CP3 in the MVP race is laughable

[konex]

First of all, I'm not sure he's the best player on the team. Second, they are winning cos they are stacked with talent. No one guy is carrying this team and they'd keep rolling if CP3, Blake or anyone else missed time. They have no post game but that's about the only weakness...

Clippers advanced stats through 12/18

http://www.82games.com/1213/1213LAC.HTM

[lebeast666]

lol I'd have to agree. Only few ppl in league have a chance at MVP and he is not one of them.

[Whoah10115]

Hickson is close tho.

[Noob Saibot]

True and yet this is what Chris Paul wanted, some quality players around him who can get hot on their own even if he's not on the floor.

[TMT]

Lebron won it with a stacked team, so why can't Paul?
As long as the Clips are at the top of the West CP3 is a legit MVP candidate, there's no disputing that.

[TheBigVeto]

He's more deserving than Kobe.

[LemonMan]

most valuable player
without chris paul, the Clippers wouldn't have gotten to this point in the first place

[konex]

Lebron won it with a stacked team, so why can't Paul?
As long as the Clips are at the top of the West CP3 is a legit MVP candidate, there's no disputing that.

Bron's team was stacked but he was still carrying them. CP3 winning this year would be even worse than Nash IMO

[IGotACoolStory]

most valuable player
without chris paul, the Clippers wouldn't have gotten to this point in the first place

Who deserved the MVP in 2006?

[TylerOO]

Lebron won it with a stacked team, so why can't Paul?
As long as the Clips are at the top of the West CP3 is a legit MVP candidate, there's no disputing that.

Because LeBron posted ridiculous stats, is easily the best player on the planet, and they were like 11-1 without Wade. Chris Paul is doing nothing special in the box score and stats matter a lot when deciding the MVP

[joeyjoejoe]

Mvp usually goes to best player on a team with one of leagues best record, sounds about right to me, kobe being in talks is ridiculous with sub .500 record, the year kobe got mvp cp was clearly better

[TMT]

Bron's team was stacked but he was still carrying them. CP3 winning this year would be even worse than Nash IMO

Without Lebron you still have a previous Finals MVP and superstar power forward. Without CP3 who makes this Clippers squad get rolling? Jamal Crawford? Blake? :confusedshrug:

[TylerOO]

most valuable player
without chris paul, the Clippers wouldn't have gotten to this point in the first place

MVP aren't decided by value, regardless of what the V stands for. You could say the same about almost every star in the league. Dumb post.

[yobore]

CP did too good a job as GM this offseason to win MVP

[konex]

Without Lebron you still have a previous Finals MVP and superstar power forward. Without CP3 who makes this Clippers squad get rolling? Jamal Crawford? Blake? :confusedshrug:

http://www.82games.com/1213/1213LAC.HTM

Apparently Bledsoe and Craword

[Al Thornton]

they wouldn't be capable of being one of the best teams if he wasn't on the roster. same can't be said about any other player on the team.

[TylerOO]

http://www.82games.com/1213/1213LAC.HTM

Apparently Bledsoe and Craword

Holy ****. I clicked on that link and just clicked on Bledsoes name, and I have literally no clue what half the stats showing up mean. WTF is eFG%? Shot clock usage shit? Is there a legend on this site or something?

[TMT]

http://www.82games.com/1213/1213LAC.HTM

Apparently Bledsoe

:rolleyes: really?

Let's be real, there's a reason why the Clippers didn't make the playoffs with BG and Eric Gordon. CP3 immediately changes the atmosphere of the game. Without him they would not be playing this show time ball and that's a given.

[yobore]

OK so he's not shooting great in a blowout. He's still leading the league in WS per 48, #2 in win shares, #3 in offensive rating #2 RAPM #3 in PER etc.

[red1]

cp3 is not winning mvp over the three forwards this year

[Al Thornton]

he would never win anyway because his numbers are never mvp level and he doesn't ever try to get them there. he would rather get teammates involved and pace himself for playoffs than put up huge numbers every night in the regular season.

[konex]

Let's be real, there's a reason why the Clippers didn't make the playoffs with BG and Eric Gordon.

Yeah, they weren't as deep as they are now and those guys were very young


CP3 immediately changes the atmosphere of the game. Without him they would not be playing this show time ball and that's a give

I'm just looking at the stats and what I see happening when I watch the games. This is a true TEAM and that's great but they don't deserve an MVP candidate just because they are good..

[DonDadda59]

Clippers were the laughing stock of the NBA before CP3 got there, and yes Blake Griffin was on those teams putting up empty stats. Now they're working on a 15 game win streak. The Clippers are the best team in LA and it's not even close.

Read that last sentence back and tell me anyone who said that before the season started wouldn't have been laughed off the internet. Paul is the engine and floor general, the team goes nowhere without him... or actually they go back to being the same ol' Clippers :lol

[notatop29pg]

Needs to focus more on his own stats before he is in consideration. Unfortunately.

[knickswin]

he would never win anyway because his numbers are never mvp level and he doesn't ever try to get them there. he would rather get teammates involved and pace himself for playoffs than put up huge numbers every night in the regular season.

that's true but he's also not that great a scorer. too short and he doesn't have the speed to make up for it.

edit: when I say "not great" I mean not in the league of lebron, carmelo, durant, kobe, wade, and rose and arguably a few others (healthy dirk, maybe westbrook, maybe tony parker)

[DonDadda59]

Needs to focus more on his own stats before he is in consideration. Unfortunately.

That's silly IMO. There are plenty of guys who focus on their own stats, even on stacked teams like Paul's, and that doesn't translate to win. The guy is clearly capable of being a 20+ PPG guy, but he's smart enough to realize that he has thoroughbreds on his team and his playmaking is much more valuable than him potentially shotjacking. 9.5 APG in 33 MPG is impressive, but a lot of people think MVP=more PPG.

[notatop29pg]

:roll:
that's true but he's also not that great a scorer. too short and he doesn't have the speed to make up for it.

He can score whenever he wants.

[Al Thornton]

that's true but he's also not that great a scorer. too short and he doesn't have the speed to make up for it.

edit: when I say "not great" I mean not in the league of lebron, carmelo, durant, kobe, wade, and rose and arguably a few others (healthy dirk, maybe westbrook, maybe tony parker)

i see what you mean but if he wanted to he could average 22-25 ppg easily. just the points wouldn't come as naturally as they do for durant or lebron.

[Lebron23]

Without Lebron you still have a previous Finals MVP and superstar power forward. Without CP3 who makes this Clippers squad get rolling? Jamal Crawford? Blake? :confusedshrug:


Read Tyler posts. Miami were 11-1 without Wade last season. LeBron's numbers > CP3.

[notatop29pg]

That's silly IMO. There are plenty of guys who focus on their own stats, even on stacked teams like Paul's, and that doesn't translate to win. The guy is clearly capable of being a 20+ PPG guy, but he's smart enough to realize that he has thoroughbreds on his team and his playmaking is much more valuable than him potentially shotjacking. 9.5 APG in 33 MPG is impressive, but a lot of people think MVP=more PPG.

It is silly. But it's true.

And that's sad. He's playing 32 mins a game, with the extra 5-6 mins a game that Rondo etc play he'd be sitting on 21/4/12/3 and would be a legit favourite.

[TMT]

Yeah, they weren't as deep as they are now and those guys were very young

Obviously the depth, but they had no one leading the charge. Depth can only take you do far if you don't have a leader and floor general to put all the pieces together and make it work.




I'm just looking at the stats and what I see happening when I watch the games. This is a true TEAM and that's great but they don't deserve an MVP candidate just because they are good..

Unfortunately stats dictate the game nowadays, much more than intangibles and the factors that don't appear in the box score. The fact is that if you take CP3 away, regardless of the teams depth, they would be a bottom half seed in the West and most likely be a first round out. Like someone earlier in this thread said, I don't think any other team in the league right now is going to be hurt more by the loss of a single player than the Clips would be without Paul. And that's really all it comes down to, he's the Clippers most valuable player and if they get a top 2 seed his name will obviously be up there. (IMO they would probably need the #1 overall record for him to actually win it, but we're talking about him being in the conversation not taking the hardware home)

[knickswin]

i see what you mean but if he wanted to he could average 22-25 ppg easily. just the points wouldn't come as naturally as they do for durant or lebron.

I'm not so sure ... it's just not so easy for him to create his shot ... before he messed his knee up in 2009 maybe, but he just doesn't have the electric quickness to compensate for his height anymore ... he is amazing at maintaining his dribble and making plays in the paint, but creating space is hard for him

[TMT]

Read Tyler posts. Miami were 11-1 without Wade last season. LeBron's numbers > CP3.

Because they were the most stacked team in basketball. Lebron + Bosh alone makes them championship contenders.

[knickswin]

lebron is soooooooo much better than cp3 it's not even funny ... they're not even in the same league ....

[Al Thornton]

I'm not so sure ... it's just not so easy for him to create his shot ... before he messed his knee up in 2009 maybe, but he just doesn't have the electric quickness to compensate for his height anymore ... he is amazing at maintaining his dribble and making plays in the paint, but creating space is hard for him

i think he has proven he can do it by putting up 20+ a game consistently in the playoffs.

[Lebron23]

Durant will win his first MVP Award this year if the OKC Thunder finish with the top 3 record in the NBA.

[notatop29pg]

lebron is soooooooo much better than cp3 it's not even funny ... they're not even in the same league ....

Pound for pound, inch for inch? A 6'8 cp3 would be nice :)

[DonDadda59]

It is silly. But it's true.

And that's sad. He's playing 32 mins a game, with the extra 5-6 mins a game that Rondo etc play he'd be sitting on 21/4/12/3 and would be a legit favourite.

He's sitting those extra minutes because he puts his team in a position where they have big leads and he can chill the rest of the game. If he's needed for more minutes and he's jacking up stupid shots, then that means the Clippers go back to being the same pathetic team they were before he got there. If the MVP award was about empty stats, Kevin Love would be sitting on 2 and Kobe would be a favorite.

[Lebron23]

lebron is soooooooo much better than cp3 it's not even funny ... they're not even in the same league ....


+1

Current CP3 is not even as good as 2011 Derrick Rose. He deserves a spot in the all NBA first team.

[notatop29pg]

He's sitting those extra minutes because he puts his team in a position where they have big leads and he can chill the rest of the game. If he's needed for more minutes and he's jacking up stupid shots, then that means the Clippers go back to being the same pathetic team they were before he got there. If the MVP award was about empty stats, Kevin Love would be battling Kobe right now for his 2nd straight.

I'm agreeing with you...

He should be a contender, but isn't because the award is a popularity/stats contest.

[TMT]

Durant will win his first MVP Award this year if the OKC Thunder finish with the top 3 record in the NBA.

You have to be one of the worst posters on this board. No discussion whatsoever. When outmatched you just resort to:

"Miami Heat are the reigning EC and NBA champs"
"Lebron is the second player to get MVP, FMVP, gold metal"

:facepalm Wow, you can state facts. Congratulations.

[devin112]

Some people can't stop thinking about the Clippers. Clippers are in their heads I guess.

[TylerOO]

Some people can't stop thinking about the Clippers. Clippers are in their heads I guess.

Well, they are kinda playing right now and most people posting are also watching the game. Idiot.

[notatop29pg]

+1

Current CP3 is not even as good as 2011 Derrick Rose.

Who couldn't hold a candle to 08 CP3.

MVP is no better than Allstar voting. It will be Durante this year, to enhance the LeBron rivalry/marketing.

Scripted award.

[TylerOO]

Who couldn't hold a candle to 08 CP3.

MVP is no better than Allstar voting. It will be Durante this year, to enhance the LeBron rivalry/marketing.

Scripted award.

So we have to go back to when Bush was President to show when CP3 was good? :lol

[notatop29pg]

So we have to go back to when Bush was President to show when CP3 was good? :lol

2 other past winners stats in their winning seasons were mentioned prior... So I guess that opens it for discussion.

[Bigsmoke]

his numbers aren't impressive because the Clippers are blowing ****** out all the time.

look how many minutes LeBron, Durant, and Melo play and look at Chris Paul's minutes.

[TylerOO]

2 other past winners stats in their winning seasons were mentioned prior... So I guess that opens it for discussion.

I was just joking around :lol

[knickswin]

i think he has proven he can do it by putting up 20+ a game consistently in the playoffs.

but he doesn't really do that ... averaged 22 ppg in 2011, but that was a 6 game series against the lakers, who pretty much let any and every point guard rape them anyway ...only averaged 17.6 ppg last year in the postseason with 5 games with fewer than 15 points ...

like I said, he is different now than he was in 2008, 2009, he used to be iversonesque in his quickness, now not so much and it affects how easily he can get his own

I like paul and I would probably take him over any point guard in the league for the knicks if I could

I dunno, nash and kidd were not 20 ppg guys but they were mvp worthy in my opinion, but to me they actually brought quite a bit more outside of scoring than paul does ...

[TMT]

him numbers aren't impressive because the Clippers are blowing ****** out all the time.

look how many minutes LeBron, Durant, and Melo play and look at Chris Paul's minutes.

Very true. He and Tony Parker are in the same boat.
Just look at the game playing right now. Paul hasn't stepped on the floor in the 4th.

[knickswin]

Pound for pound, inch for inch? A 6'8 cp3 would be nice :)

yeah, but what game is that? a 6'8 nate robinson would tear up the league ...

[notatop29pg]

but he doesn't really do that ... averaged 22 ppg in 2011, but that was a 6 game series against the lakers, who pretty much let any and every point guard rape them anyway ...only averaged 17.6 ppg last year in the postseason with 5 games with fewer than 15 points ...

like I said, he is different now than he was in 2008, 2009, he used to be iversonesque in his quickness, now not so much and it affects how easily he can get his own

I like paul and I would probably take him over any point guard in the league for the knicks if I could

I dunno, nash and kidd were not 20 ppg guys but they were mvp worthy in my opinion, but to me they actually brought quite a bit more outside of scoring than paul does ...

I'm struggling to figure out exactly where you stand :) (No offense)

I haven't seen enough Kidd and Nash, but I struggle to see what more he could do? He sometimes takes the 'getting others involved' a bit too far.

As for how he's evolved... I think he just realised that as a barely 6 foot guard, you NEED to involve the other guys if you're gonna go the distance. It's to easy to lock out a small guy. It's different if your 6'5 plus.

[plUto or bUst]

yeah, but what game is that? a 6'8 nate robinson would tear up the league ...

6'8 Nate robinson would be Lebron without a brain.

[knickswin]

So we have to go back to when Bush was President to show when CP3 was good? :lol

yeah, I feel as though it is not acknowledged that cp3 took a serious step back with his knee injury ...

he is a pretty great game manager ... I would actually put him in a tier below nash and kidd, but pretty great nonetheless ... but what made him really great was he used to be a pretty effortless scorer too because he was as fast as anyone ... now he isn't that type of scorer and I feel as though he is never going to be in contention for best player in the league

[devin112]

Well, they are kinda playing right now and most people posting are also watching the game. Idiot.

Everyday there are 2-3 troll threads about them moron. U think if they weren't playing people would stop trolling?

[notatop29pg]

yeah, but what game is that? a 6'8 nate robinson would tear up the league ...

Just responding to the LeBron is better post. Of course he is, he has no physical limitations.

[plUto or bUst]

He's the best player on (currently) the best team in the league. How is he not in the MVP race?

[knickswin]

6'8 Nate robinson would be Lebron without a brain.

yeah except nate's considerably faster and has even bigger ups than lebron, so 6'8 nate would be an inhuman freak

[knickswin]

Just responding to the LeBron is better post. Of course he is, he has no physical limitations.

well, physical limitation are what they are ... this stuff isn't graded on a curve ...nba players are tall for a reason

[Young X]

but he doesn't really do that ... averaged 22 ppg in 2011, but that was a 6 game series against the lakers, who pretty much let any and every point guard rape them anyway ...only averaged 17.6 ppg last year in the postseason with 5 games with fewer than 15 points ...
He averaged 20 last season, and averaged 23.5 in the playoffs before he got injured. :confusedshrug:

[TylerOO]

Everyday there are 2-3 troll threads about them moron. U think if they weren't playing people would stop trolling?

Welcome to ISH. They are troll threads everyday about all the good teams.

[knickswin]

He averaged 20 last season, and averaged 23.5 in the playoffs before he got injured. :confusedshrug:

he averaged 17.6 ppg last season: (edit: last postseason)

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/paulch01.html

and how does the "before he got injured" stuff matter??? he did get injured, and he's not the same player anymore ...

[Bigsmoke]

he averaged 17.6 ppg last season:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/paulch01.html

and how does the "before he got injured" stuff matter??? he did get injured, and he's not the same player anymore ...

i think he was referring to the playoffs from last year.

CP3 was averaging like 23 a game until he got hurt in game 5

[yobore]

he averaged 17.6 ppg last season:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/paulch01.html

and how does the "before he got injured" stuff matter??? he did get injured, and he's not the same player anymore ...
He's not talking about the camera injury. Paul had an injury LAST SEASON that required surgery this summer before the Olympics. He shot like crap with it. Paul's postseason stats are skewed by the fact he was playing very injured in 2 out of 4 runs. In the other 2 (1 of them post knee surgery) he was a monster

[knickswin]

cp3 is not winning mvp over the three forwards this year

that is how I feel ... lebron, melo, and kd are averaging wayyyy more ppg than paul (I mean, melo and durant are averaging 13 more ppg!) ... they also all lead their teams in scoring and +/- which chris paul does not ... paul is a very good game manager, but he is not the handful that those three are ...

[Sarcastic]

If the voters want the best overall player, they will vote Lebron. If the voters want the guy with the best statistics, they will vote Durant. If the voters want the guy who is doing the most with the least amount of help, they will vote Carmelo. If the voters want the guy on the team with the best record, they will vote CP3.

[Darius]

CP3 isn't about stats. He is about leadership. He changed the entire org. from the FO on down

[The Nets]

With CP3 the Clippers are top contenders, without him they are a lottery team like they used to be.

[Kiddlovesnets]

Konex said it, perhaps he will win MVP then.
:rockon:

[TheCalmInsanity]

MVP aren't decided by value, regardless of what the V stands for. You could say the same about almost every star in the league. Dumb post.

LOL!

Most VALUABLE player isn't decided by value.

So the Most IMPROVED player has nothing to do with improvement either?

Regardless, the Most Valuable Player is often the best player on the best team. And right now, Chris Paul is just that. We'll see how it looks at the end of the season.

[jimmy77x]

15/9/3 is considered mvp worthy now :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Lebron23]

He's 3rd in the MVP Race as of December 28, 2012.

http://www.nba.com/mvp-ladder/2012-13/index.html

[TeamLAC]

15/9/3 is considered mvp worthy now :roll: :roll: :roll:
perfect example of someone who doesnt know anything about basketball

[jimmy77x]

perfect example of someone who doesnt know anything about basketball

Haha You're barking up the wrong tree with that one. You really dont know who you are talking too :lol but ok if you say so, 15/9/3 points mvp worthy :bowdown: :bowdown:

[BG32-KD35]

You really dont know who you are talking too :lol:
Badass over here

[konex]

I would put Curry higher in the MVP race than CP3 :bowdown:

[TylerOO]

I would put Curry higher in the MVP race than CP3 :bowdown:

Without a doubt. I thought that was given. There are people that think otherwise?

[Young X]

CP3 with 30 pts, 13 asts, 6 rebs, 2 stls, clutch shot over Kobe. :bowdown:

I would put Curry higher in the MVP race than CP3 :bowdown:
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[LoneyROY7]

ROFL konex.

[pauk]

The Konex curse... again... its inevitable :oldlol:

[konex]

He had a nice game. Other guys have to do that every night...

[The Iron Fist]

Dude is MVP right now and should have been last year.

[DonDadda59]

The Konex curse... again... its inevitable :oldlol:

The Curse was manufactured by the same people that make Colt 45 :oldlol:

http://www.liverbashers.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/colt45WEB.jpg

[konex]

Dude is MVP right now and should have been last year.

Durant is MVP IMO. That said, CP3 has been amazing the last 2 games

[Money 23]

CP3 with 30 pts, 13 asts, 6 rebs, 2 stls, clutch shot over Kobe. :bowdown:

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
Seriously.

:pimp:

[jimmy77x]

Melo with the better mvp performance tonight with 40/6/6 but people continue to slurp cp3 every time he has a good game.

[montaownedu]

Lebron is clearly the MVP, but you're all just bored with him because he won it last year.

[DonDadda59]

Lebron is clearly the MVP, but you're all just bored with him because he won it last year.

Yup. The Michael Jordan effect.

[joeyjoejoe]

Melo with the better mvp performance tonight with 40/6/6 but people continue to slurp cp3 every time he has a good game.


Melo with 40 on 14/29 fg 6 rbnds 6 assists in 45 minutes
Cp with 27 on 10/12 fg 5 rbnds 9 assists in 28 minutes

Cp's game>>>>>>>melo's game

[francesco totti]

Melo with the better mvp performance tonight with 40/6/6 but people continue to slurp cp3 every time he has a good game.


its worth to note, this is melo's highest assists this year. 6.
One things his game lacks not just compared to lebron..but even durant.

[jimmy77x]

its worth to note, this is melo's highest assists this year. 6.
One things his game lacks not just compared to lebron..but even durant.

Well he gets alot of hockey assist and doesn't need to average assist like lebron does. That why the knicks have what are called point guards to do that its not the small forwards job to try and average 10 assist. People think because lebron likes to pad his stats due to ball domination everyone must average what he does.

[ZaaaaaH]

Melo with the better mvp performance tonight with 40/6/6 but people continue to slurp cp3 every time he has a good game.


Keep on slurppin that haterade :lol

CP3 went HAM they had to sit him the Whole 4thQ


Warriors > Magic


CP3 > Melo tonight get off the Haterade

[Clippersfan86]

I would put Curry higher in the MVP race than CP3 :bowdown:

Konex says this after last game, this time they match up CP3 obliterates Curry even worse than Curry did and in 3 quarters to boot. :bowdown: :bowdown: . Konex is merciful.

[jimmy77x]

Keep on slurppin that haterade :lol

CP3 went HAM they had to sit him the Whole 4thQ


Warriors > Magic


CP3 > Melo tonight get off the Haterade

Keep slurpin on cp3 just remember to wipe your face every now and again, and to my understanding they both played against professional basketball teams so it doesn't matter if one has a better record than the other right now nice try.

So again Melo > Cp3 get over it.:lol

[Detroit]

The Clippers without Chris Paul will be like the current Lakers. Even though the team has talent, its Chris Paul that brings them all together. Thats why hes in the MVP race.

[Bigsmoke]

CP3 > Melo

[knickswin]

Well he gets alot of hockey assist and doesn't need to average assist like lebron does. That why the knicks have what are called point guards to do that its not the small forwards job to try and average 10 assist. People think because lebron likes to pad his stats due to ball domination everyone must average what he does.

harping on melo's assist numbers is silly. he plays mostly out of the post and elbow, so he's never going to average a lot of assists. it's not his job. he plays like a big man. when you play like melo does, you are supposed to move the ball and pass out of doubles, which he's doing.

[konex]

2 B2B blowouts on the road vs. playoff teams w/o CP3. KD is the MVP and it's not even close

[jimmy77x]

Absolute joke

[TheCalmInsanity]

Absolute joke

Keep your stupid marshMelo agenda out of this. So one bad game (coming off injury to boot) and you're gona bump this thread just for that? Talk about overreaction

[tmacattack33]

Well he gets alot of hockey assist and doesn't need to average assist like lebron does. That why the knicks have what are called point guards to do that its not the small forwards job to try and average 10 assist. People think because lebron likes to pad his stats due to ball domination everyone must average what he does.

LOL please, Lebron gets a lot of hockey assists too.

Don't even try to argue that Carmelo is even close to the passer Lebron is, it's not even close.

And no, it has nothing to do with stats.

If you think Carmelo has above average vision you don't know basketball.

And if you think Lebron is not at least top 10 in passing vision today in the NBA, you don't know basketball.

[jimmy77x]

LOL please, Lebron gets a lot of hockey assists too.

Don't even try to argue that Carmelo is even close to the passer Lebron is, it's not even close.

And no, it has nothing to do with stats.

If you think Carmelo has above average vision you don't know basketball.

And if you think Lebron is not at least top 10 in passing vision today in the NBA, you don't know basketball.

You just proved my point . Lebron is a special player yes we know he can play multiple positions but due to his "Court vision" and ball domination he averages alot of assist. No one was saying Carmelo has the same " Vision" or passing ability ( which is isnt as far apart as you believe) as lebron, but it not his job to be racking up assist if he wanted to he could though, but he has a scorers mentality.

[Graviton]

Keep your stupid marshMelo agenda out of this. So one bad game (coming off injury to boot) and you're gona bump this thread just for that? Talk about overreaction
He had 22/11 in the last game, guess this injury excuse is only convenient when he loses.

This is his second terrible game vs an elite PG on a West playoff team. He got owned by Goatbrook too, and tomorrow he will most likely have another shitty game due to "injury". You can't be MVP when the "best PG" in the league can't even outplay other elite PGs in his own conference. That bench is Clippers MVP every night, CP3 doesn't really show up as consistently.

[TheCalmInsanity]

He had 22/11 in the last game, guess this injury excuse is only convenient when he loses.

This is his second terrible game vs an elite PG on a West playoff team. He got owned by Goatbrook too, and tomorrow he will most likely have another shitty game due to "injury". You can't be MVP when the "best PG" in the league can't even outplay other elite PGs in his own conference. That bench is Clippers MVP every night, CP3 doesn't really show up as consistently.

He was also 6-16, and 2-8 from 3. You can't just look at stats you troll.

Last game against Curry: 27 points, 9 assists IN 3 QUARTERS. Did you forget about that? By the way, the Clippers have played 40 games, 2 bad games makes him horrible and "unable to outplay the other elite PGs in his own conference"? Get your head out of your ass.

Also keep your "GOATBROOK" stuff to yourself. Westbrook is good but nowhere near what you guys overrate him as.

[gengiskhan]

First of all, I'm not sure he's the best player on the team. Second, they are winning cos they are stacked with talent. No one guy is carrying this team and they'd keep rolling if CP3, Blake or anyone else missed time. They have no post game but that's about the only weakness...

Clippers advanced stats through 12/18

http://www.82games.com/1213/1213LAC.HTM

Hmmm

Let me guess

What MVP nomination wont be laughable for you !!

Kobe bryant. :roll: :roll: :roll:

[eliteballer]

First of all, I'm not sure he's the best player on the team.

:roll:

[Graviton]

He was also 6-16, and 2-8 from 3. You can't just look at stats you troll.

Last game against Curry: 27 points, 9 assists IN 3 QUARTERS. Did you forget about that? By the way, the Clippers have played 40 games, 2 bad games makes him horrible and "unable to outplay the other elite PGs in his own conference"? Get your head out of your ass.

Also keep your "GOATBROOK" stuff to yourself. Westbrook is good but nowhere near what you guys overrate him as.
Warriors 3-1 vs Clippers with Curry outplaying CP3, did you forget about THAT?

Yea CP3 is so good he never been past the 2nd round. Don't worry, Goatbrook once again will prove how overrated CP3 is tommorow. You keep sucking on CP360 during your annual 2nd round exits while I watch Goatbrook play in the Finals each year.

[qrich]

Warriors 3-1 vs Clippers with Curry outplaying CP3, did you forget about THAT?

Yea CP3 is so good he never been past the 2nd round. Don't worry, Goatbrook once again will prove how overrated CP3 is tommorow. You keep sucking on CP360 during your annual 2nd round exits while I watch Goatbrook play in the Finals each year.

Clippers 3-1 vs OKC last year. Sure, it is 0-1 this year but it took overtime, on the road, with a missing starter. I'm sure tomorrow's game will have a different ending, despite the fact Clips are on a back to back.

Or Paul being 9-5 all time against Westbrook while averaging 3.1 more dimes and 1.9 less turnovers and shooting just over 50% while Westbrook is just under 40%.

Did you forget that?

[Graviton]

Clippers 3-1 vs OKC last year. Sure, it is 0-1 this year but it took overtime, on the road, with a missing starter. I'm sure tomorrow's game will have a different ending, despite the fact Clips are on a back to back.

Or Paul being 9-5 all time against Westbrook while averaging 3.1 more dimes and 1.9 less turnovers and shooting just over 50% while Westbrook is just under 40%.

Did you forget that?
I like to live in the present, you know with both players fully developed. Not veteran CP3 vs 2nd/3rd year young Westbrook.

This season Goatbrook is much improved and already took a dump on CP3 and shut him down in 4th and overtime. Same will happen again with Thabo on CP3, then Westbrook on CP3 in the 4th. Paul is good, but he can't handle bigger defender. Maybe his 2008 version could, but this chubby fragile CP3 isn't THAT good. This is a new age, the age of Goatbrook, the indestructible beast that feasts on hobbits.

[qrich]

I like to live in the present, you know with both players fully developed. Not veteran CP3 vs 2nd/3rd year young Westbrook.

This season Goatbrook is much improved and already took a dump on CP3 and shut him down in 4th and overtime. Same will happen again with Thabo on CP3, then Westbrook on CP3 in the 4th. Paul is good, but he can't handle bigger defender. Maybe his 2008 version could, but this chubby fragile CP3 isn't THAT good. This is a new age, the age of Goatbrook, the indestructible beast that feasts on hobbits.

Wasn't aware last year was #3 for Russ and he wasn't developed. And yes, the same Westbrook who has had 4 games of more turnovers than assists! Just for shits and giggles, on who the best Point Guard is: on the season, Westbrook scores 6 more points per game, in 3 minutes more action on 42/80/34 shooting versus 48/90/34 for Paul. Paul takes 6.6 LESS shots to score 6 less points.

Paul is #2 in the league in assists-per-turnover. Westbrook is #27. Paul is #2 in assists-per-game, Westbrook is #5 (1.4 difference), Paul is #1 in steals-per-game, Westbrook is #5 (.7 difference), Paul is #7 in steals-per-turnover (#2 amongst Points), Westbrook is #45 (#16 amongst points). Paul is #1 in steals-per-foul, Westbrook is #19. Paul is #43 in turnovers-per-game, Westbrook is #7. Paul, in 3 less games, has 2 more double-doubles. Paul is #7 among guards in FG% to Westbrook at #35.

[Smoke117]

konex is an idiot in general, but I'd agree with the sentiment. The Clippers are stacked which gives no one a legit chance at MVP and it isn't like Paul is having close to the seasons he had in 08 (when he should have won MVP) or 09.

[TheCalmInsanity]

Warriors 3-1 vs Clippers with Curry outplaying CP3, did you forget about THAT?

Yea CP3 is so good he never been past the 2nd round. Don't worry, Goatbrook once again will prove how overrated CP3 is tommorow. You keep sucking on CP360 during your annual 2nd round exits while I watch Goatbrook play in the Finals each year.

Are you retarded? Annual 2nd round exits and Finals each year? You do realize that they went to the finals last year for the first time right?

How do "Goatbrook"s "Goat nuts" taste?