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kuniva_dAMiGhTy
01-09-2013, 05:34 PM
http://s2.postimage.org/xquyrkbbd/Kobe_Bryant.jpg

Another milestone for the GOAT. :eek: :applause:

Legends66NBA7
01-09-2013, 05:37 PM
Is this regular season and playoffs combined ?

Either way, it was inevitable if he kept playing longer too.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
01-09-2013, 05:39 PM
Is this regular season and playoffs combined ?

Either way, it was inevitable if he kept playing longer too.

Career missed FG's. He surpassed Hondo last night.

CTulc
01-09-2013, 05:40 PM
There's a choice we're making
We're saving our own lives
Its true we'll make a better day
Just you and me.

red1
01-09-2013, 05:42 PM
9erempire: how great is our gawd?

jstern
01-09-2013, 05:43 PM
When did he do this? I assume there would have been a countdown, at least on ish.

alleykat
01-09-2013, 05:43 PM
well there ya go......

breaking records left and right

Legends66NBA7
01-09-2013, 05:44 PM
Career missed FG's. He surpassed Hondo last night.

Hmmm... I thought he was close. Oh well, that is downside of longevity, but given Kobe is a volume scorer it was going to happen.

Karl Malone for example is second all-time in scoring but also first in turnovers all-time. I am pretty sure it well get looked over, but it is there now.

alleykat
01-09-2013, 05:45 PM
Hmmm... I thought he was close. Oh well, that is downside of longevity, but given Kobe is a volume scorer it was going to happen.

Karl Malone for example is second all-time in scoring but also first in turnovers all-time. I am pretty sure it well get looked over, but it is there now.

thats why the mailman didn't win....it will get looked over cuz he is looked over....

CavaliersFTW
01-09-2013, 05:46 PM
By the time Kobe retires his "missed shots" record will be more untouchable than Wilt's 50ppg/100 point records

:bowdown:

DuMa
01-09-2013, 05:46 PM
http://files-cdn.formspring.me/photos/20120701/n4ff111c3464c4.gif

tmacattack33
01-09-2013, 05:50 PM
:applause:

upside24
01-09-2013, 05:51 PM
Not surprising.

He is a shooting guard playing in his 17th season who is always near the top in field goal attempts.

funnystuff
01-09-2013, 05:53 PM
:applause: :applause:

Legends66NBA7
01-09-2013, 05:55 PM
thats why the mailman didn't win....it will get looked over cuz he is looked over....

Well, that and Malone's play dropping in the playoffs altogether.

DuMa
01-09-2013, 05:57 PM
if you think he wont have a chance to make history again in the playoffs seeing as his lakers are out of the race now... think again

Also, keep in mind that Kobe already holds the “record” for most missed FGA in NBA playoff history, having passed Jordan during the 2011 postseason. The list here contains all the same names as above except Elvin Hayes.

FROM THE ELIAS SPORTS BUREAU (FG Pct, eFG pct from Basketball Reference):
Most FG Missed
NBA Postseason History
FG Pct eFG Pct
Kobe Bryant 2,485 44.8 48.0
Michael Jordan 2,309 48.7 50.3
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 2,066 53.3 53.3
Karl Malone 2,025 46.3 46.3
John Havlicek 1,878 43.6 43.6

NumberSix
01-09-2013, 05:57 PM
Career missed FG's. He surpassed Hondo last night.
And Hondo gots dem 8 RINGS!!!

Real Men Wear Green
01-09-2013, 06:14 PM
One of the coolest things about Bryant doubles as his biggest problem: He does what he wants to do and doesn't let the negative opinions of others effect that. I'm incapable of being a fan of a Laker player but I respect a man that has achieved that level of freedom. And unless you're talking about MJ, Magic or one of the old school Celtics I bet any player would happily accept this record if it came along with 5 rings. I'm not saying he's the prime reason they won all those Championships but they don't get any without it. Bottom line, he's got away with all of that chucking because he's worth it.

Mr. Jabbar
01-09-2013, 06:17 PM
lmao @ the hater gathering inside this thread :roll: , we should lock it w/them inside and set it on fire!

ispin69
01-09-2013, 06:18 PM
GOATBrickBe

Killbot
01-09-2013, 06:21 PM
Numberoneinfieldgoalattemptsbe

EoJ
01-09-2013, 06:26 PM
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

Kiddlovesnets
01-09-2013, 06:27 PM
The legendary chucker.
:bowdown:

kNIOKAS
01-09-2013, 06:28 PM
Prolly trying to teach teammates something. Always a blessing in disguise.

red1
01-09-2013, 06:30 PM
lmao @ the hater gathering inside this thread :roll: , we should lock it w/them inside and set it on fire!
:oldlol: He mad! Posters like you and 9erempire deserve every bit of clowning you get.


Numberoneinfieldgoalattemptsbe
aka chuckbe


You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
You also miss 100% of the shots you miss.

Heavincent
01-09-2013, 06:33 PM
Only a true legend could hold a record such as this. Kind of like Brett Favre's interception record.

red1
01-09-2013, 06:36 PM
Only a true legend could hold a record such as this. Kind of like Brett Favre's interception record.
Im sorry bro this thread is now a 9erempire/kobe143/mr jabbar roast thread. If you are a half decent poster who likes kobe please leave and spare yourself. In the meantime



Chuckbe Cryant :roll:

STATUTORY
01-09-2013, 06:45 PM
shit stat.

who tracks missed shots? that's like tracking all the girls you saw but didn't ask out. lame

red1
01-09-2013, 06:48 PM
shit stat.

who tracks missed shots? that's like tracking all the girls you saw but didn't ask out. lame
why you mad for? :roll:

The Real JW
01-09-2013, 06:49 PM
One of the coolest things about Bryant doubles as his biggest problem: He does what he wants to do and doesn't let the negative opinions of others effect that. I'm incapable of being a fan of a Laker player but I respect a man that has achieved that level of freedom. And unless you're talking about MJ, Magic or one of the old school Celtics I bet any player would happily accept this record if it came along with 5 rings. I'm not saying he's the prime reason they won all those Championships but they don't get any without it. Bottom line, he's got away with all of that chucking because he's worth it.

This.

CavaliersFTW
01-09-2013, 06:54 PM
shit stat.

who tracks missed shots? that's like tracking all the girls you saw but didn't ask out. lame
actually, it's more like tracking all the girls that you asked out that told you "no" right to your face. It's not a stat of not having the cajones to ask, it's stat of making the attempt but straight up failing.

mehyaM24
01-09-2013, 06:54 PM
shit stat.

who tracks missed shots? that's like tracking all the girls you saw but didn't ask out. lame

or in your case, men. Lmao

R1Turtle
01-09-2013, 06:55 PM
shit stat.

who tracks missed shots? that's like tracking all the girls you saw but didn't ask out. lame

Its more like tracking all the girls that rejected you when you asked them out.

mehyaM24
01-09-2013, 06:58 PM
actually, it's more like tracking all the girls that you asked out that told you "no" right to your face. It's not a stat of not having the cajones to ask, it's stat of making the attempt but straight up failing.

dafucq?

are you saying it's good to keep track of...... or that kobe is a failure for bricking that amount of shots??? :lol

alleykat
01-09-2013, 06:59 PM
lmao @ the hater gathering inside this thread :roll: , we should lock it w/them inside and set it on fire!

Actually u shud read OP, cuz this is actually an appreciation thread...as u can see plenty of people admit he just broke a new record

CavaliersFTW
01-09-2013, 07:01 PM
dafucq?

are you saying it's good to keep track of...... or that kobe is a failure for bricking that amount of shots??? :lol
Kobe has failed to make more baskets than any NBA player in history - it's a blemish to his offensive abilities but it's also a testimate to his longevity - it's kind of a moot record IMO, nothing to be proud of at all, but then again he shouldn't be too ashamed either cause you have to have pretty elite longevity to get such a record

Calabis
01-09-2013, 07:01 PM
http://s2.postimage.org/xquyrkbbd/Kobe_Bryant.jpg

Another milestone for the GOAT. :eek: :applause:

KobeSystem breeds efficiency :bowdown:

Deuce Bigalow
01-09-2013, 07:03 PM
Was this on sportscenter or something?

Euroleague
01-09-2013, 07:05 PM
Who missed the most free throws? Shaq? Wilt?

AlphaWolf24
01-09-2013, 07:06 PM
http://s2.postimage.org/xquyrkbbd/Kobe_Bryant.jpg

Another milestone for the GOAT. :eek: :applause:


- Jordan stans should stay far away from this thread.....unless you want to get powned..:D :pimp:

CavaliersFTW
01-09-2013, 07:06 PM
Who missed the most free throws? Shaq? Wilt?
Who missed the most opportunities to play/make impact in the NBA? Spanoullis?

Rysio
01-09-2013, 07:06 PM
on my count at least half of those were in and outs. what is he supposed to do about that? basketball gods just hate him yet he's still top 5 all time. :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

TheMarkMadsen
01-09-2013, 07:08 PM
Over 15,000 Kobe assist :applause:

That's good for #1 all time on that list. . :bowdown:

Jordan Stan's stay mad

CavaliersFTW
01-09-2013, 07:09 PM
on my count at least half of those were in and outs. what is he supposed to do about that? basketball gods just hate him yet he's still top 5 all time. :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
terribleshootingtouchbe

cantputproperspinontheballbe

:bowdown:

ispin69
01-09-2013, 07:09 PM
Love the kobestans trying to turn this into a positive. It would make sense IF Kobe was the all time scoring leader with the most points but no he isn't.

Kareem Abdul-jabbar 38,387 points 20 years
Karl Malone 36,928 points 19 years
Michael Jordan 32,292 points 15 years
Wilt Chamberlain 31,419 points 14 years
*Kobe Bryant 30,016 points 17 years
Shaquille O’Neal 28,596 points 19 years

Kobe has probably two years left in him? Even Jordan only played for 15 years while Kobe will be close to 20 years. It's not just about attempts. It's about HIGH PERCENTAGE SHOTS. That is why these scoring leaders scored more points while missing less.

MAC system
01-09-2013, 07:15 PM
- Jordan stans should stay far away from this thread.....unless you want to get powned..:D :pimp:
Shut up baby d1ck

TheMarkMadsen
01-09-2013, 07:20 PM
Love the kobestans trying to turn this into a positive. It would make sense IF Kobe was the all time scoring leader with the most points but no he isn't.

Kareem Abdul-jabbar 38,387 points 20 years
Karl Malone 36,928 points 19 years
Michael Jordan 32,292 points 15 years
Wilt Chamberlain 31,419 points 14 years
*Kobe Bryant 30,016 points 17 years
Shaquille O’Neal 28,596 points 19 years

Kobe has probably two years left in him? Even Jordan only played for 15 years while Kobe will be close to 20 years. It's not just about attempts. It's about HIGH PERCENTAGE SHOTS. That is why these scoring leaders scored more points while missing less.

Kobe's 17th season isn't over with, so that number is a little misleading, it will be over 31,000 by the end of the year.

And 3/4 of the guys you listed were big men, of course their going to take better shots and shoot a higher percantage than a guard

If you knew anything about basketball you'd have realized that :facepalm

dazzer87
01-09-2013, 07:23 PM
Kobrick............:applause: :bowdown:

Deuce Bigalow
01-09-2013, 07:23 PM
Kobe's 17th season isn't over with, so that number is a little misleading, it will be over 31,000 by the end of the year.
It will be closer to 32,000. He already has 30,510 with 48 games left. He will pass Wilt soon for 4th all-time.
Wilt- 31419
Kobe- 30510
909 points away.
With a 30 ppg average = 31 games

AlphaWolf24
01-09-2013, 07:28 PM
Love the kobestans trying to turn this into a positive. It would make sense IF Kobe was the all time scoring leader with the most points but no he isn't.

Kareem Abdul-jabbar 38,387 points 20 years
Karl Malone 36,928 points 19 years
Michael Jordan 32,292 points 15 years
Wilt Chamberlain 31,419 points 14 years
*Kobe Bryant 30,016 points 17 years
Shaquille O’Neal 28,596 points 19 years

Kobe might pass Wilt but I doubt he will pass Jordan. Kobe has probably two years left in him? Even Jordan only played for 15 years while Kobe will be close to 20 years. It's not just about attempts. It's about HIGH PERCENTAGE SHOTS. That is why these scoring leaders scored more points while missing less.


- actually Kobe will break the alltime scoring record in 3 more seasons...( passing MJ next season)..18 seasons vs 15 seasons???....in context MJ did it in 3 less seasons.....but Kobe also played less minutes his first 2 years

- and "HIGH PERCENTAGE" is a moot point

This is the list of guards/small forwards who shot over 50% and had 20+ PPG during MJ's era(1985-1998).

Michael Jordan - 6 times
Chris Mullen - 6 times
Adrian Dantley - 4 times
Kiki Vandewedge - 4 times
Reggie Miller - 3 times
James Worthy - 3 times
Alex English - 3 times
Dale Ellis - 3 times
Magic Johnson - 2 times
Penny Hardaway - 2 times
Kevin Johnson - 2 times
Clyde Drexler - 2 times
Cedric Ceballos - 2 times
Mark Aguirre - 2 times
Gary Payton - once
Byron Scott - once
Rolando Blackman - once
Walter Davis - once
Jeff Hornacek - once
Otis Birdsong - once
Jeff Malone - once
George Gervin - once
Drazen Petrovic - once
Reggie Lewis - once
Derek Smith - once
Scottie Pippen - once



And here is the list of guards/small forwards who shot over 50% and had 20+ PPG during the post-Lockout era(2000-2010).

Lebron James - once
Chris Paul - once
Tony Parker - once
Monta Ellis - once
Shawn Marion - once


So in MJ's era it was done 56 times by 26 different players.

from 2000- 2010 it has been done only 5 times by 5 different players....a totally different era ..especially for perimeter players.

upside24
01-09-2013, 07:31 PM
[QUOTE=ispin69]Love the kobestans trying to turn this into a positive. It would make sense IF Kobe was the all time scoring leader with the most points but no he isn't.

Kareem Abdul-jabbar 38,387 points 20 years
Karl Malone 36,928 points 19 years
Michael Jordan 32,292 points 15 years
Wilt Chamberlain 31,419 points 14 years
*Kobe Bryant 30,016 points 17 years
Shaquille O

ispin69
01-09-2013, 07:38 PM
Kobe's 17th season isn't over with, so that number is a little misleading, it will be over 31,000 by the end of the year.

And 3/4 of the guys you listed were big men, of course their going to take better shots and shoot a higher percantage than a guard

If you knew anything about basketball you'd have realized that :facepalm


Yes tell me why Jordan a GUARD doesn't have the highest missed shots right now. Currently he has scored more than Kobe yet Kobe has the most missed shots. You guys love to compare the two only when it's convenient. :facepalm

That's right you can't deny Jordan took more high percentage shots.

TheMarkMadsen
01-09-2013, 07:44 PM
Yes tell me why Jordan a GUARD doesn't have the highest missed shots right now. Currently he has scored more than Kobe yet Kobe has the most missed shots. You guys love to compare the two only when it's convenient. :facepalm

That's right you can't deny Jordan took more high percentage shots.


You're only argument is that Kobe couldn't do it as efficiently as the GOAT..?

:biggums:

AlphaWolf24
01-09-2013, 07:46 PM
Yes tell me why Jordan a GUARD doesn't have the highest missed shots right now. Currently he has scored more than Kobe yet Kobe has the most missed shots. You guys love to compare the two only when it's convenient. :facepalm

That's right you can't deny Jordan took more high percentage shots.


- 1. I took Jordan only 1072 games to get to 12,354 misses...

- 2. Jordan 1778 3pt attempts........Kobe 4466 3 pt attempts


- 3. again MJ played in much different era.....where plenty of perimeter stars shot well over 50%

- 4. get back in my pocket son.

AlphaWolf24
01-09-2013, 07:51 PM
You're only argument is that Kobe couldn't do it as efficiently as the GOAT..?

:biggums:


hey didn't you know....Karl Malone and Kareem at 51% and 55% receptively.

Karl and Jabbar>>>>>>> Jordan.

Calabis
01-09-2013, 07:52 PM
- actually Kobe will break the alltime scoring record in 3 more seasons...( passing MJ next season)..18 seasons vs 15 seasons???....in context MJ did it in 3 less seasons.....but Kobe also played less minutes his first 2 years

- and "HIGH PERCENTAGE" is a moot point

This is the list of guards/small forwards who shot over 50% and had 20+ PPG during MJ's era(1985-1998).

Michael Jordan - 6 times
Chris Mullen - 6 times
Adrian Dantley - 4 times
Kiki Vandewedge - 4 times
Reggie Miller - 3 times
James Worthy - 3 times
Alex English - 3 times
Dale Ellis - 3 times
Magic Johnson - 2 times
Penny Hardaway - 2 times
Kevin Johnson - 2 times
Clyde Drexler - 2 times
Cedric Ceballos - 2 times
Mark Aguirre - 2 times
Gary Payton - once
Byron Scott - once
Rolando Blackman - once
Walter Davis - once
Jeff Hornacek - once
Otis Birdsong - once
Jeff Malone - once
George Gervin - once
Drazen Petrovic - once
Reggie Lewis - once
Derek Smith - once
Scottie Pippen - once



And here is the list of guards/small forwards who shot over 50% and had 20+ PPG during the post-Lockout era(2000-2010).

Lebron James - once
Chris Paul - once
Tony Parker - once
Monta Ellis - once
Shawn Marion - once


So in MJ's era it was done 56 times by 26 different players.

from 2000- 2010 it has been done only 5 times by 5 different players....a totally different era ..especially for perimeter players.

:facepalm

Jordan era didn't jack up threes nearly as much, which results in higher percentage shots being taken, also your boy Kobe played less minutes shit is another pathetic excuse you keep clinging too..not to mention better quality bigs demanding attention causing defenses to collapse which provided higher percentage shots for perimeter guys in the Jordan era.

Kobe 43,707 min played

Jordan 41,011 min played

Lmao at the 2010 cutoff u came up with to justify u'r garbage. James 4 seasons in a row with 50+%, also Kevin Durant basically has shot 50% the last two seasons, because he is taking high quality shots and not forcing shit up like Kobe has done throughout his career(but leave it to you, about this mythical great defense). Durant is maturing and becoming a more efficient offensive player, whereas ChuckBe has always worried about individual accolades. Chuckbe in his 17th season, still has the playing mindset like 3rd year MJ.

AlphaWolf24
01-09-2013, 07:53 PM
Shut up baby d1ck


if you want to debate this subject.......

>>>>>>>>>>>>>Off Topic - http://207.58.151.151/forum/showthread.php?t=282603&page=7

TheBigVeto
01-09-2013, 07:54 PM
King of Chucking!

Calabis
01-09-2013, 07:58 PM
You're only argument is that Kobe couldn't do it as efficiently as the GOAT..?

:biggums:

Sad part is he probably could have, had he played more within the realm of the offense and didn't force up so much crap. The biggest difference between the two is their brains

AlphaWolf24
01-09-2013, 08:00 PM
:facepalm

Jordan era didn't jack up threes nearly as much, which results in higher percentage shots being taken, also your boy Kobe played less minutes shit is another pathetic excuse you keep clinging too..not to mention better quality bigs demanding attention causing defenses to collapse which provided higher percentage shots for perimeter guys in the Jordan era.

Kobe 43,707 min played

Jordan 41,011 min played

Lmao at the 2010 cutoff u came up with to justify u'r garbage. James 4 seasons in a row with 50+%, also Kevin Durant basically has shot 50% the last two seasons, because he is taking high quality shots and not forcing shit up like Kobe has done throughout his career(but leave it to you, about this mythical great defense). Durant is maturing and becoming a more efficient offensive player, whereas ChuckBe has always worried about individual accolades. Chuckbe in his 17th season, still has the playing mindset like 3rd year MJ.


- the defense was also played much different...and yes perimeter players didn't take as many outside ( 15'+ beyond from the rim) shots...but IMo and everyone who actually watched the games...teh defense has changed alot since the 80's / mid 90's

- John Havlicek shot 43%. Never shot a 3 in his career... or at least not when it was in the NBA.

Hayes shot 45%. Made 5 3pointers in his career at a whopping 14%...you are lacking in the basic fundemental of recognizing game.....

- again , Lebron James is still only 1 player.....the 2010 cutoff was to show the era's.....even still Lebron is still only 1 player ......and Marion didn't do it...so it's still only a very few players vs nearly 30 in the Jordan era...

- get back in my pocket ****....

stay mad MJ stans...

AlphaWolf24
01-09-2013, 08:01 PM
Sad part is he probably could have, had he played more within the realm of the offense and didn't force up so much crap. The biggest difference between the two is their brains


- thier TS% difference is only 2%.....whoopptity doooo dahhhhh!!!

- if only Kobe shot 2% higher the Lakers could have won 10 championships by now....


- Jordan stans ruining basketball 1 post at a time.

Blue&Orange
01-09-2013, 08:06 PM
This is the list of guards/small forwards who shot over 50% and had 20+ PPG during MJ's era(1985-1998).

And here is the list of guards/small forwards who shot over 50% and had 20+ PPG during the post-Lockout era(2000-2010).


1985 season 3PA average - 3.3
2010 season 3PA average - 18.0


:lol

DonDadda59
01-09-2013, 08:09 PM
Truly, he is the King of Kings :bowdown:

Shaquille O'Neal
01-09-2013, 08:11 PM
Kobe has missed 15,296 shots. The most in NBA history.

:roll::roll::roll:

STATUTORY
01-09-2013, 08:12 PM
Kobe has missed 15,296 shots. The most in NBA history.

:roll::roll::roll:

shaq's missed more free throws than that :roll: :roll:

Calabis
01-09-2013, 08:13 PM
- the defense was also played much different...and yes perimeter players didn't take as many outside ( 15'+ beyond from the rim) shots...but IMo and everyone who actually watched the games...teh defense has changed alot since the 80's / mid 90's

- John Havlicek shot 43%. Never shot a 3 in his career... or at least not when it was in the NBA.

Hayes shot 45%. Made 5 3pointers in his career at a whopping 14%...you are lacking in the basic fundemental of recognizing game.....

- again , Lebron James is still only 1 player.....the 2010 cutoff was to show the era's.....even still Lebron is still only 1 player ......and Marion didn't do it...so it's still only a very few players vs nearly 30 in the Jordan era...

- get back in my pocket ****....

stay mad MJ stans...

Get in my pocket??? Really??

I would refer to my older posts, where I have killed u'r and Fatal's bullshit defense theories, but obviously facts don't sink in with u two

AlphaWolf24
01-09-2013, 08:14 PM
shaq's missed more free throws than that :roll: :roll:


close...

Most FTs Missed, Career
Wilt Chamberlain 5,805
Shaquille O'Neal 4,995
Karl Malone 3,401
Walt Bellamy 2,975
Elvin Hayes 2,643


Shaq missed FT's = 1/3 of Kobe missed shots:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

AlphaWolf24
01-09-2013, 08:15 PM
Get in my pocket??? Really??

I would refer to my older posts, where I have killed u'r and Fatal's bullshit defense theories, but obviously facts don't sink in with u two


- Stay Mad B!tch....

- been locking U up since day 1

- go refer to your garbage posts......still cant C me son



next

DonDadda59
01-09-2013, 08:17 PM
- actually Kobe will break the alltime scoring record in 3 more seasons...( passing MJ next season)..18 seasons vs 15 seasons???....in context MJ did it in 3 less seasons.....but Kobe also played less minutes his first 2 years

- and "HIGH PERCENTAGE" is a moot point

This is the list of guards/small forwards who shot over 50% and had 20+ PPG during MJ's era(1985-1998).

Michael Jordan - 6 times
Chris Mullen - 6 times
Adrian Dantley - 4 times
Kiki Vandewedge - 4 times
Reggie Miller - 3 times
James Worthy - 3 times
Alex English - 3 times
Dale Ellis - 3 times
Magic Johnson - 2 times
Penny Hardaway - 2 times
Kevin Johnson - 2 times
Clyde Drexler - 2 times
Cedric Ceballos - 2 times
Mark Aguirre - 2 times
Gary Payton - once
Byron Scott - once
Rolando Blackman - once
Walter Davis - once
Jeff Hornacek - once
Otis Birdsong - once
Jeff Malone - once
George Gervin - once
Drazen Petrovic - once
Reggie Lewis - once
Derek Smith - once
Scottie Pippen - once



And here is the list of guards/small forwards who shot over 50% and had 20+ PPG during the post-Lockout era(2000-2010).

Lebron James - once
Chris Paul - once
Tony Parker - once
Monta Ellis - once
Shawn Marion - once


So in MJ's era it was done 56 times by 26 different players.

from 2000- 2010 it has been done only 5 times by 5 different players....a totally different era ..especially for perimeter players.

Why did you cut it off at 2010? :biggums:

Wade had 25 PPG on 50% shooting the next year, Durant missed it by .004 last year (currently at 52% this year) and the best player on the planet is on a current 4 year streak of shooting over 50% at 20PPG+. All you've proven is that Kobe isn't as good as Lebron, as if we needed more proof :lol

And as someone who is capable of critical thinking already showed, the 3 is now more prominent in the NBA than it was in previous eras, thus the lower %s for chuckers. Just look at what happened when Lebron stopped settling for awful 3s and took his game closer to the basket. You gonna credit his skyrocketing FG% to 'zone' or some other bullshit excuse? That's called Basketball IQ, I wouldn't expect a chuckbe stan to understand that simple concept.

Calabis
01-09-2013, 08:18 PM
- thier TS% difference is only 2%.....whoopptity doooo dahhhhh!!!

- if only Kobe shot 2% higher the Lakers could have won 10 championships by now....


- Jordan stans ruining basketball 1 post at a time.

Yes because FT's are a result of made and missed shots from the field :facepalm

Kobe fans love this bullshit TS%, but bring up winshare % and its a bullshit stat.

RRR3
01-09-2013, 08:19 PM
http://fotos.fotoflexer.com/cbf00bcb978ea4b7c30a858acb1358e2.jpg

Calabis
01-09-2013, 08:20 PM
Why did you cut it off at 2010? :biggums:

Wade had 25 PPG on 50% shooting the next year, Durant missed it by .004 last year (currently at 52% this year) and the best player on the planet is on a current 4 year streak of shooting over 50% at 20PPG+. All you've proven is that Kobe isn't as good as Lebron, as if we needed more proof :lol

And as someone who is capable of critical thinking already showed, the 3 is now more prominent in the NBA than it was in previous eras, thus the lower %s for chuckers. Just look at what happened when Lebron stopped settling for awful 3s and took his game closer to the basket. You gonna credit his skyrocketing FG% to 'zone' or some other bullshit excuse? That's called Basketball IQ, I wouldn't expect a chuckbe stan to understand that simple concept.

Don't speak with logic, all he knows is

Jordan played in a weak era, Lebron and Durant now play in a weak era, only Kobe played in a tough league

AlphaWolf24
01-09-2013, 08:20 PM
Why did you cut it off at 2010? :biggums:

Wade had 28 PPG on 50% shooting the next year, Durant missed it by .004 last year (currently at 52% this year) and the best player on the planet is on a current 4 year streak of shooting over 50% at 20PPG+. All you've proven is that Kobe isn't as good as Lebron, as if we needed more proof :lol

And as someone who is capable of critical thinking already showed, the 3 is now more prominent in the NBA than it was in previous eras, thus the lower %s for chuckers. Just look at what happened when Lebron stopped settling for awful 3s and took his game closer to the basket. You gonna credit his skyrocketing FG% to 'zone' or some other bullshit excuse? That's called Basketball IQ, I wouldn't expect a chuckbe stan to understand that simple concept.


- so why was Hondo's FG% at 43%???...when he only took 5 3's??

- why was hayes FG% so low.....when he took 15 3's his whole career?

- who cares if Durant din't shoot 50%....you proved my point...it's still a handful of players vs the bucketloads of 80's/90's players who shot a high %

Shaquille O'Neal
01-09-2013, 08:24 PM
shaq's missed more free throws than that :roll: :roll:
And these idiots talking about 2000 - 2010 being "tougher" defensively.

MJ MISSED less with handchecking allowed rules in place.

Kids. The internet's full of them.

So let's get this straight - Kobe has played 2 more seasons than MJ and has far fewer points/assists/steals/rebounds/blocks, far MORE turnovers and missed shots, played with Shaq for 8 years and Pau / Bynum / Howard for 6 (while Michael NEVER had a dominant big man) and yet somehow Kobe is comparable to Jordan? 1 MVP vs 5? 2 scoring vs 10? 6 FMVP vs 2?
:roll::lol:oldlol::roll::oldlol:

I wouldn't put Kobe as the best Laker of all time (either Magic or even Kareem).

Silly Kobe fans.:rolleyes:

DonDadda59
01-09-2013, 08:28 PM
- so why was Hondo's FG% at 43%???...when he only took 5 3's??

- why was hayes FG% so low.....when he took 15 3's his whole career?

- who cares if Durant din't shoot 50%....you proved my point...it's still a handful of players vs the bucketloads of 80's/90's players who shot a high %

My dude, your misguided point was that the reason Kobe's FG% is lower than MJ's was because of different eras, defenses, etc. You say this when the best player on the planet is riding a 4 year streak of shooting 50% or higher (currently shooting 54%), with guys like Durant and Wade near or past that barrier now and in the past. How do you explain that?

Is Lebron immune to the superior defense of this era or more likely- is he, like Michael Jordan, just a plain better, smarter player than Kobe 'king chucker' Bryant? What's the deal? :biggums:

STATUTORY
01-09-2013, 08:31 PM
My dude, your misguided point was that the reason Kobe's FG% is lower than MJ's was because of different eras, defenses, etc. You say this when the best player on the planet is riding a 4 year streak of shooting 50% or higher (currently shooting 54%), with guys like Durant and Wade near or past that barrier now and in the past. How do you explain that?

Is Lebron immune to the superior defense of this era or more likely- is he, like Michael Jordan, just a plain better, smarter player than Kobe 'king chucker' Bryant? What's the deal? :biggums:

we have crossed over into a different era now. Kobe spent his prime fg% years in the most offensive depressed era in NBA history 1998-2004

no one was shooting over 50% then

Calabis
01-09-2013, 08:31 PM
- Stay Mad B!tch....

- been locking U up since day 1

- go refer to your garbage posts......still cant C me son



next

Well if garbage is facts about the reason why shooting percentages have dropped, why rule changes have made it easier for perimeter players, why Tony Parker has led the league in in the paint scoring before, with other perimeter guys being in top 5, Shaq shooting his best FG% in the zone years....I guess it would be garbage in Kobeville. Also I don't get mad over the internet

talamo
01-09-2013, 08:38 PM
Wow i've been out and about all day and i cant believe i havent heard about this. Knew i should have watched sports center before i left this morning. Truly important interesting kewl stat here :applause:

The-Legend-24
01-09-2013, 08:40 PM
:applause: Top5Be

Money 23
01-09-2013, 08:43 PM
we have crossed over into a different era now. Kobe spent his prime fg% years in the most offensive depressed era in NBA history 1998-2004

no one was shooting over 50% then
That isn't strictly due to defense. Style of play, lack of offensive intelligence and skills (like passing, shooting) from an era where people drafted young, dumb HSers on "potential"

AlphaWolf24
01-09-2013, 08:44 PM
My dude, your misguided point was that the reason Kobe's FG% is lower than MJ's was because of different eras, defenses, etc. You say this when the best player on the planet is riding a 4 year streak of shooting 50% or higher (currently shooting 54%), with guys like Durant and Wade near or past that barrier now and in the past. How do you explain that?

Is Lebron immune to the superior defense of this era or more likely- is he, like Michael Jordan, just a plain better, smarter player than Kobe 'king chucker' Bryant? What's the deal? :biggums:



- I'm saying the reason why Kobe's FG% is lower....A.) yes perimeter players are more game based 15' + and further out....and B)defense has changed

Kobe Bryant career

2PT%------------------------>48.3%
3PT%(eFG)------------------>33.9%
FT%-------------------------->83.7%
TS%(2PT%+ 3PT%+ FT%)-->55.7%

Michael Jordan career

2PT%------------------------>51.0%
3PT%(eFG)------------------>32.7%
FT%-------------------------->83.5%
TS%(2PT%+ 3PT%+ FT%)-->56.9%

Overall, in points per possesion kobe is behind michael by only 1.2% because he is marginally a better FT shooter, and he takes and makes a lot more threes(the main reason he's so behind in FG%). But overall, with all factors considered he's literally behind jordan by only 1.2% in overall efficiency. It's amazing how people downplay kobe's FG% without taking into account he took 3X the amount of threes, was more efficient from beyond the arc, and was marginally a better FT shooter..

1.2% is comparible


For some perspective, here are the league averages for all the years MJ shot over 50%.

88' - 48%
89' - 47.7%
90' - 47.6%
91' - 47.4%
92' - 47.2%

And here are the league averages in the post-MJ era.

00' - 44.9%
01' - 44.3%
02' - 44.5%
03' - 44.2%
04' - 43.9%
05' - 44.7%
06' - 45.4%
07' - 45.8%
08' - 45.7%
09' - 45.9%
10' - 46.1%


- How is Lebron immune?....he shoots 48%???...and his game is more based around Slashing and Driving ...same with Wade...both very similar players...???..and wade only shot 50% once his past 9 seasons??

- so it's only Kobe??....looks like league wide FG% has dropped.....defensive change / forcing a more perimeter based game....

and 5 Championships and 7 NBA Finals proved he aint chickin he's doin it deep..

Smoke117
01-09-2013, 08:50 PM
:bowdown:

Bandito
01-09-2013, 08:55 PM
I misread the threat title, I am so stupid:hammerhead:

Calabis
01-09-2013, 09:01 PM
we have crossed over into a different era now. Kobe spent his prime fg% years in the most offensive depressed era in NBA history 1998-2004

no one was shooting over 50% then

And there it is only Kobe has played in a tough era:applause:

Here u go...look at facts

let's see u'r hero in his 4th season 99-2000/yes he was a starter against Jordan old competition

avg 22 pts a game his opposition that year:

Reggie Miller, Steve Smith, Nick Anderson,A.Hardaway, Barry, Strickland, Peeler, Daniels, Iverson, Houston, Hughes, Stackhouse, Piatkowski, Posey, Dickerson, Majerle, McGrady, Mobley, Pierce, Pearson, Sealy, Wahad, Eisley, Porter, Allen, Sura, Finley, Mercer, Elie, Rider, Legler, Chapman, Griffin, Nesby....lol...the same dudes that at age 34-35 Jordan was avg 28-30ppg against and winning league MVP's

Mitch Richmond vs Kobe this year: Rock avg 27.5, Kobe avg 14.0 winner Richmond

Come on Kobe u should have been dumping 50 on these scrubs..:wtf:

By the way Kobe as of 2009, who is the hardest player for u to guard?

Oh my a Jordan era guy, that was past his prime when u faced him? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mKCxkJTFrU&feature=relmfu)

Kobe since u were so superior to any athlete compared to the old slow unathletic white guys of Jordan's time.....why didn't u start at 18? U should have been the 23 year old version of MJ at 18, since u are so far ahead talent wise?

Kobe's best year scoring came against the likes of: Individual Matchups listed 05/06: Bell, Barbosa, Desmond Mason, Telfair, Marquis Daniels, R. Davis, R. Allen, Eddie Jones, Stackhouse, Hinrich, Ginobili, Mobley, Iggy, Richardson, Buckner, Head, Claxton, Redd, Wells, T. Allen, V. Carter, Payton, Hamilton, Pierce, Hido, K. Martin, J. Dixon, J. Johnson, D. Brown, D. Wesley, R. Felton, F. Jones, Crawford, Fisher, Rose, Garcia, Wade, Jasikevicius, Cassell, Snow

Juggernauts???

Again 6 perimeter DPOY in Jordan era....1 in Kobe's era... Kobestans have no answers for this...they ignore it and post midget pictures yet forget about their hero against the heralded Eric Snow

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/49/115857439_3199180af5.jpg

38%....really:bowdown:

AND WHILE IN CLEVELAND (DATE: JAN 12,2006) KOBE WAS ON A TEAR

Eric Snow scored nine points, but his value was not on the offensive end. Snow blanketed Bryant for much of the game and held the player who

DonDadda59
01-09-2013, 09:08 PM
- I'm saying the reason why Kobe's FG% is lower is...

Because he is clearly an inferior player to both Michael Jordan and Lebron James. Those guys put up their efficiency regardless of rules, eras, etc because they have the skill and more importantly the genius basketball IQ.



For some perspective, here are the league averages for all the years MJ shot over 50%.

88' - 48%
89' - 47.7%
90' - 47.6%
91' - 47.4%
92' - 47.2%

And here are the league averages in the post-MJ era.

00' - 44.9%
01' - 44.3%
02' - 44.5%
03' - 44.2%
04' - 43.9%
05' - 44.7%
06' - 45.4%
07' - 45.8%
08' - 45.7%
09' - 45.9%
10' - 46.1%

Teams/the league were more interior oriented and took far less 3s in Jordan's era. Which is why his domination is even more impressive in retrospect. A guard leading his team to championships in that era without an offensively dominant big man was an anomaly. Jordan did it 6x. Look who was in the championship series when Jordan was playing baseball- Shaq, Hakeem, Ewing.

Not only is the league completely perimeter oriented now, big men for the most part are garbage with a few exceptions. Just look at Dwight, he has been accepted by the vast majority of sports fans as the best, most dominant center in the game today and he's arguably the 3rd option on the Lakers, playing behind a shot-jacking guard. The best C in the game is the third option on his team, think about that for a second.



- How is Lebron immune?....he shoots 48%???...and his game is more based around Slashing and Driving ...same with Wade...both very similar players...???..and wade only shot 50% once his past 9 seasons??

Lebron started taking better quality shots. In the years where he was in the 47-49% range, he was taking 4-5 3s per game. Since he's cut down his 3s to 2-4 per game, he's shot in the 51-54% range. It's simple logic, you cut down on chucking from long distance, you use bball IQ and take higher quality shots, you play more efficiently. You can at least admit that Kobe from time to time takes the worst shots imagineable when he's in hero ball mode, can't you? And Wade has been in the .495-50% range for 4 seasons, virtually half his career. If Kobe is the GOAT, you'd think he'd be a better slasher and driver and have a higher bball IQ. If he's lacking in those areas, then he's obviously not in that conversation.


- so it's only Kobe??....looks like league wide FG% has dropped.....defensive change / forcing a more perimeter based game....

I agree, the rule changes have forced a more perimeter oriented game. More guys are out there chucking 3s instead of looking for more optimal shots (with the exception of the truly elite players and teams). The best players in the league do not have any issues scoring with efficiency. Their skill and IQ overcome any situation. Those who can't are the overrated ones.


and 5 Championships and 7 NBA Finals proved he aint chickin he's doin it deep..

Hondo has 8 championships, jussayin'.

pmj
01-09-2013, 09:11 PM
Kobe == Favre IMO

Ironman, great, but also gunslinger/chucker

funnystuff
01-09-2013, 09:27 PM
Alpha trying soooooo hard. :roll:

tpols
01-09-2013, 09:38 PM
Well kobes what 5th all time points right now? Behind the GOAT, and four big men right? He should have the money st missed shots then.. If he didn't that would mean he was shooting better than seven footers and Michael Jordan.

scandisk_
01-09-2013, 11:43 PM
The Mamba hate in this thread is soo strong. Well most of em don't hate Kobe anyways, just to rile up his stans :mad:

Asukal
01-10-2013, 12:16 AM
Goat chucker! :applause: :applause: :applause: :bowdown:

Dro
01-10-2013, 01:51 AM
- Stay Mad B!tch....

- been locking U up since day 1

- go refer to your garbage posts......still cant C me son



next
How old are you? A grown ass man can't be this much of a stan for one player..:confusedshrug:

Dro
01-10-2013, 01:53 AM
The Mamba hate in this thread is soo strong. Well most of em don't hate Kobe anyways, just to rile up his stans :mad:
Well, tell your boy Alpha to stop hanging from Kobe's nuts so hard...:banghead:

KOBE143
01-10-2013, 01:58 AM
Fake

Half of it were assists

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8719297/how-kobe-bryant-missed-shots-translate-new-nba-statistic-kobe-assist :confusedshrug:

Hank
01-10-2013, 02:39 AM
Shot jacker


The idiot broke the missed shots record years and YEARS before he can ever claim the points record.. :oldlol:


Tells you what he is. A fake who rode top frontcourts through western conference playoffs that no other western team could match upfront.. and rode shaq before that.


Kobe the stringbean bryant = forever and always just an overrated shotjacker

scandisk_
01-10-2013, 03:00 AM
Well, tell your boy Alpha to stop hanging from Kobe's nuts so hard...:banghead:

wateva :pimp:

Sharmer
01-10-2013, 03:27 AM
This thread should stay open, as reminder of the biggest ball hog in NBA history.

pauk
01-10-2013, 04:27 AM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lowwgtmEQK1qca4iqo1_400.gif

TheBigVeto
01-10-2013, 04:50 AM
http://fotos.fotoflexer.com/cbf00bcb978ea4b7c30a858acb1358e2.jpg

:applause:

Magic bird
01-10-2013, 06:30 AM
"The Mamba strikes with precision and Accuracy" ~ Kobe Bryant

LEFT4DEAD
01-10-2013, 06:32 AM
http://fotos.fotoflexer.com/cbf00bcb978ea4b7c30a858acb1358e2.jpg
:roll: :roll:

AlphaWolf24
01-10-2013, 02:00 PM
Because he is clearly an inferior player to both Michael Jordan and Lebron James. Those guys put up their efficiency regardless of rules, eras, etc because they have the skill and more importantly the genius basketball IQ.

inferior?....there is a 1.2% TS% difference between MJ and Kobe ( as I showed in my previous post)....how can that be looked at as inferior when Kobe has done everything throughout his career and is less then 2% difference then Michael Jordan....



Teams/the league were more interior oriented and took far less 3s in Jordan's era. Which is why his domination is even more impressive in retrospect. A guard leading his team to championships in that era without an offensively dominant big man was an anomaly. Jordan did it 6x. Look who was in the championship series when Jordan was playing baseball- Shaq, Hakeem, Ewing.

Not only is the league completely perimeter oriented now, big men for the most part are garbage with a few exceptions. Just look at Dwight, he has been accepted by the vast majority of sports fans as the best, most dominant center in the game today and he's arguably the 3rd option on the Lakers, playing behind a shot-jacking guard. The best C in the game is the third option on his team, think about that for a second.


Jordan did dominate.....no question. But trying to spin it that he had no " Dominate Center"???....he had a great team that nearly beat the NY Knicks...without Jordan!!!

The Bull's were filled with great players top to bottom.....Kobe played with Shaq early on...but those Lakers teams were no where near as deep as MJ's Bull's teams....even in 94' 3 Bull's were allstars!!

and Kobe has gone against some of the best Bigs in NBA History.....Duncan , Garnett , Ming , Howard and Hakeem etc..etc..

trying to say MJ had no great center is dumb...he had HOF teamates and the greatest defender/rebounder of the era for 3 of his titles....the Bull's were a great team without Jordan ...as proven through a 82 game season.



Lebron started taking better quality shots. In the years where he was in the 47-49% range, he was taking 4-5 3s per game. Since he's cut down his 3s to 2-4 per game, he's shot in the 51-54% range. It's simple logic, you cut down on chucking from long distance, you use bball IQ and take higher quality shots, you play more efficiently. You can at least admit that Kobe from time to time takes the worst shots imagineable when he's in hero ball mode, can't you? And Wade has been in the .495-50% range for 4 seasons, virtually half his career. If Kobe is the GOAT, you'd think he'd be a better slasher and driver and have a higher bball IQ. If he's lacking in those areas, then he's obviously not in that conversation.

- again....if you saying Kobe shoots 1.2% lower TS% then MJ....that means he doesn't have a high BBAll IQ....you are 100% wrong....

- marginal stat differences does not tell if a player has a BB iq....over a decade of Top shelf defense and offense and the most titles in the 00's should hold far more weight then 1% TS

- Lebron did change his game a little...he also has 2 other top 10 players who can score.....he also put up the biggest choke job in superstar history....how's that IQ again???


I agree, the rule changes have forced a more perimeter oriented game. More guys are out there chucking 3s instead of looking for more optimal shots (with the exception of the truly elite players and teams). The best players in the league do not have any issues scoring with efficiency. Their skill and IQ overcome any situation. Those who can't are the overrated ones.



Hondo has 8 championships, jussayin'.

- yes and he also shot 43% despite only taking 5 3's his whole career.....

- and Kobe is one of the best players in the league.....that's why he is so efficient, that's why he has so many titles, that's why he is only 1.2% differnece TS% then MJ.....that's why he is still a top player in the league after so many years.






question..

player A has taken 0 3pointers, drawn 0 fouls. he's shot 20000 times and is 50% from the field.

for his career, player B has taken 0 2pointers, drawn 0 fouls. he's shot 20000 times and is 40% from the field.

did player A and his career 50% shooting do better than player B and his career 40% shooting?

Jacks3
01-10-2013, 02:34 PM
56% career TS. 59% TS this year. +3-4% relative to league average over his decade long prime (01-10).

Dude is one of the most efficient high-volume players ever. lol @ the ignorance of these clowns. :lol

AlphaWolf24
01-10-2013, 04:19 PM
56% career TS. 59% TS this year. +3-4% relative to league average over his decade long prime (01-10).

Dude is one of the most efficient high-volume players ever. lol @ the ignorance of these clowns. :lol


YUP....and


Ts% isn't perfect but it does say a lot more than FG% will.

You can look at zone FG% with draw rate, usage and 3pt shooting to get an idea of what's goin on, plus video analysis to supplement but at a base,

TS% does tell you far more who is performing well per-possession as a scorer. There are always contextual factors to consider, but the kind of arguments these clowns / TROLLS are putting out here are exactly the kind of BS that destroys basketball thinking

I know i was most likely responding to trolls.....but whateva...



it's fun....YAY!!!!

tpols
01-10-2013, 04:26 PM
Kun isn't a kobe hater. :oldlol: This shit makes the dudes day!

Clutch
01-10-2013, 04:27 PM
BrickBe :bowdown:

kNicKz
01-10-2013, 04:29 PM
Brett Favre

:bowdown:

AlphaWolf24
01-10-2013, 04:29 PM
Most missed FG attempts per game..

per game:
13.59 Fulks
13.52 Baylor
12.76 Iverson
11.71 Jordan
10.90 Wilkins
10.81 Kobe

damn Fulks..:confusedshrug:


stay mad....

DuMa
01-10-2013, 04:31 PM
who is the next closest active player?

RRR3
01-10-2013, 04:31 PM
Most missed FG attempts per game..

per game:
13.59 Fulks
13.52 Baylor
12.76 Iverson
11.71 Jordan
10.90 Wilkins
10.81 Kobe

damn Fulks..:confusedshrug:


stay mad....
Stop being disingenuous, Pup, you know there's much more to it than that.

STATUTORY
01-10-2013, 04:31 PM
Most missed FG attempts per game..

per game:
13.59 Fulks
13.52 Baylor
12.76 Iverson
11.71 Jordan
10.90 Wilkins
10.81 Kobe

damn Fulks..:confusedshrug:


stay mad....

is that Eddie Jordan or Deandre Jordan? cause it can't possibly be Mr. Space Jam himself with that level of chucking could it?

Ne 1
01-10-2013, 04:50 PM
Again 6 perimeter DPOY in Jordan era....1 in Kobe's era

Wrong. There was only 1 perimeter player who won DPOY during the "Jordan era" (90s) Gary Payton, as there was only 1 perimeter player won won DPOY during the "Kobe era" (00s) Ron Artest.

Artest won it and Payton won it when they didn't deserve it. Why? Because they had big personalities. Ron Artest wasn't even the defensive anchor on his team, Jermaine O'Neal was, and Ben Wallace was the most dominant defensive player that season. When Gary won it in 1996, David Robinson was the most dominant defensive player in the season, but Gary basically campaigned for it and always had a big mouth and Ron Artest is as we all know crazy and an attention whore.

Anyway the DPOY, just like MVP is a media-voted award, so unless you are a Center blocking 4 shots a game you have to have a big personality as a perimeter player which Pippen in 1995 didn't have to be get it when he's literally probably the only non Center/PF to actually deserve it as far as legitimately anchoring a defense as perimeter player. When it comes to DPOY a lot of blocks > complete defensive game in voter's minds 9 times out of 10.

The_Yearning
01-10-2013, 04:53 PM
Wilt's record is breakable... this record is not.

gengiskhan
01-10-2013, 06:07 PM
BrickBe :bowdown:

Chokebe

Kobe missed a game winner against spurs.

Calabis
01-10-2013, 07:24 PM
Wrong. There was only 1 perimeter player who won DPOY during the "Jordan era" (90s) Gary Payton, as there was only 1 perimeter player won won DPOY during the "Kobe era" (00s) Ron Artest.

Artest won it and Payton won it when they didn't deserve it. Why? Because they had big personalities. Ron Artest wasn't even the defensive anchor on his team, Jermaine O'Neal was, and Ben Wallace was the most dominant defensive player that season. When Gary won it in 1996, David Robinson was the most dominant defensive player in the season, but Gary basically campaigned for it and always had a big mouth and Ron Artest is as we all know crazy and an attention whore.

Anyway the DPOY, just like MVP is a media-voted award, so unless you are a Center blocking 4 shots a game you have to have a big personality as a perimeter player which Pippen in 1995 didn't have to be get it when he's literally probably the only non Center/PF to actually deserve it as far as legitimately anchoring a defense as perimeter player. When it comes to DPOY a lot of blocks > complete defensive game in voter's minds 9 times out of 10.

Wrong last time I checked Jordan started in 84....Jordan 1x, Rodman 2x, Payton 1x, Artest 1x,Alvin Robertson 1x....that equals 6...and yes every one of them deserved it....Kobe's career only one perimeter player has won it Artest

Glide2keva
01-10-2013, 07:32 PM
is that Eddie Jordan or Deandre Jordan? cause it can't possibly be Mr. Space Jam himself with that level of chucking could it?
MJ FG% 49.7 = no chucking.

Chuckbe FG% 45.3 + most missed shots in NBA history = Chuck master.

RoboticWang
01-18-2013, 02:35 AM
Another great performance by chuckbe tonight. 8/25 ::D:D:D

RoseCity07
01-18-2013, 02:40 AM
Missedalotofshotsbe

Hank
01-18-2013, 02:45 AM
http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh600/Rodman2124/kobeclutch.gif

Magic bird
01-18-2013, 02:48 AM
http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh600/Rodman2124/kobeclutch.gif
http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k357/ilovebourbon/chippernonoignmn4nk4jm5.gif

DonDadda59
01-20-2013, 04:57 PM
Kobe working hard to make sure this record is never touched. Stack it high Bean, build that muh'phucka to the sky :bowdown: :applause:

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/2/20/1329753067972/A-pile-of-bricks-007.jpg

Deuce Bigalow
01-20-2013, 05:57 PM
Most missed FG attempts per game..

per game:
13.59 Fulks
13.52 Baylor
12.76 Iverson
11.71 Jordan
10.90 Wilkins
10.81 Kobe

damn Fulks..:confusedshrug:


stay mad....
:applause:

NumberSix
01-20-2013, 06:42 PM
Most missed FG attempts per game..

per game:
13.59 Fulks
13.52 Baylor
12.76 Iverson
11.71 Jordan
10.90 Wilkins
10.81 Kobe

damn Fulks..:confusedshrug:


stay mad....
Kobe with yet another volume record.:lol

Hank
01-21-2013, 02:49 AM
10-32


22 misses tonight.


18 misses last Thursday vs the Heat.


12 turnovers in both games.


"The Stringbean"

Deuce Bigalow
01-21-2013, 02:50 AM
10-32


22 misses tonight.
And still more rings than Miami franchise. :applause:

PistolPete44
01-21-2013, 03:12 AM
And still more rings than Miami franchise. :applause:
zzz what does that have to do with you? :facepalm only 3 franchises have more ring than kobe
just kill yourself

Pacers4ever
01-21-2013, 03:15 AM
And still more rings than Miami franchise. :applause:
you have to resort to that for a comeback :lol

Deuce Bigalow
01-21-2013, 03:19 AM
zzz what does that have to do with you? :facepalm only 3 franchises have more ring than kobe
just kill yourself
Why so much mad Pete?

PistolPete44
01-21-2013, 03:26 AM
Why so much mad Pete?
You are the one mentally tortured by kobrick cryant's chokingness

Deuce Bigalow
01-21-2013, 03:29 AM
You are the one mentally tortured by kobrick cryant's chokingness
I don't understand Pete?

SourPatchKids
01-21-2013, 05:41 AM
Well, first of all he's a guard. Second of all he's not MJ.

TheMan
01-21-2013, 06:21 PM
http://fotos.fotoflexer.com/cbf00bcb978ea4b7c30a858acb1358e2.jpg
How great is our GAWD:bowdown:

Deuce Bigalow
01-21-2013, 06:25 PM
How great is our GAWD:bowdown:
Not better than the GOAT that averaged more Missed FGA per game.

TheMan
01-21-2013, 06:25 PM
MJ FG% 49.7 = no chucking.

Chuckbe FG% 45.3 + most missed shots in NBA history = Chuck master.
MJ is over 50 percent FG if you take his old man Wizards days

MJ GOAT:bowdown:

Kobe, GOAT chucker chuckbe

TheMan
01-21-2013, 06:26 PM
Not better than the GOAT that averaged more Missed FGA per game.
Check career FG percentage, son.:bowdown:

TheMan
01-22-2013, 02:24 PM
Chuckbe Bryant 7/22 last night, shut down by Jimmy Butler and his most missed shots in a career record keeps growing:oldlol:
:bowdown: How great is our GAWD:bowdown:

AlphaWolf24
01-22-2013, 02:28 PM
Chuckbe Bryant 7/22 last night, shut down by Jimmy Butler and his most missed shots in a career record keeps growing:oldlol:
:bowdown: How great is our GAWD:bowdown:


U gonna watch his 81 point game today?....at 60% FG....against Jalen Rose MO pete???

Down by 18 points.....

81 point game is the most iconic game ever televised....you gotta watch it.

TheMan
01-22-2013, 02:49 PM
U gonna watch his 81 point game today?....at 60% FG....against Jalen Rose MO pete???

Down by 18 points.....

81 point game is the most iconic game ever televised....you gotta watch it.
That was prime Kobe, that Kobe would've murdered Butler last night...today's Kobe has nothing on that Kobe.

Now you know how silly your argument of a young Kobe going up against a washed up old ass MJ is trash???? As Kobe gets older and continues to play, he's gonna look like trash more often and a lot of people here at ISH are gonna troll the Kobe trolls.

You guys had it coming and it's here now, get used to it:oldlol:

Hank
01-26-2013, 10:10 PM
And let's not forget what a turnover machine he is:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=288762

Akrazotile
02-17-2014, 02:27 PM
if you think he wont have a chance to make history again in the playoffs seeing as his lakers are out of the race now... think again

Also, keep in mind that Kobe already holds the “record” for most missed FGA in NBA playoff history, having passed Jordan during the 2011 postseason. The list here contains all the same names as above except Elvin Hayes.



He broke the playoff record for missed shots two seasons before breaking the regular season record :lol

Marlo_Stanfield
02-17-2014, 02:28 PM
He broke the playoff record for missed shots two seasons before breaking the regular season record :lol
http://static.foxsports.com/content/fscom//img/2010/05/28/sunsbrooklopezgif_20100528102802_0_0.GIF

SexSymbol
02-17-2014, 02:31 PM
http://static.foxsports.com/content/fscom//img/2010/05/28/sunsbrooklopezgif_20100528102802_0_0.GIF
Please explain the using of this gif for the certain situation, because there's really nothing that was even remotely funny or ether like in the guy's post.

DonDadda59
02-17-2014, 02:34 PM
He broke the playoff record for missed shots two seasons before breaking the regular season record :lol

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/49/Kobe_Doin'_Work.jpg

Purch
07-05-2014, 10:37 AM
:pimp:

DMV2
07-05-2014, 11:36 AM
As of right now

13,319 missed shots in regular season
2484 missed shots in the playoffs

15,804 total

How great is our Godbe?

PsychoBe
07-05-2014, 11:39 AM
As of right now

13,319 missed shots in regular season
2484 missed shots in the playoffs

15,804 total

How great is our Godbe?

5/7

choppermagic
07-05-2014, 11:49 AM
Babe Ruth also held the record for striking out in a season for 29 years until it was broken by Micky Mantle.

Kobe is fearless. Makes him dangerous for defenders and also drives his critics nuts.

kennethgriffin
07-05-2014, 11:57 AM
isnt kobe like a few months away from passing jordan in scoring though

then who has more points than kobe? 2 big men?

so karl malone and kareem abdul jabbar are the only guys who scored more. yeah i would expect them to have taken less shots. they don't shoot three pointers

its impossible to be a guard that climbs that high in scoring and not miss allot of shots.

by the time he retires he'l have 36-37k points



its like if a guy wins 500 races in his career as a racecar driver and people saying "all time record most gasoline used"

seriously?

Ca$H
07-05-2014, 11:59 AM
http://s2.postimage.org/xquyrkbbd/Kobe_Bryant.jpg

Another milestone for the GOAT. :eek: :applause:

tell me. Where did Kobe touch you?

GimmeThat
07-05-2014, 12:00 PM
just apply the 80/20 rule to the players who never even get to take 15,296 shots that ever played in the league.


my guesses is you won't like what you find.

DMV2
11-13-2014, 04:48 PM
Not even an ankle injury can stop Kobe from breaking the regular season missed shots record.

So now he's the undisputed triple crown king of missed shots. Total missed shots(regular and playoffs), playoff and now regular season record holder.

Congrats, Kobe! :applause:

sportjames23
11-13-2014, 05:05 PM
There's a choice we're making
We're saving our own lives
Its true we'll make a better day
Just you and me.


LOL, this nikka went 'We Are The World' on us. An old post, but still. :oldlol:

sportjames23
11-13-2014, 05:07 PM
Not even an ankle injury can stop Kobe from breaking the regular season missed shots record.

So now he's the undisputed triple crown king of missed shots. Total missed shots(regular and playoffs), playoff and now regular season record holder.

Congrats, Kobe! :applause:


Alpha as ****. Bron will never touch that.

DMV2
10-29-2015, 07:54 AM
Add 16 more missed shot to this all-time GOAT of an accomplishment.

If he's gonna miss 16 shots a game this season, we're looking at 1312 more misses, boys.

DMV2
10-29-2015, 07:57 AM
Eh yo! Somebody tell Donald Trump to forget about the Mexicans. I'm sure with all the bricks Kobe will be shooting this season, he'd be able to build us a giant wall on our borders. :roll:

Mr Feeny
10-29-2015, 08:53 AM
Eh yo! Somebody tell Donald Trump to forget about the Mexicans. I'm sure with all the bricks Kobe will be shooting this season, he'd be able to build us a giant wall on our borders. :roll:

http://i.imgur.com/qMOKX.gif