Spurs to sign Aussie big man Aron Baynes

[Grinder]

I've seen this guy play a bunch of times and he's got a fair bit of game. He's 7'0" in shoes (http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Aron-Baynes-5086/)and around 270 lbs and uses his size well to grab rebounds and score in the paint. He also has a decent mid range J. He'll make a solid 4th or 5th big for the Spurs.

He averaged 14/10 in the Euroleague this past season (his team was terrible) and led the first phase in rebounding.


Aron Baynes contract details (unconfirmed): 750k (prorated?), 750k, 2 million, 2 million. Last two years at Spurs options. Cheap deal for SA


http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=207862&p=6286712#post6286712
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Aron-Baynes-5086/

[madmax]

good move.
Athletic, strong and tough big man will help Spurs tremendously. He should be doing even better in NBA than in Europe in my opinion:cheers:

[madmax]

I've seen this guy play a bunch of times and he's got a fair bit of game. He's 7'0" in shoes and around 270 lbs and uses his size well to grab rebounds and score in the paint. He also has a decent mid range J. He'll make a solid 4th or 5th big for the Spurs.

He averaged 14/10 in the Euroleague this past season (his team was terrible) and led the first phase in rebounding.



http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=207862&p=6286712#post6286712
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Aron-Baynes-5086/

hardly.
He's 6'10 barefeet

[JohnnySic]

If the Spurs are adding an international guy, he's probably pretty good.

[andremiller07]

The guy is strong as an oxe, hes not the most athletic in terms of explosiveness hes kinda a poor mans Petkoivc I would say.

[Grinder]

hardly.
He's 6'10 barefeet


Measured 6'10.5" barefoot at the combine and 7' in shoes at the draft combine a few years ago.

[dbugz]

If the Spurs are adding an international guy, he's probably pretty good.

Something Ainge is really bad at.. especially the big ones. :facepalm

[alenleomessi]

from the olympics he seemed like a skilled but not so bright young man
pop should fix that though

[Wonder Bread Kid]

The guy is strong as an oxe, hes not the most athletic in terms of explosiveness hes kinda a poor mans Petkoivc I would say.

Dude gets up for a big man. He dunks nearly every time around the rim.

[andremiller07]

Dude gets up for a big man. He dunks nearly every time around the rim.

Really I watched him play for most his college career/Australia and while yeah he could dunk I never really thought of him as a explosive athlete. Maybe hes closer to Jason Smith than my memory might be letting me down.

[madmax]

The guy is strong as an oxe, hes not the most athletic in terms of explosiveness hes kinda a poor mans Petkoivc I would say.

he has much better hops than Pekovic, trust me...I've watched every single game of this guy when he played for my favorite team. He has all the physical tools to succeed, only missing in skills and brain department a bit:lol

[JerryWest]

he has much better hops than Pekovic, trust me...I've watched every single game of this guy when he played for my favorite team. He has all the physical tools to succeed, only missing in skills and brain department a bit:lol
So he's basically Javale Mcgee :confusedshrug:

[andremiller07]

he has much better hops than Pekovic, trust me...I've watched every single game of this guy when he played for my favorite team. He has all the physical tools to succeed, only missing in skills and brain department a bit:lol

The comparsion to Pekovic was more in that there bodies are made out of steel and are both a bit stiff, I guess a cross between Pek/Jason Smith is a better way of looking at it.

[T-Time3]

If the Spurs are adding an international guy, he's probably pretty good.
agree
but nando de colo has been a bit "shy", no ?

[ClintDogg]

This guy wont last long.

The only reason hes getting a "look in" is because the Australian Coach (Brett Brown/since stepped down too) is a Spurs Assistant.

Ive seen him play a few Olympic Exhibition games here in Australia, we have plenty of other Aussies that are a lot better than this guy.

[andremiller07]

, we have plenty of other Aussies that are a lot better than this guy.

I always thought Nathan Jawai was better and could have done more in the NBA. Good to see him playing for Barcalona with Joe Ingels tho.

[el gringos]

Go cougs

[ClintDogg]

I always thought Nathan Jawai was better and could have done more in the NBA. Good to see him playing for Barcalona with Joe Ingels tho.

Nathan Jawai
Joe Ingels
Julian Khazzouh are ALL HEAPs better players than this Baynes guy.

David Anderson
Matt Neilson..... I could go on.

[kNIOKAS]

If that's the guy that was on lrytas I don't care who he is but he must be terrible. I probably went to a game where he's been playing and I'm not sure he stood out. Would do OK on Spurs, if played right, but no gamechanger.

[Fiba basketball]

Some bad things about him : He makes fouls very quick , is a bad ft shooter and is a dirty player ( he knocked out his opponen't from the back and when he got unsportsmanlike faul because of that he started arguing with the refs ) so I hope someone will beat him up . You shouldn't expect much from him , he will be back up C at best but even that probably won't happen .

[Euroleague]

hardly.
He's 6'10 barefeet

That mean's he's 6-10 in Euroleague, but 7-0 in the NBA. He magically grew 2 inches the moment he signed with the Spurs.

Anyway, he's better than Splitter is.

[Euroleague]

The comparsion to Pekovic was more in that there bodies are made out of steel and are both a bit stiff, I guess a cross between Pek/Jason Smith is a better way of looking at it.

Neither Baynes nor Pekovic are stiffs. Put down the crack pipe. Baynes is extremely athletic for his size.

[Grinder]

Some bad things about him : He makes fouls very quick , is a bad ft shooter and is a dirty player ( he knocked out his opponen't from the back and when he got unsportsmanlike faul because of that he started arguing with the refs ) so I hope someone will beat him up . You shouldn't expect much from him , he will be back up C at best but even that probably won't happen .

He's around 70% from the line which isn't too bad for a guy his size.


Nathan Jawai
Joe Ingels
Julian Khazzouh are ALL HEAPs better players than this Baynes guy.

David Anderson
Matt Neilson..... I could go on.

Khazzouh plays in the Lebanese league and even then is the fifth leading scorer on his team. :roll:

Jawai is easily prone to getting out of shape and is much slower and less athletic than Baynes.

Andersen is good but turning 33 and is very soft.

Nielsen is washed up and averages 3 ppg for Khimki. Even Daniel Kickert is way better than him now.

Ingles is an NBA rotation player for sure but doesn't fit a need for the Spurs.

[Euroleague]

So he's basically Javale Mcgee :confusedshrug:

No. Complete polar opposite.

[Euroleague]

Nathan Jawai
Joe Ingels
Julian Khazzouh are ALL HEAPs better players than this Baynes guy.

David Anderson
Matt Neilson..... I could go on.

David Andersen yes. That is if we are counting David Andersen in his prime. Not now though. The others..........no freaking way.

And I like Ingles and Jawai.

[Euroleague]

He's around 70% from the line which isn't too bad for a guy his size.



Khazzouh plays in the Lebanese league and even then is the fifth leading scorer on his team. :roll:

Jawai is easily prone to getting out of shape and is much slower and less athletic than Baynes.

Andersen is good but turning 33 and is very soft.

Nielsen is washed up and averages 3 ppg for Khimki. Even Daniel Kickert is way better than him now.

Ingles is an NBA rotation player for sure but doesn't fit a need for the Spurs.


Once again, you prove you are a troll.

[Jyap9675]

Ohh another player from the from the outback ay? Fair dinkum, now let's celebrate by putting some shrimp in the barbie..

[Fiba basketball]

He's around 70% from the line which isn't too bad for a guy his size.

He shot 63.8% in Adriatic and that is bad .

[Wonder Bread Kid]

Really I watched him play for most his college career/Australia and while yeah he could dunk I never really thought of him as a explosive athlete. Maybe hes closer to Jason Smith than my memory might be letting me down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi_M5yr90EA

[twintowers]

That mean's he's 6-10 in Euroleague, but 7-0 in the NBA. He magically grew 2 inches the moment he signed with the Spurs.

Anyway, he's better than Splitter is.


Do you catch any Spurs games recently?

[32MJ32]

This guy wont last long.

The only reason hes getting a "look in" is because the Australian Coach (Brett Brown/since stepped down too) is a Spurs Assistant.

Ive seen him play a few Olympic Exhibition games here in Australia, we have plenty of other Aussies that are a lot better than this guy.

I too am an Aussie and could not disagree more with "ClintDogg."

I identified him a few months ago, on another message board, as a guy who could play minutes in the NBA. He's big, strong, mean and has very good hands. He's a decent athlete, too - finishes a lot of lobs around the rim for our national team. He sets a mean pick and is an efficient roller to the rim. In a pick and roll heavy system, such as the Spurs, he has the chance to be useful. As long as he gets to the right spot in as few steps as possible, someone will find him for a dunk or layup (see Splitter, Tiago).

However, I agree that he's closer to 6'9" or 10" than 7'0". He's also foul prone and I wouldn't rate him as a particularly strong jump shooter, but that may have changed since he left for Europe.

[Big_Dogg]

I too am an Aussie and could not disagree more with "ClintDogg."

I identified him a few months ago, on another message board, as a guy who could play minutes in the NBA. He's big, strong, mean and has very good hands. He's a decent athlete, too - finishes a lot of lobs around the rim for our national team. He sets a mean pick and is an efficient roller to the rim. In a pick and roll heavy system, such as the Spurs, he has the chance to be useful. As long as he gets to the right spot in as few steps as possible, someone will find him for a dunk or layup (see Splitter, Tiago).

However, I agree that he's closer to 6'9" or 10" than 7'0". He's also foul prone and I wouldn't rate him as a particularly strong jump shooter, but that may have changed since he left for Europe.

ClintDogg has been on many hoops forums in Australia and his track record proves he knows Fu(kall, never take anything he says seriously as it has no substance behind it.

[32MJ32]

Oh shit. Doggfight!

[ClintDogg]

ClintDogg has been on many hoops forums in Australia and his track record proves he knows Fu(kall, never take anything he says seriously as it has no substance behind it.

Clint Dogg actually has WORKED for a NBL (Australia's NBA) team. Been there in the day to day stuff, dealt with the head office at the NBL. Unlike many others who are "fans" of the game and just want a refund on their tickets cause the customer is always right.

And Ive been following the NBL since 1986 and have the BIGGEST collection of NBL memorabilia in AUSTRALIA. At least I post my real name and dont hide.

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Baynes is ok I suppose. But my point is, if he can get a run, why not the others I mentioned such as Nathan Jawai, Joe Ingels, Julian Khazzouh, David Anderson, Matt Neilson etc etc... They are ALL HEAPs better players than this Baynes guy, I dont understand it
(actually I do really, Brett Brown is the Assistant coach at the Spurs, and he coached Baynes on last years Olympic team. Baynes would not of even got a run if Bogut or Jawai played instead of sitting out with injury).

[hon]

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Aron+Baynes+Australian+Boomers+Training+Session+Wt yZsiD2MA6l.jpg

WallaBeast

[Grinder]

Clint Dogg actually has WORKED for a NBL (Australia's NBA) team. Been there in the day to day stuff, dealt with the head office at the NBL. Unlike many others who are "fans" of the game and just want a refund on their tickets cause the customer is always right.

And Ive been following the NBL since 1986 and have the BIGGEST collection of NBL memorabilia in AUSTRALIA. At least I post my real name and dont hide.

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Baynes is ok I suppose. But my point is, if he can get a run, why not the others I mentioned such as Nathan Jawai, Joe Ingels, Julian Khazzouh, David Anderson, Matt Neilson etc etc... They are ALL HEAPs better players than this Baynes guy, I dont understand it
(actually I do really, Brett Brown is the Assistant coach at the Spurs, and he coached Baynes on last years Olympic team. Baynes would not of even got a run if Bogut or Jawai played instead of sitting out with injury).

Mate, please explain to me how Khazzouh is heaps better when he is currently a role player in the Lebanese league while Baynes was one of the the best players on a Euroleague team? Or Nielsen who averages 2 ppg on a Russian team?

[flipogb]

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Aron+Baynes+Australian+Boomers+Training+Session+Wt yZsiD2MA6l.jpg

WallaBeast

Aron Bane

http://i49.tinypic.com/b8u1vn.jpg

[andremiller07]

Mate, please explain to me how Khazzouh is heaps better when he is currently a role player in the Lebanese league while Baynes was one of the the best players on a Euroleague team? Or Nielsen who averages 2 ppg on a Russian team?

The only 4 Aussie bigmen that I can think of that are better than Baynes are
Bogut, Jawai, Anderson and Maric but yeah I agree hes better than Khazzouh and Neilsen now but I'd probs take prime Neilsen over him.

[Big_Dogg]

Clint Dogg actually has WORKED for a NBL (Australia's NBA) team. Been there in the day to day stuff, dealt with the head office at the NBL. Unlike many others who are "fans" of the game and just want a refund on their tickets cause the customer is always right.

And Ive been following the NBL since 1986 and have the BIGGEST collection of NBL memorabilia in AUSTRALIA. At least I post my real name and dont hide.

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Baynes is ok I suppose. But my point is, if he can get a run, why not the others I mentioned such as Nathan Jawai, Joe Ingels, Julian Khazzouh, David Anderson, Matt Neilson etc etc... They are ALL HEAPs better players than this Baynes guy, I dont understand it
(actually I do really, Brett Brown is the Assistant coach at the Spurs, and he coached Baynes on last years Olympic team. Baynes would not of even got a run if Bogut or Jawai played instead of sitting out with injury).

Bitch please, you've been owned on every NBL forum you've ever been on, you are the joke of the century on OzHoops, and whenever you argued with "The Customer", he was always right and you always got played, GTFO with that noise you muppet.

DJ'ing at games doesn't qualify you as working for a team and any moron can collect memorobilia if they have enough coin, I've worked for a team before too but you don't see me bragging about my credentials to prove it, I don't have to big note myself to anyone to act like I've got cred, it counts for nothing on this forum.

I was turning 10 in 1986, was and have been a Wildcats member before then and ever since, your numbers impress nobody, so don't come in here thinking you know all about hoops and aussie players more than the many aussie posters who have been on here long before you and don't post rubbish.

Just for the record, if you're that much of a fan and a know it all about hoops and aussie players yet you can't even spell Joe Ingles name correctly, when he is supposed to be one of our best young international players playing for a European powerhouse team then your credibility in lower than a mouses balls.

Maric is better than Jawai/Nielsen and Anderson has always been soft, never managed to cut it in the NBA twice and you want to say Khazzouh is better than Baynes, hell Ogilvy is better than Jawai and Nielsen and he is not even on Baynes or Maric's level yet.

[Aussie Dunker]

Things I have noticed from this thread:

Baynes may not be as skilled as a khazzouh or an Anderson, but his game is much more suited to the NBA.

Jawai, for his size, is athletic as hell, for whoever said he wasn't - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LX42AEpO-EY

Ingles should be playing at the end of a bench somewhere in the NBA. 6'8 ball handler with a great drive and great range. Very good on-ball defender too. Not sure why he hasn't made his way over yet...

Nielson - was good about 8 years ago. Right now? He is nothing more than a vetran presence...

Maric - is a very good big man, can see him playing at the end of a bench in the NBA at some stage

The 2 big men that have not been mentioned - Schenscher and Neville, are both terrible, I am glad they have been left out...

The next Australian in the NBA? Even though it won't happen, it should be Damien martin. The best PG on-ball defender I have seen in quite some time. Marto could be a real specialist in the NBA for some team...

[Walker]

Clint Dogg actually has WORKED for a NBL (Australia's NBA) team. Been there in the day to day stuff, dealt with the head office at the NBL. Unlike many others who are "fans" of the game and just want a refund on their tickets cause the customer is always right.

And Ive been following the NBL since 1986 and have the BIGGEST collection of NBL memorabilia in AUSTRALIA. At least I post my real name and dont hide.

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Baynes is ok I suppose. But my point is, if he can get a run, why not the others I mentioned such as Nathan Jawai, Joe Ingels, Julian Khazzouh, David Anderson, Matt Neilson etc etc... They are ALL HEAPs better players than this Baynes guy, I dont understand it
(actually I do really, Brett Brown is the Assistant coach at the Spurs, and he coached Baynes on last years Olympic team. Baynes would not of even got a run if Bogut or Jawai played instead of sitting out with injury).

Posting with your real name doesn't make you good or smart, it makes you a dumbass..

Allows people to find godawful rubbish like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aITNT0biUbA

Give up at life please...

[Aussie Dunker]

Posting with your real name doesn't make you good or smart, it makes you a dumbass..

Allows people to find godawful rubbish like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aITNT0biUbA

Give up at life please...

:applause: Great find mate

[andremiller07]

The next Australian in the NBA? Even though it won't happen, it should be Damien martin. The best PG on-ball defender I have seen in quite some time. Marto could be a real specialist in the NBA for some team...


Damien Martin is kinda like Australias version of Delonte West without the mental problems and will die trying to stop someone. The thing working against Martin is his age and I don't know if hes skilled enough to make much of an impact. The one guy before his knee injuries I thought would do ok in the NBA was Dave Barlow since he was a big SF, decent athlete and could really shoot but the knee injuries really took there toll.

[Aussie Dunker]

Damien Martin is kinda like Australias version of Delonte West without the mental problems and will die trying to stop someone. The thing working against Martin is his age and I don't know if hes skilled enough to make much of an impact. The one guy before his knee injuries I thought would do ok in the NBA was Dave Barlow since he was a big SF, decent athlete and could really shoot but the knee injuries really took there toll.

Yeah Barlow was alright, but he had NOTHING on Redhage about 5 years ago :rockon:

And if we want to go back about 20 years ago, how about Ricky Grace? How did he not make it over to the NBA?!@#$?

[Burgz V2]

7 footers are a rarity in the NBA. If he can last this season and into the next, he just earned a 8-10 NBA career :lol

plus, if the spurs sign him you know he has to be good

waiting on someone to sign Joe Ingels (sp?) I remember him from the Olympics, dude can play

[Euroleague]

Do you catch any Spurs games recently?

Splitter is extremely overrated.

[twintowers]

Splitter is extremely overrated.


So you did not.

[Euroleague]

I too am an Aussie and could not disagree more with "ClintDogg."

I identified him a few months ago, on another message board, as a guy who could play minutes in the NBA. He's big, strong, mean and has very good hands. He's a decent athlete, too - finishes a lot of lobs around the rim for our national team. He sets a mean pick and is an efficient roller to the rim. In a pick and roll heavy system, such as the Spurs, he has the chance to be useful. As long as he gets to the right spot in as few steps as possible, someone will find him for a dunk or layup (see Splitter, Tiago).

However, I agree that he's closer to 6'9" or 10" than 7'0". He's also foul prone and I wouldn't rate him as a particularly strong jump shooter, but that may have changed since he left for Europe.

The NBA adds a fake 2 inches of height to many of it's players. This is nothing new. Half of all the guys that are playing in Europe and get drafted, suddenly grow 2 inches on draft day.

It's all part of the fake marketing bullshit lie gimmick of "the NBA has bigger players than any other league". That's actually totally false and untrue. Draftexpress.com is all part of the NBA marketing gimmick.

[Euroleague]

So you did not.

There are much better big men in Europe than current Splitter.

[Euroleague]

Clint Dogg actually has WORKED for a NBL (Australia's NBA) team. Been there in the day to day stuff, dealt with the head office at the NBL. Unlike many others who are "fans" of the game and just want a refund on their tickets cause the customer is always right.

And Ive been following the NBL since 1986 and have the BIGGEST collection of NBL memorabilia in AUSTRALIA. At least I post my real name and dont hide.

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Baynes is ok I suppose. But my point is, if he can get a run, why not the others I mentioned such as Nathan Jawai, Joe Ingels, Julian Khazzouh, David Anderson, Matt Neilson etc etc... They are ALL HEAPs better players than this Baynes guy, I dont understand it
(actually I do really, Brett Brown is the Assistant coach at the Spurs, and he coached Baynes on last years Olympic team. Baynes would not of even got a run if Bogut or Jawai played instead of sitting out with injury).

Andersen (2nd best Aussie player ever for anyone with real b-ball knowledge) is miles better than Baynes, but he's also old and past his prime, and he would demand a huge salary.

Baynes is young and very cheap in NBA money terms. So that explains that.

Jawai is indeed better when he's on the court, but he's massively overweight and can only play very limited minutes. He also struggles a lot in certain defensive match ups.

It's true that for 10-15 minutes, Jawai is indeed better, but that's about all Jawai can play. And Baynes is more mobile defensively in pick and roll. So that probably explains it.

As for Ingles, he's a very talented player, but he's a pure 100% point forward. Unfortunately for him, since he's not American, that means he's not getting the interest from NBA teams that he would if he was.

If he was American, NBA teams would be "intrigued". Since he's Australian, NBA teams are more like, "we are not going to put the ball in an Aussie's hands".

Ingles is NOT good off the ball. He has to have the ball in his hands. If he is playing in a team where someone else has the ball, because they are better than him (Barca - Navarro, Huertas), then he can't do a whole lot.

I would compare Ingles to something like a more athletic Gordon Hayward, so certainly he's a very capable player. But you have to understand how incredibly racist the NBA is towards white and foreign players.

But besides that, Ingles' biggest problem is that he's not really good enough for a high level team to give him the ball, and he needs the ball in his hands. He could well in a crap NBA team, but as you see, in a good Euroleague team like Barca, he struggles.

So on a team like the Spurs, he would not be that useful, especially since he's not that good of a 3 point shooter.

Matt Nielsen - he used to be a very good role player for a team. But he's totally washed up. He should have retired a few years ago. I remember 2 years ago, he was by far and away the worst player on Olympiacos.

He's an ex player that is just rounding out his career as Khimki's 12th man. It happens. Guys get old. He would have been a nice role player for a team like the Spurs 5 years ago, but not now.

I don't think I've ever seen Julian Khazzou play, so I don't know about him. But if he's really that good, then he needs to play in a good European league, and not the Mideast or Australia.

[Euroleague]

The only 4 Aussie bigmen that I can think of that are better than Baynes are
Bogut, Jawai, Anderson and Maric but yeah I agree hes better than Khazzouh and Neilsen now but I'd probs take prime Neilsen over him.

I'm not sure about Maric. Maric is incredible on offense in pick and roll, and he's a good rebounder, but other than that, he does literally nothing on the basketball court.

And his defense is absolutely horrific. The guy can put up offense in bunches with a good pick and roll point guard, but he is an enormous liability on defense. He has a good post game, but he's also extremely prone to offensive fouls.

All in all, he was never more than the 3rd best center on Panathinaikos, the whole time he was there. Baynes did get voted the 4th best center in the Greek League last year.

So I'm not sure Maric is really better. There is no doubt to me at all that Maric is a way better scorer, and more skilled in general. But I'm not sure that he's a better all around center than Baynes. For Maric to be effective, you need to pair him with a really good pick and roll guard. Baynes can be effective just by being physical, banging, and throwing his body around the rim.

With that being said............the Euroleague and NBL are way more physical than the pussified NBA is. So Baynes will probably be a huge foul machine in the NBA, until he "adjusts" and starts playing American style ***** ball.

If he plays even half as physical as he does in the Euroleague in the NBA, he will get 3 fouls in 3 defensive possessions. They don't allow physical play in the NBA, which takes away the main strength of Baynes. So Maric does fit better to NBA style ***** ball.

But Baynes is athletic and he can run the floor, so if he plays ***** style ball, then he will fit in to the flying circus, no defense, dunks show of the NBA.

[Nash]

The NBA adds a fake 2 inches of height to many of it's players. This is nothing new. Half of all the guys that are playing in Europe and get drafted, suddenly grow 2 inches on draft day.

It's all part of the fake marketing bullshit lie gimmick of "the NBA has bigger players than any other league". That's actually totally false and untrue. Draftexpress.com is all part of the NBA marketing gimmick.
You honestly think the NBA worries about any other league? You really think they are afraid of the Euroleague taking over the ratings? Please..

[Euroleague]

Bitch please, you've been owned on every NBL forum you've ever been on, you are the joke of the century on OzHoops, and whenever you argued with "The Customer", he was always right and you always got played, GTFO with that noise you muppet.

DJ'ing at games doesn't qualify you as working for a team and any moron can collect memorobilia if they have enough coin, I've worked for a team before too but you don't see me bragging about my credentials to prove it, I don't have to big note myself to anyone to act like I've got cred, it counts for nothing on this forum.

I was turning 10 in 1986, was and have been a Wildcats member before then and ever since, your numbers impress nobody, so don't come in here thinking you know all about hoops and aussie players more than the many aussie posters who have been on here long before you and don't post rubbish.

Just for the record, if you're that much of a fan and a know it all about hoops and aussie players yet you can't even spell Joe Ingles name correctly, when he is supposed to be one of our best young international players playing for a European powerhouse team then your credibility in lower than a mouses balls.

Maric is better than Jawai/Nielsen and Anderson has always been soft, never managed to cut it in the NBA twice and you want to say Khazzouh is better than Baynes, hell Ogilvy is better than Jawai and Nielsen and he is not even on Baynes or Maric's level yet.

Now you just proved you are an idiot. Andersen was far, far, far better than the vast majority of NBA big men. He just didn't get any chances in the NBA, as typically happens to foreign players.

Prime David Andersen would have beasted the living hell out of the NBA, if he would have been given the chance to do so. Yes, he is soft, even very soft in some ways. But he got infinitely softer after the NBA tried to make him a full time 3 point shooter (that was Rick Adelman's fault - same guy that tried to destroy Drazen).

Before he went to the NBA, Andersen loved the low post. The NBA made him spend 2 years as a 3 point shooting 7 footer, and effectively ruined his career. Just because he's soft on defense and rebounding, does not excuse how the NBA used him on offense.

That guy was incredible in the low post, and they made him a full time spot up 3 point shooter.

You sound just like an NBA only fan, judging everything by the NBA. News flash, the current NBA sucks donkey dick. Half the centers in the NBA would not even pass a tryout for a good Euroleague team.

[Euroleague]

You honestly think the NBA worries about any other league? You really think they are afraid of the Euroleague taking over the ratings? Please..

Yes. They are actually scared shit of it. Just like Obradovic said, that's why Stern is so desperate to get into Europe. Because he knows what an enormous threat the Euroleague is to the NBA.

[RRR3]

I guess he got tired of dominating Euroleague and decided to challenge himself.

Euroleague explain how this dude Baynes dominated "The Best League in the World"?

Obviously, since the NBA sucks (according to you) he will average 20/10 no problem right?

[Euroleague]

I guess he got tired of dominating Euroleague and decided to challenge himself.

Euroleague explain how this dude Baynes dominated "The Best League in the World"?

Obviously, since the NBA sucks (according to you) he will average 20/10 no problem right?

Aron Baynes did not dominate the Euroleague you ****ing mental midget. He was named the 4th best center of the Greek League just last year for example.

Explain why your IQ is so low?

[Bandito]

They will win the championship now.

[kNicKz]

Splitter is extremely overrated.

By who? :roll: If anything he's slept on this year by a lot of people

[Bandito]

Yes. They are actually scared shit of it. Just like Obradovic said, that's why Stern is so desperate to get into Europe. Because he knows what an enormous threat the Euroleague is to the NBA.
The reason he wants the NBA to go to Europe is because he wants the NBA to be a world wide league, as is it he want to do a "World Basketball Association". He has said that multiple times. He does not care about a scrub league like the "Euroleague". I'll be surprised if he even heard of it:roll:

[Euroleague]

By who? :roll: If anything he's slept on this year by a lot of people

Trust me. He's very overrated.

[TMT]

Splitter is extremely overrated.

:roll: Mind telling me by who? The guy doesn't get any recognition for anything.

[Euroleague]

:roll: Mind telling me by who? The guy doesn't get any recognition for anything.

Give me a break.

He is routinely called,

"he was the best big man in Europe" - totally false and untrue.

"he was the MVP of Euroleague" - totally false and untrue.

"he is the best Brazilian player" - totally false and untrue.

"he led the Brazilian national team" - totally false and untrue.

"he was the best big man in the world not in the NBA" - totally false and untrue.

"he was the best player not in the NBA" - totally false and untrue.

"he was the best player in the Euroleague" - totally false and untrue.

"he was the best player in the Spanish League" - totally false and untrue.

"he dominated Euroleague". - totally false and untrue

"he was the best center in international ball" - totally false and untrue.

"he dominated the Spanish League" - totally false and untrue.

"he dominated international basketball" - totally false and untrue.

I could go on and on and with more.

How about all the "he was a good low post scorer in Europe", and all the other complete fantasies and lies people say about him?

Or what about the fact that almost the entire Spurs fan base predicted he would be at least a 15/10 player, and about half said he would be a 20/10 player in his ROOKIE season? And that people saying he would average 12/10 or 10/5 as a rookie, were called "haters"?

Or what about all the morons that say the ONLY reason he does not play more is because "Popovich hates him"?

Splitter is by far and away one of the most overrated basketball players of all time.

[Nash]

Yes. They are actually scared shit of it. Just like Obradovic said, that's why Stern is so desperate to get into Europe. Because he knows what an enormous threat the Euroleague is to the NBA.
Europe is a big market, that's why Stern is interested in it. Nobody outside of very few European countries care about the Euroleague.

And yeah, the world, Nike and Adidas can't get enough of superstars like Krstic, Spanoulis, Jordan Farmar, Teodosic and Bobby Brown.

[Burgz V2]

I an by far and away one of the most annoying posters of all time.

fixed.

[ClintDogg]

Mate, please explain to me how Khazzouh is heaps better when he is currently a role player in the Lebanese league while Baynes was one of the the best players on a Euroleague team? Or Nielsen who averages 2 ppg on a Russian team?


The only 4 Aussie bigmen that I can think of that are better than Baynes are
Bogut, Jawai, Anderson and Maric but yeah I agree hes better than Khazzouh and Neilsen now but I'd probs take prime Neilsen over him.

Julian Khazzouh a little before around this time last year was trialing with the Golden State Warriors. He actually was going really good in our NBL here in Australia. Great touch around the basket, scoring etc etc.


Bitch please, you've been owned on every NBL forum you've ever been on, you are the joke of the century on OzHoops, and whenever you argued with "The Customer", he was always right and you always got played, GTFO with that noise you muppet.

DJ'ing at games doesn't qualify you as working for a team and any moron can collect memorobilia if they have enough coin, I've worked for a team before too but you don't see me bragging about my credentials to prove it, I don't have to big note myself to anyone to act like I've got cred, it counts for nothing on this forum.

I was turning 10 in 1986, was and have been a Wildcats member before then and ever since, your numbers impress nobody, so don't come in here thinking you know all about hoops and aussie players more than the many aussie posters who have been on here long before you and don't post rubbish.

Just for the record, if you're that much of a fan and a know it all about hoops and aussie players yet you can't even spell Joe Ingles name correctly, when he is supposed to be one of our best young international players playing for a European powerhouse team then your credibility in lower than a mouses balls.

Maric is better than Jawai/Nielsen and Anderson has always been soft, never managed to cut it in the NBA twice and you want to say Khazzouh is better than Baynes, hell Ogilvy is better than Jawai and Nielsen and he is not even on Baynes or Maric's level yet.

Thanks for your huge post about me.


I don't think I've ever seen Julian Khazzouh play, so I don't know about him. But if he's really that good, then he needs to play in a good European league, and not the Mideast or Australia.

Try to see some footage of him playing for the Sydney kings, in the 2011/12 season and the one before that too i think.

[gabepizza]

Now you just proved you are an idiot. Andersen was far, far, far better than the vast majority of NBA big men. He just didn't get any chances in the NBA, as typically happens to foreign players.

Prime David Andersen would have beasted the living hell out of the NBA, if he would have been given the chance to do so. Yes, he is soft, even very soft in some ways. But he got infinitely softer after the NBA tried to make him a full time 3 point shooter (that was Rick Adelman's fault - same guy that tried to destroy Drazen).

Before he went to the NBA, Andersen loved the low post. The NBA made him spend 2 years as a 3 point shooting 7 footer, and effectively ruined his career. Just because he's soft on defense and rebounding, does not excuse how the NBA used him on offense.

That guy was incredible in the low post, and they made him a full time spot up 3 point shooter.

You sound just like an NBA only fan, judging everything by the NBA. News flash, the current NBA sucks donkey dick. Half the centers in the NBA would not even pass a tryout for a good Euroleague team.

This is the last defense against reality. Sort of like when the US dominates international play the last defense used by this delusional Eurotroll is the games were fixed. When Euroleague stars come to the NBA and fail the excuse is American coaches are racist against white non-American players. That explains the success of Nowitzki, the Gasol brothers, Nash, Kirilenko, etc...NBA coaches are going to play the players they feel will give them the best chance of winning and keeping their jobs not because of some delusional conspiracy that they are racist against whites (which considering that over half the NBA coaches are white would make them racist against their own race!)

Every single player who fails in the NBA can make the excuse they weren't given the chance (except maybe lottery picks who are guaranteed minutes). And yes out of the hundreds of players who don't last in the league some of them might have a legitimate gripe. But all in all, no matter if you're black, white, yellow or purple, American, French, Australian, Chinese, Algerian, etc...if you couldn't make it in the NBA you couldn't make it in the NBA.

David Anderson played 2 full seasons in the NBA and saw playing time in a total of 103 games. He was given a chance.

And that insane comment about half the centers in the NBA not making the tryout for a good Euroleague team lol. That is why Nenad Krsitc, who left the NBA as a total scrub, averaging 1.7 ppg and rpg, in the playoffs his last year, went over to Euroleague and was selected all-Euroleague 1st team, in other words the top center in Euroleague. So half the center in the NBA would not make a good Euroleague team but one of the worst NBA centers went over to Euroleague and not only started on one of the best Euroleague teams but was the best center in the league. You are a total joke and liar.

[gabepizza]

Aron Baynes did not dominate the Euroleague you ****ing mental midget. He was named the 4th best center of the Greek League just last year for example.

Explain why your IQ is so low?

Whilel I agree the world dominate is an exaggeration he did lead Euroleague in rebounds this season, ahead of Bourousis and every other center in Euroleague.

[gabepizza]

Give me a break.

He is routinely called,

"he was the best big man in Europe" - totally false and untrue.

"he was the MVP of Euroleague" - totally false and untrue.

"he is the best Brazilian player" - totally false and untrue.

"he led the Brazilian national team" - totally false and untrue.

"he was the best big man in the world not in the NBA" - totally false and untrue.

"he was the best player not in the NBA" - totally false and untrue.

"he was the best player in the Euroleague" - totally false and untrue.

"he was the best player in the Spanish League" - totally false and untrue.

"he dominated Euroleague". - totally false and untrue

"he was the best center in international ball" - totally false and untrue.

"he dominated the Spanish League" - totally false and untrue.

"he dominated international basketball" - totally false and untrue.

I could go on and on and with more.

How about all the "he was a good low post scorer in Europe", and all the other complete fantasies and lies people say about him?

Or what about the fact that almost the entire Spurs fan base predicted he would be at least a 15/10 player, and about half said he would be a 20/10 player in his ROOKIE season? And that people saying he would average 12/10 or 10/5 as a rookie, were called "haters"?

Or what about all the morons that say the ONLY reason he does not play more is because "Popovich hates him"?

Splitter is by far and away one of the most overrated basketball players of all time.

In 2008 he was selected to all-Euroleague first team so if he was not the best big man in Europe that he he was one of the best two big men.

IN 2010 (his last year in Europe) he was the MVP and finals MVP of the Spanish league so I would call that dominated the Spanish league.

Tiago Splitter:
All Euroleague 1st team-2008
All Euroleague 2nd team- 2009, 2010
Spanish League champions - 2008, 2010
All-Spanish league team - 2010
Spanish League Finals MVP - 2010
Spanish League MVP - 2010

Yet he was overrated in Europe. I think if "Euroleague" actually tells the truth once is a post he will self-destruct or something.

[Euroleague]

gabepizza trolls every single time he posts.

Splitter is EXTREMELY overrated.

[gabepizza]

gabepizza trolls every single time he posts.

Splitter is EXTREMELY overrated.

Overrated by whom? The year before he came over to the NBA he was the Spanish League's MVP and Finals MVP so basically the best player in what is arguable Europe's top domestic league. Not to mention an all-Euroleague 1st team selection and a two time all-Euroleague 2nd team selection.

So overrated by who? The ACB and Euroleague officials who select players for those awards? lol

[gabepizza]

gabepizza trolls every single time he posts.

Splitter is EXTREMELY overrated.

Does being called a troll by someone who's tag line is "crazed troll" make me a troll slayer?

[Euroleague]

Overrated by whom? The year before he came over to the NBA he was the Spanish League's MVP and Finals MVP so basically the best player in what is arguable Europe's top domestic league. Not to mention an all-Euroleague 1st team selection and a two time all-Euroleague 2nd team selection.

So overrated by who? The ACB and Euroleague officials who select players for those awards? lol

He was never the best player in Spanish League you ****ing POS.

[gabepizza]

He was never the best player in Spanish League you ****ing POS.


I would say that being the league MVP and the Finals MVP is being the best players in the league.

That's like claiming Lebron James was never the best player in the NBA you *****ing POS.

[Nash]

He was never the best player in Spanish League you ****ing POS.
:facepalm


All-Euroleague First Team (2008)
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[gabepizza]

Europe is a big market, that's why Stern is interested in it. Nobody outside of very few European countries care about the Euroleague.

And yeah, the world, Nike and Adidas can't get enough of superstars like Krstic, Spanoulis, Jordan Farmar, Teodosic and Bobby Brown.

:oldlol:

Yes Stern has a plan to take Euroleague's best and make them back-ups in the NBA (and he makes sure to tell NBA coaches to keep them on the bench). He also has FIBA fix the international tournaments to help the US win, and lastly he also killed the Kennedys!

[RRR3]

Aron Baynes did not dominate the Euroleague you ****ing mental midget. He was named the 4th best center of the Greek League just last year for example.

Explain why your IQ is so low?
One of the highest player index rankings, averaged 14/10 which was amongst the league leaders IIRC. Sounds like dominating to me

[TMT]

Euroleague needs to go find a nice European message board to unload all his crap on. We don't want it over here, bro. :sleeping

[solar.hands]

Euroleague needs to go find a nice European message board to unload all his crap on. We don't want it over here, bro. :sleeping
everyone in interbasket hates this guy, and also the biggest tiago hater right over there at spurstalk

[Aussie Dunker]

I have a lot of love for David Anderson - but 2nd best Australian player ever?..

I would like to see your top 5 list mate.. @Euroleague