Derek Fisher requests to be waived by Mavs, to sign Chris Douglas-Roberts

[UtahJazzFan88]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine

About to be posted online: ESPN sources say Mavs are waiving PG Derek Fisher at Fisher's request


Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine

Mavs will be calling up Chris Douglas-Roberts, widely regarded as D-League's hottest current prospect, to replace Fish. ESPN link on the way

Why would he want to be waived, does he want to go to the Lakers or something? :confusedshrug:

[Rose]

Why would he want to be waived, does he want to go to the Lakers or something? :confusedshrug:
:eek:


CDR

[All Net]

Wonder why fish requested this.

[VIP2000]

This last Mavericks roster spot is like a revolving door.

Eddy Curry < Troy Murphy < Derek Fisher < Chris Douglas Roberts

[Burgz V2]

probably personal reasons, dont think he did it to get on another team

[Levity]

Didnt he suffer a knee or leg injury this week? He probably just wants to go home so he can rehab on his own schedule

[UtahJazzFan88]

This last Mavericks roster spot is like a revolving door.

Eddy Curry < Troy Murphy < Derek Fisher < Chris Douglas Roberts

CDR is actually a serviceable bench player honestly.

[TMT]

Maybe he has a commitment from another squad to sign him. Hopefully he remains in the league.

[DirkNowitzki41]

He was actually pretty solid for us, shocked about this.. Although CDR could be even better.

[It's A VC3!!!]

Derek was very solid for the Mavs. Why would he suddenly ask to be waived? I think the injury made him contemplate retirement for good. He sees that the game is to much for his old body. That's what I think.

[boozehound]

Maybe he has a commitment from another squad to sign him. Hopefully he remains in the league.
that would be collusion and I would expect some massive fines.

[Bosnian Sajo]

The move has actually been in the works for a few days, sources said, but the Mavericks asked Fisher to stay with the team until another point guard could be secured. Fisher consented to stay on and played Tuesday night against Philadelphia, only to suffer a strained patellar tendon in his right knee early in the Mavs' home win.

So the injury happened after he requested to be waived..

[Bosnian Sajo]

In Tuesday's game against Philadelphia, I suffered an injury to my patellar tendon. The recovery time will be approximately two weeks. With this news and the difficulty I have been having being away from my family, I have asked the organization to waive me so I can return home.

(Mavericks owner) Mark Cuban has been extremely supportive and has granted me this request. I cannot say enough good things about this organization. From Mark, to Coach (Rick) Carlisle, to the players on the Mavericks' team, I sincerely thank them for the opportunity.

I have made decisions in the past, leaving money and opportunity on the table, and I will need to do that again. My family is my priority and that is where I choose to be. I won't close the possibility that I will play again, however for now my family and being close to them remains the priority.

Personal reasons it is

[boozehound]

Personal reasons it is
sure. when did we see this before.....?

[Bosnian Sajo]

sure. when did we see this before.....?


He moved to LA for his kid, he had a legitimate reason. I believe we have seen the last of Fisher in the NBA, as a player at least.

[boozehound]

He moved to LA for his kid, he had a legitimate reason. I believe we have seen the last of Fisher in the NBA, as a player at least.
meh, he went to the town with the 5th or so best facility for his kid. There were clearly more factors at stake than just what was best for his kid.

[Bosnian Sajo]

meh, he went to the town with the 5th or so best facility for his kid. There were clearly more factors at stake than just what was best for his kid.


It also helps that he probably still owned a house there. And if you remember, Lakers weren't exactly contenders at the time.

[boozehound]

maybe Im a dick, but that left a bad taste in my mouth.

[andremiller07]

I would not mind seeing Dominique Jones get more mins he had a few silly turnover vs Memphis but had about 5-6 magical passes and is a physically very big PG. CDR is a nice pick up but seeing Jones really got me interested in what he could do long term.

[longtime lurker]

sure. when did we see this before.....?

What a douche thing to say...:no:

[el gringos]

He heard Calderon to Dallas and ran

[boozehound]

wait, so his statement indicates that he asked for this after the injury. the other report says this was in the works before the injury, but they asked him to hold on till they could get their ducks in a row. Another reason I dont trust this guy. Fake nice guy IMO.


Sure sure, Im a douche

[ShaqAttack3234]

Fisher was never a good enough player to warrant the fame he's gotten. He's been pretty mediocre for most of his career save for a hot streak here or there(2001 WCF). Actually, at times, he's been downright terrible.

[gilalizard]

maybe he senses potential coaching opportunity in lakerland

[TryToBeUnbias]

Think we could see Fisher coaching in the future ?

[chips93]

Fisher was never a good enough player to warrant the fame he's gotten. He's been pretty mediocre for most of his career save for a hot streak here or there(2001 WCF). Actually, at times, he's been downright terrible.


i believe in the 'clutch gene' idea less than most, but fisher has hit some huge shots in big moments, enough to negate his mediocrity for large, less meaningful games. he hit those 2 huge threes in orlando in the finals, to win them the game, he had that wild quarter (game 4 maybe?) in the 2010 finals, and hes hit plenty of other big shots. if i were a laker fan, i would be ok with him being a middling pg for much of the season, when i know he has a history of coming through in crunch time.

and on top of that, with the way this laker season has gone, it seems his leadership was pretty important.

[UtahJazzFan88]

I'd rather have Fish over Chris Duhon & Darius Morris, sure. But that isn't really saying much about Fish either.

[konex]

This is BS. They told him they were going to cut him and asked what story he'd like them to put out..

[shortsoptional]

This is BS. They told him they were going to cut him and asked what story he'd like them to put out..

Um... they signed him off the street and were instantly playing him 30 minutes a game. Fisher asked for this, not Dallas.

[konex]

Um... they signed him off the street and were instantly playing him 30 minutes a game. Fisher asked for this, not Dallas.

And he just hurt his knee and is the easiest player to waive

[Joshumitsu]

It's not because of his daughter's cancer or anything, right?

[ukballer]

And he just hurt his knee and is the easiest player to waive

Why would he make all that up? :rolleyes:

Fisher has always been a classy guy off the court.

[Sharmer]

I'm perplexed by this decision however I am sure he has legitimate reasons.

[MJ(Mean John)]

Idk. Sounds sketch.
But he did put up 37 pts. Crazy. Just enough for a contender to sign him.

Which sucks because they basically killed DC who was playing tremendous basketball.

[wang4three]

wait, so his statement indicates that he asked for this after the injury. the other report says this was in the works before the injury, but they asked him to hold on till they could get their ducks in a row. Another reason I dont trust this guy. Fake nice guy IMO.


Sure sure, Im a douche


You're not the only one who thinks this. I've been untrusting of Fisher's motives for some time. I'm sure he has a good heart, but I don't buy things he says with face value when it comes to business. Especially after Utah and what he was doing with the players' union.

[BlueandGold]

Fisher was never a good enough player to warrant the fame he's gotten. He's been pretty mediocre for most of his career save for a hot streak here or there(2001 WCF). Actually, at times, he's been downright terrible.
You believe this? His impact on that game could never be measured just in the box score.. he had such a wide variety of intangibles that he brought to the table that more than made up for his mediocre play on the stat sheet. He had a huge amount of grit too, led the league, as an undersized PG, in charges taken for like 3-5 consecutive seasons.

[ukballer]

I'm surprised they haven't looked to bring over Petteri Koponen yet. They got his rights from the Sixers last year.

[monkeypox]

You're not the only one who thinks this. I've been untrusting of Fisher's motives for some time. I'm sure he has a good heart, but I don't buy things he says with face value when it comes to business. Especially after Utah and what he was doing with the players' union.


You mean how he cold hartedly let the Jazz out of his bloated contract to sign with a struggling Lakers? Lol. And what was he doing with the players union? Trying to expose that Billy Hunter was using it to funnel money to his people? Yeah it was Derek Fisher under investigation from the US Attorneys office, and the one supposedly holding things up to keep getting paid. Holy crap. If you're not going to trust him, do it for the flopping. Don't go buy in to lies that bitter Jazz fans say. Their scumbag owner let this happen by not clearing things up after he left.

Here it is pretty simply. The specialist was in NYC, true. But his daughter only needed to see this Dr. once a year. The reason why he moved to LA because there were dr.s that needed to see her weekly. There were several locations he could have gone to yes. None of them were in Utah. But his wifes family (and yes that means his daughters family) hail from LA. So top dr.s that she needs to see weekly, family support, familiar team he can play on. Pretty simple.

Not for mongoloid Jazz fans apparently. The dude did you guys a favor by letting you out of his horrible contract. It's Karma what's happening to your team. I hope it never sniffs a title till this generation is at least over. Scumm.

[ILLsmak]

You're not the only one who thinks this. I've been untrusting of Fisher's motives for some time. I'm sure he has a good heart, but I don't buy things he says with face value when it comes to business. Especially after Utah and what he was doing with the players' union.

That's mainly why. You can't trust those guys. Fisher has an untrustworthy smile as well. It's too broad like he practices it.

-Smak

[nightprowler10]

I read an article yesterday that said he signed on with the Mavs with the understanding that Cuban would waive him at his request if he feels he needs to be with his family. There's really nothing to this IMO.

[ShaqAttack3234]

i believe in the 'clutch gene' idea less than most, but fisher has hit some huge shots in big moments, enough to negate his mediocrity for large, less meaningful games. he hit those 2 huge threes in orlando in the finals, to win them the game, he had that wild quarter (game 4 maybe?) in the 2010 finals, and hes hit plenty of other big shots. if i were a laker fan, i would be ok with him being a middling pg for much of the season, when i know he has a history of coming through in crunch time.

and on top of that, with the way this laker season has gone, it seems his leadership was pretty important.

The big shots are impressive, but I prefer to evaluate a player based on what a player does throughout a 48 minute game and an 82 game season. He was a good leader, I'll say that.


You believe this? His impact on that game could never be measured just in the box score.. he had such a wide variety of intangibles that he brought to the table that more than made up for his mediocre play on the stat sheet. He had a huge amount of grit too, led the league, as an undersized PG, in charges taken for like 3-5 consecutive seasons.

Who said I was judging him based on the box score? Robert Horry had pretty poor stats, but I always thought he was an excellent role player, regardless of the huge shots. He wasn't much of a scorer, but he was a good team defender, a solid rebounder, a good passer and he stretched the floor because he was a capable outside shooter and playing power forward(Lakers and Spurs Horry anyway.)

I'm not going to say Fisher couldn't do anything, but his name is simply brought up too much for a player of his caliber. Prior to 2001, he was a poor shooter, he never had the ball-handling skills to be a true point guard so you were left with a 6'1" combo guard who couldn't create his own shot and he had some of the worst shot selection I've ever seen. Plus, he couldn't finish to save his life and in the later part of his career he's been a defensive liability.

Now what he could do is hit clutch shots as everyone knows, and he was a good leader. As far as on the court skills, well, he became a good outside shooter from 2001 on, he knew where to be in the triangle, and he was a good defender for the first half of his career.

He's also talked about like he was a key player for all 5 of the championships he was a part of. He was a non-factor in 2000. After a disastrous regular season, he was demoted to being the 4th guard for the playoffs. He was great in the '01 playoffs, I'll give him that. He was absolutely horrendous in the '02 playoffs, though. As far as the last 2 titles, well, he was a solid role player for the '10 championship, so that's the other I'll give him along with '01. But '09? Yeah, he had the huge 3s in game 4 that really finished off Orlando, but I'm not going to excuse a whole playoff run of largely poor play on his part and say the Lakers wouldn't have won without him. I'd rather have a guard who plays better in general and chances are, I won't need a miracle shot or 2.