Kobe's Still the Best in the World.... [Archive] - Message Board Basketball Forum

red1

01-27-2013, 07:57 PM

Yes Lebron was the best when the mavs bench was out scoring him in the finals:roll:
Or when his 66 win team got bounced out of the playoffs:lol

U been in a coma?
honestly bronzy impresses me more than any other player I have seen in the last 10 years+. shaq and kobe are runners up with honorable mentions going to duncan kg wade and dirk

chazzy

01-27-2013, 07:58 PM

He's around #4

BMOGEFan

01-27-2013, 07:58 PM

honestly bronzy impresses me more than any other player I have seen in the last 10 years+. shaq and kobe are runners up with honorable mentions going to duncan kg wade and dirk

aren't you like 12?

coin24

01-27-2013, 07:58 PM

honestly bronzy impresses me more than any other player I have seen in the last 10 years+. shaq and kobe are runners up with honorable mentions going to duncan kg wade and dirk

Bronzey over prime shaq or Kobe??:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :facepalm

SwayDizzle

01-27-2013, 07:59 PM

DA LAWDDDDD. IS there anything this man can't do on the court?

kNicKz

01-27-2013, 07:59 PM

Lebron is the best right now, Kobe is still one of the best

TheBigVeto

01-27-2013, 08:51 PM

http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh600/Rodman2124/kobeclutch.gif

Kingwillball

01-27-2013, 08:59 PM

To these clowns, the NBA started in 2012

Check how Long I have been on Ish.. Lebron 3 MVP's out of the Last 4 years and Should of been Last 4 in a Row. Lebron has been the Best Player in the League since 2009 at very latest.

red1

01-27-2013, 09:10 PM

Bronzey over prime shaq or Kobe??:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :facepalm
I have been called a bron stan but I am just posting what I see. Yeah I think bronzy is better than shaq and kobe even though they are all on the same level. Would be harder to make a case against shaq but by the time he retires bronzy will have a good case.

kNicKz

01-27-2013, 09:36 PM

I think bronzy is better than shaq

You actually gotta chill now though...lol

red1

01-27-2013, 09:48 PM

You actually gotta chill now though...lol
I stand by what I posted. In the same post I acknowledge that right now it is hard to make a case for lbj since shaq played his full career but I fully expect bronzy to retire higher on the GOAT list than 5, 6 or 7 where shaq is at right now. Bronzy since 2009 has been very dominant and has been on a similar level to shaq and at the rate and durability he has been at he will have many chances to rank up the accolades as he is only 28.

longtime lurker

01-27-2013, 09:48 PM

Where's KiddleftNets to post that Kobe isn't even top 10 this season :oldlol:

OldSchoolBBall

01-27-2013, 10:05 PM

DA LAWDDDDD. IS there anything this man can't do on the court?

Yeah, give up the ball.

Kiddlovesnets

01-27-2013, 10:06 PM

Nope, still the same chucker he always was, you will see this soon. The last two games only prove that he can still get double digit assists at times when everything goes right.

Deuce Bigalow

01-27-2013, 10:17 PM

Where's KiddleftNets to post that Kobe isn't even top 10 this season :oldlol:
:oldlol:

shady6121

01-27-2013, 10:21 PM

Where's KiddleftNets to post that Kobe isn't even top 10 this season :oldlol:

:lol

NumberSix

01-27-2013, 10:24 PM

To these clowns, the NBA started in 2012
The NBA started in 1999-2000. EVERYBODY knows that.

NumberSix

01-27-2013, 10:25 PM

Check how Long I have been on Ish.. Lebron 3 MVP's out of the Last 4 years and Should of been Last 4 in a Row. Lebron has been the Best Player in the League since 2009 at very latest.
That Derrick Rose MVP is an utter embarrassment to the NBA.

SilkkTheShocker

01-27-2013, 10:27 PM

He has a losing record playing with 3 hall of fame teammates

NoGunzJustSkillz

01-27-2013, 10:28 PM

Where's KiddleftNets to post that Kobe isn't even top 10 this season :oldlol:
:roll:

Deuce Bigalow

01-27-2013, 10:29 PM

Lebron has not been the best player for 4 seasons. Lol at anyone even mentioning 2011, did people forget what happened? And Dirk or Dwight have a better case for MVP in the 2011 season than Lebron.

red1

01-27-2013, 10:36 PM

Lebron has not been the best player for 4 seasons. Lol at anyone even mentioning 2011, did people forget what happened? And Dirk or Dwight have a better case for MVP in the 2011 season than Lebron.
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/359/995/KobeMad_display_image.jpg

Deuce Bigalow

01-27-2013, 10:51 PM

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/359/995/KobeMad_display_image.jpg
Intredasting

red1

01-27-2013, 10:53 PM

Intredasting
kobe is disappointed in you

Deuce Bigalow

01-27-2013, 10:57 PM

kobe is disappointed in you
Do I need to I need to teach you some history on 2011?
Dirk the clutch Gawd had a historic run.

red1

01-27-2013, 10:58 PM

Do I need to I need to teach you some history on 2011?
Dirk the clutch Gawd had a historic run.
Lebron was still clearly the better player that year. Dirk was hot all playoffs and bron was cold for that series.

Deuce Bigalow

01-27-2013, 11:03 PM

Lebron was still clearly the better player that year. Dirk was hot all playoffs and bron was cold for that series.
Dirk was clearly the best player in the playoffs, it wasn't even close at all. Lebron kids are not going to change common knowledge.

SilkkTheShocker

01-27-2013, 11:05 PM

I like to beat off to Home Improvement before I go to bed. It helps me sleep.

red1

01-27-2013, 11:05 PM

Dirk was clearly the best player in the playoffs, it wasn't even close at all. Lebron kids are not going to change common knowledge.
Dirk was better for one series. What are talking about when you say the entire playoffs. Do you not remember everyone on bronzys jock after the celtics and bulls series? Scottie saying he thinks bronzy is better than michael? What dirk did to your team was coldblooded but bronzy was also shitting on everyone in the east. And gtfo before you say the east was weak, the bulls and celtics were both very good teams.

mehyaM24

01-27-2013, 11:12 PM

Lebron has not been the best player for 4 seasons. Lol at anyone even mentioning 2011, did people forget what happened? And Dirk or Dwight have a better case for MVP in the 2011 season than Lebron.

kobe isnt the best in the world.....but lebron was an inferior player to dirk in 2011. for sure. dont expect idiot lebron stans to know any better. :lol

Deuce Bigalow

01-27-2013, 11:12 PM

Dirk was better for one series. What are talking about when you say the entire playoffs. Do you not remember everyone on bronzys jock after the celtics and bulls series? Scottie saying he thinks bronzy is better than michael? What dirk did to your team was coldblooded but bronzy was also shitting on everyone in the east.
Is this guy serious? The finals was probably Dirk's worst series in the playoffs, he dominated the Lakers and the Thunder. He had a 48 point game on 15 shots in game 1 of the WCF and shot over 70 TS% for the series. This was not that long ago kid. And Wade was better than Lebron vs the Celtics and in the Finals.

red1

01-27-2013, 11:15 PM

Is this guy serious? The finals was probably Dirk's worst series in the playoffs, he dominated the Lakers and the Thunder. He had a 48 point game on 15 shots in game 1 of the WCF and shot over 70 TS% for the series. This was not that long ago kid. And Wade was better than Lebron vs the Celtics and in the Finals.
Are you f*cking dumb? Can you read? Where did I even argue something as obvious as dirk being better in the finals? Lebron beasted the celtics and bulls dont even argue it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgLMI784M4E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lmEh1SGdT4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOwCjHloLnI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKZnLL1IA_I

SilkkTheShocker

01-27-2013, 11:16 PM

Even I won't try to defend 2011 :oldlol:

red1

01-27-2013, 11:17 PM

Even I won't try to defend 2011 :oldlol:
was an inexcusable series

Legends66NBA7

01-27-2013, 11:22 PM

James is still #1, until proven otherwise.

Bryant is Top 5, at best.

Deuce Bigalow

01-27-2013, 11:22 PM

Dirk 2011 WCF
32-6-3 on 56/36/97 (70 TS%)

Dirk 2011 WCSF
25-9-3 on 57/73/94 (67 TS%)

Lebron didn't have one series better than either of those in 2011.

red1

01-27-2013, 11:25 PM

Dirk 2011 WCF
32-6-3 on 56/36/97 (70 TS%)

Dirk 2011 WCSF
25-9-3 on 57/73/94 (67 TS%)

Lebron didn't have one series better than either of those in 2011.
where do you get stats for playoff series? link me homie and I will respond

Deuce Bigalow

01-27-2013, 11:25 PM

Are you f*cking dumb? Can you read? Where did I even argue something as obvious as dirk being better in the finals? Lebron beasted the celtics and bulls dont even argue it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgLMI784M4E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lmEh1SGdT4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOwCjHloLnI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKZnLL1IA_I
Can you not read? You are saying that Lebron was better before the finals when the finals was Dirk's worst series. Dirk was clearly better in every round compared to Lebron, every one.

red1

01-27-2013, 11:27 PM

Can you not read? You are saying that Lebron was better before the finals when the finals was Dirk's worst series. Dirk was clearly better in every round compared to Lebron, every one.
thats where I disagree

Deuce Bigalow

01-27-2013, 11:27 PM

where do you get stats for playoff series? link me homie and I will respond
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/609/year/2011/dirk-nowitzki

Legends66NBA7

01-27-2013, 11:27 PM

where do you get stats for playoff series? link me homie and I will respond

http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2011_WCS.html

http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2011_WCF.html

Deuce Bigalow

01-27-2013, 11:34 PM

thats where I disagree
Okay, then which round was Lebron better in than Dirk? Finals no, conference finals no, semis no, first round is the only one that is close.

red1

01-27-2013, 11:43 PM

Okay, then which round was Lebron better in than Dirk? Finals no, conference finals no, semis no, first round no.
I can't get the stats to work but having watched both players in the playoffs I will say that lbj was on par with dirk who also had an amazing playoffs. Keep in mind that this obviously excludes the finals where bron was shit and dirk was very good. Bron was the best defender on his team and he carried the team against chicago with numerous clutch plays. Dirk did the same thing for his team carrying them past okc. Bron had an amazing series against the celtics at the same time that dirk was playing the lakers. First round I don't remember how dirk did against the nuggets but I will concede that dirk had much tougher competition than bron who was going up against the sixers.

FKAri

01-27-2013, 11:51 PM

Dirk 2011 WCF
32-6-3 on 56/36/97 (70 TS%)

Dirk 2011 WCSF
25-9-3 on 57/73/94 (67 TS%)

Lebron didn't have one series better than either of those in 2011.

http://images.wikia.com/theamazingworldofgumball/images/e/e3/8674a-wait_what.gif

...*double checks stat records*...

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs1/3220068_o.gif

selrahc

01-28-2013, 12:36 AM

agreed. nobody can stop kobe but himself.

Kiddlovesnets

01-28-2013, 01:43 AM

Nah, not a top 10 in NBA.

kNicKz

01-28-2013, 01:45 AM

not a top 10 in NBA.

put 10 players up then that are better than kobe...

Money 23

01-28-2013, 02:05 AM

Kobe: 2 rings in the last 4 years

:confusedshrug:
It's 2 rings in 5 years (2013 season) and since when did rings equate to best player?

Bron has been firmly the best player in the league since 2009.

:oldlol:

HardwoodLegend

01-28-2013, 02:16 AM

I remember when my boy T-Mac was so close to being the World's Best. :cry:

He played the game with such style. Nobody makes it look as pretty as T-Mac did in his peak years.

Cali Syndicate

01-28-2013, 02:27 AM

Lebron was still clearly the better player that year. Dirk was hot all playoffs and bron was cold for that series.

Being cold and disappearing are two different things.

Anyways lakers gotta go 26-12 from here on out just to break 45 wins. Not even sure that will be enough but Kobe's got his work cut out for him. Lets see for this proclaimed best player in the league pans the rest of the season out.

Deuce Bigalow

01-28-2013, 02:33 AM

It's 2 rings in 5 years (2013 season) and since when did rings equate to best player?

Bron has been firmly the best player in the league since 2009.

:oldlol:
2009 is very arguable for Kobe and Wade
2010 is very arguable for Kobe
2011 was Dirk, no argument

Kiddlovesnets

01-28-2013, 02:33 AM

put 10 players up then that are better than kobe...

Lebron, CP3, Melo, Dwight, Durant, Wade, Harden, Lee, Rose, Duncan.

Thats 10 already, I can still come out about 3-4, Kobe is barely at the bottom-line of top 15 currently.

G-Funk

01-28-2013, 02:40 AM

Lebron, CP3, Melo, Dwight, Durant, Wade, Harden, Lee, Rose, Duncan.

Thats 10 already, I can still come out about 3-4, Kobe is barely at the bottom-line of top 15 currently.
:oldlol:

Kobe is top 3 you turd

raptorfan_dr07

01-28-2013, 02:48 AM

It's 2 rings in 5 years (2013 season) and since when did rings equate to best player?

Bron has been firmly the best player in the league since 2009.

:oldlol:

Kobe and Wade had arguments in 2009. From then on though it's been Lebron hands down.

Not sure why the dumb@$$ op would make this thread after that epic fail of a performance against the Heat when Lebron and Wade took turns owning Kobe.

longtime lurker

01-28-2013, 02:51 AM

Lebron, CP3, Melo, Dwight, Durant, Wade, Harden, Lee, Rose, Duncan.

Thats 10 already, I can still come out about 3-4, Kobe is barely at the bottom-line of top 15 currently.

this mutha****a said Rose :roll: :roll: Kiddleftnets is unintentional comedy

Wavves

01-28-2013, 02:55 AM

DA LAWDDDDD. IS there anything this man can't do on the court?

Can't lead his team with 2 winners of defensive players of the year awards and a two time MVP to the 8th playoff spot.

The-Legend-24

01-28-2013, 02:59 AM

Dirk 2011 WCF
32-6-3 on 56/36/97 (70 TS%)

Dirk 2011 WCSF
25-9-3 on 57/73/94 (67 TS%)

Lebron didn't have one series better than either of those in 2011.
:biggums:

Money 23

01-28-2013, 03:22 AM

2009 is very arguable for Kobe and Wade
Regular season, Wade is slightly better individually than Bron. But Bron carried a team to 60 + wins.

In the playoffs, it's no competition. Even falling one round shorter than Kobe, thanks to Mo Williams, LeBron's post season was MUCH more dominant.

So combining the success of both season, I think LeBron is the safest pick for best player in 2009.

2010 is very arguable for Kobe
With the playoffs? Sure. LeBron quit after game 3. In the regular season LeBron was no question the better player.

2011 was Dirk, no argument
Yes, there is argument. I wouldn't say Bron was the best, because Miami had two guys putting up the same numbers, so context kills that ...

Rose and Dwight were the best regular season players that year, given context.

But Dirk has never been the all around better player compared to LeBron. Bron quit on the Heat in the Finals and they beat themselves. Hell, prior to Wade's injury, Dirk wasn't even the hands down "no argument" best player in that series.

As for 2012 and 2013? No question, LeBron James is EASILY the best player in the league. By quite a size able margin, too. Only reason he won't get another DESERVED MVP is voter fatigue, and the obligatory push for Kevin make 13 FG and get 50 points Durant.

LA Lakers

01-28-2013, 03:37 AM

Kobe much more finesse obviously better grasp of the fundamentals than Lebron James. Lebrons superior athleticism and high IQ playmaking ability allows him to be the dominant player in todays NBA.

LA Lakers

01-28-2013, 03:39 AM

Lebron is one of those guys that could excel in almost any sport.

OldSchoolBBall

01-28-2013, 10:04 AM

2009 is very arguable for Kobe and Wade
2010 is very arguable for Kobe

No, not really. Especially '10. Kobe fans. :oldlol:

ShaqAttack3234

01-28-2013, 10:32 AM

Kobe has been top 4-5 this year right there with Paul. Lebron and Durant have been the 2 best players, and I'd have Melo 3rd.

And I'd say Lebron has been the best for the last 5 seasons('09-present) but not before that. The one year I'm hesitant is 2011 when you can make a case for Dwight, Dirk and Wade as well. That year isn't as clear.

Deuce Bigalow

01-28-2013, 12:34 PM

No, not really. Especially '10. Kobe fans. :oldlol:

White Mamba

01-28-2013, 01:43 PM

[QUOTE=Deuce Bigalow]

red1

01-28-2013, 01:49 PM

“I’ve always been a big fan of his, and he knows that, and I’ve always thought he’s the best player in basketball,” said Gentry. “He didn’t do anything in this series against us that made me think otherwise. As a matter of fact, it probably solidified my thought process that he’s the best player in basketball right now.”

Alvin Gentry on May 30, 2010 after Kobe averaged 34-7-8 on 64TS in the 2010 WCF.

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/alvin-gentry-kobe-bryant-is-the-best-player-in-the-nba
by 2010 lebron was definitely a better player than kobe. kobe was better a player for 2009 than he was for the 2010 season

Deuce Bigalow

01-28-2013, 04:28 PM

by 2010 lebron was definitely a better player than kobe. kobe was better a player for 2009 than he was for the 2010 season
A 12 year old poster named red1 or Alvin Gentry, who was up close as Kobe massacred his team. Hmmm...
"2011 lebron was better than 2011 dirk, or on par" -red1 :oldlol:

Heavincent

01-28-2013, 07:17 PM

No, not really. Especially '10. Kobe fans. :oldlol:

Kobe led his teams to championships in 09 and 10, but yeah, he has absolutely no argument :oldlol:

KingBeasley08

01-28-2013, 07:34 PM

Kobe best in the league?

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
sad lakers fans have come to this

G-Funk

01-28-2013, 07:45 PM

:roll: :roll:
Kobe led his teams to championships in 09 and 10, but yeah, he has absolutely no argument :oldlol:

G-Funk

01-28-2013, 07:50 PM

No, not really. Especially '10. Kobe fans. :oldlol:
:facepalm

eliteballer

01-28-2013, 08:53 PM

If LeBron's knee was in the same shape Kobe's has been since 2009 he would be in the D League

Kiddlovesnets

01-28-2013, 08:55 PM

Kobe best in the league?

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
sad lakers fans have come to this

Thats true, kobestans needs to stop this madness, Kobe is not even a top 10 player in the league right now, barely top 15 if you ask me.

PJR

01-28-2013, 08:59 PM

If LeBron's knee was in the same shape Kobe's has been since 2009 he would be in the D League

Your idiocy holds no bounds.

RRR3

01-28-2013, 09:02 PM

Why don't you come up with an actual argument as to why he's better than LeBron James or Kevin Durant? Or Chris Paul for that matter?

You can't, unless "5 rings" counts as an argument. No one denies Kobe is ranked higher (currently) than all these guys on the all-time list, but he has literally no argument over current LBJ or Durant.

red1

01-29-2013, 01:01 AM

A 12 year old poster named red1 or Alvin Gentry, who was up close as Kobe massacred his team. Hmmm...
"2011 lebron was better than 2011 dirk, or on par" -red1 :oldlol:
Yes. Lebron was better than kobe for the 2010 season. Why you so mad deuce jig-a-hoe? Don't become salty just because other people dont worship kobe the same way that you do.