Does pistol pete have a case over wade all time

[BrickingStar]

Yes or no. It seems a knick's fan thinks it's debatable and is certain pistol pete is better than wade all time. He wants to compare a choker to a champ.

[DaSeba5]

Just the question alone.... :lol

[Pacers4ever]

No and that guy is a ****ing retarded

[kNicKz]

OP

http://media.heavy.com/media/2010/07/pruane2.jpg

omg, gona pwn him!!

[Pacers4ever]

ME
http://media.heavy.com/media/2010/07/pruane2.jpg

omg, gona pwn him!!
fify. So why is pistol pete better than wade?

[red1]

What type of dumbass would it take to even ask this question. Wade is better than pete for sure. This type of stupidity seems like something only a knicks fan could conjure up

[DaSeba5]

What type of dumbass would it take to even ask this as a question. Wade is better than pete for sure. This type of stupidity seems like something only a knicks fan could conjure up

I thought a lot of Knick fans were stupid, but he takes the cake.

The only argument he can muster is to call me a bandwagon Canes fan. I'm done. :roll:

[AlonzoGOAT]

Pistol Pete has absolutely no argument over Wade and kNicKz is a proven wade hater on drugs

[kNicKz]

This type of stupidity seems like something only a knicks fan could conjure up

Bro, why do you keep bringing up the knicks? When is the last time the raptors have even been in the playoffs? I know you're a closet heat fan but honestly, check your other team :roll: Bargnani #1 pick :bowdown:

[kNicKz]

The only argument he can muster is to call me a bandwagon Canes fan. I'm done. :roll:


I posted multiple points in the other thread with the response of "lol...knicks got rocked in the playoffs....pwnt"

[BrickingStar]

Bro, why do you keep bringing up the knicks? When is the last time the raptors have even been in the playoffs? I know you're a closet heat fan but honestly, check your other team :roll: Bargnani #1 pick :bowdown:
THE RAPTORS HAVE WON MORE PLAYOFF GAMES THAN THE KNICKS IN THE LAST DECADE :lol

[kNicKz]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c7/Toronto_Raptors_1995-2008_.svg

all the raptors got going for them is this criss ass logo

[DaSeba5]

I posted multiple points in the other thread with the response of "lol...knicks got rocked in the playoffs....pwnt"

You tried to act like the Knicks own the Heat in recent years. You tried to compare the Knicks to the defending champs who have been a very successful playoff team the last decade to a team with 1 playoff win in a long time. Even when you said the Knicks blew out the Heat twice this year, the Heat still own the #1 spot because your team isn't shooting lights out anymore. You lost just about every argument.

[red1]

Bro, why do you keep bringing up the knicks? When is the last time the raptors have even been in the playoffs? I know you're a closet heat fan but honestly, check your other team :roll: Bargnani #1 pick :bowdown:
Raptors havent been in the playoffs since 2008. Doesnt mean you arent a f*gg*t.

[AlonzoGOAT]

THE RAPTORS HAVE WON MORE PLAYOFF GAMES THAN THE KNICKS IN THE LAST DECADE :lol
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ZWQ3YOMtJaM/UEsnJKgjdkI/AAAAAAAACo0/miO-N7XEaFA/s320/black-kid-oh-snap.gif

[DaSeba5]

THE RAPTORS HAVE WON MORE PLAYOFF GAMES THAN THE KNICKS IN THE LAST DECADE :lol

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

This is too much. I'm in tears.

[kNicKz]

Raptors havent been in the playoffs since 2008.


:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[fpliii]

The Pistol over Wade? I don't think there's a case that can be made to support that claim.

If someone can supply ample objective evidence, and frame his argument in a convincing fashion, it would be extremely impressive.

[red1]

THE RAPTORS HAVE WON MORE PLAYOFF GAMES THAN THE KNICKS IN THE LAST DECADE :lol
:lol

[AlonzoGOAT]

Wait why is a knick's fan talking shit about other team's playoff history anyway :wtf: :lol

[red1]

Oh man knickz lol. Headache tonight knickzie?

[kNicKz]

You tried to act like the Knicks own the Heat in recent years. You tried to compare the Knicks to the defending champs who have been a very successful playoff team the last decade to a team with 1 playoff win in a long time. Even when you said the Knicks blew out the Heat twice this year, the Heat still own the #1 spot because your team isn't shooting lights out anymore. You lost just about every argument.

recent years? I made it pretty clear that I was talking about the 90s

I did compare them to the defending champs, because the knicks are #2 in the conference and have swept the heat so far this season.

We don't have Felton, and we are getting shumpert and amare back in our rotation. That explains a couple losses for us...

I can get the disagreements, but when you act like the knicks aren't even in the discussion its like... get the **** out


I don't care about the past. The knicks are here and are about it this year

[DaSeba5]

Wait why is a knick's fan talking shit about other team's playoff history anyway :wtf: :lol

He said the Knicks kept the Heat in the cellar for 10+ years, and then posted a picture of ECF banners lol.

I mean you can't make this up :lol

[kNicKz]

Oh man knickz lol. Headache tonight knickzie?

2008

[BrickingStar]

The Pistol over Wade? I don't think there's a case that can be made to support that claim.

If someone can supply ample objective evidence, and frame his argument in a convincing fashion, it would be extremely impressive.
So far all he's come up with is an outdated article. by mark jackson
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/04/jackson-says-reggie-miller-is-third-best-shooting-guard-ever/

Then he was ethered by a more recent article that says mark jackson is stating wade is the 3rd est shooting guard ever :lol

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/mark-jackson-says-dwyane-wade-is-third-best-shooting-guard-ever/

[kNicKz]

He said the Knicks kept the Heat in the cellar for 10+ years, and then posted a picture of ECF banners lol.



The Heat didn't get further than the knicks for 10+ years....what is not to understand about that...

[DaSeba5]

recent years? I made it pretty clear that I was talking about the 90s

I did compare them to the defending champs, because the knicks are #2 in the conference and have swept the heat so far this season.

We don't have Felton, and we are getting shumpert and amare back in our rotation. That explains a couple losses for us...

I can get the disagreements, but when you act like the knicks aren't even in the discussion its like... get the **** out


I don't care about the past. The knicks are here and are about it this year

Boston and Chicago has bragging rights over the Heat..... in the regular season. The Knicks were shooting way above their averages. They cooled off and their defense hasn't been the same. They are a solid team, but you have proven nothing to expect people to say the Knicks are here. They have proven nada.

[red1]

He said the Knicks kept the Heat in the cellar for 10+ years, and then posted a picture of ECF banners lol.

I mean you can't make this up :lol
I swear to god I was laughing so hard IRL that I hurt something in my ribs

[red1]

2008
To be honest I dont find that too bad since 2008 was pretty recent. You gotta rebuild you know

[BrickingStar]

Boston and Chicago has bragging rights over the Heat..... in the regular season. The Knicks were shooting way above their averages. They cooled off and their defense hasn't been the same. They are a solid team, but you have proven nothing to expect people to say the Knicks are here. They have proven nada.
this. Just more delusional knicks fans taking the regular season seriously in which aren't even better than the heat in the east. Sounds like last year :lol

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=260447

[kNicKz]

I swear to god I was laughing so hard IRL that I hurt something in my ribs

Getting worked up over a message board laughing about the knicks. When your part time team (raptors, not heat for this instance) are 16-27 and haven't been in the playoffs since 2008 with a #1 pick on their team :roll:

[DaSeba5]

The Heat didn't get further than the knicks for 10+ years....what is not to understand about that...

The Heat are an expansion team. They didn't get things going until Riley came there in the mid 90s. There's really nothing to brag about there. Nobody expected them to get farther than the Knicks who had success in the 90s until the late 90s where the series could go either way. Miami was just happy to have a team for their first couple of years.

[kNicKz]

http://hdwallpapersbackgrounds.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Dude-Andrea-Bargnani-Pictures.jpg

[BrickingStar]

Getting worked up over a message board laughing about the knicks. When your part time team (raptors, not heat for this instance) are 16-27 and haven't been in the playoffs since 2008 with a #1 pick on their team :roll:
does that even matter? They have more playoff success than you in the last 10 years :roll: :roll:

[red1]

Getting worked up over a message board laughing about the knicks. When your part time team (raptors, not heat for this instance) are 16-27 and haven't been in the playoffs since 2008 with a #1 pick on their team :roll:
You are too funny bro, lmao :lol

[fpliii]

So far all he's come up with is an outdated article. by mark jackson
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/04/jackson-says-reggie-miller-is-third-best-shooting-guard-ever/

Then he was ethered by a more recent article that says mark jackson is stating wade is the 3rd est shooting guard ever :lol

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/mark-jackson-says-dwyane-wade-is-third-best-shooting-guard-ever/

Damn.

If he's going to try and put together a legitimate argument, it'd be an interesting read. Gotta check your sources though to prevent this from happening. Anyhow, wouldn't Jackson be a bit biased since they played together? Putting Reggie at 3 is insane.

[shady6121]

THE RAPTORS HAVE WON MORE PLAYOFF GAMES THAN THE KNICKS IN THE LAST DECADE :lol

I'm a Knicks fan, but that's hilarious. :lol

[BrickingStar]

You are too funny bro, lmao :lol
Trying to ignore the subject by dogging a team that has had better playoff success than his team and not stating any actually noteworthy argument for pete over wade

[BrickingStar]

Damn.

If he's going to try and put together a legitimate argument, it'd be an interesting read. Gotta check your sources though to prevent this from happening. Anyhow, wouldn't Jackson be a bit biased since they played together? Putting Reggie at 3 is insane.
Yep. It's that same kind of biased this knicks fan has to try to put pete over wade.

[kNicKz]

http://www.wearingfilm.com/picketfence/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/oly_a_calderson1_sw_sq_300.jpg

all time assist leader :roll:

[fpliii]

Yep. It's that same kind of biased this knicks fan has to try to put pete over wade.

He has to be trolling though, I don't think he sincerely believes that the Pistol>Wade.

[red1]

Yep. It's that same kind of biased this knicks fan has to try to put pete over wade.
I didnt even shit talk his team I was only laughing at him and how weak he came every single time. "You guys didnt win shit" "Posts eastern conference banners like they are championship banners." LMAO

[red1]

He has to be trolling though, I don't think he sincerely believes that the Pistol>Wade.
bro he is dead serious, and its not just the fact that thinks pete is better than wade, this is what he actually posted


SUREEEE wade is better than pistol was

:facepalm :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[kNicKz]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/af50bb0836a7cd780961363183ee416b/tumblr_mh1xdePszj1s2lf81o1_r4_500.jpg

historical raptors moment :roll:

[red1]

This kid is so mad lmao. You get mind raped or what buddy :lol

[DaSeba5]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/af50bb0836a7cd780961363183ee416b/tumblr_mh1xdePszj1s2lf81o1_r4_500.jpg

historical raptors moment :roll:

Oh God the last thing we need is the Kobe tards to come in here. That would be icing on the cake. :roll:

[BrickingStar]

He has to be trolling though, I don't think he sincerely believes that the Pistol>Wade.
I found you some gems.

Wade's career averages

25.2 PPG

6.2 APG

5.1 RPG

.486% FG



Pistol Pete

24.2 PPG

5.4 APG

4.2 RPG

.441% <---- with old school defense

In an era dominated by big men, pistol pete put up slightly lower stats than wade did in a league with rule changes designed for guards to succeed...you're acting like I compared him to **** ing Nick Young. Pistol is a legend....not sure what anyone is laughing about

no 3 pointers

no shaq or lebron

harder rules

yeah, no arguments....
Notice in the first quote he used inferior regular season averages and never discussed pistols horrid playoff history. Of course he takes regular season a lot more seriously as a knicks fan.

He also posted this pos article DIGGING through google http://www.hoopsvibe.com/features/breaking-down-the-nba/169957-top-10-shooting-guards-of-all-time

[kNicKz]

http://i734.photobucket.com/albums/ww345/efad1/craptors.gif

[red1]

He cant back up any of his statements so all he does now is get angry at me for calling him out LMAO. You killed me tonight bro, thanks for all of the laughs :roll:

[BrickingStar]

This kid is so mad lmao. You get mind raped or what buddy :lol
He was destroyed and has ignore the subject after getting exposed. He can't make any decent arguments for pete > wade

[red1]

SUREEEE wade is better than pistol was

:facepalm :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
LOL

[kNicKz]

He can't make any decent arguements for wade > pete :roll:

Because I argued the opposite ? :facepalm

[BrickingStar]

Because I argued the opposite ? :facepalm
My bad type what was that argument again?

[DaSeba5]

Because I argued the opposite ? :facepalm

You didn't bring up any good arguments to the table. I think your opinion is absurd, but I'd at least listen to it if you had a credible argument for it. You didn't.

Then it turned into a Heat Vs Knicks thing, and again you couldn't come up with a credible argument except ECF banners.

[kNicKz]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/b7c19085c28f4642b40270780294df8e/tumblr_mgh33n8HNR1qm9rypo1_1280.jpg

[BrickingStar]

LOL
At least his boy melo has something in comparison with the best player in the league right now.

They can lift things with both arms

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lk7w4hMpg71qhqjevo1_400.jpg


http://www.fastestlane.info/article_images/scott-rabb-on-toucher-amp-rich-i-m-alright-with-lebron-winning.jpg

[red1]

cb :pimp:

[BrickingStar]

You didn't bring up any good arguments to the table. I think your opinion is absurd, but I'd at least listen to it if you had a credible argument for it. You didn't.

Then it turned into a Heat Vs Knicks thing, and again you couldn't come up with a credible argument except ECF banners.
all he can post about now is a superior playoff team like the raptors over his knicks. He was exposed and won't touch the subject again :lol

[Pacers4ever]

At least his boy melo has something in comparison with the best player in the league right now.

They can lift things with both arms

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lk7w4hMpg71qhqjevo1_400.jpg


http://www.fastestlane.info/article_images/scott-rabb-on-toucher-amp-rich-i-m-alright-with-lebron-winning.jpg
Spat my drink out :lol :lol :lol :lol

[kNicKz]

Saying the raptors are better right now in the playoffs is just trolling

[red1]

You didn't bring up any good arguments to the table. I think your opinion is absurd, but I'd at least listen to it if you had a credible argument for it. You didn't.

Then it turned into a Heat Vs Knicks thing, and again you couldn't come up with a credible argument except ECF banners.
LMAO that was gold

[kNicKz]

http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/lebron-james-to-the-wnba.jpg

[Pacers4ever]

Saying the raptors are better right now in the playoffs is just trolling
past decade playoff success says other wise but you know what is trolling? Saying pete > wade. Glad you accepted you were wrong tho

[fpliii]

I found you some gems.


Notice he used inferior regular season averages and never discussed pistols horrid playoff history. Of course he takes regular season a lot more seriously as a knicks fan.

Wow...

I haven't dealt with him much (we got into a bit in a thread about Melo iirc), but he needs to do a much better job if he wants to convince anybody (finding evidence that supports his claim would be a start).

I don't want to pile on, but it seems to be a trend with Knicks fans. I'm from the NYC area, and basketball is a distant third here after baseball and football (from what I understand, back in the 70s when the Knicks were great and the Nets were dominating the ABA, people were pretty hardcore). Rarely will you find someone here whose favorite league is the NBA.

The resurgence that began when Amar'e signed as a free agent is definitely good for the sport (and it makes for good conversation; my buddies from college love basketball but all of my family/friends from home are casuals at best with regards to basketball). The problem though, is that most Knicks fans I know from here jumped on the bandwagon recently, and don't have a great grasp of the sport of basketball/the league/players/history/etc. I'd call it homerism, but with the new generation of fans it's rather some brand of delusion/willful ignorance, expressed in a passive-aggressive fashion.

Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with the fanbase (new or old) by and large. This is just how I see it as an 'outsider' (I don't have a team per se, but I'll root for the Nets/Knicks since they're local teams; similarly, I'll pull for the Warriors since I went to school in the Bay Area...I'm just too detached to be considered a fan of any of the three), viewing the phenomenon from the inside.

[red1]

Saying the raptors are better right now in the playoffs is just trolling
this is how we know you lost, all you can do is talk about the raptors when you realized you could no longer back this up


SUREEEE wade is better than pistol was

:facepalm :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Wade over Gervin, Iverson, Havlicek?!?!?

This shit is out of hand. This wade movement needs to slow down, this is getting on the line of blasphemous.

LOL dumbass :roll:

[shady6121]

Originally Posted by kNicKz
SUREEEE wade is better than pistol was

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0

[BrickingStar]

Wow...

I haven't dealt with him much (we got into a bit in a thread about Melo iirc), but he needs to do a much better job if he wants to convince anybody (finding evidence that supports his claim would be a start).

I don't want to pile on, but it seems to be a trend with Knicks fans. I'm from the NYC area, and basketball is a distant third here after baseball and football (from what I understand, back in the 70s when the Knicks were great and the Nets were dominating the ABA, people were pretty hardcore). Rarely will you find someone here whose favorite league is the NBA.

The resurgence that began when Amar'e signed as a free agent is definitely good for the sport (and it makes for good conversation; my buddies from college love basketball but all of my family/friends from home are casuals at best with regards to basketball). The problem though, is that most Knicks fans I know from here jumped on the bandwagon recently, and don't have a great grasp of the sport of basketball/the league/players/history/etc. I'd call it homerism, but with the new generation of fans it's rather some brand of delusion/willful ignorance, expressed in a passive-aggressive fashion.

Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with the fanbase (new or old) by and large. This is just how I see it as an 'outsider' (I don't have a team per se, but I'll root for the Nets/Knicks since they're local teams; similarly, I'll pull for the Warriors since I went to school in the Bay Area...I'm just too detached to be considered a fan of any of the three), viewing the phenomenon from the inside.
That's a good observation and you're probably right. But I'm not sure being a bandwagon fan warrants making claims like pete over wade. That's more like being a hater of a rival team. He can just look at footage and tell who was the better player and even though stats don't tell that whole story he can look at them as well, especially the post season stats. But yeah it has to be hate because you won't find anywhere unless you dig deep in google for retarded articles like he did to make such claims or even get the idea pete was a better player than wade. Career wise and individual player.. wade was better. No idea how he came up with the idea pete was better all time. Not even casual knicks fans should know who mr pete was or why they would even care for a player like him.

[BrickingStar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0
Damn that insult could do damage physically to the body :eek: :lol

[kNicKz]

]all you can do is talk about the raptors when you realized you could no longer back this up






All you did was talk about the knicks so how else am I supposed to respond?

[red1]

All you did was talk about the knicks so how else am I supposed to respond?
I didnt even say shit about the knicks. I said only a knick fan would post something as stupid as pete>wade and that was clearly a lame shot at you. Dumbass

[kNicKz]

ok.....

[DaSeba5]

All you did was talk about the knicks so how else am I supposed to respond?

You started it when you said "the knicks kept the heat in the cellar for 10+ years"

You get owned, then you start complaining that we're talking about the Knicks too much. If you actually gave a credible argument for Pete being better than Wade, nobody would have attacked you for being a Knicks fan. You made yourself an easy target.

[kNicKz]

The knicks owned the heat for 10+ years

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2z47fGPTm1qa6mbo.gif

[DaSeba5]

The knicks owned the heat for 10+ years

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2z47fGPTm1qa6mbo.gif

If you're going to make posts like this, why are you getting butt hurt when people trash the Knicks?

[Lebron23]

No chance in hell. Allen Iverson >> Pistol Pete Maravich. Wade is arguably the 3rd greatest SG of all time.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

THE RAPTORS HAVE WON MORE PLAYOFF GAMES THAN THE KNICKS IN THE LAST DECADE :lol
:applause:

[Hank]

What totally goes over people's heads is the fact that in 6 of the 8 playoff series the Heat have played since the Big 3 formed, the opposing coaches of those series' have chosen to double Wade.

And in a 7th series of the 8, Wade was doubled half the time in the 7th one as well (to go along with Wade being doubled fulltime in 6 other playoff series since the 2011 playoffs began).

www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-VzBeOrdAg

^^ listen to the announcer at the beginning in what was one of Lebron's biggest playoff games with Miami,, the doubling of Wade was prevalent in 6.5 of the 8 playoff series' over the past 2 playoffs, WADE DOUBLE TEAMED THROUGHOUT those 6+ series (and this is well documented with sources all over the place). So do some of you even know what you're watching ? Do you even understand anything about this sport, before rambling on about things that go way over your head & have no clue about..

This is with Lebron on his team. Over and over again starting from the first 2011 series against the 76ers with Doug Collins stating the guy that scares them is Wade and said he will make sure Wade's always doubled, has been the MO from opposing coaches through and through. Opposing coaches aren't dumb, they know who's lethal when it really counts. Wade owns the 2 best PER series performances in NBA Finals history for damn good reasons

[TheBigVeto]

Yep for sure.

Pistol never got supported by the commish and yet he was relatively successful.

[La Frescobaldi]

Yes or no. It seems a knick's fan thinks it's debatable and is certain pistol pete is better than wade all time. He wants to compare a choker to a champ.

'76 Jazz
11 Ron Behagen
45 Henry Bibby
4 Freddie Boyd
12 E.C. Coleman
31 Mel Counts
23 Aaron James
53 Rich Kelley
7 Pete Maravich
33 Jim McElroy
34 Otto Moore
14 Louie Nelson
15 Bud Stallworth
22 Nate Williams

OP tell me you know the guys on Pete's all-time great New Orleans Jazz. No. Just tell me you ever heard of even one single guy on that team but Pistol.

You may have heard of Mike Bibby's dad which is Henry. But based on your post.... have you heard of Mike Bibby?

I can think of a lot of guys that would "choke" on that team. Want me to list some guys that would choke with that team? Dwyane Wade would be at the top of the list.

[Kovach]

Of course not. Stats, accolades, and approx 20 minutes of Pistol Pete footage that exists do not lie.

[DMV2]

THE RAPTORS HAVE WON MORE PLAYOFF GAMES THAN THE KNICKS IN THE LAST DECADE :lol
:roll:

[Whoah10115]

This is an incredible question.


Pistol Pete should not be in the top 10 but he's ahead of Dwyane Wade? No, he is not. There is no comparing, at any point in time, Pete Maravich to Dwyane Wade.


Wade is a lot better.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Pistol Pete never won a damn thing. His teammates also hated playing with because he was such a ball hog. The guy was the patron saint of empty stats.

[DCL]

how many people here have actually seen pistol pete play??

[Legends66NBA7]

Bro, why do you keep bringing up the knicks? When is the last time the raptors have even been in the playoffs? I know you're a closet heat fan but honestly, check your other team :roll: Bargnani #1 pick :bowdown:

Well, the tune sure did change.

[TheCorporation]

What type of dumbass would it take to even ask this question. Wade is better than pete for sure. This type of stupidity seems like something only a knicks fan could conjure up

:lol :lol

[AngelEyes]

I used to love Wade and now I ****ing hate that chipmunk faced assclown, but no, Pistol has no case over Wade.

[Young X]

Knicks fans are pathetic.