More strange coincidences from Sandy Hook

[IamRAMBO24]

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This is some weird stuff. Check out this movie review. (http://aslashabove.com/2012/07/20/sandy-hook-lingerie-party-massacre-2000-review/) Now consider the amount of coincidences relating to all the major events that have happened recently. Keep in mind this movie was made about a decade ago and someone just so happens to do a review on it on the day of the Aurora massacre. Too weird. Not proclaiming anything other than the weirdness factor, but it sure caught my attention.


1 - In the movie "The Dark Knight Rises" there is a STRIKE in a district called SANDY HOOK


2 - In the premiere of the movie "The Dark Knight Rises", on July 20, 2012, there was a massacre in a theater in Aurora, Colorado.


3 - In the same day, July 20, 2012, someone posted a review about a horror movie called SANDY HOOK Lingerie Party Massacre in a blog, and the review starts with the following: "So here we have Sandy Hook Lingerie Party Massacre. Let’s say that again, SANDY HOOK LINGERIE PARTY MASSACRE! What do you think of when you see that combination of words? What’s in a title anyway? Does it have a cryptic meaning? Who is Sandy Hook? What on earth am I writing about?"

4 - In the horror movie in question, SANDY HOOK Lingerie Party Massacre, from the year 2000, the plot says there is a serial killer who strikes AFTER hurricanes.


5 - There was a very strong hurricane in November 2012, called Hurricane SANDY, that affected the whole Northeast of the USA, including both the town of Sandy Hook, in New Jersey (where the horror movie is supposed to take place) and the village of Sandy Hook, in Newtown, Connecticut.


6 - Less than one month and a half AFTER Hurricane Sandy, a serial killer enters SANDY HOOK Elementary School, in the village of SANDY HOOK, in Newtown, Connecticut, and kills dozens of little kids in a horrible massacre

[D-Rose]

Eh, I don't think so. Big coincidence.

[Patrick Chewing]

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[SourPatchKids]

I think I see your point...

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http://images.wikia.com/spongebob/images/6/65/Sandy-cheeks-spongebob.jpg


It's all her fault ain't it?

[LBJMVP]

Eh, I don't think so. Big coincidence.


thats a pretty big coincidence.... someone rights an article on a movie with sandy hook in the title and comments about the massacre being in the title. and the movie has a killer that attacks after hurricanes


and in real life, after hurricane sandy blows over and the media stops commenting on it... a killer massacres people in sandy hook?

and there was a reference to sandy hook in a movie that happened to have a massacre of its own.

also the review says nothing about a hurricane... just a storm.


kinda weird.


but then again people make up alot of bullshit when it comes to conspiracies.

[SourPatchKids]

According to IMDB, it is one of the worst movies ever

[IamRAMBO24]

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UrcLJTWgHVw/UM-SeHpL1nI/AAAAAAAAFFA/24jfOshTwXs/s640/aurora_2.jpg
http://static.infowars.com/slideshow/sandyhook.jpg

Both images from the Dark Knight Rises movie.

[Sarcastic]

What does a lingerie party have to do with an elementary school?

[LBJMVP]

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UrcLJTWgHVw/UM-SeHpL1nI/AAAAAAAAFFA/24jfOshTwXs/s640/aurora_2.jpg
http://static.infowars.com/slideshow/sandyhook.jpg

Both images from the Dark Knight Rises movie.


yah, thats actually pretty sketchy.

what are the chances that two cities that had massacres would be referenced in the movie.

one of which happened during a showing of said movie.

[IamRAMBO24]

yah, thats actually pretty sketchy.

what are the chances that two cities that had massacres would be referenced in the movie.

one of which happened during a showing of said movie.

1 in a million.

[LBJMVP]

What does a lingerie party have to do with an elementary school?

"So here we have Sandy Hook Lingerie Party Massacre. Let

[miller-time]

Both images from the Dark Knight Rises movie.

Yes it is almost like they used names of real towns for names of fake ones. Could you imagine if there was a shooting in a town called Springfield!? The Simpsons predicted it!

[SourPatchKids]

Judgement shall be passed soon.

[Patrick Chewing]

Yes it is almost like they used names of real towns for names of fake ones. Could you imagine if there was a shooting in a town called Springfield!? The Simpsons predicted it!


I once saw a movie where a guy got shot in New York. Since then, a ton of people have been shot in New York. Coincidence??? I think not!!


This is right in front of our eyes, people! The Earth is square and Illuminati lives!!!

[IamRAMBO24]

Yes it is almost like they used names of real towns for names of fake ones. Could you imagine if there was a shooting in a town called Springfield!? The Simpsons predicted it!

Stop being so dense.

It is no secret the purpose of the CIA is to pull staged events in foreign countries to carry out an agenda.

What makes you think they can't do the same on our soil to push an agenda ..

That's their job; they destroy foreign countries through covert means. The government obviously has an agenda (aka motive), it is a fact the CIA does this kind of stuff overseas, so why is it so hard to believe they can't do it on american soil .. it is covert; nobody knows about it; they can get away with it; so why is it not plausible they will pull a stunt like this over here.

Stop being so dense.

[miller-time]

Stop being so dense.

It is no secret the purpose of the CIA is to pull staged events in foreign countries to carry out an agenda.

What makes you think they can't do the same on our soil to push an agenda ..

That's their job; they destroy foreign countries through covert means. The government obviously has an agenda (aka motive), it is a fact the CIA does this kind of stuff overseas, so why is it so hard to believe they can't do it on american soil .. it is covert; nobody knows about it; they can get away with it; so why is it not plausible they will pull a stunt like this over here.

Stop being so dense.

Because when the CIA do it overseas they don't ring up the local film studios to put stupid references to their atrocities in their films.

[IamRAMBO24]

Because when the CIA do it overseas they don't ring up the local film studios to put stupid references to their atrocities in their films.

You are f*ckin dense if you don't believe there are coded references in popular movies. The facts are there: there are numerous cryptic references to 9/11 in major movies way before it happened.

But you are dense and is prob incapable of digging a bit deeper in the critical aspect of your brain.

Leave this f*ckin thread alone. Can't us conspiracy nuts have our fun without you **** f*cks raining on the parade. A*shole.

[miller-time]

Leave this f*ckin thread alone. Can't us conspiracy nuts have our fun without you **** f*cks raining on the parade. A*shole.

No because there a people that will read your trash and believe it too. Either you defend your premise or you can **** off.

[LBJMVP]

Yes it is almost like they used names of real towns for names of fake ones. Could you imagine if there was a shooting in a town called Springfield!? The Simpsons predicted it!

yah, but aurora and sandy hook both being used in the movie?

two pretty random cities and both have mass killings in them and one was during a showing of the movie?


it could be a coincidence, but that is one hell of a coincidence.


lets not compare this to seeing a movie where someone gets shot in new york and then people actually get shot in new york... not really close to the same level of coincidence

[IamRAMBO24]

No because there a people that will read your trash and believe it too. Either you defend your premise or you can **** off.

F*ck you Aussie boy.

We're just having fun here exercising a bit of critical thinking. Why do you have to be so serious Aussie boy .. stop raining on the parade. Did Obama elect you as "**** President Loser of the the anti-conspiracy club." What is wrong with a bit of denial and asking questions .. stop being such a close minded queeeer.

[Scoooter]

Creepy.

[Lebowsky]

F*ck you Aussie boy.

We're just having fun here exercising a bit of critical thinking. Why do you have to be so serious Aussie boy .. stop raining on the parade. Did Obama elect you as "**** President Loser of the the anti-conspiracy club." What is wrong with a bit of denial and asking questions .. stop being such a close minded queeeer.

Critical thinking? More like no thinking at all.

[RaininThrees]

Critical thinking? More like no thinking at all.

It's kinda funny that THIS is considered "critical thinking", but those of us who have actually thought about it and (rightly) dismiss it outright are "mindless" "sheep" or whatever descriptor you want to use.

You either believe the conspiracy or are a sucker for it.

Where's my tinfoil?

[IamRAMBO24]

It's kinda funny that THIS is considered "critical thinking", but those of us who have actually thought about it and (rightly) dismiss it outright are "mindless" "sheep" or whatever descriptor you want to use.

You either believe the conspiracy or are a sucker for it.

Where's my tinfoil?

Whatever dumbsh*t. If you can't exercise a bit of denial and critical thinking skills, then you are just stupid wearing that tinfoil hat. Let's see the discrepancies coming out of the media:

Mother being a teacher and he shot her and students at the school.
Principle let him in the school because she knew him. Shooter shot his way in.
He shot children with a rifle but the rifle is found in car.
He shot children with hand guns but medical examiner says they were shot with rifle.
Brother was with the shooter. Brother was not with the shooter.
Brother was the shooter. Shooter had brothers ID
Mother is a gun toting lady.
Mother and son go and shoot gun a practice range often. ATF say no evidence of shooting range practice.
Mother was a teacher, mother was a substitute teacher, mother was a teacher

[miller-time]

If you can't exercise a bit of denial and critical thinking skills, then you are just stupid wearing that tinfoil hat. Let's see the discrepancies coming out of the media

The discrepancies happen because the media are competing with each other to put the story out first. It is a lack of investigative journalism, and too much headline grabbing.

[IamRAMBO24]

The discrepancies happen because the media are competing with each other to put the story out first. It is a lack of investigative journalism, and too much headline grabbing.

Again, your lack of knowledge is simply astounding. You don't know anything about reporting: reporters can only relay what is being told to them by the FBI, Police, and other agencies that decides to release the information.

There seems to be a deliberate attempt of misinformation. The idea is if you bombard the public with contradictory information after another, it will be harder to pin point what is factual since there are so many inconsistencies.

For example, one of the reports reported on a 2nd gunman, but since all reports are now being viewed as "rushed journalism," the initial report, whether factual or not, will now be discounted because of all the misreporting.

Usually incidents this major only has one report and most major news station would cite the official story from other news organization. So the style of reporting itself is another anamoly and something worth looking into a bit deeper.

But you are too dense, your brain might end up frying itself.

[Go Getter]

Again, your lack of knowledge is simply astounding. You don't know anything about reporting: reporters can only relay what is being told to them by the FBI, Police, and other agencies that decides to release the information.

There seems to be a deliberate attempt of misinformation. The idea is if you bombard the public with contradictory information after another, it will be harder to pin point what is factual since there are so many inconsistencies.

For example, one of the reports reported on a 2nd gunman, but since all reports are now being viewed as "rushed journalism," the initial report, whether factual or not, will now be discounted because of all the misreporting.

Usually incidents this major only has one report and most major news station would cite the official story from other news organization. So the style of reporting itself is another anamoly and something worth looking into a bit deeper.

But you are too dense, your brain might end up frying itself.


Stopped reading in the first paragraph when it became obvious dude is a quack....lol, stfu sparky and calm down while you're at it.

[ace23]

What Does It All Mean
Just the killer ****ing with people in an attempt to bring even more attention to the mass murder.

Either that or it's all just a coincidence; nothing to see here.

[IamRAMBO24]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0cV65-Hjnc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0cV65-Hjnc)

So this teacher was reading to the kids during the shooting. This is so stupid. Why the f*ck would you read a book, y'know make any noise, when there was a gunmen that could possibly go into your classroom and kill everybody in there .. dude if I hear gun shots, I'm curling up in a corner being as quiet as possible. Why the hell would I want to make any noise (especially reading to 20 or more kids in a loud tone) and alert him towards my way.

Child actors:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEUol3q1gb8

These kids are repeating what they have been told to repeat. You can notice the lack of emotion and how they would pause up to remember a line. If a situation is dramatic, usually the victims would tear up just talking about it, and if they deal with the situation in a different way, you can see the emotions in their eyes regardless.

The eyes tell the story.

Here is another fake stupid girl trying to act like she was there:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqTWxYRUuPw

So fake.

[IamRAMBO24]

The illuminati created a hurricane??
But they probably had to make other as well to make sure they get the letter 'S'

Timing hurricanes with movie release dates and with massacres while anonymously writing weird movie revies requires not only an ingenious sense of humor but major project managing skills as well :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

I'd join. pm me.

The government has a technology to control the weather: HARP.

[DropStep]

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You gotta be trolling right?

[IamRAMBO24]

This is what real emotions look like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Kz8mvoPjLA

Here is another video of a girl who looks perfectly calm but you can tell in her eyes she went through some trauma. Read the eyes. They tell the story:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kaoVEksAeo

The fact those kids in the Sandy Hook shooting, who should be more susceptible to drama, shows no trauma indicates they were probably not there at the shooting to begin with. If they were, at least one of them would of shown some real emotions, not act like they are reading lines from a script.

[SourPatchKids]

yah, but aurora and sandy hook both being used in the movie?

two pretty random cities and both have mass killings in them and one was during a showing of the movie?


it could be a coincidence, but that is one hell of a coincidence.


lets not compare this to seeing a movie where someone gets shot in new york and then people actually get shot in new york... not really close to the same level of coincidence
Yeah this is hard to dismiss as coincidental.

[IamRAMBO24]

Same girl, but this time she changes up her narrative and describes a different scenario:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czT56oHZnx0

These people are so stupid; why didn't they beat the sh*t out of this girl so they could get some emotions out of her before they put her on camera? Rub some onions in here eyes or something because this girl obviously did not go through any trauma and is only making them look like fools by acting so oblivious. It looks like she just came from a Hannah Montana concert and not from a shooting where 27 people died.

[IamRAMBO24]

600 kids and not one video of any true emotions from kids or adults. Naysayers prove to me I am a nutcase.

Give me one video, just one, of someone actually going through a traumatic ordeal. 27 people dead. Someone's gotta f*ckin cry right? And no I'm not talking about the parents who weren't there on the scene and were afraid their child might've of been lost.

Strange isn't it .. the people NOT involved in the incident are the ones showing the most emotions.

[n00bie]

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[IamRAMBO24]

I knew one can make clouds disappear but I wasn't aware one can make hurricanes too



Stop acting stupid like you know every government secret there is to know out there. If you don't know everything, then stfu and start questioning. Acting like you know it and taking a position this or that cannot happen when you don't truly know it all is a false premise.

At least I'm asking questions because I am claiming I don't know anything. You gotta be honest dude.

[IamRAMBO24]

http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/65011_10200209951518279_479830515_n.jpg

Delete that. You're ruining my credibility. That is a picture of her sister, who strangely is wearing the same outfit she was in, but regardless, it's not the same girl.

[TheSilentKiller]

Again, your lack of knowledge is simply astounding. You don't know anything about reporting: reporters can only relay what is being told to them by the FBI, Police, and other agencies that decides to release the information.

There seems to be a deliberate attempt of misinformation. The idea is if you bombard the public with contradictory information after another, it will be harder to pin point what is factual since there are so many inconsistencies.

For example, one of the reports reported on a 2nd gunman, but since all reports are now being viewed as "rushed journalism," the initial report, whether factual or not, will now be discounted because of all the misreporting.

Usually incidents this major only has one report and most major news station would cite the official story from other news organization. So the style of reporting itself is another anamoly and something worth looking into a bit deeper.

But you are too dense, your brain might end up frying itself.
Lol wut? Stopped reading there too.

[timlush]

Haven't followed this story very closely, was there anyone who was shot but didn't die?

[TheSilentKiller]

Same girl, but this time she changes up her narrative and describes a different scenario:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czT56oHZnx0

These people are so stupid; why didn't they beat the sh*t out of this girl so they could get some emotions out of her before they put her on camera? Rub some onions in here eyes or something because this girl obviously did not go through any trauma and is only making them look like fools by acting so oblivious. It looks like she just came from a Hannah Montana concert and not from a shooting where 27 people died.
You are extremely insensitive. People grieve in different ways. If I lost a bunch of friends/family, I wouldn't know what the **** to do. Add in a bunch of reporters and cameras and I would be confused as all hell. People don't like others to know they are hurting and I am sure theses little kids are being told to put on a brave face for the interviews.

[TheSilentKiller]

Haven't followed this story very closely, was there anyone who was shot but didn't die?
Yes, even several children.

[TheSilentKiller]

Stop acting stupid like you know every government secret there is to know out there. If you don't know everything, then stfu and start questioning. Acting like you know it and taking a position this or that cannot happen when you don't truly know it all is a false premise.

At least I'm asking questions because I am claiming I don't know anything. You gotta be honest dude.
You are not acting like you know nothing. In fact, you are calling other people dense for not agreeing with you. Make your point without attacking other people and with substantial evidence and then maybe, maybe, people will listen to you.

[IamRAMBO24]

You are extremely insensitive. People grieve in different ways. If I lost a bunch of friends/family, I wouldn't know what the **** to do. Add in a bunch of reporters and cameras and I would be confused as all hell. People don't like others to know they are hurting and I am sure theses little kids are being told to put on a brave face for the interviews.

You can't control emotions like that homie, especially little children. If they have been through a trauma, it will show it in their eyes when they talk about it.

I posted that vid of that one girl who is a lot older and stronger than these kids but you can still tell in her eyes she's been through some rough sh*t.

Maybe a year from now these kids might seem legit, but right after the event and every kid is acting like they are doing a review of the next Disney movie? Please.

600 kids and noone has any proof of someone going through a trauma .. 27 people died. Surely someone is a bit f*cked up.

We have no proof. No dead bodies being carried out; no injuries; no bullet holes; no credible traumatized witnesses, and the only 911 call they released contradicted the events when one of the police officers said, "We must kill Adam" identifying him even before they were on the scene.

Seriously.

You don't find anything suspicious at all?

[TheSilentKiller]

You can't control emotions like that homie, especially little children. If they have been through a trauma, it will show it in their eyes when they talk about it.

I posted that vid of that one girl who is a lot older and stronger than these kids but you can still tell in her eyes she's been through some rough sh*t.

Maybe a year from now these kids might seem legit, but right after the event and every kid is acting like they are doing a review of the next Disney movie? Please.

600 kids and noone has any proof of someone going through a trauma .. 27 people died. Surely someone is a bit f*cked up.
This is not true at all. Some of these kids are still too young to fully comprehend what happened. I was in elementary school when 9/11 happened and people were sad and stuff but nobody actually understood the consequences of it.

I'm not trying to argue whether or not these people are grieving, just that people show it in different ways and oftentimes children don't know what the **** to do in a situation like this. If I was a parent, I would do my best to downplay the situation to protect my kid and help him down the road. I wouldn't be surprised if that is what is going on with several of the kids.

[TheSilentKiller]

You don't find anything suspicious at all?
Once again, not arguing about this, just talking about the emotions of the kids. I haven't read enough about the whole story to start to consider the possibility of something like a government conspiracy.

[n00bie]

Says here that the shooter tried to destroy his computer before he went on the rampage.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2012/12/21/adam_lanza_s_hard_drive_might_be_destroyed_but_we_ can_still_follow_his_electronic.html

Why would he destroy his computer, if he was planning to go out the way he did?

[n00bie]

Also, whatever happened to that 2nd shooter in the woods? I find it odd that the reports were ALL OVER the 2nd incident in the woods. Now they don't even talk about it. Whatever happened to that guy that got arrested?

[miggyme1]

Says here that the shooter tried to destroy his computer before he went on the rampage.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2012/12/21/adam_lanza_s_hard_drive_might_be_destroyed_but_we_ can_still_follow_his_electronic.html

Why would he destroy his computer, if he was planning to go out the way he did?

because he didnt want people to know his true intentions.didnt want people to get any insight into who he really was. wanted to be a mystery....its believable.

i think if i was going to do0 something as catastrophic as he did i think id destroy all my evidence and intentions too.just a thought tho

[IamRAMBO24]

Once again, not arguing about this, just talking about the emotions of the kids. I haven't read enough about the whole story to start to consider the possibility of something like a government conspiracy.

There are no emotions.

That's my main argument; I don't care how strong you are or how you deal with crazy sh*t like this, when people are dying around you left and right, trust me, even the toughest guy in the world will show some sort of emotion.

These kids look like artificial intelligence robots programmed to spit out lines. No emotions: no fear, no sadness, no over-reaction, nothing, nada, etc.

People might deal with their emotions in their own way, but they are still emotions and you can read it in their face.

These kids are emotionless. Watch the videos again. Every kid is like that.

[n00bie]

because he didnt want people to know his true intentions.didnt want people to get any insight into who he really was. wanted to be a mystery....its believable.

i think if i was going to do0 something as catastrophic as he did i think id destroy all my evidence and intentions too.just a thought tho

I don't know. I think it's weird how the media portrays him as some impulsive autistic psycho, who shot up a school because he got into an argument with his mother. It's obvious this guy had a plan.

[IamRAMBO24]

I don't know. I think it's weird how the media portrays him as some impulsive autistic psycho, who shot up a school because he got into an argument with his mother. It's obvious this guy had a plan.

Good point.

Another anamoly. Keep digging homie. Don't let these close minded jerks dissuade you.

It doesn't even fit in the scheme of things:

1. You go crazy.
2. Shoot mommy.
3. Destroy computer before you shoot up kids.
4. Shoot up school.

3 doesn't fit in the narrative.

[miggyme1]

Good point.

Another anamoly. Keep digging homie. Don't let these close minded jerks dissuade you.

It doesn't even fit in the scheme of things:

1. You go crazy.
2. Shoot mommy.
3. Destroy computer before you shoot up kids.
4. Shoot up school.

3 doesn't fit in the narrative.


how doesnt it fit?they never said when he destroyed it.he could have destroyed it the night before or a week before.chill out homie.its really not that serious

what if the government is lying to us and blah blah blah. what the f.u.c.k u gonna do? u gonna be our savior?lol

i think not....lets say u are right.......it is a conspiracy.....nobody is gonna care because everybody has been brainwashed by the media too much to believe such a thing could happen in america...ur fighting a lost cause.give up kid.its over..ur done.

[Jackass18]

People grieve in different ways: http://health.howstuffworks.com/mental-health/coping/why-some-people-dont-grieve.htm

[IamRAMBO24]

how doesnt it fit?they never said when he destroyed it.he could have destroyed it the night before or a week before.chill out homie.its really not that serious

what if the government is lying to us and blah blah blah. what the f.u.c.k u gonna do? u gonna be our savior?lol

i think not....lets say u are right.......it is a conspiracy.....nobody is gonna care because everybody has been brainwashed by the media too much to believe such a thing could happen in america...ur fighting a lost cause.give up kid.its over..ur done.

It doesn't fit because it sounds like he has a plan of surviving all of this: erase all data on computer, kill mommy, steal guns, kill kids .. that's it? If he is erasing treasures of information about him on his hard drive, which indicates a plan of surviving this ordeal, then why didn't he just get in his car and drive somewhere else.

I'm just pointing out another anamoly (which there are too many). Computers have a ton of information in the lives of the person using it, it just sounds like someone would try to destroy it if they were trying to hide that information.

I'm following the motive. Adam Lanza doesn't seem to have much of any motive to ride on.

[IamRAMBO24]

People grieve in different ways: http://health.howstuffworks.com/mental-health/coping/why-some-people-dont-grieve.htm

If everybody grieves differently, then why do all the kids seem to grieve the same?

You would think someone would at least be balling their eyes out over this whole ordeal. This probably the first time I have ever seen a traumatic experience where there are no tears out of fear, sadness, or even strength.

Just very odd. Makes them look like actors.

[miggyme1]

It doesn't fit because it sounds like he has a plan of surviving all of this: erase all data on computer, kill mommy, steal guns, kill kids .. that's it? If he is erasing treasures of information about him on his hard drive, which indicates a plan of surviving this ordeal, then why didn't he just get in his car and drive somewhere else.

I'm just pointing out another anamoly (which there are too many). Computers have a ton of information in the lives of the person using it, it just sounds like someone would try to destroy it if they were trying to hide that information.

I'm following the motive. Adam Lanza doesn't seem to have much of any motive to ride on.


does every action have a motive?nah it doesnt. why cant people accept the fact that there are some very crazy people out here. y do people refuse to acknowledge that? we dont have asylums across this nation just for decoration.lol

y does this kid HAVE TO HAVE A MOTIVE.y?....ive seen simple things set people off.some people dont care if u talk about they momma.....some people if u talk about they momma...they will whoop ya ass.

some people dont mind being short changed a few cents or whateva....theyll tell u keep the change or im fine....some people want every single cent owed and will threaten ya life if they dont get it.

u never know the temper of the beast until the beast is unleashed.thats all im saying.

how we dont know this kid didnt have a history of having bouts of unexplained rage?

[IamRAMBO24]

does every action have a motive?nah it doesnt. why cant people accept the fact that there are some very crazy people out here. y do people refuse to acknowledge that? we dont have asylums across this nation just for decoration.lol

y does this kid HAVE TO HAVE A MOTIVE.y?....ive seen simple things set people off.some people dont care if u talk about they momma.....some people if u talk about they momma...they will whoop ya ass.

some people dont mind being short changed a few cents or whateva....theyll tell u keep the change or im fine....some people want every single cent owed and will threaten ya life if they dont get it.

u never know the temper of the beast until the beast is unleashed.thats all im saying.

how we dont know this kid didnt have a history of having bouts of unexplained rage?

There are no evidence and no motive. Period. None. Nada. Even when they claim his mom is a gun nut, where are the gun licenses, pictures, logs at gun ranges, etc.

Where are the witnesses .. there are over 600 kids and adults in the school at the time, how come we just have a bunch of robotic kids reciting the same lines.

It's so stupid some of you are using the excuse "well not everyone deals with emotions the same way" ... then why the f*ck do all of them deal with it the same way?

[miggyme1]

There are no evidence and no motive. Period. None. Nada. Even when they claim his mom is a gun nut, where are the gun licenses, pictures, logs at gun ranges, etc.

Where are the witnesses .. there are over 600 kids and adults in the school at the time, how come we just have a bunch of robotic kids reciting the same lines.

It's so stupid some of you are using the excuse "well not everyone deals with emotions the same way" ... then why the f*ck do all of them deal with it the same way?


well obviosly u dont believe in a higher power.some things just cant be explained.......like babies being born premature and somehow survive....its not a medical miracle its a blessing.

maybe a higher power was in action last friday that protected the other kids or comforted the kids that were interviewed. making sure they wouldn be traumatized by the event they just witnessed unfold right before their naive eyes. do u comprehend that?

maybe the media didnt want to interview the kids that were freaking out because it would have been to emotional to deal with.who wants to interview a kid balling his or her yes out....shaking...crying....screaming...scared...te rrorized!

i wouldnt and neither would u..so dont lie.

u have a lot of proff to credit your opinion but u have no proof to discredit mine so u basically stuck in the middle.....in order for u to be correct u have to be able to do both..u cant have it just one way man.

im making great valid points and u cant discredit them

ive raised plenty of cousins..nephews and nieces and let me tell u one thing.....its hard for kids that age to lie.everything kids that age see and hear they believe. i know what ur gonna say "exactly thats y the kids were coached and gave the statements".

let me ask u this........school with what 600 students right? y only coach a handful? y not coach at least 20 or 30.

we all know the more people u have the more people will believe you.

ever heard the statement we dont believe u.....u need more people.

y not have 20 or more students coming forward speaking their peace?

600 students and they coach 5?lol

trust me the government aint that stupid if this was a coverup....ud have kids left and right giving their testimony...because u want the people to believe what just unfolded.

how do u explain victor cruz paying homage to one of the victims? lemme guess he is a part time actor when he isnt on the field on sundays?

in order for this to be a CONSPIRACY there cant be any loose ends...everything has to be tied into that conspiracy. it cant be both ways......one lie always lead to another lie and thats kinda how conspiracies are.

when one is disproved another one is created

[IamRAMBO24]

The proof is on your side.

- Show me a shred of evidence; maybe a picture of Adam and his mommy holding guns; maybe a log of their visit at the gun range or even a stash of her weapons at the house.

- Show me the funeral; show me some real tears kids are getting buried in this whole ordeal. If a bunch of kids were really murdered, then where are all the videos of people balling their eyes out? And no I am not talking about the parents who thought their kids were murdered when they came to the school either. That was the only real emotion displayed simply because they did not know what was going on.

There are none. No one is crying. There is one video and it has been proven the person was faking it. Even the President got on stage and joined in on the act.

[nathanjizzle]

the proof op provided of "sandy hook" being written in DKR, is falsified :facepalm

proof 1.- The guy that uploaded that evidence of "sandy hook" showing up on a map in the DKR movie, did not provide a close up shot of the words "sandy hook" in his video, when his pointer showed the magnifying glass sign, all he had to do was click and it would magnify the shot to see better, why didnt he? because it doesnt say sandy hook.

Real screen shot
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/9748/sandyhook1.png
Falsified.
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/3071/sandyhook3.jpg

[nathanjizzle]

every state in the country has a town,neighborhood,school,city name aurora.:roll:


and the movie "sandy hook massacre"
how do you know adam lanza didnt watch this movie and based his actions off this movie? that would be more logical than a Illuminati conspiracy.

[miggyme1]

The proof is on your side.

- Show me a shred of evidence; maybe a picture of Adam and his mommy holding guns; maybe a log of their visit at the gun range or even a stash of her weapons at the house.

- Show me the funeral; show me some real tears kids are getting buried in this whole ordeal. If a bunch of kids were really murdered, then where are all the videos of people balling their eyes out? And no I am not talking about the parents who thought their kids were murdered when they came to the school either. That was the only real emotion displayed simply because they did not know what was going on.

There are none. No one is crying. There is one video and it has been proven the person was faking it. Even the President got on stage and joined in on the act.


ok so what should we do then.its obvious we are being manipulated by the government to believe that this heinous crime actually happened when in reality it didnt.so as americans who know the real truth..what do we do.im asking YOU?

what steps do we need to take its obvious we shouldnt stand for this...so what do we do? overthrow the government? speak up and say hey your all liars? and look like fools in the process?


all im sayin is what can we do?...........what power do we have?


like i said previously its fine to believe what u believe but if there is nothing u can do your fighting a lost cause. words can only do so much...eventually actions must be put into place or nothing ever changes.i hope u agree

[nightprowler10]

These are some 9/11 level conspiracy theories.

[nathanjizzle]

Delete that. You're ruining my credibility. That is a picture of her sister, who strangely is wearing the same outfit she was in, but regardless, it's not the same girl.

thats the same outfit? use ur eyes. the girl with obama is clearly older than emilie. and if it is her sister it makes sense the parents would have bought them dresses with the same theme to take family photos.

and to add, there is the theory of genetics. I only guess that your siblings would look like you. but thats too far fetch, lets just say its illuminati.

[IamRAMBO24]

Looks like Sandy Hook to me.

So you are saying it is Nandy Hook ... still 8 letters relate to Sandy Hook, so I will assume that's what it was referring to.

Then throw in "Aurora" somewhere in the movie .. you don't have an argument. What are the chances.

[IamRAMBO24]

every state in the country has a town,neighborhood,school,city name aurora.:roll:


and the movie "sandy hook massacre"
how do you know adam lanza didnt watch this movie and based his actions off this movie? that would be more logical than a Illuminati conspiracy.

That doesn't make any sense.

The movie subliminally referenced 2 horrific events that didn't happen until after the movie was released.

That is a one in a million chance of that happening.

[nathanjizzle]

That doesn't make any sense.

The movie subliminally referenced 2 horrific events that didn't happen until after the movie was released.

That is a one in a million chance of that happening.

theres proof of your ability to critically think. the movie came out in 2000? like i said, if adam watched this movie, thinks in his phyco mind "Hey, theres an elementary school named sandy hook" and from there starts plotting. would be more logical then claiming conspiracy. even if this movie had ties to anything that would be it if any.

[nathanjizzle]

Looks like Sandy Hook to me.

So you are saying it is Nandy Hook ... still 8 letters relate to Sandy Hook, so I will assume that's what it was referring to.

Then throw in "Aurora" somewhere in the movie .. you don't have an argument. What are the chances.

i myself would be sketchy if the movie had the words sandy hook and aurora in it. but like i said, aurora is a very common name, and the map does not say sandy hook.

[bagelred]

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UrcLJTWgHVw/UM-SeHpL1nI/AAAAAAAAFFA/24jfOshTwXs/s640/aurora_2.jpg
http://static.infowars.com/slideshow/sandyhook.jpg



Gotta admit, if those pictures aren't shopped, that is pretty damn weird.

Our gov't likes to use a little poetry before they commit their staged events, and blaming it on a lone patsy. Kudos to them. :cheers:

[RaininThrees]

Where are the witnesses ..



http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/photos/2012/12/14/hi-child-react-shooting-8col.jpg

http://i.thestar.com/images/6f/3b/b4aeba854348960f1144eb9f3f72.jpg

http://timewellness.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/hl-kids-elementary-shooting-1214.jpg

http://i.thestar.com/images/26/aa/f35e8e484039b63b7d7e868a1834.jpg

http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/a9/7f/1355808829_1738_Sandy1.jpg

http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/XCW1bgeTAJrh6L6.BoGQpQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/thelookout/sandy-hook-fire-moment.jpg

http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/moultonadvertiser.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/e/7b/e7b3395d-c1ca-5440-88a8-29e71fe9159d/50d3a824d0636.image.jpg

[RaininThrees]

- Show me the funeral; show me some real tears kids are getting buried in this whole ordeal. If a bunch of kids were really murdered, then where are all the videos of people balling their eyes out? And no I am not talking about the parents who thought their kids were murdered when they came to the school either. That was the only real emotion displayed simply because they did not know what was going on.

There are none. No one is crying.

Holy f*ck you cant be serious. What hell is it going to take? Are you going to have to go and personalyl inspect every f*cking casket? You're a lunatic.

Here are some pics of Sandy Hook funerals. Here are your tears. Enjoy:

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/multimedia/archive/00366/118612420__366747c.jpg

http://www.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1.1082501!/httpImage/image.jpeg_gen/derivatives/landscape_960/image.jpeg

http://pmchollywoodlife.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/sandy-hook-funeral-paul-simon-lead.jpg

http://www.trbimg.com/img-50d1f465/turbine/la-elementary-school-shooting-in-newtown-conn--045/600

http://abcnews.go.com/images/US/ap_sandy_hook_anne_marie_murphy_funeral_ll_121220_ ssh.jpg

http://www.cp24.com/polopoly_fs/1.1082532!/httpImage/image.jpeg_gen/derivatives/landscape_960/image.jpeg

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/ss-121912-soto-funeral-tease.photoblog600.jpg

http://a.abcnews.go.com/images/US/gty_sandy_hook_funeral_nt_121218_wg.jpg

[TheMan]

So now the Illuminati are sending subliminal messages thru Batman movies?:facepalm

[miller-time]

There are none. No one is crying. There is one video and it has been proven the person was faking it. Even the President got on stage and joined in on the act.

I don't believe you are being sincere, but actually look at what you are saying. Look past this stupid persona you've created and actually read what you're writing. You are a disgusting person.

[irondarts]

OP is a fvcking insensitive lunatic.

[sunsfan1357]

So now the Illuminati are sending subliminal messages thru Batman movies?:facepalm
They've been using movies like The Big Lebowski and also Jay Z music videos, didn't you know?

[daily]

I don't believe you are being sincere, but actually look at what you are saying. Look past this stupid persona you've created and actually read what you're writing. You are a disgusting person.

Worse than that he's pro gun. Scary stuff people like him, scary scary stuff

[Jackass18]

So, not only are a number of people in the gov't in on this, but they also decided to give out hints in a popular movie bringing those people in on it as well, and then, what, forced a bunch of kids, teachers, policemen, firefighters, EMTs, hospital staff, etc. to be in on it, as well? Oh, and they hired actors, too? What a foolproof plan there...

[Jackass18]

Someone pointed out that Gotham City is basically modeled after New York City and the bay and beach in New Jersey named Sandy Hook is pretty much in the same vicinity as to where it's on in the Gotham map.

[IamRAMBO24]

Show me videos of witnesses who actually went through the whole ordeal. So far I have only seen a bunch of actors and no real emotions.

[KevinNYC]

sir, you're logical reasoning and rationality are not welcome in this thread where we are on a mission to unlock the real truths of this country!
Find the truth here, I follow all the strands of this and unravel the conspiracy.
After unravelling, it all fits together like a watch.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=285027

It was government funded nudists.

[IamRAMBO24]

I don't believe you are being sincere, but actually look at what you are saying. Look past this stupid persona you've created and actually read what you're writing. You are a disgusting person.

About 30-40 years ago, they would call this investigative journalism. Nowadays anyone who calls bullsh*t on anything is now a conspiracy theorist. The media has been bought and paid for by the highest bidder. They no longer seek the truth but merely report on what is being told.

I see very little concrete proof, fake actors, and a lot of misinformation from the media.

My position is simply "I know nothing, therefore I am asking questions." Your position is you already know everything based on the media, thus those who are seeking answers probably know nothing and are delusional for not believing what they are being told.

It is as simple as that. If you don't like this kind of crap, then why are you constantly trolling this thread. You would be better off ignoring it and continue to live in your own little bubble reality that allows the media to dictate your perspective.

I like asking questions when I see a few anamolies; what is wrong with that .. why is being curious such a sin nowadays?

[IamRAMBO24]

Find the truth here, I follow all the strands of this and unravel the conspiracy.
After unravelling, it all fits together like a watch.
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=285027

It was government funded nudists.

That thread is stupid as f*ck.

[KevinNYC]

That thread is stupid as f*ck.

Who got to you?

Were they nude?

[Jackass18]

About 30-40 years ago, they would call this investigative journalism. Nowadays anyone who calls bullsh*t on anything is now a conspiracy theorist. The media has been bought and paid for by the highest bidder. They no longer seek the truth but merely report on what is being told.

I see very little concrete proof, fake actors, and a lot of misinformation from the media.

My position is simply "I know nothing, therefore I am asking questions." Your position is you already know everything based on the media, thus those who are seeking answers probably know nothing and are delusional for not believing what they are being told.

It is as simple as that. If you don't like this kind of crap, then why are you constantly trolling this thread. You would be better off ignoring it and continue to live in your own little bubble reality that allows the media to dictate your perspective.

I like asking questions when I see a few anamolies; what is wrong with that .. why is being curious such a sin nowadays?

Ignoring/dismissing everything that goes against your precious conspiracy theory is not a good stance to take especially when you're trying to act like you're open-minded while everyone is close-minded.

[dunksby]

You are f*ckin dense if you don't believe there are coded references in popular movies. The facts are there: there are numerous cryptic references to 9/11 in major movies way before it happened.

But you are dense and is prob incapable of digging a bit deeper in the critical aspect of your brain.

Leave this f*ckin thread alone. Can't us conspiracy nuts have our fun without you **** f*cks raining on the parade. A*shole.

F*ck you Aussie boy.

We're just having fun here exercising a bit of critical thinking. Why do you have to be so serious Aussie boy .. stop raining on the parade. Did Obama elect you as "**** President Loser of the the anti-conspiracy club." What is wrong with a bit of denial and asking questions .. stop being such a close minded queeeer.
Damn you are one open minded sob.

[Legend of Josh]

The government has a technology to control the weather: HARP.

:facepalm

In all seriousness, the original post you created is rather interesting.

[Legend of Josh]

Haven't followed this story very closely, was there anyone who was shot but didn't die?

That's a really good question. I was wondering how a 20 year old could be precise enough to drop 26 bodies like he was some highly ranked special forces secret weapon. I do find it rather puzzling that the very few rushed to the hospital were later dead... not a single "survivor" unless I'm missing something?

[Legend of Josh]

Yes, even several children.

I haven't heard a single instance in this entire story / development of those who were shot but survived. I must be missing something ...

[n00bie]

I haven't heard a single instance in this entire story / development of those who were shot but survived. I must be missing something ...

There seems to be a lot of loops holes & unanswered questions. Very similar to the Aurora shooting. The media goes crazy, makes up lies & facts.. they never tell the entire story. Hype dies down, and everyone just leaves it alone.

[longtime lurker]

LOL so the CIA one of the world's most sophisticated agencies is going to pass code messages through movies.....because well I guess conspiracy theorists actually don't need a reason to spout some insane bullshit. According to conspiracy theorists there was supposed to be a major catastrophy at the olympics and the world was supposed to end yesterday...but of course they'll conveniently forget that. The only thing this shows is conspiracy theorists are insensitive jerkoffs

[TheMarkMadsen]

How many threads are you guys going to steal from above top secret?

You straight copy and pasted this thread title content of the thread from another website.

[Legend of Josh]

LOL so the CIA one of the world's most sophisticated agencies is going to pass code messages through movies.....because well I guess conspiracy theorists actually don't need a reason to spout some insane bullshit. According to conspiracy theorists there was supposed to be a major catastrophy at the olympics and the world was supposed to end yesterday...but of course they'll conveniently forget that. The only thing this shows is conspiracy theorists are insensitive jerkoffs

Pride is their ultimate motivation. That would explain the "in your face" facet (movies, music, media, etc). They take pleasure in doing it right in front of us, and when all is said and done looking back, we'll come to the grim realization all the signs were blatantly in sight, and we were either too naive, ignorant or drowning in denial to stop it.

[tomtucker]

That's a really good question. I was wondering how a 20 year old could be precise enough to drop 26 bodies like he was some highly ranked special forces secret weapon. I do find it rather puzzling that the very few rushed to the hospital were later dead... not a single "survivor" unless I'm missing something?

small kids.....they die easy.........:(

besides, the AR-15 bushmaster is used by military in many countries......very powerful and deadly



.

[RaininThrees]

There seems to be a lot of loops holes & unanswered questions. Very similar to the Aurora shooting. The media goes crazy, makes up lies & facts.. they never tell the entire story. Hype dies down, and everyone just leaves it alone.

I think you need to learn how the media works these days. Here's how it goes:

1) Major news story happens

2) Everyone rushes to get the story broken "first", not really caring if the info is 100% verified or not. Poor information is originally disseminated.

3) Over the next few days the actual details come out, corrections get made (and conspiracy theorists are born), actual new reporting and analysis gets done

4) New news story breaks, news agencies forget about original incident and move on to the next one, because that's what drives rating/web hits

5) Repeat step 1

There isn't anything sinister here. Just a bunch of inept new organizations looking for ratings.

[RaininThrees]

That thread is stupid as f*ck.

It's just as plausible as this one.

[daily]

That's a really good question. I was wondering how a 20 year old could be precise enough to drop 26 bodies like he was some highly ranked special forces secret weapon. I do find it rather puzzling that the very few rushed to the hospital were later dead... not a single "survivor" unless I'm missing something?Nothing precise about it. he used over 100 rounds to kill 26 in an enclosed space.

[KevinNYC]

It's just as plausible as this one.

This RAMBO genius is such a great critical thinker that he can't even recognize a parody of his own style of "reasoning."

[RaininThrees]

Show me videos of witnesses who actually went through the whole ordeal. So far I have only seen a bunch of actors and no real emotions.

I guess you missed all the pictures I just posted.

I'll help you out again, because you seem to be rather dense:

http://cdn.breitbart.com/mediaserver/Breitbart/Big-Government/2012/CT%20Shooting/sandy_hook_parents_crying_reuters.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/12/15/article-2248584-1684DC9A000005DC-339_638x412.jpg

http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/tAONbWiI_YtqbiicBIPOcQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTMxMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/blogs/partner/470_2558444.jpg

http://www.redletterchristians.org/wp-content/uploads/Children-Sandy-Hook.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/12/21/article-2251701-169CE7BB000005DC-404_634x457.jpg

Want more?

[RaininThrees]

This RAMBO genius is such a great critical thinker that he can't even recognize a parody of his own style of "reasoning."

Exactly.

[RaininThrees]

Nothing precise about it. he used over 100 rounds to kill 26 in an enclosed space.

Exactly.

Dude was just firing into a crowd and kept firing until everyone was down.

For those who haven't heard about survivors, there's this:

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/sandy-hook-classroom-survivor-played-dead-165139277--abc-news-topstories.html


The lone survivor of one of the two Sandy Hook Elementary School first-grade classrooms where Adam Lanza allegedly shot and killed 20 children tricked the gunman by playing dead, the girl's pastor said.

"She ran out of the school building covered from head to toe with blood and the first thing she said to her mom was, 'Mommy, I'm OK but all my friends are dead,'" Pastor Jim Solomon told ABC News' Lara Spencer this weekend.

The girl, a 6-year-old whose name is not being released for privacy reasons, was the first student to emerge from the lockdown at Sandy Hook, Solomon said. He said the young girl described the shooter to her mom in a way that only a young child can.

"Well, she saw someone who she felt was angry and someone she felt was very mad," Solomon said. "I think it's impossible outside of divine intervention. She has wisdom beyond her years, for sure."

[tomtucker]

Nothing precise about it. he used over 100 rounds to kill 26 in an enclosed space.

yes, it was not out in the courtyard......it was inside classrooms i think..?...:(

[KevinNYC]

Nothing precise about it. he used over 100 rounds to kill 26 in an enclosed space.

He also shot them multiple times. Including one child who was shot 11 times.
I don't think any specific shooting skill was needed at all.

[KevinNYC]

yes, it was not out in the courtyard......it was inside classrooms i think..?...:(

Other than the school officials he encountered after shooting his way in, all the killing occurred in just two classrooms. The first group was thought to be clutching each other out of fear.

[KevinNYC]

Exactly.

Dude was just firing into a crowd and kept firing until everyone was down.

For those who haven't heard about survivors, there's this:

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/sandy-hook-classroom-survivor-played-dead-165139277--abc-news-topstories.html

I believe there were other survivors in the second classroom who were hidden in the closet, but they may mean the only survivor who he saw.

[TheSilentKiller]

Rambo asking for pictures of tears and funerals is sickening. You are a horrible person. But I guess you get a pass because you are just 'asking questions'. :facepalm

[DonDadda59]

You know, more and more I'm beginning to think that the Internet is a bad idea. Used to be that in order for your voice/opinion to be heard, you needed to be exceptional in some way or have some sort of perceivable talent. Now, any idiot with a modem connection can spew whatever stupidity is brewing in his brain and he won't have a shortage of like-minded dunces to agree with him.

[heyhey]

You know, more and more I'm beginning to think that the Internet is a bad idea. Used to be that in order for your voice/opinion to be heard, you needed to be exceptional in some way or have some sort of perceivable talent. Now, any idiot with a modem connection can spew whatever stupidity is brewing in his brain and he won't have a shortage of like-minded dunces to agree with him.

everybody's gonna get their 15 mins of fame

and I do think conspiracy types have been emboldened by internet cause they probably perceive more ppl out there than in reality actually agree with them

[Legend of Josh]

While I agree most conspiracy theories are ill-founded and plausibly false, all of them can't be complete and total bullshit. Whether or not we believe them to be true/false is irrelevant, what's important and actually matters is are they in-fact true or false.

[Timmy D for MVP]

You know, more and more I'm beginning to think that the Internet is a bad idea. Used to be that in order for your voice/opinion to be heard, you needed to be exceptional in some way or have some sort of perceivable talent. Now, any idiot with a modem connection can spew whatever stupidity is brewing in his brain and he won't have a shortage of like-minded dunces to agree with him.

Look closely at pop culture over the last say 5-8 years and so and tell me that there isn't a cultural debate going on about this exact issue. One of my professors argued that there is now a debate raging about whether or not some totalitarian philosophies are actually beneficial to the existence of a state. Not the idea of true total media control centralized by the government, but more the idea that media control should be in the hands of people who are qualified. Interesting stuff.

[heyhey]

Look closely at pop culture over the last say 5-8 years and so and tell me that there isn't a cultural debate going on about this exact issue. One of my professors argued that there is now a debate raging about whether or not some totalitarian philosophies are actually beneficial to the existence of a state. Not the idea of true total media control centralized by the government, but more the idea that media control should be in the hands of people who are qualified. Interesting stuff.

I think it's almost tautological that totalitarian philosophies would benefit preservation of the state but that is interesting. Can you hook a brother up with some good articles or papers to read?

[Jackass18]

Pride is their ultimate motivation. That would explain the "in your face" facet (movies, music, media, etc). They take pleasure in doing it right in front of us, and when all is said and done looking back, we'll come to the grim realization all the signs were blatantly in sight, and we were either too naive, ignorant or drowning in denial to stop it.

Obviously. Had I just gone to see The Dark Knight Rises and noticed the words "Aurora" and then "Sandy Hook", I clearly then would have had the knowledge to go and prevent those shootings.

Awesome, they're planting these hints to either:

Drop us clues to see if we can prevent the tragedies in time because they like playing sick and twisted games like this with society.

or

They're subliminal messages hidden in films to trigger a shooter to carry out the shootings (Project MKUltra).

[Legend of Josh]

Obviously. Had I just gone to see The Dark Knight Rises and noticed the words "Aurora" and then "Sandy Hook", I clearly then would have had the knowledge to go and prevent those shootings.

Awesome, they're planting these hints to either:

Drop us clues to see if we can prevent the tragedies in time because they like playing sick and twisted games like this with society.

or

They're subliminal messages hidden in films to trigger a shooter to carry out the shootings (Project MKUltra).

No, you're just not seeing the bigger picture and making yourself look like a jackass in the process.

I'm not referring to the Sandy Hook incident specifically, I'm just saying in general.

[Jackass18]

While I agree most conspiracy theories are ill-founded and plausibly false, all of them can't be complete and total bullshit. Whether or not we believe them to be true/false is irrelevant, what's important and actually matters is are they in-fact true or false.

There are some that are actually true. The problem is these Internet wackos try and turn every single story into a conspiracy theory by ignoring/dismissing everything that goes against it and also twist and stretch many others to fit into their conspiracies.


No, you're just not seeing the bigger picture and making yourself look like a jackass in the process.

I was simply making a joke... I was reading about people who were saying such things and also other reasons (TDKR triggered those people to do those shootings for example). For pride? Yeah, they hold pride so highly and would risk so much for it. Rub it all in our faces and then what? We finally find out and there's chaos or maybe we're all brainwashed by then or have little to no power to do anything about it? All these plots with so many people involved and everything running so smoothly with no leaks or screw ups? It's awfully hard to keep a secret so big especially with so many people involved, and then you throw in that they're also handing out clues all along? The gov't has so many problems and bungled so many things, and they have many people who scrutinize every little thing they do, but they can orchestrate this grand plot having us all fooled all the while dropping hints? Bravo, gubment, bravo.

People criticize the government to no end, but then think they could pull off some gigantic, nefarious plot all the while dropping hints here and there while laughing behind our backs with maniacal laughter...

[IamRAMBO24]

You know, more and more I'm beginning to think that the Internet is a bad idea. Used to be that in order for your voice/opinion to be heard, you needed to be exceptional in some way or have some sort of perceivable talent. Now, any idiot with a modem connection can spew whatever stupidity is brewing in his brain and he won't have a shortage of like-minded dunces to agree with him.

Whatever.

If it's anything, the internet allows information that usually go unreported by the media to be heard and allows the people to voice their opinion on a subject that will be heard by many other people. Before, this right was something only the media, celebrities, politicians, etc. (aka rich people) had access to. Now the majority of the population finally has a voice.

Conspiracy theory is a form of investigative journalism; I don't see anything wrong with questioning anamolies that usually are released through the media.

I think the act of questioning has been so distorted and the dependence on the media has been so ingrained that many people will no longer question what is being told.

In fact, if you do question, then you are considered "delusional" and like you said it, "dunce."

But I like the fact they are raising questions even though some of them are wrong; usually the ones that are full of sh*t are the ones nobody will take seriously, it is the ones that hit a bit too close to home that the government is scared of.

A true Democracy requires discourse (even if the person raising the question is wrong), not just one take on a subject from a widely controlled media.

[IamRAMBO24]

Rambo asking for pictures of tears and funerals is sickening. You are a horrible person. But I guess you get a pass because you are just 'asking questions'. :facepalm

I didn't ask for pictures; I asked for videos. My premise remains: these are robotic child actors spitting out script lines.

I am asking for proof; surely if 27 people died someone on the scene must be a bit traumatized and can't simply fake this sh*t right ..

Where's the video?

[DonDadda59]

Conspiracy theory is a form of investigative journalism; I don't see anything wrong with questioning anamolies that usually are released through the media.


No, conspiracy theory is a form of douchebaggery. If you were an investigative journalist, you would be in Sandy Hook right now conducting interviews with law enforcement, school officials, families, etc. Instead, you're on a message board coming off a completely clueless and insensitive dunce. What is your particular conspiracy theory exactly? From what I gather here it looks like you're trying to convince people that the massacre didn't happen and some government agency or body hired child actors to read scripts.

According to your journalistic investigation, what are the particular agencies that were involved in this hoax? I mean something like this would require a whole town, state, and the federal government's participation as well as the media, law enforcement, etc. Who benefits from this?

I mean, you have thought this through haven't you? This thread and its content aren't just the copy & pasted mental diarrhea of some internet loser, right? This is the result of a thorough and well-documented investigation, amirite?

[IamRAMBO24]

No, conspiracy theory is a form of douchebaggery. If you were an investigative journalist, you would be in Sandy Hook right now conducting interviews with law enforcement, school officials, families, etc. Instead, you're on a message board coming off a completely clueless and insensitive dunce. What is your particular conspiracy theory exactly? From what I gather here it looks like you're trying to convince people that the massacre didn't happen and some government agency or body hired child actors to read scripts.

According to your journalistic investigation, what are the particular agencies that were involved in this hoax? I mean something like this would require a whole town, state, and the federal government's participation as well as the media, law enforcement, etc. Who benefits from this?

I mean, you have thought this through haven't you? This thread and its content aren't just the copy & pasted mental diarrhea of some internet loser, right? This is the result of a thorough and well-documented investigation, amirite?

If I was in Sandy Hook as a reporter, I would do what every reporter does: stick a thumb up my a*s and report what was being told like a parrot.

Investigative reporting digs deeper than what is being reported. The "professional" journalism you speak of is just pure bullsh*t. This is why I compare the investigative (REAL) reporting to conspiracy theorists: they are asking questions, finding anamolies, doing further research, and creatively coming up with different hypothesis when they come across an anamoly. There is no technique in the reporting going on in the media: these so called professionals are basically riding on some gossip worthy of TMZ and reporting it. That's it. That's their technique.

Sadly anyone who attempts this kind of reporting will either get fired or be label as a conspiracy theorist. It is a lost art.

If your journalist professor supports this kind of reporting, you need to find a better education homie.

[DonDadda59]

If I was in Sandy Hook as a reporter, I would do what every reporter does: stick a thumb up my a*s and report what was being told like a parrot.

Investigative reporting digs deeper than what is being reported. The "professional" journalism you speak of is just pure bullsh*t. This is why I compare the investigative (REAL) reporting to conspiracy theorists: they are asking questions, finding anamolies, doing further research, and creatively coming up with different hypothesis when they come across an anamoly. There is no technique in the reporting going on in the media: these so called professionals are basically riding on some gossip worthy of TMZ and reporting it. That's it. That's their technique.

If your journalist professor supports this kind of reporting, you need to find a better education homie.

So basically you took the long way of admitting you're talking out of your ass, or more likely, copy & pasting someone else's bullshit. I asked you point blank- what is your theory on what occurred (or didn't), who specifically was involved, who benefited, and what do you have to back up these assertions.

It's really pretty simple stuff. I'm going to sleep and I fully expect you to dodge the questions, but hey maybe I'll be surprised. Have a great night, make sure the government or illuminati doesn't send some brainwashed assassin to your home to silence you (hopefully your hometown doesn't appear in any recent film releases). :cheers:

[IamRAMBO24]

No, conspiracy theory is a form of douchebaggery. If you were an investigative journalist, you would be in Sandy Hook right now conducting interviews with law enforcement, school officials, families, etc. Instead, you're on a message board coming off a completely clueless and insensitive dunce. What is your particular conspiracy theory exactly? From what I gather here it looks like you're trying to convince people that the massacre didn't happen and some government agency or body hired child actors to read scripts.

According to your journalistic investigation, what are the particular agencies that were involved in this hoax? I mean something like this would require a whole town, state, and the federal government's participation as well as the media, law enforcement, etc. Who benefits from this?

I mean, you have thought this through haven't you? This thread and its content aren't just the copy & pasted mental diarrhea of some internet loser, right? This is the result of a thorough and well-documented investigation, amirite?

The proof is still on your side.

Where are the videos of the traumatic witnesses in the shooting. Sadly, there is only one crying scene and the guy literally had to work up a sad face before they turned on the camera.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urrRcgB581w

:lol

This whole thing stinks of fakeness.

[IamRAMBO24]

So basically you took the long way of admitting you're talking out of your ass, or more likely, copy & pasting someone else's bullshit. I asked you point blank- what is your theory on what occurred (or didn't), who specifically was involved, who benefited, and what do you have to back up these assertions.

It's really pretty simple stuff. I'm going to sleep and I fully expect you to dodge the questions, but hey maybe I'll be surprised. Have a great night, make sure the government or illuminati doesn't send some brainwashed assassin to your home to silence you (hopefully your hometown doesn't appear in any recent film releases). :cheers:

I can care less who benefits from this nor am I on some mission to over throw the government. I think those who actually think they can do that is stupid.

I think conspiracies are fun to talk about; it's just a curiosity of not knowing that I like to know. I do it for comedic value.

[IamRAMBO24]

So basically you took the long way of admitting you're talking out of your ass, or more likely, copy & pasting someone else's bullshit. I asked you point blank- what is your theory on what occurred (or didn't), who specifically was involved, who benefited, and what do you have to back up these assertions.

It's really pretty simple stuff. I'm going to sleep and I fully expect you to dodge the questions, but hey maybe I'll be surprised. Have a great night, make sure the government or illuminati doesn't send some brainwashed assassin to your home to silence you (hopefully your hometown doesn't appear in any recent film releases). :cheers:

To wish death on someone is just sad.

I don't even know what the illuminati is.

[IamRAMBO24]

Negative rep for wishing death on me. What an as*hole.

[IamRAMBO24]

In the below audio, the scanner recording at about 30:24, the police officer reports that he has a possible suspect vehicle and lists off the license plate.

The name of the man who the car belongs to is Christopher A. Rodia

There is a Christopher A. Rodia in Connecticut, born in 1969. If you google his name you will find an article from February 2012 about him stealing copper here. (http://www.wtnh.com/dpp/news/crime/duo-caught-stealing-copper-from-construction-site#.UNSqcG9X1Xc)

At 30:20 the police officer reports the license plate of the vehicle.

872 YEO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ETkrxfYoQtc)

Adam Lanza's license plate:

http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/gw50d4b2f1.jpg

Again, another anamoly; this is not Adam Lanza's mom's car. Someone is lying.

[Legend of Josh]

So basically you took the long way of admitting you're talking out of your ass, or more likely, copy & pasting someone else's bullshit. I asked you point blank- what is your theory on what occurred (or didn't), who specifically was involved, who benefited, and what do you have to back up these assertions.

It's really pretty simple stuff. I'm going to sleep and I fully expect you to dodge the questions, but hey maybe I'll be surprised. Have a great night, make sure the government or illuminati doesn't send some brainwashed assassin to your home to silence you (hopefully your hometown doesn't appear in any recent film releases). :cheers:

"Who's that peeking in my window Pow!, nobody now!"

:roll:

Old school Goodie Mob ...

Geto Boys ... Mind Playing Tricks On Me

"See every time my eyes close, I start sweating and blood starts coming out my nose ... there's somebody watching me act, but I don't know who it is so I'm watching my back"

:rockon:

[IamRAMBO24]

"Who's that peeking in my window Pow!, nobody now!"

:roll:

Old school Goodie Mob ...

Geto Boys ... Mind Playing Tricks On Me

"See every time my eyes close, I start sweating and blood starts coming out my nose ... there's somebody watching me act, but I don't know who it is so I'm watching my back"

:rockon:

Haha ..

Wish it would happen. Bring it on. Might as well since I won't ever shut up. :cheers:

[Legend of Josh]

Haha ..

Wish it would happen. Bring it on. Might as well since I won't ever shut up. :cheers:

What's really crazy, is that some internet conspiracy nuts actually believe the FBI, CIA and especially Illuminati or whomever closely monitor their online life/lives and become RL paranoid "peeping out their windows" and shit like that thinking they're a target because they've "reached the masses" via the interweb. They want to believe they're infamous on some internet super hero steez.

Honestly, and sorry Dooms you're my boy but I have to use you as an example here, some of these guys honestly believe they're being watched every minute of every day, like there's some task force specially dedicated to track, monitor and catch every post, opinion, etc from them as they preach, educate and "bring to the light" opening everyone's eyes like they're some modern day hero.

:oldlol:

[KevinNYC]

No, conspiracy theory is a form of douchebaggery. If you were an investigative journalist, you would be in Sandy Hook right now conducting interviews with law enforcement, school officials, families, etc. Instead, you're on a message board coming off a completely clueless and insensitive dunce. What is your particular conspiracy theory exactly? From what I gather here it looks like you're trying to convince people that the massacre didn't happen and some government agency or body hired child actors to read scripts.

According to your journalistic investigation, what are the particular agencies that were involved in this hoax? I mean something like this would require a whole town, state, and the federal government's participation as well as the media, law enforcement, etc. Who benefits from this?

I mean, you have thought this through haven't you? This thread and its content aren't just the copy & pasted mental diarrhea of some internet loser, right? This is the result of a thorough and well-documented investigation, amirite?

The propensity to conspiracy theorism is a symptom of alienation. Alienation from any sense of community probably precedes alienation from the government and the media until you end up where we are, alienation from your emotions. You don't have feel anything when you seeing children crying because their classmates were murdered, you can dismiss them and in fact sneer at them for daring to make you try to feel something other than the narcotic of your own self-righteousness.

[RedBlackAttack]

The propensity to conspiracy theorism is a symptom of alienation. Alienation from any sense of community probably precedes alienation from the government and the media until you end up where we are, alienation from your emotions. You don't have feel anything when you seeing children crying because their classmates were murdered, you can dismiss them and in fact sneer at them for daring to make you try to feel something other than the narcotic of your own self-righteousness.
It's also about a fear of randomness in the world. Conspiracy theorists' greatest fear isn't a shadow government or a New World Order or Doomsday scenarios. Their greatest fear is the idea that, in the world, things happen without any discernible societal rhyme or reason.

Without being able to explain exactly why or how a tragic event occurred, they're left with the emptiness of the unknown and unpredictability of everyday life in the real world. Better to concoct these ridiculously convoluted theories, because at least it brings a sense of order to the world.

[KevinNYC]

It's also about a fear of randomness in the world. Conspiracy theorists' greatest fear isn't a shadow government or a New World Order or Doomsday scenarios. Their greatest fear is the idea that, in the world, things happen without any discernible societal rhyme or reason.

Without being able to explain exactly why or how a tragic event occurred, they're left with the emptiness of the unknown and unpredictability of everyday life in the real world. Better to concoct these ridiculously convoluted theories, because at least it brings a sense of order to the world.

There is also a brain chemistry component to it. I didn't use the word narcotic just for effect. Folks with higher levels of dopamine in the brain seem to be more susceptible to conspiracy theorism. Hunting conspiracy and noticing patterns pleases our brain the same way playing Tetris does.

[gigantes]

There is also a brain chemistry component to it. I didn't use the word narcotic just for effect. Folks with higher levels of dopamine in the brain seem to be more susceptible to conspiracy theorism. Hunting conspiracy and noticing patterns pleases our brain the same way playing Tetris does.
sounds like dunning-krueger in effect.

i think it helps to look back at history too, to see how groups of people explained things and held on to ridiculous notions for so long. i mean, a group of ignorant, self-righteous people can function similarly to an alienated individual. the dopamine can surge for everyone involved.

you might say that all of human history was filled with conspiracy theories... just that in the past they became the fabric of society and religion, and now they're relegated to the fringe of this technosociety.

[RaininThrees]

The proof is still on your side.

Where are the videos of the traumatic witnesses in the shooting. Sadly, there is only one crying scene and the guy literally had to work up a sad face before they turned on the camera.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urrRcgB581w

:lol

This whole thing stinks of fakeness.

Yeah.

It's a real shame that news cameras weren't there to capture the violence live, or that police haven't released CCTV footage (if the school had a CCTV system) so we can actually see the little kids getting mowed down in their classroom. I mean, we HAVE to clear this up, right?

Also, it's shame that news organizations didn't stuff cameras in the faces of those 6 and 7 year olds who were MOST traumatized by this event immediately after it happened.

[Jackass18]

The proof is still on your side.

Where are the videos of the traumatic witnesses in the shooting. Sadly, there is only one crying scene and the guy literally had to work up a sad face before they turned on the camera.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urrRcgB581w

:lol

This whole thing stinks of fakeness.

Did you mean "the burden of proof is still on your side"? You're the one who is making extraordinary claims and they require extraordinary evidence (as the saying goes). So, where is the evidence? Where is the 'smoking gun'? You act like the media rushing to print the news and making mistakes is an anomaly when it isn't. If people want to be taken seriously on such matters, then they have to bring real, hardcore evidence backing up their claims. Not a bunch of made up, twisted junk where you ignore or twist reality to suit your needs. Continuing to ask for video/pictures of crying kids comes off as twisted.

[RoseCity07]

http://captionsearch.com/pix/thumb/ls72gokd0y-t.jpg

[heyhey]

you might say that all of human history was filled with conspiracy theories... just that in the past they became the fabric of society and religion, and now they're relegated to the fringe of this technosociety.

this is real interesting. Tales of the supernatural have evolved into conspiracy stories of shadowy mercurial secret organizations.

The reasons for constructing these stories do seem inconsistent. It's a fear of the random and need to place some deterministic narrative to connect all the arbitrary dots of the world.

[gigantes]

this is real interesting. Tales of the supernatural have evolved into conspiracy stories of shadowy mercurial secret organizations.

The reasons for constructing these stories do seem inconsistent. It's a fear of the random and need to place some deterministic narrative to connect all the arbitrary dots of the world.
...which goes to the heart of the human (or sentient) experience. because no matter how much we know, there's still a shitload around us that we don't know and won't ever know, so we're strongly urged to construct that narrative you mention.

just that nowadays we have the comforting platform of science to lean so heavily against. but for almost all the rest of modern human history (as much as the last 200,000 yrs or so) we had little choice but to be conspiracy theorists of a sort, and then act on those belief systems. such as making an offering at a temple to appease the grand puppeteer behind the conspiracy. either that, or live in a state of uncertainty and increased anxiety.

and prolonged anxiety leads to loss of health. so historically speaking, being a conspiracy theorist was a healthful thing to do. up to a point, obviously. i guess the key difference is where one's level of restraint lies.

[daily]

this is real interesting. Tales of the supernatural have evolved into conspiracy stories of shadowy mercurial secret organizations.

The reasons for constructing these stories do seem inconsistent. It's a fear of the random and need to place some deterministic narrative to connect all the arbitrary dots of the world.

They used to burn people for being witches. Conspiracy theories fall into that same must have an explanation for the in-explainable class.

Conspiracy nuts take a moment in time and dismiss the easy answers and weave complicated connect the dots stories then hold it out as if it's completely rational.

In this case the nuts use police radio chatter during an event as it unfolds live then expect the police to be 100% right about everything they communicate during a fluid situation.

The fact is during an event like Sandy Hook, the police the media following the police and witnesses on the scene are going to make mistakes, they're human and as we all know humans are not perfect in a crisis situation.

That's where the conspiracy folks step in to point out the human mistakes when chaos was ruling the moment but in their case they deny the errors and see them as actual devious doings by some unseen force.

[Riddler]

That's where the conspiracy folks step in to point out the human mistakes when chaos was ruling the moment but in their case they deny the errors and see them as actual devious doings by some unseen force.



That's exactly what I did with Building 7, The Pentagon, and Flight 93.

Chaos was ruling the moment and those physical objects made some really big errors just like humans do.

But let's not go back to the fact that 9/11 was obviously inside job.

I don't know what happened at Sandy Hook, all I know is that Robbie Parker looks like the worst actor I've ever seen... His entire speech felt fake. If you can watch him speak and not feel the same then good for you...

Now excuse me, I have Cowboys game to watch.

[IamRAMBO24]

Did you mean "the burden of proof is still on your side"? You're the one who is making extraordinary claims and they require extraordinary evidence (as the saying goes). So, where is the evidence? Where is the 'smoking gun'? You act like the media rushing to print the news and making mistakes is an anomaly when it isn't. If people want to be taken seriously on such matters, then they have to bring real, hardcore evidence backing up their claims. Not a bunch of made up, twisted junk where you ignore or twist reality to suit your needs. Continuing to ask for video/pictures of crying kids comes off as twisted.

The media is so f*ckin fake it is ridiculous. The burden of proof is on them. I don't know why you are asking the proof from me when I am merely asking questions based on the inconsistencies from the media.

I am not drawing any conclusions; I am merely questioning the inconsistencies:

1. Why did the first responders link Adam Lanza's mom's car to Christopher Rodia and then the media proceeded to claim it was her's when it was clearly not.

2. How come the first responders knew the shooter was Adam but then proceeded to say it was his brother .. and how did they know who it was before arriving on the scene of the crime.

3. How come all the videos of the so call "traumatized" victims seem like bad actors straight out of a stage play.

4. How come there are very little concrete evidences coming out of the case .. for example: pictures of Nancy's gun collection or evidences of logs at shooting range, information on Adam Lanza's psychological visits, bullet holes from the shooting, more information from the injured, etc.

The only information we are getting are heresay and "official" word from law enforcements and federal agents. Where are the concrete proofs ..

[IamRAMBO24]

I hate the term conspiracy theorists; it sounds so demeaning. Let's call it like what it truly is: amateur investigative reporting.

Investigative journalism: The field of journalism that digs deeply into the darkest unknown secrets of corporations, criminals and governments, wiping out the cobwebs and tangled lies to expose the truth. Investigative journalists are those that expose the cracks in major cases. Their reports are often termed exposs for this very reason.

[IamRAMBO24]

After 911, people are simply more observational. Most of the information aren't from me personally, but from like minded individuals who are more vigilant after the 9/11 event.

Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.

[tomtucker]

4 firemen shot in New York, 2 dead.......:facepalm ..:( ....will someone also link that to Sandy Hook

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[RaininThrees]

I am not drawing any conclusions; I am merely questioning the inconsistencies:


Huh?



There is one video and it has been proven the person was faking it. Even the President got on stage and joined in on the act.



I see very little concrete proof, fake actors, and a lot of misinformation from the media.


this is not Adam Lanza's mom's car. Someone is lying.[/B]

Whole lotta conclusions there. Burden of proof is on you, son.

Finally, let's not pretend you're an investigative journalist. You're a nobody on the internet without real access to any first hand information. It's funny how you distrust "official" reports, yet totally believe stuff that random people post on Youtube, as if one is more authentic than the other.

[nathanjizzle]

this is stupid