Prime Charles Barkley In Today's NBA

[SilkkTheShocker]

Where would he rank in the top 5 players?

[RoboticWang]

He'd probably fight for the second best position with Durant.

[JohnnySic]

He'd probably fight for the second best position with Durant.
Beat me to it.

[RoboticWang]

Prime Barkley was the destroyer of the worlds.. but we just have to consider that LeBron quite possibly could be in his prime as well. (Allhough we say this every year.) Prime LeBron>Prime Barkley.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Yea, I figure he would be 2A and 2B with Durant.

[KOBE143]

Rich Man Kevin Love :confusedshrug:

[CeltsGarlic]

Rich Man Kevin Love :confusedshrug:

Not even quite the same on every possible aspect and level.
Barkley was a beast and did not camp on 3pt land.

[JohnnySic]

Not even quite the same on every possible aspect and level.
Barkley was a beast and did not camp on 3pt land.
Not prime Barkely so much, but later in his career he started shooting them.

[Pushxx]

Consistent top 3 player.

[Budadiiii]

Slightly worse than Westbrook

westbrook 23/8.5/5.5 and elite defense :bowdown:

[CeltsGarlic]

Slightly worse than Westbrook

westbrook 23/8.5/5.5 and elite defense :bowdown:

relevant.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Slightly worse than Westbrook

westbrook 23/8.5/5.5 and elite defense :bowdown:


OKC would be a better team with prime Barkley. PG is the most overrated position in the NBA.

[Budadiiii]

OKC would be a better team with prime Barkley. PG is the most overrated position in the NBA.
I'm not so sure...


Westbrook isn't like every other PG... The guy scores, passes, rebounds, plays defense, oh... and he gives 100% all game, every game.....


Not to mention off the court he is constantly being a leader telling the guys what to eat, visualization techniques, lucid dreaming, nootropics, stretching, cold showers... etc....


Westbrook is comparable to Jordan on the Bulls in terms of importance...



Barkley just comes up short IMHO.

[SilkkTheShocker]

I'm not so sure...


Westbrook isn't like every other PG... The guy scores, passes, rebounds, plays defense, oh... and he gives 100% all game, every game.....


Not to mention off the court he is constantly being a leader telling the guys what to eat, visualization techniques, lucid dreaming, nootropics, stretching, cold showers... etc....


Westbrook is comparable to Jordan and the Bulls in terms of importance...



Barkley just comes up short IMHO.

I like Westbrook a lot. I think he is more important for OKC winning a title than Durant. But Barkley was just a more dominant player. Very dynamic player. The guy would get a rebound and run the court like a guard, and throw it down. Just nasty....

[CeltsGarlic]

OKC would be a better team with prime Barkley. PG is the most overrated position in the NBA.

Oh god this guy...
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3yww4CmPJ1r3fz0wo1_500.gif

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Yea, I figure he would be 2A and 2B with Durant.
this

[SilkkTheShocker]

Oh god this guy...
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3yww4CmPJ1r3fz0wo1_500.gif


They are very overrated. You just need them to bring the ball up and hit threes.

[Whoah10115]

Yeah, Kevin Durant is as good as Charles Barkley.

[RobertdeMeijer]

With less fast breaks and more double teaming, I wonder if Barkley would be as effective. On top of that, with more players working out nowadays, could Barkley muscle his way through todays' defenses?

[Round Mound]

With less fast breaks and more double teaming, I wonder if Barkley would be as effective. On top of that, with more players working out nowadays, could Barkley muscle his way through todays' defenses?

:facepalm

Charles Barkley Was The Player That Was Most Doubled Prior to Shaq

He Was Called the "Zone Buster" and Created More Defensive Rotations and Ilegal Defenses than Any Othe Player of his Time.

Charles Would Be the 2nd Best Player in the Game after Lebron James.

[Dragonyeuw]

With less fast breaks and more double teaming, I wonder if Barkley would be as effective. On top of that, with more players working out nowadays, could Barkley muscle his way through todays' defenses?

Easily. Not only was Barkley one of the most double-teamed players in his prime,but he was probably naturally one of the strongest players to play. Even today he'd be a match-up nightmare, the only forward who could actually match-up up with him would probably be Lebron who is the only one with the size, strength and athleticism. Prime Garnett's length would bother him in a half-court situation......

[KungFuJoe]

Barkley would make sweet rape on the entire league.

[Whoah10115]

I'd take prime Barkley over any player in the league.

[ShaqAttack3234]

:facepalm

Charles Barkley Was The Player That Was Most Doubled Prior to Shaq

He Was Called the "Zone Buster" and Created More Defensive Rotations and Ilegal Defenses than Any Othe Player of his Time.

Charles Would Be the 2nd Best Player in the Game after Lebron James.

I agree, Barkley was among the most doubled player I've seen along with Shaq and Hakeem. Looking at old games, Kareem would probably be up there as well. Either way, Barkley would be a nightmare in any era. The league hasn't gotten bigger and stronger since Barkley retired, in fact, the opposite has happened. And putting a smaller, quicker guy on Barkley is just asking for trouble.

[Round Mound]

I agree, Barkley was among the most doubled player I've seen along with Shaq and Hakeem. Looking at old games, Kareem would probably be up there as well. Either way, Barkley would be a nightmare in any era. The league hasn't gotten bigger and stronger since Barkley retired, in fact, the opposite has happened. And putting a smaller, quicker guy on Barkley is just asking for trouble.

Indeed but Most of the People Here Never Saw Prime Barkley Like Us...So They Don`t Believe a 6`4 3/4 ft Powerforward Would Dominate despite the Fact Barkley could lift over 1000 lbs With his Legs, Had the Strongest Lower Torso in the League, Had a 39 Inch Vertical Leap and was 260 lbs in a Good Day Maybe Even More. That Mix of Explosivness is One in a Life Time. Add that the Best Post Game in the League and Among the Best Mid Range Shooters in the League.

Here is a Video With Rare Plays (after Minute 2:35) So People Can Remember The Way Prime Barkley Played.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiNvY93EmWc

:bowdown:

[Round Mound]

Here is an Example of How They Played Prime Charles Barkley In Between the Mid Range and Post

Minute: 3:26 ....Triple Teamed and then a Double Team Sandwich!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Doz4lfCmnM

[Magic bird]

Top 3 during his prime, top 15 before his prime, top 25 in the twilight of his career

[Round Mound]

Top 3 during his prime, top 15 before his prime, top 25 in the twilight of his career

The Best PF Ever in his Peek

[NumberSix]

Niqqa would foul out literally every game.

[ProfessorMurder]

He'd average at least 27/13/5.

[KungFuJoe]

Niqqa would foul out literally every one in the game.

I think this is what you meant to say.

[Round Mound]

I think this is what you meant to say.

:applause: Zone Defenses Against a Prime Barkley? :roll:

He Was the Best "Face Up Shooter" In the NBA from 12-15 ft and the Most Dominant Post Player after McHale and Prior to Shaq.

27 ppg (58%), 13.5 RPG, 5.5 APG, 1.8 SPG and 1.1 BPG atleast.

[Magic bird]

I think this is what you meant to say.
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[ralph_i_el]

inside the arc he would score almost everytime he didn't get doubled.

[andgar923]

The league wouldn't be able to handle him. How are you gonna guard him with today's rules and today's weak minded soft players?

2nd best player? doubt it.

He'd be the best player.

People don't give him enough credit for being a smart player, he was also an excellent passer from any spot. He'd find creases, beat defenders with his quickness, draw fouls at an alarming rate. You guys think Durant and Wade draw fouls? pffffttt that's nothing compared to what he'd draw.

Durant as a jump shooter is averaging 8.9

Chuck's mentality was to ATTACK and keep attacking, he'd avg 10.5 FTA easily, with at least 2 and 1s per game.

The most amazing thing about Chuck is that you forget how short he is. The dude looked like he was 6'9 out there. He'd be the best post player in the league by a mile, and there won't be anything that could be done to stop him.

[Micku]

As other ppl said, he'll likely be competing with Durant as the second best player or something. He'll probably be the biggest mismatch in the league. How can you guard him? He's too strong if you play small and too quick for a big. But he is strong enough to push a big out the way for the rebound. You have to double him, but he is also a good passer.

[Round Mound]

The league wouldn't be able to handle him. How are you gonna guard him with today's rules and today's weak minded soft players?

2nd best player? doubt it.

He'd be the best player.

People don't give him enough credit for being a smart player, he was also an excellent passer from any spot. He'd find creases, beat defenders with his quickness, draw fouls at an alarming rate. You guys think Durant and Wade draw fouls? pffffttt that's nothing compared to what he'd draw.

Durant as a jump shooter is averaging 8.9

Chuck's mentality was to ATTACK and keep attacking, he'd avg 10.5 FTA easily, with at least 2 and 1s per game.

The most amazing thing about Chuck is that you forget how short he is. The dude looked like he was 6'9 out there. He'd be the best post player in the league by a mile, and there won't be anything that could be done to stop him.

Here are Small Samples of Chuck`s Post Games and Spins To the Basket.

Minute: 3:01

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zagEanxx3o8

With Today`s Rules Where You Can`t Even Touch a Player, Imagine How Many Times He`d Get to The Line?

[andgar923]

Here are Small Samples of Chuck`s Post Games and Spins To the Basket.

Minute: 3:01

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zagEanxx3o8

With Today`s Rules Where You Can`t Even Touch a Player, Imagine How Many Times He`d Get to The Line?
Aside from the footwork, strength, vision and balance, he knew how to use his body as a shield which is something simple yet not too many people do today. I think what also aided him was the low center of gravity which gave him more leverage vs taller players.

He was an enigma and once in a lifetime athlete/player.

[Magic bird]

Aside from the footwork, strength, vision and balance, he knew how to use his body as a shield which is something simple yet not too many people do today. I think what also aided him was the low center of gravity which gave him more leverage vs taller players.

He was an enigma and once in a lifetime athlete/player.

:bowdown:

[Rake2204]

Barkley would make sweet rape on the entire league.I think that's the long and short of it. I'm not even big on playing the, "He'd dominate because the current NBA is weak" game. I just think Chuck is a guy who would do his thing in any era. There's a lot of 6'4'' talk going around with him and maybe that scares folks. And true, maybe his barefoot height is around there. But in NBA land, where shoe height is king, he's considered a 6'5'' or 6'6'' guy. He certainly did not look like a midget when he was out there.

I just do not see anything about today's game that'd make me thing his output would suffer at all in comparison to his own era.

[Round Mound]

He Was and Is 6`4 3/4 ft as He Himself Mentions In His Book, Interviews and Even on Real Data of Olympic Measurments (6`4 5/8 ft Olympic Measurement) so with Shoes around 6`5 1/2 ft.

Other Small PFs where Larry Johnson around 6`6 ft and Clearence Whetherespoon who was called the Baby Barkley, he was 6`5 1/2 ft

The Problem is that Other Players lists are Totally Wrong and Not Exact. MJ is listed at 6`6 ft but Everyone Who Watched the Game Knows He is Exactly the Same Height as Barkley (maybe a bit taller) 6`4 3/4 ft and the same as Kobe fore example.

Same Happend To Dwight Howard who is around 6`9 3/4 or 6`10 not 6`11 ft but Closer to 6`9 ft. Garnett is closer to 7'0 ft than 6`11 but he Doesn`t Like to Being Called "A 7ft PF" Which is Dumb cause Dirk is 7`0 ft and a PF (although plays more like a SF)

There are Plenty of Players whos Data and for Example Sports Cards list More than So, Or Less than So...Of What They Really Are:

Magic listed at 6`9 ft but he is Closer to 6`8 ft or 6`7 3/4 ft (Bird is Clearly Taller and listed at 6`9 ft closer to 6`9 1/2 ft)

Karl Malone is really 6`8 3/4 ft but listed at 6`9 ft

People Should Watch the Games and Compare Barkley to Players that where Legit 6`6 ft or 1.98 mt like Mark Aguirre, Thunder Dan, Dennis Rodman etc.

People Also Don`t Understand that Barkley`s Body Was One of the Strongest in NBA Players for What Ever Height Listed! That Strength with a 260 lbs Body and a 39 Vertical Inch Helped Him Tremendously Around the Post and Away from the Post.

Also it Bothers Many that the SHORTEST PF EVER, WAS ALSO THE MOST DOMINANT OF HIS TIME. There is a Jelousy and Envy Against that and It Doesn`t Help That Barkley Being Himself is One of the Greatest Trash Talkers and Oustpoken Personalities Ever in Sports. That Hurts Is Legacy a bit Too.

[FKAri]

He would do great. But not as great as he did in his time. The rules changes don't give him any advantage while providing some disadvantages. Stern doesn't want to see back to the basket players in today's league.

[Rake2204]

[B]He Was and Is 6`4 3/4 ft as He Himself Mentions In His Book, Interviews and Even on Real Data of Olympic Measurments (6`4 5/8 ft Olympic Measurement) so with Shoes around 6`5 1/2 ft......Yeah I wasn't trying to slight him of anything. I know we've all gone through this "real height vs. with shoes NBA listing" thing over and over again. I was just saying, with how the NBA treats heights, 6'6'' is about right for him. NBA logic is often: with shoes, round up when half an inch or above. I know it's not an exact policy, but that tends to be how it works. As such, we can often kind of operate knowing everyone has an inch or inch and a half above their barefoot height.

I think Chuck was just awesome and I do not feel referencing his barefoot height should always be brought up. If that be the case, I feel we'd be best served doing that for every player ever, and that'd be kind of tedious.

[Round Mound]

Yeah I wasn't trying to slight him of anything. I know we've all gone through this "real height vs. with shoes NBA listing" thing over and over again. I was just saying, with how the NBA treats heights, 6'6'' is about right for him. NBA logic is often: with shoes, round up when half an inch or above. I know it's not an exact policy, but that tends to be how it works. As such, we can often kind of operate knowing everyone has an inch or inch and a half above their barefoot height.

I think Chuck was just awesome and I do not feel referencing his barefoot height should always be brought up. If that be the case, I feel we'd be best served doing that for every player ever, and that'd be kind of tedious.

If They Round Up ...Then It Should Be Done...For Every Player Without Hesitation:

Dirk Nowitisky 6`11 3/4 ft Without Shoes...Then 7`0 ft 3/4 ft
Kevin Garnett 6`11 3/4 ft Without Shoes....Then 7`0 3/4 ft
Tim Duncan 6`11 ft Without Shoes...Then 7`0 ft
Kevin McHale 6`10 1/2 ft Without Shoes...Then 6`11 1/2 ft
Chris Webber 6`9 3/4 ft Without Shoes...Then 6`11 ft
Karl Malone 6`8 3/4 ft Without Shoes....Then 6`10 ft

They Did Not Do It For Barkley`s Case Why? :confusedshrug:

Either for For These Reasons:

1) They Don`t Wan`t Other Teams Too Look For More Barkley`s or Extreamly Undersized Players because its Not the Norm (He is a Phenomena)
2) They Sized Him Up So It Would Look Better on the Listings or Cards etc
3) They Did Not Wan`t Others to Find Out What his Real Height Was.
4) etc

I Don`t Know For What Reason They Don`t List Him With his Real Height? :confusedshrug: but It Has to Be One of Those 3 IMO...

[Round Mound]

He would do great. But not as great as he did in his time. The rules changes don't give him any advantage while providing some disadvantages. Stern doesn't want to see back to the basket players in today's league.

:facepalm

Then How Come Bynum Who is A 100% Back To the Basket Player and Has Nothing 10 Ft Away from the Rim Averaging 18.7 PPG on 13.3 FGAs PG While Shooting at 55.8% FG?

How Come Old 36 Year Old Tim Duncan Who Can Hardly Move Like Before and Was Never an Oustide Mid Range or Far Range Shooter is Averaging 17.1 PPG on 13.7 FGAs PG Whle SHooting at 50.0% FG While Playing Only 30 MPG?

Dwight Howard Has Zero Basic Post Moves and Was Averaging 20 and 58% Plus FG before Going to the Lakers?

I Think Its the Total Opposite...

Barkley Would Dominate This Era More than Before cause of the Soft Rules for Bangers that Have Handles, Foot Quickness and Major Spin Moves like he Did.

Stern Doesn`t Wan`t Post Players Anymore? Fine...It Might Be True...But There Are Plenty of Players that Live in that Region and Are Still Producing With Ease and Without it Not Being a Specialiity. For Barkley it Was an Speciality.

[Round Mound]

The league wouldn't be able to handle him. How are you gonna guard him with today's rules and today's weak minded soft players?

2nd best player? doubt it.

He'd be the best player.

People don't give him enough credit for being a smart player, he was also an excellent passer from any spot. He'd find creases, beat defenders with his quickness, draw fouls at an alarming rate. You guys think Durant and Wade draw fouls? pffffttt that's nothing compared to what he'd draw.

Durant as a jump shooter is averaging 8.9

Chuck's mentality was to ATTACK and keep attacking, he'd avg 10.5 FTA easily, with at least 2 and 1s per game.

The most amazing thing about Chuck is that you forget how short he is. The dude looked like he was 6'9 out there. He'd be the best post player in the league by a mile, and there won't be anything that could be done to stop him.

And Without Hand Checking for Off the Dribble Players like BARKLEY was? :eek: (apart from his Monster Post Up Game, 12-15 Ft Puller and Mid Range Jump Fadeaway etc)

[Whoah10115]

Charles Barkley actually played SF for a few seasons. He had Mahorn at PF and that other guy (can't spell his name) at C.


Charles was over 260 and playing SF. He was still undersized (at height) at the SF position but obviously there wasn't anyone as strong as he was. And most people think he was the MVP over Magic that year.


Kevin Durant has absolutely nothing on Charles Barkley. Seriously? Barkley is smarter, is more than his stats, made others better, is the best playmaking 4 or 5 ever. One of the best passing 4's or 5's ever. The best ball-handling 4 or 5 ever. He was one of the best scorers, in any era. But his overall offensive game is all-time elite. He was literally a terror. He was one of the best rebounders in the game and a guy the other team had to gameplan for on the glass. Not only would he be competing with Dwight and Love and the rest for the rebounding crown, he'd terrorize the glass to the point that his teammates would have an easier time rebounding the ball.


And he'd probably have an easier time on the defensive end, as there are plenty of defensive centers he can play next to AND defensive strategies would do more -not even just to hide him- but to utilize him. Plus, with his personality, he isn't a guy who is EVER going to fall thru the cracks. He and Lebron would have a battle. But Kevin Durant? No.

[magic chiongson]

chuck will not be top 5 due to multiple suspensions

[Round Mound]

Charles Barkley actually played SF for a few seasons. He had Mahorn at PF and that other guy (can't spell his name) at C.


Charles was over 260 and playing SF. He was still undersized (at height) at the SF position but obviously there wasn't anyone as strong as he was. And most people think he was the MVP over Magic that year.


Kevin Durant has absolutely nothing on Charles Barkley. Seriously? Barkley is smarter, is more than his stats, made others better, is the best playmaking 4 or 5 ever. One of the best passing 4's or 5's ever. The best ball-handling 4 or 5 ever. He was one of the best scorers, in any era. But his overall offensive game is all-time elite. He was literally a terror. He was one of the best rebounders in the game and a guy the other team had to gameplan for on the glass. Not only would he be competing with Dwight and Love and the rest for the rebounding crown, he'd terrorize the glass to the point that his teammates would have an easier time rebounding the ball.


And he'd probably have an easier time on the defensive end, as there are plenty of defensive centers he can play next to AND defensive strategies would do more -not even just to hide him- but to utilize him. Plus, with his personality, he isn't a guy who is EVER going to fall thru the cracks. He and Lebron would have a battle. But Kevin Durant? No.

:applause:

[IGOTGAME]

2nd best player in the league.

Let's not disrespect Lebron.

[Round Mound]

2nd best player in the league.

Let's not disrespect Lebron.

Agree :applause:

[gengiskhan]

Where would he rank in the top 5 players?

I'll not bother mentioning Sir Charles Skill level

On pure strength & Stamina Alone, Barkley will average 35-40 ppgs easily & 12 RPG easily.

The amount of open court bball is played these days, Barkley will be destroying kobe, lbj, durant left, right & center.

Barkley was a pit bull that softies like kobe, melo, durant can never handle.

he was in the gangraping business on the court.

[bdreason]

Prime Barkley would be the 2nd best player in the NBA today.


On the right squad I could see him posting 30/12/4 on 55%.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

2nd best player in the league.

Let's not disrespect Lebron.
this

[Bigsmoke]

like 4th or 5th

[Whoah10115]

Disrespect Lebron?

Please...that I'm not sure is the best compliment I've ever given Lebron.

[Teanett]

zach randolph with gerald wallace atheleticism.

[Round Mound]

Charles Barkley`s FTAs would Increase in this Era of Can`t Touch This. Maybe 10-11 FTAs PG

Biggest Forward Missmatch Ever.