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insidehoops
01-24-2013, 08:11 PM
These are the players voted by NBA coaches as bench players for the 2013 NBA All-Star game.

The 2013 East All-Star reserves are:
Jrue Holiday
Kyrie Irving
Paul George
Luol Deng
Chris Bosh
Joakim Noah
Tyson Chandler

The 2013 West All-Star reserves are:
Tony Parker
Russell Westbrook
James Harden
Zach Randolph
LaMarcus Aldridge
David Lee
Tim Duncan

konex
01-24-2013, 08:11 PM
No Curry is unbelievable

jalbert009
01-24-2013, 08:13 PM
The 2013 West All-Star reserves are:
Tony Parker
Russell Westbrook
James Harden
Zach Randolph
LaMarcus Aldridge
David Lee
Tim Duncan

The East All-Star reserves are coming shortly...

I have too say, not a bad selection. I wish they chose Curry though and just found a replacement for him so it would have worked out the same anyway. :cheers:

Sarcastic
01-24-2013, 08:15 PM
No Curry is unbelievable


Between Parker, Harden, and Westbrook - who's spot should he take?

Droid101
01-24-2013, 08:16 PM
Marc Gasol is a better player than LaMarcus Aldridge this season.

29 of 30 teams in this league would take Marc Gasol over Aldridge if given the choice straight up.

bdreason
01-24-2013, 08:18 PM
Should have been Curry over Harden. Curry has the better record, better stats, and he's the better player (ya I said it).

Droid101
01-24-2013, 08:18 PM
Should have been Curry over Harden. Curry has the better record, better stats, and he's the better player (ya I said it).
He'll be the first player in NBA history to average 3 3-pointer makes per game to go with 6 or more assists.

alenleomessi
01-24-2013, 08:18 PM
Should have been Curry over Harden. Curry has the better record, better stats, and he's the better player (ya I said it).
??

Droid101
01-24-2013, 08:20 PM
??
How about this for a stat:

James Harden, field goal percentage: 43%

Stephen Curry, three point field goal percentage: 45%

colorz
01-24-2013, 08:20 PM
Really wanted to see Crawford but he probably didn't deserve it. No Curry is ridiculous.

Jyap9675
01-24-2013, 08:21 PM
no curry! this is blasphemy

iDunk
01-24-2013, 08:21 PM
6 new All Stars this season.

The NBA is changing guys ..

Clocian-IGN
01-24-2013, 08:21 PM
Noah!

KG215
01-24-2013, 08:23 PM
East Reserves
Jrue Holiday
Kyrie Irving
Luol Deng
Paul George
Chris Bosh
Tyson Chandler
Joakim Noah


Kyrie got in. Good, he deserved it. No Nets.

BlackWhiteGreen
01-24-2013, 08:24 PM
So after all this changing the format so there's no centres, there are like 7 players who play centre in the game. :oldlol:

chazzy
01-24-2013, 08:24 PM
Bosh over Lopez?

Blue&Orange
01-24-2013, 08:24 PM
Those fools on TNT had JR SMith going to the All-star game :lol

Droid101
01-24-2013, 08:25 PM
So after all this changing the format so there's no centres, there are like 7 players who play centre in the game. :oldlol:
To be fair, eight years ago most of those guys would be at PF. Duncan, Garnett, etc.

Hell, Tyson played PF with Eddy Curry in Chicago. The center position is just getting smaller.

JoshCoward
01-24-2013, 08:27 PM
Haven't seen much of Paul George this season but does he deserve this All-Star selection?

bdreason
01-24-2013, 08:27 PM
??



Harden 25/4/5 on 43/85%
Curry 21/4/7 on 44/89%


Curry gives up 4 ppg for 2 apg, shoots higher %'s, rebounds better for his position, and hits more than three 3-pointers per game at 45%.

Derka
01-24-2013, 08:27 PM
How does Bosh make it over Lopez?

BlackWhiteGreen
01-24-2013, 08:28 PM
To be fair, eight years ago most of those guys would be at PF. Duncan, Garnett, etc.

Hell, Tyson played PF with Eddy Curry in Chicago. The center position is just getting smaller.

I know, but still. I was expecting more small players in the starting lineups

PJR
01-24-2013, 08:29 PM
Thank god Bosh made it. As pretty mentally fragile as he is, it could've hampered Miami's repeat efforts. :lol

Zackmorris
01-24-2013, 08:30 PM
I love Kryie and all but come on really?

Droid101
01-24-2013, 08:30 PM
Thank god Bosh made it. As pretty mentally fragile as he is, it could've hampered Miami's repeat efforts. :lol
Pretty big joke there. Guys who should be in over Bosh:

Horford
Smith
Lopez

Just off the top of my head.

Sarcastic
01-24-2013, 08:31 PM
Harden 25/4/5 on 43/85%
Curry 21/4/7 on 44/89%


Curry gives up 4 ppg for 2 apg, shoots higher %'s, rebounds better for his position, and hits more than three 3-pointers per game at 45%.


For Curry you round up and Harden you round down? Harden is at 25.8 ppg. That's actually a big disparity to put an extra 5 ppg. Harden also has a PER of 22, while Curry is at 19.84.

coin24
01-24-2013, 08:31 PM
East reserves suck. Way to pick boring losers. Except for Kyrie and maybe Tyson...

JR Smith should have made it.

coin24
01-24-2013, 08:33 PM
Bosh has played like complete shit this year, WTF:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

:biggums:

Droid101
01-24-2013, 08:33 PM
For Curry you round up and Harden you round down? Harden is at 25.8 ppg. That's actually a big disparity to put an extra 5 ppg. Harden also has a PER of 22, while Curry is at 19.84.
Sorry, Curry has been a better player on a better team.

Since December 1, Stephen Curry is shooting better on 3-pointers (.478) than Zach Randolph is overall (.477).

jaydacris
01-24-2013, 08:34 PM
two bulls players
but no nets players

interesting...

not surprised coaches dont like deron :lol

PJR
01-24-2013, 08:35 PM
Pretty big joke there. Guys who should be in over Bosh:

Horford
Smith
Lopez

Just off the top of my head.

Deal with it.

http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/A+wild+Chris+Bosh+appears_326bae_3648397.gif

brandonislegend
01-24-2013, 08:36 PM
Kyrie yeeeeeee

Y2Gezee
01-24-2013, 08:36 PM
JR Smith shouldn't be an allstar. Absolutely not.

For Charles to say JR should be in over Tyson is a joke. Without Tyson the Knicks are a joke right now. They're already thin on the frontline with injuries....he's filling in a lot of holes.

Raymond Felton (without the month off) would've had a stronger push for all star than JR Smith. He is the team's second option until Amare gets right.


Brooklyn? I agree Brook Lopez may have been snubbed. I think it came down to Chandler and Lopez...coaches picked Chandler for past success and to reward his career. I could've seen Lopez over him though.

Josh Smith is an allstar, his past 10 days hurt him. The biggest snub of the East.


Steph Curry not making it is maybe the biggest snub in a long time, but the guard situation out West is tough man. Can't leave off Parker or Westbrook. If Anything Curry should've been in over Harden or Kobe (fan votes :facepalm:)

PJR
01-24-2013, 08:37 PM
Anyone thinking Jr Friggin Smith derserved to be an all star is a moron. Im sorry. :oldlol:

Blue&Orange
01-24-2013, 08:38 PM
I love Kryie and all but come on really?
Dude is a beast, more than deserved

Sarcastic
01-24-2013, 08:39 PM
Sorry, Curry has been a better player on a better team.

Since December 1, Stephen Curry is shooting better on 3-pointers (.478) than Zach Randolph is overall (.477).

You do realize the game is in Houston right? They are going to get one player in the game at least. The argument should be Curry over Parker, not Harden.

b0bab0i
01-24-2013, 08:39 PM
Should have been Curry over Harden. Curry has the better record, better stats, and he's the better player (ya I said it).
Game is hosted in Houston, so they need to have an all-star playing from the Houston Rockets of course.


And Hardens stats are pretty good.

alenleomessi
01-24-2013, 08:40 PM
East reserves suck. Way to pick boring losers. Except for Kyrie and maybe Tyson...

JR Smith should have made it.
paul george and jrue are definitely not boring players
maybe you just dont like the game...

red1
01-24-2013, 08:41 PM
excellent choice making sure bostrich gets his allstar spot

Graviton
01-24-2013, 08:41 PM
Curry deserved it over Aldridge.
Bosh deserved it and is a legit all-star, even though his last few games have been lackluster. He is a 3rd option afterall, can't expect him to put up crazy stats now that D-Wade is back to 100%.
Kyrie, Deng, Holiday didn't deserve it over Smith/Horford/Lopez. Putting up stats on shit teams>winning now?

red1
01-24-2013, 08:41 PM
How can anyone even argue against kyrie. Kyrie > deron and JJ

jimmy77x
01-24-2013, 08:42 PM
Anyone thinking Jr Friggin Smith derserved to be an all star is a moron. Im sorry. :oldlol:

But chris bosh did? :facepalm you heat bandwagoners are pathetic.

It's A VC3!!!
01-24-2013, 08:43 PM
deng... really? biggest travesty the asg has ever seen.

Graviton
01-24-2013, 08:44 PM
But chris bosh did? :facepalm you heat bandwagoners are pathetic.
17/7 on 54% as a 3rd option, get the **** outta here. He is an allstar playing behind 2 superstars and helping his team win games. Who exactly deserves it over him?

red1
01-24-2013, 08:45 PM
harden is also a no brainer for all-star

brandonislegend
01-24-2013, 08:45 PM
Curry deserved it over Aldridge.
Bosh deserved it and is a legit all-star, even though his last few games have been lackluster. He is a 3rd option afterall, can't expect him to put up crazy stats now that D-Wade is back to 100%.
Kyrie, Deng, Holiday didn't deserve it over Smith/Horford/Lopez. Putting up stats on shit teams>winning now?

How is it Kyrie fault he got drafted by the Cavs and has the worst teammates in the league? He should be punished because the second best player on his team is Alonzo Gee wow you're ****ing dumb.

You mad kyrie has a brighter future than westbrick lolol

Sarcastic
01-24-2013, 08:46 PM
Curry deserved it over Aldridge.
Bosh deserved it and is a legit all-star, even though his last few games have been lackluster. He is a 3rd option afterall, can't expect him to put up crazy stats now that D-Wade is back to 100%.
Kyrie, Deng, Holiday didn't deserve it over Smith/Horford/Lopez. Putting up stats on shit teams>winning now?

3 forward spots and 2 guard spots. Do the math.

PJR
01-24-2013, 08:46 PM
But chris bosh did? :facepalm you heat bandwagoners are pathetic.

Deal with it, pus.sy. :lol

U mad?

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l551/miamiheatles3/boshjam_medium.gif

It's A VC3!!!
01-24-2013, 08:46 PM
how can a hca team have zero all stars? I'm speechless. Lopez deserved it.

AngelEyes
01-24-2013, 08:47 PM
He'll be the first player in NBA history to average 3 3-pointer makes per game to go with 6 or more assists.

Cherry picking stats.

Blue&Orange
01-24-2013, 08:47 PM
Kyrie, Deng, Holiday didn't deserve it over Smith/Horford/Lopez. Putting up stats on shit teams>winning now?
:facepalm

They play against the other team players not his teammates.

I remember people saying the same thing of David Lee when he was on the Knicks, even when he was getting double doubles alongside Z-Bo.

Droid101
01-24-2013, 08:47 PM
Cherry picking stats.
Why is that cherry picking? Seems that a good point guard should be able to set his teammates up and knock down a three if teams go under the screen. He does both very well.

andremiller07
01-24-2013, 08:48 PM
So the Celtics have 2 Allstar and the Nets have zero lol all I can say is wow. The West looks pretty fair other than Howard being in it.

jimmy77x
01-24-2013, 08:48 PM
Deal with it, pus.sy. :lol

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l551/miamiheatles3/boshjam_medium.gif

I like the fact that you dont deny being a D!ck riding bandwagoner :lol we'll see where you are when the heat suck again in 2 years :lol

It's A VC3!!!
01-24-2013, 08:51 PM
The white house needs to declare world war 3 because deng made the all star team.

AngelEyes
01-24-2013, 08:51 PM
Haven't seen much of Paul George this season but does he deserve this All-Star selection?

He's the best player on that team.

webberz0044
01-24-2013, 08:51 PM
I think you made a mistake Jeff, I don't see Steph Curry listed on the West reserves :confusedshrug:

tmacattack33
01-24-2013, 08:51 PM
Not bad.

Coaches know their shit voting in Paul George and Jrue. The fans woulda put Deron and like Ray Allen over them two.

PJR
01-24-2013, 08:52 PM
I like the fact that you dont deny being a D!ck riding bandwagoner :lol we'll see where you are when the heat suck again in 2 years :lol

Not that I need to prove anything to you.

But I've been a Heat season ticket holder since 2000. Since the American Airlines Arena first opened. I was born and raised in Miami. Coral Gables to be exact.

Next.

Graviton
01-24-2013, 08:54 PM
How is it Kyrie fault he got drafted by the Cavs and has the worst teammates in the league? He should be punished because the second best player on his team is Alonzo Gee wow you're ****ing dumb.

You mad kyrie has a brighter future than westbrick lolol
Maybe he deserved it, but not over other players with better records. Lot of people have shitty teammates, that ain't an excuse. Jennings is above .500 with similar one dimensional teammates.

Yea I am mad Kyrie is gonna lead his team to lottery for the next 5 years while Westbrook is in the Finals. I am scared shitless. :oldlol:

jimmy77x
01-24-2013, 08:55 PM
Not that I need to prove anything to you.

But I've been a Heat season ticket holder since 2000. Since the American Airlines Arena first opened. I was born and raised in Miami. Coral Gables to be exact.

Next.

um hum sure buddy everybody is all of a sudden a long time die hard fan when a team is winning. I just cant wait to see the so called heat fans disappear once your glory period is over and you suck.

coin24
01-24-2013, 08:55 PM
17/7 on 54% as a 3rd option, get the **** outta here. He is an allstar playing behind 2 superstars and helping his team win games. Who exactly deserves it over him?

How the fu*k is Bosh averaging 17??:confusedshrug: All the heat games ive seen he scores maybe 10-14 points on horrible shooting:facepalm

andremiller07
01-24-2013, 08:57 PM
How the fu*k is Bosh averaging 17??:confusedshrug: All the heat games ive seen he scores maybe 10-14 points on horrible shooting:facepalm

His start to the season was insane % and scoring wise if I remember correct

Derka
01-24-2013, 08:57 PM
The hell? Paul Pierce absolutely did not get snubbed...dude has no business on the All-Star team this year.

brandonislegend
01-24-2013, 08:58 PM
Maybe he deserved it, but not over other players with better records. Lot of people have shitty teammates, that ain't an excuse. Jennings is above .500 with similar one dimensional teammates.

Yea I am mad Kyrie is gonna lead his team to lottery for the next 5 years while Westbrook is in the Finals. I am scared shitless. :oldlol:

Yes Jennings has Monta, Ilysova, Dunleavy, Sanders.

Westbrook is getting carried to the finals he is a cancer shoots more shots than the best scorer in the nba :roll: low IQ.

Wait til Irving gets a decent team and people cant triple team him. He shooters a better percentage from everywhere on the field and he has no one to take attention from him. He made the all star team because he his stats are incredible and he is if not the most exciting player to watch. He is the most polished 19/20 year old ever.

Dictator
01-24-2013, 09:00 PM
You gotta be shitting me. The fck? FUkk this shitt! I'll murder stern and the mutherfcker who chose this shitt.

coin24
01-24-2013, 09:01 PM
Yes Jennings has Monta, Ilysova, Dunleavy, Sanders.

Westbrook is getting carried to the finals he is a cancer shoots more shots than the best scorer in the nba :roll: low IQ.

Wait til Irving gets a decent team and people cant triple team him. He shooters a better percentage from everywhere on the field and he has no one to take attention from him. He made the all star team because he his stats are incredible and he is if not the most exciting player to watch. He is the most polished 19/20 year old ever.



This:applause:


Kyrie >>>> Westbrick

Graviton
01-24-2013, 09:02 PM
Yes Jennings has Monta, Ilysova, Dunleavy, Sanders.

Westbrook is getting carried to the finals he is a cancer shoots more shots than the best scorer in the nba :roll: low IQ.

Wait til Irving gets a decent team and people cant triple team him. He shooters a better percentage from everywhere on the field and he has no one to take attention from him. He made the all star team because he his stats are incredible and he is if not the most exciting player to watch. He is the most polished 19/20 year old ever.
Yea I will wait for your fantasy predictions, the day Cavs get a decent team will be the day they move out of Cleveland. Nobody wants to play in that black hole.

selrahc
01-24-2013, 09:03 PM
bosh didnt deserve it. dude looks like a freakin velociraptor

TylerOO
01-24-2013, 09:04 PM
Should have been Curry over Harden. Curry has the better record, better stats, and he's the better player (ya I said it).

:roll: :roll: Harden single handedly has his team in the playoffs. Curry has another all-star beside him.

brandonislegend
01-24-2013, 09:05 PM
Yea I will wait for your fantasy predictions, the day Cavs get a decent team will be the day they move out of Cleveland. Nobody wants to play in that black hole.

He won't stay past his rookie contract if they dont get some talent, if you swap Westbrook for Irving the thunder win the championship, better spacing, higher IQ, way better ball handler, and clutch to death and Westbrook shoots 35% from the field, he shoots 41% with Kevin Durant on his team imagine if he was getting full attention :roll:

webberz0044
01-24-2013, 09:05 PM
Who selects the reserves anyway? I always thought it was the chosen head coaches of East and West.

TylerOO
01-24-2013, 09:06 PM
How about this for a stat:

James Harden, field goal percentage: 43%

Stephen Curry, three point field goal percentage: 45%

How about this for a stat:

James Harden, field goal percentage: 43%

Stephen Curry, field goal percentage: 43%

Idiot.

TylerOO
01-24-2013, 09:08 PM
For Curry you round up and Harden you round down? Harden is at 25.8 ppg. That's actually a big disparity to put an extra 5 ppg. Harden also has a PER of 22, while Curry is at 19.84.

He's an obvious homer, ignore him.

RedBlackAttack
01-24-2013, 09:09 PM
He won't stay past his rookie contract if they dont get some talent, if you swap Westbrook for Irving the thunder win the championship, better spacing, higher IQ, way better ball handler, and clutch to death and Westbrook shoots 35% from the field, he shoots 41% with Kevin Durant on his team imagine if he was getting full attention :roll:
This guy is so annoying. The only bad thing about acquiring a really great young player is the hanger-on fans that take this kind of approach to their fanboyism.

Worst part, guy is on record as stating Kyrie would be a bust prior to the 2011 draft. Now, he's all over his jock. Go root for the Heat or something.

brandonislegend
01-24-2013, 09:10 PM
This guy is so annoying. The only bad thing about acquiring a really great young player is the hanger-on fans that take this kind of approach to their fanboyism.

Worst part, guy is on record as stating Kyrie would be a bust prior to the 2011 draft. Now, he's all over his jock.

? Show me that post. :wtf:

I said he would be good but no one could have predicted this

SacJB Shady
01-24-2013, 09:11 PM
the all star is an embarrassment and a joke. i hope mark jackson goes ape shit as well as charles

Droid101
01-24-2013, 09:12 PM
How about this for a stat:

James Harden, field goal percentage: 43%

Stephen Curry, field goal percentage: 43%

Idiot.
I would call that a lie, because it's not true.

brandonislegend
01-24-2013, 09:12 PM
This guy is so annoying. The only bad thing about acquiring a really great young player is the hanger-on fans that take this kind of approach to their fanboyism.

Worst part, guy is on record as stating Kyrie would be a bust prior to the 2011 draft. Now, he's all over his jock. Go root for the Heat or something.

Show me the record lol. You are delusional. I am sorry for being a fan of a excellent player? You mad?

Y2Gezee
01-24-2013, 09:13 PM
paul george and jrue are definitely not boring players
maybe you just dont like the game...


I like JR...but his offense is brutal to watch. The guy drives to the hole to pull up for a 8 ft jumper that's always too strong instead of making plays at the rim. He's a jump shooter, and an inconsistent one.

SacJB Shady
01-24-2013, 09:15 PM
harden is not leading his team to winning basketball. If he was on the thunder i know he wouldn't be an all star. Him being on a bad team makes him look good

RedBlackAttack
01-24-2013, 09:17 PM
? Show me that post. :wtf:

I said he would be good but no one could have predicted this
Actually, "decent" is the word you used... Which would be a bust for the No. 1 overall pick.


I thought Kyrie Irving would be decent PG maybe one allstar game but it looks like he is a franchise changer.


Point is, you spend your days on here slobbering all over Irving and putting down the rest of the team, like the usual fanboy. That is the customary trait.

The Cavs are actually in a really good place right now in terms of a young core, tons of picks and tons of cap space.

brandonislegend
01-24-2013, 09:20 PM
Actually, "decent" is the word you used... Which would be a bust for the No. 1 overall pick.




Point is, you spend your days on here slobbering all over Irving and putting down the rest of the team, like the usual fanboy. That is the customary trait.

The Cavs are actually in a really good place right now in terms of a young core, tons of picks and tons of cap space.

For the future yes because of draft picks and expiring contracts but their current roster is one if not the worst team in the league

no pun intended
01-24-2013, 09:23 PM
Harden deserves to play for his home crowd. Give him a break.

RedBlackAttack
01-24-2013, 09:24 PM
For the future yes because of draft picks and expiring contracts but their current roster is one if not the worst team in the league
Don't ya think that is sort of the point at this stage? And, it isn't "just" because picks and cap space. It is also the young talent already on the team... Irving, Thompson, Waiters, Zeller.

It would be beyond retarded to go out and spend a ton of money for playoff-caliber role players or even a legitimate No. 2 scorer when these guys aren't ready to make that jump yet.

You can enjoy Kyrie's game without attacking the rest of the team every damn post.

SacJB Shady
01-24-2013, 09:24 PM
Aldridge and Curry have the same amount of points except Curry's 3 point percentage is better than Alridge's 3 point percentage, I mean 2 point percentage. Portland is under 500 and not even in the top 8. That is not good enough. that is not good enough. If it is, then it's not about winning. Aldridge does not deserve it, he knows it, and yesterday said he doesn't think he will make it. He shouldn't have made it.

SacJB Shady
01-24-2013, 09:26 PM
Barkley has always hated the Warriors. Now he wants to blast the coaches asses for not picking Curry. Even he knows the truth. Thank you Chuck. Go blast they asses. ****in punks.

brandonislegend
01-24-2013, 09:26 PM
Don't ya think that is sort of the point at this stage? And, it isn't "just" because picks and cap space. It is also the young talent already on the team... Irving, Thompson, Waiters, Zeller.

It would be beyond retarded to go out and spend a ton of money for playoff-caliber role players or even a legitimate No. 2 scorer when these guys aren't ready to make that jump yet.

You can enjoy Kyrie's game without attacking the rest of the team every damn post.

I am not attacking anyone I am saying what is true. If I say the sky is blue attacking the sky? Its a fact they have the worst if not top 3 worst teams in the league at the moment.

CelticBaller
01-24-2013, 09:28 PM
Aldridge and Curry have the same amount of points except Curry's 3 point percentage is better than Alridge's 3 point percentage, I mean 2 point percentage. Portland is under 500 and not even in the top 8. That is not good enough. that is not good enough. If it is, then it's not about winning. Aldridge does not deserve it, he knows it, and yesterday said he doesn't think he will make it. He shouldn't have made it.
Aldridge is a fvcking PF, even if he wasn't picked his spot couldn't' go to curry

red1
01-24-2013, 09:39 PM
shut the fcuk up shady

Cali Syndicate
01-24-2013, 09:39 PM
Why does the east have five forwards and two guards while the west has three guards and four forwards?

Unless George is voted as a guard? Which is wrong right?

TylerOO
01-24-2013, 09:40 PM
I would call that a lie, because it's not true.

Whats their shooting percentages then?

CelticBaller
01-24-2013, 09:41 PM
Why does the east have five forwards and two guards while the west has three guards and four forwards?

Unless George is voted as a guard? Which is wrong right?
George is a SG

Cali Syndicate
01-24-2013, 09:42 PM
George is a SG

So lance Stephenson, who is five inches shorter, is the pacers starting sf?

brandonislegend
01-24-2013, 09:43 PM
So lance Stephenson, who is five inches shorter, is the pacers starting sf?

yes

alenleomessi
01-24-2013, 09:44 PM
harden is not leading his team to winning basketball. If he was on the thunder i know he wouldn't be an all star. Him being on a bad team makes him look good
rockets are around .500 because of harden... one man team

switch him with curry and the rockets are at the bottom of the west

RedBlackAttack
01-24-2013, 09:44 PM
I am not attacking anyone I am saying what is true. If I say the sky is blue attacking the sky? Its a fact they have the worst if not top 3 worst teams in the league at the moment.
That's actually not all you said. You also noted that Kyrie "may leave after his rookie contract," which there is absolutely no evidence of and it is a constant theme I've noticed out of you when it pertains to this team... Even though you admit the franchise is in a really good place in the grand scheme of things.

It would be one thing if there were an owner in place who was tight with his wallet and not willing to invest in his franchise, but Gilbert is the exact opposite. In fact, the only reason Kyrie is in Cleveland right now is because he bought him.

He just threw down another wad of cash for yet another pick and a few guys who should significantly improve the bench if nothing else. I have absolutely no doubt that, when the time comes and this team (including Kyrie) are ready to make a run at the playoffs, he'll pony up and bring in the talent needed.

Yes, the Cavs' roster is one of the worst in the league currently, but that has everything to do with age/experience and nothing to do with bad team management. I mean, the Cavs' four best players are 22 or under. Think about that for a minute.



But, anyway.... Great to see Kyrie on the team and I'm glad Jrue made it too. Both very deserving. Too bad Andy suffered the injury, because I think he would have made it with the way he was playing. Then again, they probably wouldn't go with two Cavs.

CelticBaller
01-24-2013, 09:44 PM
So lance Stephenson, who is five inches shorter, is the pacers starting sf?
I'm not so sure, but George has always been billed as a SG and against the Celtics he was the starting SG.

Cali Syndicate
01-24-2013, 09:47 PM
yes

Really? That's retarded.

Btw both nba reference and nba.com has George as a forward and lance as a guard.

Cali Syndicate
01-24-2013, 09:47 PM
rockets are around .500 because of harden... one man team

switch him with curry and the rockets are at the bottom of the west

Prove it

bdreason
01-24-2013, 09:53 PM
Paul George is playing SF this year. They've even talked about what they are going to do with George when Granger returns to take back the SF spot. They will probably just move him back to SG, where he played last season... although George has thrived since moving to his natural position at SF.

selrahc
01-24-2013, 09:54 PM
Really? That's retarded.

Btw both nba reference and nba.com has George as a forward and lance as a guard.

usually granger starts at small forward thats why they play george as SG

brandonislegend
01-24-2013, 09:56 PM
I am glad they let Jrue, Kyrie and Paul George in, all deserving and the future of the league.

Bcogswell
01-24-2013, 09:56 PM
:roll: :roll: Harden single handedly has his team in the playoffs. Curry has another all-star beside him.

Just saying that Houston is 9th in the west.. :confusedshrug:

kingBynum
01-24-2013, 10:04 PM
wow no curry:biggums:

ProfessorMurder
01-24-2013, 10:08 PM
Aldridge is ass, should've been Curry. Other than that, sounds alright.

Cali Syndicate
01-24-2013, 10:10 PM
usually granger starts at small forward thats why they play george as SG

But granger hasn't played one game all season.

Droid101
01-24-2013, 10:11 PM
Just saying that Houston is 9th in the west.. :confusedshrug:
http://www.general-anaesthesia.com/images/ether.jpg

Whoah10115
01-24-2013, 11:16 PM
Harden 25/4/5 on 43/85%
Curry 21/4/7 on 44/89%


Curry gives up 4 ppg for 2 apg, shoots higher %'s, rebounds better for his position, and hits more than three 3-pointers per game at 45%.



Curry scores 20.9. Harden scores 25.8. Harden averaged 4.5 and 5.4. Curry averages 4.1 and 6.6. He shoots 43.6% from the field and 89.4% from the line. Harden shoots 43.4% from the field and 85.5% from the line. You're messing with the stats. A lot.

Harden is much better than Curry. The Rockets are .500 and just a tie-breaker out of the playoffs right now.



Again, it should be said. A roster is 15 guys. Why are the All-Star rosters 12 guys? An MLB roster (outside of September) is 25 guys. The All-Star rosters are 35 guys. That's the direction you should go.



harden is not leading his team to winning basketball. If he was on the thunder i know he wouldn't be an all star. Him being on a bad team makes him look good


.500 and tied for the last spot with...




Aldridge and Curry have the same amount of points except Curry's 3 point percentage is better than Alridge's 3 point percentage, I mean 2 point percentage. Portland is under 500 and not even in the top 8. That is not good enough. that is not good enough. If it is, then it's not about winning. Aldridge does not deserve it, he knows it, and yesterday said he doesn't think he will make it. He shouldn't have made it.



Aldridge's team. A team with a starting line-up (Hickson as the starting center) and no bench. Neither team is bad. You don't get Curry ahead of Harden, because Harden has been much much better. Not even a little close.


Aldridge is different, but he's a legit all-star.



yes


No he isn't.




Aldridge is ass, should've been Curry. Other than that, sounds alright.



Legit all-star. Gasol deserves it more than either of them.



JR Smith shouldn't be an allstar. Absolutely not.

For Charles to say JR should be in over Tyson is a joke. Without Tyson the Knicks are a joke right now. They're already thin on the frontline with injuries....he's filling in a lot of holes.

Raymond Felton (without the month off) would've had a stronger push for all star than JR Smith. He is the team's second option until Amare gets right.


Brooklyn? I agree Brook Lopez may have been snubbed. I think it came down to Chandler and Lopez...coaches picked Chandler for past success and to reward his career. I could've seen Lopez over him though.

Josh Smith is an allstar, his past 10 days hurt him. The biggest snub of the East.


Steph Curry not making it is maybe the biggest snub in a long time, but the guard situation out West is tough man. Can't leave off Parker or Westbrook. If Anything Curry should've been in over Harden or Kobe (fan votes :facepalm:)


Curry is not near the snub that Josh Smith was last year.


J.R. Smith has a shout as the Knicks 2nd best player. Raymond Felton had less than 0 shouts. He's not our second option. Never was, never will be. Never can be. Smith does everything better and has much greater impact. Not even close.

Whoah10115
01-24-2013, 11:18 PM
To be fair, eight years ago most of those guys would be at PF. Duncan, Garnett, etc.

Hell, Tyson played PF with Eddy Curry in Chicago. The center position is just getting smaller.



Curry played PF and Chandler was the center. The only time Chandler ever played PF was when Antonio Davis was there and, in reality, Davis was the 4 and Chandler was the 5.


Duncan was only a PF because of Robinson and then because he didn't want to move. There's no era where Duncan is playing PF, unless it's a circumstance of the team.

Cali Syndicate
01-25-2013, 12:10 AM
Harden

November 24/4/5 on 41%/33% - 17fga
December 28/5/5 on 46%/39% - 17fga
January 25/5/6 on on 41%/25% - 19fga

Curry

November 19/4/6 on 43%/43% - 15fga
December 22/5/7 on 44%/48% - 17fga
January 24/3/7 on 46%/47% - 18fga

Whoah10115
01-25-2013, 12:13 AM
Harden

November 24/4/5 on 41%/33% - 17fga
December 28/5/5 on 46%/39% - 17fga
January 25/5/6 on on 41%/25% - 19fga

Curry

November 19/4/6 on 43%/43% - 15fga
December 22/5/7 on 44%/48% - 17fga
January 24/3/7 on 46%/47% - 18fga



The only thing that shows is that Curry is having a better month.


So should we disregard how much better Harden was before? This "since such date" thing is not the way to evaluate anything.

TylerOO
01-25-2013, 12:16 AM
Just saying that Houston is 9th in the west.. :confusedshrug:

Well they have the same win percentage as Portland. Close enough.

TylerOO
01-25-2013, 12:17 AM
http://www.general-anaesthesia.com/images/ether.jpg

So whats Hardens FG% and Curry's FG% again? :lol

RRR3
01-25-2013, 12:20 AM
Curry should have made it but not over Harden. Harden has been sensational this season, top 10 player IMO, really dominating until he fell off recently. Who do you put Curry over, though? I wish that the selections didn't HAVE to be a certain number of guards and frontcourt players, and the coaches could pick more or less of certain types of players. As long as they are a couple of centers, you'll be fine. The most deserving players should make it. I think there possibly should be more all-star players selected anyways, but who knows.

Cali Syndicate
01-25-2013, 12:22 AM
The only thing that shows is that Curry is having a better month.


So should we disregard how much better Harden was before? This "since such date" thing is not the way to evaluate anything.

It also shows Curry is getting better and better as the season is progressing while Harden got hot in December. Is Harden an all-star cause of December's great play?

Whoah10115
01-25-2013, 12:47 AM
It also shows Curry is getting better and better as the season is progressing while Harden got hot in December. Is Harden an all-star cause of December's great play?


No, he's an all-star because of November, December, January. I could honestly argue for him starting.

Whoah10115
01-25-2013, 12:48 AM
Again, the rosters should be made of 15 guys.

Y2Gezee
01-25-2013, 12:56 AM
J.R. Smith has a shout as the Knicks 2nd best player. Raymond Felton had less than 0 shouts. He's not our second option. Never was, never will be. Never can be. Smith does everything better and has much greater impact. Not even close.


Whatever you say buddy. Felton was the 2nd leading scorer before his injury and took more attempts. JR's production increased after Melo and Felton took games off.

And it's only going to be more limited for JR when Felton returns, Amare gets healthier, and Shumpert keeps balling.

JR has a role and he's not doing a great job at it. He needs to hit open shots, and he's bricking them. He will return to his more playmaking role off the bench too that made people actually like him earlier in the season.

Whoah10115
01-25-2013, 01:03 AM
Whatever you say buddy. Felton was the 2nd leading scorer before his injury and took more attempts. JR's production increased after Melo and Felton took games off.

And it's only going to be more limited for JR when Felton returns, Amare gets healthier, and Shumpert keeps balling.

JR has a role and he's not doing a great job at it. He needs to hit open shots, and he's bricking them. He will return to his more playmaking role off the bench too that made people actually like him earlier in the season.



I'm sorry but I don't know what you're saying. Felton had more attempts, I'll give you that. He was not our 2nd best player. His volume was a negative. Smith has been better than him all year.


His all-around game has been terrific. He's not a guy who spots up for open shots, he goes and gets shots. His role is not going to get limited.

bigt
01-25-2013, 01:08 AM
Shame Curry didn't make it, but it shouldn't be at Harden's expense. It's in Houston and he's carrying the Rockets to a potential playoff spot. If anything yes Aldridge is probably the one who shouldn't be there, but at the end of the day it's an All Star Game. It's a bit of fun, it's not that big a deal. Those who use it to judge a player's worth and legacy is being idiotic anyway

SacJB Shady
01-25-2013, 01:09 AM
Whoah1015 u r wrong. 500 basketball is not anything worth honoring let alone to talk about. That is not good whoah1015. And frankly I think you are smarter then that. I mean really? Really... Really? Really?

SacJB Shady
01-25-2013, 01:13 AM
Shame Curry didn't make it, but it shouldn't be at Harden's expense. It's in Houston and he's carrying the Rockets to a potential playoff spot. If anything yes Aldridge is probably the one who shouldn't be there, but at the end of the day it's an All Star Game. It's a bit of fun, it's not that big a deal. Those who use it to judge a player's worth and legacy is being idiotic anyway

But he's carrying them to a potential 8th spot. Not 5th. Not 6th. Not 7th. Maybe 8th. That ain't an all star. That's a good player on a team that might not make the playoffs.

Cali Syndicate
01-25-2013, 01:14 AM
No, he's an all-star because of November, December, January. I could honestly argue for him starting.

Really? Rockets were 6-8 in November and 5-8 so far in January with Harden scoring on 41% from the field in both those months. December he played like an all star for sure.

You can argue for Harden's case, sure. Harden is a good player and had Curry made it, similarly, many would feel harden was snubbed. Thing is you make it sound like Curry shouldn't even be close to making the nod over Harden, which isn't true at all.

SacJB Shady
01-25-2013, 01:18 AM
No, he's an all-star because of November, December, January. I could honestly argue for him starting.


He's shooting 43 percent. That's not ok unless u shoot 45 percent from downtown. Btw his team is not winning. Your argument is bad and I think you're better than that. Harden doesn't deserve.

SacJB Shady
01-25-2013, 01:20 AM
Really? Rockets were 6-8 in November and 5-8 so far in January with Harden scoring on 41% from the field in both those months. December he played like an all star for sure.

You can argue for Harden's case, sure. Harden is a good player and had Curry made it, similarly, many would feel harden was snubbed. Thing is you make it sound like Curry shouldn't even be close to making the nod over Harden, which isn't true at all.


Harden doesn't belong there. Monta Ellis had better years

bigt
01-25-2013, 01:20 AM
But he's carrying them to a potential 8th spot. Not 5th. Not 6th. Not 7th. Maybe 8th. That ain't an all star. That's a good player on a team that might not make the playoffs.

So you don't feel Kyrie should be in the All Star game either then?

If it wasn't in Houston, then I'd agree with you more, but the show is for the fans, and the game is in the city Harden plays for, so give it to him. There are snubs every year, and unfortunately it was likely going to be either Curry or Lee from Golden State getting in. I'm gutted Marc Gasol didn't get in, but if the players themselves are truly pissed, they should use it to dominate in the second half of the year. Their reward can be playoff basketball while those who were put in over them are fishing.

Whoah10115
01-25-2013, 01:21 AM
Really? Rockets were 6-8 in November and 5-8 so far in January with Harden scoring on 41% from the field in both those months. December he played like an all star for sure.

You can argue for Harden's case, sure. Harden is a good player and had Curry made it, similarly, many would feel harden was snubbed. Thing is you make it sound like Curry shouldn't even be close to making the nod over Harden, which isn't true at all.


Harden is a top 10 player in the league, at least this year. Like I said, I could argue him being a starter. I can't make that argument for Stephen Curry.

chips93
01-25-2013, 01:23 AM
harden shoots tons of FTs and tones of threes, so his TS% is 58, above average

hes a pretty efficeint scorer, idgaf about his fg%

Whoah10115
01-25-2013, 01:26 AM
Harden doesn't belong there. Monta Ellis had better years



:roll:

SacJB Shady
01-25-2013, 01:28 AM
:roll:


It hurts me that u support harden and talk so stridently of him. We both know he has been inefficient and his team might not even make the playoffs. They got nothing going for then in Houston. U know where I'm coming from.

Whoah10115
01-25-2013, 01:36 AM
It hurts me that u support harden and talk so stridently of him. We both know he has been inefficient and his team might not even make the playoffs. They got nothing going for then in Houston. U know where I'm coming from.



All-Star means individual player. How one guy plays.


If you wanna go by record, Stephen Curry does not belong on the list. Does your team have as good a record as the Grizzlies? So why should you have two all-stars and they only have one? Are you as good as the Thunder? Let's give them two. I mean, it's just a dumb way to look at it.


I now where you're coming from. You're a fan. Monta Ellis has never had a season as good as the one Harden is having. Never close.


Harden is much more efficient than Curry is. They shoot the same percentage and Harden gets to the line 2 1/2 times as often as Curry does. He breaks down the defense, he sets up players better, is like a running back on a team with no QB, going against defenses that pack the box against him. He puts the other team in foul trouble and opens up the lane for everyone. And while his defense is bad, Stephen's is still worse. Other than being a better shooter (and arguably a rebounder, as Curry plays mostly PG).


Harden does everything better. Curry has more assists, but he isn't the playmaker, passer, creator, facilitator that Harden is.

Whoah10115
01-25-2013, 01:37 AM
Also, those arguing against Holiday and suggesting that he's putting up numbers on a bad team. He's not putting up numbers, he's keeping an undermanned team in the conversation.

SacJB Shady
01-25-2013, 01:39 AM
Whoah.. U do know where I'm coming from and come on we both know certain things. The warriors are right there with Memphis so u cannot compare the rockets. Please present a more fair argument rather than something way in left field. Individually he has not done anything except score. Is he getting double doubles? Rebounds? No curry has as many assists and rebounds. Curry has played the defense if u actually watched. Harden has a low field goal percentage and isn't hitting enough 3's to justify his inefficiency. His team has a good chance to miss the playoffs, they aren't over 500 and we both know that is not remotely impressive. In the nba more teams make the playoffs than don't so being 500 in bball is not good in any way and I don't care how bad his team was. You really do know better then to speak so stridently about harden, who's team hasn't been winning more than 500 percent of their games. Nothing I said was inaccurate. U can't compare the grizzlies and the rockets because the rockets are way behind.

andremiller07
01-25-2013, 01:43 AM
Whoah.. Harden has a low field goal percentage and isn't hitting enough 3's to justify his inefficiency. His team has a good chance to miss the playoffs, they aren't over 500 and we both know that is not remotely impressive.

who cares about shooting % Dwight shoots at like 62% ffs, Harden has more impact on the Houston Rockets winning games than just about any other player in the NBA, Impact on a game > %'s. The fact the Rockets are near 500. is a miracle when hes got Lin as his PG. If Harden was ineffiecent the Rockets would not be near the 500. mark, there is no question Harden should be on the team so should Curry but not over Harden.

nightprowler10
01-25-2013, 01:44 AM
Kyrie, Deng, Holiday didn't deserve it over Smith/Horford/Lopez. Putting up stats on shit teams>winning now?
Agreed that Deng's inclusion is a (pleasant) surprise, but how in holy hell are the Bulls "not winning" but the Hawks are?

Anyway, Noah!

Whoah10115
01-25-2013, 01:44 AM
Whoah.. U do know where I'm coming from and come on we both know certain things. Harden has a low field goal percentage and isn't hitting enough 3's to justify his inefficiency. His team has a good chance to miss the playoffs, they aren't over 500 and we both know that is not remotely impressive. In the nba more teams make the playoffs than don't so being 500 in bball is not good in any way and I don't care how bad his team was. You really do know better then to speak so stridently about harden, who's team hasn't been winning more than 500 percent of their games. Nothing I said was inaccurate.



Sure, a lot of what you say is inaccurate.


You should care how bad his team is. Because the issue is the player.


You call him inefficient, but you don't read all that shit I wrote about his FT attempts, much less the impact it has. Since he gets to the line 6.4 more times a game, that makes a huge difference. So, he is much more efficient than Curry is.


If you put Curry on the Rockets, the Rockets lose a lot more games. If you put Harden on the Warriors, he'd have to play PG until Jack comes in. And I'm pretty sure the Warriors would be as good, even tho he's not an ideal fit. Curry would be a great fit.


Harden is playing better basketball. Therefore, he deserves it more than Curry does.

SacJB Shady
01-25-2013, 01:48 AM
Sure, a lot of what you say is inaccurate.


You should care how bad his team is. Because the issue is the player.


You call him inefficient, but you don't read all that shit I wrote about his FT attempts, much less the impact it has. Since he gets to the line 6.4 more times a game, that makes a huge difference. So, he is much more efficient than Curry is.


If you put Curry on the Rockets, the Rockets lose a lot more games. If you put Harden on the Warriors, he'd have to play PG until Jack comes in. And I'm pretty sure the Warriors would be as good, even tho he's not an ideal fit. Curry would be a great fit.


Harden is playing better basketball. Therefore, he deserves it more than Curry does.


So your only statistical argument is free throw attempts. Whoah harden doesn't deserve to be there I reward winning bball.

andremiller07
01-25-2013, 01:49 AM
So your only statistical argument is free throw attempts.
You can't use just statistics, theres to many other varaibles to take into account.

SacJB Shady
01-25-2013, 01:50 AM
You can't use just statistics, theres to many other varaibles to take into account.

Such as not winning more than 50 percent? Am I getting through to anyone? Btw harden is only scoring a lot because he's not on a good team. Curry can put up good numbers and win too. Harden can't at a first or 2nd option. Thunder are as good without him.

andremiller07
01-25-2013, 01:53 AM
Such as not winning more than 50 percent? Am I getting through to anyone?

So your going to completely discount the fact Harden has a bigger role while playing on a low level talented team which other than Asik is small upfront? Dude I know you love your Warriors but man you can't discredit Harden, hes the only guy oppositions look to stop on Houston the Warriors you have to stop Lee, Klay, Steph if anything the Rockets with the talent they have being 500. is as impressive as the Warriors with there record. Warriors have a super talented team Barnes, Steph, jack, Landry, Lee and a few others.

TMT
01-25-2013, 01:54 AM
Duncan back as an All-Star is great to see. :applause:

I feel bad for Steph Curry but the West is just so loaded, specifically at the guard spot, that someone had to miss the cut. And since David Lee had already made it for GS I think the right call was made.

Whoah10115
01-25-2013, 01:55 AM
So your only statistical argument is free throw attempts. Whoah harden doesn't deserve to be there I reward winning bball.


LOL no. My argument is 4.9 more PPG. More RPG, more SPG, more BPG, more points per attempt. If I cared about PER, I'd use that.


If I want to put those stats in context, then Curry averaged only 0.4 fewer RPG, despite being mostly a PG. But he also plays a lot of minutes at SG, while Jack moves to the point. So that's about equal. Harden averages only 1.2 fewer APG, despite Curry being set up to be the PG most of the game, and despite Lin being the Rockets PG. And when Lin is not in, Douglas comes in as the combo guard. Harden does most of the ball-handling, but he's the guy willing to make the pass before the pass. He passes the ball a lot more and handles it a lot more in tight situations and in playmaking situations, which is why he has a lot of turnovers.


But let's go beyond it...Harden is dominant. Stephen Curry is not.


You can try and get thru to people as much as you want...and Cali_Syndicate usually has a lot of good input on things, but there hasn't been a point in the season where Curry was as good as Harden. Harden does more. Golden State have two of the best 6th men in the league, along with quality everywhere. The Rockets have talent that's scattered all over, without the coach of the year. There shouldn't be any comparison.

SacJB Shady
01-25-2013, 02:51 AM
LOL no. My argument is 4.9 more PPG. More RPG, more SPG, more BPG, more points per attempt. If I cared about PER, I'd use that.

If I want to put those stats in context, then Curry averaged only 0.4 fewer
RPG, despite being mostly a PG. But he also plays a lot of minutes at SG, while Jack moves to the point. So that's about equal. Harden averages only 1.2 fewer APG, despite Curry being set up to be the PG most of the game, and despite Lin being the Rockets PG. And when Lin is not in, Douglas comes in as the combo guard. Harden does most of the ball-handling, but he's the guy willing to make the pass before the pass. He passes the ball a lot more and handles it a lot more in tight situations and in playmaking situations, which is why he has a lot of turnovers.

You can try and get thru to people as much as you want...and Cali_Syndicate usually has a lot of good input on things, but there hasn't been a point in the season where Curry was as good as Harden. Harden does more. Golden State have two of the best 6th men in the league, along with quality everywhere. The Rockets have talent that's scattered all over, without the coach of the year. There shouldn't be any comparison.


Whoah, talking about putting things into context, let's get something through you. Steph Curry has 1.2 more assists per game than Harden. Now you can argue that he has scorers around him, but Lee and Jack also have a lot of assists.


Now you can argue that Steph Curry is a point guard and Harden is a shooting guard. And you can argue that Steph averages slightly more minutes. But then I'm just gonna say that Steph also plays shooting guard whenever Jacks in and still has more assists.


Also, you only chose the stats that you wanted to. James Harden is having an atrocious year when it comes to turnovers. I don't care what your excuse for this is. I'm just going to look at the stats. Steph Curry has more assists and a less turnover ratio.


Also, for Harden he is only averaging .3 more blocks than Curry. So I'm sorry but you can't use that as an argument when it's only .3 more blocks. I'm sorry but that's not an argument. A guards job is not to blocks shots anyways. Did you know that most of the time jump shots are not contested? And guards guard a lot of jump shooters. Did you know that?



And you even said yourself that Steph is right there with Harden in rebounds. So basically now you can't win in statistical advantage except for more points and more shots, so you you allude to the PER stats and try to nit pick whatever you could find. But the difference is that Curry beats Harden by a lot in the stats that he does win and they are pretty even in the stats that Harden leads, such as blocked shots. And you know that too. Just go look at the stats. Here is Hardens... http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/3992/james-harden

Here is Currys http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/3975/stephen-curry



Whoah, a man of your intelligence is going to use Shot Attempts? Even though it doesn't really help the team considering his field goal percentage is so low, but I will forgive you for that. And no the few extra free throws don't justify his inefficiency. BTW, Curry has a much higher free throw percentage. Did you know Curry shoots just under 90 percent from the line? Harden shoots well too, but there is still a 5 percent difference. 5 percent does add up because that is 5 shots for every 100.


Now Steph Curry is averaging 45 percent from downtown. Harden is averaging 32 percent from downtown. That's a 13 percent difference. There is simply no comparison. Also Curry has made the 2nd most threes in the entire NBA. Did you know that a three pointer is worth much more than a regular field goal?


So at the end of the day every single stat you threw at me, I threw it around and as you can see Harden doesn't have much on Curry, but the things Curry has over Harden, he owns Harden. And at the end of the day Curry's play has led to wins, while Harden simply is taking much more shots than compared to the Thunder where he was the 3rd option and it has not culminated into very many wins. The Thunder are actually in the 9th seed the last time I checked.



Harden has been a pretty good scorer. But Curry's play has been unprecedented. That is why the Warriors are winning with him as their number 1 scoring option. And btw you are the same person that said Jack and Landry were nothing close to the 6th men of the year. Now that you are trying to find excuses so you could justify your argument with me, you become a hypocrite.


Curry deserves an all star, James Harden does not.


So when Harden is shooting 40 percent from threes and hitting 3 a game, while still holding his field goal percentage on a winning team, then give me a shout. After all, he's so dominant right? I just gave you all the cold hard stat facts (not to mention were winning) and proved everything against you right. You wanna freestyle about this?

Kiddlovesnets
01-25-2013, 03:30 AM
No nets players make all star reserves, I hope the players find motivation from this and play hard. The difference between Avery Johnson and PJ Carlesimo has been mostly players attitude change. If the Nets play with efforts, they can beat any teams, perhaps except for the Heat and Spurs.

SacJB Shady
01-25-2013, 03:46 AM
No nets players make all star reserves, I hope the players find motivation from this and play hard. The difference between Avery Johnson and PJ Carlesimo has been mostly players attitude change. If the Nets play with efforts, they can beat any teams, perhaps except for the Heat and Spurs.


Kiddlovensnets, I am with you. The Nets should have had an all star, maybe Brook Lopez. They are one of the top teams in the East. It's blasphemous how Boston, Cleveland, and the 76ers could land all stars while you cannot.

gabepizza
01-25-2013, 03:49 AM
So Bulls at 25-16 get 2 all-stars
Nets at 26-16 get 0 all-stars.

Deng 17.4 and 6.4
Lopez 18.6 and 7.5

So it's not because of record or stats so it's it's either
1. Bulls getting to much respect
2. Nets getting too little respect
3. Or it might be that once a player is selected for an all-star once coaches like to choose the same players over and over if they can. This explains why Joe Johnson was a 6X all-star.

Biggest snub Deng instead of Lopez.

I know Jordan was a Bull but that does not mean the league has to market the Bulls 10 years after he retired.

Kiddlovesnets
01-25-2013, 03:50 AM
Kiddlovensnets, I am with you. The Nets should have had an all star, maybe Brook Lopez. They are one of the top teams in the East. It's blasphemous how Boston, Cleveland, and the 76ers could land all stars while you cannot.

Well Id say part of the reason is that every Nets player makes sacrifices to build up chemistry and a working team. Imagine Lopez, Johnson or Deron injured, the other two would instantly be putting up all-star numbers and make it to the allstar weekend. When you have this many weapons, you've gotta find a way to have everyone involved.

On the other hand, the fact that the Nets played like trash during Avery Johnson era drags everyone down. Joe Johnson is averaging 20ppg since Carlesimo became head coach, Deron's production also has increased by 30% or more. Perhaps the timing of firing Avery Johnson was already a little too late.
:sleeping

Kiddlovesnets
01-25-2013, 03:52 AM
So Bulls at 25-16 get 2 all-stars
Nets at 26-16 get 0 all-stars.

Deng 17.4 and 6.4
Lopez 18.6 and 7.5

So it's not because of record or stats so it's it's either
1. Bulls getting to much respect
2. Nets getting too little respect
3. Or it might be that once a player is selected for an all-star once coaches like to choose the same players over and over if they can. This explains why Joe Johnson was a 6X all-star.

Biggest snub Deng instead of Lopez.

I know Jordan was a Bull but that does not mean the league has to market the Bulls 10 years after he retired.

Actually I like the fact that the Nets get underrated, its good for the team to hide behind the spotlight so that no one makes a big deal about a nets loss.

SacJB Shady
01-25-2013, 06:13 AM
I'm hoping we get an opening

* Chris Paul has a bruised knee cap
* Griffin just had a minor ankle sprain
* Howard has dealt with shoulder pain
* Duncan's knee is sore and last month said he didn't want to play in the all star game
* Popavich is known for resting his guys. Maybe he tells Tony to take a break.

So out of all these possibilities, you got some chances. It could happen. There is still hope for Stephen Curry. Steph is an all star in many of our hearts. He is also David Lee's partner in crime, as quoted by Mr. Lee numerous times in the last 24 hours. Could you imagine what detrimental affects this could have on Stephen's confidence? Criminal. It would only be right that Lee's best buddy comes along with him and plays in the all star game.
:bowdown:

SacJB Shady
01-25-2013, 06:51 AM
My friend said that he thinks the reason Curry didn't make it is because he felt Curry is young. He thinks that they want to give it to older players who may have their last shot at an all star.

Wavves
01-25-2013, 06:57 AM
My friend said that he thinks the reason Curry didn't make it is because he felt Curry is young. He thinks that they want to give it to older players who may have their last shot at an all star.

Shut the **** up you unappreciative ****. You complain about how you were never going to get an all-star, you get one, and now you complain. Ctrl+alt+delete your life

Toizumi
01-25-2013, 06:58 AM
Aldridge making it is ridiculous. The guy is a great shooter, but he's truly nothing special. He's not a great rebounder, defender or post finisher and he's not the leader of this team. Lillard has taken on the leadership role and he's getting Aldridge his shots. Really bad pick by the coaches in my opinion.

All Net
01-25-2013, 07:00 AM
Happy to see boozer and lee get in.

SacJB Shady
01-25-2013, 07:06 AM
Aldridge making it is ridiculous. The guy is a great shooter, but he's truly nothing special. He's not a great rebounder, defender or post finisher and he's not the leader of this team. Lillard has taken on the leadership role and he's getting Aldridge his shots. Really bad pick by the coaches in my opinion.


It takes a real man to admit the truth when you are a blazers fan. What's right is right. In fact to be honest I wouldn't have been mad if Lillard made it instead because you said that.

All Net
01-25-2013, 07:09 AM
Lillard was more deserving than Aldridge..

SacJB Shady
01-25-2013, 07:14 AM
Shut the **** up you unappreciative ****. You complain about how you were never going to get an all-star, you get one, and now you complain. Ctrl+alt+delete your life


It has been 16 years since the Warriors had an all star. And they had to give us this bittersweet day? Yes, this bittersweet and ambivalent celebration!!!! 16 years and they only give us an all star because they felt obligated to but also landed us the biggest all star snub! Congratulations coaches! Coach Jackson, the preacher is very distraught! I am distraught as well! It's not acceptable however you slice it! Like Carl Landry said, the players should be the ones voting, not the coaches!!!! Now with Howard and Paul and Duncan nursing some minor injuries, if the basketball gods have our back, justice will prevail and Steph Curry will join his best friend David Lee in the Houston All Star Game. That's just the way it is.

Wavves
01-25-2013, 07:29 AM
It has been 16 years since the Warriors had an all star. And they had to give us this bittersweet day? Yes, this bittersweet and ambivalent celebration!!!! 16 years and they only give us an all star because they felt obligated to but also landed us the biggest all star snub! Congratulations coaches! Coach Jackson, the preacher is very distraught! I am distraught as well! It's not acceptable however you slice it! Like Carl Landry said, the players should be the ones voting, not the coaches!!!! Now with Howard and Paul and Duncan nursing some minor injuries, if the basketball gods have our back, justice will prevail and Steph Curry will join his best friend David Lee in the Houston All Star Game. That's just the way it is.

Be happy that the drought is over then and stop complaining that a borderline all-star didn't make it. If you are so sure about players pulling out because of injury, opening a spot for Curry to get in, why are still complaining?

9512
01-25-2013, 07:30 AM
So Bulls at 25-16 get 2 all-stars
Nets at 26-16 get 0 all-stars.

Deng 17.4 and 6.4
Lopez 18.6 and 7.5

So it's not because of record or stats so it's it's either
1. Bulls getting to much respect
2. Nets getting too little respect
3. Or it might be that once a player is selected for an all-star once coaches like to choose the same players over and over if they can. This explains why Joe Johnson was a 6X all-star.

Biggest snub Deng instead of Lopez.

I know Jordan was a Bull but that does not mean the league has to market the Bulls 10 years after he retired.

So true. Even if Steve Nash led the league in assists last year with the Suns' record out of playoff contention, he was still selected.

And Noah making the team. Omer Asik's numbers are somewhat close and he doesn't even get mentioned in any discussions.

Wavves
01-25-2013, 07:34 AM
So true. Even if Steve Nash led the league in assists last year with the Suns' record out of playoff contention, he was still selected.

And Noah making the team. Omer Asik's numbers are somewhat close and he doesn't even get mentioned in any discussions.

If you actually watched Noah play, you would understand why he was selected and how much better of a player he is compared to Asik, and that's no disrespect to Asik.

BoutPractice
01-25-2013, 07:37 AM
I'd say Curry, Lopez and Smith were snubbed.
Smith is probably the greatest player in the current league to have never made the All-Star game.

SacJB Shady
01-25-2013, 09:04 AM
We got our first all star pick in a while, sixteen years
But it came with a twist I got a smile, mixed with tears
Like Carl Landry tweeted in his Twitter
It's sweet, but feels bittersweet. Or sweet n bitter
Our emotions are mixed, I feel ambivalent
The rosters were fixed, this was the equivalent
of giving that center spot to D twelve
Even though we got our first since Latrell Sprewell
Steph should been there, we needed help! coaches, go seek hell!
I'm so pissed off, I won't sleep well
but we the only team that gave the Clippers THREE L'S HELL YEA :applause: :cheers:
I know Curry was left off by Viny Del
Neegro!! :lol

I think the coaches picks are full of nonsense
You really got to question the voting process
The last person to reward would be Lamarcus Aldridge :no: :eek:

Really wished stern woulda stopped this
I'm headin to Houston and getting ON THIS
He didn't deserve it, were 26-15 we earned it
Where is Stephen Curry?
And while Sir Charles on TNT blasting they ass
Coach Jackson stays preaching showing some class
Time for coach jackson to go Doctor Martin Luther King
stating that this wasn't the right thing for the league
I mean, he's Stickin up for his boys Curry and D Lee
honestly Lee shoulda started with CP3
We got one all star but Jackson said 2 all stars woulda been right
Coach Jackson said 4 lack of better word this was a Crime (he actually did)
I guess it just wasn't time, the coaches should all get penalized
Coaches what is wrong with you? Do you know about the wild card selection?
Choose players on a winning team not the ones off to a mild start choose Stephen!
Oh that's right cuz in the East 500 is a good record
Lamarcus had a horrid shooting percentage while Curry was better
Just brainstorming what Im gonna write to the NBA in my letter

InspiredLebowski
01-25-2013, 10:36 AM
Paul George is the first and only, so far, All Star from the 2010 draft class. Thanks for taking Aminu and Hayward LA and Utah.

nightprowler10
01-25-2013, 11:17 AM
If you actually watched Noah play, you would understand why he was selected and how much better of a player he is compared to Asik, and that's no disrespect to Asik.
I love Asik but Noah is beasting this year. He is the bulls' leader in Rose's absence.

nightprowler10
01-25-2013, 11:17 AM
Paul George is the first and only, so far, All Star from the 2010 draft class. Thanks for taking Aminu and Hayward LA and Utah.
I'm a fan of his. Ridiculous potential IMO.

alenleomessi
01-25-2013, 12:19 PM
Paul George is the first and only, so far, All Star from the 2010 draft class. Thanks for taking Aminu and Hayward LA and Utah.
who could have expected george to become all star before wall and cousins huh?!

goldenryan
01-25-2013, 12:43 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BBbO6i7CEAAFsGU.jpg

gabepizza
01-25-2013, 12:53 PM
More to players being selected once having an advantage.

Why Aldridge over Jefferson? Utah has a better record.

All Net
01-25-2013, 01:34 PM
I love Asik but Noah is beasting this year. He is the bulls' leader in Rose's absence.

Noah has been great in all areas..kind of player every team needs.

Whoah10115
01-25-2013, 01:35 PM
More to players being selected once having an advantage.

Why Aldridge over Jefferson? Utah has a better record.



Aldridge is playing better than Jefferson.

SilkkTheShocker
01-25-2013, 01:37 PM
Maybe he deserved it, but not over other players with better records. Lot of people have shitty teammates, that ain't an excuse. Jennings is above .500 with similar one dimensional teammates.

Yea I am mad Kyrie is gonna lead his team to lottery for the next 5 years while Westbrook is in the Finals. I am scared shitless. :oldlol:


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mHka-GDtt7o/UEyqlEIkW0I/AAAAAAAACwk/IIEVgYa73Ok/s320/will-smith-deal-with-it.gif

Deal with it.

and lmao at you talking about the Finals. Yes, Im sure he will be back in the Finals to take it up the a.ss again from Miami. Lets see Wesbrick takeover the Cavs :oldlol:

SilkkTheShocker
01-25-2013, 01:40 PM
Yea I will wait for your fantasy predictions, the day Cavs get a decent team will be the day they move out of Cleveland. Nobody wants to play in that black hole.

The team you root for plays in Oklahoma City. OKC makes Cleveland look like Paris :oldlol: As soon as KD leaves there won't be a soul that wants to be play there

Whoah10115
01-25-2013, 01:42 PM
So Bulls at 25-16 get 2 all-stars
Nets at 26-16 get 0 all-stars.

Deng 17.4 and 6.4
Lopez 18.6 and 7.5




Chandler, Noah, Bosh made the list. Two centers and three guys who are playing center, plus Garnett as the starter. That's why Lopez didn't make it. Why Chandler (who I think is deserving) or Bosh (who is the least deserving) are making it ahead of Lopez, is something else. But Deng deserves it more than Bosh and he's not the one taking Lopez's spot.



Aldridge making it is ridiculous. The guy is a great shooter, but he's truly nothing special. He's not a great rebounder, defender or post finisher and he's not the leader of this team. Lillard has taken on the leadership role and he's getting Aldridge his shots. Really bad pick by the coaches in my opinion.


I know you're a Blazers fan, but you're still wrong. He's a good defender, the offense still runs thru him a lot, and he's a great player. Lillard is not the team's best player this season.





And Noah making the team. Omer Asik's numbers are somewhat close and he doesn't even get mentioned in any discussions.



Does Asik average 4APG? He's not the DPOTY either.

TylerOO
01-25-2013, 02:36 PM
So many ****ing crybabies in this thread :roll:

BuffaloBill
01-25-2013, 04:50 PM
Noah should be starting :mad:

SacJB Shady
01-25-2013, 06:00 PM
Omar Asik deserved it as much as Howard. Similar rebounds, higher winning percentage, better teammate. Trust me if Omar Asik was averaging 17 pts like howard, he still wouldn't be an all star.

9512
01-25-2013, 06:17 PM
Does Asik average 4APG? He's not the DPOTY either.

No but his offensive game is better.

I am a hater of Noah I admit. I hate the French so therefore I hate his @ss. Tony Parker is okay though.

I wanted Asik in the ASG over Noah as if to say, Europe didn't let Turkey into the euro zone so therefore Noah can't make the AST.