Right now, who is the better overall player: Chris Paul or Rajan Rondo?

[hawkfan]

Right now, who is the better overall player: Chris Paul or Rajon Rondo?
Factoring in all areas of the game.

[tpols]

Right now cp3 but he has more to work with and we'll see what everything looks like come playoff time.

[joeyjoejoe]

Cp3

[Bigsmoke]

CP3

[red1]

cp3

[TylerOO]

Rondo

[Young X]

CP3

[Pushxx]

In the playoffs, Rondo.

In the regular season, CP3.

[notatop29pg]

CP3

[(e)]

Who's Rajan?

[fpliii]

In the playoffs, Rondo.

In the regular season, CP3.

I really like CP3, but I can't disagree with this

[brandonislegend]

In the playoffs, Rondo.

In the regular season, CP3.

+1

[Al Thornton]

rondo could be the better player and the best point guard in the league by far but he doesn't want to score points. and scoring points is what his team needs the most.

[hawkfan]

Who's Rajan?

Corrected.

[TeamLAC]

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[fpliii]

rondo could be the better player and the best point guard in the league by far but he doesn't want to score points. and scoring points is what his team needs the most.

Bill Simmons is kind of a tool at times, but he recently suggested that this is due to the fact that Rondo's avoiding contact due to fear of going to the line

does anyone watch enough Cs games to get a read on that theory?

[TMT]

CP3 all day, everyday, and twice on Sunday.

[bdreason]

Bill Simmons is kind of a tool at times, but he recently suggested that this is due to the fact that Rondo's avoiding contact due to fear of going to the line

does anyone watch enough Cs games to get a read on that theory?


I don't watch enough Celtics games to confirm, but I will say that Rondo dominates the ball, plays 38 mpg, and only takes 3 FT's per game. Either he's not looking to score, trying to avoid contact... or getting no love from the refs.

[Lebron23]

CP3 all day, everyday, and twice on Sunday.


What's up marny_navis aka Buffalo_bill?

[Celtics_18]

I don't watch enough Celtics games to confirm, but I will say that Rondo dominates the ball, plays 38 mpg, and only takes 3 FT's per game. Either he's not looking to score, trying to avoid contact... or getting no love from the refs.

Combination of not looking to score and avoiding contact really. I really don't think he has the mindset to go hard to the basket and hope for a foul. When he drives it seems like he looks to pass as soon as any kind of help comes, when he could often just toss himself in there and get to the lines.

[notatop29pg]

Right now the Celtics need scoring from Rondo, but he appears disinterested. Time to sacrifice some boards and handoffs for what his team needs most.

[konex]

Rondo

[fpliii]

I don't watch enough Celtics games to confirm, but I will say that Rondo dominates the ball, plays 38 mpg, and only takes 3 FT's per game. Either he's not looking to score, trying to avoid contact... or getting no love from the refs.


Combination of not looking to score and avoiding contact really. I really don't think he has the mindset to go hard to the basket and hope for a foul. When he drives it seems like he looks to pass as soon as any kind of help comes, when he could often just toss himself in there and get to the lines.

Do you guys think his mentality hurting the team? I'm not baiting, just trying to figure out what's going on with this team...pre-season I had them as a clear top 2 seed in conference, and they're about to fall back to .500.

[TMT]

What's up marny_navis aka Buffalo_bill?

Please Check my IP address so you can shut the hell up. This is my only account.

Weren't you Durant35 and several other posters? Talk about being mad and contradictory. :oldlol:

[schism206]

CP3... Rondo's iffy jumpshooting and free throw % are too big to overlook. In the last 2 minutes of games that severely limits your playmaking ability if you're considered "the man". While you could argue CP3's height hurts him in the last 2 minutes of games, I'd feel much more confident in CP3 making something happen than Rondo. He's also too arrogant for his own good.

[Celtics_18]

Do you guys think his mentality hurting the team? I'm not baiting, just trying to figure out what's going on with this team...pre-season I had them as a clear top 2 seed in conference, and they're about to fall back to .500.

I would like to him look for his shot more, but honestly I'm not too worried about that. They'll have a streak of 20 games or so where they play at a 70% clip and they'll finish 3-5th in the conference. I genuinely think the entire team just plays to get through the regular season. People love to write off the Celtics every year, but I can guarantee come playoff time they'll be fine and Rondo will put up some kind of 18-12-7 line.

[Lebron23]

Please Check my IP address so you can shut the hell up. This is my only account.

Weren't you Durant35 and several other posters? Talk about being mad and contradictory. :oldlol:

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[plUto or bUst]

I love Rondo but I have to give Paul the slight edge here. Rondo is more temperamental... can give you big games and can also give you stinkers. Chris Paul is just consistently excellent night in night out.

[TMT]

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llfetiMpWh1qzyufx.gif

:applause: you are such a great poster, please share more of your greatness with us.

I'm still waiting, brother.

[bdreason]

Please Check my IP address so you can shut the hell up. This is my only account.

Weren't you Durant35 and several other posters? Talk about being mad and contradictory. :oldlol:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5pM-m79TLI

[TMT]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5pM-m79TLI

:roll: And with that we won't see him around here for about a month.

[Sharmer]

Chris Paul, Rondo can't shoot, hustle can only get you so far.

[BlackWhiteGreen]

Chris Paul, Rondo can't shoot, hustle can only get you so far.

FG% Rondo .512 Paul .479
16ft-3pt line% Rondo .544 Paul .463

:confusedshrug:

[All Net]

Clearly Chris Paul

[andremiller07]

The only difference between Chris Paul and Rondo right now is a greater than sign

Chris Paul > Rajon Rondo

[miles berg]

CP3 by a mile, no comparison.

[Kevin_Garnett_5]

In the regular season? CP3

As far as the Playoffs are concerned, I'll go with the one who's been out of the 2nd round & has been the best player on an NBA Finals team. :D

[Rubio2Gasol]

Give me the guy who comes to play in June.

[Rubio2Gasol]

Do you guys think his mentality hurting the team? I'm not baiting, just trying to figure out what's going on with this team...pre-season I had them as a clear top 2 seed in conference, and they're about to fall back to .500.

It does and it's my main knock on him. He's not assertive enough, even in the playoffs when I think he picks up the intensity and becomes much more assertive - he could still be more assertive.

Especially with KG at center that lane opens up far too much for him to be averaging 12 points a game.

[joeyjoejoe]

If cp's healthy in the playoffs he'll outplay rondo per 48

[Kurosawa0]

Ainge would trade Rondo for Paul in a heartbeat. Hell, he already tried to.

[I.R.Beast]

rondo could be the better player and the best point guard in the league by far but he doesn't want to score points. and scoring points is what his team needs the most.
this man...im a celtic and rondo is just an assist whore. ...our record would be and should be better if he look to score more.

[I.R.Beast]

In the regular season? CP3

As far as the Playoffs are concerned, I'll go with the one who's been out of the 2nd round & has been the best player on an NBA Finals team. :D
when was rondo the best player on a finald team?....

[Darius]

lmao this isn't even a question.

Rondo is below CP3 as a player (but not by much).

But CP3 isn't just how well he plays. It's about how well he leads.

He took the worst franchise in the league and did everything for them. Recruited the players, worked the media, gave them belief in themselves, led them on and off the court.

Chris Paul is the greatest leader in the league and that counts for far more than who is the better passer or has the better handle.

Rondo, though I like him, is nowhere near the leader and, in fact, has been suggested to be a loner type

[jjayfive]

I would take CP3 in a heart beat, he's a better all around scorer and just as good passing.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

FG% Rondo .512 Paul .479
16ft-3pt line% Rondo .544 Paul .463

:confusedshrug:

Midrange, FTs and volume?

Player Efficiency Rating: Rondo - 19; CP3 - 26

[The Redemption]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5pM-m79TLI

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Kevin_Garnett_5]

when was rondo the best player on a finald team?....
2010. KG was coming off a knee surgery and had his worst season as a Celtic and Pierce was mediocre throughout the entire Playoff run. Rondo was easily the teams best player at that point, especially since he was playing out of his mind that postseason.

[LEFT4DEAD]

Rondo is one of the most overrated players ever. Most of the time teams don't even play defense on him and his top ppg average in his career is 13.7. He cant lead one of the most stacked teams in the league to above .500. Once Garnett and Pierce retire, Boston will be one of the worst teams with Rondo as their leader.

[ballup]

Rondo is one of the most overrated players ever. Most of the time teams don't even play defense on him and his top ppg average in his career is 13.7. He cant lead one of the most stacked teams in the league to above .500. Once Garnett and Pierce retire, Boston will be one of the worst teams with Rondo as their leader.
Being stacked with soft jump shooters doesn't make your team good.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Paul. I don't think you can win a title with Rondo as your best player.

[LEFT4DEAD]

Being stacked with soft jump shooters doesn't make your team good.
No, Rondo is just not as good player as people made him to be.

[BlackWhiteGreen]

Midrange, FTs and volume?

Player Efficiency Rating: Rondo - 19; CP3 - 26

Wouldn't you consider 16ft-3pt midrange? anyhow, Rondo has taken 1 less shot from that range than CP3. Free throws Rondo has always bee awful at, but he's at a career high .647 this year.

PER has little to do with shooting. My reply was aimed at Sharmer, CP3 is the better player.

[ballup]

No, Rondo is just not as good player as people made him to be.
Actually, that's a huge reason as to why the Celtics are .500, not just because of Rondo's weaknesses. Unlike you, I have watched Celtics games this season.

[DKLaker]

WTF is up with this thread......did Rondo learn how to shoot????
:no: No = End this fking thread!!!

[Unstoppabull]

I don't know why you guys think Rondo is great, but he pads his assists. Like he is all up ahead on the other end all alone for an easy layup yet passes to a guy behind for a contested layup. That shit's messed up right there. Those are just empty stats.

I'll definitely want a guy who can actually take over games when it matters. CP3 all the way.

[LemonMan]

In the playoffs, Rondo.

In the regular season, CP3.

"Who is the better overall player right now" the answering skill is strong with this one

[Pushxx]

2012 Playoffs
CP3: 17.6 PPG, 7.9 APG, 5.1 RPG, 2.7 SPG, 42.7% FG
Rondo: 17.3 PPG, 11.9 APG, 6.7 RPG, 2.4 SPG, 46.8% FG

Rondo played 19 games to CP3's 11 games and faced teams with appreciably better defense, including the Miami Heat.

Also consider Rondo is a better defender in the playoffs.

CP3 is clearly one of the four most impactful/valuable players of this season (LeBron, Durant, Melo), but again: in the playoffs Rondo takes it to another level he doesn't care to do in the regular season because he's a lazy ****.

The Celtics three other guards on the team, Courtney Lee, Jason Terry, and Leandro Barbosa have been sucking ass this entire season. Bigtime...


"Who is the better overall player right now" the answering skill is strong with this one

I did answer the question..."right now" is regular season, which means my answer is CP3. The logic is strong in this one... :facepalm

[MMM]

when was rondo the best player on a finald team?....

In 2010 he was arguably our best player. He was clearly our best player in the Cavs Series and was good in the Magic series. However, in the Finals everyone but Glen Davis played poorly iirc.

[Legends66NBA7]

WTF is up with this thread......did Rondo learn how to shoot????
:no: No = End this fking thread!!!

Huh ?

Rondo certainly has learned how to shoot. Hitting a career high from mid-range and is being efficent overall.

[ballup]

Huh ?

Rondo certainly has learned how to shoot. Hitting a career high from mid-range and is being efficent overall.
Shhhh don't let them know that he actually does have a jump shot. It's much funnier when they don't expect it

[Legends66NBA7]

I'll definitely want a guy who can actually take over games when it matters.

And Rondo in the last 4 post seasons has not proven this to you ?

[LemonMan]

2012 Playoffs
CP3: 17.6 PPG, 7.9 APG, 5.1 RPG, 2.7 SPG, 42.7% FG
Rondo: 17.3 PPG, 11.9 APG, 6.7 RPG, 2.4 SPG, 46.8% FG

Rondo played 19 games to CP3's 11 games and faced teams with appreciably better defense, including the Miami Heat.

Also consider Rondo is a better defender in the playoffs.

CP3 is clearly one of the four most impactful/valuable players of this season (LeBron, Durant, Melo), but again: in the playoffs Rondo takes it to another level he doesn't care to do in the regular season because he's a lazy ****.

The Celtics three other guards on the team, Courtney Lee, Jason Terry, and Leandro Barbosa have been sucking ass this entire season. Bigtime...



I did answer the question..."right now" is regular season, which means my answer is CP3. The logic is strong in this one... :facepalm

you come into a thread about who's better now, and your argument in every post you make is trying to show how good rondo is in playoffs read your own post :facepalm

[MMM]

Paul. I don't think you can win a title with Rondo as your best player.

Rondo was arguably the best player on the Celtics 2010 run. The Celtics were 6 mins away from winning the title that year. However, not to give him moral win, but when you doubt that Rondo can be the best player on a winning team while CP3 has never been in that position, I can't see your point as being logical.

[G-Funk]

Paul

[Foster5k]

CP3 but Rondo is a great player.

[Sharmer]

:bowdown:
CP3 by a mile, no comparison.

[BG32-KD35]

Paul, replace Rondo with Paul and there would have been more championships for the Celts