Best 5 teams you've seen in your lifetime?

[fpliii]

Who you got?

[Coolaak]

Jordan Bulls
Lebron Heat
Shaq Lakers
Duncan Spurs
Boston ( KG, Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, Rondo)

[fpliii]

Jordan Bulls
Lebron Heat
Shaq Lakers
Duncan Spurs
Boston ( KG, Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, Rondo)

Good picks, what about single-season teams? One from each, or would one be represented multiple times in your top 5?

[EnoughSaid]

Only really started watching in 08-09 sooo

1. Miami Heat 2012
2. LA Lakers 2009-2010
3. Dallas Mavericks 2011
4. Boston Celtics 2010
5. Oklahoma City Thunder 2011-2012

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Best in no order:
'93 Bulls
'96 Bulls
'08 Celtics
'04 Pistons (post sheed)
'01 Lakers

Favorite:
'95 Lakers
Last years Clippers team
'96 Lakers (the games Magic played were amazing)
'99 Knicks (after LA was eliminated by SA, I was pulling for NY hard)
Current Clippers team

[fpliii]

Best in no order:
'93 Bulls
'96 Bulls
'08 Celtics
'04 Pistons (post sheed)
'01 Lakers

Favorite:
'95 Lakers
Last years Clippers team
'96 Lakers (the games Magic played were amazing)
'99 Knicks (after LA was eliminated by SA, I was pulling for NY hard)
Current Clippers team

by some metrics the best defense in league history

[Myth]

Only really started watching in 08-09 sooo

1. Miami Heat 2012
2. LA Lakers 2009-2010
3. Dallas Mavericks 2011
4. Boston Celtics 2010
5. Oklahoma City Thunder 2011-2012

People may give you crap for that list, but I appreciate your straightforwardness. Many would just pretend that they know shit that they don't.

[scandisk_]

96 bulls
92 knicks
01 lake squad
08 c's
04 lakers :pimp:

[mrbigshot1]

04 Pistons

[rmt]

by some metrics the best defense in league history

Actually no - 2003-04 Spurs were #1 in opponent points per game, opponent FG% and defensive rating to 2003-04 Pistons #2 in corresponding categories.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2004.html

[fpliii]

Actually no - 2003-04 Spurs were #1 in opponent points per game, opponent FG% and defensive rating to 2003-04 Pistons #2 in corresponding categories.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2004.html

read again:


'04 Pistons (post sheed)

they didn't sustain that level of dominance for long, but they had a ridiculous stretch from that trade through the end of the Finals

[Reggie43]

1996 Bulls
2000 Lakers
2000 Blazers
1993 Suns
1997 Jazz

[TheeBeast]

Only really started watching in 08-09 sooo

1. Miami Heat 2012
2. LA Lakers 2009-2010
3. Dallas Mavericks 2011
4. Boston Celtics 2010
5. Oklahoma City Thunder 2011-2012

I've only been a active junkie since 08, but since then I've done my homework on NBA history.


1.09 Lakers (prime Kobe, prime Gasol, prime Odom, Bynum in the playoffs)
This team would eat 2012 Miami alive from the front court to the back.

2. Mavericks 2011 (Playoffwise, this team went on a crack binge and became unbeatable)

3. 2012 Miami Heat

4. 2010 Lakers

5. 2010 Celtics

[Y2Gezee]

I like this topic. These may not be the top 5. But I'm only going with champions.

96 Bulls

92 Bulls

02 Lakers

04 Pistons (Wallace X2)

2008 Celtics....


The Heat have yet to actually put together a great team IMO. I thought we'd have seen one last year, but Wade and Bosh were not healthy the entire time in the playoffs.

[francesco totti]

I like this topic. These may not be the top 5. But I'm only going with champions.

96 Bulls

92 Bulls

02 Lakers

04 Pistons (Wallace X2)

2008 Celtics....


The Heat have yet to actually put together a great team IMO. I thought we'd have seen one last year, but Wade and Bosh were not healthy the entire time in the playoffs.

The 08 celtics had more troubles during playoffs, then 12 heat.

[TheeBeast]

I like this topic. These may not be the top 5. But I'm only going with champions.

96 Bulls

92 Bulls

02 Lakers

04 Pistons (Wallace X2)

2008 Celtics....


The Heat have yet to actually put together a great team IMO. I thought we'd have seen one last year, but Wade and Bosh were not healthy the entire time in the playoffs.

If 2010 celtics are top 5 of all time they woulda handed it to the Lakers with Tim Donaghy officiating :lol

[ThaRegul8r]

People may give you crap for that list, but I appreciate your straightforwardness. Many would just pretend that they know shit that they don't.

Why should anyone give anyone crap for their list? The question being asked here is what are the best teams you've seen. Which depends entirely on what you've seen.

I've been maintaining for years now that most people need to start posting GIES lists (Greatest I've Ever Seen) and leave GOAT lists alone, as "all time" encompasses more than "since I started watching."

[pauk]

1. 1996 Bulls
2. 2000 Lakers
3. 2004 Pistons
4. 1993 Suns
5. 1997 Jazz

[Y2Gezee]

The 08 celtics had more troubles during playoffs, then 12 heat.

But, their defense was maybe the best we've ever seen in the NBA though. They had "trouble" but I knew they were going to come out of the East at least.

[Poetry]

1997 Jazz


5. 1997 Jazz

Good pick, underrated team.

[stephanieg]

People are really saying flawed teams like the Heat and OKC are some of the best teams they've ever seen? Makes me feel weird. Or maybe just old. Even the good Spurs teams from a couple years ago would embarrass these guys, and that wasn't even that long ago. Would probably handle the '08 Celts too, but at least those guys could D up and had some sort of actual ball movement

[ThaRegul8r]

People are really saying flawed teams like the Heat and OKC are some of the best teams they've ever seen? Makes me feel weird. Or maybe just old.

If that's what they've seen, that's what they've seen. This topic is only asking for the best teams people have seen, which entirely depends on when they started watching basketball. If someone wasn't watching basketball yet when the Spurs were winning titles, then they wouldn't be on that person's list of best teams they've seen.

[miles berg]

1. 1992 Bulls
2. 1986 Celtics
3. 1984 Lakers
4. 1996 Bulls
5. 2000 Lakers

[EnoughSaid]

People may give you crap for that list, but I appreciate your straightforwardness. Many would just pretend that they know shit that they don't.

Thanks man. Yeah I mean I can obviously just say "90's Bulls, Shaq/Kobe Lakers, Pistons" but nah I have never seen those teams play a game.

[Champ]

In order...

1986 Celtics
1983 Sixers
1987 Lakers
1996 Bulls
1992 Bulls

[CeltsGarlic]

In order (5-1)
2013 Rio Grande Valley Vipers
2008 Celtics
2011 CSKA
2010 Panathinaikos
1998 Zalgiris

[Papaya Petee]

I've only been a active junkie since 08, but since then I've done my homework on NBA history.


1.09 Lakers (prime Kobe, prime Gasol, prime Odom, Bynum in the playoffs)
This team would eat 2012 Miami alive from the front court to the back.

2. Mavericks 2011 (Playoffwise, this team went on a crack binge and became unbeatable)

3. 2012 Miami Heat

4. 2010 Lakers

5. 2010 Celtics

:wtf: The 2008 Boston Celtics would destroy this team, just like they did the year before.

[Rubio2Gasol]

2002 Kings deserve a mention.

[colts19]

In order...

1986 Celtics
1983 Sixers
1987 Lakers
1996 Bulls
1992 Bulls

Great List. :bowdown: :bowdown:

[sixer6ad]

#1 - 96 Bulls
#2 - #5 - Close your eyes and pick either the Lakers or the Celtics who played each other in the Finals that decade.

Bird, McHale, Parrish, Dennis Johnson - are you freaking serious?
Magic, Kareem, Worthy, Byron Scott, Norm Nixon, Jamaal Wilkes - Seriously?

There are some junkies on here. One thing I wish for you is that you could have watched the Celtics vs. Lakers in the 80's. Today's Finals compared to then? Child's play.

[sixer6ad]

Only really started watching in 08-09 sooo

1. Miami Heat 2012
2. LA Lakers 2009-2010
3. Dallas Mavericks 2011
4. Boston Celtics 2010
5. Oklahoma City Thunder 2011-2012

It's understood that a current, young fan would post this list, but it's far from reality.

Not one of these teams would be on an all-time list. Not one.

[Rasheed1]

83 76ers
84 Celts
87 Lakers
93 Bulls
97 Bulls


:cheers:

[boozehound]

seen as in seen live?

bad boys, 89-90
04 pistons
bulls in 97-98
.....
damn, most other teams that Ive seen live dont hold a candle to those 3...

probably the mavs in 06?
and the rockets in 09?

Never saw the spurs live the entire time I lived in texas. what was I thinking

[BlueandGold]

Really hard to say given that you can't really compare championship teams from different seasons. If i had to narrow it down to 3 different teams i'd have to say

late 90s Bulls
early 00s Lakers
early-mid 00s Spurs


Only really started watching in 08-09 sooo

1. Miami Heat 2012
2. LA Lakers 2009-2010
3. Dallas Mavericks 2011
4. Boston Celtics 2010
5. Oklahoma City Thunder 2011-2012

no wonder ur garbage

[La Frescobaldi]

Not sure I can choose 5. It's definitely down to these teams for me and it's all purely memory driven rather than stat sheet. Also have to consider who they played against.

'67 Sixers - oldest team on here and the greatest team of all time

'68 Sixers - better team than '67 but blew up with injuries in the playoffs so if it has to be rings they're a scratch

'72 Lakers Wilt Chamberlain Happy Hairston Jimmy MacMillian, Logo & Goodrich
easily one of my favorite teams ever!!

'73 Knicks Roll Royce Backcourt all you need to say but that entire team was so stacked...

'74 Celtics Hondo Cowens & JoJo run wild and beat Kareem in his glory day

People will say the '70s NBA was the weakest era but I don't agree at all. Later 70s yeah maybe, but not the first half. Fact is, I could argue that was the Golden Age of the NBA... Kareem, Wilt, Oscar, Logo & Goodrich, Rolls Royce Knicks, Havlicek & Cowens... the original bad boy Chicago Bulls...

'82 Lakers Magic goes on a rant and gets his coach fired... rooks coach Riles wins ring

'83 Sixers Moses Malone ran over everyone to make sure aged Dr. J got a ring

'86 Celtics - in the running for greatest of all time.... this was salad days of Robert Parish and McHale, Danny Ainge.... DJ incredibly underrated all over plus of course incomparable LB

I hated the Pistons teams for dirty play but they were great no doubt about it.

'93 Bulls - in the running for greatest of all time

That 3peat of Shaq was pretty amazing teams. I don't care what anybody says about Robert Horry sagging off in the regular season that guy was incredible. D Fish was amazing and of course Kobe8 was just the spin doctor

'04 Pistons - I'd rank these guys up there, it was brief but they were somethin FIERCE
'11 Mavs played true team basketball. As far as stacked? Opposite of stacked. But they played truest basketball of the last many many years.

I can't rank em except that first one, and I can't say but what you could have 2 or 3 of the Jordan Pippen Bulls teams on there. My only complaint as far as Bulls is that league was awfully watery. Lot of teams in the league that couldn't have beat top-flight college teams right at that time of expansion.

But see the Manu Tony Timmy Dunkin Spurs ain't on here......... man this question is hard for a older guy.......... lololol

[miggyme1]

95-96 Seatlle Supersonics
Jordans Bulls In The 90s- ( Yes Im Old )
98-99 New York Knicks
2000-2003 Lakers- ( Hated Them But U Cant Deny Greatness )
2010-2011 Dallas Mavericks


For All U Bums Listing The Heat Yall Know Nun Bout Bball...its Sad...this Team Isnt At All That Good...yea They Got A Ring And Hats Off To Them....but If The Heat Are The Best Team Yall Seen In Yall Lifetime U Cant Be A Serious Fan Of Basketball....that Heat Team Is Good But They Are Like The Teams Jordan Kept Beating In The Playoffs Every Year (pacers,utah,etc) Couple Hall Of Famers And The Rest Of The Team Is Poorly Put Together...good Enough To Compete But The Best Ever?

[TheeBeast]

:wtf: The 2008 Boston Celtics would destroy this team, just like they did the year before.

I didn't count em in because I didn't watch the 08 series.

[Myth]

Why should anyone give anyone crap for their list? The question being asked here is what are the best teams you've seen. Which depends entirely on what you've seen.

I've been maintaining for years now that most people need to start posting GIES lists (Greatest I've Ever Seen) and leave GOAT lists alone, as "all time" encompasses more than "since I started watching."

I don't think anybody should give him crap. But this is ISH, so I've come to expect certain things.

I agree with your GIES idea.

[fpliii]

I've been maintaining for years now that most people need to start posting GIES lists (Greatest I've Ever Seen) and leave GOAT lists alone, as "all time" encompasses more than "since I started watching."

Pretty much. I've done a good deal of research on some of the all-time greats from the 50s/60s/70s, but I still feel irresponsible ranking a lot of guys based on my limited exposure. Hell, even though I've watched all the WCF/ECF/Finals from the 80s (thankfully we have YouTube nowadays so this is no longer an inpossiblity), I still feel like I can't aptly dissect players/teams from prior to the early 90s without doing a great disservice to the history of the sport.

EDIT: BTW I'll post my list shortly...I have about 10 teams I'm looking at, trying to parse through them.

[tmacattack33]

96 Bulls
00 Lakers
03 Spurs
08 Celtics
04 Pistons

Best non-champions:
01 Kings
96 Magic
97 Jazz

At some point when I was really really young i'm sure i ended up landing on the 93 Bulls or something while flipping channels, but i didn't really truly follow the nba until 95.

[kingBynum]

current knicks team

[TheFan]

95-96 Bulls.
99-00 Lakers.
07-08 Celtics.
08-09 Lakers.
02-03 Spurs.

[Eric Cartman]

'92 Bulls
'93 Bulls
'95 Rockets
'96 Bulls
'97 Bulls
2001 Lakers
2004 Pistons
2008 Celtics
2013 Heat

:biggums:

[ILLsmak]

I don't feel the Heat are as impressive as some of those older teams. I think they have too many weaknesses.

-Smak

[Money 23]

:biggums:
:oldlol:

I think they are going to dominate in the 2nd half of the season and playoffs. I'm pretty sure they're totally coasting as it stands right now.

Yes, they don't have a dominant center, but neither did the Bulls of the 90's and that was an era when there was QUALITY centers. That's pretty much one of the only holes within their team.

The 2013 Heat, obviously it's a bold statement, but I'm pretty sure they will end up one of the best teams that I've ever seen.

'91 Bulls
'92 Bulls
'93 Bulls
'95 Rockets
'96 Bulls
'97 Bulls
2001 Lakers
2004 Pistons
2008 Celtics
2013 Heat

[bdreason]

Magic Lakers
Bird Celtics
Jordan Bulls
Isaiah Pistons
Shaq Lakers

[goldenryan]

96 Bulls, 01 Lakers, 04 Pistons, 99 Spurs, 2002 Kings (shame on all you for not mentioning them :no: )

[fpliii]

Here's my shortlist:

92 Bulls
95 Rockets
*96 Bulls
97 Bulls
99 Spurs
*01 Lakers
03 Spurs
04 Pistons
*08 Celtics
09 Lakers

I believe the asterisked teams should be locks (from 90-91 to the present), just have to pick out two others.

[LA Lakers]

95-96 Seatlle Supersonics
Jordans Bulls In The 90s- ( Yes Im Old )
98-99 New York Knicks
2000-2003 Lakers- ( Hated Them But U Cant Deny Greatness )
2010-2011 Dallas Mavericks


For All U Bums Listing The Heat Yall Know Nun Bout Bball...its Sad...this Team Isnt At All That Good...yea They Got A Ring And Hats Off To Them....but If The Heat Are The Best Team Yall Seen In Yall Lifetime U Cant Be A Serious Fan Of Basketball....that Heat Team Is Good But They Are Like The Teams Jordan Kept Beating In The Playoffs Every Year (pacers,utah,etc) Couple Hall Of Famers And The Rest Of The Team Is Poorly Put Together...good Enough To Compete But The Best Ever?
I disagree completely. Miracle 2010-2011 Dallas won that series and youve got them listed as one of the greatest of all time. Dallas had what miracle comeback in game 3 or 4? Anyway, I think the Heat are gonna be like Chicago in the 90s, nobody beating those boys.
Anyway thats my 2 cents on that as if anyone gives a damn.
5 best Teams is tough, probably any of Jordans, Magic/Kareems and Birds teams take your pick. Wasnt old enough to see Wilt/Goodrich/West but my father said those were some of the best Lakers teams of all time.

[red1]

Jordan bulls 96-98
Shaq lakers 99-02
Duncan spurs 05-07
Kobe lakers 08-10

Last spot is a tossup between 08-10 celtics, 10-12 heat and 04 pistons. Leaning towards the heat but choosing any of the three is respectable.

[LA Lakers]

Anybody here love MJ but hated the Bulls? Man I couldnt stand them. Only time I rooted for them was against Utah cuz I really couldnt stand Mailman.

[ProfessorMurder]

Shout out for the 2004-2005 Pacers - (pre-Brawl) They took the 04 Pistons to 6 games in the ECF, and were playing much better before all the suspensions. I think they could've won in 05.

[Just2McFly]

2002 Kings
2004 Pistons
2001 Lakers
96 Bulls
2012 Heat

[Callystarr]

This is based on me heavily starting to watch basketball around 1991...
Too bad, those Suns/Jazz teams had to run into MJ those were some great teams...


Chicago Bulls 1995-1998
Detroit Pistons 2003-2004
Utah Jazz 1996-1998
Chicago Bulls 1990-1993
Boston Celtics 2008
Phoenix Suns 1993
Los Angeles Lakers 1999-2002
Sacramento Kings 2002
Miami Heat 2012
San Antonio Spurs 1999
Seattle Supersonics 1995

[Money 23]

Too bad, those Suns/Jazz teams had to run into MJ those were some great teams...
Absolutely. If we're counting NON Finals winning teams. I'd take some teams over recent championship winners.

'92 Blazers
'93 Knicks
'93 Suns
'94 Knicks
'95 Magic
'96 Magic
'96 Sonics
'97 Heat
'97 Jazz
'98 Pacers

Were some AMAZING teams.

[Gotterdammerung]

Who you got?

I'll go by chronological order:

1993 Bulls. They had nerves of steel. Didn't matter if they were down 0-2 in the playoffs (60-win Knicks). Or if they were facing the '93 MVP with homecourt advantage and his proclamations of destiny. :no:

1995 Rockets. Not once did they have homecourt advantage. Didn't matter. After winning in 1994, the Rockets seemed hungrier than ever. Down in the first two series, rallied to win them. Destroyed the 1995 MVP in the West conference finals. Swept heavily favorites in the Finals. Although it was mostly a one-man wrecking crew, Drexler and others stepped up in the clutch many, many times. Elie's kiss of death. Kenny Smith's record 7 threes in Game 1 of the Finals. :banana:

1996 Bulls. Probably the greatest of them all. The only time I ever saw them struggle was after being up 3-0 in the Finals over the best Seattle Sonics team ever. Their toughest enemy was boredom. Dennis Rodman's relentless rebounding and goading of goons was friggin' hilarious. :oldlol:

2001 Lakers. Shaq at his absolute prime, and Kobe just beginning his. Nobody could even compete, much less beat them, with the sole exception of a 48-point explosion by the 2001 MVP. :eek:

Can't go with any of the Spurs teams, except probably 2005, but they got pushed to the distance by the powerful defending champions, and the 2007 edition bullied a weak sister in the Cavaliers. 2008 Celtics were dominant during the season, but struggled badly in the playoffs, got pushed 7 games twice by meh teams. 2012 Heat was good, but they weren't fully healthy, and you didn't believe in them until Lebron's 45 point detonation in Game 6 of the Eastern conference finals.
:biggums:

[LA Lakers]

I still cant get over that we never saw Hakeem Vs MJ Finals. 95 woulda been something else and maybe Glide gets his revenge.

[BlueandGold]

I'll go by chronological order:

1993 Bulls. They had nerves of steel. Didn't matter if they were down 0-2 in the playoffs (60-win Knicks). Or if they were facing the '93 MVP with homecourt advantage and his proclamations of destiny. :no:

1995 Rockets. Not once did they have homecourt advantage. Didn't matter. After winning in 1994, the Rockets seemed hungrier than ever. Down in the first two series, rallied to win them. Destroyed the 1995 MVP in the West conference finals. Swept heavily favorites in the Finals. Although it was mostly a one-man wrecking crew, Drexler and others stepped up in the clutch many, many times. Elie's kiss of death. Kenny Smith's record 7 threes in Game 1 of the Finals. :banana:

1996 Bulls. Probably the greatest of them all. The only time I ever saw them struggle was after being up 3-0 in the Finals over the best Seattle Sonics team ever. Their toughest enemy was boredom. Dennis Rodman's relentless rebounding and goading of goons was friggin' hilarious. :oldlol:

2001 Lakers. Shaq at his absolute prime, and Kobe just beginning his. Nobody could even compete, much less beat them, with the sole exception of a 48-point explosion by the 2001 MVP. :eek:

Can't go with any of the Spurs teams, except probably 2005, but they got pushed to the distance by the powerful defending champions, and the 2007 edition bullied a weak sister in the Cavaliers. 2008 Celtics were dominant during the season, but struggled badly in the playoffs, got pushed 7 games twice by meh teams. 2012 Heat was good, but they weren't fully healthy, and you didn't believe in them until Lebron's 45 point detonation in Game 6 of the Eastern conference finals.
:biggums:

I remember that actually.

Barkley: "God wants us to win the nba finals" :facepalm

[Burgz V2]

93 Bulls
'96 Bulls
'95 Rockets
'04 Pistons (post sheed)
'01 Lakers

honorable mention: '03 Spurs. Just because of the way the played. Timmy really carried them in the Western Conference playoffs, but their supporting class really blossomed under pressure.

my favourite team i gotta throw in there, '00 Raptors. you NEVER left the room when the game was on because chances are you were about to miss something spectacular. VC and T-Mac...what could have been:cry: :cry: :cry:

[hitmanyr2k]

'83 Sixers

'92 Bulls

'95 Rockets

'97 Bulls - Just as dominant but much healthier than the '96 team which was really banged up in the later stretches of the regular season and the playoffs.

'05 Spurs - Complete and balanced team on both ends. This was truly the first West champion of the 2000's to face great competition and get tested during an entire playoff run. Let's face it, the 3peat Lakers were getting cupcakes in the Finals. The first time they ran into a real team they folded like a cheap lawn chair.



Honorable mention :
'11 Mavs - Based on the competition they faced from beginning to end they impressed me more than any champion since '05. Taking out the Thunder, Lakers and Heat in one playoff run is no joke.

[fpliii]

Updated my picks from before...

In for sure:

*96 Bulls
*01 Lakers
*08 Celtics

Top two candidates to make it into my top 5:

92 Bulls
95 Rockets excellent team

Teams from above (haven't ruled any out yet, but they all have various issues):

97 Bulls Rodman got a little complacent, and didn't rebound as well in the playoffs, but I still might put them in
99 Spurs/03 Spurs have to decide if a near-GOAT level performance from Timmy, the addition of Parker+Manu+Bowen is worth the decline from the Admiral; put a younger DRob on the 03 team and they're up there with the 3 definites I listed
04 Pistons would be in my top 5 for sure, but Sheed got there late in the season
09 Lakers not that the Magic were a bad team (best defense in the league), but they might make my top 5 if they beat the Celtics this season (the next year both Boston/LA were worse IMO)

[Micku]

Hmm.

I watched the 98 Bulls, and even went to one of their games, but I was very young at the time, and wasn't really a Bulls fan. I didn't really get into basketball until late 2000. I would toss in the 98 Bulls in there anyway since they were one of hte best, but old.

98 Bulls-I wasn't really a Bulls fan, and I was young, but even though they were old and crippled, they were basically the flagship of the saying "defense win games" team. They always find a way to pull it through.

01 Lakers- Sucky bench, but with the combination of Shaq and Kobe, plus role players who knew their roles, they were one of the best teams that I ever seen. Afro Kobe was also more entertaining.

02 Kings- One of the best teams to never win a title. Very fun team. Great offense, good defense.

05 Spurs- I hate the Spurs, but they were a great team. Balance offensively, great defensively. Duncan, as always in the playoffs, was great. Ginobili played awesome, and Horry basically did his usual awesome clutch shots against the Pistons.

04 Pistons- I hate this team, but post Sheed they were great. I didn't think they could even reach the Finals, let alone win it.


My honorable mention/favorite teams:

98 Lakers- They had better talent, better bench, and a better starting lineup than threepeat 00s Lakers. And they were much more fun to watch. They were just immature and didn't have the proper direction.

04-05 Heat- This Heat team to me might've been the best Heat team of all time. Even though ppl would look at the 12 or 06 because they win the championship, I think this Heat was better than the 06 Heat team, which looked awkward offensively at times, and not as good defensively and they had a better balance. I think they are better than the 12 Heat team as well, but they had to deal with injuries. Probably the 11 Heat team was on par with the 04-05 Heat team come playoffs, but LeBron didn't play to his caliber in the 11 Finals.

08-09 Laker team: They had talent, great passing skills, and they look fluent on offense. The reason why the 09-10 Laker team isn't here is because Artest didn't fit well with the triangle as Ariza did, and they Gasol and Kobe were more efficient that year.