Euroleague And FIBA With New Rules (NBA Court Dimensions) Starting Next Season

[Euroleague]

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FIBA and NBA rules even closer!

on December 29th, 2012


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By Niki Bakouli

Forget everything you know and get ready to be introduced to the new era of European basketball, which is going to start next season, and progressively is going to remind you more and more (as the years go by) of the NBA.

The challenge is to make the game more attractive for the fans. And it’s no secret that all the interested parties (FIBA, Euroleague, the World Association of Basketball Coaches, Euroleague’s Referees etc.) have already talked about what needs to be done. They have already worked on how the game will be more spectacular, and now it’s time for making decisions. From the 24th to 26th of January, FIBA’s Technical Committee will meet in Singapore, to decide on the proposals that they are going to present to FIBA’s Central Board. And after a voting procedure, those proposals are going to be the reality of our lives, from next season. Yes, they are going to try to enact some of the new rules, in the 2013-2014 season, in all European competitions! Let’s see few of these changes, that they are going to vote on.

1. A jump ball is going to decide possessions. Each time there is a dispute on which team must have the possession (for example, if the refs rule different things, when the ball gets stuck between the rim and the backboard etc.), instead of giving alternating possessions, the jump ball will return.

2. The courts will be wider and longer, if it’s possible and the clubs (at least, most of them) won’t even have to change the arenas to do that. Of course, the clubs which do not comply to the Euroleague’s arenas criteria will have a problem.

3. The three point line is going to be moved to 7.25 m (like the NBA 23' 9"). The wing span from the side line is going to expand from 0.90 to 1.02 meters. This is one tough rule to receive an approval, since the national leagues have their own rules – and these rules are not necessarily the same ones as Euroleague.

4. After an offensive rebound, the clock will go to 14 seconds, instead of 24 seconds (something that will make the game far more interesting, especially when the games will be in their last minute).

5. Each technical foul will give one free throw and the possession.

6. The “foul bonus” rule will be an entirely new thing. When the game reaches its last two minutes, two team fouls will be enough in order to get the bonus (so forget the number 5, and the teams keeping their fouls until the end).

[CavaliersFTW]

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FIBA and NBA rules even closer!

on December 29th, 2012

By Niki Bakouli

Forget everything you know and get ready to be introduced to the new era of European basketball, which is going to start next season, and progressively is going to remind you more and more (as the years go by) of the NBA.

The challenge is to make the game more attractive for the fans. And it

[Euroleague]

Why would Euroleague waste it's time trying to mirror an inferior league?

The inferior league is the one that has a no hand check rule, a pseudo zone defense rule, and a defensive 3 seconds violation.

Notice that FIBA and Euroleague have NO PLANS on adopting those INFERIOR LEAGUE rules. In fact, the current head of FIBA is on record as saying that they would never ever adopt those INFERIOR LEAGUE rules.

They are interested in adopting the NBA court dimensions, in order to stop hearing all the bullshit complaints and excuses from the NBA and Team USA about it. The word is that the Euroleague is extremely pissed off that after every time they beat an NBA team - EVERY single US sports media article claims it was because of "the NBA team not being used to the different court size".

Of course, FIBA is sick of the exact same excuse being used every time Team USA ever lost a game.

Also, Euroleague is angry it is said over how when players that struggled in Euroleague (like Rubio for example) go to the NBA and do good - that it's never credited to the defense played in Euroleague, but only to the "smaller court", and claimed that "because the NBA court is bigger, now they can play their real game".

Euroleague's coaches and marketers want this bullshit to stop. So by changing that to the NBA court dimensions, all of those bullshit lies the NBA marketing and its fans use to make up these imaginary fairy tale excuses will be gone.

Thus, Euroleague and FIBA are taking away the major NBA marketing gimmick from them, that they have always used to claim NBA superiority.

Now, if an NBA team loses to a Euroleague team, or if Team USA loses to some other national team - they won't have any marketable excuses to use.

Unless they want to dare be stupid enough to claim they lost because they are too soft to play under rules that allow hand checking and a defended lane (like the NBA before these absurd rules changes by Stern).

So basically, it's FIBA and Euroleague saying they have had enough of the bullshit NBA gimmick marketing that is solely designed to make their products look bad.

They are sick of hearing all the bullshit excuses from Americans whenever they lose. This just effectively took away all of the excuses.

FIBA and Euroleague are NOT adopting the soft INFERIOR LEAGUE rules like defensive 3 seconds, no hand checking, and the pseudo zone.

[CavaliersFTW]

The inferior league is the one that has a no hand check rule, a pseudo zone defense rule, and a defensive 3 seconds violation.

Notice that FIBA and Euroleague have NO PLANS on adopting those INFERIOR LEAGUE rules. In fact, the current head of FIBA is on record as saying that they would never ever adopt those INFERIOR LEAGUE rules.

They are interested in adopting the NBA court dimensions, in order to stop hearing all the bullshit complaints and excuses from the NBA and Team USA about it. The word is that the Euroleague is extremely pissed off that after every time they beat an NBA team - EVERY single US sports media article claims it was because of "the NBA team not being used to the different court size".

Of course, FIBA is sick of the exact same excuse being used every time Team USA ever lost a game.

Also, Euroleague is angry it is said over how when players that struggled in Euroleague (like Rubio for example) go to the NBA and do good - that it's never credited to the defense played in Euroleague, but only to the "smaller court", and claimed that "because the NBA court is bigger, now they can play their real game".

Euroleague's coaches and marketers want this bullshit to stop. So by changing that to the NBA court dimensions, all of those bullshit lies the NBA marketing and its fans sue to make up these imaginary fairy tale excuses will be gone.

Thus, Euroleague and FIBA are taking away the major NBA marketing gimmick from them, that they have always used to claim NBA superiority.

Now, if an NBA team loses to a Euroleague team, or if Team USA loses to some other national team - they won't have any marketable excuses to use.

Unless they want to dare be stupid enough to claim they lost because they are too soft to play under rules that allow hand checking and a defended lane (like the NBA before these absurd rules changes by Stern).

So basically, it's FIBA and Euroleague saying they have had enough of the bullshit NBA gimmick marketing that is solely designed to make the products look bad.

They are sick of hearing all the bullshit excuses from Americans whenever they lose. This just effectively takes away all of the excuses.

FIBA and Euroleague are NOT adopting the soft inferior league rules like defensive 3 seconds, no hand checking, and the pseudo zone.
How does changing the rules to mirrior the NBA (a so-called lesser league by your own opinion) take away the fact that Weems and other NBA scrubs that got cut from teams or couldn't produce at a high level in the NBA go over to Euroleague and begin leading that league in every category imaginable? :confusedshrug:

[Euroleague]

How does changing the rules to mirrior the NBA (a so-called lesser league by your own opinion) take away the fact that Weems and other NBA scrubs that got cut from teams or couldn't produce at a high level in the NBA go over to Euroleague and begin leading the league in scoring/assists etc? :confusedshrug:

How come Euroleague scrubs like Brandon Jennings, Ricky Rubio, Zaza Pachulia, Ty Lawson, Goran Dragic, Gary Neal, Reggie Williams, etc. do so good in the NBA?

How come a 35 year old washed up Euroleague has been is in the rotation of one of the best teams in the NBA?

[jdm_dc_fan]

OP is gonna have surgery and remove a couple ribs in order to suck his own cokc.

[red1]

follow the leader

[Euroleague]

follow the leader

Yes. That's why NBA wants to adopt the offensive goal tending rule.

[gabepizza]

How come Euroleague scrubs like Brandon Jennings, Ricky Rubio, Zaza Pachulia, Ty Lawson, Goran Dragic, Gary Neal, Reggie Williams, etc. do so good in the NBA?

How come a 35 year old washed up Euroleague has been is in the rotation of one of the best teams in the NBA?

Yawn...Again how I have said time and time again...lies, lies and more lies. Now that you listed the players you referred to as Euroleague scrubs doing good in the NBA I shall refute each one to prove your lies.

1. Brandon Jennings. As I have said before this is the one example of a player who actually is more successful in the NBA than he was in Europe but it has to be remembered he played in Europe for one as a 19 year old in what should of been his freshman year in college. That being said he still averaged 7.6 ppg in Euroleague, which while is not great, does not qualify him as a scrub especially since as we all know Euroleague game are 8 minutes shorter so the scoring is less all around and assists are not counted as much.
http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=001219

2. Ricky Rubio Rubio was the starting point guard of the Euroleague champions being a major contributor to that team (top 4 in mpg). Here are his stats for Barca the year they one the Euroleague champion with him as a starting pg:
http://www.euroleague.net/competition/teams/showteamstats?clubcode=BAR&seasoncode=E2009
Yes his NBA stats are a little better:
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/ricky_rubio/
But remember Euroleague games are 8 minutes shorter and they way they count assists make it a lot harder to get assists counted in Euroleague and remember he was the starting PG for the Euroleague champions not some .500 team like he is in the NBA and that to the fact that one year he was selected the best Euroleague player age 22 and under one year.

3. Goran Dragic If you look at the stats from the one full season that Dragic played in Euroleage (apart from that season he only played 2 Euroleague games):
http://www.euroleague.net/competition/teams/showteamstats?clubcode=LJU&seasoncode=E2007
You will see that he did better in Euroleague than he as done so far in the NBA
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/goran_dragic/
Because remember Euroleague games are 8 minutes shorter and harder to get assists counted.

4. Gary Neal Gary Neal played a total of 7, yes 7 games in Euroleague. He did play full season in Eurocup for which he was once selected to the All-Eurocup 2nd team.
http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?clubcode=bar&pcode=000751

5. Reggie Williams You know Reggie Williams I have never even heard of but I looked up his stats. He only played 3 games (yes that;s right 3) in Euroleague but still he averaged more points in the 8 minutes shorter Euroleague last year:
http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=003394
then he is now being a bench player on an NBA team that is in the middle of a 17 game losing streak
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/reggie_williams/

6. Pablo Prigioni And finally that washed up Pablo Prigioni who has put up better numbers and played more minutes and was the starting PG for every season he played in Euroleague (and a couple years back was the starting PG on a Euroleague team that made the final Four)
http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=CBX
To his playing 13.4 mpg as a back-up in the NBA
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/pablo_prigioni/

Thank you.

[clayton]

In b4 Anthony Parker statue.

[CavaliersFTW]

Yawn...Again how I have said time and time again...lies, lies and more lies. Now that you listed the players you referred to as Euroleague scrubs doing good in the NBA I shall refute each one to prove your lies.

1. Brandon Jennings. As I have said before this is the one example of a player who actually is more successful in the NBA than he was in Europe but it has to be remembered he played in Europe for one as a 19 year old in what should of been his freshman year in college. That being said he still averaged 7.6 ppg in Euroleague, which while is not great, does not qualify him as a scrub especially since as we all know Euroleague game are 8 minutes shorter so the scoring is less all around and assists are not counted as much.
http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=001219

2. Ricky Rubio Rubio was the starting point guard of the Euroleague champions being a major contributor to that team (top 4 in mpg). Here are his stats for Barca the year they one the Euroleague champion with him as a starting pg:
http://www.euroleague.net/competition/teams/showteamstats?clubcode=BAR&seasoncode=E2009
Yes his NBA stats are a little better:
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/ricky_rubio/
But remember Euroleague games are 8 minutes shorter and they way they count assists make it a lot harder to get assists counted in Euroleague and remember he was the starting PG for the Euroleague champions not some .500 team like he is in the NBA and that to the fact that one year he was selected the best Euroleague player age 22 and under one year.

3. Goran Dragic If you look at the stats from the one full season that Dragic played in Euroleage (apart from that season he only played 2 Euroleague games):
http://www.euroleague.net/competition/teams/showteamstats?clubcode=LJU&seasoncode=E2007
You will see that he did better in Euroleague than he as done so far in the NBA
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/goran_dragic/
Because remember Euroleague games are 8 minutes shorter and harder to get assists counted.

4. Gary Neal Gary Neal played a total of 7, yes 7 games in Euroleague. He did play full season in Eurocup for which he was once selected to the All-Eurocup 2nd team.
http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?clubcode=bar&pcode=000751

5. Reggie Williams You know Reggie Williams I have never even heard of but I looked up his stats. He only played 3 games (yes that;s right 3) in Euroleague but still he averaged more points in the 8 minutes shorter Euroleague last year:
http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=003394
then he is now being a bench player on an NBA team that is in the middle of a 17 game losing streak
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/reggie_williams/

6. Pablo Prigioni And finally that washed up Pablo Prigioni who has put up better numbers and played more minutes and was the starting PG for every season he played in Euroleague (and a couple years back was the starting PG on a Euroleague team that made the final Four)
http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=CBX
To his playing 13.4 mpg as a back-up in the NBA
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/pablo_prigioni/

Thank you.
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

[Michael_Wilbon]

inb4 someone cares.

[red1]

Yes. That's why NBA wants to adopt the offensive goal tending rule.
the little brother has always looked up to his older brother

[Nash]

Yawn...Again how I have said time and time again...lies, lies and more lies. Now that you listed the players you referred to as Euroleague scrubs doing good in the NBA I shall refute each one to prove your lies.

1. Brandon Jennings. As I have said before this is the one example of a player who actually is more successful in the NBA than he was in Europe but it has to be remembered he played in Europe for one as a 19 year old in what should of been his freshman year in college. That being said he still averaged 7.6 ppg in Euroleague, which while is not great, does not qualify him as a scrub especially since as we all know Euroleague game are 8 minutes shorter so the scoring is less all around and assists are not counted as much.
http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=001219

2. Ricky Rubio Rubio was the starting point guard of the Euroleague champions being a major contributor to that team (top 4 in mpg). Here are his stats for Barca the year they one the Euroleague champion with him as a starting pg:
http://www.euroleague.net/competition/teams/showteamstats?clubcode=BAR&seasoncode=E2009
Yes his NBA stats are a little better:
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/ricky_rubio/
But remember Euroleague games are 8 minutes shorter and they way they count assists make it a lot harder to get assists counted in Euroleague and remember he was the starting PG for the Euroleague champions not some .500 team like he is in the NBA and that to the fact that one year he was selected the best Euroleague player age 22 and under one year.

3. Goran Dragic If you look at the stats from the one full season that Dragic played in Euroleage (apart from that season he only played 2 Euroleague games):
http://www.euroleague.net/competition/teams/showteamstats?clubcode=LJU&seasoncode=E2007
You will see that he did better in Euroleague than he as done so far in the NBA
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/goran_dragic/
Because remember Euroleague games are 8 minutes shorter and harder to get assists counted.

4. Gary Neal Gary Neal played a total of 7, yes 7 games in Euroleague. He did play full season in Eurocup for which he was once selected to the All-Eurocup 2nd team.
http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?clubcode=bar&pcode=000751

5. Reggie Williams You know Reggie Williams I have never even heard of but I looked up his stats. He only played 3 games (yes that;s right 3) in Euroleague but still he averaged more points in the 8 minutes shorter Euroleague last year:
http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=003394
then he is now being a bench player on an NBA team that is in the middle of a 17 game losing streak
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/reggie_williams/

6. Pablo Prigioni And finally that washed up Pablo Prigioni who has put up better numbers and played more minutes and was the starting PG for every season he played in Euroleague (and a couple years back was the starting PG on a Euroleague team that made the final Four)
http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=CBX
To his playing 13.4 mpg as a back-up in the NBA
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/pablo_prigioni/

Thank you.
:applause: :applause: You owning Euroleague is one of the highlights of ISH these days.

[Chapallaz]

How come Euroleague scrubs like Brandon Jennings, Ricky Rubio, Zaza Pachulia, Ty Lawson, Goran Dragic, Gary Neal, Reggie Williams, etc. do so good in the NBA?

How come a 35 year old washed up Euroleague has been is in the rotation of one of the best teams in the NBA?
All players you've mentioned are role players, expect maybe for Rubio. Jennings, Lawson and Rubio didn't even grow hair on their balls when they were playing in Europe. Hard to compaare their current outpu, with that of them playing overseas.

Some others hardly get off the bench. Meanwhile, mediocre NBA players are amongst league leaders in past EuroLeague seasons.

[gabepizza]

All players you've mentioned are role players, expect maybe for Rubio. Jennings, Lawson and Rubio didn't even grow hair on their balls when they were playing in Europe. Hard to compaare their current outpu, with that of them playing overseas.

Some others hardly get off the bench. Meanwhile, mediocre NBA players are amongst league leaders in past EuroLeague seasons.

Rubio and Jennings you are right about but Lawson was over just a year ago at the age of 24 but he only played 7 games in Euroleague, not really enough games to judge him. He also averaged 7.4 ppg in Euroleague so still not scrub material like Spanoulis and his 2.7 ppg in the NBA.

[Kiddlovesnets]

Who cares? A Div II college basketball team could blow out most Euroleague teams.

[bdreason]

FIBA has always followed the NBA's lead. The NBA is the gold standard, and every other league falls in line.

[gabepizza]

Who cares? A Div II college basketball team could blow out most Euroleague teams.


See it's posts like these that create Euroleague and are just as bad as his posts. It's obvious that the NBA is the best league in the world just how it's obvious that Euroleague is the 2nd best league in the world. Saying Div II college teams are better than Euroleague teams is just as absurd as saying Euroleague teams are better than NBA teams.

FYI Div I college teams play against Chinese league teams in exhibition games and the Chinese league is probably worse than the majority of European leagues, especially Euroleague which is the best of Europeans teams from different European leagues. Div II college teams would probably struggle to beat teams in the Angolan league or the Iranian league.

[gabepizza]

FIBA has always followed the NBA's lead. The NBA is the gold standard, and every other league falls in line.


Apart from the not calling traveling and the ticky tack fouls called on perimeter players. Oh yeah and the stars getting calls.

[GreatGreg]

How come Euroleague scrubs like Brandon Jennings, Ricky Rubio, Zaza Pachulia, Ty Lawson, Goran Dragic, Gary Neal, Reggie Williams, etc. do so good in the NBA?

How come a 35 year old washed up Euroleague has been is in the rotation of one of the best teams in the NBA?
Nope. You're wrong. You are a troll and no one cares what you think.
NBA > Euroleague.
You = mad.