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talkingconch
12-16-2012, 02:20 AM
in order to be a high 50 win team and hopefully in top 3 seeds

Can they do it?

knickswin
12-16-2012, 02:24 AM
:oldlol:

imnew09
12-16-2012, 02:31 AM
I want them to make it to the top 4 or 5 spots!

KG215
12-16-2012, 02:38 AM
So they have to play .800 ball over their final 58 games? And Steve Nash is out at least another two weeks?

Yeah, good luck with that.

knickswin
12-16-2012, 02:43 AM
So they have to play .800 ball over their final 58 games? And Steve Nash is out at least another two weeks?

Yeah, good luck with that.

this lakers team just isn't good. their defense is bad. dwight's not playing like dwight. most of their roster is trash. this is not a team capable of playing anything close to .800 ball for extended periods .

keepinitreal
12-16-2012, 02:48 AM
Default Lakers now have to lose 1 game for every 5 won

They actually don't have to lose any games. :P

I'm predicting 5th seed for them at this point. If everyone gets healthy, they are a top 4 team in the league.

TheeBeast
12-16-2012, 02:52 AM
in order to be a high 50 win team and hopefully in top 3 seeds

Can they do it?

If:

-Meeks/Jamison stay consistent and bring it every night
-Kobe gets 6+ ast per game until Nash returns.
-Dwight shoots 50+ ft%
-Defense is better than decent

Rubio2Gasol
12-16-2012, 02:53 AM
They should aim for 6 or 5.

Clippers or Memphis.

KG215
12-16-2012, 02:56 AM
this lakers team just isn't good. their defense is bad. dwight's not playing like dwight. most of their roster is trash. this is not a team capable of playing anything close to .800 ball for extended periods .
I agree, but that's pretty much what this means. Now, with a healthy Nash and Gasol, and 100% Howard, I don't think them playing roughly .750 ball is out of the question, but how many games will they get all of that over their final 58? 40? More? Less?

If they play .800 ball over their next 50 games, they'd be 50-24; and even if they won those last 8 games to get to 58-24, it still probably won't be enough for the one-seed and maybe even the two-seed. And that's best case scenario.

Doesn't really matter, though. If everyone gets healthy and they start peaking heading to the playoffs, they'll be a very legit threat to win it all in my opinion. Or at the very least a really, really tough out..

tmacattack33
12-16-2012, 02:57 AM
They shouldn't be thinking about seeds. They just gotta go and turn things around right now...looking at the seeds will just make them depressed.

Graviton
12-16-2012, 03:09 AM
I agree, but that's pretty much what this means. Now, with a healthy Nash and Gasol, and 100% Howard, I don't think them playing roughly .750 ball is out of the question, but how many games will they get all of that over their final 58? 40? More? Less?

Doesn't really matter, though. If everyone gets healthy and they start peaking heading to the playoffs, they'll be a very legit threat to win it all in my opinion. Or at the very least a really, really tough out..
Bleh no matter how healthy they get, they will still get raped by OKC, Clippers, Spurs.

Dwight won't magically be 100% in 4-5 months.
Nash won't be any younger or durable.
Gasol won't be any more motivated.
Kobe won't just play better D or shoot less.
Danthoni is still the coach and their bench/defense will still be below average.
Westbrook, Parker, CP3, Durant will still own them.

L.Kizzle
12-16-2012, 03:10 AM
Over under 20?

Will the Lakers win 20 games first, or will they lose 20 games?

PyrrhusX
12-16-2012, 03:23 AM
They should just aim for the matchup that likely suits them when it gets down to it. The priority for the lakers right now should be to make the playoffs. The top 4 for the west could very likely be a mix of SAS, OKC, LAC and MEM.... lakers should pick the team that suits and force the matchup.

This is all assuming, of course, they make the playoffs and have a chance to pick their poison.

TheeBeast
12-16-2012, 03:25 AM
Bleh no matter how healthy they get, they will still get raped by OKC, Clippers, Spurs.

Dwight won't magically be 100% in 4-5 months.
Nash won't be any younger or durable.
Gasol won't be any more motivated.
Kobe won't just play better D or shoot less.
Danthoni is still the coach and their bench/defense will still be below average.
Westbrook, Parker, CP3, Durant will still own them.

These are the only ones for sure.

White Mamba
12-16-2012, 04:12 AM
Over under 20?

Will the Lakers win 20 games first, or will they lose 20 games?

they win 20 be4 they lose 20.

they 10-14 now.

Graviton
12-16-2012, 04:15 AM
These are the only ones for sure.
You think Gasol is gonna be motivated after 2 playoff disappearing acts?

Dwight has lost his quickness and vertical, doubt 4 months will be enough. Guy is barely finishing off open dunks.

TheeBeast
12-16-2012, 04:21 AM
I'm hearing the Lakers are going to put Pau back as the second option, Kobe even mentioned it in the interview that they want to play through Pau and put him back in the post when he comes back.

I think Dwight will come back into form sometime after the all star break, if not before the playoffs. Maybe not 100% but maybe he could start making his dunks..

All Net
12-16-2012, 04:25 AM
So they have to play .800 ball over their final 58 games? And Steve Nash is out at least another two weeks?

Yeah, good luck with that.

:(

RazorBaLade
12-16-2012, 04:35 AM
I'm hearing the Lakers are going to put Pau back as the second option, Kobe even mentioned it in the interview that they want to play through Pau and put him back in the post when he comes back.

I think Dwight will come back into form sometime after the all star break, if not before the playoffs. Maybe not 100% but maybe he could start making his dunks..

From what I understand:

Lakers offense for 14-16 seconds: Nash howard p/r, nash does what he does)
final seconds: put pau on the block and run traditional kobe/pau offense where pau passes to someone, kobe, or takes it himself

thats the plan from what i read

Money 23
12-16-2012, 04:47 AM
You think Gasol is gonna be motivated after 2 playoff disappearing acts?

Dwight has lost his quickness and vertical, doubt 4 months will be enough. Guy is barely finishing off open dunks.
Sad, but true.

In both cases. Good post.

NumberSix
12-16-2012, 04:47 AM
I'll just be happy if they make the playoffs. At this rate, a 6th or 7th seed would as much as I would reasonably hop for. Maybe a 5th if they ball out.

LEFT4DEAD
12-16-2012, 04:59 AM
I dont see them being 6th or higher seed by the end of the regular season. Spurs, Grizz, Clipps and Thunder will finish with better record, and its 100% sure now.
I can see Minnesota finishing 5th since they are now healthy, and Warriors who are playing great basketball at no. 6, not higher just because somebody will get hurt (hopefully not).
I think Lakers will be fighting for seed no.7 and no.8 with Dallas (when Nowitzki comes back), Denver and Utah. If they make the playoffs this year, it will be barely.

talkingconch
12-16-2012, 05:51 AM
I dont see them being 6th or higher seed by the end of the regular season. Spurs, Grizz, Clipps and Thunder will finish with better record, and its 100% sure now.
I can see Minnesota finishing 5th since they are now healthy, and Warriors who are playing great basketball at no. 6, not higher just because somebody will get hurt (hopefully not).
I think Lakers will be fighting for seed no.7 and no.8 with Dallas (when Nowitzki comes back), Denver and Utah. If they make the playoffs this year, it will be barely.
lol

LEFT4DEAD
12-16-2012, 06:23 AM
lol
Most desperate "lol" I have ever seen!

Asiantastic
12-16-2012, 06:30 AM
It's doable. Actually not really. Let's hope that D'Antoni changes parts of his system to better suit these players.

Can't depend on a 39 year old player.

kNIOKAS
12-16-2012, 07:34 AM
LA BABy http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/502a70deecad048452000001-400-/dwight-howard-los-angeles-lakers.jpg

Graviton
12-16-2012, 07:37 AM
LA BABy http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/502a70deecad048452000001-400-/dwight-howard-los-angeles-lakers.jpg
lol dude you post this in every Laker panic thread, is there a hidden "lesson" in the pic?

The_Yearning
12-16-2012, 07:50 AM
they win 20 be4 they lose 20.

they 10-14 now.

Nah.

KOBE143
12-16-2012, 07:51 AM
We still going to win the championship tho so 8 seed is already enough..

b1imtf
12-16-2012, 08:14 AM
We still going to win the championship tho so 8 seed is already enough..
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

R.I.P.
12-16-2012, 09:24 AM
in order to be a high 50 win team and hopefully in top 3 seeds

Can they do it?

How many can they lose to win 73? :D

BlackWhiteGreen
12-16-2012, 09:25 AM
So they have to play .800 ball over their final 58 games? And Steve Nash is out at least another two weeks?

Yeah, good luck with that.

In fairness the title states they have to play .833 ball if you take it literally (5 wins/6 games). That would leave them at 58-24. More likely they'll get to about 47-35 (.638 for the last 58 games).

I<3NBA
12-16-2012, 01:40 PM
More likely they'll get to about 47-35 (.638 for the last 58 games).
i feel that won't be enough to get 8 seed in the west.

Duderonomy
12-16-2012, 03:16 PM
i feel that won't be enough to get 8 seed in the west.
what are you smoking?

6.Minnesota 12-9
7.Utah 13-12
8.Denver 12-12

Lakers and Mavs will probably bump of two of those teams out.

BlueandGold
12-16-2012, 03:18 PM
they will go 60-0 in next 60 games. Book it.

knickswin
12-16-2012, 04:20 PM
the thing is, they're not even playing .500 ball right now and they look like a 10-14 team. I don't know how one could expect this team to win .65, .70, .80 of its remaining games. they're just not that good.

BlackWhiteGreen
12-16-2012, 06:09 PM
the thing is, they're not even playing .500 ball right now and they look like a 10-14 team. I don't know how one could expect this team to win .65, .70, .80 of its remaining games. they're just not that good.

They look like that without 2 of their top 4 players - be fair, they definitely SHOULD play much better with Gasol and Nash. Whether they will or not, different question.

Rysio
12-16-2012, 06:19 PM
first ever 7-8th seed to win the championship. lakers just keep on making history. :applause:

TheBigVeto
12-16-2012, 08:06 PM
in order to be a high 50 win team and hopefully in top 3 seeds

Can they do it?

Yep. It's gonna be easy once Nash comes back.

I<3NBA
12-16-2012, 10:34 PM
what are you smoking?

6.Minnesota 12-9
7.Utah 13-12
8.Denver 12-12

Lakers and Mavs will probably bump of two of those teams out.
and you base this on?

KG215
12-16-2012, 10:37 PM
Well, that's two in a row. Now if they could just play the Wizards and the 76ers without Holiday and Bynum every night.

:D

Just2McFly
12-16-2012, 11:15 PM
People should be scared of the Lakers, if this is them starting to get it together...I can't imagine the runs they will be on when the key components are healthy. Also the energy that Meeks and Hill bring off the bench is amazing. Those guys need more PT.

Tmuston Beltics
12-16-2012, 11:48 PM
they win 20 be4 they lose 20.

they 10-14 now.


so you say they'll go 10-5(max loses they can afford) for their next 15 games? They'd have to have .666 or better for the next 15 games. Don't think so.

TheeBeast
12-16-2012, 11:52 PM
i feel that won't be enough to get 8 seed in the west.
would you bet on that?

KG215
12-17-2012, 12:56 AM
People should be scared of the Lakers, if this is them starting to get it together...I can't imagine the runs they will be on when the key components are healthy. Also the energy that Meeks and Hill bring off the bench is amazing. Those guys need more PT.
Some Lakers fans were saying the same type things after they hung 120ish on the Nuggets a few weeks ago and seemingly every role player had a nice game.

When I saw their schedule after their loss to the Knicks, I thought there was a very real possibility they'd win three in a row. The Wizards may be the worst team in the NBA and the 76ers have been really average this year, and tonight they didn't have their best player. Not saying Holiday would've made a difference but they beat an already average team without their best player. And their next game is at home against the Bobcats who are looking a lot more like the 7-win Bobcats from last year.

You could be right, though. This could be the start of something. But I'd like to see them string together 5-7 wins in a row with some wins over good or even decent teams.

nashwade
12-17-2012, 01:01 AM
I didn't read the entire article but Yahoo headlines say Kobe and Howard have to play 40+ minutes to get a win over Philly

talkingconch
12-17-2012, 03:27 AM
I didn't read the entire article but Yahoo headlines say Kobe and Howard have to play 40+ minutes to get a win over Philly
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