protect this country you live in.

The only reason you have the privileges you have today in this country is because we have the most advanced military in the world that goes through some of the best training you can get on earth. Without that we'd get ran over by anyone who wanted it. You can have all these freedoms and laws made, but who the f*ck is going to protect them? You certainly aren't.

You want to know the sad part? That military vet that gets deployed and risks his life to defend your country probably BARELY gets paid more than your garbage man OR he gets paid less depending upon where the garage man works. Garbage men in New York get paid up to $80,000 a year.

You get annoyed by it? Go **** yourself...honestly.

hateraid
12-08-2012, 03:35 AM
I will still thank those who courageously fight battles us regular people are too scared to fight. But I agree, there are people that we should be just as generous to thank.

To put into perspective, if the army or the garbagemen both went on strike, who would we need more to make our quality of life better?

My thoughts exactly

Meticode
12-08-2012, 03:38 AM
I will still thank those who courageously fight battles us regular people are too scared to fight. But I agree, there are people that we should be just as generous to thank.

To put into perspective, if the army or the garbagemen both went on strike, who would we need more to make our quality of life better?

My thoughts exactly
Short term? Garbage men. Long-term? Military. Please take into account whenever natural disasters occur National Guards are called into service to help those struck by disaster.

InspiredLebowski
12-08-2012, 03:43 AM
I will still thank those who courageously fight battles us regular people are too scared to fight. But I agree, there are people that we should be just as generous to thank.

To put into perspective, if the army or the garbagemen both went on strike, who would we need more to make our quality of life better?

My thoughts exactlyAlways Sunny In Philadelphia has made it clear that should sanitation employees go on strike there's gold mine there for the taking for any go getter in the populace.

kNicKz
12-08-2012, 03:53 AM
Thanking soldiers for risking their lives to protect us annoys you?

:facepalm

Umad101
12-08-2012, 03:53 AM
I thank our military veterans all the time and I also thank police officers I chat with sometimes for their service.

Do military vets sign up for it because they have no better option? Absolutely, but it doesn't change the fact that they are called onto duty to help protect this country you live in.

The only reason you have the privileges you have today in this country is because we have the most advanced military in the world that goes through some of the best training you can get on earth. Without that we'd get ran over by anyone who wanted it. You can have all these freedoms and laws made, but who the f*ck is going to protect them? You certainly aren't.

You want to know the sad part? That military vet that gets deployed and risks his life to defend your country probably BARELY gets paid more than your garbage man OR he gets paid less depending upon where the garage man works. Garbage men in New York get paid up to $80,000 a year.

You get annoyed by it? Go **** yourself...honestly.

IThey sure are protecting my freedoms by killing women and children thousands of miles away from me. You guys do realize how many civilians have been killed in Afghanistan and Iraq right? It is so disgusting that anyone could support that. Shameful for anyone to enlist knowing they will have a hand in it. No one is EVER going to invade America. We don't need you clowns "protecting our freedoms".

But I do think a profession like a fireman, or a surgeon is more honourable than military, yet they don't seem to get the same recognition. When was the last day we had to commemorate all the doctors out there saving lives??? Or the scientists out there giving their all to cure cancer?

Also Military people get paid and fed and housing. Along with discounts in many different businesses. And a lot of them do it to get money for school.

hateraid
12-08-2012, 03:54 AM
Short term? Garbage men. Long-term? Military. Please take into account whenever natural disasters occur National Guards are called into service to help those struck by disaster.

I do. We are forever in their debt. I have friends in the military that have shared stories I couldn't imagine putting myself through. But, they get their praise which is rightfully deserved. But there are those who do the jobs nobody does and get ridiculed for, but in return they provide a service that goes unnoticed.

hateraid
12-08-2012, 03:55 AM
Always Sunny In Philadelphia has made it clear that should sanitation employees go on strike there's gold mine there for the taking for any go getter in the populace.

:oldlol:
Deep my friend

Umad101
12-08-2012, 03:58 AM
Thanking soldiers for risking their lives to protect us annoys you?

:facepalm
u act like military is the only dangerous job out there. no they didn't do it for me, they did it for them. a high school dropout can be way more successful if they join the military than otherwise. why do they need to put their lives on the line at all? who is threatening us? (US)

Also but what happens if the wars they are fighting actually put the nation at a way greater risk than if they just said no said no thanks jeff and just stayed home?

I'm not saying we should spit on the guys or give them sh**, you can't have a military where guys just say yes and no when they please.

But it gets a bit insufferable hearing about our "heros" who have done the legwork involved in sending our economy deeper into depths of hell/ruining reputation abroad/endangering us even more by united otherwise neutral nations against us.

kNicKz
12-08-2012, 04:03 AM
they didn't do it for me, they did it for them.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pzcgoPMGNcA/T_Sx6Q5ouMI/AAAAAAAA0cM/TqxfdeTCrzQ/s1600/pat-tillman-sports-illustrated.jpg

InspiredLebowski
12-08-2012, 04:03 AM
so the op's 12 and buys squeeze its with his allowance.

kNicKz
12-08-2012, 04:06 AM
Also but what happens if the wars they are fighting actually put the nation at a way greater risk than if they just said no said no thanks jeff and just stayed home?



Do you think soldiers decide when to go and fight and when not to? :roll: You enlist and they send you wherever they need you. You could enlist wanting to go to Afghanistan and end up fueling ships in Alaska. And vice versa


http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/forcechoke.jpg

I find your lack of everything disturbing

Myth
12-08-2012, 05:30 AM
I saw a friend post about Pearl Harbor today that "He will always remember and never forget that day." My thought was, "Bitch, you are 29. Your parents weren't even born yet."

Scoooter
12-08-2012, 05:35 AM
I've got multiple friends that are current and ex military and they get annoyed with it too.

But you really should thank Chicago, and wherever else, police officers. And don't come back with that "five-o are scumbags shit." There's plenty of shitty cops absolutely. But the vast majority keep shitheads off the street. It's clear you're a very young troll though, so whatever.
**** tha po-leece.

tomtucker
12-08-2012, 05:37 AM
IThey sure are protecting my freedoms by killing women and children thousands of miles away from me. You guys do realize how many civilians have been killed in Afghanistan and Iraq right? It is so disgusting that anyone could support that. Shameful for anyone to enlist knowing they will have a hand in it. No one is EVER going to invade America. We don't need you clowns "protecting our freedoms".

But I do think a profession like a fireman, or a surgeon is more honourable than military, yet they don't seem to get the same recognition. When was the last day we had to commemorate all the doctors out there saving lives??? Or the scientists out there giving their all to cure cancer?

Also Military people get paid and fed and housing. Along with discounts in many different businesses. And a lot of them do it to get money for school.

noone knows that, since the enemy don

Nanners
12-08-2012, 05:59 AM
i support our troops. bring them all home and stop the endless war machine


also i have a lot of respect for most police officers. maybe its just due to being a cleanshaven white male, but i have never had a bad experience with a police officer in my life. say what you will about how the cops suck or whatever, they are just dudes listening to their boss and trying to make a living in my experience.

dunksby
12-08-2012, 06:11 AM
"Protecting our freedom" :roll: :roll:

johndeeregreen
12-08-2012, 08:08 AM
Sounds like a United States Marine banged OP's girlfriend and made him watch.

johndeeregreen
12-08-2012, 08:12 AM
"Protecting our freedom" :roll: :roll:
First off, they don't decide where they fight.

Secondly, your view of this is too narrow. You haven't considered the fact that the sheer might of America's military is a deterrent to any country who would want to wage a serious conflict with them. So in that sense, absolutely, the military protects our freedom. You have a valid point regarding conflicts such as Vietnam or Iraq for instance, but again these aren't the guys picking the battles and like I said, you aren't really taking everything into account here.

Nobody's saying you have to agree with every foreign policy decision, or always support the actions of the nation's troops, but to sit there and act like the life you lead isn't due in large part to the military of the country is immature, entitled, and ignorant.

Math2
12-08-2012, 08:39 AM
I thank our military veterans all the time and I also thank police officers I chat with sometimes for their service.

Do military vets sign up for it because they have no better option? Absolutely, but it doesn't change the fact that they are called onto duty to help protect this country you live in.

The only reason you have the privileges you have today in this country is because we have the most advanced military in the world that goes through some of the best training you can get on earth. Without that we'd get ran over by anyone who wanted it. You can have all these freedoms and laws made, but who the f*ck is going to protect them? You certainly aren't.

You want to know the sad part? That military vet that gets deployed and risks his life to defend your country probably BARELY gets paid more than your garbage man OR he gets paid less depending upon where the garage man works. Garbage men in New York get paid up to $80,000 a year.

You get annoyed by it? Go **** yourself...honestly.

:applause:

Real Men Wear Green
12-08-2012, 08:46 AM
Guess what? They signed up for it...most likely because they didn't have many better options. I don't go around thanking police officers in Chicago, which is probably more dangerous, and I don't thank my garbage man. They do these things out of self-interest and it just happens to benefit society.
You on the other hand make worthless posts that just happen to benefit no one.

blazerjimmy
12-08-2012, 08:47 AM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pzcgoPMGNcA/T_Sx6Q5ouMI/AAAAAAAA0cM/TqxfdeTCrzQ/s1600/pat-tillman-sports-illustrated.jpg


Thank you for posting this....#47 didn't do it for the $$$$ or a freaking 10% military discount at IHOP......

kNIOKAS
12-08-2012, 08:51 AM
This!:applause:

People act as if US wouldn't get attacked any day now without the military, majority of Islamic countries + all the countries wanting to dethrone us from being the superpower.
More like... Waiting to defend themselves. :rolleyes:

USA putting all they have into military and trives off bullying the world. Are they grunts hereos? I don't really know. It's kind of the same where they present the newest weapon on Discovery and yap about "this firepower will help to save some lives". Makes me :facepalm so hard... How more damaging bullets are to save lives?!! By hitting the ill body and curing the cancer? I mean wow.

LJJ
12-08-2012, 09:04 AM
Op is right, the current soldiers don't deserve any type of special reverence. All of us who grew up after there had already been decades of uninterrupted peacetime don't understand whatsoever what it's like to live in a country that is under military threats, so nobody joins the military because they want to serve and protect.

You ask a soldier in the military right now whether they prefer to be sent to Afghanistan for 12 months or to Okinawa, every single one of them will tell you to send them to Okinawa.

IcanzIIravor
12-08-2012, 09:24 AM
Op is right, the current soldiers don't deserve any type of special reverence. All of us who grew up after there had already been decades of uninterrupted peacetime don't understand whatsoever what it's like to live in a country that is under military threats, so nobody joins the military because they want to serve and protect.

You ask a soldier in the military right now whether they prefer to be sent to Afghanistan for 12 months or to Okinawa, every single one of them will tell you to send them to Okinawa.

How many have you met. I know plenty who volunteered to go back over before their normal rotation came because their friends are over there. I volunteered for Iraq solely because I had friends over their who mentioned that there were not enough technical controllers over their to help with the comm's and insure those beyond the wire didn't have crap for communications. I ended up staying for almost three years and I met plenty of people civilian and in the military who stayed as long as they could for similar reasons and kept coming back out there when they didn't have too. I think if you asked most of these people if they deserved any special treatment or thanks they would tell you flat out they didn't. You may go out there with a notion you are doing it to protect your country, but you stay because you are protecting the person who eats, sleeps and works with you on an almost 24/7 basis.

LJJ
12-08-2012, 09:33 AM
How many have you met. I know plenty who volunteered to go back over before their normal rotation came because their friends are over there. I volunteered for Iraq solely because I had friends over their who mentioned that there were not enough technical controllers over their to help with the comm's and insure those beyond the wire didn't have crap for communications. I ended up staying for almost three years and I met plenty of people civilian and in the military who stayed as long as they could for similar reasons and kept coming back out there when they didn't have too. I think if you asked most of these people if they deserved any special treatment or thanks they would tell you flat out they didn't. You may go out there with a notion you are doing it to protect your country, but you stay because you are protecting the person who eats, sleeps and works with you on an almost 24/7 basis.

I'm obviously not talking about anyone who has additional reasons to go.

I'm talking about if all else is equal. Knows nobody in Afghanistan, knows nobody in Okinawa. Let's say this is also the height of the invasion in Afghanistan when there is a lot of mild combat going on all the time, and the soldier in question would be a direct part of that. You ask that soldier where he wants to go and it's definitely Okinawa in the vast majority of the cases.

andgar923
12-08-2012, 10:31 AM
I respect soldiers, but deep down I don't care about them.... Sorry.

They wanna die and risk their lives for rich white men, let them be. I do agree that the overwhelming vast majority join for financial interests and not for some heroic purpose, which would be wrong anyway.

millwad
12-08-2012, 10:48 AM
I respect soldiers, but deep down I don't care about them.... Sorry.

They wanna die and risk their lives for rich white men, let them be. I do agree that the overwhelming vast majority join for financial interests and not for some heroic purpose, which would be wrong anyway.

I too.

Just2McFly
12-08-2012, 10:56 AM
I know tens of military guys and almost all of them joined up because they weren't doing shit with their lives. You thank them for their service, but you also want to smack them over the head as well. I probably know upwards of 50 servicemen and women and only two were planning this career choice before leaving HS. I've always wanted to join the military, but honestly I can't see myself willingly being a pawn used for gain instead of protection.

Math2
12-08-2012, 11:02 AM
Anyone who really disrespects soldiers should just be sent to die in Afghanistan. They are the ones who risk their lives for you, and you show them no respect. ****ing assholes.

bagelred
12-08-2012, 11:35 AM
I get annoyed with it too, because I want the military personnel to stand up to the establishment and arrest them for starting fake wars, killing millions of people, and stealing trillions of dollars....instead of carrying out the orders to "protect us" from phantom enemies.

When they do that, I'll thank them.....

andgar923
12-08-2012, 11:41 AM
Anyone who really disrespects soldiers should just be sent to die in Afghanistan. They are the ones who risk their lives for you, and you show them no respect. ****ing assholes.
The overwhelming vast majority don't join thinking "I am gonna join to save joe shmoe's life!"

And when they're there, they HAVE to defend THEMSELVES.

Like I mentioned, it's a tough job and i wish them the best. But it is damn near a myth that they're "protecting our liberties."

They're there to protect the economic interests for the uber wealthy, and powerful.

daily
12-08-2012, 11:51 AM
I thank our military veterans all the time and I also thank police officers I chat with sometimes for their service.

Do military vets sign up for it because they have no better option? Absolutely, but it doesn't change the fact that they are called onto duty to help protect this country you live in.

The only reason you have the privileges you have today in this country is because we have the most advanced military in the world that goes through some of the best training you can get on earth. Without that we'd get ran over by anyone who wanted it. You can have all these freedoms and laws made, but who the f*ck is going to protect them? You certainly aren't.

You want to know the sad part? That military vet that gets deployed and risks his life to defend your country probably BARELY gets paid more than your garbage man OR he gets paid less depending upon where the garage man works. Garbage men in New York get paid up to $80,000 a year.

You get annoyed by it? Go **** yourself...honestly.:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

kNIOKAS
12-08-2012, 11:51 AM
Anyone who really disrespects soldiers should just be sent to die in Afghanistan. They are the ones who risk their lives for you, and you show them no respect. ****ing assholes.
What are US soldiers doing in freaking Afghanistan? Why they are sent to die there??? :biggums:

bmulls
12-08-2012, 12:56 PM
What are US soldiers doing in freaking Afghanistan? Why they are sent to die there??? :biggums:

Keeping the US' pimp hand strong in the middle east.

Nobody wants to say it out loud, but military and economic power are the only true powers in the human world. People get so caught up in whether something is "right" or "wrong" that they fail to realize that morality is subjective.

Liberals will whine that we are only in the middle east to protect the flow of oil. I say yeah, so the fck what? We don't do things because they are right or wrong, we do things to protect and grow our power.

The world is not a nice place, and you need to constantly stay one step ahead of everyone else. Your allies today will be your enemies the moment you let your guard down and become vulnerable. The people at the top of our government have always understood this. The CIA has always understood this.

kNIOKAS
12-08-2012, 01:03 PM
Keeping the US' pimp hand strong in the middle east.

Nobody wants to say it out loud, but military and economic power are the only true powers in the human world. People get so caught up in whether something is "right" or "wrong" that they fail to realize that morality is subjective.

Liberals will whine that we are only in the middle east to protect the flow of oil. I say yeah, so the fck what? We don't do things because they are right or wrong, we do things to protect and grow our power.

The world is not a nice place, and you need to constantly stay one step ahead of everyone else. Your allies today will be your enemies the moment you let your guard down and become vulnerable. The people at the top of our government have always understood this. The CIA has always understood this.
You agree that US are pests. Fine. All I wanted

Math2
12-08-2012, 01:27 PM
You agree that US are pests. Fine. All I wanted

So what? Iran is a pest to us. Everyone is a pest to someone else.

boozehound
12-08-2012, 01:48 PM
The only reason you have the privileges you have today in this country is because we have the most advanced military in the world that goes through some of the best training you can get on earth. Without that we'd get ran over by anyone who wanted it. You can have all these freedoms and laws made, but who the f*ck is going to protect them? You certainly aren't.

You want to know the sad part? That military vet that gets deployed and risks his life to defend your country probably BARELY gets paid more than your garbage man OR he gets paid less depending upon where the garage man works. Garbage men in New York get paid up to $80,000 a year.

You get annoyed by it? Go **** yourself...honestly.
this is a complete farce. While there is some truth in the protection of our freedoms with military force, the last actual war where that was the case was either WWII or the Civil War. Such a bunch of bullshit.

Balla_Status
12-08-2012, 02:01 PM
Anyone who really disrespects soldiers should just be sent to die in Afghanistan. They are the ones who risk their lives for you, and you show them no respect. ****ing assholes.

Afghanistan and Iraq are no threat to my freedom. hth

kNicKz
12-08-2012, 02:16 PM
Wow, some of the views in this thread about our military service members are shocking and disgusting, if we were ever invaded you all would be on their nuts. and a lot of them do drop bigger and better things to defend us (and are college educated). Our military is the reason that you all have the luxury to be ungrateful pricks in the first place (never any immediate danger, etc.)

Just2McFly
12-08-2012, 02:30 PM
Wow, some of the views in this thread about our military service members are shocking and disgusting, if we were ever invaded you all would be on their nuts. and a lot of them do drop bigger and better things to defend us (and are college educated). Our military is the reason that you all have the luxury to be ungrateful pricks in the first place (never any immediate danger, etc.)
:roll: :roll: :roll:

I understand your view point, but get the **** outta here....the military has historically been filled with the poor and uneducated.

kNicKz
12-08-2012, 02:39 PM
research/intel/security/cyber warfare systems take up a lot more of our military then you think. It's the 21st century not WWI

Just2McFly
12-08-2012, 02:40 PM
research/intel/security/cyber warfare systems take up a lot more of our military then you think. It's the 21st century not WWI
So you think the majority of the military is well educated and could be making more elsewhere?

mehyaM24
12-08-2012, 02:45 PM
So you think the majority of the military is well educated and could be making more elsewhere?

hey premed, why did you get banned bro?

Godzuki
12-08-2012, 02:46 PM
I thank our military veterans all the time and I also thank police officers I chat with sometimes for their service.

Do military vets sign up for it because they have no better option? Absolutely, but it doesn't change the fact that they are called onto duty to help protect this country you live in.

The only reason you have the privileges you have today in this country is because we have the most advanced military in the world that goes through some of the best training you can get on earth. Without that we'd get ran over by anyone who wanted it. You can have all these freedoms and laws made, but who the f*ck is going to protect them? You certainly aren't.

You want to know the sad part? That military vet that gets deployed and risks his life to defend your country probably BARELY gets paid more than your garbage man OR he gets paid less depending upon where the garage man works. Garbage men in New York get paid up to $80,000 a year.

You get annoyed by it? Go **** yourself...honestly.


they don't get paid much because they get amazing benefits. free family healthcare, free housing, free meals, discounted everything else that everyone pays full price for, and great retirement benefits once they've served their time. and once they work their way up in rank they can make quite a bit of money, and then going into the private sector after that if they made it to a high rank can net them some really good money these days.

i agree with the OP that it is annoying because they're doing what their job has entailed all along, and when its time to put up people act like they're going above and beyond their job when in fact thats the main reason why they're being trained for so long to fulfill that duty. that said i don't agree at all with him about blaming them for killing innocents by accident which is retarded since thats a part of war that every soldieer around the world has to do, and its not intentional. its more retard to think soldiers are intentionally trying to kill innocent people, and its just so naive for people to really think that way but the way so many of the weak country sympathizers think fall along those distorted lines because it fits their agenda.

the funny thing is i see some random people say stuff like that to military people every so often and i think those military are more annoyed and embarrassed with it than me. i'd imagine its like someone constantly creating some serious atmosphere they have to acknowledge out of the blue when they're out and about doing random things constantly, and pretend they're so thankful even tho they've heard it a billion times already.

-p.tiddy-
12-08-2012, 03:09 PM
this is a complete farce. While there is some truth in the protection of our freedoms with military force, the last actual war where that was the case was either WWII or the Civil War. Such a bunch of bullshit.
maybe that is what he was reffering to....WWII

it isn't like another WW is out fof the question...

we have what we have today because people FOUGHT AND DIED FOR IT...that is truth

boozehound
12-08-2012, 03:10 PM
research/intel/security/cyber warfare systems take up a lot more of our military then you think. It's the 21st century not WWI
your alot statement is way off.

Also, when was the last time we were invaded? the war of 1812? The examples you and meticode put forth are not based in the reality of the modern world. Sure, military force is a necessary component of the economic empire controlled by US-led corporate entities. But it hardly plays a role in the daily freedoms you and I enjoy. We could reduce our military expenditure by half and most US citizens wouldnt be able to see an impact.

boozehound
12-08-2012, 03:11 PM
maybe that is what he was reffering to....WWII

it isn't like another WW is out fof the question...

we have what we have today because people FOUGHT AND DIED FOR IT...that is truth
in 1776. A WW is completely out of the question. There will never be a massive ground combat based war of that nature again.

-p.tiddy-
12-08-2012, 03:12 PM
your alot statement is way off.

Also, when was the last time we were invaded? the war of 1812? The examples you and meticode put forth are not based in the reality of the modern world. Sure, military force is a necessary component of the economic empire controlled by US-led corporate entities. But it hardly plays a role in the daily freedoms you and I enjoy. We could reduce our military expenditure by half and most US citizens wouldnt be able to see an impact.
Pearl Harbor

-p.tiddy-
12-08-2012, 03:14 PM
in 1776. A WW is completely out of the question. There will never be a massive ground combat based war of that nature again.
we just got done with a massive ground war that is still going :confusedshrug:

of course, we gave Iraq the freedom and not ourselves...still makes for a better world in the long run

boozehound
12-08-2012, 03:15 PM
Thats not an invasion. If thats an invasion, then so is 9.11


To be clear, I am thankful for the service provided by our soldiers (even while I recognize that the massively bloated DOD budget is basically a profiteering system for private companies). I thank individual service members all the time.

But the over the top hyperbole promulgated by Meticode and others in this thread is unwarranted jingoism thats not based in reality.

-p.tiddy-
12-08-2012, 03:16 PM
Thats not an invasion. If thats an invasion, then so is 9.11


To be clear, I am thankful for the service provided by our soldiers (even while I recognize that the massively bloated DOD budget is basically a profiteering system for private companies). I thank individual service members all the time.

But the over the top hyperbole promulgated by Meticode and others in this thread is unwarranted jingoism thats not based in reality.
if we didn't have a military at all, nothing, then I would def be scared of losing my freedom

boozehound
12-08-2012, 03:18 PM
if we didn't have a military at all, nothing, then I would def be scared of losing my freedom
I think we can all agree on that.

kNicKz
12-08-2012, 03:25 PM
military force is a necessary component of the economic empire controlled by US-led corporate entities.

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/images/300x/1164.jpg

:roll:

Godzuki
12-08-2012, 03:41 PM
if we didn't have a military at all, nothing, then I would def be scared of losing my freedom

you can't keep citing history and where we're at now with our freedoms like its some guilt triip to what everyone does for a living today. its a completely different world. if we were a still developing country everyone would be trained in combat. our job emphasis would be to fight and defend the country because obviously there would be a lot more threats to us than today. i'm not saying people shouldn't be somewhat thankful but the constant guilt trip of being so thankful is extremely flawed in the sense that most that have made the country to what it is today are dead, and soldiers these days have had nothing to do with it. our nukes, military might mostly thru technology keep us more safe and give us our freedoms today than actual troops. thank the techies more than any individual troop enlisted right now if you value your freedom from outside threats of today.

and like i said if it were WW1/2 we'd all very likely be leading very different lives more contributory to fighting for our freedoms/rights. we'd be those people who fought and died. its just a flawed way of praising them and guilt tripping the rest imo. maybe thank the taxpayers for supporting their lives and families while they train and fight too?

ZenMaster
12-08-2012, 03:47 PM
It's part of the marketing scheme for the military, you know, that they're fighting for your freedom and all that blablabla nonsense.

kNIOKAS
12-08-2012, 04:01 PM
So what? Iran is a pest to us. Everyone is a pest to someone else.
Iran? What exactly does it do, have the oil you are ready to kill people for?

Iraq? They were supposed to have weapons of mass destruction. Invade another country > kill people > rob their wealth >oops, no weapons of mass destructions, but... but we were fighting for our freedom! >
Pass.


:coleman:

-p.tiddy-
12-08-2012, 04:06 PM
It's part of the marketing scheme for the military, you know, that they're fighting for your freedom and all that blablabla nonsense.
Yeah its a marketing scheme lol...like their selling cars

I guess I missed that commercial

boozehound
12-08-2012, 04:51 PM
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/images/300x/1164.jpg

:roll:
Nice comeback. try learning your history. You could start with statement by former secretary of states on the role of the US military in protecting US corporate holdings in other countries or the creation of banana republics or any number of topics. The US international military presence, particularly prior to the cold war, was primarily used to protect the economic interests of US corporations abroad.

BuGzBuNNy
12-08-2012, 04:51 PM
It's of my opinion that two times you've been saved, some of us three..

1. Christ
2. MLK Jr
3. Men/women who die for this country

Not to have them on the same platform, but..you get it

Just2McFly
12-08-2012, 04:58 PM
if we didn't have a military at all, nothing, then I would def be scared of losing my freedom
Is that even a real point? If I had a home with no locks I would be afraid of losing my possessions and my life as well...that's obvious though.Every country has a military to protect themselves:oldlol:

There is a difference between a normal military and what the united states has.

A huge one.

bmulls
12-08-2012, 05:12 PM
There is a difference between a normal economy and what the united states has.

A huge one.

Fixed that for you. Think it's just a coincidence?

ace23
12-08-2012, 05:19 PM
I wouldn't say it annoys me, it's just really unnecessary.

MadeFromDust
12-09-2012, 01:10 AM
Bleed past your tampon much, OP?

AlphaWolf24
12-10-2012, 02:35 PM
I get annoyed with it too, because I want the military personnel to stand up to the establishment and arrest them for starting fake wars, killing millions of people, and stealing trillions of dollars....instead of carrying out the orders to "protect us" from phantom enemies.

When they do that, I'll thank them.....


:facepalm

Rockets(T-mac)
12-10-2012, 02:48 PM
So what if they signed up for it? What's so bad about just saying thank you to someone that has made your life better, keeps you safe, etc? Would you not thank your doctor if they performed life saving surgery on you? Even your garbage man, try saying thank you once in awhile it might make you and others happier.

Seriously, is this what's it's come to? Complaining about people appreciating other people's work?

Draz
12-10-2012, 02:56 PM
Wait garbage man makes $80k a year? Wtf sign me up

BrickingStar
12-10-2012, 03:02 PM
Ironically op has said before he was from pakistan

Edwin
12-10-2012, 03:24 PM
Sorta off topic, but on topic, there's military people who do it out of pride and because it is what they like doing, others just do it because they can't find a better and quicker way to provide a decent monetary income their family and that's why they sign up.

TheSilentKiller
12-10-2012, 03:28 PM
Reiterating what a bunch of people have already said; there are other people who deserve our thanks, but people in the military risk their lives to protect us. The fact that you get annoyed by this makes you a douchebag.

Umad101
12-10-2012, 04:34 PM
Ironically op has said before he was from pakistan
Palestine

JEFFERSON MONEY
12-10-2012, 04:55 PM
NO. You WANNA KNOW WHAT PISSES ME OFF?

Divorce lawyers getting paid more than farmers and teachers.

AlphaWolf24
12-10-2012, 06:16 PM
Sorta off topic, but on topic, there's military people who do it out of pride and because it is what they like doing, others just do it because they can't find a better and quicker way to provide a decent monetary income their family and that's why they sign up.


- There are doctors who don't give a **** about health or helping the sick...they just want to get paid. There are priests who don't give a **** about humanity...just want to **** **** in the ***. There are police who don't care about public safety they just want to get paid...

at least in the Military you can join for whatever reason you want....you still gonna have to chew the same dirt.

BrooklynZoo
12-10-2012, 07:27 PM
Guess what? They signed up for it...most likely because they didn't have many better options. I don't go around thanking police officers in Chicago, which is probably more dangerous, and I don't thank my garbage man. They do these things out of self-interest and it just happens to benefit society.


So if a doctor saves your life you wouldn't thank him because its his job? Let me guess you also don't tip anyone because its their job?

nightprowler10
12-10-2012, 07:45 PM
I was brought up in a different culture with a different mentality. I was shocked when I first heard/saw how disrespected the American military personnel were over here in their own country. My thought process was, it doesn't matter whether you agree with the war or not or whether what they're actually doing out there is what they should be doing or not, the fact is that they are going out there with the purpose of protecting your asses. At the very least you need to show them respect for that.

Over the years though, I hear stories of soldiers raping women, killing children, creating mass graves of civilians, and I feel differently. Having researched how the military acts when hailed as infallible and having seen my nation's army act the way they did after all the respect they got over the decades, my perspective has been changed. I had an ex-marine acquaintance who was super racist towards Arabs and eventually ended up in Iraq. How did his racist views affect his day-to-day? I mean I still respect the folks who sign up for the military for the same reasons, but it is important to realize that they're humans like us and we can't turn a blind eye to their actions.

To summarize my ramblings, do I randomly thank soldiers I meet or anyone I know on FB? No, because I don't know if I'm thanking a true soldier or a dip****. Do I show them respect for taking a difficult job that could get them killed? Absolutely.

Graviton
12-10-2012, 07:49 PM
You don't thank them because they protect you or your freedoms, because in reality they just follow the orders of a corrupt government and go into countries who pose no threat to the USA and overthrow the dictators America itself put there. In the process killing thousands of innocent civilians.

USA has 150+ bases all over the world, most of them around Muslim countries. It's to keep our power and influence around the world. We spend more money on our military than every other nation combined, we play the role of the big bully.

Anyway, you thank them because of their willingness to do the dirty work you can relax at home and not worry about a draft, or mandatory 2 year military service that lot of countries have. Thanks to them you don't have to die for someone's political gain or corporate profits.

nightprowler10
12-10-2012, 07:51 PM
Anyway, you thank them because of their willingness to do the dirty work you can relax at home and not worry about a draft, or mandatory 2 year military service that lot of countries have. Thanks to them you don't have to die for someone's political gain or corporate profits.
Yeah this is what I was trying to say in my long ass post.

jbot
12-10-2012, 11:22 PM
i used to think the same thing.

miller-time
12-10-2012, 11:47 PM
Palestine

Whats the difference?

joking.

ace23
12-11-2012, 12:49 AM
So if a doctor saves your life you wouldn't thank him because its his job?
What a terrible comparison.

Just2McFly
12-11-2012, 12:51 AM
What a terrible comparison.
really is

kNicKz
12-11-2012, 01:09 AM
So what if they signed up for it? What's so bad about just saying thank you to someone that has made your life better, keeps you safe, etc? Would you not thank your doctor if they performed life saving surgery on you? Even your garbage man, try saying thank you once in awhile it might make you and others happier.

Seriously, is this what's it's come to? Complaining about people appreciating other people's work?
...


Reiterating what a bunch of people have already said; there are other people who deserve our thanks, but people in the military risk their lives to protect us. The fact that you get annoyed by this makes you a douchebag.

kNicKz
12-11-2012, 01:14 AM
Nice comeback. try learning your history. You could start with statement by former secretary of states on the role of the US military in protecting US corporate holdings in other countries or the creation of banana republics or any number of topics. The US international military presence, particularly prior to the cold war, was primarily used to protect the economic interests of US corporations abroad.

This has NOTHING to do with thanking people that enlist. They enlist and put their lives in front of mine, what the elite politicians do with them is a different gripe


Another hero:

http://urbangrounds.com/wp-content/uploads//Tim_James_NBA.jpg

Lakers Legend#32
12-11-2012, 09:57 AM
We have not fought a war to protect our freedoms since WWII.

ZenMaster
12-11-2012, 11:03 AM
it doesn't matter whether you agree with the war or not or whether what they're actually doing out there is what they should be doing or not, the fact is that they are going out there with the purpose of protecting your asses.


This makes zero sense. So if someone thinks the military is in a war that has nothing to do with them or their protection, they should still be thinking that the war is for them and their protection?

kNicKz
12-11-2012, 11:16 AM
This makes zero sense. So if someone thinks the military is in a war that has nothing to do with them or their protection, they should still be thinking that the war is for them and their protection?

the SOLDIERS do it for our protection. SOLDIERS. if somebody did invade us they would be in that shit fighting them. their lives are 24/7 at the disposable for our safety, and for that they deserve thanks. if you have a problem with Iraq/Afghanistan blame bush sr./clinton/bush/obama


**** this thread, not sure if some of you are even serious. Not thanking our soldiers for their sacrifice? miss me with that shit :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Real Men Wear Green
12-11-2012, 11:30 AM
I hated the Iraq War. But I would never disrespect a soldier. We have to recognize the fact that they don't get to choose who they fight, that is the decision of the civilian government. While the Iraq war did nothing to keep us safe the fact that no country would dare declare war on us is a direct result of the might of our military and that strength is based on our troops.

ZeN
12-11-2012, 11:31 AM
Wait garbage man makes $80k a year? Wtf sign me up
:oldlol:

nightprowler10
12-11-2012, 12:59 PM
This makes zero sense. So if someone thinks the military is in a war that has nothing to do with them or their protection, they should still be thinking that the war is for them and their protection?
No, what I meant is that regardless of how you feel about the war they're fighting, they're out there volunteering themselves for something no one else will with the mindset that it's for their nation's protection. Whether it's true or not is a moot point in this regard.

Godzuki
12-11-2012, 04:01 PM
No, what I meant is that regardless of how you feel about the war they're fighting, they're out there volunteering themselves for something no one else will with the mindset that it's for their nation's protection. Whether it's true or not is a moot point in this regard.


they're not really volunteering themselves. a few are maybe, to most its a job. seems a lot of people lose sight of that along with a lot of other stuff regarding our military. like them fighting in wars is the basis of their job, and everything they do back home here in between is just training and upkeep for those situations. so there really is no basis to feel so guilt tripped that they're out there fighthing when they're doing their job. its not much different than a cop, fire fighter, etc. that puts ttheir life on the line except cops do it every day while soldiers do it periodically, albeit in more dangerous situations most of the time. i mean if you're thanking soldiers you might as well be thanking everyone that does anything dangerous working for the government.

what i think is retarded tho are people pretending to blame them for fighting. they might as well be blaming every soldier ever to pick up a gun. far left are retarded, and some foreigners are worse in how they distort to demonize.

Umad101
12-11-2012, 05:09 PM
they're not really volunteering themselves. a few are maybe, to most its a job. seems a lot of people lose sight of that along with a lot of other stuff regarding our military. like them fighting in wars is the basis of their job, and everything they do back home here in between is just training and upkeep for those situations. so there really is no basis to feel so guilt tripped that they're out there fighthing when they're doing their job. its not much different than a cop, fire fighter, etc. that puts ttheir life on the line except cops do it every day while soldiers do it periodically, albeit in more dangerous situations most of the time. i mean if you're thanking soldiers you might as well be thanking everyone that does anything dangerous working for the government.

what i think is retarded tho are people pretending to blame them for fighting. they might as well be blaming every soldier ever to pick up a gun. far left are retarded, and some foreigners are worse in how they distort to demonize.
Thank u someone gets it

Real Men Wear Green
12-11-2012, 05:15 PM
they're not really volunteering themselves. a few are maybe, to most its a job. seems a lot of people lose sight of that along with a lot of other stuff regarding our military. like them fighting in wars is the basis of their job, and everything they do back home here in between is just training and upkeep for those situations. so there really is no basis to feel so guilt tripped that they're out there fighthing when they're doing their job. its not much different than a cop, fire fighter, etc. that puts ttheir life on the line except cops do it every day while soldiers do it periodically, albeit in more dangerous situations most of the time. i mean if you're thanking soldiers you might as well be thanking everyone that does anything dangerous working for the government.

what i think is retarded tho are people pretending to blame them for fighting. they might as well be blaming every soldier ever to pick up a gun. far left are retarded, and some foreigners are worse in how they distort to demonize.
There is nothing wrong with showing appreciation for people that put their lives on the line professionally for the greater good.

AlphaWolf24
12-11-2012, 06:38 PM
they're not really volunteering themselves. a few are maybe, to most its a job. seems a lot of people lose sight of that along with a lot of other stuff regarding our military. like them fighting in wars is the basis of their job, and everything they do back home here in between is just training and upkeep for those situations. so there really is no basis to feel so guilt tripped that they're out there fighthing when they're doing their job. its not much different than a cop, fire fighter, etc. that puts ttheir life on the line except cops do it every day while soldiers do it periodically, albeit in more dangerous situations most of the time. i mean if you're thanking soldiers you might as well be thanking everyone that does anything dangerous working for the government.

what i think is retarded tho are people pretending to blame them for fighting. they might as well be blaming every soldier ever to pick up a gun. far left are retarded, and some foreigners are worse in how they distort to demonize.


Not true at all....

a grunt will have a much more dangerous / mental draining /Physical experience then 99% of any police officer. Humping a Alice for most of your career is much different then riding around in a car giving tickets.

miller-time
12-11-2012, 09:32 PM
Whats the difference?

joking.

Lol someone negged me on that, must have missed the white text...

MadeFromDust
12-11-2012, 10:00 PM
Go be a "martyr" OP
1) take a trip to the desert without packing water
2) strap a bomb vest on
3) hit the red button and proceed to deflower 72 mustached, armpit haired virgins
happy happy joy joy :)