F uck vegans, like seriously.

[RoboticWang]

"Oh nooo I don't consume anything that comes from animals."
But you'll eat food imported from another country. Do you know how much fuel those planes are using? Do you know how many species are dying because their habitat is too warm? I bet you like polar bears. Good luck finding them. Dolphins? Them too. Oh, and those fossil fuels in those planes? Yea. You wouldn't be here unless those dinosaurs died off in their horrendously painful deaths.
Ah, and I almost forgot the mistreated and underpayed workers with no benefits that pick your vegetables, you stuck-up self-righteous idiot ****. And where do you think that fertilizer comes from? Cows that are only there because someone like me is gonna eat them.
Scum.

End of rant.

[Velocirap31]

So we're all scum?

[DeuceWallaces]

Shut the **** up you moron.

[RoboticWang]

This reminds me of a little joke:
How can you tell if someone's vegan? Don't worry--THEY'LL ****ING TELL YOU.

[rufuspaul]

Natalie Portman is a vegan I'd f*ck.

[Bandito]

Well vegan people tend to be judgemental of meat eaters.

[crisoner]

I just don't like the uppity Vegan's. The ones that judge you if you are not (Hipster Vegans).
But besides that I give vegans props....no way I could do that. And it is good for their health.

[LJJ]

They are trying to do their part against horrific animal abuse.

**** them seriously. Bunch of *****.

[fiddy]

But besides that I give vegans props....no way I could do that. And it is good for their health.

Everyone is free to do whatever the **** he wants with his body. But how exactly not eating animal products is healthy? Its just the opposite IMO.

[RoboticWang]

They are trying to do their part against horrific animal abuse.

**** them seriously. Bunch of *****.
The reason why I disagree with a lot of vegans is due to their ignorance of how they're still contributing to the death of animals. For allergies or whatever, fine, but don't think you're not contributing to the problem.

[rufuspaul]

I just don't like the uppity Vegan's. The ones that judge you if you are not (Hipster Vegans).
But besides that I give vegans props....no way I could do that. And it is good for their health.


That's kind of how I feel. I actually try and eat vegetarian (not vegan) a couple days a week but no way could I give up meat altogether.

[LJJ]

The reason why I disagree with a lot of vegans is due to their ignorance of how they're still contributing to the death of animals. For allergies or whatever, fine, but don't think you're not contributing to the problem.

I get it, a lot of them are judgmental ***** and people hating hypocrites, but I still like that attitude better than people who act nice in your face but actually don't care about anything other than themselves.

[daily]

"Oh nooo I don't consume anything that comes from animals."
But you'll eat food imported from another country. Do you know how much fuel those planes are using? Do you know how many species are dying because their habitat is too warm? I bet you like polar bears. Good luck finding them. Dolphins? Them too. Oh, and those fossil fuels in those planes? Yea. You wouldn't be here unless those dinosaurs died off in their horrendously painful deaths.
Ah, and I almost forgot the mistreated and underpayed workers with no benefits that pick your vegetables, you stuck-up self-righteous idiot ****. And where do you think that fertilizer comes from? Cows that are only there because someone like me is gonna eat them.
Scum.

End of rant.

If you're going down this road you're better to point out the millions of animals killed by farming. Having been around farms you won't believe the carnage of small animals and birds when a tractor plows up a depleted field for a new crop.

[DeuceWallaces]

Everyone is free to do whatever the **** he wants with his body. But how exactly not eating animal products is healthy? Its just the opposite IMO.

Well your opinion is completely false. Animal flesh is not very good for you nor is it necessary; lots of carcinogens.

[fiddy]

Well your opinion is completely false. Animal flesh is not very good for you nor is it necessary; lots of carcinogens.

Where do you get your amino acids from? If not eggs or meat?

[Remix]

Food tastes so much better when you killed it.

[The Real JW]

Well your opinion is completely false. Animal flesh is not very good for you nor is it necessary; lots of carcinogens.

I don't know. It's worked pretty well so far for millions of years for creatures towards the top of the food chain, including and especially humans.

[longtime lurker]

**** dolphins

[Bandito]

Well your opinion is completely false. Animal flesh is not very good for you nor is it necessary; lots of carcinogens.
where would you get protein from? A f*cking tomato?

[rufuspaul]

where would you get protein from? A f*cking tomato?


Beans and rice make a complete protein.

[Bandito]

Beans and rice make a complete protein.
beans do not give you enough protein for a day. Unless you want to be a skinny man with any muscles like Hollywood actors then it's fine. But muscles need a lot of protein specially if you practice sports.

And since when has rice give you protein? Rice is know for the carbs and fiber it gives you (im a runner) but not protein.

[I<3NBA]

I just don't like the uppity Vegan's. The ones that judge you if you are not (Hipster Vegans).
But besides that I give vegans props....no way I could do that. And it is good for their health.
nop. pure veggies doesn't provide enough protein the body needs. and protein substitutes have been proven to be lacking.

a balanced diet is what we need. meat, fruits, veggies.

altho, when you think about it, it's kind of disgusting to eat a living thing, especially if you've read David Brin's uplift books where humans basically bioengineer animals to evolve them to sapiency. you're basically eating creatures that may have the capacity to think in the future.

i still love chicken tho. yumm.

[Bandito]

Well I don't like to eat meat either but it's not like I have a Choice.

[rufuspaul]

And since when has rice give you protein? Rice is know for the carbs and fiber it gives you (im a runner) but not protein.


Are you a troll or are you really this dumb?

[Bandito]

Are you a troll or are you really this dumb?
I never heard of nobody eating rice to get big muscles:lol Most people I know eait because it gives you a lot of energy for a marathon. I honestly didn't know...

[PistonsFan#21]

I never heard of nobody eating rice to get big muscles:lol Most people I know eait because it gives you a lot of energy for a marathon. I honestly didn't know...

Eating alot of protein doesnt equal having big muscles. With that said rice does have some proteins in it but a minimal amoint compared to what you would get in eggs or meat.

Also im not 100% confident but i think that rice doesnt contain the essential amino acids which means you cant just depend on rice to get your proteins and need to combine it with something else

[fiddy]

Beans and rice make a complete protein.

dude wtf??????? :roll::roll::roll::roll::roll::roll:

As a matter of fact 500 000 people in Asia go blind because of a diet based on high rice intake.

http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/cereal-grains-and-pasta/5712/2

[fiddy]

Also im not 100% confident but i think that rice doesnt contain the essential amino acids which means you cant just depend on rice to get your proteins and need to combine it with something else
Exactly. Brain health also depends on amino acids.

[MMM]

So we're all scum?

Yes

We could not care less about the millions of people that suffer and die as a results of our life style so why should we care about what we do to the animals and the rest of the planet.

[sunsfan1357]

Exactly. Brain health also depends on amino acids.
There's plenty of protein sources for vegetarians/vegans. Lentils, tofu, beans, there's even veggie protein powders out there. Only complaints I've seen from people is that a lot of their protein sources have a high number if carbs as well, which is apparently the devil.

[-p.tiddy-]

My woman is a vegetarian (not vegan), she will eat fish, seafood, and eggs, just not meat.

I can't do it myself but I do try to eat organic meat only if I can...that way I know the animals were out on a range and not tortured...it also has no steroids or hormones or other additives that are bad for you...and it also tastes so much better, it is very noticible actually

[MMM]

go out and kill your own meat stop relying on other to do the killing for you.

[The Real JW]

go out and grow/pick your own vegetables stop relying on other to do the farming for you.

[red1]

how f*cking dumb are you OP? seriously?

[ace23]

This reminds me of a little joke:
How can you tell if someone's vegan? Don't worry--THEY'LL ****ING TELL YOU.
:oldlol: This is true.

[tpols]

Was reading about the paleolithic diet that year other day..

http://www.earth360.com/diet_paleodiet_balzer.html

Basically we as a species over tens of thousands of years built our genes on..

Fish/meat
Root vegetables
Eggs
Fruits
Nuts

.. The most nutrient rich foods that are bodies are built to absorb.

Grains, sugars and potatoes basically any veggies that need to be cooked contain all types of evolutionary based toxins in them. That's why we cook them out. Meat has been part of our diet and is very important. The article actually gives the full detail of how certain foods developed to be eaten or not be eaten.

[MMM]

go out and grow/pick your own vegetables stop relying on other to do the farming for you.

that too

[Bandito]

Eating alot of protein doesnt equal having big muscles. With that said rice does have some proteins in it but a minimal amoint compared to what you would get in eggs or meat.

Also im not 100% confident but i think that rice doesnt contain the essential amino acids which means you cant just depend on rice to get your proteins and need to combine it with something else
Well of course you have to eat carbs and exercise a lot.

[Magic bird]

where would you get protein from? A f*cking tomato?
:roll: :roll:

[Hazard]

I tent to agree with OP when it comes to self righteous vegans who judge you for eating meat. Yes its true, growing their goat food requires the clearing out of 'pests' aka groundhogs, rabbits, and any other furry woodland creatures that likes to make a meal of the same food that they do. Also the destruction of natural habitats play's a role in growing food as well. Its hypocrisy at its best. However if someone chooses a vegan lifestyle for holistic reasons, then more power to em. Cant escape the fact that humans are destructive creatures, pacifism is a lie.

[RoboticWang]

http://youtu.be/63NNuG-6-hQ :rolleyes:

[niko]

My woman is a vegetarian (not vegan), she will eat fish, seafood, and eggs, just not meat.

I can't do it myself but I do try to eat organic meat only if I can...that way I know the animals were out on a range and not tortured...it also has no steroids or hormones or other additives that are bad for you...and it also tastes so much better, it is very noticible actually

Yep.

We went organic with the Milk and now with the Chicken. We are trying beef too but it's very expensive here. It tastes a lot different and you get used to it real quickly.

[nathanjizzle]

OP has good karma coming his way.

[-p.tiddy-]

Yep.

We went organic with the Milk and now with the Chicken. We are trying beef too but it's very expensive here. It tastes a lot different and you get used to it real quickly.
yeah, I think it pretty much doubles the price unfortunately

a good 1 lb. cut of organic streak is in the $15-$20 range...it is expensive

still cheaper than most overpriced steak houses though...

[DFish]

DeuceWallaces gets his daily protein in part from the application of semen to his skin. Not his own semen though. And nothing gay; he doesn't ingest it. Ever notice how radiantly pale and tender his skin appears? It's all from vegetables and jizz.

[GreatGreg]

Well your opinion is completely false. Animal flesh is not very good for you nor is it necessary; lots of carcinogens.
No, humans need protein in their diets, it's not even debatable. Tofu/Soy Beans/Whatever garbage Vegans eat isn't going to cut it.

And what the **** DOESN'T have carcinogens nowadays? ****ing hot showers increase your cancer risk...
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2011/01/25/2003494382

[Jailblazers7]

Yep.

We went organic with the Milk and now with the Chicken. We are trying beef too but it's very expensive here. It tastes a lot different and you get used to it real quickly.

My mind was blown the first time I had organic milk compared to the normal stuff. I couldnt believe how much better it tasted.

[irondarts]

Organic meat (especially beef) tastes sooo much better, it's incredible. I was shocked when I first tasted organic meat.

Reminds me of the King Of The Hill when Hank starts shopping and working at the co-op run by the hippies so he can continue to get organic meat and veggies. :oldlol: :oldlol:

[irondarts]

Also, it's really not hard at all for Vegans to get their required amount of protein. Vegans can get protein in a bunch of different foods, it's not hard at all.

It is, however, extremely hard to Vegans to get their Vitamin B12. They usually can only get their B12 from supplements or certain fortified foods.

If you guys don't think doing a vegan diet correctly isn't extremely healthy, you're foolish. It's an incredibly healthy diet if done right. It also can be an incredibly harmful diet if not done correctly and diligently.

[sunsfan1357]

Was reading about the paleolithic diet that year other day..

http://www.earth360.com/diet_paleodiet_balzer.html

Basically we as a species over tens of thousands of years built our genes on..

Fish/meat
Root vegetables
Eggs
Fruits
Nuts

.. The most nutrient rich foods that are bodies are built to absorb.

Grains, sugars and potatoes basically any veggies that need to be cooked contain all types of evolutionary based toxins in them. That's why we cook them out. Meat has been part of our diet and is very important. The article actually gives the full detail of how certain foods developed to be eaten or not be eaten.
These days paleo people are about as high and mighty as vegans/vegetarians are.

[ballup]

You can't completely stop yourself from exploiting animals for your own benefit, but you can absolutely try to reduce it to levels necessary for your survival in the modern world. I respect that. I don't respect someone who shoves their ideals into my face and tries to belittle my omnivorous lifestyle.

Humans, as far as we know, were not meant to eat meat. We have to cook it to safely eat it or risk becoming diseased. Religion can be the answer to this, i.e whether or not a god meant for us to cook meant, but that can go into its own separate debate.

The one thing I don't get is why they are against drinking animal based milk and eating animal cheese. It's not like the animals are cut up for those products.

[The Real JW]

Humans, as far as we know, were not meant to eat meat.

Sure we are. Early humans were hunters and gatherers. Not just gatherers.

Men hunted for meat, women gathered plants and nuts and shit.

[tpols]

These days paleo people are about as high and mighty as vegans/vegetarians are.
Eh.. Paleo is just about getting max beneficial nutrients into your body and eliminating toxins to promote the best health possible. It's not a social cause where vegans will be all high and mighty calling other people scumbags because they support animal slaughter and whatnot. Vegans have more elaborate motives for their lifestyle.

I don't even follow this totally but I try to get as much servings of good veggies and good fruits as possible. Too much work to cancel everything else out.

[ballup]

Sure we are. Early humans were hunters and gatherers. Not just gatherers.

Men hunted for meat, women gathered plants and nuts and shit.
Did you not read the next lines? If we were meant to be true omnivores, we would be able to eat meat raw.

[Hazard]

Did you not read the next lines? If we were meant to be true omnivores, we would be able to eat meat raw.
I know people who eat raw meat. Its not that uncommon. You can become conditioned to eat worms if that's what your survival requires.

[The Real JW]

If we were meant to be true omnivores, we would be able to eat meat raw.

Says who?

[ballup]

I know people who eat raw meat. Its not that uncommon. You can become conditioned to eat worms if that's what your survival requires.
That's the thing, you have to be conditioned for it instead of eating it naturally like all other carnivores do.

[DeuceWallaces]

No, humans need protein in their diets, it's not even debatable. Tofu/Soy Beans/Whatever garbage Vegans eat isn't going to cut it.

And what the **** DOESN'T have carcinogens nowadays? ****ing hot showers increase your cancer risk...
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2011/01/25/2003494382

Yeah, protein only comes from animal flesh; ****tard.

[ballup]

Says who?
Like I said, if we aren't factoring religion causes into this, our biological construction, that we have come to known, does not allow us to combat diseases originating from raw foods. When you get illnesses from eating raw meat, your body signals to your mind that eating raw meat is a bad idea.

This is not to say that humans were not able to eat raw meat at one point. There is a great possibility that was humans could process raw meat in the past.

[Hazard]

That's the thing, you have to be conditioned for it instead of eating it naturally like all other carnivores do.
Now I'm curious if you can condition a lion to eat broccoli.

The whole argument that humans aren't meant to do something falls apart with the fact that humans have done everything your mind can and cant comprehend. So basically we're meant to be complete abominations and defy every boundary that is placed upon us. That's why I think human beings as a race are simply the shit.

[ballup]

Now I'm curious if you can condition a lion to eat broccoli.
That's the nature vs nurture argument. Probably possible, not sure how well its lifestyle can adjust to it though.

[MMM]

I've known a few people who've tried to force their cats to be vegan, I find that to be cruel and unusual punishment for the cat.

[daily]

That's the thing, you have to be conditioned for it instead of eating it naturally like all other carnivores do.Raw meat is safe as long as you buy the proper raw meat. Any meat from a mass producer is going to be suspect, but the free range meats are safe to eat raw. All the bad things in raw meat come from they're living conditions, there's a sizable following of people in the US that live a "primal" lifestyle eating raw foods. You can find a decent amount of info on the subject.

Myself no way. Other than Sushi I want it cooked

[daily]

That's the nature vs nurture argument. Probably possible, not sure how well its lifestyle can adjust to it though.Growing up we had a cat that loved lettuce for some odd reason

[Big_Dogg]

If we weren't meant to eat animals, why do they taste so bloody good :D

Especially straight off the grill.

[GreatGreg]

Yeah, protein only comes from animal flesh; ****tard.
The acceptable amount does. Face it; the vegan diet ISN'T healthy.

[MMM]

The acceptable amount does. Face it; the vegan diet ISN'T healthy.

I've read that vegan's have similar mortality rates as meat eaters and that vegetarians or people who supplement their diets with meat are better off.

[rufuspaul]

dude wtf??????? :roll::roll::roll::roll::roll::roll:

As a matter of fact 500 000 people in Asia go blind because of a diet based on high rice intake.

http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/cereal-grains-and-pasta/5712/2


Jesus Christ learn to f*cking read you stupid f*ck! I said rice paired with a legume such as soy beans provides a complete protein, ie all the complements of amino acids the body needs. Look it up moron.

Now I'm not a vegan, far from it. But there's so much misinformation here.

http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.htm



Some Americans are obsessed with protein. Vegans are bombarded with questions about where they get their protein. Athletes used to eat thick steaks before competition because they thought it would improve their performance. Protein supplements are sold at health food stores. This concern about protein is misplaced. Although protein is certainly an essential nutrient which plays many key roles in the way our bodies function, we do not need huge quantities of it. In reality, we need small amounts of protein. Only one calorie out of every ten we take in needs to come from protein 1 (http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.htm#r1). Athletes do not need much more protein than the general public 2 (http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.htm#r2). Protein supplements are expensive, unnecessary, and even harmful for some people.
How much protein do we need? The RDA recommends that we take in 0.8 grams of protein for every kilogram that we weigh (or about 0.36 grams of protein per pound that we weigh) 1 (http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.htm#r1). This recommendation includes a generous safety factor for most people. When we make a few adjustments to account for some plant proteins being digested somewhat differently from animal proteins and for the amino acid mix in some plant proteins, we arrive at a level of 1 gram of protein per kilogram body weight (0.45 grams of protein per pound that we weigh). Since vegans eat a variety of plant protein sources, somewhere between 0.8 and 1 gram of protein per kilogram would be a protein recommendation for vegans. If we do a few calculations we see that the protein recommendation for vegans amounts to close to 10% of calories coming from protein. [For example, a 79 kg vegan male aged 25 to 50 years could have an estimated calorie requirement of 2900 calories per day. His protein needs might be as high as 79 kg x 1 gram/kg = 79 grams of protein. 79 grams of protein x 4 calories/gram of protein = 316 calories from protein per day. 316 calories from protein divided by 2900 calories = 10.1% of calories from protein.] If we look at what vegans are eating, we find that between 10-12% of calories come from protein 3 (http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.htm#r3). This contrasts with the protein intake of non-vegetarians, which is close to 14-18% of calories.
So, in the United States it appears that vegan diets are commonly lower in protein than standard American diets. Remember, though, with protein, more (than the RDA) is not necessarily better. There do not appear to be health advantages to consuming a high protein diet. Diets that are high in protein may even increase the risk of osteoporosis 4 (http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.htm#r4) and kidney disease 5 (http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.htm#r5).

[timlush]

The one thing I don't get is why they are against drinking animal based milk and eating animal cheese. It's not like the animals are cut up for those products.

Besides humans, what other species drink the milk from a different species? And what other species drink any milk past infancy?

I do not drink any animal based milk directly but I do still eat cheese on occasion, but I would guess some people may also be against these things because, although the animals aren't killed, they may still be treated poorly.

[GatorKid117]

Vegans get a bad rap because of the outspoken, I'm better than you talk, minority which is sad. I commend people who do it though. As others have alluded to, it is healthy, as long as you keep up with what your eating. Your potential complete lack of essential nutrients is a very real possibility if you are not aware of it.

Completely random, I happen to find a large majority of vegetarian girls I meet to be very fat. I find it amusing.

[brantonli]

Besides humans, what other species drink the milk from a different species? And what other species drink any milk past infancy?

I do not drink any animal based milk directly but I do still eat cheese on occasion, but I would guess some people may also be against these things because, although the animals aren't killed, they may still be treated poorly.

Let's be honest here, drinking the milk of a different species isn't the weirdest thing humans do to food.

[millwad]

Jesus Christ learn to f*cking read you stupid f*ck! I said rice paired with a legume such as soy beans provides a complete protein, ie all the complements of amino acids the body needs. Look it up moron.

Now I'm not a vegan, far from it. But there's so much misinformation here.

http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.htm

Great post, Rufus.

People are beyond ignorant. I've been a vegetarian for 5 years now and I lost the count regarding stupid questions after one week and nowadays I don't really tell people that I'm a vegetarian because it gets too annoying to answer the same stupid questions etc..

And spot on about soy beans, I even got in better shape after becoming a vegetarian and I played in the swedish basketball league as a vegetarian and I had zero problems. Although being a vegan in something I wouldn't be able to do but vegans who eat what they're supposed to eat are healthy.

And finally, I find it hilarious how meat-eaters are so ignorant when it comes to people who skip meat a la "they don't eat the right things", "they eat no food with proteins" etc., but at the same time we live in the era with the most obese people and people overall are overconsuming food and meat like never before..

[rufuspaul]

Completely random, I happen to find a large majority of vegetarian girls I meet to be very fat. I find it amusing.


Ah yes, the starchitarians. They don't eat meat but down french fries and cake.

[fiddy]

Jesus Christ learn to f*cking read you stupid f*ck! I said rice paired with a legume such as soy beans provides a complete protein, ie all the complements of amino acids the body needs. Look it up moron.



http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.htm
:roll: :roll: Extremely credible source. And Soy? NO ****ING THANKS!

Bottom line every person is absolutely invididual. Being vegetarian is totally senseless IMO.


I cant stop laughing at people that caring about animals being killed. :facepalm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inFtOMx8nDU

[rufuspaul]

And Soy? NO ****ING THANKS!



You've never had edemame? Miso?

[hookul]

:roll: :roll: Extremely credible source. And Soy? NO ****ING THANKS!

Bottom line every person is absolutely invididual. Being vegetarian is totally senseless IMO.


I cant stop laughing at people that caring about animals being killed. :facepalm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inFtOMx8nDU


Is this is meant as a general statement you are quite a piece of garbage - as a human being.

[fiddy]

Is this is meant as a general statement you are quite a piece of garbage - as a human being.
:durantunimpressed:



You've never had edemame? Miso?

Nope. Its common knoledge among the body bulding communities that protein that comes plants is harder to be extracted/abosrbed by the body.





There are two forms of isoflavones in plant foods: those bonded with the sugar glycone and those without glycone. Isoflavones without glycone may have the greatest estrogenic effects, according to New York University. Neither form of isoflavones appears to raise estrogen levels above normal in men because they are prone to bond with the estrogen receptor sites in cells when estrogen levels are low, and they block estrogen cell receptors when there is already an adequate amount of estrogen in your body.

...

One fear men have with regards to consuming soy-based phytoestrogen is that it could affect testosterone levels and make it difficult to achieve an erection. Columbia University states that the regulation of estrogen levels performed by soy isoflavones likely prevents this from happening. However, a 2011 case study appearing in "Nutrition" outlines the treatment of a 19-year-old vegan male who had low levels of testosterone and a loss of libido. The subject discontinued his vegan diet and experienced an initial drop in testosterone levels, but his hormones and libido normalized after one year of remaining off of the vegan diet.


http://www.livestrong.com/article/519107-soy-estrogen-in-men/

Btw cholestorol is also very important in small quantinties. Where do you get that from?

[rufuspaul]

Nope. Its common knoledge among the body bulding communities that protein that comes plants is harder to be extracted/abosrbed by the body.

:roll:

Now I see where your brain is at. So you won't eat at a Japanese restaurant? Edemame and miso are delicious as well as being good sources of protein.



Btw cholestorol is also very important in small quantinties. Where do you get that from?


Dumbass, I eat meat. I also eat a lot of fruits, vegetables, grains, etc. But you should just follow what's being said on the bodybuilding forums. Have fun getting that angioplasty at 40.

[fiddy]

:roll:

Edemame and miso are delicious as well as being good sources of protein.


I dont deny it. The reason i wont eat at japanese/chinese restaurants is the abuse of MSG. And also this: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=268_1355287490
Also this kind restaurants arent very common where i live.

Btw people around the bb communities know more about nutriotion than the vegan ****. I have never eat like a bodybuilder or train like one. I like keeping fit. Thats all.

I know one thing 100% for sure being a vegan is not healthy. Not sure about the vegetarians, but they should be able to get most of what they need from eggs.

About cholesterol.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/105425-cholesterol-important-health/

http://www.cholesterol-tests.com/What_Is_Cholesterol.html

[ballup]

You've never had edemame? Miso?
That stuff is good. They are like the wet version of peanuts.

Although I eat plenty of meat, soy is great alternative I like to have every so often.

[MMM]

Did you not read the next lines? If we were meant to be true omnivores, we would be able to eat meat raw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvUDTdaNGfA

[RoboticWang]

http://i.imgur.com/SgflSDN.jpg

http://www.ociomaldito.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/comida-montreal-600x450.jpg

http://banana.by/uploads/posts/2012-05/1337097172_food_porn_4.jpg

[CelticBaller]

http://i.imgur.com/SgflSDN.jpg
yummy

[SilkkTheShocker]

Studies show most vegans come from abusive households.

[Borat]

I dont care what people eat.

But OP has somewhat of a point, the hipster vegans have no idea of what went into the house they sleep in or the sunglasses they wear, they are just hypocritical b!tches.
Their vegan tendancies are just one part of their hypocritical nature, many are all about acceptance and equality - unless you disagree with them, then you deserve to die.

and lets be real, who would you rather be in a trench with, a vegan or a meat eater?

:pimp:

meh jk

[Ol Dirty Bastard]

This reminds me of a little joke:
How can you tell if someone's vegan? Don't worry--THEY'LL ****ING TELL YOU.

:applause:
This is my ****ing coworker right here.
First day this bitch started he complained because we ordered a pizza in "celebration" for him.

Bitch looked at the pepperoni made a face and was like "Guys, Guys I'm a vegan" and continued to tell us his life story of how he found vegan jesus and goes to all these ****ing vegan hipster spots in town with his hairy hippe girlfriend (beotch has no ass, shit goes from back to mid thigh)

Later that day my boss said "**** that guy"

[yobore]

I've seen studies that say vegetarians have the highest life expectancy but vegans are the least healthy option.

[Wavves]

**** I love me some meat and some eggs.

[gigantes]

thread starter is an 18-yr old moron, granted.
anything interesting happening in this thread at the current time?

[hateraid]

I dont deny it. The reason i wont eat at japanese/chinese restaurants is the abuse of MSG. And also this: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=268_1355287490
Also this kind restaurants arent very common where i live.

Btw people around the bb communities know more about nutriotion than the vegan ****. I have never eat like a bodybuilder or train like one. I like keeping fit. Thats all.

I know one thing 100% for sure being a vegan is not healthy. Not sure about the vegetarians, but they should be able to get most of what they need from eggs.

About cholesterol.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/105425-cholesterol-important-health/

http://www.cholesterol-tests.com/What_Is_Cholesterol.html

Sorry to break it to you but both communities can be very ignorant when it comes to information about protein.

[IcanzIIravor]

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/gallery/data/1/vegan-support-group-small.jpg

I'm indifferent too the topic, but always loved this. :D

[nathanjizzle]

:banana:

[JerryWest]

:banana:

[RoboticWang]

thread starter is an 18-yr old moron, granted.
anything interesting happening in this thread at the current time?
Don't you feel bad about all of the plant life you have to destroy to sate your self-righteous diet?

[ace23]

Was going to say "RIP Kenny Clutch. I thought that was why this was bumped when I saw it."

Then I realized that the title said "F uck vegans".

[AlphaWolf24]

Kind of torn on eating meat.

- on 1 hand , humans don't need to eat meat in order to survive....we can grow plenty of food and access plenty of other animal protien to live.Yet we still do eat alot of meat

- on the other hand...it has to be beneficial to us as a species ( in some way)...did it help our Brains develop?....does it help our immune sytsem?....

we atapted and evolved to the top of the food chain by eating meat....we our the smartest animal in the Jungle....and most of us eat meat.

- I wish I didn't crave eating cows and chickens...and especially Pigs...(watch a video of a Pig getting Butchered....sounds just like little kids screaming)

[timlush]

Not vegan, but haven't eaten meat since the first week of January and it feels pretty great so far, physically and mentally.

[LikeABosh]

90% of the vegans i know are blowhards. I had some guys over for a bbq and a buddy brought along his friend who is vegan. He whined the whole ****ing time about the lack of vegans options. Like it's some kind of goddamn restaurant

[shortsoptional]

I wonder if some of the vegans/vegetarians that some of you meet are just really young college students or something.

My wife is vegetarian (I am not), and she is always aware that when we go places, she might not have a lot of options available. So we plan ahead and bring her some stuff just in case. And she never brings it up that she's a vegetarian because then she has to go on the defensive for an hour about why she is vegetarian and how, yes, she can get more than enough protein on a vegetarian diet.

[miller-time]

I've seen studies that say vegetarians have the highest life expectancy but vegans are the least healthy option.

There could be other factors though. Most if not all of the vegetarians I know have healthy lifestyles in general. Little to no alcohol, plenty of water, at least some regular exercise, no smoking, and little to no junk food.

[RoseCity07]

This reminds me of the grinds my gears segment Peter Griffin does in Family Guy.:applause:

[maybeshewill13]

90% of the vegans i know are blowhards. I had some guys over for a bbq and a buddy brought along his friend who is vegan. He whined the whole ****ing time about the lack of vegans options. Like it's some kind of goddamn restaurant

I'm a vegetarian. If you go to a BBQ with a different eating style it's your own responsibility to supply the vege burgers or whatever you want.. though some hosts go the extra mile sometimes and think of that kind of stuff. That guy was just a dick.

[Take Your Lumps]

I doubt I could ever become a vegetarian...I love meat a little too much.

But I've switched over to local grass-fed beef and free-range meat/eggs because they way we raise animals in this country really is disgusting no matter what your eating preferences may be.

Support your local farmers.

[rufuspaul]

90% of the vegans i know are blowhards. I had some guys over for a bbq and a buddy brought along his friend who is vegan. He whined the whole ****ing time about the lack of vegans options. Like it's some kind of goddamn restaurant



When my niece got married a few years back we hosted the rehearsal dinner at my house. Since most of the guests were from up north we treated everyone to Carolina barbecue. It was a big hit with everyone except this one chick who was a vegetarian (unbeknownst to us beforehand). She spent the entire night bitching about how there was nothing for her to eat. For dessert we had red velvet cake (another southern thing) and this beyotch ate like half of it. Later she asked me what made the cake red. My response: pig's blood.

[D-Rose]

When my niece got married a few years back we hosted the rehearsal dinner at my house. Since most of the guests were from up north we treated everyone to Carolina barbecue. It was a big hit with everyone except this one chick who was a vegetarian (unbeknownst to us beforehand). She spent the entire night bitching about how there was nothing for her to eat. For dessert we had red velvet cake (another southern thing) and this beyotch ate like half of it. Later she asked me what made the cake red. My response: pig's blood.
you had me at red velvet cake

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Segatti]

http://demotivationalblog.com/demotivational/2009/03/animal-right-animals-have-the-right-to-be-tasty.jpg

[Ne 1]

There's nothing I hate more than ignorant vegans who try and skew facts to their agenda.

I've known a few intelligent people who are vegans for their own, well educated reasons, but they're sure as hell not going to fabricate complete bullshit to try and convince others to become vegans.

A well balanced diet is the healthiest for a human, but you can get away with vegetarianism or even a vegan diet, it's just VERY hard to get all your nutrients from a full vegan diet. My good vegan friend takes a ton of supplements in order to stay healthy.

Anyone who says "a vegetarian/vegan diet is healthier than meat eater" is a complete moron who is using the average American fast food consumer as his omnivore example. Meanwhile I could give an example of the super unhealthy vegans I know who eat garbage all day and can't lift a paperclip.

In fact, there's actually no scientific evidence that a balanced vegan diet is superior in terms of health benefits in comparison to a balaced omnivore diet. People who decide to stop eating meat + dairy generally feel better because they had a shit diet before, and laying off daily intakes of milkshakes and bacon cheeseburgers usually makes you feel better... doesn't matter if you switch it for broccoli and tofu or baked salmon and broiled turkey breast.

[joe]

I had a friend who became vegan for a little while. Dude became pale as hell and was sick all the time. I truly believe that veganism is unhealthy, but if you think/know that it's not, and it works for you, do it up.

[Eat Like A Bosh]

There's nothing I hate more than ignorant vegans who try and skew facts to their agenda.

I've known a few intelligent people who are vegans for their own, well educated reasons, but they're sure as hell not going to fabricate complete bullshit to try and convince others to become vegans.

A well balanced diet is the healthiest for a human, but you can get away with vegetarianism or even a vegan diet, it's just VERY hard to get all your nutrients from a full vegan diet. My good vegan friend takes a ton of supplements in order to stay healthy.

Anyone who says "a vegetarian/vegan diet is healthier than meat eater" is a complete moron who is using the average American fast food consumer as his omnivore example. Meanwhile I could give an example of the super unhealthy vegans I know who eat garbage all day and can't lift a paperclip.

In fact, there's actually no scientific evidence that a balanced vegan diet is superior in terms of health benefits in comparison to a balaced omnivore diet. People who decide to stop eating meat + dairy generally feel better because they had a shit diet before, and laying off daily intakes of milkshakes and bacon cheeseburgers usually makes you feel better... doesn't matter if you switch it for broccoli and tofu or baked salmon and broiled turkey breast.
This. Meat isn't bad for you. Truth is everything is good in moderation. Humans are naturally Omnivores anyways, it makes no sense to alter our diets just to "stop killing animals".

[Jasi]

When my niece got married a few years back we hosted the rehearsal dinner at my house. Since most of the guests were from up north we treated everyone to Carolina barbecue. It was a big hit with everyone except this one chick who was a vegetarian (unbeknownst to us beforehand). She spent the entire night bitching about how there was nothing for her to eat. For dessert we had red velvet cake (another southern thing) and this beyotch ate like half of it. Later she asked me what made the cake red. My response: pig's blood.

:lol

[nathanjizzle]

"boohoo, its so hard to eat meat" " i eat meat, and the hormones that go into it thats why i have to make a thread that insults vegans"

get the **** outta here you low iq imbred ******. id like to see you in person to slap the shitt out of your weeny ass face.

[nathanjizzle]

"oh, i have a cat or dog i love so much, i would take a bullet for him, but heres a steak im eating that came from a cow that was forced into a machine that cut his head off and hung him upside down"

[Loneshot]

http://demotivationalblog.com/demotivational/2009/03/animal-right-animals-have-the-right-to-be-tasty.jpg
:roll:

[nathanjizzle]

http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/090/Graph/chicken_rows_small.jpg

[nathanjizzle]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/--xavUFNxmqs/T-CSNVU_NdI/AAAAAAAAAQk/sT0U7f144k0/s1600/abusedDOG+3.jpg

[nathanjizzle]

http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4839574341158582&pid=15.1

[nathanjizzle]

http://pinkdogink.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/piglets.jpg
http://www.4us2be.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Cow-Cruelty-3.jpg

[nathanjizzle]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_WZBfZkjcsLM/TTADZp39MqI/AAAAAAAAAHo/RcaaXvRJtg0/s1600/cow-slaughter-kosher%5B1%5D.jpg

[nathanjizzle]

http://advocacy.britannica.com/blog/advocacy/wp-content/uploads/carriage-horses-4.jpg

[LT Ice Cream]

This. Meat isn't bad for you. Truth is everything is good in moderation. Humans are naturally Omnivores anyways, it makes no sense to alter our diets just to "stop killing animals".

I've altered my diet cuz I don't agree with the way our animals are harvested in factory farms.

But yeah, it's hard to completely stay away from meat. I just try to eat way less or eat organic.

[nathanjizzle]

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/the_daily_dish/images/2007/03/14/pigs.jpg

[nathanjizzle]

yea seriously guys, **** vegans and vegetarians, who do they think they are?

[fiddy]

http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/090/Graph/chicken_rows_small.jpg
Future chicken nugets.

[Loneshot]

I went vegan for a week...it was expensive. Much easier to be a vegetarian. The week did show me that its not necessary to consume as much animal products as most are use to. My body did feel better not having meat every day, let alone every other day.

I will never understand the logic of fighting for animals being treated better before we kill them. Would you feel better about death if you got to die comfortably? Probably, but for things you plan to eat it just sounds odd that you want your to eat your meal knowing it got to your plate in peace.

[millwad]

"oh, i have a cat or dog i love so much, i would take a bullet for him, but heres a steak im eating that came from a cow that was forced into a machine that cut his head off and hung him upside down"

That is so true, my facebook is full of BS like that.
Idiots posting pictures of baby seals being clubbed, cats in cages and dogs being slaughtered while freaking out over it. Then you ask them, "what's the difference between that cat and a cow?" and they go silent.

I've been a vegetarian for 5 years, I have never pushed my agenda or my beliefs about vegetarianism on anyone, not even my girlfriend. And I don't really care what people think about vegetarians or about animal rights because people simply don't care. But people who pretend to care or actually care as long as it comes to "cute" animals are true idiots and they piss me off.

[shlver]

Some nutrients(B12, iron, etc) from meat are necessary for early childhood(brain and muscle development), if you do want to have your child on a vegan diet then you have to monitor his or her diet closely and refer to a doctor for guidance on a balanced vegan diet with supplements.

[mrpuente]

I went vegan for a week...it was expensive. Much easier to be a vegetarian. The week did show me that its not necessary to consume as much animal products as most are use to. My body did feel better not having meat every day, let alone every other day.

I will never understand the logic of fighting for animals being treated better before we kill them. Would you feel better about death if you got to die comfortably? Probably, but for things you plan to eat it just sounds odd that you want your to eat your meal knowing it got to your plate in peace.
Exactly I dont think it makes anymore sense if the animal dies in a humane way. The animal still doesnt want to die for you.

With that said I love eating meat.

[shlver]

Exactly I dont think it makes anymore sense if the animal dies in a humane way. The animal still doesnt want to die for you.

With that said I love eating meat.
The problem is where's the line between necessary and unnecessary suffering.

[mrpuente]

That is so true, my facebook is full of BS like that.
Idiots posting pictures of baby seals being clubbed, cats in cages and dogs being slaughtered while freaking out over it. Then you ask them, "what's the difference between that cat and a cow?" and they go silent.

I've been a vegetarian for 5 years, I have never pushed my agenda or my beliefs about vegetarianism on anyone, not even my girlfriend. And I don't really care what people think about vegetarians or about animal rights because people simply don't care. But people who pretend to care or actually care as long as it comes to "cute" animals are true idiots and they piss me off.
Yup, i've argued this as well here on Ish, about Michael Vick. Their excuse is dogs and cats are smarter and are our pets. Mans best friend blah blah blah.

[mrpuente]

The problem is where's the line between necessary and unnecessary suffering.
Technically its all unnecessary. The ultimate conclusion is that the animal dies.

Im no vegetarian.

[MMM]

Technically its all unnecessary. The ultimate conclusion is that the animal dies.

Im no vegetarian.

forgive my ignorance but how effective is your body in absorbing nutrients from supplements compared to a balance diet???

[Bandito]

Something tell me that most of the vegans or vegetarians that felt better after they stopped eating meat are those that ate MCdonalds or other fast food every day:roll:

[steve franchise]

I'll just post this here. :cheers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3a80T7hRfLI



4:47 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv8d_ry-u-Q

[mrpuente]

forgive my ignorance but how effective is your body in absorbing nutrients from supplements compared to a balance diet???
no clue man

[mrpuente]

I'll just post this here. :cheers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3a80T7hRfLI



4:47 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv8d_ry-u-Q
:oldlol:

an honest man like myself about the idea