Seriously? C'Mon LA.

[HorryIsMyMVP]

Would the Lakers trade Kobe if they had the choice? 41 shots in Nash's return game and only reason the game was close was because he was cold? I just have to think if they could they would trade Kobe straight up for J-Rich. Or they just pretend Kobe isn't on the teams.

[FlashDwyaneWade3]

Would the Lakers trade Kobe if they had the choice? 41 shots in Nash's return game and only reason the game was close was because he was cold? I just have to think if they could they would trade Kobe straight up for J-Rich. Or they just pretend Kobe isn't on the teams.
Took 41 shots but made them when it counted in the 4th and OT.

[G-Funk]

Would the Lakers trade Kobe if they had the choice? 41 shots in Nash's return game and only reason the game was close was because he was cold? I just have to think if they could they would trade Kobe straight up for J-Rich. Or they just pretend Kobe isn't on the teams.

What? Lakers won cause he was was clutch as fawk in the fourth and ot, he had a horrible game if he would have scored his average Lakers blow them out.

[HorryIsMyMVP]

Took 41 shots but made them when it counted in the 4th and OT.
It would have been a blow out if he didn't take 41 shots. :facepalm He was the only player on the team who shot ineffectively.

[HardwoodLegend]

Took 41 shots but made them when it counted in the 4th and OT.

He's lucky... lucky his teammates were able to bail him out and keep them in the game. They made the crucial run when he was seated on the bench.

[FlashDwyaneWade3]

It would have been a blow out if he didn't take 41 shots. :facepalm He was the only player on the team who shot ineffectively.
It would've been a blow out if the Lakers didn't put any effort on defense is more like it.

[livingby3's]

Took 41 shots but made them when it counted in the 4th and OT.

yeah u could say he came up big but he was also the main reason why they were in a hole the first place

[Noob Saibot]

He's lucky... lucky his teammates were able to bail him out and keep them in the game. They made the crucial run when he was seated on the bench.

bingo, end the thread.

[FlashDwyaneWade3]

He's lucky... lucky his teammates were able to bail him out and keep them in the game. They made the crucial run when he was seated on the bench.
Teammates? You mean Metta? He brought them back. Then Kobe did the damage offensively even after Metta went to the bench.

[G-Funk]

It would have been a blow out if he didn't take 41 shots. :facepalm He was the only player on the team who shot ineffectively.


He doesn't take 41 shots every game, he averages 20 and makes half of them. If every game was as bad as tonights than u might have an argument.

[HardwoodLegend]

Teammates? You mean Metta? He brought them back. Then Kobe did the damage offensively even after Metta went to the bench.

No respect for Jordan Hill?

Dude was comin up big and establishing dominance down there.

[G-Funk]

He's lucky... lucky his teammates were able to bail him out and keep them in the game. They made the crucial run when he was seated on the bench.
He is lucky his teammates were alb to bail him out but they are lucky they had him after the fourth.

[9erempiree]

It would have been a blow out if he didn't take 41 shots. :facepalm He was the only player on the team who shot ineffectively.

no.

Him taking all those shots were trying to make up for Dwight's inability to do anything tonight.

[LakersFan626]

It would have been a blow out if he didn't take 41 shots. :facepalm He was the only player on the team who shot ineffectively.

Pau Gasol 4-11 9 points.

41 shots is too much but he's not the only one who shot poorly.

[RazorBaLade]

he usually shoots a lil better than 16-41

[rhythmic]

The team cut down the lead in the first 5 minutes of the 4th before Kobe returned. That was instrumental. That gave LA momentum and confidence, and a sense of urgency. Kobe hit some big shots late in the 4th and OT, but also missed some and took some ill-advised shots.

He definitely is not the reason LA won tonight; Nash, Hill and MWP were far more effective then him tonight. His performance in OT was big though.

[9erempiree]

Look at it this way. Howard took only 8 shots and a majority of those were put backs or alley oops.

He got into foul trouble earlier and couldn't get it going.

Look at it as Kobe taking Dwight's shots for him. I rather have Kobe shoot Dwight's attempts than Dwight.

No big deal. I counted 5 shots where he was bailing out the team because the shot clock was down and those ending the quarters. Like I said, I want Kobe to shoot than watching his stats, like the recent Lebron quotes.

[HardwoodLegend]

Like I said, I want Kobe to shoot than watching his stats, like the recent Lebron quotes.

Hahaha @ bringing LeBron into this outta nowhere

LeBron, the better player.

[NLZ]

Well berote the 4th he was shooting 28% or something.. finished 39-40%. Should of finished around 50%+ with 6-10 FT attempts, most of those shots weren't even close because you could argue that he was fouled/and or tried to sell it (resulting in a not close shot). To the poster above, Kobe doesn't care about his FG % like LeBron. LeBron will take less shots and more easier shots to do so, Kobe is obviously 10x more creative than LeBron and takes more chances (when it comes to scoring not overall play-making).

[ZenMaster]

He is lucky his teammates were alb to bail him out but they are lucky they had him after the fourth.

Cleaning up his own shit.

[flipogb]

around 10 of those shots wouldn't have counted if the refs called fouls for him, then hed end up at 45 - 50% fg

[livingby3's]

My biggest respect to Kobe Bryant. only he can command so much love and respect even after a horrid game. If this was Pau he would have been sentence to death and spot in public by the Media and the fans. Nash ain't going to be able to handle such heavy minutes during the regular season and be effective in the POs. Lakers better build on their rotations and plays on this win or they're not getting further than the second round. and I think I'm being generous there.

[shadow]

Pau Gasol 4-11 9 points.

41 shots is too much but he's not the only one who shot poorly.

Come on, seriously!?
You're going to compare 4-11 with 16 of 41.

[Nick Young]

My biggest respect to Kobe Bryant. only he can command so much love and respect even after a horrid game. If this was Pau he would have been sentence to death and spot in public by the Media and the fans. Nash ain't going to be able to handle such heavy minutes during the regular season and be effective in the POs. Lakers better build on their rotations and plays on this win or they're not getting further than the second round. and I think I'm being generous there.
19 shots in the paint and no foul calls.

Refs had it in for gawdbe last night.

[All Net]

Lets not act like this is the norm.. Nobody shot great but still not something you want to see.

[knicksman]

na i dont think so. i believe thats one of the conditions that pjax imposed

[ukballer]

Pau Gasol 4-11 9 points.

41 shots is too much but he's not the only one who shot poorly.

What? :oldlol:

4-11 isn't even in the same galaxy as 41 shots.

[shadow]

What? :oldlol:

4-11 isn't even in the same galaxy as 41 shots.
Oh but you don't understand. The refs screwed Kobe. He shoulda have a gazillion FTs so that makes it alright.

[amfirst]

He did fine. The reason y he shot more was because no one was hitting their shots.

[Heavincent]

I just have to think if they could they would trade Kobe straight up for J-Rich.

:biggums:

[DMV2]

He did fine. The reason y he shot more was because no one was hitting their shots.
I missed the game but it didn't look like it on the scorebox.

Nash: 5-8
Howard: 4-8
MWP: 7-13
Hill: 6-9
Meeks: 4-9
Morris: 3-7

Last 2 aren't even considered bad. Neither was Gasol's 4-11, 11 shots isn't enough to indicate a bad shooting night unless it's 1-11 or 2-11.

[Pursuer]

I missed the game but it didn't look like it on the scorebox.

Nash: 5-8
Howard: 4-8
MWP: 7-13
Hill: 6-9
Meeks: 4-9
Morris: 3-7

Last 2 aren't even considered bad. Neither was Gasol's 4-11, 11 shots isn't enough to indicate a bad shooting night unless it's 1-11 or 2-11.

I'm not trying to defend Kobe or bash Gasol here, but he was really ineffective last night. He made two good finishes and had a hard time finding team-mates and on some occasions couldn't make the passes he usually makes. Not to say he was a total negative, he made some great plays, but really he's obviously still not healthy/not in shape. Kobe was shooting so much, because he could get in the seams really well. There were, as I remember, at least 5 possessions where I questioned the referee's on their decision not to call the foul. But of course, you can't always blame the refs. 41 shots is 41 shots, most of them were good shots, there were some missed calls, but there's nothing to bash Kobe about here. He played team basketball, he just was aggressive last night, because with Nash on the floor, he knew he didn't necessarily have to pass up shots for his team-mates. And anyways, Nash wasn't full-strength so he had to take up more load. And that's not even mentioning the fact, that Howard was in foul trouble the whole game and had to play 15 mins(?) with 5 fouls.

[mentallooser]

LA would never forgive the Lakers if they did. Not even if they went on to win a championship. Just let it go.

[The Iron Fist]

It would have been a blow out if he didn't take 41 shots. :facepalm He was the only player on the team who shot ineffectively.
Paus 3-11 is effective?

[oh the horror]

Im sorry but this time, Kobe was wrong.


41 shots is RIDICULOUS on a team with Gasol, Dwight, Metta (that night had a hot hand) and Nash.


He damn near shot them out of that game folks. You saw it for yourselves, and I saw it.


I generally defend Kobe but this was just out of the norm.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

I dont mind anyone shooting 40+ shots ... as long as they're scoring 70+ points. :oldlol:

Yesterday was definitely an anomaly though. In this system with THESE players, the ball will be moved around and the shots will be distributed.

[Rysio]

you dont trade the best player in franchise history. :no:

[swi7ch]

Kobe always always always feels the need to establish himself as The Man even at the cost of winning. Kobe will be damned if the Lakers become Nash's team.

[DirtySanchez]

Agendas I'm sick of this crap.

The man looks to shoot that's how he has always played and has made a great career doing just that. He is a scorer and again down the stretch he hit his shots.

So annoying.

[White Mamba]

Kobe always always always feels the need to establish himself as The Man even at the cost of winning. Kobe will be damned if the Lakers become Nash's team.

:oldlol: :oldlol: Its kobe's team live with it.

Melo fire away with kid and felton, Kobe will keep fire with nash.

when the record will start look better no one will care about some game in December.

[TOUCH MY BODY]

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[Whoah10115]

There's nothing I'd rather see than Kobe being traded up for Jason Richardson...that would be the single greatest thing in world history.


OP is a special kind of stupid.

[daily]

Would the Lakers trade Kobe if they had the choice? 41 shots in Nash's return game and only reason the game was close was because he was cold? I just have to think if they could they would trade Kobe straight up for J-Rich. Or they just pretend Kobe isn't on the teams.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=284010

[Funnyfuka]

he made some godlike shots yesterday.

[Spaulding]

he made some godlike shots yesterday.

Sure out of 41 shots you are bound to have a couple awesome ones...

[Rooster]

Im sorry but this time, Kobe was wrong.


41 shots is RIDICULOUS on a team with Gasol, Dwight, Metta (that night had a hot hand) and Nash.


He damn near shot them out of that game folks. You saw it for yourselves, and I saw it.


I generally defend Kobe but this was just out of the norm.

same here. I don't mind if most of those shots are in the flow of the game. He was just chucking it. Jack got it going and he wanted to outshine him. The only good thing that will come out of his chucking is he might get into rhythm but not the team so likely another disappointing loss. I was so glad that he was in the bench at the start of the 4th and Nash was able to control the flow. That is the way it should be. When everyone is involved, it is so good to see.

[longtime lurker]

Would the Lakers trade Kobe if they had the choice? 41 shots in Nash's return game and only reason the game was close was because he was cold? I just have to think if they could they would trade Kobe straight up for J-Rich. Or they just pretend Kobe isn't on the teams.

Why are you still proposing this bullshit? Anyone with half a brain wouldn't take this proposal seriously. It's as simple as this, no Kobe no championship for the Lakers. I don't know about you but I'm not a fan of losing teams. This is typical Kobe hater behaviour blame Kobe when the team loses and somehow claim his teammates bailed him out when they win.

[HorryIsMyMVP]

Why are you still proposing this bullshit? Anyone with half a brain wouldn't take this proposal seriously. It's as simple as this, no Kobe no championship for the Lakers. I don't know about you but I'm not a fan of losing teams. This is typical Kobe hater behaviour blame Kobe when the team loses and somehow claim his teammates bailed him out when they win.

J-Rich is a better 3pt shooterand can catch alley oops. Kobe went like 0-8 on wide open 3's? I want Kobe to take the shots given to him and focus on individual defense. But that will never happen. So I think they should atleast get a SG that isn't a detriment to the system.

[longtime lurker]

J-Rich is a better 3pt shooterand can catch alley oops. Kobe went like 0-8 on wide open 3's? I want Kobe to take the shots given to him and focus on individual defense. But that will never happen. So I think they should atleast get a SG that isn't a detriment to the system.

Detrimental to the team? :facepalm the Lakers won jackass. J-Rich sucks. Face it no Kobe no championship, but you're not a LAkers fan so I wouldn't expect you to understand that.

[AussieG]

The reason Lakers won that game was because Kobe was on the bench in between the third and forth and the rest of the team went on a big run and gained momentum. The players got their confidence up and started playing on both ends. Then Kobe hit some clutch shots, but also missed some. Nash was more clutch and never seemed to miss when it mattered.

[HorryIsMyMVP]

Detrimental to the team? :facepalm the Lakers won jackass. J-Rich sucks. Face it no Kobe no championship, but you're not a LAkers fan so I wouldn't expect you to understand that.
Kobe put the Lakers in a giant hole. He missed like 25 shots in a row. They were down by double digits while his team was playing fine. And they caught back up without him on the court. I guess kudos to Kobe to hit a couple shots at the end even though he missed the game winner? He was bound to make a couple shots. He took 41!

[Scholar]

A lot of those 41 shots were fouls that referees weren't calling.

[HorryIsMyMVP]

A lot of those 41 shots were fouls that referees weren't calling.
Maybe they didn't feel a need to call it because they know he was going to miss anyway. In what universe do chuckers get the benefit of the doubt in road games? That is why you have to play smarter when you don't get calls. If you wanna bring up players getting non-calls. The refs turning on Iverson is what ended his career.

[Heavincent]

Kobe for Jason Richardson?

Seems legit.

[hihellohi765]

Interesting.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=&match=game&year_min=&year_max=&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=&opp_id=&is_playoffs=N&round_is_ec1=Y&round_is_ecs=Y&round_is_ecf=Y&round_is_wc1=Y&round_is_wcs=Y&round_is_wcf=Y&round_is_fin=Y&game_num_type=&game_num_min=&game_num_max=&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=fga&c1comp=gt&c1val=40&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=pts

[Jacks3]

30/5/5/2 on amazing efficiency for the season.

But they should consider trading him after one bad game.

:facepalm

****ing idiot.