Mo out indefinitely, Jazz "bigs" trade soon?

[DMV2]

[QUOTE]Orlando

[flipogb]

Duhon and Gasol

[kurple]

andre miller could be a very good fit in utah.

[DMV2]

Duhon and Gasol
We want an upgrade, not a downgrade. :lol

[dunksby]

Duhon and Gasol
:facepalm :roll:

[dunksby]

Maynor + Toronto pick for Big Al :oldlol:

[Real Men Wear Green]

If I'm running the Cs, Utah can have Bradley, Sullinger or Bass, a first and whoever it takes to make the money match for Big Al's return. Jefferson would fix a lot of what's wrong with the Cs.

[flipogb]

We want an upgrade, not a downgrade. :lol

you said PG, injury says desperation not upgrade , but hey I didnt say it was a good idea

[Rubio2Gasol]

Maybe Alec Burks might actually get some freaking burn.

[mehyaM24]

Kobe for Millsap straight up. LA needs a stretch 4,they can bring Pau off the bench too. Would Utah be willing to do this?

[TaLvsCuaL]

If not for his big contract Calderon would be a good target.

[DStebb716]

Not too many good ideas coming out of this thread. Andre Miller is a decent idea if they're willing to take scraps (he's old and not nearly worth guys like Millsap or Jefferson). Other than that the ideas are off.

[Rekindled]

they need to trade for Jimmer, its destiny

[ElPigto]

Rockets will give them Terrence Jones/Toney Douglas for Paul Millsap!! :lol

[Purch]

Trade both of them. Start building around Favors/Kanter now.


I kinda wanna trade with the Spurs cause I'm really high on that De Colo dude. Think the spurs found another gem

[goldenryan]

The Utah Jazz trade:

Paul Millsap
Gordon Hayward


to the Atlanta Hawks for:

Jeff Teague
Kyle Korver

[Purch]

The Utah Jazz trade:

Paul Millsap
Gordon Hayward


to the Atlanta Hawks for:

Jeff Teague
Kyle Korver


Helll no. :biggums:

[goldenryan]

Helll no. :biggums:
Ok then Jefferson for Bargs and 2nd rounder

[mrpibb]

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6186402

I don't think this is too bad at all, unless I am very much underrating Zaza's worth to the Hawks.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=c92r86h

[It's A VC3!!!]

MarShon Brooks, Kris Humphries a first rounder for Millsap and a filler. Maybe this can get to Nets management. Getting Hump makes no sense for them but they would love to get MarShon.

[Duderonomy]

MarShon Brooks, Kris Humphries a first rounder for Millsap and a filler. Maybe this can get to Nets management. Getting Hump makes no sense for them but they would love to get MarShon.
For that price I want Big Al.

[Rekindled]

Kanter+Milsap+for Cousins+Jimmer.

[It's A VC3!!!]

For that price I want Big Al.
We need a defender and rebounder alongside Brook. Billy should aggressively try to get Millsap or Al to make us a championship team.

[Myth]

The Jazz can have Ronnie Price back.

[Purch]

Kanter+Milsap+for Cousins+Jimmer.
Lol you're not getting Kanter. Especilly for a nutcase like Cousins :oldlol:

[Mamba]

mike miller + mario chalmers

for

paul millsap

[Whoah10115]

Millsap would probably do very well with the Knicks...and I'd love to send you Felton...tho I know none of this would work straight up.

[Whoah10115]

Lol you're not getting Kanter. Especilly for a nutcase like Cousins :oldlol:



Utah would win that trade in spades. In spades in spades in spades in spades.


DeMarcus Cousins playing on a good team, with Favors alongside him? You'd be on crack not to accept that deal. Completely crackified.

[andremiller07]

Utah would win that trade in spades. In spades in spades in spades in spades.


DeMarcus Cousins playing on a good team, with Favors alongside him? You'd be on crack not to accept that deal. Completely crackified.

I think if the Jazz wanted Cousins they would have drafted him, they were probably scared of but by the headcase thing.

[Whoah10115]

I think if the Jazz wanted Cousins they would have drafted him, they were probably scared of but by the headcase thing.


Well, seeing how good he is in the league they shouldn't be scared anymore. He had a great sophomore year. You bring him off the bench with Favors (maybe one of the two gets traded and Favors starts) and then you start him and Derrick Favors, together? They'd kill people.


Just for fun, try to trade Millsap and Burks and a draft pick and bring in Wall lol.

[El Kabong]

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6186402

I don't think this is too bad at all, unless I am very much underrating Zaza's worth to the Hawks.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=c92r86h
I mentioned before the Jazz should target guys like Teague and Blesdoe. Dunno if the Hawks want to extend Teague or not, but maybe they'd decide to go with Lou Williams at the point and have a Smith, Millsap, Horford frontline.

[DMV2]

Thunder fans, would you do a midseason rental trade?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=c36qows

All 3 guys will be off the books at the end of the season anyway.

[UtahJazzFan88]

Time to blow it up so we get a good draft pick!

[mrpibb]

Thunder fans, would you do a midseason rental trade?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=c36qows

All 3 guys will be off the books at the end of the season anyway.

I don't think they'd let Martin go.

[talkingconch]

Kobe for Millsap straight up. LA needs a stretch 4,they can bring Pau off the bench too. Would Utah be willing to do this?
lmao

[El Kabong]

I don't think they'd let Martin go.
Thunder might do Perkins + Maynor + Pick, but the last two years of Perkins contract are pretty ugly. Perkins would be a decent backup for Kanter, but paying $9 million for a backup C is a bit rich.

[DMV2]

I don't think they'd let Martin go.
They might not even have him after the season though. Utah might not have Al either after this season.

OKC needs low-post scoring this season. Jefferson would be the answer.
Utah needs a backcourt right now. Martin and Maynor would be the answer.

[mrpibb]

Is there any particular reason OKC needs anything right now?

[DMV2]

Is there any particular reason OKC needs anything right now?
For the playoffs. Perkins, Ibaka, Collison were decimated by Bosh in the Finals. They still need to upgrade their PF/C rotation.

[mrpibb]

Al wouldn't do much better against Bosh either. The only thing he's got going for him is he can score on the other end, but he's not even the best option for that.

[Xiao Yao You]

Mo Williams had been so great for the Jazz backcourt but now it looks like he's out for a long time, maybe for the season.

The Jazz will need a replacement if they want to make the playoffs. Tinsley is their only true PG right now so they'll need to another PG. Foye is just a 3-pointer, LOL. And Burks is more of a shooting guard.

So who can Utah get for Jefferson or Millsap?

Watson is a true pg but he looks like shit.


If not for his big contract Calderon would be a good target.

He makes less than Al and a bit more than Millsap I believe and they all have expiring contracts. He's the guy I'd think and if Bargani is really being shopped Al makes a lot of sense in Toronto. Who wants the Italian is the question?


http://basketball.realgm.com/tradech..._trade/6186402

I don't think this is too bad at all, unless I am very much underrating Zaza's worth to the Hawks.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=c92r86h

The Hawks want to trade Teague to have Millsap come off the bench behing Horford and Smith?


MarShon Brooks, Kris Humphries a first rounder for Millsap and a filler. Maybe this can get to Nets management. Getting Hump makes no sense for them but they would love to get MarShon.

They would? They already have Burks at the end of their bench. Brooks doesn't have a high basketball IQ does he?


We need a defender and rebounder alongside Brook. Billy should aggressively try to get Millsap or Al to make us a championship team.

Al isn't a defender.


Millsap would probably do very well with the Knicks...and I'd love to send you Felton...tho I know none of this would work straight up.

After last season Jazz wouldn't want Felton.


Utah would win that trade in spades. In spades in spades in spades in spades.

DeMarcus Cousins playing on a good team, with Favors alongside him? You'd be on crack not to accept that deal. Completely crackified.

They'd never do it. If he was on their team he would have already been traded. They wouldn't put up with his shit as long as the Kings have. I was surprised to read that they had interest last year when there were trade rumors about him.


I think if the Jazz wanted Cousins they would have drafted him, they were probably scared of but by the headcase thing.

He was already gone. They tried to trade up for him or Monroe supposedly. Monroe would have been a great fit.


Just for fun, try to trade Millsap and Burks and a draft pick and bring in Wall lol.

Wall could be great but I don't see it happening.


I mentioned before the Jazz should target guys like Teague and Blesdoe. Dunno if the Hawks want to extend Teague or not, but maybe they'd decide to go with Lou Williams at the point and have a Smith, Millsap, Horford frontline.

Can't see it and Clipps are hanging onto Bledsoe for the time being I'd imagine.


Thunder fans, would you do a midseason rental trade?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=c36qows

All 3 guys will be off the books at the end of the season anyway.

That one makes some sense but do they want to trade Martin away? Do the Jazz even like Maynor? They gave him away once.


Time to blow it up so we get a good draft pick!

Which draft are you talking? The upcoming one is supposed to be horrible.


They might not even have him after the season though. Utah might not have Al either after this season.

OKC needs low-post scoring this season. Jefferson would be the answer.
Utah needs a backcourt right now. Martin and Maynor would be the answer.

They better not have Al back! Martin and Maynor are an answer not sure they are the answer.

To me Calderon looks like their guy. Who wants Bargani?

[dunksby]

Martin is our spark off the bench so aint gonna let him go obviously, we need to add a piece not replace one for another. Big Al is a very good low post scorer but with Ibaka hitting his shots we have 1- Durant 2- Westbrook 3- Martin 4- Ibaka scoring and sharing the ball so not much space for another offensive player. I'd trade for Gortat, Noah or even R.Lopez.

[poido123]

Martin is our spark off the bench so aint gonna let him go obviously, we need to add a piece not replace one for another. Big Al is a very good low post scorer but with Ibaka hitting his shots we have 1- Durant 2- Westbrook 3- Martin 4- Ibaka scoring and sharing the ball so not much space for another offensive player. I'd trade for Gortat, Noah or even R.Lopez.

Obviously that is nice in theory and purely a pipedream...

Why would Bulls trade Noah at all? Unless your giving up durant, there isnt any other player Noah is worth trading for on your team that Bulls need or want. We are not going to trade Noah for scraps, that's for sure.

[dunksby]

Obviously that is nice in theory and purely a pipedream...

Why would Bulls trade Noah at all? Unless your giving up durant, there isnt any other player Noah is worth trading for on your team that Bulls need or want. We are not going to trade Noah for scraps, that's for sure.
lol why so defensive dude? I aint Presti, I was just naming centers who could actually help.

[poido123]

lol why so defensive dude? I aint Presti, I was just naming centers who could actually help.

Well, same reaction you would get if people started bringing up Durant and Westbrook in trades. You would be asking people to stop smoking crack...:lol

[chains5000]

Trade both of them. Start building around Favors/Kanter now.


I kinda wanna trade with the Spurs cause I'm really high on that De Colo dude. Think the spurs found another gem
Like his game but I don't think he's that good to be thought of as being a big part of a trade. IMO he'll be a good backup, no more.
(I've only watched him play in Europe, never in NBA games)

[barkleynash]

Bargs and Calderon and pietrus for Jefferson and burks

[Xiao Yao You]

Jazz don't need Bargs. Need a 3rd team. Not sure anyone needs him though? A highly paid stretch big that does little else.

[DMV2]

Bargs and Calderon and pietrus for Jefferson and burks
What about this: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=c7rfepv

Barg, Lowry, JLIII for Jefferson and Burks

[Rubio2Gasol]

What about this: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=c7rfepv

Barg, Lowry, JLIII for Jefferson and Burks

Why would they trade Lowry?

Don't get me wrong I like Burks but trading Lowry makes no sense. Calderon would make infinitely more sense.

[DMV2]

Why would they trade Lowry?

Don't get me wrong I like Burks but trading Lowry makes no sense. Calderon would make infinitely more sense.
Because I want him instead of Calderon. :lol

[Real Men Wear Green]

Why would they trade Lowry?

Don't get me wrong I like Burks but trading Lowry makes no sense. Calderon would make infinitely more sense.
There has to be some real value to go after Big Al. The original deal isn't that good. Take out Lowry? Yuck.

[Xiao Yao You]

Why would they trade Lowry?

Don't get me wrong I like Burks but trading Lowry makes no sense. Calderon would make infinitely more sense.

You'd think but rumor has it they want to keep Calderon and deal Lowry.

Why would the Jazz want Bargnani or Lucas? They'd have 5 pg's and have to cut someone.

[blablabla]

the Kings could use Millsap, not sure what the they can trade tho

[alenleomessi]

millsap or big al for tyreke?

[andremiller07]

millsap or big al for tyreke?

For the Kings to have a good use for Milsap would mean us having to trade Jason Thompson/Thomas Robinson as well as Tyreke. Without moving JT/T-Rob moving Tyreke straight up for Big Al/Milsap is pointless we don't really get better as a team since Tyreke is the only legit shot creator we have on the wing/guard spot.

I would love Milsap over JT ad JT can back up Favours/Kanter but unless we can get a scoring/creating SG/SF in return I say no. Evans when he has not been injured and running the point has excelled this year.

The only way they might do Milsap/Big Al for Evans is if they move Cousins first.

[wally_world]

they need to trade for Jimmer, its destiny

I'd say thats quite possible.

As a Thunder fan,

Al Jefferson + Marvin Williams + Tinsley + Bell
for
Perkins + Kevin Martin + Reggie Jackson + Toronto's Pick

Mo Williams / Reggie Jackson / Earl Watson
Kev Martin / Foye / Burks
Hayward / Carroll
Millsap / Favors / Evans
Perkins / Kanter

Westbrook / Maynor / Tinsley
Sefolosha / Lamb / Bell
Durant / Marvin Williams
Ibaka / Collison / PJ3
Jefferson / Thabeet

Utah gets a lottery pick to build for the future. Jackson is a good PG to start until Mo returns, and is cheap for another 2 years. Martin is an expirer and a short term solution at SG. Perk, though regarded useless by most, is a solid lockerroom presence to help Utah make the playoffs. He also warrants less minutes/shots to make room for the growth of Favors/Kanter. His contract is bad, but Marvin Williams makes more (but for one less year).

Thunders get the low-post scoring big they lack. Tinsley is a veteran looking to win a chip. Marvin Williams is a solid backup. Raja Bell can be useful if he can revitalize his career with a contender, could end up being a terrific pick up. Bell being a proven playoff performer is also an insurance in case Lamb doesnt pan out.

[Vancouver-Grizz]

The Answer is the Answer!!!

Sign AI.... He will be a great hit with the morms....

Get it done!

[Xiao Yao You]

I'd say thats quite possible.

As a Thunder fan,

Al Jefferson + Marvin Williams + Tinsley + Bell
for
Perkins + Kevin Martin + Reggie Jackson + Toronto's Pick

Mo Williams / Reggie Jackson / Earl Watson
Kev Martin / Foye / Burks
Hayward / Carroll
Millsap / Favors / Evans
Perkins / Kanter

Westbrook / Maynor / Tinsley
Sefolosha / Lamb / Bell
Durant / Marvin Williams
Ibaka / Collison / PJ3
Jefferson / Thabeet

Utah gets a lottery pick to build for the future. Jackson is a good PG to start until Mo returns, and is cheap for another 2 years. Martin is an expirer and a short term solution at SG. Perk, though regarded useless by most, is a solid lockerroom presence to help Utah make the playoffs. He also warrants less minutes/shots to make room for the growth of Favors/Kanter. His contract is bad, but Marvin Williams makes more (but for one less year).

Thunders get the low-post scoring big they lack. Tinsley is a veteran looking to win a chip. Marvin Williams is a solid backup. Raja Bell can be useful if he can revitalize his career with a contender, could end up being a terrific pick up. Bell being a proven playoff performer is also an insurance in case Lamb doesnt pan out.

I like it other than Perkins. He makes it a no. The whole idea of getting rid of Jefferson is to play the young guys not pay a 4th big more money than the 3 ahead of him(at least until Millsap gets his money next year and Favors the next. Marvin has an ETO which makes him a possible expirer too. The lottery is for the next draft right? Supposed to be a horrible draft! I doubt Oklahoma wants to get rid of Martin right now anyway.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bm9ymdl