Howard walking with stat sheet after game showing it to teamates

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

per kevin ding of OC

what a loser

[Kiddlovesnets]

per kevin ding of OC

what a loser

Dwight > Kobe.
:cheers:

[IGOTGAME]

Someone should show him the 40 times he could get position in the post to receive a pass.

[Clippersfan86]

What an asshole.

[LONGTIME]

http://cdn3.sbnation.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/6738799/airdwight.0_standard_709.0.gif

[Knoe Itawl]

Ol Chuckbe, isolating teammates again. Ain't nuttin new

[brownmamba00]

wow is this guy for real?

[NumberSix]

It has to be said. Maybe if everyone wasn't such a coward and finally called Kobe out for his chucking, they'd be able to win some games. It's 2013. Kobe isn't the calibre of player that warrants taking 25 long range shots per game.

[Kiddlovesnets]

It has to be said. Maybe if everyone wasn't such a coward and finally called Kobe out for his chucking, they'd be able to win some games. It's 2013. Kobe isn't the calibre of player that warrants taking 25 long range shots per game.

Indeed, Dwight isnt a coward and he stands up against the chucker, now people are calling him a cancer. Since when did the definition of cancer change? The reason why the likes of Iverson were called cancers was because the team was playing better and winning more games without them. Lakers without Dwight went on a 6 games losing streak.

[Kujo]

What are the odds Dwight resigns? :oldlol:

[AussieG]

It was obvious 2 weeks into the season that all of this was going to happen.

[JohnnySic]

That's hilarious.

[Doranku]

2 made field goals, 4 turnovers, and 5 fouls. Why would he want to show anyone that stat sheet? :roll: Disgraceful game, disgraceful player, disgraceful human being.

If the Lakers offer him a max contract, I'm done supporting them.

[dazzer87]

Good for Howard. Standing up for himself. :applause:

[Kiddlovesnets]

Good for Howard. Standing up for himself. :applause:

Yeah, the Lakers season could've been saved if someone is willing to risk his reputation standing up against Kobe. Kobe used to be a good player, but its not his era anymore. Remember how Shaq stepped down to play Wade's robin in Heat's first title? Similarly with Wade in 12?

[NattyPButter]

I want to see how this team does with a few games without Kobe. It would show Kobe is the problem.

[NumberSix]

I'm honestly gonna enjoy being a Laker fan much more when Kobe is gone.

[Twiens]

Really? Trade this cripple

[DirkNowitzki41]

Please tell me this is true :roll: :roll: :roll:

[FireDavidKahn]

Please tell me this is true :roll: :roll: :roll:
http://www.ocregister.com/sports/howard-408753-lakers-team.html

[quote]After the game he brought a stat sheet around the locker room to show some teammates and reporters how he got only five field-goal attempts ... a few minutes before the demoted Gasol spoke gracefully across the room about "not pointing fingers, owning up to our responsibilities, wanting to get out of this and having the pride necessary that it takes to utilize our talents and go beat the opponent

[SCdac]

Howards stats:

Wins - 19.5 ppg, 12.0 shots
Losses - 15.1 ppg, 9.2 shots

seems pretty obvious it's best to get Howard going... or at least try every game.

5 shots aint enough.

[longtime lurker]

Howards stats:

Wins - 19.5 ppg, 12.0 shots
Losses - 15.1 ppg, 9.2 shots

seems pretty obvious it's best to get Howard going... or at least try every game.

5 shots aint enough.

Could you also post the turnovers and free throws attempted and made too?

[TheMarkMadsen]

Could you also post the turnovers and free throws attempted and made too?


wtf no! that wouldn't fit the agenda

[BMOGEFan]

Could you also post the turnovers and free throws attempted and made too?

The turnovers don't really tell the whole story because the turnover is assessed on the passer.

[SCdac]

Could you also post the turnovers and free throws attempted and made too?

High turnovers and low FT% have been a constant all through out Howard's career.... wins or losses.

The point is, Lakers are going nowhere if they keep Howard a 10-shots-or-less player.

[longtime lurker]

High turnovers and low FT% have been a constant all through out Howard's career.... wins or losses.

The point is, Lakers are going nowhere if they keep Howard a 10-shots-or-less player.

Lol why don't you just post them. Because FT attempts and turnovers have an effect on how many shots Dwight gets. :confusedshrug: I'm not saying Dwight shouldn't get more touches I'd love to see him get 20 shots a game but lets be real now you haven't actually seen Dwight play this year

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

Yeah, the Lakers season could've been saved if someone is willing to risk his reputation standing up against Kobe. Kobe used to be a good player, but its not his era anymore. Remember how Shaq stepped down to play Wade's robin in Heat's first title? Similarly with Wade in 12?

nets fan are so pathetic its not even funny...lol

[imdaman99]

I'm honestly gonna enjoy being a Laker fan much more when Kobe is gone.
Wow look at this guy, a Lakers and Heat fan :cheers:

I guess you root for whoever wins that year. Good for you. Remind me to take all your posts seriously in the future :bowdown:

[SpecialQue]

While Kobe's been playing like straight-up rotten ass lately, y'all need to remember that more than a few games would have been won if Dwight hit his freethrows (when coaches were hacking him early in the season), and I don't know how many times I've seen the ball smacked out of Mr. Butterfinger's hands.

This team is just a failure basically. My biggest reason for wanting a Pau for Bosh trade is because I actually like Bosh and would like to see Pau used properly like he used to be. Not to mention get another ring.

[SCdac]

Lol why don't you just post them. Because FT attempts and turnovers have an effect on how many shots Dwight gets. :confusedshrug: I'm not saying Dwight shouldn't get more touches I'd love to see him get 20 shots a game but lets be real now you haven't actually seen Dwight play this year

I've watched him enough to know they're treating him like pretty much a role player, ala Tyson Chandler... He turns the ball over, yes, but his leash is shorter than it should be. This is a player who's ALWAYS turned the ball over and ALWAYS shot poorly at the line... Fact of the matter is, in wins he's putting up nearly 20 ppg. If I'm coach, I'm trying to get him to the number, not shut him out.

split stats are here ... (he turns the ball over virtually the same amount in W/L's)
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/splits/_/id/2384/dwight-howard

[Skywalker]

Toxic team. Massive overhaul needed asap

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

I've watched him enough to know they're treating him like pretty much a role player, ala Tyson Chandler... He turns the ball over, yes, but his leash is shorter than it should be. This is a player who's ALWAYS turned the ball over and ALWAYS shot poorly at the line... Fact of the matter is, in wins he's putting up nearly 20 ppg. If I'm coach, I'm trying to get him to the number, not shut him out.

split stats are here ... (he turns the ball over virtually the same amount in W/L's)
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/splits/_/id/2384/dwight-howard

And only sees a 2% drop off in free throws. Dude needs the ball more. How much that falls on Kobe and/or D'Antoni is another story.

[alleykat]

I've watched him enough to know they're treating him like pretty much a role player, ala Tyson Chandler... He turns the ball over, yes, but his leash is shorter than it should be. This is a player who's ALWAYS turned the ball over and ALWAYS shot poorly at the line... Fact of the matter is, in wins he's putting up nearly 20 ppg. If I'm coach, I'm trying to get him to the number, not shut him out.

split stats are here ... (he turns the ball over virtually the same amount in W/L's)
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/splits/_/id/2384/dwight-howard

Good post man

[longtime lurker]

I've watched him enough to know they're treating him like pretty much a role player, ala Tyson Chandler... He turns the ball over, yes, but his leash is shorter than it should be. This is a player who's ALWAYS turned the ball over and ALWAYS shot poorly at the line... Fact of the matter is, in wins he's putting up nearly 20 ppg. If I'm coach, I'm trying to get him to the number, not shut him out.

split stats are here ... (he turns the ball over virtually the same amount in W/L's)
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/splits/_/id/2384/dwight-howard

Nice thanks for the link :cheers:

[TheMarkMadsen]

can you imagine what the haters would be saying if Kobe did this?


OMG he so selfish

OMGZZZ he only cares about his stats.


but noooo D12 does it and it's "about time he said something"


:rolleyes:

[SilkkTheShocker]

can you imagine what the haters would be saying if Kobe did this?


OMG he so selfish

OMGZZZ he only cares about his stats.


but noooo D12 does it and it's "about time he said something"


:rolleyes:


You and tpols are the same poster.

[longtime lurker]

And only sees a 2% drop off in free throws. Dude needs the ball more. How much that falls on Kobe and/or D'Antoni is another story.

It's D'Antoni's offense. You ever wonder why World Peace is able to hoist up more shots than Howard? There is no way the Lakers should be taking 20 25 3 point shots a night and that includes every player. But that's what D'antoni's offense dictates. Max should be 15 shots and the rest should be going inside. Just my opinion

[arifgokcen]

I've watched him enough to know they're treating him like pretty much a role player, ala Tyson Chandler... He turns the ball over, yes, but his leash is shorter than it should be. This is a player who's ALWAYS turned the ball over and ALWAYS shot poorly at the line... Fact of the matter is, in wins he's putting up nearly 20 ppg. If I'm coach, I'm trying to get him to the number, not shut him out.

split stats are here ... (he turns the ball over virtually the same amount in W/L's)
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/splits/_/id/2384/dwight-howard

Wow what an answer.

Thanks mate.

I think without kobe or MDA they would be better.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Lakers players and Kobe need to go out and say to give Dwight at least 15 shots every game. I know he gets stripped and misses freethrows, but still, 15 shots minimum. Kobe and Nash are really the only players that try to get the ball into the post. They look for Howard or Pau. Guys like Morris yesterday didn't pass it to Dwight who had position and was asking for the ball and instead went for a layup and got blocked. Scrubs should not be taking shots, pass the ball and move out the way. Don't have a problem with Dwight doing this. 5 shots? This isn't the first time, he has had multiple games with under 10 shots this season. And no Kobe is not the problem. He actually makes an effort to pass the ball inside. ******s need to watch the games instead of just looking at FGA.

[longtime lurker]

Is Dwight trying to get traded? I can't seriously believe that anyone would actually pull this shit. Gasol's talking about individual accountability, Kobe's talking about going back to basics getting Gasol and Nash going, yet Howard's only talking about me me me and never addresses his defensive shortcomings.

[Levity]

has this been confirmed as true?

because if it has, it just further proves Dwight has a childs mentality when it comes to adult business. Sure, he may have only had 5 official shot attempts last night, which would make any superstar upset, but theres no need to run around with a stat sheet in hand trying to get everyone on your side. This is a professional sport that millions follow. Everyones well aware of how many shots a player took and why. No need for a child like justification for it.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

What an asshole.
you're back?

[Kiddlovesnets]

you're back?

Jeff realized that without Clippersfan86 there was like no Clippers fans on ISH at all, so he decided to unban him to protect the minority.

[Celtic_Pride]

This team is just a failure basically. My biggest reason for wanting a Pau for Bosh trade is because I actually like Bosh and would like to see Pau used properly like he used to be. Not to mention get another ring.

With Pau instead of Bosh, Heat would definitely be better offensively and will be more consistent in the half court game which at times they struggle at.

But defensively, they will not have the same championship caliber defense due to Pau. Heat's defense is so good because of icing the pick n rolls and rotating quickly. Bosh is a lot better than Pau regarding this because he is much more athletic and younger.

Although Gasol even at this age is more skilled than Bosh, Heat will lose more than they gain with this trade, so it won't happen!

[SpecialQue]

has this been confirmed as true?


http://www.ocregister.com/articles/howard-408753-lakers-team.html

[QUOTE]After the game he brought a stat sheet around the locker room to show some teammates and reporters how he got only five field-goal attempts ... a few minutes before the demoted Gasol spoke gracefully across the room about "not pointing fingers, owning up to our responsibilities, wanting to get out of this and having the pride necessary that it takes to utilize our talents and go beat the opponent

[Mr Exlax]

has this been confirmed as true?

because if it has, it just further proves Dwight has a childs mentality when it comes to adult business. Sure, he may have only had 5 official shot attempts last night, which would make any superstar upset, but theres no need to run around with a stat sheet in hand trying to get everyone on your side. This is a professional sport that millions follow. Everyones well aware of how many shots a player took and why. No need for a child like justification for it.

He's young. Still. I thought this article was saying Dwight was complaining about Kobe's shots last night. He's only concerned about his and I'm cool with it. Andrew Bynum and Pau Gasol have complained about the same thing last season. Dwight is making a stand for what he feels is best. I can't really knock him for that.

[SpecialQue]

With Pau instead of Bosh, Heat would definitely be better offensively and will be more consistent in the half court game which at times they struggle at.

But defensively, they will not have the same championship caliber defense due to Pau. Heat's defense is so good because of icing the pick n rolls and rotating quickly. Bosh is a lot better than Pau regarding this because he is much more athletic and younger.

Although Gasol even at this age is more skilled than Bosh, Heat will lose more than they gain with this trade, so it won't happen!

That and it would be idiotic for a championship team to trade away a major piece of their roster. I can dream though.

[longtime lurker]

He's young. Still. I thought this article was saying Dwight was complaining about Kobe's shots last night. He's only concerned about his and I'm cool with it. Andrew Bynum and Pau Gasol have complained about the same thing last season. Dwight is making a stand for what he feels is best. I can't really knock him for that.

Kobe is a 5 time champion, one of the most decorated players in NBA history and is still playing at an elite level. If anything Dwight Howard should be learning from him, not antagonizing him. This stand up to Kobe crap is getting old. You don't have to be best friends with your teammates but you should be able to work together. He can learn a lot from NAsh, Pau and Kobe but showing a stat sheet around the locker room is just idiotic

[LakersFan626]

Dwight > Kobe.
:cheers:

Last two games, 5 points and 8 points, and his impact on the games has been inferior to Kobe's. If efficiency was the main reason for player rankings, then Tyson Chandler would be in the top 5 players.

[jayfan]

1. If they had hired Jerry Sloan instead, things would likely be better right now. A championship team? No. But better than this present cluster-f***.

2. I'm not quite sure what Kobe has to do with the fact that Dwight Howard sucks, but Dwight Howard sucks.

[The-Legend-24]

2 made field goals, 4 turnovers, and 5 fouls. Why would he want to show anyone that stat sheet? :roll: Disgraceful game, disgraceful player, disgraceful human being.

If the Lakers offer him a max contract, I'm done supporting them.
:oldlol: This guy is a f*cking joke. This is the guy that is supposed to carry the Lakers to more titles when Kobe retires? :roll: Yea f*cking right.

SHIP HIS ASS OUT!! Do it Mitch!

[Jameerthefear]

One thing that annoyed me about the current situation w/ Dwight is the way he played vs Milwaukee. What the Lakers did is instead of getting it to him in the highpost/ they ran the pick n roll with Nash and got him buckets that way. The Lakers have kind of gone away from that now. With Dwight the best thing to do is get him some easy lobs/lay-ins and then he tends to get going on the block. L.A needs to reconsider the way he's getting the ball. Get him going in the 1st q and then start giving it to him 1 on 1

[glidedrxlr22]

per kevin ding of OC

what a loser

A loser with a short fuse calling someone else a loser? Hilarious :oldlol:

[Mr Exlax]

Kobe is a 5 time champion, one of the most decorated players in NBA history and is still playing at an elite level. If anything Dwight Howard should be learning from him, not antagonizing him. This stand up to Kobe crap is getting old. You don't have to be best friends with your teammates but you should be able to work together. He can learn a lot from NAsh, Pau and Kobe but showing a stat sheet around the locker room is just idiotic

He wasn't talking about Kobe's shots though. He was talking about his own. I'm ok with that. He's gotta learn some stuff from the older players and all of that, but he also was the man on his own team. I imagine it's a struggle going from 1st option to no option lol.

[Mr. Incredible]

Dwight is easily becoming my least favorite player. The man has no mental fortitude and has no clue what it takes to win in the NBA. Wasting away his prime athleticism. Sad really.

[Rubio2Gasol]

To me Howard needs to go back to the basics of pick and roll to get more shots. His go to moves are failing but he's still as mobile a big man as there is in the game.

Look at Andre Drummond.

Dude can score at will just by diving to the rim.If he does that it will open up space for the other facets of his game.

Stop whining and asking for the ball in the post and then proceeding to fail.

Also - forget that end of the court and play some god damn defense.

[LAKERSRETHEBEST]

Howard walking with stat sheet after game??? He should be doing something useful like, I don't know, practicing his freakin free throw shooting.

[Whoah10115]

Indeed, Dwight isnt a coward and he stands up against the chucker, now people are calling him a cancer. Since when did the definition of cancer change? The reason why the likes of Iverson were called cancers was because the team was playing better and winning more games without them. Lakers without Dwight went on a 6 games losing streak.



You must be doing a lot of drugs. Because there is no way to justify it and that's that.



If this is true...he be gone. Nothing else to say.

[Money 23]

Toxic team. Massive overhaul needed asap
Word, trade EVERYONE but Kobe and Gasol.

Gasol is burnt out in LA, but you can't trade him cause he's locked up for 3 years, and Dwight isn't re-signing, can't risk losing two big men.

Trade Dwight / Nash / Artest and pieces for some youth and athleticism.

[Go Getter]

Indeed, Dwight isnt a coward and he stands up against the chucker, now people are calling him a cancer. Since when did the definition of cancer change? The reason why the likes of Iverson were called cancers was because the team was playing better and winning more games without them. Lakers without Dwight went on a 6 games losing streak.
:biggums:

The Sixers made the finals with Iverson and haven't been back since

[Whoah10115]

I've watched him enough to know they're treating him like pretty much a role player, ala Tyson Chandler... He turns the ball over, yes, but his leash is shorter than it should be. This is a player who's ALWAYS turned the ball over and ALWAYS shot poorly at the line... Fact of the matter is, in wins he's putting up nearly 20 ppg. If I'm coach, I'm trying to get him to the number, not shut him out.

split stats are here ... (he turns the ball over virtually the same amount in W/L's)
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/splits/_/id/2384/dwight-howard



These are good points but I don't think it's fully accurate. I think his stats are more an indication of his approach and his performance in those games. There are way too many games where he gets stripped a million times or can't handle the pressure and bobbles the ball until he either puts up a good shot or leaves someone else in a position of having to make something happen against the shot clock.


Someone made a point that Kobe and the team have to come out and say Dwight is gonna get at least 15 shots, and then make sure that he gets at least 15 shots. That's all well and good, except Howard should stop being a bitch. No one should announce or gameplan him to get 15 shots. He should play better.

[SpecialQue]

Can't believe no one's talking about this from the same article:


Despite Kobe Bryant shooting at a career-high level, Howard has mocked Bryant's shooting stats behind his back when he hasn't shot well, leaving Lakers teammates feeling awfully uncomfortable.

Seems to be just as big a deal as him walking around like a dork with that stat sheet.

[Whoah10115]

Can't believe no one's talking about this from the same article:



Seems to be just as big a deal as him walking around like a dork with that stat sheet.



I wasn't willing to read anything, so I had no idea. If that's true, Howard has got to be traded TODAY. And if I'm Houston, I no longer am interested. Harden's points can go down and that's fine for him, but they have other scorers and I'd really wonder about Howard's ego now.


If this is actually true, then he either has to make up NOW or he has to be traded NOW. That's it.

[La Frescobaldi]

Well it was inevitable.
Coach taking huge and undeserved heat....
Kobe twirling strings trying to be the puppet master.......
Next, I predict Shaq will be traded to some team where he will pretty much win another ring....
Oh wait this is different ..... right?

[SpecialQue]

I wasn't willing to read anything, so I had no idea. If that's true, Howard has got to be traded TODAY. And if I'm Houston, I no longer am interested. Harden's points can go down and that's fine for him, but they have other scorers and I'd really wonder about Howard's ego now.


If this is actually true, then he either has to make up NOW or he has to be traded NOW. That's it.

Yeah. I mean, I know everyone here likes to bash Kobe, and his fans have done a great job adding fuel to that, but to say that somehow Dwight is completely blame-free here is absurd. I think maybe myself and a couple other people here wanted nothing to do with Dwight during the Dwightmare because of his immaturity and because we already have an excellent, capable center with Pau. It's ridiculous that people here somehow think that Kobe's the only one to be held accountable on a team of this caliber.

[longtime lurker]

Can't believe no one's talking about this from the same article:



Seems to be just as big a deal as him walking around like a dork with that stat sheet.

:roll: :roll: it's obvious that Dwight doesn't even want to be in LA. The Lakers are looking to trade the wrong bigman, but then again don't believe everything you hear.