Harden > Kobe

[millwad]

Kobe's days are over, the best SG in the league is James Harden.

[Kiddlovesnets]

Of course Harden is. Hes a top 10 player of the league, Kobe is not.

[StateOfMind12]

Obviously, anyone who isn't a Kobe stan knows this.

#BallSoHarden is a top 5 player in the league.

[DuMa]

Kobe's days are over, the best SG in the league is James Harden.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-FRUWnC0UcJ8/UB7DFrlDL4I/AAAAAAAACH8/rzUepy5Xpmw/s1600/christian-bale-kermit-the-frog.gif

[strifed169]

Harden made Kobe look amateur tonight, fear the beard

[Noob Saibot]

we didn't see Kobe Jordan tonight. Tonight we saw Oldbe Bryant.

[scandisk_]

Kobe can kick Harden's ass anytime he wants :sleeping

[Michael_Wilbon]

Harden is a poor mans J.R. Smith.

[rhythmic]

Of course Harden is. Hes a top 10 player of the league, Kobe is not.

You're a top 10 idiot on this forum, fighting for that number one spot.

[LoneyROY7]

Harden is a poor mans J.R. Smith.

If by poor you mean filthy rich...then yes.

[TylerOO]

I said a month ago that Harden was 2 behind Kobe, but since then I changed my mind. Harden is much more complete, a true closer, gets his teammates involved. He is better. Give him prime Shaq or Dwight and you would see greatness.

[Kiddlovesnets]

[QUOTE=rhythmic

[Graviton]

I said a month ago that Harden was 2 behind Kobe, but since then I changed my mind. Harden is much more complete, a true closer, gets his teammates involved. He is better. Give him prime Shaq or Dwight and you would see greatness.
Dude seems to shit any team besides OKC lol. Durant, Ibaka and Westbrook just completely shut him down, it's weird.

[tmacattack33]

Tonight it definitely looked like it.

Kobe's still had the better season so far though by a decent amount.

[TylerOO]

Dude seems to shit any team besides OKC lol. Durant, Ibaka and Westbrook just completely shut him down, it's weird.

Yea thats the only team he can't play against for some reason :lol

[oh the horror]

Tonight it definitely looked like it.

Kobe's still had the better season so far though by a decent amount.



Not to mention, uh....an entire career.

[rhythmic]

I said a month ago that Harden was 2 behind Kobe, but since then I changed my mind. Harden is much more complete, a true closer, gets his teammates involved. He is better. Give him prime Shaq or Dwight and you would see greatness.

What are you guys smoking tonight?

26.4 PPG - 5.3 APG - 4.2 RPG - 23.5 PER - 45 FG% - 36 3PT% - 86 FT% - 3.5 TO - 2.0 SPG - 38 MPG

30.5 PPG - 4.8 APG - 5.2 RPG - 25.5 PER - 48 FG% - 36 3PT% - 85 FT% - 3.4 TO - 1.5 SPG - 39 MPG

Previous 2 meetings:

Kobe - 39 points, 6 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 steals, 3 turnovers, (14 for 31).
Harden - 15 points, 10 rebounds, 6 assists, 1 steal, 4 turnovers (3 for 19).

Kobe - 22 points, 11 rebounds, 11 assists, 3 steals, 3 turnovers (9 for 18)
Harden - 20 points, 2 rebounds, 7 assists, 1 steal, 5 turnovers (7 for 18)

:oldlol: Yeah Harden is really #1 SG in the league, right guys?
Quit overreacting over tonight's game, geez.

[chazzy]

Tonight for sure, not for the year though

[red1]

kobe is still better. not for long the n*gga is 34

[StateOfMind12]

kobe is still better. not for long the n*gga is 34
Harden is like 23

Harden has the young hard dick, Kobe has an old saggy one. Harden is better.

[Doctor Rivers]

Harden is like 23

Harden has the young hard dick, Kobe has an old saggy one. Harden is better.

uhh

[DMV2]

What are you guys smoking tonight?

26.4 PPG - 5.3 APG - 4.2 RPG - 23.5 PER - 45 FG% - 36 3PT% - 86 FT% - 3.5 TO - 2.0 SPG - 38 MPG

30.5 PPG - 4.8 APG - 5.2 RPG - 25.5 PER - 48 FG% - 36 3PT% - 85 FT% - 3.4 TO - 1.5 SPG - 39 MPG

Previous 2 meetings:

Kobe - 39 points, 6 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 steals, 3 turnovers, (14 for 31).
Harden - 15 points, 10 rebounds, 6 assists, 1 steal, 4 turnovers (3 for 19).

Kobe - 22 points, 11 rebounds, 11 assists, 3 steals, 3 turnovers (9 for 18)
Harden - 20 points, 2 rebounds, 7 assists, 1 steal, 5 turnovers (7 for 18)

:oldlol: Yeah Harden is really #1 SG in the league, right guys?
Quit overreacting over tonight's game, geez.
I don't know if stats can really determine who's having the better season because the Rockets are blowing out teams on half of their wins anyway.

Harden sits when his team gets a 10+ point lead late in the 4th. Kobe would still be on the the floor majority of the time.

Plus, Harden is taking 5 less shots per game in spite of having Lin as his #2 option. Kobe is still jacking up 22 shots a night with Dwight. It should actually be the other way around. Harden should be taking more shots b/c of Lin's shitty offense. Kobe should be taking less shot b/c he has the best center in the league, or at least he(DH12) was until he showed in LA.

[upside24]

Harden is like 23

Harden has the young hard dick, Kobe has an old saggy one. Harden is better.
Dude likes that Harden dick.

[StateOfMind12]

Dude likes that Harden dick.
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mali2szgMI1rfes31o1_r2_400.gif

[HorryIsMyMVP]

Kobe is better at padding stats though. That is all that truly matters.

[upside24]

Harden had a geat game.

He is deadly in transition. One of the most explosive scorers.

[Heavincent]

Is RG talking about ***** again? :facepalm

[TylerOO]

Harden is like 23

Harden has the young hard dick, Kobe has an old saggy one. Harden is better.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[DMV2]

I don't know if stats can really determine who's having the better season because the Rockets are blowing out teams on half of their wins anyway.

Harden sits when his team gets a 10+ point lead late in the 4th. Kobe would still be on the the floor majority of the time.

Plus, Harden is taking 5 less shots per game in spite of having Lin as his #2 option. Kobe is still jacking up 22 shots a night with Dwight. It should actually be the other way around. Harden should be taking more shots b/c of Lin's shitty offense. Kobe should be taking less shot b/c he has the best center in the league, or at least he(DH12) was until he showed in LA.
P.S. 21-14 with Lin, Asik and Parsons as his supporting cast.

Compared to under .500 with Howard, Gasol and Nash.

I never see anybody posting Lin > Nash, or Asik > Howard, or Parsons > Gasol so I doubt Harden has the better supporting cast.

Like it or not, the Beard is carrying a former third-stringer and an overpaid + overhyped former undrafted benchwarmer, and a skinny whiteboy. While Kobe has 3 former All-Stars(incl. two soon-to-be HOFers) as his teammates.

[upside24]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mali2szgMI1rfes31o1_r2_400.gif
:lol Strange reply given the subject matter.

Do you long to be near the beard?

[rhythmic]

P.S. 21-14 with Lin, Asik and Parsons as his supporting cast.

Compared to under .500 with Howard, Gasol and Nash.

I never see anybody posting Lin > Nash, or Asik > Howard, or Parsons > Gasol so I doubt Harden has the better supporting cast.

Like it or not, the Beard is carrying a former third-stringer and an overpaid + overhyped former undrafted benchwarmer, and a skinny whiteboy. While Kobe has 3 former All-Stars(incl. two soon-to-be HOFers) as his teammates.

Yes, but the Lakers aren't defending.
Offensively, LA are just fine. You're saying Harden is better then Kobe because his team has a better record? Kobe has better stats, has played better this season; has been more efficient then Harden. It's a team sport, LA are struggling because of defensive woes.

Individually, Kobe is having a better season; any idiot can see that.
Houston beat LA in their previous meeting when Harden shot 3 for 19 and Kobe scored 39 points for LA.

[DMV2]

Yes, but the Lakers aren't defending.
Offensively, LA are just fine. You're saying Harden is better then Kobe because his team has a better record? Kobe has better stats, has played better this season; has been more efficient then Harden. It's a team sport, LA are struggling because of defensive woes.

Individually, Kobe is having a better season; any idiot can see that.
Houston beat LA in their previous meeting when Harden shot 3 for 19 and Kobe scored 39 points for LA.
One of the reasons. I already stated why Kobe has more PPG in the post prior to the one you quoted.

And yes, team record is also a factor to individual statistics when it comes to ranking. If it wasn't then Kevin Love would have finished in the top 3 MVP voting in the past two seasons.

Right now, Harden has a better chance at MVP than Kobe does.

[talamo]

Harden is like 23

Harden has the young hard dick, Kobe has an old saggy one. Harden is better.

http://cdn.mediatakeout.com/60549/on-blasssst-twitter-heaux-goes-in-on-nba-baller-james-harden-says-he-got-f-cked-up-teeth-and-a-little-d-ck-pics-of-the-girl.html

[TheBigVeto]

Kobe's days are over, the best SG in the league is James Harden.

I am not sure if Harden is the best SG in the league.

But I am sure Harden is better than Kobe.

and I am sure whoever disagrees is a Kobetard.

[KOBE143]

I am not sure if TheBigVeto is the worst f*gg*t in ISH.

But I am sure TheBigVeto is worse than any f*gg*t here.

and I am sure whoever disagrees is a f*gg*t.

FTFY

[PistolPete44]

FTFY
no wonder people hate kobe fans

[maybeshewill13]

Kobe's days are over, the best SG in the league is James Harden.
http://i.imgur.com/kzsCk.jpg

[KOBE143]

no wonder people hate kobe fans
no wonder people dont take PistolePete44 seriously

[LoneyROY7]

Hol' up...tell me what you see. Pull up. Swerve. Watch these muhf*ckas freak.

The young guns are taking over.

[maybeshewill13]

no wonder people dont take PistolePete44 seriously
Dude's right, deal with it.

http://i.imgur.com/OU3hq.jpg

[knicksman]

Kobe is better at padding stats though. That is all that truly matters.

This. Kobe has exposed his IQ without pjax whereas harden didnt need a pjax to play within the flow of the offense.

[spiegel]

Harden was blowin by Kobe with ease. There was 5 plays where he tore Kobe to shreds off the dribble. One was where Kobe got physicall and Harden finished an and 1 with one hand. 4 more where he just killed him off the dribble and blew by him .After that Kobe never guarded in the second half.

Harden has pretty much destroyed every big name wing defender this season. Ony guy who gave im trouble was Tony Allen in Memphis and in the return bout in Houston Harden destroyed him.

[millwad]

Anyone who talks about Kobe's PPG average compared to Harden's is an idiot, look at their record and look who's leading his team to victories compared to who's not.

And Kobe is putting up the stats but then compare it to the actual wins and consider the fact that he's playing with Nash, Pau and Howard.

[AirFederer]

P.S. 21-14 with Lin, Asik and Parsons as his supporting cast.

Compared to under .500 with Howard, Gasol and Nash.

I never see anybody posting Lin > Nash, or Asik > Howard, or Parsons > Gasol so I doubt Harden has the better supporting cast.

Like it or not, the Beard is carrying a former third-stringer and an overpaid + overhyped former undrafted benchwarmer, and a skinny whiteboy. While Kobe has 3 former All-Stars(incl. two soon-to-be HOFers) as his teammates.

:cheers:

[pnyozzzoo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkgFTaLOld0

Man the first play in the video, so nasty.

Harden eat Kobe and his old man strength raw like a sushi fish still moving in your mouth. Kobe got so mad.

It's awesome and sad at the same time. Legends at the tail end of their careers getting embarrassed by young blood. Kobe may retire if Lakers fail to make the play off:cry:

[Shepseskaf]

Harden has pretty much destroyed every big name wing defender this season.
Not true. He's had trouble with other long, athletic perimeter defenders like Batum and Iggy.

[Vertical-24]

Overreaction thread. Kobe is and will remain better than Harden this season and possibly next (I said possibly...Harden does have youth on his side). Kobe was clearly the better player their last meeting....yet you guys don't care. Kobe has had the better individual season hands down. Team success? Harden for sure. L.A. is struggling as a whole. We have one of the best offenses in the league, and among the very worst defense in the league. And while Dwight and Pau are out, Kobe will just be playing with Nash/Artest and a bunch of D-Leaguers.

Kobe is the best SG in the league and anyone who actually watches Basketball knows this. Don't be a f*ckboy :facepalm

[DCL]

kobe stans are running out of excuses. their boy's just can't do it like they want him to. he's only producing some worthless garbage stats this season while missing out on the biggest stat that matters: the W. it's just like the old days again...

[Vertical-24]

kobe stans are running out of excuses. their boy's just can't do it like they want him to. he's only producing some worthless garbage stats this season while missing out on the biggest stat that matters: the W. it's just like the old days again...

So in 87 when MJ was putting up 37 5 5 , were those garbage stats because his team was .488? Below .500? Team success is in the hands of the TEAM. No matter who your teammates are, no matter what the circumstance may be...its a team game and team success is reliant on team cooperation/responsibility. Don't be a dufus :facepalm

[pnyozzzoo]

So in 87 when MJ was putting up 37 5 5 , were those garbage stats because his team was .488? Below .500? Team success is in the hands of the TEAM. No matter who your teammates are, no matter what the circumstance may be...its a team game and team success is reliant on team cooperation/responsibility. Don't be a dufus :facepalm
But why after playing in the league for 17 years when you have an HoF squad, do you not want to play smart ball. Shooting 40 times a game while leave your HOF teammates high and dry, not play a lick of defense and expect others to cover all your mistakes...

MJ did those in the 80s coz he knows his team had no chance of winning its all stats padding and fame gathering first. Kobe did this with Smush parker era people have no problem. But now?

[STATUTORY]

But why after playing in the league for 17 years when you have an HoF squad, do you not want to play smart ball. Shooting 40 times a game while leave your HOF teammates high and dry, not play a lick of defense and expect others to cover all your mistakes...

MJ did those in the 80s coz he knows his team had no chance of winning its all stats padding and fame gathering first. Kobe did this with Smush parker era people have no problem. But now?

shot only 22 times yesterday... lakers lost by 12

[Bigsmoke]

Obviously, anyone who isn't a Kobe stan knows this.

#BallSoHarden is a top 5 player in the league.

lol u were just shitting on Harden before the season started. :confusedshrug:

[chains5000]

shot only 22 times yesterday... lakers lost by 12
20 points on 22 shots! #gawdbe

[tazb]

Harden's been better since 2010...How are you with a team of 4 HOFs and a record of 15-19? smh

[spiegel]

Not true. He's had trouble with other long, athletic perimeter defenders like Batum and Iggy.
Iggy yes. Batum not so much. Iggy can stay with him off the dribble Batum cant. Iggy gave him some fits, but that was the sametime he was going through an adjustment period where he was getting used to teams throwing all their defensive sets at him. Tony Allen gave him fits as well in their first meeting at that time, but Harden tore him in the next bout during his current streak.

He has clearly adjusted now to teams zeroing on him.

[BoutPractice]

The fact that we're even having this conversation shows just how incredible Harden has been this season. Talk about a breakout year...

[Doranku]

Harden is completely manufactured by the refs. Dude would be a homeless man's Jamal Crawford without the refs bailing him out on all of his out of control drives. He wasn't getting those superstar calls in the finals last year. What happened then? :roll:

Kobe >>>>>>>>>>>> Harden
Wade >>>>>>>>>>>> Harden
Eric Gordon >>>>>>>>>> Harden

[millwad]

Harden is completely manufactured by the refs. Dude would be a homeless man's Jamal Crawford without the refs bailing him out on all of his out of control drives. He wasn't getting those superstar calls in the finals last year. What happened then? :roll:

Kobe >>>>>>>>>>>> Harden
Wade >>>>>>>>>>>> Harden
Eric Gordon >>>>>>>>>> Harden

Butthurt.

[Bigsmoke]

Harden's been better since 2010...How are you with a team of 4 HOFs and a record of 15-19? smh

Nash missed a lot of games and is old, Gasol old, Dwight is hurt.

the Lakers would be even worse with James Harden.

[niko]

It's not comparable. Kobe plays under enormous pressure, Harden is playing under essentially none. Kobe will be declared an enormous failure this year if things continue like this, Harden doesn't even need to make the playoffs. If Harden has a particularly bad game, he doesn't address the media that day and just leaves. It's not comparable at all. If you put Kobe in a situation and said "no pressure, if you lose it's ok, just put up numbers" what would he do? We've seen it before.

[madmax]

Bryant's PER - 25,11
Harden's PER - 23.89

Bryant also shoots better from the field and neither plays a lick of defense to speak off. So nope, Kobrick is still better:cheers:

[SilkkTheShocker]

Amazing how stacked OKC was last season. One of the most talented teams in NBA history?

[pnyozzzoo]

Amazing how stacked OKC was last season. One of the most talented teams in NBA history?
Like I said 3 top 10 players and 1 top 10 PF this year,was just too raw, need time. Too bad small market team got no time to give.

[niko]

Amazing how stacked OKC was last season. One of the most talented teams in NBA history?
No, too young and inexperienced. Plus the league had talent much more concentrated. Look at some of those old Laker and Celtic teams where there were HOFers left and right and they weren't young and raw, plus they had more quality size.

[pnyozzzoo]

Bryant's PER - 25,11
Harden's PER - 23.89

Bryant also shoots better from the field and neither plays a lick of defense to speak off. So nope, Kobrick is still better:cheers:
Kobe shots more and higher usage. But harden is more efficient with higher TS%.
Harden is trending up since mid December and Kobe is trending down, do not be surprised in a month Harden is 24.5 and Kobe is 24 Per. Kobe is old, as season goes on his per always comes down also.

Harden and Kobe both likes to turn defensive possessions off. The thing is when game gets tight Harden can turn it on, Kobe does not have on switch anymore.

I do not hate Kobe, I think he is legendary but he is not playing smart and winning basketball.

[TMac&Luther]

It's not comparable. Kobe plays under enormous pressure, Harden is playing under essentially none. Kobe will be declared an enormous failure this year if things continue like this, Harden doesn't even need to make the playoffs. If Harden has a particularly bad game, he doesn't address the media that day and just leaves. It's not comparable at all. If you put Kobe in a situation and said "no pressure, if you lose it's ok, just put up numbers" what would he do? We've seen it before.

So a player who didn't even start on his team suddenly gets traded for, is given a max contract, and is expected to be the face of his new franchise doesn't have any "preasure". :roll: Dude whatever you're smoking, I'll have some of that.

Look, father time is undefeated.. James Harden is now > than Kobe.

[TylerOO]

Amazing how stacked OKC was last season. One of the most talented teams in NBA history?

Definitely. Crazy how a one man show in LeBron took them out in 5. Don't know how he did it!

[scm5]

Combined 3 games between Kobe and Harden this season:

Kobe: 81 pts on 44% shooting, 22 rebounds, 20 assists, 8 steals, 0 blocks, 11 turnovers, 111 minutes

Harden: 66 points on 38% shooting, 18 rebounds, 22 assists, 2 steals, 0 blocks, 13 turnovers, 115 minutes

Kobe pretty thoroughly dominates Harden.

[AlphaWolf24]

kobe stans are running out of excuses. their boy's just can't do it like they want him to. he's only producing some worthless garbage stats this season while missing out on the biggest stat that matters: the W. it's just like the old days again...


hey wait!

I thoughts check my "stats" was in?

I thought winning doesn't really matter since it's just a product of having great teammates who can make shots, make shots in crunchtime make shots in the playff's make shots in the Finals, good coaching,good oaching the playof's,good oaching in the finals, good athletic trainers,good athletictrainers in the plaoffs,god athletic trainers in teh finals,good owners, good parking vlets,good ticket holders etc...etc....

- darnit!...for the past 7 seasons itwas all about check my stats....now it's it's just about winning??:hammerhead: :hammerhead: :hammerhead:

[Connor B]

Like I said 3 top 10 players and 1 top 10 PF this year,was just too raw, need time. Too bad small market team got no time to give.

If you think Harden was a top ten player last year you don't deserve to be an NBA fan.

[DetroitPistonFan]

I don't like Kobe but you guys are idiots.

[upside24]

All I know is that Harden is a scoring machine that is incredible in transition, can take people off the dribble, has range, sneaky athleticism and not only that but is one of the best non PG facilitators in the league.

He is the biggest reason for the Rockets' success though Lin has really picked up his level of play the last dozen games.

Harden is a far better player than I expected. I knew he was good in OKC, but didn't know if he could handle increased minutes and defensive attention.

He has been incredible.

[brandonislegend]

Harden is completely manufactured by the refs. Dude would be a homeless man's Jamal Crawford without the refs bailing him out on all of his out of control drives. He wasn't getting those superstar calls in the finals last year. What happened then? :roll:

Kobe >>>>>>>>>>>> Harden
Wade >>>>>>>>>>>> Harden
Eric Gordon >>>>>>>>>> Harden

Out of control drives, do you even watch basketball the reason he gets calls is because he is completely under control and has one of the best if not the best euro step in the league you can't guard him going to the basket without fouling or giving him an easy look.

[funnystuff]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkgFTaLOld0

Man the first play in the video, so nasty.

Harden eat Kobe and his old man strength raw like a sushi fish still moving in your mouth. Kobe got so mad.

It's awesome and sad at the same time. Legends at the tail end of their careers getting embarrassed by young blood. Kobe may retire if Lakers fail to make the play off:cry:
Kobe flopped hard at 1:06.

Suspension?

[upside24]

millwad is a compulsive lying sloppy fat ass. this dude just doesn't stop trying to get attention so people will talk to him. sad suicidal swede :facepalm
And what exactly do you bring to the table?

[millwad]

millwad is a compulsive lying sloppy fat ass. this dude just doesn't stop trying to get attention so people will talk to him. sad suicidal swede :facepalm
^
You're so pathetic, you 40 year old korean virgin.

1. You're korean and koreans are the most suicidal people in the world.
2. You're korean, korean male's have the smallest ***** in the world.
3. You're a sucker, you have been here for 6+ years with multiple accounts and you've been permbanned at least 2 times and still you come like a sad dog craving for attention. And you're a grown ass virgin man living at home while working at your dad's autobodyshop.

You're the same idiot who cried out 5 years ago on ISH about how you were going to leave, hell, you even wrote a good bye post and you followed up your good bye post with yet another edited good bye post.. :facepalm

You're sad as hell..

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27402

[millwad]

And what exactly do you bring to the table?

Nothing at all, he is the most banned poster in ISH history;

Smokee - Perm-banned
Poodle - Perm-banned
Godzuki - banned multiple of times

Then he had two more accounts a la "Broomhilda" and "Budaas", and on top of that, the guy is is a grown man who's working at his dad's auto body shop. The guy with two perm-banned accounts and in total 5 accounts is trying to call me out..

[Deuce Bigalow]

Yeah lets just go by one game, or how about 2 games?

The first 2 games of LAL/HOU

11/18/12
Kobe 22/11/11 on 50%
Harden 20/2/7 on 39%

12/4/12
Kobe 39/6/2 on 45%
Harden 15/10/6 on 16%

[LakersFan626]

[QUOTE=rhythmic

[HurricaneKid]

Seems like a really bad day to bump this thread.

[Fazotronic]

Seems like a really bad day to bump this thread.

considering the fact that kobe isn't even playing it really doesn't matter how poor harden is playing

[PickernRoller]

considering the fact that kobe isn't even playing it really doesn't matter how poor harden is playing

By not playing Kobe isn't hurting the Lakers chances. Harden meanwhile....:oldlol: