4th quarter Clutch scoring 2012-13

[28renyoy]

Stats are per 48 minutes

Durant 41.3 ppg 62 FG% 38 3P% 91 FT% 77.8 TS%
LeBron 26.1 ppg 52 FG% 25 3P% 69 FT% 60.2 TS%
Kobe 30.2 ppg 30 FG% 29 3P% 71 FT% 44.6 TS%
Melo 24.5 ppg 38 FG% 33 3P% 67 FT% 45.6 TS%

[Redoks]

Stats are per 48 minutes

Durant 41.3 ppg 62 FG% 38 3P% 91 FT% 77.8 TS%
LeBron 26.1 ppg 52 FG% 25 3P% 69 FT% 60.2 TS%
Kobe 30.2 ppg 30 FG% 29 3P% 71 FT% 44.6 TS%
Melo 24.5 ppg 38 FG% 33 3P% 67 FT% 45.6 TS%

:lebronamazed: :kobe:

[Pushxx]

Let's not forget Kobe has a dysfunctional supporting cast right now.

[Trentknicks]

No wonder why your in the red. Time to log off, get some fresh air and vitamin D and realise Durant doesn't know or love you. Thread/.

[jstern]

You should post a link.

[weavaliciousnes]

O.J. Mayo 39.5 ppg 51%fg

[pauk]

Fixed:

Lebron - 30.4 ppg, 11.3 rpg, 10.6 apg @ 52% fg, 25% 3pt, 69% ft
Durant - 41.3 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 3.0 apg @ 62% fg, 38% 3pt, 91% ft
Kobe - 30.2 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 4.6 apg @ 30% fg, 29% 3pt, 71% ft
Carmelo - 24.5 ppg, 15.8 rpg, 0.0 apg @ 38% fg, 33% 3pt, 67% ft
(no order)

http://www.nba.com/advancedstats

Scoring wise Durant is the man, but overall offensively i have to go with Lebron, thats a Big-O triple double right there, with that pile of assists combined with those points its just a brutal amount of offensive accountability compared to anybody else...

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Bron and Durant :eek: The best on this planet. :applause:

[Legends66NBA7]

What's the criteria for the clutch stats ?

[pauk]

What's the criteria for the clutch stats ?

For NBA.com's advancedstats "clutch stats" is:

"Performance under 5 minutes to go in the 4th quarter or OT with neither team ahead of more than 5 points"

[sipitri]

What's the criteria for the clutch stats ?
I think 5 or less minutes to go in the 4th and 5 or less points of difference between the two teams.

[Legends66NBA7]

Alright, thanks.

Just saying 4th quarter itself is misleading. Incase anybody wanted to know the 4th quarter numbers altogether for the above 4 players:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01/shooting/2013/

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duranke01/shooting/2013/

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/anthoca01/shooting/2013/

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bryanko01/shooting/2013/

That's a little more revealing of particular scenarios in the 4th.

[pauk]

Anyways, im sure there might be some guy/guys that average even more PPG in this department... gona take a look... (last year it was Kyrie Irving with a whooping 50 ppg)

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

O.J. Mayo 39.5 ppg 51%fg

More clutch than Kobe :eek:

[pauk]

O.J. Mayo 39.5 ppg 51%fg

Any source to that? All i found was:

http://www.nba.com/advancedstats/player.html#O.J.-Mayo|201564;year=201213;season=r;splitType=clutch; splitValue=all

30.7 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 1.8 apg @ 51% fg, 55% 3pt, 71% ft

Which is not so bad either

[BuffaloBill]

Stats are per 48 minutes

Durant 41.3 ppg 62 FG% 38 3P% 91 FT% 77.8 TS%
LeBron 26.1 ppg 52 FG% 25 3P% 69 FT% 60.2 TS%
Kobe 30.2 ppg 30 FG% 29 3P% 71 FT% 44.6 TS%
Melo 24.5 ppg 38 FG% 33 3P% 67 FT% 45.6 TS%


Kevin Durant's percentages are unreal.

[Sarcastic]

Melo is barely playing in the 4th quarter of games, because he is destroying everyone in the 1st.

[j3lademaster]

Let's not forget Kobe has a dysfunctional supporting cast right now.

Doesn't stop Kobe from putting up beast scoring stats normally :confusedshrug:

[Droid101]

Melo is barely playing in the 4th quarter of games, because he is destroying everyone in the 1st.
So... his percentages should be really high right? Since he only has a small sample size, right? Right?

[IGotACoolStory]

O.J. Mayo 39.5 ppg 51%fg

Da real mamba.

[TheBigVeto]

More clutch than Kobe :eek:

To be fair Kobe's 'clutch' reputation has always been overrated. He was never clutch.

[dunksby]

KD beastin in the clutch is nothing new though.

[Baller1986]

For NBA.com's advancedstats "clutch stats" is:

"Performance under 5 minutes to go in the 4th quarter or OT with neither team ahead of more than 5 points"


Can you please update the thread mr. Pauk???

[TylerOO]

As of today

Durant- 35/84 41.7%
LeBron- 42/94 44.7%
Kobe- 37/88 42.0%
Kyrie- 43/90 47.8%
Wade- 29/58 50.0%
Pierce- 33/99 33.3% (Yikes)

These are all last five minutes of game within 5 points..

However in the final minute of a game within 5 points

Kyrie is shooting 16-27 which is about 60%

[Graviton]

As of today

Durant- 35/84 41.7%
LeBron- 42/94 44.7%
Kobe- 37/88 42.0%
Kyrie- 43/90 47.8%
Wade- 29/58 50.0%
Pierce- 33/99 33.3% (Yikes)

These are all last five minutes of game within 5 points..

However in the final minute of a game within 5 points

Kyrie is shooting 16-27 which is about 60%
What are Westbrook, Paul, Deron and Parker's numbers?

[TylerOO]

Found a better site. I'll do Kobe-LeBron-Durant cause thats all everyone really cares about :lol

These are per 48 min. 5 points or less final 5 minutes

Kobe---13.9/34.2 40.6% 44.4 PPG/5.9 APG
LeBron-12.0/26.0 46.2% 34 PPG/15 APG
Durant- 13.7/32.5 42.0% 53.7 PPG/3.8 APG

It also says Durant would attempt 26 FT per game :lol

[TylerOO]

What are Westbrook, Paul, Deron and Parker's numbers?


Westbrook-- 8.0/23.1 34.7% 31.1 PPG/5.6 APG
Paul--------- 11.0/25.6 42.9% 48.3 PPG/8.1 APG (27.1 FTA lol)
Deron------- 3.5/15.9 22.0% 21.3 PPG/3.9 APG
Parker------ 12.9/25.9 50.0% 32.1 PPG/7.1 APG

[no pun intended]

Any have Joe Johnson's stats? The man is a clutch beast.

Bellinelli too.

[Mr. Jabbar]

Watching games to determine good 4th quarter performers never fails, kobe is hands down twice the clutch player lebron was/is/will ever be. Lebron fanatics love twisting statistics and boxscores to fit their agenda. Luckily, kobe fans can resort to basic math: 5>0.5

[Graviton]

Westbrook-- 8.0/23.1 34.7% 31.1 PPG/5.6 APG
Paul--------- 11.0/25.6 42.9% 48.3 PPG/8.1 APG (27.1 FTA lol)
Deron------- 3.5/15.9 22.0% 21.3 PPG/3.9 APG
Parker------ 12.9/25.9 50.0% 32.1 PPG/7.1 APG
Yea Paul always does look for the foul, learned it from his master Billups. :oldlol:

Flop City gonna flop.

[TylerOO]

Any have Joe Johnson's stats? The man is a clutch beast.

Bellinelli too.

Johnson--- 7.1/17.2 41.3% 23.9 PPG/2.6 APG

Joe Johnson is 3-3 though in the final 10 seconds of a 2 point or less game. He is also 7-8 in final 30 seconds of 2 point of less game. The lower the time the more clutch.

Website didn't have Belli listed for some reason, however he is 3-6 in final 10 seconds of a 2 point or less game.

[pauk]

Watching games to determine good 4th quarter performers never fails, kobe is hands down twice the clutch player lebron was/is/will ever be. Lebron fanatics love twisting statistics and boxscores to fit their agenda. Luckily, kobe fans can resort to basic math: 5>0.5

Facts (all of them in the clutch department) say otherwise unfortunately... wish to see some examples?

[no pun intended]

Johnson--- 7.1/17.2 41.3% 23.9 PPG/2.6 APG

Joe Johnson is 3-3 though in the final 10 seconds of a 2 point or less game. He is also 7-8 in final 30 seconds of 2 point of less game. The lower the time the more clutch.

Website didn't have Belli listed for some reason, however he is 3-6 in final 10 seconds of a 2 point or less game.
Ya, Bellinelli was a stretch because I've noticed that he's been making a lot of gamewinners this year. As for Joe, 7 for 8? Damnnn.

[Dave3]

Looks like per 36 ninutes in the clutch is what NBA.com uses -

LeBron - 28.5/11.7/11.2 on 46/29/76 (FG% and 3FG% both dip 10%)

Durant - 39.7/5.3/2.8 on 40/32/91 (FG% and 3FG% also dip 10%, but pp36 jumps 13 pp36 :eek: )

Kobe - 37.6/7.4/4.2 on 45/33/88 (pp36 jumps 12 with almost no dip in any %)

Melo - 27.9/8.5/0 (yes 0) on 37/29/89 (no pp36 change, rebounding increases, but percentages dip)

Kyrie - 41.3/4.6/4.3 on 48/32/79 (even beats Durant, almost increasing 20 pp36, but slight blemish with TOs going up to 7.3)

Wade - 28.5/7/4.3 on 50/0/58 (increase in pp36 without loss in FG%, but poor 3FG% and FT%)

Overall it looks like reports of Kyrie's clutch haven't been in the least bit exaggerated. He goes from 23.6 pp36 to 41.3, an 18 pp36 increase - all without losing efficiency. His assists do decrease a bit (while his TOs go up) reflecting his tendency to go into scoring mode in close games.

Durant also increases in volume a ridiculous amount but at the cost of efficiency.

LeBron loses both volume and efficiency (though FT% stays exactly the same, which is contradicting many criticisms against him missing clutch free throws) but does somewhat make them up averaging 12 and 11 on rebounds and assists, respectively.

Melo seems to be a lot less clutch than he used to be, with dips across the board and that 0 ap36 is slightly hilarious. He hasn't gotten a single assist in all his clutch minutes this season (a total of 89 minutes - almost 2 full games). :oldlol:

Old man Kobe is also performing better than anyone not named Kyrie, increasing volume without any dips in efficiency.

Finally Wade increases both pp36 and FG%, but suffers with FT% significantly, dropping 20%, confirming a lot of complaints about him missing late free throws.

[TylerOO]

Looks like per 36 in the clutch is what NBA.com uses -

LeBron - 28.5/11.7/11.2 on 46/29/76 (FG% and 3FG% both dip 10%)

Durant - 39.7/5.3/2.8 on 40/32/91 (FG% and 3FG% also dip 10%, but pp36 jumps 13 pp36 :eek: )

Kobe - 37.6/7.4/4.2 on 45/33/88 (ppg jumps 12 with almost no dip in any %)

Melo - 27.9/8.5/0 (yes 0) on 37/29/89 (no pp36 change, rebounding increases, but percentages dip)

Kyrie - 41.3/4.6/4.3 on 48/32/79 (even beats Durant, almost increasing 20 pp36, but slight blemish with TOs going up to 7.3)

Wade - 28.5/7/4.3 on 50/0/58 (increase in pp36 without loss in FG%, but poor 3FG% and FT%)

Overall it looks like reports of Kyrie's clutch haven't been in the least bit exaggerated. He goes from 23.6 pp36 to 41.3, an 18 pp36 increase - all without losing efficiency. His assists do decrease a bit (while his TOs go up) reflecting his tendency to go into scoring mode in close games.

Durant also increases in volume a ridiculous amount but at the cost of efficiency.

LeBron loses both volume and efficiency (though FT% stays exactly the same, which is contradicting many criticisms against him missing clutch free throws) but does somewhat make them up averaging 12 and 11 on rebounds and assists, respectively.

Melo seems to be a lot less clutch than he used to be, with dips across the board and that 0 ap36 is slightly hilarious. He hasn't gotten a single assist in all his clutch minutes this season (a total of 89 minutes - almost 2 full games). :oldlol:

Old man Kobe is also performing better than anyone not named Kyrie, increasing volume without any dips in efficiency.

Finally Wade increases both pp36 and FG%, but suffers with FT% significantly, dropping 20%, confirming a lot of complaints about him missing late free throws.

Durants PPg skyrockets because of his FTA. His and CP3's are ridiculously high

[Dave3]

Durants PPg skyrockets because of his FTA. His and CP3's are ridiculously high
Correct. Shoots 20.2 FT/36 minutes of clutch. Hot damn. Twice LeBron.

I was just giving a general overview with a couple general summaries.

I could've gone into a lot more detail with turnovers, source of points, advanced stats etc. but then the post would have been too long winded lol.

[dunksby]

Durants PPg skyrockets because of his FTA. His and CP3's are ridiculously high
Which he shoots 91%, making him the most effective player in the clutch.

[cotdt]

So basically this season, Kyrie is #1 clutch and Kobe #2. Not bad for a rookie and a 34 year old.

[Greg Oden 50]

:lol
KD beastin in the clutch is nothing new though.

U SEEMS FORGOT HE GETS MANY HELPS FROM REFS :no:
EVERYTIMES HE MISS A SHOTS,AND REFS CALL A FOUL & GET HIM TO THE FREE THROW LINE :facepalm

HE IS THE MOST OVERRATED SCORING TITLE EVER :banana:

[tmacattack33]

Looks like per 36 ninutes in the clutch is what NBA.com uses -

LeBron - 28.5/11.7/11.2 on 46/29/76 (FG% and 3FG% both dip 10%)

Durant - 39.7/5.3/2.8 on 40/32/91 (FG% and 3FG% also dip 10%, but pp36 jumps 13 pp36 :eek: )

Kobe - 37.6/7.4/4.2 on 45/33/88 (pp36 jumps 12 with almost no dip in any %)

Melo - 27.9/8.5/0 (yes 0) on 37/29/89 (no pp36 change, rebounding increases, but percentages dip)

Kyrie - 41.3/4.6/4.3 on 48/32/79 (even beats Durant, almost increasing 20 pp36, but slight blemish with TOs going up to 7.3)

Wade - 28.5/7/4.3 on 50/0/58 (increase in pp36 without loss in FG%, but poor 3FG% and FT%)

Overall it looks like reports of Kyrie's clutch haven't been in the least bit exaggerated. He goes from 23.6 pp36 to 41.3, an 18 pp36 increase - all without losing efficiency. His assists do decrease a bit (while his TOs go up) reflecting his tendency to go into scoring mode in close games.

Durant also increases in volume a ridiculous amount but at the cost of efficiency.

LeBron loses both volume and efficiency (though FT% stays exactly the same, which is contradicting many criticisms against him missing clutch free throws) but does somewhat make them up averaging 12 and 11 on rebounds and assists, respectively.

Melo seems to be a lot less clutch than he used to be, with dips across the board and that 0 ap36 is slightly hilarious. He hasn't gotten a single assist in all his clutch minutes this season (a total of 89 minutes - almost 2 full games). :oldlol:

Old man Kobe is also performing better than anyone not named Kyrie, increasing volume without any dips in efficiency.

Finally Wade increases both pp36 and FG%, but suffers with FT% significantly, dropping 20%, confirming a lot of complaints about him missing late free throws.

The dude puts up 12 reb and 11 assists per 36 and it "somewhat" makes up for it?

:roll:

12 reb and 11 assists probably both lead the league in this, or close to it.

[tmacattack33]

Looks like per 36 ninutes in the clutch is what NBA.com uses -

LeBron - 28.5/11.7/11.2 on 46/29/76 (FG% and 3FG% both dip 10%)

Durant - 39.7/5.3/2.8 on 40/32/91 (FG% and 3FG% also dip 10%, but pp36 jumps 13 pp36 :eek: )

Kobe - 37.6/7.4/4.2 on 45/33/88 (pp36 jumps 12 with almost no dip in any %)

Melo - 27.9/8.5/0 (yes 0) on 37/29/89 (no pp36 change, rebounding increases, but percentages dip)

Kyrie - 41.3/4.6/4.3 on 48/32/79 (even beats Durant, almost increasing 20 pp36, but slight blemish with TOs going up to 7.3)

Wade - 28.5/7/4.3 on 50/0/58 (increase in pp36 without loss in FG%, but poor 3FG% and FT%)

Overall it looks like reports of Kyrie's clutch haven't been in the least bit exaggerated. He goes from 23.6 pp36 to 41.3, an 18 pp36 increase - all without losing efficiency. His assists do decrease a bit (while his TOs go up) reflecting his tendency to go into scoring mode in close games.

Durant also increases in volume a ridiculous amount but at the cost of efficiency.

LeBron loses both volume and efficiency (though FT% stays exactly the same, which is contradicting many criticisms against him missing clutch free throws) but does somewhat make them up averaging 12 and 11 on rebounds and assists, respectively.

Melo seems to be a lot less clutch than he used to be, with dips across the board and that 0 ap36 is slightly hilarious. He hasn't gotten a single assist in all his clutch minutes this season (a total of 89 minutes - almost 2 full games). :oldlol:

Old man Kobe is also performing better than anyone not named Kyrie, increasing volume without any dips in efficiency.

Finally Wade increases both pp36 and FG%, but suffers with FT% significantly, dropping 20%, confirming a lot of complaints about him missing late free throws.

I have no clue where you are getting your stats...

but FG% for Kobe is 42, not 45.

Wade's PP36 is also 19.5, not 28 as you said it is :wtf:

Kobe's assists are at 3, not 4.2

There is also no mention of turnovers. Lebron is averaging 2 turnovers per 36...meanwhile Kyrie Irving is averaging 7 per 36. And Durant is at about 4.5. That's kinda like a big deal.



I'll be back later with the real numbers. The page at nba.com i'm looking at doesn't calculate those numbers per 36, so i had to do the math by myself. And I didn't calculate everything right now, i just posted what jumped out to me as wrong from eyeballing it. I"m sure you also messed some other stuff up.

[Dave3]

I have no clue where you are getting your stats...

but FG% for Kobe is 42, not 45.

Wade's PP36 is also 19.5, not 28 as you said it is :wtf:

Kobe's assists are at 3, not 4.2

There is also no mention of turnovers. Lebron is averaging 2 turnovers per 36...meanwhile Kyrie Irving is averaging 7 per 36. And Durant is at about 4.5. That's kinda like a big deal.



I'll be back later with the real numbers. The page at nba.com i'm looking at doesn't calculate those numbers per 36, so i had to do the math by myself. And I didn't calculate everything right now, i just posted what jumped out to me as wrong from eyeballing it. I"m sure you also messed some other stuff up.
The numbers are straight from NBA.com "in the clutch" stats.

Right here: http://www.nba.com/advancedstats/player.html#Kobe-Bryant|977;year=201213;season=r;splitType=clutch;s plitValue=all

The stats are exactly what I put.

[Dave3]

The dude puts up 12 reb and 11 assists per 36 and it "somewhat" makes up for it?

:roll:

12 reb and 11 assists probably both lead the league in this, or close to it.
Yeah, because in close games, scoring and efficiency is more important than rebounding. If you're shooting 10% less from the field and from 3, rebounding more and getting more assists isn't alone enough to fully compensate for that.


LeBron is a guy that in 2010 averaged 50 pp36 on 49% and 42 pp36 on 56% in 2009 in the clutch. 29 on 46% is well below his standards, especially on a season where he's got a career high in FG%.

[Nash]

Found a better site. I'll do Kobe-LeBron-Durant cause thats all everyone really cares about :lol

These are per 48 min. 5 points or less final 5 minutes

Kobe---13.9/34.2 40.6% 44.4 PPG/5.9 APG
LeBron-12.0/26.0 46.2% 34 PPG/15 APG
Durant- 13.7/32.5 42.0% 53.7 PPG/3.8 APG

It also says Durant would attempt 26 FT per game :lol
:lebronamazed:

[chazzy]

LeBron is a guy that in 2010 averaged 50 pp36 on 49% and 42 pp36 on 56% in 2009 in the clutch. 29 on 46% is well below his standards, especially on a season where he's got a career high in FG%.
Are those years from 82 games? They calculate per48

[Dave3]

Are those years from 82 games? They calculate per48
Those years are from 82games yeah, but I know they calculate per 48. The numbers per 48 for LeBron are 66 pp48 and 56 pp48 - which is 50 and 42 per 36.

[NumberSix]

Fixed:

Lebron - 30.4 ppg, 11.3 rpg, 10.6 apg @ 52% fg, 25% 3pt, 69% ft
Durant - 41.3 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 3.0 apg @ 62% fg, 38% 3pt, 91% ft
Kobe - 30.2 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 4.6 apg @ 30% fg, 29% 3pt, 71% ft
Carmelo - 24.5 ppg, 15.8 rpg, 0.0 apg @ 38% fg, 33% 3pt, 67% ft
(no order)

http://www.nba.com/advancedstats

Scoring wise Durant is the man, but overall offensively i have to go with Lebron, thats a Big-O triple double right there, with that pile of assists combined with those points its just a brutal amount of offensive accountability compared to anybody else...how many of those points are from phantom call free throws?

[chazzy]

Those years are from 82games yeah, but I know they calculate per 48. The numbers per 48 for LeBron are 66 pp48 and 56 pp48 - which is 50 and 42 per 36.
Ohh ok. Yeah he was more aggressive scoring late back then, but playing with guys like Wade Bosh and Allen takes some of the scoring burden from him.

[Dave3]

Ohh ok. Yeah he was more aggressive scoring late back then, but playing with guys like Wade Bosh and Allen takes some of the scoring burden from him.
Which is why Cleveland LeBron will always be my favourite. He shows sparks in Miami, but most people enjoy seeing a guy go and get it himself sometimes. Back in Cleveland he led 4th quarter comebacks like it was scripted.

[tmacattack33]

The numbers are straight from NBA.com "in the clutch" stats.

Right here: http://www.nba.com/advancedstats/player.html#Kobe-Bryant|977;year=201213;season=r;splitType=clutch;s plitValue=all

The stats are exactly what I put.

I'm looking at those, and NBA.COM's league stats...it appears that those (the ones in the player's profile) aren't fully updated.

I'll post the updated ones soon...nba.com only lists the updated TOTALS for some reason :confusedshrug: . So i have to do some math...and i dont have the time right now.