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hawkfan
12-29-2012, 09:41 PM
Better pure scorer: Kevin Durant or Carmelo Anthony?

Discuss.

Segatti
12-29-2012, 09:43 PM
Durant is better from everywhere.

Teanett
12-29-2012, 09:44 PM
melo
because of:
post game
bully ball

Budadiiii
12-29-2012, 09:47 PM
Stats don't lie. Durants been better for the past 3 years.

f0und
12-29-2012, 09:48 PM
durant. and its not that close.

Teanett
12-29-2012, 09:48 PM
melo and it's not even close.

DStebb716
12-29-2012, 09:49 PM
Anybody that says it's not close can use the door, their legs and a GPS to find the nearest highway...

Melo can score in many more ways than Durant, but Durant's shooting makes him unstoppable. So it's a near toss up (and in tossups, I go to stats for the answer)

swag2011
12-29-2012, 09:51 PM
Kobe>>>>>>> both

jlip
12-29-2012, 09:52 PM
What's the difference between a "pure" scorer and a "regular" scorer?

(e)
12-29-2012, 09:56 PM
Durant. But both are great scorers.

DMV2
12-29-2012, 10:09 PM
FG% = Durant (.471 for career)
3-PTS = Durant (over .400 twice)
FT% = Durant (90% twice)
PPG = 3-time scoring champ, Durant

This season, it's close though.

Hotlantadude81
12-29-2012, 10:24 PM
Durant. Mello is a good player, but...

Durant has already been to the finals... Mello hasn't won jackshit.

hawkfan
12-29-2012, 10:41 PM
Durant. Mello is a good player, but...

Durant has already been to the finals... Mello hasn't won jackshit.

Wow. This must be like the first post about a non-Hawks topic.

TerranOP
12-29-2012, 10:42 PM
Durant. He can score at will basically anytime. Melo is a great scorer too, but he's much streakier. Also, Durant has a better shot selection. Melo takes terrible shots on a regular basis.

Batz
12-29-2012, 10:46 PM
What's the difference between a "pure" scorer and a "regular" scorer?
It's not in hierarchical terms. By 'pure' we mean a guy whose only debatable ability is his scoring talent, and everything outside of it is not accountable.

It's like arguing who the better pure scorer is - Derrick Rose or Chris Paul. A hefty amount would say Rose. But now who is the better offensive player? Now the scale tips and you have people saying Chris Paul.

Or at least I hope that's how the criteria is set here.

Hotlantadude81
12-29-2012, 10:57 PM
Durant. He can score at will basically anytime. Melo is a great scorer too, but he's much streakier. Also, Durant has a better shot selection. Melo takes terrible shots on a regular basis.

Pretty much.

Derka
12-29-2012, 11:39 PM
Every single time Durant shoots the ball, I feel like its going in.

Ikill
12-30-2012, 12:00 AM
Durant. He can score at will basically anytime. Melo is a great scorer too, but he's much streakier. Also, Durant has a better shot selection. Melo takes terrible shots on a regular basis.
Neither of them have great shot section but there is no bad shot for Durant he's so tall he'll get a clean look every time. On the other hand Melo misses a lot of easy baskets at the rim thats what hurts his efficiency not bad shots.

28renyoy
12-30-2012, 12:02 AM
Everytime the ball leaves Durant's hands, it seems like it's going in.

upside24
12-30-2012, 12:18 AM
It's not in hierarchical terms. By 'pure' we mean a guy whose only debatable ability is his scoring talent, and everything outside of it is not accountable.

It's like arguing who the better pure scorer is - Derrick Rose or Chris Paul. A hefty amount would say Rose. But now who is the better offensive player? Now the scale tips and you have people saying Chris Paul.

Or at least I hope that's how the criteria is set here.
Good post.

KG215
12-30-2012, 12:35 AM
Neither of them have great shot section but there is no bad shot for Durant he's so tall he'll get a clean look every time. On the other hand Melo misses a lot of easy baskets at the rim thats what hurts his efficiency not bad shots.
How many OKC games have you watched this year?

And be honest. Because Durant's shot selection this year has been pretty damn good, especially comparing it to past seasons.

JerryWest
12-30-2012, 12:37 AM
Durant

Young X
12-30-2012, 12:39 AM
Durant

Jolokia
12-30-2012, 12:42 AM
Melo is the better pure scorer (as in more versatile) but Durant is the better shooter.

Who's more effective and has more impact is a better question.

upside24
12-30-2012, 12:47 AM
Durant is better.

Melo is an exceptional scorer though.

chazzy
12-30-2012, 12:48 AM
I like watching Melo more but this is Durant

ralph_i_el
12-30-2012, 12:51 AM
durants pullup is unstoppable. He's the best scorer in the league right now

ClutchOver9000
12-30-2012, 12:54 AM
Well I think Melo has the more diversified scoring arsenal, and is a match-up nightmare because of his potent inside-outside game. Can play on the perimeter, can bang in the paint. Too strong for guards, too fast for bigs. Arguably best iso player in the league (both a pro and con depending on circumstances). When he is on fire, give me Melo over anyone else in the league :pimp:

Durant however is basically a 6'11 2-guard :eek: Can get his shot off over anyone. Great slasher, great in transition. Throw in that consistency and efficiency to the mix, and Durant gets the edge. His game meshes extremely well within the flow of OKC's offense. However, big con for me is that, although gifted length-wise, he lacks strength/size and therefore can be bullied by physical defenders. Also lacks a strong post up game.

Foster5k
12-30-2012, 01:40 AM
Gotta go with the Durantula. I never thought he would be this good, but he proved me wrong. Still needs to lead a team to a championship to seal his fate.

OKCThunderUP
12-30-2012, 01:46 AM
Neither of them have great shot section

uh LOL WHAT

Sarcastic
12-30-2012, 01:55 AM
Neither of them have great shot section but there is no bad shot for Durant he's so tall he'll get a clean look every time. On the other hand Melo misses a lot of easy baskets at the rim thats what hurts his efficiency not bad shots.


If he got the star calls that Durant gets, his numbers would look much better since he gets fouled so many times at the rim.

KOBE143
12-30-2012, 03:05 AM
Durant

He's a taller version of Kobe in offense but not in defense..

28renyoy
12-30-2012, 03:07 AM
Well I think Melo has the more diversified scoring arsenal, and is a match-up nightmare because of his potent inside-outside game. Can play on the perimeter, can bang in the paint. Too strong for guards, too fast for bigs. Arguably best iso player in the league (both a pro and con depending on circumstances). When he is on fire, give me Melo over anyone else in the league :pimp:

Durant however is basically a 6'11 2-guard :eek: Can get his shot off over anyone. Great slasher, great in transition. Throw in that consistency and efficiency to the mix, and Durant gets the edge. His game meshes extremely well within the flow of OKC's offense. However, big con for me is that, although gifted length-wise, he lacks strength/size and therefore can be bullied by physical defenders. Also lacks a strong post up game.

Hate to tell you, but Durant has been the most efficient post scorer in the league this season by a HUGE margin.

Ikill
12-30-2012, 03:33 AM
How many OKC games have you watched this year?

And be honest. Because Durant's shot selection this year has been pretty damn good, especially comparing it to past seasons.
My main point was shot selection is not the reason Durant is more efficient or maybe i should of said neither of them bad shot selection. It doesn't matter how good Durants shot selection is anyways he's so tall he'll get a quality look everytime he shoots.

bizil
12-30-2012, 05:29 AM
In terms of the bottom line, which is the points u can rack up, Durant, Melo, Bron, Kobe, and Wade get it done better than anybody. But from there it comes down to scoring skillset, size, etc. that separates Durant and Melo. In comparing the two, Melo has the better scoring skillset due to a more physical post game. I don't recall a 6'8 240 pound SF with the scoring capabilites and skillset of Melo. But KD is the better pure shooter( even though Melo has a sick stroke) and at 6'10 or even 6'11 has skills and agility never seen before for a player that tall. U can't go wrong either way scoring wise. This is like comparing those 80's SF's like Bird, Nique, King, English, Dantley, and Aguirre to each other. All great and most likely the best in certain ways at scoring. Gun to my head, I would take KD.

JerryWest
12-30-2012, 05:32 AM
In terms of the bottom line, which is the points u can rack up, Durant, Melo, Bron, Kobe, and Wade get it done better than anybody. But from there it comes down to scoring skillset, size, etc. that separates Durant and Melo. In comparing the two, Melo has the better scoring skillset due to a more physical post game. I don't recall a 6'8 240 pound SF with the scoring capabilites and skillset of Melo. But KD is the better pure shooter( even though Melo has a sick stroke) and at 6'10 or even 6'11 has skills and agility never seen before for a player that tall. U can't go wrong either way scoring wise. This is like comparing those 80's SF's like Bird, Nique, King, English, Dantley, and Aguirre to each other. All great and most likely the best in certain ways at scoring. Gun to my head, I would take KD.
dat avatar....yum

redrich2000
12-30-2012, 09:43 PM
Well I think Melo has the more diversified scoring arsenal, and is a match-up nightmare because of his potent inside-outside game. Can play on the perimeter, can bang in the paint. Too strong for guards, too fast for bigs. Arguably best iso player in the league (both a pro and con depending on circumstances). When he is on fire, give me Melo over anyone else in the league :pimp:

Durant however is basically a 6'11 2-guard :eek: Can get his shot off over anyone. Great slasher, great in transition. Throw in that consistency and efficiency to the mix, and Durant gets the edge. His game meshes extremely well within the flow of OKC's offense. However, big con for me is that, although gifted length-wise, he lacks strength/size and therefore can be bullied by physical defenders. Also lacks a strong post up game.

I think this is right. How about this for a question, if you switched Melo and Durant, would OKC have a better shot at beating the Heat?

knickscity
12-30-2012, 09:56 PM
When I think scorer...I think Melo.....when I think shooter.....I think Durant.

They both rack up a bunch of points in different ways.

Don't even know what a "pure" scorer is though.

Draz
12-30-2012, 10:13 PM
honestly their both amazing players. i love watching melo more than durant perhaps because of his ability to score in many different ways.

Michael_Wilbon
12-30-2012, 11:45 PM
Carmelo Anthony

Rissa
12-30-2012, 11:55 PM
I haven't seen a lot from Durant since I mostly watch Knicks but Carmelo is an amazing scorer, he makes it look so easy.

SilkkTheShocker
12-31-2012, 12:03 AM
Seems like the term "pure scorer" is used mostly as a way to defend Melo.

Trentknicks
12-31-2012, 12:06 AM
Seems like the term "pure scorer" is used mostly as a way to defend Melo.
Talking about defense, why don't you come back and defend yourself in the last two Knicks-Heat game threads. Knicks spankin dat ass without STAT, Melo, Shump & Camby :roll:

pnyozzzoo
12-31-2012, 12:38 AM
This is beating a dead horse, I'll close it here:

Durant will always be more efficient, due to body and shooting stroke.

Melo will always be more versatile, due to style and skill sets.

Nothing else to discuss about.

Y2Gezee
12-31-2012, 03:19 AM
I think this is right. How about this for a question, if you switched Melo and Durant, would OKC have a better shot at beating the Heat?


If OKC had Melo, they'd have a post game.

Human Error
02-23-2013, 01:07 AM
Durant, easily.

gengiskhan
02-23-2013, 01:08 AM
Better pure scorer: Kevin Durant or Carmelo Anthony?

Discuss.

from what I've seen. Durant. Melo is streaky ala Kobe. Can turn it on when going gets tough or having an off night.

Durant can.

Dro
02-23-2013, 01:21 AM
Umm...the guy who had led the league in scoring for the past 3 years.....

Dro
02-23-2013, 01:24 AM
If OKC had Melo, they'd have a post game.
Have you been paying attention? DURANT is one of the leading post scorers in the league this season...:confusedshrug:

avonbarksdale
02-23-2013, 01:39 AM
melo, durant better shooter

and lets get real if durant didn't get so many phantom foul calls melo would probably be leading the league in scoring

Dro
02-23-2013, 01:45 AM
melo, durant better shooter

and lets get real if durant didn't get so many phantom foul calls melo would probably be leading the league in scoring
Yes, the only reason a guy has the led the league in scoring for THREE straight years is because of the refs....Because Melo has never gotten superstar calls right? And if he hasn't, maybe its because he's not a superstar....:confusedshrug:

TylerOO
02-23-2013, 02:27 AM
LeBron

avonbarksdale
02-23-2013, 02:50 AM
Yes, the only reason a guy has the led the league in scoring for THREE straight years is because of the refs....Because Melo has never gotten superstar calls right? And if he hasn't, maybe its because he's not a superstar....:confusedshrug:


i don't care

dunksby
02-23-2013, 05:07 AM
Purely talking from a scoring standpoint, Durant is the better scorer, beside being more efficient at it, he has added new weapons to his repertoire. He has been much more active in the post, additionally now he attacks the basket relentlessly, which have made him even harder to defend now. Melo has been pretty much the same player for a few years now, while KD has leaped ahead every season passing Anthony after his 3rd year.

SilkkTheShocker
02-23-2013, 01:16 PM
Durant is a better scorer. Melo never wins these debates so people start using the term "pure"

tazb
02-23-2013, 01:19 PM
LeBron

This. It's sad how Carmelo & Durant are one-dimensional players who can only score yet LeBron still does it better than them. :lol

Living Being
02-23-2013, 01:24 PM
Melo doesn't improve his team, so Durant wins by default.

LikeABosh
02-23-2013, 01:28 PM
The guy who actually wins scoring titles.

La Frescobaldi
02-23-2013, 01:50 PM
Have you been paying attention? DURANT is one of the leading post scorers in the league this season...:confusedshrug:

This is why Oklahoma City isn't going to win rings as long as Heat are on the other side of the line in the Finals.
Until Thunder get a offensive force that has post moves, they will be too one dimensional for Bosh - James defense. Perimeter game is nice but it's paint ball that generally wins it all and their defense is stellar.

Now if Thunder had a guy like Al Jefferson or Pekovic in the middle?
They would live up to their name at that point.
:eek:
Right now the more correct name has to be Oklahoma City Lightning

But we'll see! That team looks real good. Tho very very weak physically that is deceptive. The greyhound game can destroy power teams if you don't beat them down in a hurry.

As far as OP it isn't really as close as you would think. Carmelo Anthony has more experience and can break down opponents but Durant is elite level NBA scoring machine. All-Time great for scoring.

Durant scoring abilities ranks somewhere right in here with these guys:

1985-86 Dominique Wilkins Hawks 30.3 2,366 78
1984-85 Bernard King Knicks 32.9 1,809 55
1983-84 Adrian Dantley U Jazz 30.6 2,418 79
1982-83 Alex English Nuggz 28.4 2,326 82
1981-82 George Gervin SSpurs 32.3 2,551 79
1980-81 Adrian Dantley U Jazz 30.7 2,452 80
1979-80 George Gervin SSpurs 33.1 2,585 78
1978-79 George Gervin SSpurs 29.6 2,365 80
1977-78 George Gervin SSpurs 27.2 2,232 82
1976-77 Pete Maravich NOJazz 31.1 2,273 73
1975-76 Bob McAdoo Braves 31.1 2,427 78
1974-75 Bob McAdoo Braves 34.5 2,831 82
1973-74 Bob McAdoo Braves 30.6 2,261 74

Whereas Carmelo Anthony is a notch or two below all of those guys. Noticeably not that same level.

And actually If you were to place Kevin Durant into a time zone he'd have been great in the 70s, battling Gervin for scoring titles. I doubt he would have beat Bob McAdoo though. The Mac Attack was absolutely insane.

Ikill
02-23-2013, 02:14 PM
What really hurts Melos efficiency is his poor finishing ability he misses too many easy baskets. He also doesn't get as many fastbreak points or points from playing off the ball.