So ummm......Anthony Davis, where you at bruh???

[tikay0]

12.8 PPG
7.8 RPG
0.8 APG

Not to mention, average to decent defense, and more of a hustle type player than the game changer, everyone was labeling him as.

"the most NBA ready player since Lebron." Remember that?

[RoseCity07]

Those numbers are quite good for a rookie center that still needs to bulk up. He's been hurt this year too.

[clipse026]

12.8 PPG
7.8 RPG
0.8 APG

Not to mention, average to decent defense, and more of a hustle type player than the game changer, everyone was labeling him as.

"the most NBA ready player since Lebron." Remember that?
You even watch this kid play? My guess is no. He's closing the ROY gap that was pretty big at the start of the season.

[Purch]

I thought evan turner was supposed to be the most Nba ready player since Lebron.

[tikay0]

Those numbers are quite good for a rookie center that still needs to bulk up. He's been hurt this year too.

Have you actually been watching him play? You don't even notice he's there sometimes.

[PJR]

I think he'll be a late bloomer. Monty Williams seems to have the cuffs on him a bit.

[tikay0]

You even watch this kid play? My guess is no. He's closing the ROY gap that was pretty big at the start of the season.

Yes I have. He's average bro.

[Clippersfan86]

He's a very good rookie with big upside but at the same time he was WAY WAY overhyped. You had people saying he would have the impact of rookie Duncan and Lebron and would immediately lift the Hornets franchise.

I know he was injured multiple times this year but the one thing OP got right was at times he's a bit invisible impact wise. Nor has he proven he can be a go to scorer as he's often the 4th or 5th scoring option out there even on a team lacking a go to scorer outside of Gordon who just got back recently.

I still stand by Camby/Chandler in his prime but with more ball handling and a better shooting touch.

[anthonyRandolph]

brb putting his assists per game instead of blocks.

The kid is 19, I'll take 13 and 8 with 2 blocks in 29 minutes per game. Monty isn't overloading him this season, and he wasn't expected to be a focal point of the offense coming in, especially with Gordon back. If you want to see him carry the load watch his full game highlights against the Raptors.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuvKpMHahNM

[RoseCity07]

He's a very good rookie with big upside but at the same time he was WAY WAY overhyped. You had people saying he would have the impact of rookie Duncan and Lebron and would immediately lift the Hornets franchise.

I know he was injured multiple times this year but the one thing OP got right was at times he's a bit invisible impact wise. Nor has he proven he can be a go to scorer as he's often the 4th or 5th scoring option out there even on a team lacking a go to scorer outside of Gordon who just got back recently.

I still stand by Camby/Chandler in his prime but with more ball handling and a better shooting touch.

Still worthy of the hype. Camby went to the finals with New York. Chandler helped Dallas win a championship. Camby was also a defensive player of the year. Davis has qualities that definitely warrant him being the number 1 pick in a draft that looked pretty weak. He's definitely the best player in the draft. So the hype is well deserved. His team won a national championship.

Just look at the Hornet right now. Austin Rivers was their other pick.:oldlol: It's going to take them a few years.

[tikay0]

brb putting his assists per game instead of blocks.

1.8, but c'mon. That is absolutely no gauge on his sub par to average defense. The way he was hyped, you'd think he'd be putting up 20/10 on that shitty Hornets team.

I think people thought he was going to be a game changing defender like Russell, but he's going to end up being a good defender with shot blocking ability, trapped in a really, really big SF's body.

[dbk123]

listing apg instead of bpg for a rookie center. op is indeed a *******

[brandonislegend]

So much fail in here that I am not even going to get started

[Michael_Wilbon]

He will be great.

[All Net]

Injures have really held him back...

[tikay0]

listing apg instead of bpg for a rookie center. op is indeed a *******

His blocks have no indication on his defense. He's an athletic, young guy that has good timing, I'll give him that, but his post defense is going to stop him from being elite, or even an impact player like a Duncan, KG, Russell (lmfao).

[anthonyRandolph]

1.8, but c'mon. That is absolutely no gauge on his sub par to average defense. The way he was hyped, you'd think he'd be putting up 20/10 on that shitty Hornets team.

I think people thought he was going to be a game changing defender like Russell, but he's going to end up being a good defender with shot blocking ability, trapped in a really, really big SF's body.
Hornets have been winning with Gordon back.
http://espn.go.com/nba/team/schedule/_/name/no/new-orleans-hornets

He came back against Dallas, that's a solid spand for a shitty team. Also doesn't help when you have Aminu rebounding at an elite level for a SF.
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/4248/al-farouq-aminu

[GreatGreg]

Dwight averaged 12/10 as a rookie...
Kevin Garnett averaged 10/6 as a rookie...
Dirk didn't bloom until his 3rd season


Thread=moot

[Clippersfan86]

Still worthy of the hype. Camby went to the finals with New York. Chandler helped Dallas win a championship. Camby was also a defensive player of the year. Davis has qualities that definitely warrant him being the number 1 pick in a draft that looked pretty weak. He's definitely the best player in the draft. So the hype is well deserved. His team won a national championship.

Just look at the Hornet right now. Austin Rivers was their other pick.:oldlol: It's going to take them a few years.

Your own rookie Lilliard is better right now bro. Which is odd considering the absolute biggest praise for Davis was how NBA ready he was (skill set wise, I know people said he needed time to bulk up). Bottom line is the hype to production ratio has been a bit disappointing. For example people hate Blake's hype his rookie year but the guy put up 22.5, 12, 4 and 1 on great efficiency. Davis is nowhere close to as good as rookie Blake.

[dbk123]

His blocks have no indication on his defense. He's an athletic, young guy that has good timing, I'll give him that, but his post defense is going to stop him from being elite, or even an impact player like a Duncan, KG, Russell (lmfao).
whats the point of listing apg then? trying to give an indication of his playmaking as a center? you have an obvious agenda, pls go.

[tikay0]

Dwight averaged 12/10 as a rookie...
Kevin Garnett averaged 10/6 as a rookie...
Dirk didn't bloom until his 3rd season


Thread=moot

Good point. Just saying the way he was hyped, I thought he'd be a mix of KG and Russell. With this watered down league, you'd think he'd be posting very good numbers.

Blake Griffin beasted his rookie season, why can't AD?

[tikay0]

Your own rookie Lilliard is better right now bro. Which is odd considering the absolute biggest praise for Davis was how NBA ready he was (skill set wise, I know people said he needed time to bulk up). Bottom line is the hype to production ratio has been a bit disappointing. For example people hate Blake's hype his rookie year but the guy put up 22.5, 12, 4 and 1 on great efficiency. Davis is nowhere close to as good as rookie Blake.

Precisely. We're acting like Robinson, Ewing, Mutombo, Shaq, Hakeem, Divac, etc. still play in the league.

The league is straight up watered down. Hence why Blake went off his rookie year. What's up with AD???

[dbk123]

Good point. Just saying the way he was hyped, I thought he'd be a mix of KG and Russell. With this watered down league, you'd think he'd be posting very good numbers.

Blake Griffin beasted his rookie season, why can't AD?
maybe because blake griffin was 2 years older than AD in his rookie season?

[Clippersfan86]

Dwight averaged 12/10 as a rookie...
Kevin Garnett averaged 10/6 as a rookie...
Dirk didn't bloom until his 3rd season


Thread=moot

Yes because listing two HS players and a euro kid who had very little hype is comparable :facepalm . Dwight and KG had a lot of hype but going from HS to the pros is a SIGNIFICANTLY I REPEAT SIGNIFICANTLY bigger leap than coming from the top college team in the NCAA who won the national championship. As for Dirk he was a scrawny guy from Europe that was expected to be more of a project and didn't have the hype Davis had so the expectations were different. I'd say of the 4 Davis was easily the most hyped world wide.

Maybe that's because social media is bigger than ever before but honestly the ass kissing and hype surrounding Davis was insane for a 12 and 8 player.

[brandonislegend]

maybe because blake griffin was 2 years older than AD in his rookie season?

People don't use logical facts to back up anything here.

[Clippersfan86]

maybe because blake griffin was 2 years older than AD in his rookie season?

Only due to missing a season with injury. Griffin was drafted at 20, Davis at 19. which if you remember Griffin dominated summer league and preseason right out of the gate, winning summer league MVP and was murdering in preseason for a rookie. Not saying it's the same as regular season but Griffin showed signs of greatness and dominance that first summer... so I have no doubt that if he had not missed his first season he would have been a 19/10/3 player at worst which is much better than what Davis is giving.

[dbk123]

Only due to missing a season with injury... which if you remember Griffin dominated summer league and preseason right out of the gate, winning summer league MVP and was murdering in preseason for a rookie. Not saying it's the same as regular season but Griffin showed signs of greatness and dominance that first summer... so I have no doubt that if he had not missed his first season he would have been a 19/10/3 player at worst which is much better than what Davis is giving.
nah griffin had an extra year of college too.

[tikay0]

maybe because blake griffin was 2 years older than AD in his rookie season?

But, but, but, he's "the most NBA player since Lebron". I thought he was able to handle the rock like prime Lamar Odom. Rebound like Dennis Rodman. Silky smooth jump shot, with the defensive prowess of a prime Russell.

[tikay0]

nah griffin had an extra year of college too.

So what??? I thought his greatness was supposed to transcend his youth.

Remember how "NBA ready" he was supposed to be???

[tikay0]

People don't use logical facts to back up anything here.

:facepalm "most NBA ready player since Lebron" ring a bell???

[konex]

His minutes are way down recently. Ryan Anderson and even Jason Smith are playing well

[brandonislegend]

:facepalm "most NBA ready player since Lebron" ring a bell???

Who said that? An ESPN analyst? They also said the Mavericks would get swept by the Heat

[Clippersfan86]

nah griffin had an extra year of college too.

He missed about half of his first season due to a knee injury. So he played 1.5 seasons in college. Not to mention Blake is supposedly FAR more raw and undeveloped skillset wise compared to Anthony Davis so it's real convenient for you to mention an extra half season in college.

[dbk123]

But, but, but, he's "the most NBA player since Lebron". I thought he was able to handle the rock like prime Lamar Odom. Rebound like Dennis Rodman. Silky smooth jump shot, with the defensive prowess of a prime Russell.
wtf are you even talking about? lol. when was he considered the most nba ready player since lebron? and no one was saying he had handles like odom or rebounding like roman. you are just making shit up right now

[brandonislegend]

wtf are you even talking about? lol. when was he considered the most nba ready player since lebron? and no one was saying he had handles like odom or rebounding like roman. you are just making shit up right now

I think his mommy told him that. :roll:

[Clippersfan86]

His minutes are way down recently. Ryan Anderson and even Jason Smith are playing well

That's the thing. He can't even stand out enough to eat up 35+ MPG as a rookie. His impact is good but sometimes he vanishes for stretches. Also I understand he's a defensive player but he should be a good enough scorer to at LEAST be the 3rd option on that team yet he isn't normally.

[anthonyRandolph]

Only due to missing a season with injury. Griffin was drafted at 20, Davis at 19. which if you remember Griffin dominated summer league and preseason right out of the gate, winning summer league MVP and was murdering in preseason for a rookie. Not saying it's the same as regular season but Griffin showed signs of greatness and dominance that first summer... so I have no doubt that if he had not missed his first season he would have been a 19/10/3 player at worst which is much better than what Davis is giving.
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3989/blake-griffin

like he is now:coleman:

[dbk123]

He missed about half of his first season due to a knee injury. So he played 1.5 seasons in college. Not to mention Blake is supposedly FAR more raw and undeveloped skillset wise compared to Anthony Davis so it's real convenient for you to mention an extra half season in college.
davis has missed almost half the season so far, so you're argument is invalid. get griffins flopping **** outta ur ass bro.

[Clippersfan86]

wtf are you even talking about? lol. when was he considered the most nba ready player since lebron? and no one was saying he had handles like odom or rebounding like roman. you are just making shit up right now

Actually I was hearing on pre draft stuff from various places that he was the most NBA ready rookie since DUNCAN in terms of fundamentals and skillset. Trust me people were saying it.

[anthonyRandolph]

whats the point of listing apg then? trying to give an indication of his playmaking as a center? you have an obvious agenda, pls go.
this, getting sad entertaining this thread.

[dbk123]

Actually I was hearing on pre draft stuff from various places that he was the most NBA ready rookie since DUNCAN in terms of fundamentals and skillset. Trust me people were saying it.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-eeGNhmZBQLk/T753OksLlqI/AAAAAAAABPI/g3jjMGpkusw/s1600/jennifer-lawrence.gif

[Joshumitsu]

KG, Kevin Love, Amare, Aldridge, Bosh, Zach Randolph, Millsap, and Al Jefferson are all power forwards who didn't do great their first or second years.

Yao, Bynum, and Dwight are centers who didn't do well their first year or two either.

Give him a year or two.

[brandonislegend]

That's the thing. He can't even stand out enough to eat up 35+ MPG as a rookie. His impact is good but sometimes he vanishes for stretches. Also I understand he's a defensive player but he should be a good enough scorer to at LEAST be the 3rd option on that team yet he isn't normally.

Maybe because his coach is actually a good coach and is teaching him the hard way unlike the Clippers who let him do whatever the **** he wanted as a rookie, now he sucks on defense and has no footwork at all still. Benching a #1 pick is a ballsy thing to do but shows you aren't gonna let them do whatever the **** they want on the court.

[Clippersfan86]

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3989/blake-griffin

like he is now:coleman:

Now he's playing with a loaded roster. His rookie year he played with a similarly talented roster to the current Hornets. How are Wade's and Bosh's stats since Lebron joined? It's just common sense that I shouldn't have to explain to you guys. Blake's PER 36 numbers are right around his career average and he's been flat out dominant lately. He just put up a statistical week that hasn't been done since Lebron in 2005, so I don't need to defend the guy, he's blossoming into an undisputed superstar.

[brandonislegend]

Now he's playing with a loaded roster. His rookie year he played with a similarly talented roster to the current Hornets. How are Wade's and Bosh's stats since Lebron joined? It's just common sense that I shouldn't have to explain to you guys. Blake's PER 36 numbers are right around his career average and he's been flat out dominant lately. He just put up a statistical week that hasn't been done since Lebron in 2005, so I don't need to defend the guy, he's blossoming into an undisputed superstar.

He is playing with the best play making point guard since Magic Johnson. :roll:

[tikay0]

Actually I was hearing on pre draft stuff from various places that he was the most NBA ready rookie since DUNCAN in terms of fundamentals and skillset. Trust me people were saying it.

Exactly. How convenient. All of a sudden AD was never supposed to be a beast coming out the gates. :facepalm

[dbk123]

Now he's playing with a loaded roster. His rookie year he played with a similarly talented roster to the current Hornets. How are Wade's and Bosh's stats since Lebron joined? It's just common sense that I shouldn't have to explain to you guys. Blake's PER 36 numbers are right around his career average and he's been flat out dominant lately. He just put up a statistical week that hasn't been done since Lebron in 2005, so I don't need to defend the guy, he's blossoming into an undisputed superstar.
1-4 in last 5 games. yea putting up empty stats dont mean shit if they dont affect the game.:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Clippersfan86]

Maybe because his coach is actually a good coach and is teaching him the hard way unlike the Clippers who let him do whatever the **** he wanted as a rookie, now he sucks on defense and has no footwork at all still. Benching a #1 pick is a ballsy thing to do but shows you aren't gonna let them do whatever the **** they want on the court.

:oldlol: man you should really try to stay current on things before talking about them. I understand the Hornets have a great coach who is all about fundamentals and discipline but if this kid was that great he would be playing way more, no way around it. He doesn't have Eddie Jones ahead of him like Kobe did, he has freaking Jason Smith and Ryan Anderson :facepalm .

[brandonislegend]

:oldlol: man you should really try to stay current on things before talking about them. I understand the Hornets have a great coach who is all about fundamentals and discipline but if this kid was that great he would be playing way more, no way around it. He doesn't have Eddie Jones ahead of him like Kobe did, he has freaking Jason Smith and Ryan Anderson :facepalm .

Ryan Anderson is a scrub? He averaged similar stats to your boyfriend last season :roll:

[Clippersfan86]

1-4 in last 5 games. yea putting up empty stats dont mean shit if they dont affect the game.:roll: :roll: :roll:

Is Kyrie a shit player? He's been dominant this year while the Cavs are headed back to the lottery. Clippers are 1-4 because nobody but Blake brought it these last 5 games. Prior to that he was averaging extremely good numbers for the last couple weeks as well WITH CP3 in the lineup and the team winning.

The impact is there, just can't do it alone obviously.

[b0bab0i]

Maybe because his coach is actually a good coach and is teaching him the hard way unlike the Clippers who let him do whatever the **** he wanted as a rookie, now he sucks on defense and has no footwork at all still. Benching a #1 pick is a ballsy thing to do but shows you aren't gonna let them do whatever the **** they want on the court.

The team is still lottery bound :roll: Shouldn't Monty Williams let his rookie develop?

I still think that Drummond has a higher upside than davis and will have a better career overall.

[dbk123]

Is Kyrie a shit player? He's been dominant this year while the Cavs are headed back to the lottery. Clippers are 1-4 because nobody but Blake brought it these last 5 games. Prior to that he was averaging extremely good numbers for the last couple weeks as well WITH CP3 in the lineup and the team winning.

The impact is there, just can't do it alone obviously.
because cleveland roster=clippers roster. cmon son



btw i still remember you saying bledsoe>>> kyrie this season. what happened bro??

[Clippersfan86]

Ryan Anderson is a scrub? He averaged similar stats to your boyfriend last season :roll:

Wait I called Anderson a scrub? I think he's a very nice player who is efficient. I can't imagine rookie Griffin playing off the bench for him though even if Monty Williams was the coach, that's my point. If he was already a great player he wouldn't ride the pine as often. No great rookies I can think of didn't play themselves into a good 35 minutes or more a game.

[brandonislegend]

Is Kyrie a shit player? He's been dominant this year while the Cavs are headed back to the lottery. Clippers are 1-4 because nobody but Blake brought it these last 5 games. Prior to that he was averaging extremely good numbers for the last couple weeks as well WITH CP3 in the lineup and the team winning.

The impact is there, just can't do it alone obviously.

So if CP3 is out they have no body else, but when hes healthy you have said multiple times they are the deepest team in the league, make up your mind man.

[Nick Young]

Is Kyrie a shit player? He's been dominant this year while the Cavs are headed back to the lottery. Clippers are 1-4 because nobody but Blake brought it these last 5 games. Prior to that he was averaging extremely good numbers for the last couple weeks as well WITH CP3 in the lineup and the team winning.

The impact is there, just can't do it alone obviously.
Blake the leader leading his team to a 1-4 record, LEGEND. I used to always joke about Griff coming to the lakers but I take them back, this loser was born to be a clipper for life:lol


No one will ever forget how you completely gave up on your team, Blake and CP3 at half time of game 1 vs the grizzlies last year.

[FreezingTsmoove]

Did anyone here actually believe he was NBA ready or going to make a huge impact? I mean 4 yrs ago he was literally a PG. Also how on earth did anyone actually believe he was as NBA ready as Tim Duncan? No player in the future of the NBA will ever be as NBAready as Timmy D

And 12 points a game for a 19 yr old is amazing

[brandonislegend]

because cleveland roster=clippers roster. cmon son



btw i still remember you saying bledsoe>>> kyrie this season. what happened bro??

He flip flops about everything look at my last post another time he did.

[Clippersfan86]

The team is still lottery bound :roll: Shouldn't Monty Williams let his rookie develop?

I still think that Drummond has a higher upside than davis and will have a better career overall.

Agree 100 percent. He's making all sorts of excuses but NOW is the time to play the kid 35+ minutes a night and throw him into the fire so he can learn through all the struggles. Drummond absolutely has better upside and honestly is the better player NOW already.

Drummond averages a beastly 13+ rpg, 3 bpg, 1.5 spg PER 36. His scoring isn't the best but his impact seems greater than Davis'.

[brandonislegend]

Did anyone here actually believe he was NBA ready or going to make a huge impact? I mean 4 yrs ago he was literally a PG. Also how on earth did anyone actually believe he was as NBA ready as Tim Duncan? No player in the future of the NBA will ever be as NBAready as Timmy D

And 12 points a game for a 19 yr old is amazing

Exactly, on top of that Tim Duncan came into the playing next to David Robinson.

[dbk123]

Exactly, on top of that Tim Duncan came into the playing next to David Robinson.
what do you expect from someone with over 25k posts? not to mention his other accounts.:lol :lol

[Clippersfan86]

He flip flops about everything look at my last post another time he did.

Lol. So anytime you're wrong, own up to it and have a new and more accurate opinion it's called "flip flopping"? I'd rather not be like you where you spew garbage without facts consistently and even when proven wrong with facts, continue repeating yourself like a jackass.

[The Big Skinny]

Those numbers are quite good for a rookie center that still needs to bulk up. He's been hurt this year too.

He has no place being a center in the NBA. He would be better off becoming the new age KG. Has the skills and ability to do it.

[brandonislegend]

26k posts in 2 years of flip flopping delusion, says the Clippers have the deepest team in the league, someone brings up 1-4 without CP3 then says the roster compares to the Cavaliers :roll:

[dbk123]

26k posts in 2 years of flip flopping delusion, says the Clippers have the deepest team in the league, someone brings up 1-4 without CP3 then says the roster compares to the Cavaliers :roll:
such is life as a clippers fan

[Clippersfan86]

26k posts in 2 years of flip flopping delusion, says the Clippers have the deepest team in the league, someone brings up 1-4 without CP3 then says the roster compares to the Cavaliers :roll:

Clippers are the deepest team. Doesn't mean 3 of your best players can be out with injury and you won't struggle. Once again though you have a massive reading comprehension failure :applause: . I said the 2010 Clippers roster wasn't much better than the current Hornets roster. I never compared the Clippers roster to the Cavs but merely made a point that a player can play like Jordan but if he gets no help, he will fail (I brought up Kyrie because he's put up INSANE stats at times). It just so happens Crawford, Barnes and other guys that have stepped up always at times of need failed in this stretch.

[tikay0]

He has no place being a center in the NBA. He would be better off becoming the new age KG. Has the skills and ability to do it.

No. No, he doesn't. Which is my point. They sold this kid as an all around skill player like a KG, but he hasn't shown a single sign of even being able to create his own shot.

[2010splash]

Post is full of fail.

Per 36 we have a rookie putting up:

15.9 ppg
9.7 rpg
2.2 bpg
1.5 spg

at 19 years old. Yes, he's a superstar in the making easily.

[tikay0]

Post is full of fail.

Per 36 we have a rookie putting up:

15.9 ppg
9.7 rpg
2.2 bpg
1.5 spg

at 19 years old. Yes, he's a superstar in the making easily.

Again. Watch the kid play, and remember what team he's on. Also remember how watered down the big men are in this league, and then form a conclusion.

[305Baller]

He's pretty good. Good form on the shot.

[ZenMaster]

Agree 100 percent. He's making all sorts of excuses but NOW is the time to play the kid 35+ minutes a night and throw him into the fire so he can learn through all the struggles. Drummond absolutely has better upside and honestly is the better player NOW already.

Drummond averages a beastly 13+ rpg, 3 bpg, 1.5 spg PER 36. His scoring isn't the best but his impact seems greater than Davis'.

Yes, just ignore the injuries and his possible conditioning level, just ignore that he's a 19 year old rookie who's still working on bulking up, just throw him into the fire and see what happens.

Just let him develop and learn how to play NBA defense, it takes time.

[tikay0]

He's pretty good. Good form on the shot.

You hit the nail on the head. By this time, you'd expect people to see flashes of brilliance.

[Clippersfan86]

Post is full of fail.

Per 36 we have a rookie putting up:

15.9 ppg
9.7 rpg
2.2 bpg
1.5 spg

at 19 years old. Yes, he's a superstar in the making easily.

My point personally wasn't that he sucks. I think he's a very nice rookie with big upside as I said and will be a perennial all star. That being said... I don't see the top 5 player, prime KG, dominant player hype that people gave/give.

[tikay0]

Yes, just ignore the injuries and his possible conditioning level, just ignore that he's a 19 year old rookie who's still working on bulking up, just throw him into the fire and see what happens.

Just let him develop and learn how to play NBA defense, it takes time.

I don't want to hear this anymore. This kid was hyped up to be the next best thing since sliced bread. I don't wanna hear how he's not ready yet, or how he needs some time to play defense (the one thing he was supposed to be very, very good at, right out the gate.).

[clipse026]

Again. Watch the kid play, and remember what team he's on. Also remember how watered down the big men are in this league, and then form a conclusion.
Are you even watching this TEAM play? Anderson is the league leader in 3's. Vasquez is playing his ass off and is probably the MIP right now. Gordon is back and playing pretty well. Not to mention Aminu has been pulling down double digit rebounds since he's been back in the lineup. Are you expecting Davis to score 25 a game and pull down 15 rebounds? :facepalm

[Clippersfan86]

Yes, just ignore the injuries and his possible conditioning level, just ignore that he's a 19 year old rookie who's still working on bulking up, just throw him into the fire and see what happens.

Just let him develop and learn how to play NBA defense, it takes time.

I acknowledged all of these so how am I ignoring it? Don't let Brandon's derailing of the thread confuse you. Read my first post in here and I gave him props and said he's a good rookie. My main comment that caused contention was that his hype to production ratio is a bit disappointing.

[tikay0]

Are you even watching this TEAM play? Anderson is the league leader in 3's. Vasquez is playing his ass off and is probably the MIP right now. Gordon is back and playing pretty well. Not to mention Aminu has been pulling down double digit rebounds since he's been back in the lineup. Are you expecting Davis to score 25 a game and pull down 15 rebounds? :facepalm

The next KG/Duncan should be posting better numbers than he's posting, is all i'm saying. You're acting like we have a league full of monster big men.

[clipse026]

The next KG/Duncan should be posting better numbers than he's posting, is all i'm saying. You're acting like we have a league full of monster big men.
:facepalm

[brandonislegend]

I acknowledged all of these so how am I ignoring it? Don't let Brandon's derailing of the thread confuse you. Read my first post in here and I gave him props and said he's a good rookie. My main comment that caused contention was that his hype to production ratio is a bit disappointing.

You brought Blake Griffin up you derailed it, you have to bring him up in every thread :roll:

[dbk123]

I don't want to hear this anymore. This kid was hyped up to be the next best thing since sliced bread. I don't wanna hear how he's not ready yet, or how he needs some time to play defense (the one thing he was supposed to be very, very good at, right out the gate.).
you are a fukkin idiot. I guess derrick rose should be putting up better numbers than last year from the moment he returns. yea lets just ignore injuries because they dont mean anything.

[tikay0]

Again, all I'm saying is, with all the hype surrounding the kid, shouldn't we be hearing his name pop up on a way more consistent basis? You never hear anything about the kid, or analysts on NBA TV, etc. saying, "this kid is going to be a force to be reckoned with in the future".

He should be getting Damian Lillard type shine by now. What happened???

[Clippersfan86]

You brought Blake Griffin up you derailed it, you have to bring him up in every thread :roll:

I brought him up as an example because he was the most hyped rookie and people shit on him for it DESPITE numbers that swallow Davis' not to mention single game performances. I also brought him up because people talked about him having a more NBA ready skillset than Blake Griffin and more upside. I'm not seeing any of that was my point.

[tikay0]

I brought him up as an example because he was the most hyped rookie and people shit on him for it DESPITE numbers that swallow Davis' not to mention single game performances. I also brought him up because people talked about him having a more NBA ready skillset than Blake Griffin and more upside. I'm not saying any of that was my point.

They just don't get it yet. You are absolutely correct. The hype to production ratio is pretty weak thus far.

[dbk123]

I brought him up as an example because he was the most hyped rookie and people shit on him for it DESPITE numbers that swallow Davis' not to mention single game performances. I also brought him up because people talked about him having a more NBA ready skillset than Blake Griffin and more upside. I'm not seeing any of that was my point.
griffin was more nba ready because of his body, but davis has far more upside than bg.

[brandonislegend]

The only reason he was hyped is because the draft class was ****ing shit. Who else would have got taken first? Dion Waiters? Bradley Beal? Austin Rivers? :roll:

They have to hype someone or who the **** is going to watch the draft? If they drafted all middle school players they would still hype someone because if they didn't no one would watch. If it was a deeper draft more people would have gotten publicity.

Anthony Davis has as much upside as anyone he played guard like 3 or 4 years ago for god sake he is still growing into his body.

[tikay0]

griffin was more nba ready because of his body, but davis has far more upside than bg.

The thing is, no one lawded him for being a physical, Shaq type player. His bread and butter was supposed to be how versatile, and skilled defensively he was. He's not even showing signs of that.

[tikay0]

The only reason he was hyped is because the draft class was ****ing shit. Who else would have got taken first? Dion Waiters? Bradley Beal? Austin Rivers? :roll:

They have to hype someone or who the **** is going to watch the draft? If they drafted all middle school players they would still hype someone because if they didn't no one would watch. If it was a deeper draft more people would have gotten publicity.

Anthony Davis has as much upside as anyone he played guard like 3 or 4 years ago for god sake he is still growing into his body.

GTFOH with that. It wasn't a matter of the NBA needing to hype someone up to make the draft class more interesting. It's the fact that ESPN, NBA analysts, college analysts saying how he was a once a decade type talent.

WTF aren't you getting about this topic???

[Clippersfan86]

The only reason he was hyped is because the draft class was ****ing shit. Who else would have got taken first? Dion Waiters? Bradley Beal? Austin Rivers? :roll:

They have to hype someone or who the **** is going to watch the draft? If they drafted all middle school players they would still hype someone because if they didn't no one would watch. If it was a deeper draft more people would have gotten publicity.

Anthony Davis has as much upside as anyone he played guard like 3 or 4 years ago for god sake he is still growing into his body.

Blake Griffin's skillset>Davis. His passing and ballhandling are better not to mention he's a freak athlete and strong as fu**. People want to talk about Davis playing PG but Blake also played PG in HS and had a similar growth spurt. This is what I'm talking about right here though. People act like somebody didn't just come into the NBA in 2009 with a similar ballhandling/passing skillset for his size but Blake did.

I guess longer arms and better defensive instincts automatically mean you have more upside. Despite the fact that Davis will never be the raw, powerful athlete Blake is... or have the post game down low most likely.

[brandonislegend]

Blake Griffin's skillset>Davis. His passing and ballhandling are better not to mention he's a freak athlete and strong as fu**. People want to talk about Davis playing PG but Blake also played PG in HS and had a similar growth spurt. This is what I'm talking about right here though. People act like somebody didn't just come into the NBA in 2009 with a similar ballhandling/passing skillset for his size but Blake did.

I guess longer arms and better defensive instincts automatically mean you have more upside. Despite the fact that Davis will never be the raw, powerful athlete Blake is... or have the post game down low most likely.

Ok.

[tikay0]

Blake Griffin's skillset>Davis. His passing and ballhandling are better not to mention he's a freak athlete and strong as fu**. People want to talk about Davis playing PG but Blake also played PG in HS and had a similar growth spurt. This is what I'm talking about right here though. People act like somebody didn't just come into the NBA in 2009 with a similar ballhandling/passing skillset for his size but Blake did.

I guess longer arms and better defensive instincts automatically mean you have more upside. Despite the fact that Davis will never be the raw, powerful athlete Blake is... or have the post game down low most likely.

That's precisely my point. We get that he's not supposed to be a Shaq type player. His bread and butter was supposed to be his rare skill set for a big man, with great defense.

The thing is, he's not even showing signs of why he got so hyped up.

Are you guys finally understanding this?

[ZenMaster]

I don't want to hear this anymore. This kid was hyped up to be the next best thing since sliced bread. I don't wanna hear how he's not ready yet, or how he needs some time to play defense (the one thing he was supposed to be very, very good at, right out the gate.).

Nobody can be very good at NBA defense right out of the gate because of the different rules from whatever league a rookie comes from.

What Davis has for his position is elite athleticism, speed, quickness and catch and finish ability. He'll probably never be a great 1on1 offensive player, but he wasn't supposed to, he wasn't in college either.

I think he'll have a learning curve kind of like Serge Ibaka, but his rookie level is way higher than Ibakas.

People in this thread will eat their words 2-3 years from now. Reminds me of Rubio.

[tikay0]

Nobody can be very good at NBA defense right out of the gate because of the different rules from whatever league a rookie comes from.

What Davis has for his position is elite athleticism, speed, quickness and catch and finish ability. He'll probably never be a great 1on1 offensive player, but he wasn't supposed to, he wasn't in college either.

I think he'll have a learning curve kind of like Serge Ibaka, but his rookie level is way higher than Ibakas.

People in this thread will eat their words 2-3 years from now. Reminds me of Rubio.

You totally forgot the fact that his ball handling skills, and shooting touch were what made him stand out. The athleticism is a non issue. He was supposed to be a skill player at the big man position. Pretty much the things that would separate him from a Tyson Chandler or a Marcus Camby.

[Sarcastic]

Meanwhile Andre Drummond put up 18 and 18 tonight in 28 minutes :lol

[Clippersfan86]

Meanwhile Andre Drummond put up 18 and 18 tonight in 28 minutes :lol

Regularly has huge games in limited minutes. Dude is going to be much better than Davis if he works hard and keeps improving.

[brandonislegend]

53% FG 13ppg 8rebs 1.5 steals and 2 blocks a game in 28 mins while dealing with injury as a rookie that is still growing into his body hm

[tikay0]

53% FG 13ppg 8rebs 1.5 steals and 2 blocks a game in 28 mins while dealing with injury as a rookie that is still growing into his body hm

Once in a lifetime talent right there. :facepalm

Do you get why I made this topic???

Lebron got hyped beyond belief, and he lived up to it. AD got almost the same treatment, but isn't living up to the hype.

[sfballa13]

The offense and the team stars Davis and he is putting up
12/8/1.8 blocks a game in 29 minutes per game

Drummond rots away on the bench in Detroit and is putting up
7 pts / 7 rebounds / 1.6 blocks in 20 minutes per game

Davis was hailed as one of the best rookies in the past 5-10 years when in reality he is nothing special and might easily be eclipsed by Drummond (who is already 60 lbs heavier) in a few years

Oh yeh Drummond and Dwight are the only teenagers since 1985 with
18 pts/18 rebound games

Drummond did that in 28 minutes, if he got the minutes and was featured in the offense he would put up crazy numbers and yet he gets no love while everyone on ISH and RealGM jacked off to Davis all last summer and even till now claiming injury was holding him back please

[brandonislegend]

Once in a lifetime talent right there. :facepalm

Do you get why I made this topic???

Lebron got hyped beyond belief, and he lived up to it. AD got almost the same treatment, but isn't living up to the hype.

LeBron was hyped in his 2nd year in high school, no one even knew who Anthony Davis was before last year :wtf:

[Kblaze8855]

Actually I was hearing on pre draft stuff from various places that he was the most NBA ready rookie since DUNCAN in terms of fundamentals and skillset. Trust me people were saying it.


If you insist........i missed it.


To me he seemed less hyped than Oj Mayo. More than Okafor but less than say.....Sebastian Telfair. Or Oden. Standard clear #1 pick hype but nothing more than Melo. Hes never been Danny Manning or even Danny Ferry hyped to me.

But perhaps ive been inattentive. His brow is bigger than his name from what ive seen.

[brandonislegend]

If you insist........i missed it.


To me he seemed less hyped than Oj Mayo. More than Okafor but less than say.....Sebastian Telfair. Or Oden. Standard clear #1 pick hype but nothing more than Melo. Hes never been Danny Manning or even Danny Ferry hyped to me.

But perhaps ive been inattentive. His brow is bigger than his name from what ive seen.

This. Every year someone is hyped the good thing about Davis is he is a hustle/defensive player not some random little guard that won't do shit.

[tikay0]

LeBron was hyped in his 2nd year in high school, no one even knew who Anthony Davis was before last year :wtf:

and, your point is???

Did he not get hyped up beyond belief? Were people not saying how he was a once in a generation type talent? Were there not a million and one threads saying how he could be a mix of Russell and KG? :eek:

[tikay0]

This. Every year someone is hyped the good thing about Davis is he is a hustle/defensive player not some random little guard that won't do shit.

That's precisely it. He's a hustle type player. He's not the skilled big man with Russell like defense, and #1 option on a championship team people were saying he was going to be.

[ZenMaster]

The thing is, no one lawded him for being a physical, Shaq type player. His bread and butter was supposed to be how versatile, and skilled defensively he was. He's not even showing signs of that.

He's not showing signs of versatility?

In the NBA there are 3 players averaging more than 1.5 blocks, 1 steal, 7 rebounds and 12 points.

Davis, Noah and Josh Smith. The last two plays 35+ mpg and shots around 45% FG. Davis plays 29 and shoots 52%.

For a rookie he shows very good versatility.

[brandonislegend]

That's precisely it. He's a hustle type player. He's not the skilled big man with Russell like defense people were saying he was going to be.

Ok man. You are right.

[tikay0]

Ok man. You are right.

He'll be a 3rd option offensively, with good defense. A guy that will be a good complimentary piece, but won't be able to carry a championship team.

[Kblaze8855]

Lebron got hyped beyond belief, and he lived up to it. AD got almost the same treatment


Ive not read 30 things in my life less true than that.......

[brandonislegend]

Ive not read 30 things in my life less true than that.......

He is right man, just let him think that so he goes back into his hole.

[brandonislegend]

He's not showing signs of versatility?

In the NBA there are 3 players averaging more than 1.5 blocks, 1 steal, 7 rebounds and 12 points.

Davis, Noah and Josh Smith. The last two plays 35+ mpg and shots around 45% FG. Davis plays 29 and shoots 52%.

For a rookie he shows very good versatility.


:applause:

[tikay0]

Ive not read 30 things in my life less true than that.......

The Brow. He was on ESPN damn near every single day. In terms of noobs, no he didn't get LBJ's hype. In terms of basketball fans, and sports aficionados, he damn sure did.

[brandonislegend]

The Brow. He was on ESPN damn near every single day. In terms of noobs, no he didn't get LBJ's hype. In terms of basketball fans, and sports aficionados, he damn sure did.

:facepalm He was on ESPN because he won a national championship

[ukfan22]

nobody said he was the "most NBA ready", or that he would make an immediate impact as big as Lebron

his potential as a prospect was on that level, and still is

[tikay0]

:facepalm He was on ESPN because he won a national championship

And then the comparisons to Russell/KG/Duncan started. :facepalm

[brandonislegend]

nobody said he was the "most NBA ready", or that he would make an immediate impact as big as Lebron

his potential as a prospect was on that level, and still is

He doesn't understand this.

[dbk123]

ITT: dumbass bullsfan and clippers nut hugger making up shit to knock the brow down.

[tikay0]

nobody said he was the "most NBA ready", or that he would make an immediate impact as big as Lebron

his potential as a prospect was on that level, and still is

Are you absolutely shitting me? Yes they did. There were people comparing him to KG/Duncan/Russell ever since he won the national title. Even during the season, people were saying how NBA ready he was.

How convenient. All of a sudden AD was never hyped up like crazy.

[dbk123]

Are you absolutely shitting me? Yes they did. There were people comparing him to KG/Duncan/Russell ever since he won the national title. Even during the season, people were saying how NBA ready he was.

How convenient. All of a sudden AD was never hyped up like crazy.
where the proof bruh? show me proof that he was the "most nba ready player since lebron" and not from some dude that posted it on a forum

[Replay32]

Once in a lifetime talent right there. :facepalm

Do you get why I made this topic???

Lebron got hyped beyond belief, and he lived up to it. AD got almost the same treatment, but isn't living up to the hype.

This is not true at all. :coleman:

Anthony Davis Got almost the same hype as Lebron? Ok... :lol

[KG215]

I think this is a case for some of you where you heard 3 or 4 "experts" say it, so that means it was the consensus and/or everyone was saying it.

[tikay0]

where the proof bruh? and not some dude that posted it on a forum

:facepalm I give up. No, no one on TV ever said he was going to be the next huge superstar.

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[tikay0]

I think this is a case for some of you where you heard 3 or 4 "experts" say it, so that means it was the consensus and/or everyone was saying it.

Please die. You know damn well you don't believe that.

[brandonislegend]

Please die. You know damn well you don't believe that.

You are the only delusional one in this whole thread. You must be right.

[KG215]

Please die. You know damn well you don't believe that.
Yes sir. Do you care how I die, though? I'd prefer to go on living for another 60-70 years and die of natural causes if that's ok with you.

[tikay0]

Yes sir. Do you care how I die, though? I'd prefer to go on living for another 60-70 years and die of natural causes if that's ok with you.

Ionno. Jump off a bridge? :confusedshrug:

[outbreak]

He showed flashes of the hype early on in games I caught, he was driving better then most big men and hitting jumpers while being an athletic freak. I haven't seen him since he came back from his injuries though so I guess he's declined a bit. I still think he will be a top player in a couple of years.

[CavaliersFTW]

12.8 PPG
7.8 RPG
0.8 APG

Not to mention, average to decent defense, and more of a hustle type player than the game changer, everyone was labeling him as.

"the most NBA ready player since Lebron." Remember that?
:roll: were they really saying that?

Meanwhile Dion Waiters ("Who!?, A bench player!?") puttin up 14.4 and has dropped as much as 33 this season :rockon:

[PP34Deuce]

Davis has the makings of being a premier PF. He is not a center and hes on a team with veteran paid SF-PF's.

I feel like NO is planning to bulk him up and use him as a project.

[KG215]

Ionno. Jump off a bridge? :confusedshrug:
Meh...the closest bridge is about 10 miles from where I live and it's only about a 15 foot jump into a creek. Don't feel like driving there tonight and I'm not even sure that'd get the job done.

[Graviton]

Meh...the closest bridge is about 10 miles from where I live and it's only about a 15 foot jump into a creek. Don't feel like driving there tonight and I'm not even sure that'd get the job done.
Get a gun, rob a bank, go out in blaze of glory after cops put 1000+ rounds through you.

[tikay0]

Meh...the closest bridge is about 10 miles from where I live and it's only about a 15 foot jump into a creek. Don't feel like driving there tonight and I'm not even sure that'd get the job done.

Call Metta World Peace the N word, and hand him a gun? :confusedshrug:

[CavaliersFTW]

Call Metta World Peace the N word, and hand him a gun? :confusedshrug:
This. And really lean in hard on the "er" pronunciation.

[tikay0]

This. And really lean in hard on the "er" pronunciation.

Precisely. Really dig deep on the "er".

[LikeABosh]

13 and 9 rebounds is pretty good for a rookie playing through injuries. Also, anyone who said "he's the most NBA ready player since Lebron" is an idiot. His body is no where near NBA level. He'll bulk up.

[Clippersfan86]

13 and 9 rebounds is pretty good for a rookie playing through injuries. Also, anyone who said "he's the most NBA ready player since Lebron" is an idiot. His body is no where near NBA level. He'll bulk up.

13 and like 7.7.

[Money 23]

I think he'll be a late bloomer. Monty Williams seems to have the cuffs on him a bit.
Word to Jermaine O'Neal.

[RRR3]

:roll: were they really saying that?

Meanwhile Dion Waiters ("Who!?, A bench player!?") puttin up 14.4 and has dropped as much as 33 this season :rockon:
Waiters takes like 18 shots to get 14 points. :durantunimpressed:

[Legends66NBA7]

Only on this forum have I read that Anthony Davis's hype was somewhat similar to LeBron James's hype.

Oh, I don't watch any of those sports channels, but I did read about it from time to time. He's in a small market team, so it's not like whatever hype is praising him to the moon or anything...

He'll pan out while his career extends and he's having a good season. Give him time.

[ukfan22]

just because he was compared to KG and Duncan doesn't mean he was or is as good currently

doesn't seem like something that should have to be explained, but whatever

[BankShot]

Nobody with a semi-intelligent or critically-thinking brain thought he'd have a huge immediate impact as a 19-year-old rookie on a bad team.

What I've seen so far is a good rebounder who wisely uses his length and has a soft touch around and away from the basket. He seems to be a good kid that respects the game and will work to get better.

I like that he's not being asked to do too much offensively, which would be pushing too far past what is relatively comfortable at this stage of his career.

Eric Gordon & Anthony Davis is a nice duo moving forward and the Hornets/Pelicans fan base should be optimistic moving forward.