Official Uncomfortable Truths Thread

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Write in here certain unleasant epiphanies you've had about society, human nature, life, death, the cosmos etc. etc.

And make 'em obscure.

[rufuspaul]

Italian clothes only look good on Italian men.

[blablabla]

nobody cares

[miller-time]

You should probably start to get the ball rolling man.

[MetsPackers]

Life sucks, then you die

[rufuspaul]

AI wasn't really the answer.

[DonDadda59]

People are only as loyal as circumstance allows them to be.

[Faptastrophe]

Girls Poop :(

[alenleomessi]

i have killed and molested many cats and dogs in my early teen years

[rufuspaul]

Girls Poop :(

:oldlol:

And they bleed once a month.

[blablabla]

:oldlol:

And they bleed once a month.
sometimes more
depends on their behavior

[kNIOKAS]

nobody cares
This very much. So hard to get a frigging reply with an application email.


The school system, where you're just bothered to get good grades (or learn), and nobody is giving you shit about anything else. Naturally after graduation you expect to be treated the same way outside the institution, in the real life. But then you find out that you have to really try getting even the shittiest job and that you are not presenting yourself in the right way for it (too proud and amibitious?). At that time the guy that didn't go with you, that doesn't have any diploma and that is barely literate is making a fair money.

So you just have to go up from the bottom, just trying to have what he is having... Along that path you find out that nobody wants a guy with a work ethic, everybody wants a loser with the licence for a forklift driver. Nobody wants a guy that is ready to do something (but no idea what that is), and to get the lowest chain job you have to show commitment as you were to work it for the rest of your life. Have to really close yourself of having options, it seems.

That's pretty much my story. It's hard to start from the bottom, because I have never been in the bottom, socioeconomically, and this just sucks. I feel I am entitled to so much more, just because I didn't take the way out early and I thought I was getting prepared to do things in the future, not just work all my life in a monotonous way. It's crazy... The reward system in the real world is just crazy... You cannot take the cherries anymore, you have to really go and get them, I guess.

[red1]

It is human nature to judge people according to how they can benefit us and we rationalize our view of them to fit this reality.

[CeltsGarlic]

blablabla going hard in this thread. I love it.

[miller-time]

It is human nature to judge people according to how they can benefit us and we rationalize our view of them to fit this reality.

Expand please.

[CeltsGarlic]

I sometimes/always try to watch at things positively because the if I did the other way I would go crazy in a month.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

The only reason flowers are considered romantic gestures are because ancestors used to chomp down on them to get hardons

Ring Ariund the rosy is a dark song connected with the bubonic plague.

There Are literally thousands times as many parasites as there are humans.

No good deed goes unpunished has truth in it.

Often times kids resent their parents and wives resent their husbands despite the latter often giving everything and going above and beyond in their duties .

No matter how glorious u paint ur beloved deceaseds legacies, there will be naysayers.

No matter how much wisdom you've accumulated, how much real life experience you've wracked up, how much fantastic advice you've given, child will probably hold a friends words heavier than yours.

Infants are selfish destructive violent creatures lo

Stress is something that really adds on to the Shen it rains it pours principle

The few people who believe in unconditional love and restrain their anger on the in corny and do not seek power will either be corrupted or taken advantage of inI opportune time

You won't ever get a glimpse of the night sky quite like a bunch of primitive tribes in the middle of nowhere will.


Dolphins rape and hippos kill so much for cuties

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Girls Poop :(

You're lucky u didn't Fukkin live with them during college. Taking a dump isn't as bad as the Seeing te interior of how some slob brawds live

[Fallguy20]

Men stumble over the truth from time to time, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing happened.


It sometimes is too late to be what you might have been.


Hope is a dangerous thing.


We often are comfortable with a certain level of drama in our life. If we don't have enough, we will create it ourselves.


Women will only ask out men they think have real potential, but they will say yes to marriage to one such man they wouldn't consider asking out.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

nobody cares

No man. Real friends and good parents do.and if you've got status and something they want they'll care. So go in and find something they want!!!

Never give up on friendship man. Ever! They come from all walks of life! I remember some fukker saying I had died in the OTC and even as a random person people expressed their sympathies. Humanity may act in self interest 90 percent of the time but we still want others to be happy and successful by default... Just in virtue of bein a human! :)

[CeltsGarlic]

no church in the wild.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Life sucks, then you die

If it sucks then surely death is a relief! And if death is terrible that must mean life us good! So many places to see people to meet basketball games to watch foods to eat things to learn music to listen to isn't it grand.

Fg20 absolutely right about the drama part.. Humans require emotional conflicts to progress that's exactly the reason why Kristen Stewart cheated on the vampire wanker guy!

The too law part us something j refuse to believe! No bit with anti aging mess out there u can be whateva I wanna be snd do can u!!

[red1]

Expand please.
It is human nature to judge people according to how they can benefit us and we rationalize our view of them to fit this reality.

If everything else is equal, people that we deem to be of high value are automatically given the benefit of the doubt whereas we are quicker to write off someone who is judged to be of lower value. Say we are comparing a homeless guy who can't catch a break and is caught in a vicious cycle of heroin addiction to a wealthy and succesful guy you know who is an executive of a big company. If you see the exact same negative trait in either guy you will be quicker to rationalize it away for your corporate homie.

We automatically judge people based on their value and our natural tendency is to assume that the succesful guy inherently has more positive traits than the homeless guy. Thats just the way it is. The human mind works to spot patterns and one pattern is that success = good traits.

[Faptastrophe]

You're lucky u didn't Fukkin live with them during college. Taking a dump isn't as bad as the Seeing te interior of how some slob brawds live
Actually I did.. that's how I found out. You're such a bassturd for reminding me this.

Can we move on? It's not easy to talk about this..

[Magic bird]

Friday - Rebecca Black is actually about JFK's assasination

[-p.tiddy-]

true freedom in this world can only be obtained through extreme wealth :(

[Faptastrophe]

true freedom in this world can only be obtained through extreme wealth :(
Also when you stop giving a ****.

[-p.tiddy-]

Also when you stop giving a ****.
:no:

bums are slaves...they still have to find a way to get money for food everyday

only the extreme wealthy can wake up in the morning and do whatever they want...go where ever they want in the world...sleep when they want...eat whatever they want...etc etc etc

they are "free"...the rest of us are slaves to the dollar

[kNIOKAS]

:no:

bums are slaves...they still have to find a way to get money for food everyday

only the extreme wealthy can wake up in the morning and do whatever they want...go where ever they want in the world...sleep when they want...eat whatever they want...etc etc etc

they are "free"...the rest of us are slaves to the dollar
Actually the concept of freedom is something to debate and you may have long discussions on what exactly is it. Not a thing to be simplified, for real.

[MMM]

true freedom in this world can only be obtained through extreme wealth :(

or if you don't rely on "wealth". The freest people I've met have had nothing.

[-p.tiddy-]

Actually the concept of freedom is something to debate and you may have long discussions on what exactly is it. Not a thing to be simplified, for real.

yeah

I can see those claim that poor people can be "free" are just speaking of mental freedom

I am talking about actual freedom...to go anywhere, and do anything

[MMM]

:no:

bums are slaves...they still have to find a way to get money for food everyday

only the extreme wealthy can wake up in the morning and do whatever they want...go where ever they want in the world...sleep when they want...eat whatever they want...etc etc etc

they are "free"...the rest of us are slaves to the dollar

There are a few remote places where money does not even exist and the people can go where they want, sleep when they want, etc.

[-p.tiddy-]

There are a few remote places where money does not even exist and the people can go where they want, sleep when they want, etc.
they can go anywhere in the world they want to without money?

[MMM]

they can go anywhere in the world they want to without money?

Yea, i realize after that you were speaking in a broader sense. What I mean was they could wake up when they want and they didn't have a set routine. Yea your right that they couldn't wake up one day and just go around the world. However, the rich are somewhat limited in going anywhere as well, yes they might have the means but the places wouldn't exactly be desirable for them. While the poor I'm speaking of wouldn't have the desire to leave the world they've created for them selves.

[kNIOKAS]

they can go anywhere in the world they want to without money?
There's thing called Paradox of Choice, and basically it boils down to the position where the guy in a "slave-ish" position is actually free in a sense, because he doesn't have to choose shit and make decisions [that essentially is the compromising and therefore not being able to do what you want]. So it's like the less freedom [as you describe it] you have = the more free you feel.

[Clifton]

Here's one: Moral truths are objective and apply equally to everyone and are based in the science and reason that everyone bullshittingly uses to try to debunk them. And if you go against them you'll suffer. I don't mean in hell, but in the mirror. And maybe hell, too, that's still never been debunked or even convincingly argued against.

Also, this is a good occasion to refer you all to my favorite living writer, David Wong. (http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-harsh-truths-that-will-make-you-better-person/)


Men stumble over the truth from time to time, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing happened.
I really like this one. Did you get it from somewhere?

[Clifton]

Here's another one that took about 4 years to break through to me because of how unlikable was everyone who I saw uttering it: You can't argue for abortion. It's killing innocent human beings for the sake of personal convenience. Period. And it's legal and encouraged in this country. Your tax dollars pay the people who do it. And you don't care.

It doesn't get more uncomfortable than that.

[Just2McFly]

no church in the wild.
:rockon:

Let's ride out on that note.

[kNIOKAS]

Here's another one that took about 4 years to break through to me because of how unlikable was everyone who I saw uttering it: You can't argue for abortion. It's killing innocent human beings for the sake of personal convenience. Period. And it's legal and encouraged in this country. Your tax dollars pay the people who do it. And you don't care.

It doesn't get more uncomfortable than that.
But you have to agree that there are instances where abortion is absolutely neccessary and not doing it results in tragic things.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

Also when you stop giving a ****.

Yeah.. you can SEVERELY become freer just by switching up your mentality.

That book "How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World" helps heaps.

Want freedom from everyday anxiety keeping you chained to your comfort zone? Lean towards it, understand that there are worse feelings like the feeling of regret, and plow forward.

Want freedom from everyday bullies and sh!tty habits? Learn a Martial Art and instill that discipline through everyday life?

Want freedom from a bad temper? Undergo meditatition

Want freedom from the 9-5 rat race? Live a minimalist lifestyle and put extra "happiness"emphasis on experiences and knowledgeable and intangible things?

And so on and so forth.

Pretty sure if you analyze two people with the same materials and possessions etc. the person who is happier and more successful has an entirely different biochemistry. Like if one had a run-down sh!tty car for example.. the unsuccessful one/ensalved one would probably grimace in shame and say "UMM, I'm saving up for a McLaren some day, this is just temporary" while the freer one would just own up to it, unapologetically with no qualm. And you know what, most people don't really care. It's the sense of shame which immediately lowers ones value.

That's the jist of a lot of self-help books. Loops and thought processes. A lot of people have suffered abuse in the past as well. The strong learn lessons and inherently have a twisted sense of gratitutde towards it. The weak let that sh!t prevent them from chasing what it is they're after.


Good to see Clifton stop by. Philosophizaz always welcome round this joint.

[ace23]

White America never fully compensated for their treatment of blacks and Native Americans in the 15-1900s.

Every human act is selfish.

Gay "marriage" does not exist.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

There is a limited amount of success and happiness to go around in the world. Some people are just born at a disadvantage and there is no way for them to overcome it. You just have to do your best to make sure you aren't one of the unfortunate.

Don't think there's a limited amount of happiness.

Very scarcity mentality having idea.

What if success to you was living true to your ideals? Or having the strongest grasp of knowledge on Ariana Grande there ever was?

It seems kinda iffy to put concrete limitations on the abstract brah.

[ace23]

Here's another one that took about 4 years to break through to me because of how unlikable was everyone who I saw uttering it: You can't argue for abortion. It's killing innocent human beings for the sake of personal convenience. Period. And it's legal and encouraged in this country. Your tax dollars pay the people who do it. And you don't care.

It doesn't get more uncomfortable than that.
Lol @ this guy

[MMM]

White America never fully compensated for their treatment of blacks and Native Americans in the 15-1900s.

Every human act is selfish.

Gay "marriage" does not exist.

I'm not white but each race has wrong another at one time or another during human history, so how can we compensate others for acts committed when we were not born?

Also I don't understand by what you mean when you say gay marriage does not exist, can you expand on that???

[Dictator]

You can never die if you are already dead.

[Myth]

Our dads f*cked our moms.

[gigantes]

Write in here certain unleasant epiphanies you've had about society, human nature, life, death, the cosmos etc. etc.

And make 'em obscure.
the buddhists had all of this figured out thousands of years before you, as likely a certain few did in every intelligent society in every world in all the universes that existed parallel to or before ours.


life is transitory, flawed, and never lasts the way that we think it will. everything that we consider 'here' and 'now' and 'advanced' and 'solid' is destined for the scrap-heap sooner that you can say the name "bob roberts."


everything about our lives will be gone, forgotten and decayed in a few generations at most. and that's being extremely generous.


the DNA that you pass to your kids? the tombstones of your grandparents and ancestors? they're nothing but fading substances primarily designed to make us feel better about the here and now, mostly because we're some of the most insecure human beings in all of life and earth history... a problem that gets only worse based on the way that we keep bullshitting ourselves about reality and keep disconnecting with our sense of real spirit. (lol christianity and western religion)


nothing that any human has EVER done is remembered past the absolutely most brilliant people that briefly existed a very short while ago (i.e. around 2,000 - 3,000 years at most), and pretty much the only crap that we remember from such assholes (like archimedes, yulius kaesar and joshua josephson) is the most brilliant of all their ideas. and why? for one or two reasons only-- so that we can use them as stepping-stones for thought and technology. that and little more, in actual practice.


without the ability to transport ourselves back in time and commune with our past generations, the past will never be any more than debris... debris with a few aspects of brilliance and interest poking up here and there. and so dearly beloved, welcome to conscientiousness. :D


you are a fool, jefferson money. you are a fool as you've always been and always will be. but then, you come from a race of self-important fools, so it's to be expected. but then again, being a fool is the only real way to play the game, for those of us idiots who understand what an errand it actually is.


well, you did ask.

[L.Kizzle]

Our dads f*cked our moms.
It's only uncomfortable if your dad is a deadbeat.

You like "mama, you fcked this nigha!"

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

thanks for the lecture gigantes now it's up to you to re-motivate our downtrodden spirits and bruised egos.

[Myth]

It's only uncomfortable if your dad is a deadbeat.

You like "mama, you fcked this nigha!"

It is not uncomfortable for you to think that you were made because your dad's dick was in your mom's puss?

[L.Kizzle]

It is not uncomfortable for you to think that you were made because your dad's dick was in your mom's puss?
Naw, it's more uncomfortable to me that I actually came out of my moms psuuy.

[Fallguy20]

I really like this one. Did you get it from somewhere?

Winston Churchill

[Draz]

Whenever I nut, my d1ck shrinks.

[BurningHammer]

You can never die if you are already dead.
http://oi51.tinypic.com/5vzn2d.jpg

[L.Kizzle]

Whenever I nut, my d1ck shrinks.
That's weird. For some reason, my dick stays hard for like 8-12 minutes after I nut, than it slowly goes away.

[Draz]

That's weird. For some reason, my dick stays hard for like 8-12 minutes after I nut, than it slowly goes away.
Really? Dang, I wish I had those super powers brah. I die down the min I nut. :roll:

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

That's weird. For some reason, my dick stays hard for like 8-12 minutes after I nut, than it slowly goes away.

We don't factor the opinion of coloreds when discussing serious matters, sir.

[Myth]

Naw, it's more uncomfortable to me that I actually came out of my moms psuuy.

C-section biitches!

[Magic bird]

or if you don't rely on "wealth". The freest people I've met have had nothing.
This, i was surprised to see noone had said this yet

[gigantes]

thanks for the lecture gigantes now it's up to you to re-motivate our downtrodden spirits and bruised egos.
for those particular complaints, "follow your bliss" is always some good advice.

to which i would add: learn to enjoy reality for what it is, and enjoy the fleeting but eternal moments of your life. such things are the only real wealth we butterflies will ever possess.

[CeltsGarlic]

There's thing called Paradox of Choice, and basically it boils down to the position where the guy in a "slave-ish" position is actually free in a sense, because he doesn't have to choose shit and make decisions [that essentially is the compromising and therefore not being able to do what you want]. So it's like the less freedom [as you describe it] you have = the more free you feel.

Actually it was a good episode on futurama about free will. That no one has it.
Another good episode was "godfellas" - my fav episode. . Everyone should watch it.

[OhNoTimNoSho]

AI wasn't really the answer.
Unless the question was who is the Answer. Then the answer is AI. He is the answer to his own question, thats why hes the Answer.

[rufuspaul]

Our dads f*cked our moms.


:eek:

[BoogieWoogieMan]

We've all entered this world ignorant and stupid.

[rufuspaul]

We've all entered this world ignorant and stupid.

Redundancy is redundant.

[JEFFERSON MONEY]

We've all entered this world ignorant and stupid.

But as infants we have incredible instincts

1) The ability to bond.
2) The natural way to breathe (diaphragmic breathing)
2b) Fearlessness in expressing your needs and desires (believe me thsi trait gets lost during the social conditioning years for many)
2c) A strong curiousity of the world around you.
3) Within a few short years our brains are sponges that can subconsciously find order in languages. Ingenius trait!
4) And because of this sponge-like phenomenom and FREE books and INTERNET and EXPERIENCES at your disposal, you have the potential to attain enormous oceans of knowledge and streams of thought.. everyday can be a learning process. Till you kick the bucket. Granted it's impossible to be the brightest crayon in the box, abut everyone has a certain style they can employ to convey their thoughts and a medium to do it in. Everyday, you can sharpen your ability to reason. Everyday, you can train your brain to sift through bullsh!t and focus in on the meat or jist of the knowledge. Everyday, you can broaden your horizons, and everyday you can use self-awareness to repair whatever logical fallacies, intuitive mistakes, or plain misinformation you use in everyday life. And no one's dreamt the dreams you have, or had the exact same styles. I'm not advocating a "Woo wee self-esteem movement yabbadabbadoo ur a unique snowflakes" but in expressing ideas hard and often, like trade, there can be growth, there can be fuel for creativity.
At least there's the glory in the game of progress.

[BoogieWoogieMan]

But as infants we have incredible instincts

1) The ability to bond.
2) The natural way to breathe (diaphragmic breathing)
2b) Fearlessness in expressing your needs and desires (believe me thsi trait gets lost during the social conditioning years for many)
2c) A strong curiousity of the world around you.
3) Within a few short years our brains are sponges that can subconsciously find order in languages. Ingenius trait!
4) And because of this sponge-like phenomenom and FREE books and INTERNET and EXPERIENCES at your disposal, you have the potential to attain enormous oceans of knowledge and streams of thought.. everyday can be a learning process. Till you kick the bucket. Granted it's impossible to be the brightest crayon in the box, abut everyone has a certain style they can employ to convey their thoughts and a medium to do it in. Everyday, you can sharpen your ability to reason. Everyday, you can train your brain to sift through bullsh!t and focus in on the meat or jist of the knowledge. Everyday, you can broaden your horizons, and everyday you can use self-awareness to repair whatever logical fallacies, intuitive mistakes, or plain misinformation you use in everyday life. And no one's dreamt the dreams you have, or had the exact same styles. I'm not advocating a "Woo wee self-esteem movement yabbadabbadoo ur a unique snowflakes" but in expressing ideas hard and often, like trade, there can be growth, there can be fuel for creativity.
At least there's the glory in the game of progress.

I agree that we lost the ability to seek knowledge as a form of excitment, instead of seeing it as a chore or a tendious duty. But what is lost can easily be found. We always have that inner desire of being a student of the world, but it has become muffled over time and how society has taught us to think.

Even though we possess extraordinary capabilities at such a young age, we're also very vulnerable to the person who's raising us, and we are affected by our surroundings. We're all born as a blank page and become slaves to our culture's thinking. Yes, we also have our own unique, intrinsic personality that be can molded, however never truly changed, but we're influenced by the environment that we're born within. We are completely out of our control in such a vital stage of our lives. That could be unsettling for some people.


Redundancy is redundant.

Not necassarily. It's pretty important to know that every inventer, philosopher, billionaire, teacher, mechanic, hobo, cartoonist, pornstar, firefighter, rapper, president, and so on, were born ignorant and confused in this reality. We were all born through hardwork, blood, sweat and pain. It's kind of a humbling way of looking at it and I feel that it makes us all equal. Our stories begin and end the same way; birth and death. Well, after writting this, it doesn't feel like it's an uncomfortable truth anymore. Unless you're racist, prejudice or have a personal vendetta, I suppose. :oldlol:

[SilkkTheShocker]

Black people tend to smell terrible.

[AlphaWolf24]

- Enough of the artsy fartsy " we are all snowflakes.....the same but different eventually melting away"........crap

1. It's 2013 and we are still using a 2006 V message board in ISH

2. Men produce healthy spermatozoa well into thier 90's.....men peak $3xually at 17 years old.:confusedshrug: WTF?...

3. Star Wars 1 , 2 , 3 ( the recent ones....F it you get the idea) did happen

4. Size does matter

5. The Internet is actually serious biznazz

6. Elmo should have been called Pedo

7. When you think about the Universe and Matter......Break down individual cell's.....then look at Humans/Living organisms......

- Humans/Living organisms - Start off as as ingle cell that makes copy's....

- Our cells keep making copy's as we grow until the day we die......when we age that means our copied cell slows down the rate of bieng copied , and the actual copy becomes comprimised over time. ( much like copying a original picture on a copy machine.....the original is perfect......but as you make copy's...each one becomes worse and worse.)

- Telomeres are part of our DNA...they regulate cell growth.....when were young , Telomeres have most our cells making copys at a high rate.......as we grow older telomeres tell our cells to slow down and not make as many copys.

- when a cell that is not supposed to make copy's....keeps on making copys...it is known as cancer. ( unregulated growth)

- as most humans...we look to others to emulate.....( or copy)....we look to others to Bond.....Most of us will find another human and make copys of us ( children)....who they themselves will look at other to emulate and Bond with....and make copy's of thier own.



:cheers:

[PullupJay]

Don't mean to be cynical

People judge you for everything.

Everybody talks sh1t, it's inevitable.

Everybody is a hypocrite.

Everybody sins. You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain.

[OhNoTimNoSho]

Deep down inside everyone just wants to be accepted and cared about.

Everyone is incredibly insecure and ego driven.

The amount of people that you develop a real connection with is slim to none.

[OhNoTimNoSho]

Here's another one that took about 4 years to break through to me because of how unlikable was everyone who I saw uttering it: You can't argue for abortion. It's killing innocent human beings for the sake of personal convenience. Period. And it's legal and encouraged in this country. Your tax dollars pay the people who do it. And you don't care.

It doesn't get more uncomfortable than that.
It makes me uncomfortable that people think things like these..


Really? killing innocent human beings? u trolling right?

[knickswin]

nearly everyone is self absorbed and self conscious

your parents might be idiots

most people would rather delude themselves into believe pleasant things than find the truth

a lot of people lack empathy at a fundamental level

you can be successful even if you're a huge asshole

[knickswin]

cancer is horrible and there's a good chance you will get it. same with alzheimer's.

[Myth]

4. Size does matter


http://www.ibreak4bacon.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Super_Sad.jpg

[Magic bird]

There are more bad people than good people

If you saw $100 on the street, you would take it, it's just human instinct

Human's choose to be bad or good but those who choose bad are the ones who don't know it

[Myth]

There are more bad people than good people

If you saw $100 on the street, you would take it, it's just human instinct

Human's choose to be bad or good but those who choose bad are the ones who don't know it

I guess that depends on your definition of bad. Taking $100 off the ground makes you a bad person? Then sure, most are bad.

[SevereUpInHere]

There are more bad people than good people

If you saw $100 on the street, you would take it, it's just human instinct

Human's choose to be bad or good but those who choose bad are the ones who don't know it


This is wrong, there are definitely more good people than bad people. If $100 falls out of some old ladies purse, I'd guess more than 50% of people would hand it back in.

[Magic bird]

This is wrong, there are definitely more good people than bad people. If $100 falls out of some old ladies purse, I'd guess more than 50% of people would hand it back in.

Humans are instinctively bad, there is nothing to argue against it.

[JtotheIzzo]

Libertarianism is a far flung ideology that can never work in reality.

[rufuspaul]

Libertarianism is a far flung ideology that can never work in reality.


A Jizzo sighting! :eek:

[Fallguy20]

Humans are instinctively bad, there is nothing to argue against it.

Oh I dunno about that...

"What were you trying to prove? That deep down, everybodies as ugly as you? You're alone..." (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln8sVgI9-SQ)