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Heavincent
01-07-2013, 12:44 PM
[QUOTE] Dwight Howard and Kobe Bryant just can

Money 23
01-07-2013, 12:47 PM
Pretty obvious it happened. Corn ball was taking shots at Bean in the media the other day.

Kobe knows the nerves to hit in an argument haha, going for the jugular.

niko
01-07-2013, 12:48 PM
Jarrod Rudolph says it's fake and it's actually something that made the rounds last week and was shot down.

Note: Why would the Lakers trade for Brook Lopez? His contract is uninsured and the Nets sat him down for 3 weeks for basically stepping wrong. The Lakers are going to blow up their season for him? To give D'Antoni a low post slow center? I continue to be at a loss as to why people think it's still possible. (And what is the Nets "enticing" package?)

Haymaker
01-07-2013, 12:52 PM
If LA put Howard on the trading block, few teams will bite. Having him for half a season won't entice many teams, and with more reason since he's been a pain in the ass lately. Lakers are fukced. They will lose him for nothing.

brain drain
01-07-2013, 12:58 PM
If LA put Howard on the trading block, few teams will bite. Having him for half a season won't entice many teams, and with more reason since he's been a pain in the ass lately. Lakers are fukced. They will lose him for nothing.
Yeah, trading for Howard would be crazy. Imagine the circus.

brownmamba00
01-07-2013, 12:58 PM
fake

niko
01-07-2013, 12:59 PM
He'll just stay. He's not leaving to go to Dallas or Atlanta with lesser teams. The Lakers can retool in 2014 with him, and no Kobe.

People forget too there are no S&T for teams over the cap anymore so unless the Lakers are blowing up their season in the middle there aren't real suitors.

tpols
01-07-2013, 01:00 PM
Jarrod Rudolph says it's fake and it's actually something that made the rounds last week and was shot down.

Note: Why would the Lakers trade for Brook Lopez? His contract is uninsured and the Nets sat him down for 3 weeks for basically stepping wrong. The Lakers are going to blow up their season for him? To give D'Antoni a low post slow center? I continue to be at a loss as to why people think it's still possible. (And what is the Nets "enticing" package?)
Lopez isn't a low post center.. He's a high post center that roams in the paint when he sees penetration from his guards. That's what all his paint points come from. Passes from dwill and Joe Johnson when hey attract attention and he sneaks into the cracks of the defense.. Or defenders biting on his jump shot pump fake and him driving. He would actually work well on the Lakers. Brook has absolutely zero ego.. He would take everything as it came and would allow Gasol to sink back down into the post. His rim protection has been great this year too.

Him and Marshon Brooks and maybe a tough rebounder like reggie Evans would make the Lakers better than they are with Howard now whose offense is a liability and who barely protects the rim any better than lopez would.

AlphaWolf24
01-07-2013, 01:02 PM
I believe it 100%....

- Kobe's so Alpha.....Dwight tries to be Alpha....and he's Big so he thinks he is.

- 2 Alpha's....

Money 23
01-07-2013, 01:04 PM
I believe it 100%....

- Kobe's so Alpha.....Dwight tries to be Alpha....and he's Big so he thinks he is.

- 2 Alpha's....
Pretty sure if that 6'11 ear of corn stepped to Kobe's alpha, Bean would've popped him in his adam's apple in front of the whole team.

You're welcome.

Kiddlovesnets
01-07-2013, 01:07 PM
I believe it 100%....

- Kobe's so Alpha.....Dwight tries to be Alpha....and he's Big so he thinks he is.

- 2 Alpha's....

Yeah, Dwight is the best player on Lakers he has rights to be the alpha.

AlphaWolf24
01-07-2013, 01:09 PM
Pretty sure if that 6'11 ear of corn stepped to Kobe's alpha, Bean would've popped him in his adam's apple in front of the whole team.

You're welcome.


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niko
01-07-2013, 01:10 PM
Lopez isn't a low post center.. He's a high post center that roams in the paint when he sees penetration from his guards. That's what all his paint points come from. Passes from dwill and Joe Johnson when hey attract attention and he sneaks into the cracks of the defense.. Or defenders biting on his jump shot pump fake and him driving. He would actually work well on the Lakers. Brook has absolutely zero ego.. He would take everything as it came and would allow Gasol to sink back down into the post. His rim protection has been great this year too.

Him and Marshon Brooks and maybe a tough rebounder like reggie Evans would make the Lakers better than they are with Howard now whose offense is a liability and who barely protects the rim any better than lopez would.
D'Antoni wants his players to run up and down the court. Lopez has stress problems in his foot and is the slowest human being in the world. I 100% disagree with your assessment of Lopez being a D'Antoni type of player. Note: D'Antoni wants Gasol gone. He doesn't want him on the team much less in the post. (Note: I LOVE Lopez game this year, but it fits on the Nets well, not on the Lakers at all.)

D'Antoni wants Gasol gone, and in his place wants shooters, players who can space the floor, and get down the court and into the offense quickly. You want to send him Lopez, Evans and Brooks (i love Brooks game but he's not a spot up guy). It doesn't make any sense.

Kiddlovesnets
01-07-2013, 01:11 PM
D'Antoni wants his players to run up and down the court. Lopez has stress problems in his foot and is the slowest human being in the world. I 100% disagree with your assessment of Lopez being a D'Antoni type of player. Note: D'Antoni wants Gasol gone. He doesn't want him on the team much less in the post. (Note: I LOVE Lopez game this year, but it fits on the Nets well, not on the Lakers at all.)

D'Antoni wants Gasol gone, and in his place wants shooters, players who can space the floor, and get down the court and into the offense quickly. You want to send him Lopez, Evans and Brooks (i love Brooks game but he's not a spot up guy). It doesn't make any sense.

Well actually in Mike Brown's system(if he has one) Brook Lopez is an ideal fit, with Mike D'Antoni he apparently isnt. Too bad Brown is gone already huh.

AlphaWolf24
01-07-2013, 01:13 PM
Yeah, Dwight is the best player on Lakers he has rights to be the alpha.


- Alpha is a mindset....Dwight aint there yet..

- Alpha's need to recognize Alpha when it's in dey face.

- Alpha's stay Alpha and 2 Alpha's on 1 team = problem's

Clutch
01-07-2013, 01:13 PM
LeaderBe :bowdown:

brain drain
01-07-2013, 01:14 PM
Yeah, the problem is that Kobe's an aging chucker alpha and has trouble converting to a new Yoda self capable of teaching the corny Padawan. Instead he uses his agressive feelings and lets the hatred flow through him. And vents on Twitter. Soon yo'ull see the #darkside posts coming, then you know what's up!

tpols
01-07-2013, 01:18 PM
D'Antoni wants his players to run up and down the court. Lopez has stress problems in his foot and is the slowest human being in the world. I 100% disagree with your assessment of Lopez being a D'Antoni type of player. Note: D'Antoni wants Gasol gone. He doesn't want him on the team much less in the post. (Note: I LOVE Lopez game this year, but it fits on the Nets well, not on the Lakers at all.)

D'Antoni wants Gasol gone, and in his place wants shooters, players who can space the floor, and get down the court and into the offense quickly. You want to send him Lopez, Evans and Brooks (i love Brooks game but he's not a spot up guy). It doesn't make any sense.
You got it wrong dude.. Lopez is actually very good at running the court. He has long strides and covers ground quick. He's not slow at all in that regard.. Always hustle up and down well, and better than Gasol and Howard have this year. Where lopez is 'slow' is with his reflexes and quickness out of the triple threat or any stand still position. He doesn't explode at all. Running up and down the court hough? He's got that pretty good.

He's better on offense than Dwight and there would be zero controversy over touches. Would work perfectly off of the others work. And Marshon Brooks would be the best playmakers, ballhandler, and offensive talent on this Laker team other than Nash and kobe. He would make their bench ten times better.

NoGunzJustSkillz
01-07-2013, 01:26 PM
it was really uncomfortable watching kobe trying to win the game last night, but really what other choice did the lakers have? kobe and dwight both need to put their big boy pants on and get their sh!t together asap. kobe needs to be the bigger man and approach dwight because we sure as hell know dwight isn't going to.

andgar923
01-07-2013, 01:33 PM
Just because this happened a couple weeks ago and it got released today it doesn't mean it can't be true. There's things that happened that never get released, there's things that happened that take years for them to get leaked. It also doesn't mean that it is true either. :confusedshrug: But I'm willing to bet that it is real. Kobe's always had teammates issues, has always been hard to get along with. And Howard is a lil btch himself.

Whoah10115
01-07-2013, 01:33 PM
Howard's downfall would have nothing to do with being exposed as a basketball player...it would be this passive-aggressive crap. I'm not saying there will be a downfall, but if there was that would be it. And I'm not talking about this exchange but about this "We have to play together" crap. You're still injured. Get healthy. Be quiet.

Money 23
01-07-2013, 01:36 PM
Howard's downfall would have nothing to do with being exposed as a basketball player...it would be this passive-aggressive crap. I'm not saying there will be a downfall, but if there was that would be it. And I'm not talking about this exchange but about this "We have to play together" crap. You're still injured. Get healthy. Be quiet.
One of the most un-manly things to do IMO is be passive-aggressive.

To me that is a dead ringer of an indicator of a female like tendency and personality.

guy
01-07-2013, 01:42 PM
Dirk for Dwight or Deron/Lopez for Dwight/Nash makes sense.

STATUTORY
01-07-2013, 01:42 PM
One of the most un-manly things to do IMO is be passive-aggressive.

To me that is a dead ringer of an indicator of a female like tendency and personality.

when dwight howard put his arm around SVG after privately asking the GM for stan to be fired... that told me all I needed to know about that guy.

Dwight likes to talk about trust but how can someone trust a duplicitous passive aggressive guy like him is beyond me.

ShaqAttack3234
01-07-2013, 01:46 PM
As many problems as Kobe had with Shaq's leadership and work ethic at times, I think he respected him a hell of a lot more than Dwight. Not only do I think it's clear he respected his ability and level of play a lot more than Howard for obvious reasons, but as different as they were, I think their anger was pretty similar. As big as Howard is, I could see Kobe hitting him if he got pissed off enough, just like he did to Samaki Walker. I could never see him doing that with Shaq.


when dwight howard put his arm around SVG after privately asking the GM for stan to be fired... that told me all I needed to know about that guy.

Dwight likes to talk about trust but how can someone trust a duplicitous passive aggressive guy like him is beyond me.

Yeah, that was a terrible moment. I didn't think Stan handled it as well as he could have, though because making it public put the team in a worse situation. I did sympathize with Stan, though because I think he was a fine coach and he had always been good to Howard and built a successful team around Dwight's strengths.

upside24
01-07-2013, 01:53 PM
Howard's downfall would have nothing to do with being exposed as a basketball player...it would be this passive-aggressive crap. I'm not saying there will be a downfall, but if there was that would be it. And I'm not talking about this exchange but about this "We have to play together" crap. You're still injured. Get healthy. Be quiet.
I understand Howard is frustrated since he found out he is not Superman anymore and he may never be the same dominant defensive monster, but venting this frustration to the media isn't going to improve team chemistry.

The Lakers are struggling enough, no need to create more drama.

Howard has no filter when it comes to the media though so we can expect more shit like this.

joshwake
01-07-2013, 02:04 PM
more proof that Kobe is just a horrible leader.

KingLeBronJames
01-07-2013, 02:08 PM
Dwight's mouth piece says it's BS.


Stefan Bondy of the New York Daily News reports sources indicate that Dwight Howard had to be restrained from going after Kobe Bryant following a loss by the Los Angeles Lakers to the Philadelphia 76ers.

Bryant reportedly agreed with criticisms of Howard from Shaquille O'Neal that he is soft.

Sources tell RealGM that the incident categorically did not happen.

Sources also tell ESPN's Ramona Shelburne that there was no such incident.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/225446/Sources_Deny_Reported_Incident_Between_Kobe_Dwight

FlashDwyaneWade3
01-07-2013, 02:09 PM
How would the NYDaily would know about things inside the Lakers' locker room?

Punpun
01-07-2013, 02:10 PM
Yeah, no. Just go on his tweeter. Kobe's.

longtime lurker
01-07-2013, 02:14 PM
it was really uncomfortable watching kobe trying to win the game last night, but really what other choice did the lakers have? kobe and dwight both need to put their big boy pants on and get their sh!t together asap. kobe needs to be the bigger man and approach dwight because we sure as hell know dwight isn't going to.

I agree. If Howard was smart he's shut up and listen to Kobe and Nash because he can learn a lot about winning and leadership from those 2. But Kobe as the veteran needs to do what Shaq never did with him and that's reach out to Dwight and be the bigger man. But this whole story is BS so people are getting worked up over nothing.

JellyBean
01-07-2013, 02:22 PM
Pretty obvious it happened. Corn ball was taking shots at Bean in the media the other day.

Kobe knows the nerves to hit in an argument haha, going for the jugular.


LOL!! The Black Mamba don't play.

niko
01-07-2013, 02:23 PM
I love Net fans trying to pawn off Lopez for Dwight. He's a huge injury risk, there is no way that would happen. Lopez stepped wrong and the Nets sat him down for three weeks. People don't want to talk about it because it's not a happy topic but is anyone here telling me there is not another foot injury in his future? And the Lakers take that huge contract for four years?

dazzer87
01-07-2013, 02:27 PM
more proof that Kobe is just a horrible leader.


This. Kome was ever a leader, just another story of Kome chasing another bigs off the team. Nothing new here....:facepalm

Reverend Hoops
01-07-2013, 02:28 PM
He'll just stay. He's not leaving to go to Dallas or Atlanta with lesser teams. The Lakers can retool in 2014 with him, and no Kobe.


:oldlol: How?

KingLeBronJames
01-07-2013, 02:30 PM
Some people here actually believe the NYDaily?

NattyPButter
01-07-2013, 02:31 PM
The Lakers will stay on the path they are when u have Kobe chucking up shots all the time. He is not a great leader at all. You have 2 bigs on the team putting up high percentage shots last night but all u want to do is get your 30pt. He's wants to beat records more then he wants that championship this year. Ppl need to get off his nuts and realize the crap he is doing isn't right for the team.

KingLeBronJames
01-07-2013, 02:33 PM
The Lakers will stay on the path they are when u have Kobe chucking up shots all the time. He is not a great leader at all. You have 2 bigs on the team putting up high percentage shots last night but all u want to do is get your 30pt. He's wants to beat records more then he wants that championship this year. Ppl need to get off his nuts and realize the crap he is doing isn't right for the team.
I don't see anyone gripping about Kevin Durant when he chucks up shots.

Money 23
01-07-2013, 02:34 PM
You have 2 bigs on the team putting up high percentage shots last night but all u want to do is get your 30pt. He's wants to beat records more then he wants that championship this year.
I'm not hating, but I thought it was obvious myself. You can almost see the thought bubble in Kobe's mind while playing. It's not subtle.

I don't understand WHY he'd be playing like this if he was actually trying to win a ring. He didn't play like that in 2008, when his ability level was much higher.

Like you said it seems like here on out it's about personal records, getting that 30 ppg, proving he can still play, etc than it is about playing for a ring.

DavisWarriorsFan
01-07-2013, 02:43 PM
I don't see anyone gripping about Kevin Durant when he chucks up shots.
Sixers don't even complain about Allen Iverson when he chucks up shots. And they still play defense. People say Kobe is the problem He's shooting too much. That's why they're not playing defense. LAKERS SUCK ON DEFENSE. That's the real problem. Defense has been horrible since pre-season. Even when Kobe was only playing 20 minutes in the preseason their defense is horrible. I question some poster's basketball IQ here. Or even watch the games instead of looking at the Final scores and player's stats.

gasolina
01-07-2013, 02:50 PM
I love Net fans trying to pawn off Lopez for Dwight. He's a huge injury risk, there is no way that would happen. Lopez stepped wrong and the Nets sat him down for three weeks. People don't want to talk about it because it's not a happy topic but is anyone here telling me there is not another foot injury in his future? And the Lakers take that huge contract for four years?
Well to be fair some Laker posters swear that for them Lopez fits better than Dwight.

Be careful what you wish for

DetroitPistonFan
01-07-2013, 02:51 PM
Well to be fair some Laker posters swear that for them Lopez fits better than Dwight.

Be careful what you wish for
Lopez is not better than Dwight. Lopez is in the same level as Pau. Even prime Pau. But they're both no hall of famers.

niko
01-07-2013, 02:51 PM
Are there any real sources for this? It seems the sources that are vaguely reliable say this is all made up.

Haymaker
01-07-2013, 02:53 PM
Well to be fair some Laker posters swear that for them Lopez fits better than Dwight.

Be careful what you wish for

Yeah, they think LA's defense is shit, Lopez will make them softer than a tit.

KingLeBronJames
01-07-2013, 02:53 PM
Are there any real sources for this? It seems the sources that are vaguely reliable say this is all made up.
Dwight's mouth piece says it's not true so do you believe him?

chazzy
01-07-2013, 02:59 PM
BRECK ‏@breck_one
I'm reading reports that @kobebryant and @DwightHoward got into a heated exchange last night.

Kobe Bryant ‏@kobebryant
@breck_one not true chief. I keep it 100

niko
01-07-2013, 03:01 PM
Dwight's mouth piece says it's not true so do you believe him?
If it was just him, no. But the best "Source" that says it's true is Bondy and he's an awful source on NY sports much less national.

andgar923
01-07-2013, 03:04 PM
Because Laker sources have always been honest.

Rumor: Kobe and Shaq got into a confrontation
Source: No truth to this rumor

Rumor: Kobe and Phil got into it
Source: No truth to this rumor

:coleman:

KingLeBronJames
01-07-2013, 03:05 PM
If it was just him, no. But the best "Source" that says it's true is Bondy and he's an awful source on NY sports much less national.
He ain't the only one who said that it didn't happen.

coin24
01-07-2013, 03:06 PM
Shaq has been right all along, dwight = no skill, soft piece of shit:lol
Trade that useless cu*t, he won't re-sign anyway..

niko
01-07-2013, 03:07 PM
He ain't the only one who said that it didn't happen.

There aren't really good sources. Give me a good source. Not a person like Bondy who posts whatever they want.

Note: Because you want it to happen, and because it would be funny if it happened, doesn't mean it happened.

KingLeBronJames
01-07-2013, 03:12 PM
There aren't really good sources. Give me a good source. Not a person like Bondy who posts whatever they want.

Note: Because you want it to happen, and because it would be funny if it happened, doesn't mean it happened.
a few sources says it's not true. Dwight's mouth piece says its not true and ESPN report from California is says it's not true. I would believe a reporter in Cali reporting anything about their team then a reporter in New York. I don't see how he can get any inside info all the way over there.

niko
01-07-2013, 03:15 PM
a few sources says it's not true. Dwight's mouth piece says its not true and ESPN report from California is says it's not true. I would believe a reporter in Cali reporting anything about their team then a reporter in New York. I don't see how he can get any inside info all the way over there.

Plus it was Bondy. He's very quick to believe (and write about) situations that are bad.

andgar923
01-07-2013, 03:16 PM
a few sources says it's not true. Dwight's mouth piece says its not true and ESPN report from California is says it's not true. I would believe a reporter in Cali reporting anything about their team then a reporter in New York. I don't see how he can get any inside info all the way over there.
You made good points up to the bolded.

A. This allegedly happened in Philly
B. And even if it didn't, it aint like we communicate via smoke signals.

KingLeBronJames
01-07-2013, 03:18 PM
You made good points up to the bolded.

A. This allegedly happened in Philly
B. And even if it didn't, it aint like we communicate via smoke signals.
They beat them in Philly. :wtf: They're talking about the game in LA.

andgar923
01-07-2013, 03:22 PM
They beat them in Philly. :wtf: They're talking about the game in LA.

You're right I misread.

But my main point still stands tho.

Just because he's in a different city it doesn't mean he can't get info leaked to him. ESPN and other reporters get info leaked to them all the time regardless of where they are.

Now.. not saying the rumor is true (although I wouldn't be the least bit shocked), but one doesn't have to be in the same city.

boozehound
01-07-2013, 03:29 PM
Pretty sure if that 6'11 ear of corn stepped to Kobe's alpha, Bean would've popped him in his adam's apple in front of the whole team.

You're welcome.
whats it like being both untethered to reality and in love with another man?

Ken_Masters
01-07-2013, 03:30 PM
If i was Howard, i would have a beef with Bryant as well. I have watched Bryant closely for his entire career and for some inexplicable reason he is still playing hero ball even as his career winds down. If the opposing team is up by a few scores with a few minutes remaining, what will Bryant do? Will he A) Run the offense and search for the highest percentage shot to get his team within striking distance, or will he B) launch a contested 3 pointer even though that's clearly not the shot his team needs at the moment just so that he can be given all of the credit if they win. Anybody who has watched Bryant play throughout his career knows that he will take the contested 3 pointer 10 out of 10 times. He will never let go of hero ball and this is what i dislike about him the most. He wants all the credit for their victories.

andgar923
01-07-2013, 03:38 PM
If i was Howard, i would have a beef with Bryant as well. I have watched Bryant closely for his entire career and for some inexplicable reason he is still playing hero ball even as his career winds down. If the opposing team is up by a few scores with a few minutes remaining, what will Bryant do? Will he A) Run the offense and search for the highest percentage shot to get his team within striking distance, or will he B) launch a contested 3 pointer even though that's clearly not the shot his team needs at the moment just so that he can be given all of the credit if they win. Anybody who has watched Bryant play throughout his career knows that he will take the contested 3 pointer 10 out of 10 times. He will never let go of hero ball and this is what i dislike about him the most. He wants all the credit for their victories.

At times I don't blame him for going into hero ball if they're down. At times he kinda has too, that's what every star player must do in these situations aka 'Take over' and try to win the game.

My issue is how he goes about it in this instance.

My issue with Kobe is when they are winning, yet he goes for his regardless of how he and others are playing. If they're winning and other players have played well and he hasn't, he continues to jack up shots to get his stats. Something not exclusive to him, but he's alone in how often he does it.

AlphaWolf24
01-07-2013, 03:42 PM
At times I don't blame him for going into hero ball if they're down. At times he kinda has too, that's what every star player must do in these situations aka 'Take over' and try to win the game.

My issue is how he goes about it in this instance.

My issue with Kobe is when they are winning, yet he goes for his regardless of how he and others are playing. If they're winning and other players have played well and he hasn't, he continues to jack up shots to get his stats. Something not exclusive to him, but he's alone in how often he does it.


- real talk....do you even watch most Laker games?

- everything you said is 100% false.

andgar923
01-07-2013, 03:44 PM
- real talk....do you even watch most Laker games?

- everything you said is 100% false.

Of course you'd say that.

Rysio
01-07-2013, 03:46 PM
If i was Howard, i would have a beef with Bryant as well. I have watched Bryant closely for his entire career and for some inexplicable reason he is still playing hero ball even as his career winds down. If the opposing team is up by a few scores with a few minutes remaining, what will Bryant do? Will he A) Run the offense and search for the highest percentage shot to get his team within striking distance, or will he B) launch a contested 3 pointer even though that's clearly not the shot his team needs at the moment just so that he can be given all of the credit if they win. Anybody who has watched Bryant play throughout his career knows that he will take the contested 3 pointer 10 out of 10 times. He will never let go of hero ball and this is what i dislike about him the most. He wants all the credit for their victories.
hero ball got him 5 rings. he should continue doing what he is doing.

9erempiree
01-07-2013, 03:50 PM
I doubt this ever happened because if Kobe and Dwight got into it....we would have seen Dwight with a black eye or a busted nose.

crisoner
01-07-2013, 03:52 PM
If I was the Lakers I'd keep Howard and ship off Kobe.

Will not be popular of course but best course of action for the franchise future.

Hell we shipped out Shaq...Now ship out Kobe.

Remix
01-07-2013, 03:53 PM
At times I don't blame him for going into hero ball if they're down. At times he kinda has too, that's what every star player must do in these situations aka 'Take over' and try to win the game.

My issue is how he goes about it in this instance.

My issue with Kobe is when they are winning, yet he goes for his regardless of how he and others are playing. If they're winning and other players have played well and he hasn't, he continues to jack up shots to get his stats. Something not exclusive to him, but he's alone in how often he does it.
You'd be right if you said the exact opposite on every point you brought up.

AlphaWolf24
01-07-2013, 03:55 PM
Of course you'd say that.


You sound like a blind hater....

Kobe is a very smart and cerebral player.....

Whne the lakers are firing on all cylinders he doesn't just shoot to score....

You sound silly when you make those statements.

Ken_Masters
01-07-2013, 03:56 PM
hero ball got him 5 rings. he should continue doing what he is doing.

Hero ball is never a positive thing. It's not positive if MJ does it, if LeBron does it, or if Bryant does it. Coaches hate hero ball for a reason. They want their players to trust the system, trust their teammates, and take intelligent shots. Hero ball encompasses none of the above. Laker fans wonder why Bryant gets all the blame when they lose? It's simple. When you have a guy like Bryant who plays hero ball constantly and seeks all the glory for his teams successes, he should also take all the blame for their failures. If he is such an alpha like people are claiming him to be, he should have no problem accepting the blame for his teams current record.

tpols
01-07-2013, 03:57 PM
I love Net fans trying to pawn off Lopez for Dwight. He's a huge injury risk, there is no way that would happen. Lopez stepped wrong and the Nets sat him down for three weeks. People don't want to talk about it because it's not a happy topic but is anyone here telling me there is not another foot injury in his future? And the Lakers take that huge contract for four years?
Well your a Knicks fan.. So of course you don't want to see Dwight some to BK.your opinion on this matter is pretty much void because you're gonna spin it to fit your biases.

Blue&Orange
01-07-2013, 03:58 PM
hero ball got him 5 rings. he should continue doing what he is doing.
Good advice, Robert Horry got 7 rings doing what he did.

andgar923
01-07-2013, 03:58 PM
You sound like a blind hater....

Kobe is a very smart and cerebral player.....

Whne the lakers are firing on all cylinders he doesn't just shoot to score....

You sound silly when you make those statements.
:oldlol:

CAstill
01-07-2013, 03:59 PM
Good thing you're not the Lakers because that's just a dumb idea.
Kobe>>>Howard and it's very apparent. Lakers future shouldn't
be based on Howard. What happens when the franchise has
to depend on him to score? You know...win the game? lol
Howard needs to keep his mouth shut and improve his D.

AlphaWolf24
01-07-2013, 04:01 PM
:oldlol:


he averaged 35PPG in 2008 - 2010??

CAstill
01-07-2013, 04:05 PM
You're dumb too lol.
Kobe has never had a problem taking all the blame and he does.
The problem is when people fail to realize that other people
have to show up ready to play every game and don't. Then
look at Kobe as detrimental to the team because he was dedicated
enough to try and win no matter what the excuses are.
It's a team effort and only Kobe and sometimes Metta show
up to play every night consistently. No excuses for Howard and Pau.
Hero ball doesn't even come until the fourth. Why aren't Howard
and Pau dominating out the gate? You know when they receive
constant touches and should be dominating weaker teams.

CAstill
01-07-2013, 04:07 PM
And he played hero ball on the Rockets, Lakers and Spurs lol.
That fool went to shoot as soon as the ball came to him every time lol
I'm glad he did!

Ken_Masters
01-07-2013, 04:18 PM
You're dumb too lol.
Kobe has never had a problem taking all the blame and he does.
The problem is when people fail to realize that other people
have to show up ready to play every game and don't. Then
look at Kobe as detrimental to the team because he was dedicated
enough to try and win no matter what the excuses are.
It's a team effort and only Kobe and sometimes Metta show
up to play every night consistently. No excuses for Howard and Pau.
Hero ball doesn't even come until the fourth. Why aren't Howard
and Pau dominating out the gate? You know when they receive
constant touches and should be dominating weaker teams.

It's one thing just giving them touches, but how about actually setting them up for once? How about Bryant penetrating the defense and setting them up for easy baskets? Isn't that what all the great ones do? Don't the great ones create easy opportunities for their teammates? It's one thing to just throw those guys the ball on the post and expect them to do something with it. It's another if you see that they aren't doing anything with it and trying another way to get them easy shots/looks.

CAstill
01-07-2013, 04:22 PM
Dude are you watching the game?
They did that.
Howard missed all the shots or just got stripped/turned over the ball.
When it was the same scenario with Jordan Hill, Hill hit the Mid range shot lol.
Too bad we won't sit Howard for Hill full time.

Artillery
01-07-2013, 04:24 PM
Dude are you watching the game?
They did that.
Howard missed all the shots or just got stripped/turned over the ball.
When it was the same scenario with Jordan Hill, Hill hit the Mid range shot lol.
Too bad we won't sit Howard for Hill full time.

Only a Kobe fan would believe that Jordan Hill is a more productive player than Howard

CAstill
01-07-2013, 04:27 PM
No only a LAKER fan can admit when one player on the bench (Hill)
is out hustling and playing better defense than our over payed Star (Howard)
Try watching the games dummy

DonDadda59
01-07-2013, 04:47 PM
I doubt this ever happened because if Kobe and Dwight got into it....we would have seen Dwight with a black eye or a busted nose.

Riiiight, because Kobe = The Chuck Norris of Basketball :oldlol:

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs2/1267594_o.gif

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/429269_o.gif

How do you get manhandled by Reggie Miller? (http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/5520708084/reggie-miller-fights-kobe-from-that-happened) :wtf:

Dwight would squash that fugazi like a bug on a windshield. Get real.

Kujo
01-07-2013, 04:50 PM
Dwight won't be a Laker next year. Book it.

ThunderStruk022
01-07-2013, 05:00 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BACQec2CUAEarIw.jpg

chazzy
01-07-2013, 05:01 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BACQec2CUAEarIw.jpg
:oldlol:

ZenMaster
01-07-2013, 05:01 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BACQec2CUAEarIw.jpg


:oldlol:

ralph_i_el
01-07-2013, 05:29 PM
He'll just stay. He's not leaving to go to Dallas or Atlanta with lesser teams. The Lakers can retool in 2014 with him, and no Kobe.

People forget too there are no S&T for teams over the cap anymore so unless the Lakers are blowing up their season in the middle there aren't real suitors.

where's kobe going?

No_Look604
01-07-2013, 05:35 PM
Dwight still mad about getting his azzz rizaped by Kobe in the finals.

Double clutch, hang time, adjustment to faciaaaaal! Remember Dwight?

OMG, and I almost forgot the time Kobe rested in ******* on dwight's forehead!!! Now that is a fcukin dunk!

bdreason
01-07-2013, 05:47 PM
Lakers need to trade Howard, because he's not resigning.

AlphaWolf24
01-07-2013, 05:51 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BACQec2CUAEarIw.jpg

too much Alpha for one thread .....:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

TheBigVeto
01-07-2013, 06:29 PM
If Dwight doesn't smack Kobe before he leaves LA, he fails in life.

Derka
01-07-2013, 07:38 PM
lol @ everyone who got all analytical and got trolled as a result :oldlol: